@@aliciabea1598 well ... you still have to tell them it's over. Edit: I never expected this comment to STILL get picked apart after 3+ years. I hope at some point people learn to read through the REST of this thread before acting like they know something about my situation. 🙃
My girls parents checked my background, I had allot of explaining to do since my past is kinda wild. But it’s exactly that, my past. I was young and dumb..
N its like cops cant be everywhere at once but when you get a message like that call the cops that way at least its known who to look for when you go missing
I did that. Broke up with my abusive ex through text but we went to the same school and he kept trying to harass me. I feel lucky to be alive because if it was up to him I'd probably be dead.
Never let anyone move in with you. Especially with women. Until she can show she has the money for her own apartment, don't let her in and make sure she paying for the upkeep. Ain't no body living for free.
@@jonathanxavier2026 Exactly! And I don't think this psycho was a "freeloader" because he had money, (I think they said he got $500k. for the injury he faked at work) and was receiving a nice retirement pension every month. But one thing I've found over the years is that the few people I knew of that were very controlling and had an EXTREME case of OCD like they said he had are friggin crazy! And I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.
Of course that's all you heard. Heaven forbid women pay their way. Yes he's an abusive, controlling, psychopath but where did you come up with the "freeloading" part? why cos he's a man moving in with a woman? He had a half a million dollar settlement and a very generous pension fund.
@@leahflower9924 That's the dumbest thing I've heard this week! If that were the case then this type of thing would happen 10's of thousands of times a day!
@the natural healthy way Morhardt the classes also teach the abusers more stuff to manipulate. My bf got scarier bc he got smarter on how to abuse w.o evidence. How to push blame on the abused.
You can't say that til u are actually in that position.. no matter how strongly you feel about it.. I would like to think that I would follow her aswell but I'm not sure until I'm put in that position
Almost like a Witness Protection Program. It’s true. The crazies go to almost any lengths so you gotta outsmart them at every turn. Always know where the enemy is.
EXACTLY!!! I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME.YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE A PSA..TO SAY YOU'RE LEAVING .JUST LEAVE..It can been dangerous to tell some of these nuts you're done and moving on.
it was a long semester trying to escape from a guy who would follow behind me from lecture and sneak in my dormitory behind someone so he could wait outside my door when I arrived. Luckily, i was smart enough to not have ever brought him home so when the semester ended I went back home for the summer. The following semester I changed dormitories and ate at a different dining facility. I shouldn't have had to change my life like that but I was worried that if I reported him to the campus security, his level of crazy would have escalated. But now, I've been living/volunteering in another country for the past 2+ years and he continues to cyber stalk me but I just ignore it. So yeah...I disappeared to another continent
When I left my abusive ex I had so many people telling me not to meet him alone and to watch my back. I had so many people willing to go with me. I always brought someone. It's not about being independent and brave. It's about avoiding an unnecessary risk. Not only would I bring someone with me but my friends and family all knew where I would be. And as soon as I left I called them to let them know I was safe. I can understand that Kelly wanted to prove she was independent and not afraid. But it's so not worth risking your own life.
@@MrPhilthy23 You, I and everyone but the actual couple involved do not know the details of what went on. Why so defensive? While sure their are women who lie about abuse, most are telling the truth and most dread revealing that truth. People who are abused over a long time think it partly their fault even though its not.
Anyone that keeps you away from friends and family is dangerous. If they threaten you because you aren’t comfortable around them anymore THEY ARE DANGEROUS. LEAVE IMMEDIATELY
That’s the type of person I had to leave. I was 20 then and knew he would have a gun. He just didn’t know I had one too 24/7. He was stalking so hard until he came face to face with a friend of mine who was a prison guard read to beat his behind. And I carried at the time. He backed up. But I still carried all of the time.
what if her friend was having an affair with david and she helped him disposed of her body ?, cause its crazy how he got rid of the body so quick and flew to new york, i feel like he had help.
I hate to blame the victim but it seems like she had very poor judgement. Moving in with someone after just a few weeks of dating is an absurd thing to do. She ignored all the red flags.
of course everybody on these comments is so much smarter than these victims right? You would never let love blind you, right?. My brother in law also threatened my professional, educated sister with death if she left him and she stayed with him. That's someone who is smart in every other aspect of her life! She finally told him she wants a divorce but he still calls her and sends her flowers and she says it's hard to keep rejecting him because she still has feelings for him.
Omg. Please females, STOP seeing these men in "person" to talk about breaking up. It almost NEVER ends up well! You can break up over the phone especially if they're controlling or violent! It's just common sense.
@@xJabro sometimes that's not even safe...I've seen women get killed in front of people too scared to act...Like the lady said...break up over the phone...and get far away
TheKokiriGirl idk man a true friend does what's best for their friend even when they know it's against their wishes if that friend knows what they are doing is right. She should have called the police and let them know of what was going on
TheKokiriGirl I think Donna was a good friend. Hindsight is always 20/20. Ofcourse if she knew then what she does now, she would've followed her, sadly only to see David carrying out her dead body and driving off in the car. It's just a sad story of a naive girl falling for a Psychopath predator, they are good at what they do bc it's ALL they do. I would not be surprised in the least if others he's dated in the past come out and speak or if they find out that others are also missing.🤔
NEVER GO SEE A ABUSIVE EX ON YOUR OWN. EVER. I had to go pick stuff up and he said he was 10 hrs away for work. I still went with a group and when we got there the two front cars went through the garage, one of them came out and told us to leave the house immediately. My ex had been sitting in the darkness and wasn't expecting the boys. Scariest time of my life. The boys were freaked out as well and all I can say is thank christ I never went on my own. They are convinced I'd never have left.
This this this so much. Even with less 'severe' relationships (eg abusive ex friend/roommate/etc) I can tell you to never go alone, even if they have your things, even if you are so so sure they'd never hurt you, please don't go alone/meet them alone. I've seen to many people who were at the very least ready to fly off the handle, and others where people were ready to do severe things, and the only thing really stopping them was there being a "third party"/other people there.
Always have a police escort. Period. My abusive ex was livid when he was surprised when I brought one to get my things... he wasn’t even allowed to harass me verbally when I was there.
When a person shows you they are crazy, believe it. He told her he would kill her and she goes to meet him alone. We need to be smarter. I dated someone exactly like this. I noticed how jealous and controlling he was, but he always apologized and convinced me. One day I received a phone call from his ex-girlfriend warning me. That was followed by my mother's advice telling me that she didn't like his demeanor. I ended the relationship immediately, and saw exactly how crazy he was. I have always been grateful for the advice I got at the proper time.
I'm glad you heeded the advice. It annoys the hell out of me how many times I watch videos like this and the women avoid the advice of friends and family.
Exactly! I have gone with/offered to go with so many of my family and friends when they decide ‘enough is enough’! Don’t let your loved ones do this alone, it is the most dangerous time!!! Tell them they can buy new stuff, it isn’t important!!
Yea, my mom moved us out in a few hours while my dad was at work. He found us that day in a house my grandfather rented across the street from them, I assume so they/the tight neighborhood could keep an eye on us, so there was minimal drama. He called obsessively for months but didn’t kill us and stopped drinking soon after, so he realized he was acting nuts. Watching these shows, I realize now why it was a good idea the way mom went about it.... Thanks mom!!
@@theherbpuffer While he _might_ have tracked her down and killed her anyway, going to him is what made sure that this would happen. Most crimes of passion only occur in the heat of the moment and even naturally vindictive persons will cool off, get distracted, find someone else to bother, etc, if you just give them time. And by not associating with them anymore, they will have a harder time gettng to you and enacting their vengeance (unless of course they don't care about getting caught red-handed)...
I was honored to have Kelly as a classmate and friend. We miss you so much Kelly and we will never give up finding you and putting him in jail. Kelly is truly one of the nicest, amazing, and sweetest friends in the whole world.
My sister and I are the same ages as Kelly and Lauren, and attended elementary school with both of them. The whole Rothwell family is just good people all around. I'll never forget when Kelly first went missing. Not that any family deserves this, but this couldn't have happened to a nicer family. I truly hope she didn't suffer, and I hope they get the closure they need sooner than later. Dave is the worst of the worst, and he will answer for this, whether in this life or the next.
“She always found the good in people” here’s where I feel like a lot of us go wrong. We want to believe people are good so we ignore or make excuses for the smaller infractions and trespasses of boundaries. By the time we accept people for who they are, the bad included, it’s sometime too late. I’m reminded of the saying ‘when you look at someone thru rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.
Why does this interviewer lady talk so LOUD and DRAMATIC!?! Shes in the wrong profession. She needs to be on Broadway, all the drama in her voice is perfect for that.
She has a lot of empathy for the people she's interviewing. I can see it in her face. She can be as dramatic as she wants in her voice as long as shes as respectful and caring as she seems
@@HealthyAndrew DUH! obviously there are tons of murderers in prison. That still doesn't change the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who have killed and gotten off scott free to continue living life as they choose as a result of America's faulty ass court system. It happens everyday, so many stories just like this one. Americas justice system is bullshit. I said what I said and I stand behind that fact sir. So your comment is actually unneeded, unnecessary, and pretty stupid. Move along @healthyandrew
Joy Davis+ Nobody goes to jail for minor drug possession, much less 25yrs. So stop with your b.s. Yeah, the 3 strike law is bs, and so much is wrong with the justice system in general. But don't talk as they are just rounding up addicts, and giving them lengthy sentence.
Seyi Majek I mean how is he a troll? You said you wanted to be single and now you’re saying you’re not going to...? Plus you just hear stories of weirdos, you rarely hear stories about good people.
Seyi Majek don't be sweet heart, you just got to find the right person that matches up with you. one that values you,and respects you.plus he has to know the Lord, someone whom loves the Lord and is a Christian will treat you wonderfully. I know in this crazy world we live in ,you just have to be cautious about anybody even if they call themselves "Christian " I told my husband up front I'm not here to just date and play around. I was a virgin when I met and married him.he respected me and loved me even more for that. ...My precious just be yourself and let it be known what your goals are like I did.But also, God lead us together because I told God to find me someone or I will be single forever because I'm not going to allow the dudes tell me im prude and they wasting time. ..I laughed at this one guy and told him yup buh bye. .when he tried and he actually slapped my face because I wouldn't fool around. I am Chaldean (middleastern )if you don't know what that is..I told him you don't test me,I tested you and you failed. ..never call me again. he tried,I told him I'll let my brothers deal with you and it won't be pretty.
Amen yes. I was 17 when I met my 1st husband over the internet (I shudder when I think of it to this day) from the very first date everything was moving fast. He was a lot older than me, and I knew nothing about relationships/had never really had one. He was manipulative, a pathological liar and cheater. Now that I look back I get so angry at myself because now I see all those things I missed and dismissed. Fast forward 7 years later, I had enough of his shit, and it was hell trying to break free. He broke into my car, broke into my mom's house (where I was living) took my computer, got into my social media accounts posted things under me (horrible things), he chased me on the interstate going over 100mph. He did many other things but that would require a book 😒. What did the cops do even after I had a domestic violence order in place? Nothing.
Not always true i met my hubby and 1 month later we moved in together.i was 17 when we meet but turned 18 right before we moved in together.its now 27 years late weve been married for 25 of those 27 years.3 kids later and 2 grandsons and we are still very much in love and going strong.hes my best friend.
@@kathyhartzell3023 Exactly. It depends on the people involved. Like you can wait years and years in a relationship and that person can still turn out to be a psycho. You never truly know someone 100%
@Kitten Lyric There are always signs. Nobody can hide their true selves 100%. The problem is the conditioning society has been under, intentional or not, in the past 60 years to accept the behaviour we would normally and rightfully run far and fast from. The "red flags" have been accepted, excused and normalized for so long that people just accept them or have it in their heads that they can rescue or fix the problem person. People choose not to see it, or when they admittedly see it, they choose to accept it and make excuses for it. There are a number of personality traits that you can see right off that will tell you immediately if you are dealing with a wolf, a predator. Most people can see this upon meeting and will steer clear of it, often not even cognizant that they even read these traits, only knowing they either just did not like the person, immediately distrusted them, or just had a plain old bad feeling about the predator. In turn, there are certain people that are easily susceptible to being preyed upon-"sheep" so to speak- that also have specific personality traits. Most regular people aren't predators, so they don't prey upon those easy targets, the sheep. The predator, on the other hand, well, they're even better at the regular person at reading little personality traits, and they prey upon the people that exhibit these personality traits and they take advantage of them in many terrible ways, violence and murder just being one of the ways. A predator can identify a victim by the victim's walk alone. The personality traits of the "victim" are reacted to differently by regular people, for example this woman in the above video, the murdered woman's friend's story of how she met the murdered woman and how open she was to her and was instantly her best friend. Now put a predator in the place of the friend. Imagine that meeting. See what I mean? The sheep personality is attracted to the wolf and vice versa. In every single one of these incidents, you will have a number of these victims' friends and family stating that they knew the abusive-murdering partner was an issue from the very moment they meet them. Everyone around the victim sees what this monster is immediately upon meeting him and they warm the victim. The victim, for whatever reason, chooses not to see, chooses to excuse, chooses to stay. Family and friends keep trying to help, keep warning, keep telling the victim. The cycle continues. Bottom line- when you meet someone, immediately introduce them to your loved ones and friends, trust them and listen to what they have to say. They love you and they won't steer you wrong. I'm not talking about your ma and dad, Rachel and Morty Sheckelstein don't approve because he's not a doctor or a lawyer, I mean when dad says, "He's polite, he has a good job, but there's just something about the way he looks at you...I don't trust him, honey.", listen to your father. He feels it. This guy may not kill or hurt you, but at the very least, he's going to be controlling, fussy, hard to please, demeaning, verbally abusive, probably cheat... Learn the personality traits of a predator and learn to spot them and stay far away from them no matter how sexy they are or benevolent they may seem. Contact with them can only end in misery. Learn the personality traits of a victim or an enabler and do not exhibit them. Find them in yourself or a loved on and change them. These personality traits attract predators. If you do not exhibit them, predators will not come near you, 100% guaranteed. We can only help ourselves. If you were a victim, you have my empathy. My little sister was murdered by one of these monsters at the age of 16 in 1994, so this subject hits home hard. I've become a survivor's advocate since then and have worked to change potential victims into strong people with no target on them, invisible to predators. It's the only thing that works. If you've been a victim, I hope you are no longer one. Sorry this was so long. I just have much to say on this matter.
@@beckyysaurusaustine6498 it’s very scary to think of but I would rather try and help. Also, I’m a believer in the 911 wellness check so I wouldn’t have arrived without knowing officers are on their way.
Statistically "Blue" Domestic Violence happens in 40% of law enforcement families dropping to 24% with older/more experienced officers. Since troubled cops also affect all of society, it would be to everyone's advantage for them to get more employee assistance program support and training.
@@mtaylor7307 and also stop Leftist politicians: DA, Judges from making good cops lives so miserable that only the bad cops will apply for the crumby job.
My sister had an ex boyfriend that was obsessed with her and was mentally abusive. He wouldn't leave her alone when she broke up with him and kept texting her. When that didn't work, he texted me to convince her to go back with him, and telling me how he's the victim of all this. I was furious, and let him know my thoughts about him and to leave her alone. One day he came to our apartment and texted her to go outside because he wanted to talk to her and say goodbye. I had a gut feeling that something wasn't right and being the person who watches a lot of criminal episodes like this one, forbid her from going. Luckily he quickly left when he spotted my brother coming home, and never contacted her again. Who knows what he was going to do, but i didn't want to risk it, especially seeing how it results with victims like this poor woman. Be careful people, there are a lot of bad bad monsters out there!!
My brother had an ex GF that was obsessed with him and was mentally abusive. She wouldnt leave him alone when he broke up with her & kept texting him. When that didnt work, she texted me to convince him to go back with her, and telling me how she's the victim of all this. I was furious, & let the gold digger know my thoughts about her, & to leave him alone. One day she came to our Cattle Ranch & texted him to the driveway because she wanted to say goodbye. I had a gut feeling that something wasn't right and being a person who's seen 100s of men robbed & financially destroyed with child support, alimony, concocted domestic charges & media bias, I forbid him to go. Luckily she left quickly when she spotted my sister coming home, and never contacted him again. Who knows what she was going to do, but i didnt want to risk it, especially seeing victims like Travis Alexander. Be careful people, there are a lot of bad bad gold digger whores out there!!
My mother left my abusive father. Mom told him she was going to my house to help me make food for my son’s 16th birthday. She came with no clothing other than what she was wearing. I picked her up and that was the last time she lived with him. She lived another 7 and 1/2 years glad to be away from him. We moved into a new neighbourhood that wasn’t mapped out yet. He looked for us and finally with his strong persistence he found us. My mother put up with so much crap and after 3 attempts she left him for good. I’m so happy she had some peace and quiet away from him.
@Bern Ochtabienski ❤Bern, your story just stole my Grandma Heart❤! You are the most caring, loving, and devoted daughter I have ever seen!! Your story is a story of "love in action"! Your mother could never have escaped without your guidance and sacrifice to get her to a place of safety!! You even moved with a child (or children?) to ensure her safety!! Happy that you were able to give her 7 and 1/2 years of peace and happiness!! You are an incredibly selfless and loving person and your Mother was so blessed to have a daughter like you!!!! I hope this reaches you after one year!! I pray, Bern, that God richly blesses you and your family and rewards you with every blessing for such devotion to your Mother!!❤❤❤❤
Never say your leaving as a survivor of a two year abusive relationship I only got away because I played it normal like I was going to a friends house and I never came back but for the cloths not for the shoes but for nothing I left . There’s nothing to say to a man who abuses you mentally or physically JUST LEAVE PLEASE!
I AGREE. Most women who inform the abuser that they are leaving, really do not want to leave, they are hoping the abuser will talk them out of leaving. Stupid.
Yep.. I said my mom wanted to see my sons, both under 3.. 10:30pm. Diaper bag & the clothes on my back.. and I never went back. Everything else was replaceable.. but me and the kids.
This is the kind of relationship where breaking up with someone via text and ghosting them is absolutely the way to go! Who cares what other people think of you when your life is in danger?!?
That only works if the guy doesn't know where you live... obviously if the guy knows where you live, there is no such thing as ghosting to get him out of your life... If the dude wants to fuck your life up.. he pretty much can.
Breaking up by text is never acceptable. You have to talk face-to-face, or at least on the phone/Skype. You have to make it clear. Don't lead the person on by continually discussing it after the fact of breaking up. Break up. Give an explanation. If you're living together, say when you're moving out or when they have to be out by.
@Claire Yeah, of course. I'm talking about before thinking she might get killed. She was dumb for leading him on. She should've packed up, got out, and had nothing to do with him after that.
Also I feel like she didn't have enough knowledge that this would definitely happen to quit the Police Academy which seemed to give her new hope...he would have just followed her home from there
Exactly why do these women feel the need to breakup in person and alone with their abuser or possibly their killer you've got to wise up ,wise up,wise up and not fall 4 their bullshit OK. when you go alone you yes you are putting your life on the line its not worth it wise up
When I broke up with my ex he kept begging me to go see him in person I refused. The main reason being I got a bad feeling, and the thought that he might want to hurt me wouldn't go away. So even though he would blow up my phone with calls and texts I refused. Blocked on all platforms.
They are very slick. Read “The Sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout.. Those of us possessing a conscience have a tough time wrapping our heads around the idea of not having one. It’s reading that every woman should do. The indicators will help you to leave very early on.
mingnon holmes Ummm... Because it's the decent god damn thing to do? Unless you mean specifically women in abusive relationships, in which case, I agree.
I know there are women killers out there but damn. Literally 90% of these stories on this channel are of Weak, Fragile, Possessive "men" who cant move on from an ex. The old saying, "If i cant have her, Nobody can" rings true in alot of these cases. Its a damn shame that these dogs cant just off themselves instead of killing the innocent ones...
Weak fragile possessive women created them. All my closest friends were “off” in way that I couldn’t describe, but we were Always a duo(different friends at different stages in life) and they all had one thing in common : a strange ass woman they called mom. One was left in a dumpster as an infant. And later adopt by a scary ass woman. One was abandoned by a drug addicted mother, the other is currently living in a one bedroom apt with his mother(his place) and she’s practically his damn wife, the other had a seemingly perfect mom, but It was obvious he was her golden child and could do no wrong. And failed miserably trying to live up to her expectations. They all are womanizers and see women as disposable objects cuz if their love /hate relationship with their mommy.
eh i think you are downplaying the amount of people killing their partner so they can be with someone else that is also on this channel, id say that category alone takes up about 30-40% so this category can't be 90 lol.
eh now imagine the women who get away with it.. cause they're too small not mean enough.. not cold enough.. if you do the math for the ones who kill three husbands and get caught.. many will get away with 1-2 killings.
Well 40% of female homicide victims are killed by current or previous partners. Only 6% of men are and usually it’s in response to domestic abuse of the woman. So yeah the ratio of videos is close to reality
When they say they are going to make you disappear and tell you how they are going to do it, RUN!! File a restraining order.... dont chance anything with them!!!!!!
Missy Gray I should tell my boyfriend this just to mess with him. Lol! “I’m going to tie you up to a chair and make you eat chocolate cake all day and night lol
Certainly if you're training with the police tell all your police friends...I don't like nepotism but it's better than getting murdered and they'll probably get you any piece of paper you want
It is complicated to date nowadays, doesn't matter if it's in person or if it's online, even friendship it's dangerous. Wish we could see ppl's hearts and intentions right away when we meet them.
Yeah exactly but that’s why we are suppose to guard our heart our feelings and use discernment. I’m careful who I meet even with laddies I met this lady all I wanted was friendship an she was so aggressive with wanting sex an very pushy it turned me off an well I’m glad I’m not friends with her anymore
Nothing's changed, there have been dangerous people in society since society began. If anything, we are at an advantage today in that there is a fair chance at getting a good idea of who a person is just by knowing their name.
3 years in an abusive relationship and ive learned you have to smile and play the part until you are safe enough to run run run away and never go back.
Might need cops or sheriff departments help to get stuff and they could even attack them. Abuser can be male or female. John Bobbitt's penis was cut off.
Jacques Matteo de Lusignan 😂 “SOME” of the pics she looks young ...like at :33. I don’t think she looks 35 at all? Then in other pics she just looks ... weird. Idk? Maybe I was too tired.
They always say that you should not be a coward and break up with someone face to face. NOPE!Text, phone call or email and then immediately hit the block button on everything! If you got thing in their place, replace them or ask an officer to go with you if it’s that important. People just snap.
Derek A what grown ass woman ways 90lbs ?you making assumptions. If they’re not weaklings and he has no weapons they should be able to beat his ass. And no most men can’t beat up 2 guys vs 1 that’s called getting jumped. Most time of not that does not work. Me and my friend definitely could do it ☑️
Nora Zapata Soon as they said he was obsessed with cleaning and it being done his way, I thought of that movie and the damn towels he beat her over.... Life is scarier than film.
My now ex-husband used to freak out because I watched that movie so often. He was increasingly verbally and emotionally abusive to me, and when it started to escalate, I decided to get out. I have an almost photographic memory, and was always telling my friends at work what he had said to me or done during our increasingly frequent arguments. He knew he couldn't possibly get away with anything with them around. Every time we watched Sleeping With the Enemy I would cheer loudly when she killed her abusive husband at the end, and I think it started to make him think perhaps he should let me leave peacefully.
I left my abusive husband, after threatening me and my teenage daughters, I finally got my shit together and left. I disappeared with my kids. He found me once and made me come home (tracked my bank account). The next day he left for work I changed the locks on a house I owned. he got into my house, poisoned my daughter, raped me, and then somehow that night thought we were back together, i bullshitted him majorly, I rushed my daughter to hospital, I had Police go into my home and remove him. Then moved. This man is still a security officer for the government.
Soooooooooo, meeting someone you later fall in love with has to be out of a fairytale story book? Because i dont know anyone that met that way. Usually it's at a gas station, the club, bar, while shopping or out eating somewhere. Most peoples first meetings could be in line with a Dr Seuss story.
When someone wants to move in quickly they likely need to establish control before the other person realizes they are a Phycho, they can only keep up their charade a month at best
I emailed my now estranged husband. Mainly because he is a narc and there isn't any reasoning with these types but also for my safety. Once a particular type of person loses that control over you, they can't bear it and will go to extreme lengths to regain it or pay you back with no consideration of consequence. Seems common sense to not do as this poor lady did, but clearly most of us do. Be safe belles.
Aqua K When I left my then husband I didn’t tell him, of course in arguments id say I leave, but when I actually did, I waited for him to go to work and get all my belongings and leave then. I had a 4 year old at the time too so I def didn’t want to risk my safety nor my child’s.
@@karimeherreramusic best way I believe. I have 2 young children. He didn't believe I would leave, Really thought he was the bee's knees and a gift. Pfft. Had to tell police, social support groups, family..cut mutual people off. Complete overhaul. No regrets whatsoever. Felt like the right thing and still does.
All you have to do is just get to know a person more for 3 years and if you like them then there I've liked this girl since 3rd grade she's nice and everything you would want in a girl
"Charming" is like a buzz word. So many creeps start out charming. So I'm staying away from those types. And I'm mindful of fast moving relationships. There is no reason to live together, especially after a few weeks.
Sky Robin Good idea! I learned that lesson the hard way... Twice I've moved in with a new boyfriend within a month. BAD IDEA!!! It's a little harder with the charm though... you want someone with a good personality that is likeable, but that isn't using charm to catch and hook, but change after they've got you in their clutches. It's a fine line between fake charm and a good personable individual.
Yeah it was said that Ted Bundy was articulate and "charming". Your right no relationship should move that fast but women confuse sex with love ...sex is just physical, no attatchment.
There is definitely something to be said for people who come off too hard, too strong, too fast. The "you're the love of my life you're my everything (I just met you 2 weeks ago)" type. They may not all be abusive killers, but they always have serious problems.
Don't ever ever think that you can outwit a psychopath or a narcissist.. don't think that you can handle them don't think you don't need anyone else's help in dealing with them.. do not try to do it on your own as this poor girl did.
I have learned one thing from these cases 1. You don't need to tell him that you are leaving, just get the hell out of there. 2. Alert authorities of the situation if you have to. 3. Under no circumstances are you to meet up with him after you have broken it off. 4. It doesn't hurt to become Licensed for a fire arm to protect your family and the people around you. These fools aren't afraid of hurting those closest to you. 5. Pretend you never knew his ass .. If you see him have your piece of steal ready and watch your back.. This is happening way too much . The scary thing is that young teens and women think that it will never happen to them.
1. I disagree. If you're leaving a relationship, particularly when you're living together, yes, you should always tell your partner that you are leaving. 2. Yes. 3. Probably good advice. 4. That's for Americans, not the rest of us. 5. Ditto.
There is no way in hell that I would've let my friend go home to break up with someone who was clearly crazy and stalking her. Even had she told me no I would have followed her home anyway.
Both of you would have been dead. She is a grown woman that made a very bad decision for the sake of love. Her friend told her not to go,that was her instinct telling her that there was a danger awaiting her there but ignored it.
Well that isn't smart either, what makes you think you're any safer than this chick he supposedly loves??? Like he wouldn't just kill you too. It would have been smart to play the game with her and him too... Meaning "okay you don't want me to come? You're sure? Fine... I'll go home, call me later" and then follow at a DISTANCE... Don't just expose yourself because that's how you lose. Unfortunately, with dangerous people it's crucial to NOT let on that you know what they're doing, you've seen them without their mask on because that's the thing they protect at all cost... Their true identity/true intent.. these people make it so far without being caught because they spend their lives learning how to mimic other people so they can appear more "normal". Look into it.
I think she did 6 scarface PILES of coke! So funny when she SCREAMS - "David Perry, what can U tell me about this guy?" Then the cop quietly responds with a look of horror. Hahaha
Soooo many jealous and over-possessive men out there, Jesus Christ. Sh** is out of control I thought I was a little jealous but man, these guys take it to a whole nutha level!! Any man that kills the woman he supposedly loves, needs to be put down like a rabid dog.
A little jealousy is not a bad thing. My ex husband, married to me for 22 years, prided himself on his absence of jealousy. It was all fine, since I did have a couple of male friends, but later on he said he wouldn't even care if I slept with other guys. That was the beginning of the end, how important could I be to a guy who said that? So, being a little jealous is normal. It's the over bearing possessiveness and controlling behaviours that aren't.
I’m a lucky survivor of domestic violence. I grew up in foster care, I was born with a lot of alcohol in my system (probably y I hate alcohol today) I was taken away at 1 yrs old due to having cigarette burns all over my chest. I went back home at 13. My mom had an abusive husband & he choked me too. Anyway, so I starting dating this guy at 14. I was only looking for a way out of my moms house. The guy lived with his father, but his dad worked from 3 a.m till 10 p.m so, the abuse started almost right away. Now I was stuck in between. The guy was controlling, abusive, he told me he was gonna put me with the fishes. I been through a lot with him. It came to a point where it was DO or DIE. I grabbed a knife & I kept it hidden & the next abuse. I stabbed him. From all the traps I put, I was able to escape. This lil mother fucker was fast like a road runner so I knew at that moment, I needed to outsmart him & be faster than him. Long story. I put him in jail for 12 yrs. he got so many charges including rape, & kidnapping
I'm so sad and sorry to read your lifes story. I hope you are on the road to recovery. All the trauma you went through at such a young age is hard for me to imagine. I'm 59 and had a very good childhood. I've meet some dickhead men in my life but there you go. I hope you are now in a happy place you sound like you are a strong person take care from the UK xxx
A jealous partner can be so dangerous! 😩 That’s why I’m single now! I can’t deal with a possessive person! My ex was like that! He makes me wanna be single FOREVER!
I get why she had to go home, because her belongings where there. But she really should have had at 2 other people there with her so she can collect her things fast and so there’s less of a chance of him hurting her. She probably also knows his schedule and should have gone when he wouldn’t be there. She could have easily broken up with on the phone, block his number, and block him from all her social media accounts.
For this exact reason my sister called me up and got me to be her bodyguard whule she moved her shit out of her apartment after her ex strangled her until she lost consciousness (he bashed her face until she regained consciousness and then did it over and over again bout 6 times), I am so thankful she is a quick thinker and defused the bastard enough to escape to her workplace, we grabbed her stuff a couple of hours later then the next morning she pressed charges and got him locked up and we found out through court that he actually kidnapped and bashed his previous ex before my sister but the girl wrote the judge a letter begging for mercy on him. This made my sister more determined to throw the book at him because she's convinced his next girlfriend he will succeed and kill her, and honestly I think she's right
Never break up with your abusive boyfriend alone...
I tried to do it with a friend there and the friend walked away.
Why do you need break up just walk away it's not marriage were you divorce but Its American thing i guess
@@aliciabea1598 well ... you still have to tell them it's over.
Edit: I never expected this comment to STILL get picked apart after 3+ years.
I hope at some point people learn to read through the REST of this thread before acting like they know something about my situation. 🙃
@@blonderoast3032 yes but over the phone
Jupiter Skye abusive men or just men in general that you date even if not abusive?
Doing a background check on someone isn't such a bad idea nowadays.
Best thing is super accessible to do it atleast here in tx
My girls parents checked my background, I had allot of explaining to do since my past is kinda wild. But it’s exactly that, my past. I was young and dumb..
Good but the ones who never got caught is the problem lol
Crazy
Exactly! Y does no one do that?
If someome tells you "if you leave me, im going to kill you" believe them.
It's even terrifying if they say: "If you leave me, I'll kill myself"
Totally agree,
He offers her pepper and that's how they started dating. That's not off to a great start
N its like cops cant be everywhere at once but when you get a message like that call the cops that way at least its known who to look for when you go missing
@@NikoKyon are you kidding me? Id be like okay byeee!
Just the fact that he thought he could dispose of her like garbage and everyone would forget about her is disgusting.
“That man was attractive and charming “ are we all looking at the same person?
EXACTLY!!!!!
My thoughts exactly 😂
😂
He looks nothing but rough and cold.
They always do this. I expect to see some beauty I'm shocked 9 times out of 10 😂
Never break up with a man (especially if they're abusive) to his face. Put on that fake smile until you can run.
Or a woman
You're confused obviously. Man up and break up with abusive partner by killing them. It's your life or theirs, make your decision.
Don Chiva wrong, you can still get charged. Have police or back up.
I did that. Broke up with my abusive ex through text but we went to the same school and he kept trying to harass me. I feel lucky to be alive because if it was up to him I'd probably be dead.
That is a lesson I learned many years ago.
She should have left after she found out he vacuumed 3 times a day.....
Angelita lol yes mam
🤣😂
Angelita 😂
...ouch
Lol, true.
Within weeks he moved into “her” condo? Freeloading psycho is all I heard.
Never let anyone move in with you. Especially with women. Until she can show she has the money for her own apartment, don't let her in and make sure she paying for the upkeep. Ain't no body living for free.
@@jonathanxavier2026 Exactly! And I don't think this psycho was a "freeloader" because he had money, (I think they said he got $500k. for the injury he faked at work) and was receiving a nice retirement pension every month. But one thing I've found over the years is that the few people I knew of that were very controlling and had an EXTREME case of OCD like they said he had are friggin crazy! And I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.
Of course that's all you heard. Heaven forbid women pay their way. Yes he's an abusive, controlling, psychopath but where did you come up with the "freeloading" part? why cos he's a man moving in with a woman? He had a half a million dollar settlement and a very generous pension fund.
i know right this makes me think that psycho men are more common than normal men yikes lol
@@leahflower9924 That's the dumbest thing I've heard this week!
If that were the case then this type of thing would happen 10's of thousands of times a day!
Signs of an abusive and toxic relationship should be mandatory in school, this is truly heartbreaking.
It really should. The story is always the same: Abuse manipulated to be the victim's fault and they never even realize it.
Omg I've been saying this!! It should not just be sex education but healthy relationship education.
She was a cadet for police force... She definitely knew the signs of abuse as they are taught what to look for.
@@nataliaanderson807 I guess that's why she decided to leave as she finally recognized the signs. Sad...
@the natural healthy way Morhardt the classes also teach the abusers more stuff to manipulate. My bf got scarier bc he got smarter on how to abuse w.o evidence. How to push blame on the abused.
“That man was attractive” excuse me what
Scrub Lord 🤣
🤔🤔🤔🤔😂😂
Honestly 😂
If he's attractive, I'm a super model.
🤣🤣🤣🤣thinking the same thing
U know what? I wudve followed my best friend with 911 on call. I wudve followed her whether she liked it or not
U woulda been killed too lol
Same.
You can't say that til u are actually in that position.. no matter how strongly you feel about it.. I would like to think that I would follow her aswell but I'm not sure until I'm put in that position
bonita t exactly
I would definitely have followed her. With my 9mm at the ready.
”that man was attractive-”
no❤️
when you are trying to get away from a psychopath, just disappear, dont tell them where you are going, NO CONTACT.
I wish I knew that :(
Almost like a Witness Protection Program. It’s true. The crazies go to almost any lengths so you gotta outsmart them at every turn. Always know where the enemy is.
EXACTLY!!! I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME.YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE A PSA..TO SAY YOU'RE LEAVING .JUST LEAVE..It can been dangerous to tell some of these nuts you're done and moving on.
was thinking the same, just vanish like a magician and no turning back
it was a long semester trying to escape from a guy who would follow behind me from lecture and sneak in my dormitory behind someone so he could wait outside my door when I arrived. Luckily, i was smart enough to not have ever brought him home so when the semester ended I went back home for the summer. The following semester I changed dormitories and ate at a different dining facility. I shouldn't have had to change my life like that but I was worried that if I reported him to the campus security, his level of crazy would have escalated. But now, I've been living/volunteering in another country for the past 2+ years and he continues to cyber stalk me but I just ignore it. So yeah...I disappeared to another continent
When I left my abusive ex I had so many people telling me not to meet him alone and to watch my back. I had so many people willing to go with me. I always brought someone. It's not about being independent and brave. It's about avoiding an unnecessary risk. Not only would I bring someone with me but my friends and family all knew where I would be. And as soon as I left I called them to let them know I was safe. I can understand that Kelly wanted to prove she was independent and not afraid. But it's so not worth risking your own life.
She probably didn't want to endanger her friends. Her friend did say he was stalking her as well.
@@MrPhilthy23 You, I and everyone but the actual couple involved do not know the details of what went on. Why so defensive? While sure their are women who lie about abuse, most are telling the truth and most dread revealing that truth. People who are abused over a long time think it partly their fault even though its not.
Trish, why would you go see your ex. period? Why would you put a loved one in danger??? Have you heard of the term, Ghosting???
GetoffMoney. org Sometimes it’s necessary. Kids, shared possessions, necessary conversations about finances, etc.
Why meet with an ex at all. Once you leave you never go back until you have a police escort. Family and friends can become victims too
Anyone that keeps you away from friends and family is dangerous. If they threaten you because you aren’t comfortable around them anymore THEY ARE DANGEROUS. LEAVE IMMEDIATELY
O yea no after you get merry no mor friends..
You are very smart. Why can't other women see it this way.
Very true! Isolation is a dangerous form of abuse.
That’s the type of person I had to leave. I was 20 then and knew he would have a gun. He just didn’t know I had one too 24/7. He was stalking so hard until he came face to face with a friend of mine who was a prison guard read to beat his behind. And I carried at the time. He backed up. But I still carried all of the time.
I know her friend is probably still very hurt, especially since she didn’t go with her… I hope she knows it’s not her fault…
Exactly 😩😪
Survivors guilt
what if her friend was having an affair with david and she helped him disposed of her body ?, cause its crazy how he got rid of the body so quick and flew to new york, i feel like he had help.
@@truthteller449Ridiculous comment with 0 proof
I’m sorry “throw your dead body in the gulf where no one can find you ” should’ve been the last straw 🤦♀️
Diabla Beauty that is what he did ! Thats is why they haven’t found her
I hate to blame the victim but it seems like she had very poor judgement. Moving in with someone after just a few weeks of dating is an absurd thing to do. She ignored all the red flags.
Yep
That part!
of course everybody on these comments is so much smarter than these victims right? You would never let love blind you, right?. My brother in law also threatened my professional, educated sister with death if she left him and she stayed with him. That's someone who is smart in every other aspect of her life! She finally told him she wants a divorce but he still calls her and sends her flowers and she says it's hard to keep rejecting him because she still has feelings for him.
Omg. Please females, STOP seeing these men in "person" to talk about breaking up. It almost NEVER ends up well! You can break up over the phone especially if they're controlling or violent! It's just common sense.
Or you do it in a public setting so people are able to step in if needed.
break up by phone
@@xJabro sometimes that's not even safe...I've seen women get killed in front of people too scared to act...Like the lady said...break up over the phone...and get far away
@@kevinros1274 damn what country do you live in where people murder their ex right in front of people
I know right...they just can't take rejection...just can't take the fact...that they can't sleep with you anymore...can't control you...smdh
Donna is a true mvp. “Scumbag loser said..” good friend. Bless her heart
TheKokiriGirl idk man a true friend does what's best for their friend even when they know it's against their wishes if that friend knows what they are doing is right. She should have called the police and let them know of what was going on
Yup. I noticed that too.
Haha yes! I loved that 👍
Should have called cops when hes was out side.
TheKokiriGirl I think Donna was a good friend. Hindsight is always 20/20. Ofcourse if she knew then what she does now, she would've followed her, sadly only to see David carrying out her dead body and driving off in the car.
It's just a sad story of a naive girl falling for a Psychopath predator, they are good at what they do bc it's ALL they do.
I would not be surprised in the least if others he's dated in the past come out and speak or if they find out that others are also missing.🤔
If a woman wants to leave, LET HER GO!!
You can't keep someone who doesn't want to stay.
Who are you talking to?
Sociopaths and psychopaths won't understand that.
Never give up love , it depends really but I don’t Believe in abusing or trying to hurt them physically 😢
@@oAgL214 Exactly. They choose not to - they have a sense of entitlement that overrules everything else, including human dignity and decency.
No one is going to bring up the fact that she said, “Kelly tried to make light of it”, then they show a lamp light🤦🏼♀️
Lmao 😂 🤣😂
Oh god, I missed that but this show has the cringiest metaphores ever 😂
One video said red flag and they show a red flag. Love this show!
😂😂😂
@@heb4169 5:32
NEVER GO SEE A ABUSIVE EX ON YOUR OWN. EVER. I had to go pick stuff up and he said he was 10 hrs away for work. I still went with a group and when we got there the two front cars went through the garage, one of them came out and told us to leave the house immediately. My ex had been sitting in the darkness and wasn't expecting the boys. Scariest time of my life.
The boys were freaked out as well and all I can say is thank christ I never went on my own. They are convinced I'd never have left.
Jesus Christ just reading that sent chills down my spine
Wow! I’m having chills just reading this.
Me too wtf??? I went cold something from a horror film so glad you're ok holy shit 🥺❤️
This this this so much.
Even with less 'severe' relationships (eg abusive ex friend/roommate/etc) I can tell you to never go alone, even if they have your things, even if you are so so sure they'd never hurt you, please don't go alone/meet them alone.
I've seen to many people who were at the very least ready to fly off the handle, and others where people were ready to do severe things, and the only thing really stopping them was there being a "third party"/other people there.
Always have a police escort. Period. My abusive ex was livid when he was surprised when I brought one to get my things... he wasn’t even allowed to harass me verbally when I was there.
When a person shows you they are crazy, believe it. He told her he would kill her and she goes to meet him alone. We need to be smarter. I dated someone exactly like this. I noticed how jealous and controlling he was, but he always apologized and convinced me. One day I received a phone call from his ex-girlfriend warning me. That was followed by my mother's advice telling me that she didn't like his demeanor. I ended the relationship immediately, and saw exactly how crazy he was. I have always been grateful for the advice I got at the proper time.
I'm so glad you're okay. Bless that ex-girlfriend for reaching out to you.
Yes believe their threats. Same with suicidal threats. Please take seriously.
Some times good pussy make someone crazy.
I'm glad you heeded the advice. It annoys the hell out of me how many times I watch videos like this and the women avoid the advice of friends and family.
Exactly u said it perfectly
Stop breaking up with these men in person. You do not know a person until they snap! Stop going alone!!!
Exactly! I have gone with/offered to go with so many of my family and friends when they decide ‘enough is enough’! Don’t let your loved ones do this alone, it is the most dangerous time!!! Tell them they can buy new stuff, it isn’t important!!
Yea, my mom moved us out in a few hours while my dad was at work. He found us that day in a house my grandfather rented across the street from them, I assume so they/the tight neighborhood could keep an eye on us, so there was minimal drama. He called obsessively for months but didn’t kill us and stopped drinking soon after, so he realized he was acting nuts. Watching these shows, I realize now why it was a good idea the way mom went about it.... Thanks mom!!
How bout don't get involved with em in the first place?!
@@jamiedavid8023 They love “bad boys” it’s something programmed into their brain... it’s like how men love “big tits and ass” I guess. 🤷🏽♂️
@@jamiedavid8023 What about the ones charming up front?
Duh!!! You never break up with the crazy ones in person. Never.
What makes you think he wouldn't track her down then kill her? If there's a will there's a way ...
Ibrahim Sannoh, so true😂
@@theherbpuffer While he _might_ have tracked her down and killed her anyway, going to him is what made sure that this would happen. Most crimes of passion only occur in the heat of the moment and even naturally vindictive persons will cool off, get distracted, find someone else to bother, etc, if you just give them time. And by not associating with them anymore, they will have a harder time gettng to you and enacting their vengeance (unless of course they don't care about getting caught red-handed)...
he would of killed her at some point. He could no longer control her so she had to die. That way he still has total control.
@salokin G Or don't get yourself involved in the first place
I was honored to have Kelly as a classmate and friend. We miss you so much Kelly and we will never give up finding you and putting him in jail. Kelly is truly one of the nicest, amazing, and sweetest friends in the whole world.
My sister and I are the same ages as Kelly and Lauren, and attended elementary school with both of them. The whole Rothwell family is just good people all around. I'll never forget when Kelly first went missing. Not that any family deserves this, but this couldn't have happened to a nicer family. I truly hope she didn't suffer, and I hope they get the closure they need sooner than later. Dave is the worst of the worst, and he will answer for this, whether in this life or the next.
Still nothing on him?
My prayers for the family and friends. Kelly sip❤
So sorry for your loss.
@@brooklynsmomma88 Thank you so much .
“From salad to sweethearts” I’m sorry but like cmon
Max Konidaris 😂😂😂seriously
You had me at ... pickled beets.
Omg yaaaasssssss
It was the cracked pepper that got her hooked. 🤦🏽♀️
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“She always found the good in people” here’s where I feel like a lot of us go wrong. We want to believe people are good so we ignore or make excuses for the smaller infractions and trespasses of boundaries. By the time we accept people for who they are, the bad included, it’s sometime too late.
I’m reminded of the saying ‘when you look at someone thru rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.
Personaly i always find the bad in people 😅
Why does this interviewer lady talk so LOUD and DRAMATIC!?! Shes in the wrong profession. She needs to be on Broadway, all the drama in her voice is perfect for that.
She loves herself a bit too much.
@@sunfishdana how is that possible?
She has a lot of empathy for the people she's interviewing. I can see it in her face. She can be as dramatic as she wants in her voice as long as shes as respectful and caring as she seems
Or on fox news
This seems odd to me - I find most interviewers extremely annoying, but I really liked this lady.
Murderers roaming around free while ppl with minor drug offenses in prison for 25 years or more sometimes. Americas justice system is ass.
Exactly........
Joy Davis there’s tons of murderers n prison. You’re making an unfair and stupid assumption
@@HealthyAndrew DUH! obviously there are tons of murderers in prison. That still doesn't change the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who have killed and gotten off scott free to continue living life as they choose as a result of America's faulty ass court system. It happens everyday, so many stories just like this one. Americas justice system is bullshit. I said what I said and I stand behind that fact sir. So your comment is actually unneeded, unnecessary, and pretty stupid. Move along @healthyandrew
Joy Davis+ Nobody goes to jail for minor drug possession, much less 25yrs. So stop with your b.s. Yeah, the 3 strike law is bs, and so much is wrong with the justice system in general. But don't talk as they are just rounding up addicts, and giving them lengthy sentence.
Give me 1 case where someone is in prison for 25 years for "minor drug offenses". Bet ya cant :)
This interviewer seems like she's about to beat the hell out her interviewees lol
Ahahaha! Wrestling Entertainment!
Entropy Fan2 ahhhg I know I love it
Over eager!! Not very subtle in her approach.
She needs to b respectful and polite..
"WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?!"
Me: "W-whoah, let's take it down a notch. It's an interview not an interrogation."
Donna calling Dave “scum bag loser” is hilarious
Hilarious???... why, it wasn't funny at all, yes, he's a murderer, but that comment wasn't funny or hilarious, it was just a comment..🤷🏾♀️
These types of stories makes me want to be single for the rest of my life....way too many sickos in this world😩.
Then stay single no one want you
Crazy Tempo troll
Seyi Majek I mean how is he a troll? You said you wanted to be single and now you’re saying you’re not going to...? Plus you just hear stories of weirdos, you rarely hear stories about good people.
Lusiøn He said that nobody wants me...which is totally not the case🤣🤪 and that’s why I called him a troll.
Seyi Majek
don't be sweet heart, you just got to find the right person that matches up with you. one that values you,and respects you.plus he has to know the Lord, someone whom loves the Lord and is a Christian will treat you wonderfully. I know in this crazy world we live in ,you just have to be cautious about anybody even if they call themselves "Christian " I told my husband up front I'm not here to just date and play around. I was a virgin when I met and married him.he respected me and loved me even more for that. ...My precious just be yourself and let it be known what your goals are like I did.But also, God lead us together because I told God to find me someone or I will be single forever because I'm not going to allow the dudes tell me im prude and they wasting time. ..I laughed at this one guy and told him yup buh bye. .when he tried and he actually slapped my face because I wouldn't fool around. I am Chaldean (middleastern )if you don't know what that is..I told him you don't test me,I tested you and you failed. ..never call me again. he tried,I told him I'll let my brothers deal with you and it won't be pretty.
If a relationship moves THAT fast, then be very wary...
Seriously crazy ppl like to rush then start the process of isolation
That’s true.
Amen yes. I was 17 when I met my 1st husband over the internet (I shudder when I think of it to this day) from the very first date everything was moving fast. He was a lot older than me, and I knew nothing about relationships/had never really had one. He was manipulative, a pathological liar and cheater. Now that I look back I get so angry at myself because now I see all those things I missed and dismissed. Fast forward 7 years later, I had enough of his shit, and it was hell trying to break free. He broke into my car, broke into my mom's house (where I was living) took my computer, got into my social media accounts posted things under me (horrible things), he chased me on the interstate going over 100mph. He did many other things but that would require a book 😒. What did the cops do even after I had a domestic violence order in place? Nothing.
Not always true i met my hubby and 1 month later we moved in together.i was 17 when we meet but turned 18 right before we moved in together.its now 27 years late weve been married for 25 of those 27 years.3 kids later and 2 grandsons and we are still very much in love and going strong.hes my best friend.
@@kathyhartzell3023 Exactly. It depends on the people involved. Like you can wait years and years in a relationship and that person can still turn out to be a psycho. You never truly know someone 100%
If someone shows you who they really are, BELIEVE THEM.
@Kitten Lyric
There are always signs. Nobody can hide their true selves 100%.
The problem is the conditioning society has been under, intentional or not, in the past 60 years to accept the behaviour we would normally and rightfully run far and fast from. The "red flags" have been accepted, excused and normalized for so long that people just accept them or have it in their heads that they can rescue or fix the problem person. People choose not to see it, or when they admittedly see it, they choose to accept it and make excuses for it. There are a number of personality traits that you can see right off that will tell you immediately if you are dealing with a wolf, a predator. Most people can see this upon meeting and will steer clear of it, often not even cognizant that they even read these traits, only knowing they either just did not like the person, immediately distrusted them, or just had a plain old bad feeling about the predator.
In turn, there are certain people that are easily susceptible to being preyed upon-"sheep" so to speak- that also have specific personality traits. Most regular people aren't predators, so they don't prey upon those easy targets, the sheep. The predator, on the other hand, well, they're even better at the regular person at reading little personality traits, and they prey upon the people that exhibit these personality traits and they take advantage of them in many terrible ways, violence and murder just being one of the ways. A predator can identify a victim by the victim's walk alone. The personality traits of the "victim" are reacted to differently by regular people, for example this woman in the above video, the murdered woman's friend's story of how she met the murdered woman and how open she was to her and was instantly her best friend. Now put a predator in the place of the friend. Imagine that meeting. See what I mean? The sheep personality is attracted to the wolf and vice versa.
In every single one of these incidents, you will have a number of these victims' friends and family stating that they knew the abusive-murdering partner was an issue from the very moment they meet them. Everyone around the victim sees what this monster is immediately upon meeting him and they warm the victim. The victim, for whatever reason, chooses not to see, chooses to excuse, chooses to stay. Family and friends keep trying to help, keep warning, keep telling the victim. The cycle continues.
Bottom line- when you meet someone, immediately introduce them to your loved ones and friends, trust them and listen to what they have to say. They love you and they won't steer you wrong. I'm not talking about your ma and dad, Rachel and Morty Sheckelstein don't approve because he's not a doctor or a lawyer, I mean when dad says, "He's polite, he has a good job, but there's just something about the way he looks at you...I don't trust him, honey.", listen to your father. He feels it. This guy may not kill or hurt you, but at the very least, he's going to be controlling, fussy, hard to please, demeaning, verbally abusive, probably cheat...
Learn the personality traits of a predator and learn to spot them and stay far away from them no matter how sexy they are or benevolent they may seem. Contact with them can only end in misery. Learn the personality traits of a victim or an enabler and do not exhibit them. Find them in yourself or a loved on and change them. These personality traits attract predators. If you do not exhibit them, predators will not come near you, 100% guaranteed.
We can only help ourselves. If you were a victim, you have my empathy. My little sister was murdered by one of these monsters at the age of 16 in 1994, so this subject hits home hard. I've become a survivor's advocate since then and have worked to change potential victims into strong people with no target on them, invisible to predators. It's the only thing that works. If you've been a victim, I hope you are no longer one. Sorry this was so long. I just have much to say on this matter.
The correct quote is "when a person shows you who they are believe them, the first time."-Maya Angelou
@SassyRed92 its best to be alone between relationships. Give yourself time to understand who you are.
The wrong kind of people usually show their true colours easily within 3 months normally I say 6 months.
I hope they solve this case but that reporter was scary to look at.
If he's too good to be true and if he's ocd, RUN!!!!
The most dangerous time for a woman is when they’re leaving their abuser. I would have popped up at her place regardless.
Yes. Backup. Let him think he might never get away from the surveillance.
You're a good friend
But isn’t it scary if both of u went and he could kill u both ? Maybe lesser chance but still scary
@@beckyysaurusaustine6498 it’s very scary to think of but I would rather try and help. Also, I’m a believer in the 911 wellness check so I wouldn’t have arrived without knowing officers are on their way.
@@mssugahill that’s true she shld have done that called the police in advance instead of leaving her
*Never date someone whose job it is to control every aspect of other people's lives*
😂😂😂
Facts asf
Statistically "Blue" Domestic Violence happens in 40% of law enforcement families dropping to 24% with older/more experienced officers. Since troubled cops also affect all of society, it would be to everyone's advantage for them to get more employee assistance program support and training.
@@mtaylor7307 Screw that noise about assistance. I say smash the blue wall of silence and lock abusive cops in jail.
@@mtaylor7307 and also stop Leftist politicians: DA, Judges from making good cops lives so miserable that only the bad cops will apply for the crumby job.
When you break up with someone don’t do it alone please watch and learn ladies 😡
Seelar Barhoum And men, lots of crazy as ladies as well
So true it is very dangerous ladies..
@@TRUMP-hk3en Exactly!
Do it from a distance
Breakup via carrier pigeon
0:56 “that man was attractive, charming, and swept Kelly off her feet.”
He offered her pepper at the salad bar.
i thought the same thing 😭😭😭
Lmao salad bar- sweet tomatoes?
She was attracted to his height and masculanity.
Yep, her sister did not sound impressed at all while relating the story, and we're all 100% with her.
Stop🤣☠🤣
My sister had an ex boyfriend that was obsessed with her and was mentally abusive. He wouldn't leave her alone when she broke up with him and kept texting her. When that didn't work, he texted me to convince her to go back with him, and telling me how he's the victim of all this. I was furious, and let him know my thoughts about him and to leave her alone.
One day he came to our apartment and texted her to go outside because he wanted to talk to her and say goodbye. I had a gut feeling that something wasn't right and being the person who watches a lot of criminal episodes like this one, forbid her from going. Luckily he quickly left when he spotted my brother coming home, and never contacted her again.
Who knows what he was going to do, but i didn't want to risk it, especially seeing how it results with victims like this poor woman.
Be careful people, there are a lot of bad bad monsters out there!!
My brother had an ex GF that was obsessed with him and was mentally abusive. She wouldnt leave him alone when he broke up with her & kept texting him. When that didnt work, she texted me to convince him to go back with her, and telling me how she's the victim of all this. I was furious, & let the gold digger know my thoughts about her, & to leave him alone.
One day she came to our Cattle Ranch & texted him to the driveway because she wanted to say goodbye. I had a gut feeling that something wasn't right and being a person who's seen 100s of men robbed & financially destroyed with child support, alimony, concocted domestic charges & media bias, I forbid him to go. Luckily she left quickly when she spotted my sister coming home, and never contacted him again.
Who knows what she was going to do, but i didnt want to risk it, especially seeing victims like Travis Alexander. Be careful people, there are a lot of bad bad gold digger whores out there!!
Covert Wasp 0/10. Better luck next time champ.
Dude hes on here what a fuckin psychoooo!!!!!!!!!
@@covertwasp5238 u sound ill
This is the most honest comment on the internet. Not like that made up crap he was replying to. We all know women are nothing but obsessive liers.
My mother left my abusive father. Mom told him she was going to my house to help me make food for my son’s 16th birthday. She came with no clothing other than what she was wearing. I picked her up and that was the last time she lived with him. She lived another 7 and 1/2 years glad to be away from him. We moved into a new neighbourhood that wasn’t mapped out yet. He looked for us and finally with his strong persistence he found us. My mother put up with so much crap and after 3 attempts she left him for good. I’m so happy she had some peace and quiet away from him.
Clever
I would do the same
This is perfect❤❤❤❤❤. I'm happy for her.
truly a blessing ❤️🙏🏾
@Bern Ochtabienski ❤Bern, your story just stole my Grandma Heart❤! You are the most caring, loving, and devoted daughter I have ever seen!! Your story is a story of "love in action"! Your mother could never have escaped without your guidance and sacrifice to get her to a place of safety!! You even moved with a child (or children?) to ensure her safety!! Happy that you were able to give her 7 and 1/2 years of peace and happiness!! You are an incredibly selfless and loving person and your Mother was so blessed to have a daughter like you!!!! I hope this reaches you after one year!! I pray, Bern, that God richly blesses you and your family and rewards you with every blessing for such devotion to your Mother!!❤❤❤❤
I'm happy for her ❤️🙏🙏
Never say your leaving as a survivor of a two year abusive relationship I only got away because I played it normal like I was going to a friends house and I never came back but for the cloths not for the shoes but for nothing I left . There’s nothing to say to a man who abuses you mentally or physically JUST LEAVE PLEASE!
Yup. You can’t let them know. As soon as they start sensing rejection, it gets bad. And when they know it’s OVER, that’s when it turns deadly
I AGREE. Most women who inform the abuser that they are leaving, really do not want to leave, they are hoping the abuser will talk them out of leaving. Stupid.
Yes my mom did the same thing after 20 years of abuse it was the only way to get out alive
Yep.. I said my mom wanted to see my sons, both under 3.. 10:30pm. Diaper bag & the clothes on my back.. and I never went back.
Everything else was replaceable.. but me and the kids.
I'm glad all of you are safe and sound...but it breaks my heart that so many of us have gone through that...
a gentle reminder ‘that you can’t help an abuser though anything’.
This is the kind of relationship where breaking up with someone via text and ghosting them is absolutely the way to go!
Who cares what other people think of you when your life is in danger?!?
That only works if the guy doesn't know where you live... obviously if the guy knows where you live, there is no such thing as ghosting to get him out of your life... If the dude wants to fuck your life up.. he pretty much can.
Breaking up by text is never acceptable. You have to talk face-to-face, or at least on the phone/Skype. You have to make it clear. Don't lead the person on by continually discussing it after the fact of breaking up. Break up. Give an explanation. If you're living together, say when you're moving out or when they have to be out by.
@Claire Yeah, of course. I'm talking about before thinking she might get killed. She was dumb for leading him on. She should've packed up, got out, and had nothing to do with him after that.
Some people can hack IP addresses, and find you sooooo yeah no..
Also I feel like she didn't have enough knowledge that this would definitely happen to quit the Police Academy which seemed to give her new hope...he would have just followed her home from there
Never let a toxic ex talk you into seeing them alone
Been there. Regret that
Exactly why do these women feel the need to breakup in person and alone with their abuser or possibly their killer you've got to wise up ,wise up,wise up and not fall 4 their bullshit OK. when you go alone you yes you are putting your life on the line its not worth it wise up
THAT man is NOT "attractive"
Tony Wellington compared to the majority, he’s ok but clearly a nut, red flags early on
He is as fine hunky beast of a man. The best thing whitemen have going on
@@bjvu9460 he's a BALD idiot
You gay?
That girl is not that good looking either she kinda has an ugly lizard face.
Classic red flags, the speed of how he moved in weeks into the relationship. Hopefully Kelly's family will see justice.
Going by herself to break up with her crazy boyfriend, what could go wrong
Right bad move
EIRE 32 EXACTLY HE'S A FUCKING MURDERING NUT.......
When I broke up with my ex he kept begging me to go see him in person I refused. The main reason being I got a bad feeling, and the thought that he might want to hurt me wouldn't go away. So even though he would blow up my phone with calls and texts I refused. Blocked on all platforms.
Yes. Very smart. Zero contact is what I think is best too.
Good for you, baby. I bet you are hot.
They are very slick. Read “The Sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout.. Those of us possessing a conscience have a tough time wrapping our heads around the idea of not having one. It’s reading that every woman should do. The indicators will help you to leave very early on.
Good for you.
Good decision, the right decision. Well done xx
Why do all the good souls die fast and the evil ones live long?
All the right things happen to the wrong ones
@@theherbpuffer amen
In Islam we say god (Allah (swt)) says he leaves the bad to fig a bigger hole for them selves in Hell he dosn't say it like but you get my point
sounds like youre implying all elderly people are evill which is pretty stupid logic
It's was written in the bible,if a good person lives 70 years,a bad one will live at least 10 more years
Never consider the feelings of someone that your gut says is violent and evil. No matter who they are. Stay away from them. Period.
I don't understand why some women go and meet with the man they're breaking up with. Just leave! She knew he was a devious stalker.
mingnon holmes Ummm... Because it's the decent god damn thing to do? Unless you mean specifically women in abusive relationships, in which case, I agree.
Jack Hanson being a devious stalker is abuse. It shows controlling behaviors that lead to her death.
Breaking up in person is the right thing to do.
mingnon holmes only white people!
Thus, the new trend -- ghosting.
“that man was charming”
are you blind?😭
In every single photograph look at his mouth. Not one smile is genuine.
pretty fuckn much !!
@@Bradmhj why you're so rude? Omg, so disrespectful
Lmfaoooooooo I’m crying
@A Human ok? You must have some low standards if he’s considered pretty to you. Your attitude is shit and so is your personality. So sensitive.
He vacuumed 3x a day? I barely vacuum 3x a week
I barely vacuum 3 x a month
crystalstar927 😂😂😂
Once a week if I'm in the mood. Kids are grown up now, when they were small i vacuumed three times a week, and dry mopped the floor every day....
7.756.935 yeah that is definitely something I still have to do. I have to sweep and dry mop the kitchen every day because my kids are still young
@@aight33 lazy girl 🤔🤭.
I always shudder when someone says "they always see the good"..typically that means they are overlooking the bad and red flags.
Dangerous.
I know there are women killers out there but damn. Literally 90% of these stories on this channel are of Weak, Fragile, Possessive "men" who cant move on from an ex. The old saying, "If i cant have her, Nobody can" rings true in alot of these cases. Its a damn shame that these dogs cant just off themselves instead of killing the innocent ones...
Weak fragile possessive women created them. All my closest friends were “off” in way that I couldn’t describe, but we were Always a duo(different friends at different stages in life) and they all had one thing in common : a strange ass woman they called mom. One was left in a dumpster as an infant. And later adopt by a scary ass woman. One was abandoned by a drug addicted mother, the other is currently living in a one bedroom apt with his mother(his place) and she’s practically his damn wife, the other had a seemingly perfect mom, but It was obvious he was her golden child and could do no wrong. And failed miserably trying to live up to her expectations. They all are womanizers and see women as disposable objects cuz if their love /hate relationship with their mommy.
eh i think you are downplaying the amount of people killing their partner so they can be with someone else that is also on this channel, id say that category alone takes up about 30-40% so this category can't be 90 lol.
eh now imagine the women who get away with it.. cause they're too small not mean enough.. not cold enough.. if you do the math for the ones who kill three husbands and get caught.. many will get away with 1-2 killings.
No offense to very good dogs
Well 40% of female homicide victims are killed by current or previous partners. Only 6% of men are and usually it’s in response to domestic abuse of the woman. So yeah the ratio of videos is close to reality
When they say they are going to make you disappear and tell you how they are going to do it, RUN!! File a restraining order.... dont chance anything with them!!!!!!
@Ruby Green no paper is gonna stop a monster from killing you.
@@missygray4128 tru
don't just run disappear
Missy Gray I should tell my boyfriend this just to mess with him. Lol! “I’m going to tie you up to a chair and make you eat chocolate cake all day and night lol
Certainly if you're training with the police tell all your police friends...I don't like nepotism but it's better than getting murdered and they'll probably get you any piece of paper you want
"He vacuum 3 times a day..."
*RED FLAG! GET OUT.*
So do I hahaha however I have 3 cats four guinea pigs and a parrot
I have to say this...people with ocd and clean loads are not killers.
Yup. Cuz normal dudes barely clean.
How's that red flag I spend hours of cleaning I vacuum like 5 times is that make me a bad person
Lol,yeah clean freak
Red Flag: Moving too FAST! Moving in with someone who you known for weeks 😩
It is complicated to date nowadays, doesn't matter if it's in person or if it's online, even friendship it's dangerous. Wish we could see ppl's hearts and intentions right away when we meet them.
otherhalfofthegun i agreed
otherhalfofthegun even family members can be dangerous... don’t know who to trust anymore.
Yeah exactly but that’s why we are suppose to guard our heart our feelings and use discernment. I’m careful who I meet even with laddies I met this lady all I wanted was friendship an she was so aggressive with wanting sex an very pushy it turned me off an well I’m glad I’m not friends with her anymore
Nothing's changed, there have been dangerous people in society since society began. If anything, we are at an advantage today in that there is a fair chance at getting a good idea of who a person is just by knowing their name.
@Fly Pelican Amen to that
Why does that interviewer keep yelling out her statements/questions ?
She wants to be noticed.
😂i know, right. . .
She’s a awful fucking creature
I know right? It scares me at times
I'm not just used to her style. LOL. It seems like she's happy and bubbly.
She really bothers me, yet on the other hand, I can imagine having sex with her. I hate it when that happens.
Her police training made her feel invincible and so she ignored all the warning signs.
My thoughts exactly. She thought because she was about to be a cop that she could handle an angry man.
@Bri Grant that's what they mean babe though she was in control.
Right like girl your still a woman you can’t beat a man unless she had a gun but I doubt she even brought one with her 🙄🤦🏼♀️
3 years in an abusive relationship and ive learned you have to smile and play the part until you are safe enough to run run run away and never go back.
💯💯💯🙏
This man has to go to prison.He murdered the woman.I can not understand why he is still free.
theirs no evidence that's why
Never go to break up with anyone in person especially abusive relationships. Just take your stuff and move on/ leave them.
Nikolai glodowski that’s exactly why she would tha
@Nikolai głodowski A prime example right here lol. Dumbfuck
Might need cops or sheriff departments help to get stuff and they could even attack them. Abuser can be male or female. John Bobbitt's penis was cut off.
Man or woman .... on a woman I just send a text or email
@Nikolai głodowski and then she would bring her bad ass best bud like me to rough you up ....
She’s 35? In some of those pics she looks SO young!
Jacques Matteo de Lusignan 😂 “SOME” of the pics she looks young ...like at :33. I don’t think she looks 35 at all? Then in other pics she just looks ... weird. Idk? Maybe I was too tired.
Jacques Matteo de Lusignan Thank you kind sir. 😉
I’m like “why is she with this old man” lmaoo
Thought she was still in high school 😂
@@natalierozean5989 ikihfrd
They always say that you should not be a coward and break up with someone face to face. NOPE!Text, phone call or email and then immediately hit the block button on everything! If you got thing in their place, replace them or ask an officer to go with you if it’s that important. People just snap.
Her friend should've followed her anyway! I would've
Stephanie Askew he would’ve murdered them both 🤷🏾♀️ it’s tough..
@@missinvie 2 women against 1 guy... nah.
@Stephanie Askew okay captain hindsight.
Derek A what grown ass woman ways 90lbs ?you making assumptions. If they’re not weaklings and he has no weapons they should be able to beat his ass. And no most men can’t beat up 2 guys vs 1 that’s called getting jumped. Most time of not that does not work. Me and my friend definitely could do it ☑️
Olen Olematta Ystäväsi it’s not hindsight, that’s not even the proper use of that word.
Never go alone when someone is abusive like this....... never go alone never go tf alone?...
Right...like did she think she can fight him off herself.
SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY THATS WHAT IT WAS...true story
Nora Zapata
Soon as they said he was obsessed with cleaning and it being done his way, I thought of that movie and the damn towels he beat her over.... Life is scarier than film.
Nora Zapata Omg Yes!
that's what I though when they said he was compulsive cleaning....ewwwwww
My now ex-husband used to freak out because I watched that movie so often. He was increasingly verbally and emotionally abusive to me, and when it started to escalate, I decided to get out. I have an almost photographic memory, and was always telling my friends at work what he had said to me or done during our increasingly frequent arguments. He knew he couldn't possibly get away with anything with them around. Every time we watched Sleeping With the Enemy I would cheer loudly when she killed her abusive husband at the end, and I think it started to make him think perhaps he should let me leave peacefully.
I left my abusive husband, after threatening me and my teenage daughters, I finally got my shit together and left. I disappeared with my kids. He found me once and made me come home (tracked my bank account). The next day he left for work I changed the locks on a house I owned. he got into my house, poisoned my daughter, raped me, and then somehow that night thought we were back together, i bullshitted him majorly, I rushed my daughter to hospital, I had Police go into my home and remove him. Then moved. This man is still a security officer for the government.
He had a GPS Tracker on her car or..her phone.
"hi I'm Kelly". "That's when I knew she was my best friend"
Yeah okay dude
I thought lesbian feelingd
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It was the sexual tone in her voice when she asked him for pepper at the salad bar. 😆😆😆😆🤦🏽♀️
Lmao
😅😅💯
“do you know how they met?”
“At a salad bar, he offered her pepper.”
what an amazing love story
Soooooooooo, meeting someone you later fall in love with has to be out of a fairytale story book? Because i dont know anyone that met that way. Usually it's at a gas station, the club, bar, while shopping or out eating somewhere. Most peoples first meetings could be in line with a Dr Seuss story.
oofbreanna / hahhahahah yeah he was extremely generous hahaha
😂😂😂 I knew she was desperate when I heard he vacuums 3 times a day.
oofbreanna he tried hard that one lol 🤔
You had me at " pepper"
When someone wants to move in quickly they likely need to establish control before the other person realizes they are a Phycho, they can only keep up their charade a month at best
I don't understand why she needed to break up with him. She already told him it was over. That's a breakup.
She needed to get her stuff back from his house
sometime just better to leave behind everything
however in her situation i would call a couple of guys from academy to help
objects can remind you for bad stuff too, not only for god things
I emailed my now estranged husband. Mainly because he is a narc and there isn't any reasoning with these types but also for my safety. Once a particular type of person loses that control over you, they can't bear it and will go to extreme lengths to regain it or pay you back with no consideration of consequence. Seems common sense to not do as this poor lady did, but clearly most of us do. Be safe belles.
Aqua K When I left my then husband I didn’t tell him, of course in arguments id say I leave, but when I actually did, I waited for him to go to work and get all my belongings and leave then. I had a 4 year old at the time too so I def didn’t want to risk my safety nor my child’s.
@@karimeherreramusic best way I believe. I have 2 young children. He didn't believe I would leave, Really thought he was the bee's knees and a gift. Pfft. Had to tell police, social support groups, family..cut mutual people off. Complete overhaul. No regrets whatsoever. Felt like the right thing and still does.
Glad you got away from him !
@@alexsanders9397 thank you. Me too. Best life
Ladies I had to do the same. Just left while he was at work.
My question is ...”did she light up a room?”
Sweet Tea u wrong fa that LFMAOAOAOAOAOO
Sweet Tea don't be sarcastic....she is dead . Show a little respect for victims !
Every person who is murdered lights up a room on these shows lol
She was the light of the room lol
Watched a few of these. Haven't heard them say that yet.
The way that the interviewer speaks and ask questions, my heart wanna pop out from my chest🤦♀️
yeah, I'm staying single.
Just don't date a nut case🙆
All you have to do is just get to know a person more for 3 years and if you like them then there I've liked this girl since 3rd grade she's nice and everything you would want in a girl
Me 2 and I’m just fine being alone! I’ve been single for almost 5 years and sometimes I get lonely but I no I’m better off alone...
Like you have a choice
Pedalbored actually I do...
Interviewer need to chill tho 😳 Coming off weirdly aggressive..throw her a Snicker bar
Melissa Jacobs maybe that’s her persona,that wasn’t nice yk.tsk
Lol
I just laughed out loud 😂
@@taylorharper5268 like i can relate cuz im a hangry bitch too but if i was i wouldnt be interviewing people you know? 😬
Lol
"Charming" is like a buzz word. So many creeps start out charming. So I'm staying away from those types. And I'm mindful of fast moving relationships. There is no reason to live together, especially after a few weeks.
Sky Robin
Good idea!
I learned that lesson the hard way...
Twice I've moved in with a new boyfriend within a month. BAD IDEA!!!
It's a little harder with the charm though... you want someone with a good personality that is likeable, but that isn't using charm to catch and hook, but change after they've got you in their clutches. It's a fine line between fake charm and a good personable individual.
Yess beware of people that move too fast and “fall deeply in love” within a matter of months
Yeah it was said that Ted Bundy was articulate and "charming". Your right no relationship should move that fast but women confuse sex with love ...sex is just physical, no attatchment.
C'mon! Do you own a mirror? For focks sake, consider yourself lucky if an animal gives you attention. You fugly gurl...
There is definitely something to be said for people who come off too hard, too strong, too fast. The "you're the love of my life you're my everything (I just met you 2 weeks ago)" type. They may not all be abusive killers, but they always have serious problems.
Don't ever ever think that you can outwit a psychopath or a narcissist.. don't think that you can handle them don't think you don't need anyone else's help in dealing with them.. do not try to do it on your own as this poor girl did.
I have learned one thing from these cases
1. You don't need to tell him that you are leaving, just get the hell out of there.
2. Alert authorities of the situation if you have to.
3. Under no circumstances are you to meet up with him after you have broken it off.
4. It doesn't hurt to become Licensed for a fire arm to protect your family and the people around you. These fools aren't afraid of hurting those closest to you.
5. Pretend you never knew his ass .. If you see him have your piece of steal ready and watch your back..
This is happening way too much . The scary thing is that young teens and women think that it will never happen to them.
@Kitten Lyric True.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
charlene Mayo it’s true never would think it could
1. I disagree. If you're leaving a relationship, particularly when you're living together, yes, you should always tell your partner that you are leaving.
2. Yes.
3. Probably good advice.
4. That's for Americans, not the rest of us.
5. Ditto.
There is no way in hell that I would've let my friend go home to break up with someone who was clearly crazy and stalking her. Even had she told me no I would have followed her home anyway.
Exactly! I would have told her "tough shit I'm coming whether you like it or not"!!
Both of you would have been dead. She is a grown woman that made a very bad decision for the sake of love. Her friend told her not to go,that was her instinct telling her that there was a danger awaiting her there but ignored it.
Well that isn't smart either, what makes you think you're any safer than this chick he supposedly loves??? Like he wouldn't just kill you too.
It would have been smart to play the game with her and him too... Meaning "okay you don't want me to come? You're sure? Fine... I'll go home, call me later" and then follow at a DISTANCE... Don't just expose yourself because that's how you lose.
Unfortunately, with dangerous people it's crucial to NOT let on that you know what they're doing, you've seen them without their mask on because that's the thing they protect at all cost... Their true identity/true intent.. these people make it so far without being caught because they spend their lives learning how to mimic other people so they can appear more "normal". Look into it.
I think the interviewer did 6 lines of coke beforehand.
@Joe Brett - Is that what she did? She's really, really strange.
I think she did 6 scarface PILES of coke!
So funny when she SCREAMS - "David Perry, what can U tell me about this guy?"
Then the cop quietly responds with a look of horror.
Hahaha
@@JabberJawz. No shit! I was laughing so hard... like, what the fuck just happened???
Then fell asleep under a tanning light😂
Lol! She looks high and keeps screaming.
Never tell a man you are leaving plan your strategy and RUN for your life!!
Soooo many jealous and over-possessive men out there, Jesus Christ.
Sh** is out of control
I thought I was a little jealous but man, these guys take it to a whole nutha level!! Any man that kills the woman he supposedly loves, needs to be put down like a rabid dog.
All I see a facts, twisted ass people man 😔
Sabrina Garcia true story 🙏🏻💜
@@danielbrown1724 F 😔
Yes there is alot of jealous and possessive and abusive men ,out there its hard to leave its very hard very hard I have had my share of these maniacs
A little jealousy is not a bad thing. My ex husband, married to me for 22 years, prided himself on his absence of jealousy. It was all fine, since I did have a couple of male friends, but later on he said he wouldn't even care if I slept with other guys.
That was the beginning of the end, how important could I be to a guy who said that?
So, being a little jealous is normal. It's the over bearing possessiveness and controlling behaviours that aren't.
I’m a lucky survivor of domestic violence. I grew up in foster care, I was born with a lot of alcohol in my system (probably y I hate alcohol today) I was taken away at 1 yrs old due to having cigarette burns all over my chest. I went back home at 13. My mom had an abusive husband & he choked me too. Anyway, so I starting dating this guy at 14. I was only looking for a way out of my moms house. The guy lived with his father, but his dad worked from 3 a.m till 10 p.m so, the abuse started almost right away. Now I was stuck in between. The guy was controlling, abusive, he told me he was gonna put me with the fishes. I been through a lot with him. It came to a point where it was DO or DIE. I grabbed a knife & I kept it hidden & the next abuse. I stabbed him. From all the traps I put, I was able to escape. This lil mother fucker was fast like a road runner so I knew at that moment, I needed to outsmart him & be faster than him. Long story. I put him in jail for 12 yrs. he got so many charges including rape, & kidnapping
You're a survivor and an inspiration
Good for you! You have endured, survived, and made a good life for yourself without the toxics 😊
Good for you sweetheart!! You brave brave woman...
I'm so sad and sorry to read your lifes story. I hope you are on the road to recovery. All the trauma you went through at such a young age is hard for me to imagine. I'm 59 and had a very good childhood. I've meet some dickhead men in my life but there you go. I hope you are now in a happy place you sound like you are a strong person take care from the UK xxx
@@carolechance6567 Ty sweetie.
If you have someone crazy like that following you, you dont stay at the friend's house. You guys go and stay somewhere else. When will women learn!!
Or when will men stop abusing women..
When will people stop abusing others!!
Wow, what a stunning ending. Who would have ever expected her boyfriend to kill her other than pretty much everybody.
Im so surprised he did it despite the fact that he clearly said he would. Mystifying.
He had a GPS on her phone. Duh
She shouldve went with her police friends.
A jealous partner can be so dangerous! 😩 That’s why I’m single now! I can’t deal with a possessive person! My ex was like that! He makes me wanna be single FOREVER!
Dear Ladies, Please pray for discernment. Get to know someone before starting a life with them.
I get why she had to go home, because her belongings where there. But she really should have had at 2 other people there with her so she can collect her things fast and so there’s less of a chance of him hurting her. She probably also knows his schedule and should have gone when he wouldn’t be there. She could have easily broken up with on the phone, block his number, and block him from all her social media accounts.
Your Dad yes or get a police officer to assist you with grabbing your belongings
Yeah, in situations like that, people can always call the police and ask for an escort and explain your fearful of your ex.
Forget about those things! They could be replaced. Unfortunately your life is more important. Especially! After being threatened.
For this exact reason my sister called me up and got me to be her bodyguard whule she moved her shit out of her apartment after her ex strangled her until she lost consciousness (he bashed her face until she regained consciousness and then did it over and over again bout 6 times), I am so thankful she is a quick thinker and defused the bastard enough to escape to her workplace, we grabbed her stuff a couple of hours later then the next morning she pressed charges and got him locked up and we found out through court that he actually kidnapped and bashed his previous ex before my sister but the girl wrote the judge a letter begging for mercy on him. This made my sister more determined to throw the book at him because she's convinced his next girlfriend he will succeed and kill her, and honestly I think she's right
Your Dad I agree...and then she should have gotten a gun and restraining order
I don't like this interviewer she's too aggressive
he vacuumed 3x a day!😂😂😂
I Barely Vacuum 3x a month
probably he is OCD
You vacuum 3X a month? I vacuum 3X a year.
@@skwozies3083 i very possibly have vacuumed 3x...
@@domusdebellum3042 LOL
Domus deBellum I have never vacuumed
That tv host asking questions looks like alien in MIB movie