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@@ZReviewsothers didnt mention delay!Maybe its just your sony,or you forced ldac to them 😵💫!Whatever,ihave just acc,i cant broke them on blutooth🤣! More than 20 hours in this slim case,amp/dac,buttons,fold,openback!!Whaaaaaaat?!
Yes, in case you wondered, they were so awesome in 1984 that everyone in my division (I was in the Navy) bought them after they heard mine on my Walkman clone. Then we bought them for all of our sonar stations, and then bought them 4 more times as they started to disapear...
@@The_Shock_and_Awe You couldn't be more wrong, dude. They definitely DO NOT sound like that crap. They LOOK cheap, but sound great, especially for the price.
the Koss porta pros have been my new all time favorite headphones, all the pros of earbuds and headphones, and only two cons (for me), has a wire, and looks a little unique in public. definitely getting these for my friends against their will 👍
This is the most hyped i have been for any headphone release in the last two decades of this hobby. There is no hyperbole there at all. I cannot overstate how blissfully content I feel.
I remember buying the originals at j&r music word back in the day. When the cable pulls out you would solder them back. We all relate to your videos, thanks for putting out amazing content.
Also for those who, like me, were scared of SBC coded vs Apt-X and Ldac.. Apparently new phones like my sony probably use the new SBC Xq is equivalent to Apt-X. which is why I like it so much more than the AAC offered. SO REJOICE AGAIN.. if you have a newer phone!
Here I am thinking my KPH40 were the last Koss headphones I ever needed to buy. God, they nailed it this time, after the abysmal first non-wireless wireless Porta Pros. Incredible how they managed to put everything inside the almost unchanged design.
Porta Pros surprised me back in the day by how much the actually produce bass for the build and how well they are tuned for the price. Too veiled for me nowadays, but in case you don't want to spend one billion dollars on audio, you can just buy these (maybe a cheap dongle too) and be done with it. Used to drive these with the Moondrop Dawn.
Watching this review i suddenly realized i am wearing my 15-year-old Portapros...w/ Yaxi pads! I like them for the office better than KPH40's because I think the Portapros sound better at lower volumes. I think the KPH40's need to be played louder to really shine. Pair either with the ifi Go Blu and love sound without spending a ton.
Somehow after using these for several years, I assumed the little side switches were for like the collapsing mechanism and I just had the biggest - no way moment followed by relief. thank you lmao
Ughhhh the NEED I have for this but in their black and gold edition to match my current pair or PortaPros. I yelled at you when you said to calm down, as if you can actually hear me. Lol. "THEY'RE TWS PORTAPROS!"
Listening to this review on my gen 1 porta pro wireless 🙂 these look to address the problems i have with the gen 1s. Edit - but also seems to raise new problems/concerns 😅
Agree. I'm sure it would be challenging though just cuz there's not a band to kind of connect everything. But I don't know I guess you could kind of make them oversized open ear TWS sort of things
Yeah, KSC pads do that too, not sure what they're made of but I never imagined synthetic materials could rot like that. Maybe Koss were being environmentalist before it was cool and making biodegradable plastics already in the 80s? LOL
AAC has the same Bandwidth as SBC so no point expecting a significant better output. Only SBC and AAC is very unfortunate and a hard pass for me. If you listen to taiko drums and flute on a simple track sure it might be enough. But try more complicated or convoluted songs (pretty much any Punk rock song) and SBC will make a mess out of it. The informations that get lost while squeezing thru the codec can never be restored, it is not a matter of DAC, amplifier or driver quality. What is gone is gone. aptx HD would have been cool as it can be used on pc/ laptops.
I randomly thought about the last Koss buds I owned called The plug about ten years ago, exactly yesterday. Now, this video pops up in my feed. These phones are spooky as shit.
A small piece of plastic, shaped with the file, and tiny bit of blue tack would keep you from voiding the warranty while still letting you keep the spring set to light
I probably need to give Koss another shot. They sound great for the money but I'm too rough on anything portable and these just aren't built to take it.
I miss my kph30i’s, my favourite headphones but they broke at the headband, Koss replaced them for me for free three times but every pair broke in the same place. Now I use AirPods Pro’s. Maybe I should give these a go.
They should just release a version where you pay a bit more for LDAC, seeing as SBC and AAC just aren't that great. (People did it for MQA, so why not LDAC) I'd pay the extra to have a codec that isn't crap.
There's some cushions pads you need to check out for these... check them out to say if these are too thick or cool... if those others need more volume, these will be worse... but there is purple and the blue and red combo... or either or or black
I have some of the Koss Portas and KHP whatever they are wired. Very cool. But I currently am rocking the wonderful VMODA BT Crossfades I bought like 3 yrs ago, and they are spectacular, so I just don't need these. Do these even have any power? The VMODAs have tons of power for BT phones. They are also comfortable all day long, literally no pressure or discomfort. Battery life is beyond belief.
@@denislemieux7294 The VMODAs? Not to my ears, they have some great bass, but they aren't like Beats the bass is controlled, tight, etc. more than deep and annoying. A bit of a low end emphasis but not too much. They also boast excellent mids for vocals, have a good soundstage of sorts, and the high end is even fantastic, not clashy or harsh at all. Overall I would describe the VModas as snappy and warm sounding. Bass is solid but never overwhelming. I have the Sennheiser Urbanite XLs, the bass on those is a lot deeper but not nearly as defined.
Wonder how long until we can buy these in the UK. I modded a pair of KCS75 to be bluetooth, was going to attempt it with TWS but was too much hard work to figure it out.
Have you considered just taking better care of your belongings or buying a more expensive thing once, rather than moving from one cheap product with a limited lifespan to a new cheap product with an even more inevitable limited lifespan?
@@ChrisStoneinator The cables on the Koss Porta Pro's are known famously for failing, same for the pads wearing but they can be changed easily. I've not owned a pair of Porta Pro's for well over a decade now, have moved onto IEMs for on the move audio but these being wireless is very temping for the nostalgia factor!
@@ChrisStoneinatorWhat you just explained about the failing is 💯 correct. However, these Koss headphones porta, 75s, 40s etc. are legendary for sound. I’m on my 3rd set of 75s and they’re just awesome. Light, comfortable, and that sound. Better than much more expensive headphones.
The previous Wired, wireless was $89. Think about the unit they are adding. The battery, BT controller, a micro amp and dac. Then re-engineer the molds to accommodate. The headphone is NORMALLY $50. So you are adding $50 for all that functionality.
@@ZReviews True. However I don't have neither and plan on buying one soon and the wired is a no Brainer. Maybe if the tws goes on sale black Friday I'll pick it up if it's under $70.
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD !!!!!!!! Anyone tried gaming with these? Any BT adapter recommendations that work with ps5 and pc ? Now finally maxwell got a worthy competitor for wireless headphones. OH MY GOD
Honestly he probably make more money doing it independently this way when they give him 10 for free and he sells them with commission. Z That's probably sold thousands of different koss sets ... You definitely talk to me into buying the KPH-30i. But that was easier at 20 bucks to stomach
@@VonnegutRosewater-yi4rk i was so close on buying the kph40i back when his review dropped, but on my region they cost like double if not more for some reason
Modern OS versions on transmitter devices have implemented the extreme quality profile of SBC called SBC-XQ, transmitting at about 551 kbps, which sounds about as good as aptX-HD and makes aptX and AAC irrelevant. All SBC receivers have always supported this profile, no updates needed in receiver devices. Now LDAC... could still be relevant, but only if locked at max fidelity, i.e. 44.1 kHz/ 16-bit/ 909 kbps.
@@d0nj03 Thank you for the education! Do you know if the Google Pixel devices - specifically the Google Pixel 9 Pro XL supports transmitting the SBC-XQ codec? If so, could you share any proof?
well, I got the originals back in 84 or 85, they were amazing with the sony d5 I had. the wireless are outta stock now? wtf, pls send me one of yours. I also love your video on the Klipsch KLF 10, I love mine with a rouge audio sphynx pushing them.
I wish Koss would just sell the headband separately because the original design is very annoying, but not annoying enough to buy Wireless 2.0 just for it.
These sound way worse than the last Bluetooth version. I tried with all different bluetooth codecs. The one you mention helps, but still a lot worse than last version. :( Super sad, this form factor is so much better than the stupid cable around the back of your neck. Of well. Guess I can gift these to someone, still good, but old ones sounded much better. God damn it!
I was looking for cheapish bluetooth headphones for tv listening, but the audio delay has me worried. Is this only a thing on phones or would this happen on a tv as well?
what would be cool is if they had the shared audio for Apple products... then everyone in the room could be playing music/movies while all listening to the porta pro.... they couldn't keep them in stock and sold out all of the time... these will be nice while driving as they are so small and light...
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I love the koss,but with this huge delay its just a pain in the ass the BT version!
I haven't confirmed that on other people's devices yet @@pappsa8
@@pappsa8 I need to verify that happens on more than just my one phone.
@@ZReviewsothers didnt mention delay!Maybe its just your sony,or you forced ldac to them 😵💫!Whatever,ihave just acc,i cant broke them on blutooth🤣!
More than 20 hours in this slim case,amp/dac,buttons,fold,openback!!Whaaaaaaat?!
Sad reality of 2024
Yes, in case you wondered, they were so awesome in 1984 that everyone in my division (I was in the Navy) bought them after they heard mine on my Walkman clone. Then we bought them for all of our sonar stations, and then bought them 4 more times as they started to disapear...
I assume they sound like the headphones you get on airlines I'm still yet to try them though
@@The_Shock_and_Awe You couldn't be more wrong, dude. They definitely DO NOT sound like that crap. They LOOK cheap, but sound great, especially for the price.
@@mistersurrealist 😆 😂 I'm just joking because they look like them
"I got a lot to say, and not a lot of time to say it" - I check the video length... 43 mins 🤣. TY Z, love it
Z and Flossy Carter. "Quick" is always at least 45 mins
I was just thinking, why he talking about magic markers and everything else but not the porta pro
We're Koss guys
Koss Co. Guys
the Koss porta pros have been my new all time favorite headphones, all the pros of earbuds and headphones, and only two cons (for me), has a wire, and looks a little unique in public. definitely getting these for my friends against their will 👍
This is the most hyped i have been for any headphone release in the last two decades of this hobby. There is no hyperbole there at all. I cannot overstate how blissfully content I feel.
I'll take a pair. Lost my wired pair about 8 years ago. Almost bought the last "wireless" model. So glad I waited.
I bought the porta pros last week, I love them, guess I'm ordering these now too.
I remember buying the originals at j&r music word back in the day. When the cable pulls out you would solder them back. We all relate to your videos, thanks for putting out amazing content.
I remember j&r music world, sadly the internet age made it fade away.
Also for those who, like me, were scared of SBC coded vs Apt-X and Ldac.. Apparently new phones like my sony probably use the new SBC Xq is equivalent to Apt-X. which is why I like it so much more than the AAC offered. SO REJOICE AGAIN.. if you have a newer phone!
I have no fucking idea what any of that means
@@accountname-tu2omnobody knows what it means but it’s provacative.
@@accountname-tu2om Bluetooth code, the ones he listed allow for hifi over bluetooth.
WOAH!!! a MASSIVE gateway into high end audio has been updated to be wireless?!? yes please.
Just bought some Porta Pro Wireless! 😁 saw em and thought they looked awesome. I’ve been sick of earbuds, so I figured I’d give em a try!
Here I am thinking my KPH40 were the last Koss headphones I ever needed to buy. God, they nailed it this time, after the abysmal first non-wireless wireless Porta Pros. Incredible how they managed to put everything inside the almost unchanged design.
Yes, these KOSS were the BEST portable headphones you can buy. Bass and sound quality was remarkable.
Porta Pros surprised me back in the day by how much the actually produce bass for the build and how well they are tuned for the price. Too veiled for me nowadays, but in case you don't want to spend one billion dollars on audio, you can just buy these (maybe a cheap dongle too) and be done with it. Used to drive these with the Moondrop Dawn.
can't believe how coincidental this video is because I was just going through my Koss Porta Pro collection which were in storage for quite some time.
thanks for the Hart-Audio discount, I needed a new cable for my DT770 Pro X's. Big ups, Zeos!
No problem brah 👍
I still rock my massdrop pair.
Watching this review i suddenly realized i am wearing my 15-year-old Portapros...w/ Yaxi pads! I like them for the office better than KPH40's because I think the Portapros sound better at lower volumes. I think the KPH40's need to be played louder to really shine. Pair either with the ifi Go Blu and love sound without spending a ton.
Now I'm happy again.
Thanks for the video Z! If you don’t have crazy glue you can also trim the blue tab on the other side
Kph40 is the goat
I just bought a replacement cable for my m50X's from Hart Audio YESTERDAY!!
Order it again! or email James.
Such a fantastic device!
I made it exactly 2:24 in before I amaz one clicked the shit out of this. Last time you did this to me was the Klipsch Forte 3's! Thanks again Z.
Seems like this is a far less dramatic purchase.
@@ZReviews Indeed, but these are really great! Especially with the pad upgrade! Thanks man!
Somehow after using these for several years, I assumed the little side switches were for like the collapsing mechanism and I just had the biggest - no way moment followed by relief. thank you lmao
BTW... I'm that grandfather back in 1984.
Are they perfect?
@@BurittoSandwich Pretty close. Pretty darn close.
Onetigris was my go to for YEARS for airsoft. And is deffo overkill for carrying something like this. It's perfect. I'll grab a pair immediately.
Ughhhh the NEED I have for this but in their black and gold edition to match my current pair or PortaPros. I yelled at you when you said to calm down, as if you can actually hear me. Lol. "THEY'RE TWS PORTAPROS!"
I was not expecting mad science hour... It's been a while
Star-Lord is happy... Mine arrive tomorrow :D
Perfect compact Travel headphones. Especially with the 3.5 mm cable for the plane. That was the downside of the old Bluetooth.
I am showing a 20% off amazon already for them! Wish they shipped to Germany for me
Now you can have all the hair pulling with none of the hassle from cords!
bless, take my money.
Listening to this review on my gen 1 porta pro wireless 🙂 these look to address the problems i have with the gen 1s. Edit - but also seems to raise new problems/concerns 😅
@16:00 you could also just use hot glue, and it'll come off without voiding the warranty 😉
Your energy is good I'm liking it
watching with on a modded KSC75 with a mmcx cable and 3rd party portapro headband. this could be the next pickup fr
Koss finally made the Porta Pros truely wireless, that's ok i didn't need that money anyway
i don't why but my portapro earpads literally disintegrated in a drawer over the years. i'd love to see them make a wireless ksc75...
Agree. I'm sure it would be challenging though just cuz there's not a band to kind of connect everything. But I don't know I guess you could kind of make them oversized open ear TWS sort of things
Yeah, KSC pads do that too, not sure what they're made of but I never imagined synthetic materials could rot like that. Maybe Koss were being environmentalist before it was cool and making biodegradable plastics already in the 80s? LOL
AAC has the same Bandwidth as SBC so no point expecting a significant better output.
Only SBC and AAC is very unfortunate and a hard pass for me. If you listen to taiko drums and flute on a simple track sure it might be enough. But try more complicated or convoluted songs (pretty much any Punk rock song) and SBC will make a mess out of it.
The informations that get lost while squeezing thru the codec can never be restored, it is not a matter of DAC, amplifier or driver quality. What is gone is gone. aptx HD would have been cool as it can be used on pc/ laptops.
Right. For $100 these should have modern codec support. I guess Koss is banking on most folks not having a clue what we're talking about.
I think they're right because I don't care about any of that lol
Is it a really noticeable? Cuz I mostly listen to metal or dubstep so I rather just get the wired pros if that’s the case :/
I randomly thought about the last Koss buds I owned called The plug about ten years ago, exactly yesterday. Now, this video pops up in my feed. These phones are spooky as shit.
A small piece of plastic, shaped with the file, and tiny bit of blue tack would keep you from voiding the warranty while still letting you keep the spring set to light
I feel like the spring would throw out anything you put in there. I tried Blue-Tac first. Just instant SQUEEESH
The nazuna wallpaper is nice
i have the porta pros but with an mmxc mod since i couldn't find one online with 2 pin mod sadly, love them
I probably need to give Koss another shot. They sound great for the money but I'm too rough on anything portable and these just aren't built to take it.
Z, Scala & Kolacny Brothers: "Yellow". Best, D.
Going to buy one, heard they had limited stock.
This is not a tutorial, is a lifestyle! hahah
I miss my kph30i’s, my favourite headphones but they broke at the headband, Koss replaced them for me for free three times but every pair broke in the same place. Now I use AirPods Pro’s. Maybe I should give these a go.
Just found you’re channel! Just subbed! Question what monitor is that?
Vertical NEC EA294wmi amzn.to/4eqqjJk
Could you bug them to make a usb to 3.5mm cable with a boom mic?
Do we know when these will be available in UK, please?
I see the iLoud Micro Monitors the second addition are to be called the Pro's
Are these good for a quiet office? I need then to let in sound so i can hear my surroundings but not bleed sound. Imagine a very quiet office.
They should just release a version where you pay a bit more for LDAC, seeing as SBC and AAC just aren't that great.
(People did it for MQA, so why not LDAC)
I'd pay the extra to have a codec that isn't crap.
There's some cushions pads you need to check out for these... check them out to say if these are too thick or cool... if those others need more volume, these will be worse... but there is purple and the blue and red combo... or either or or black
The black are leather also.. seen many places but seen to originate on AliExpress
I bet 80% has a file. Because it comes attached to most nail clippers 😊
The Hell?!! 😮 KOSS is back with a new set of headphones??
Men shouldn’t cry
But I’ll make an exception for the final episode of The Grand Tour
FINALLY.
I have some of the Koss Portas and KHP whatever they are wired. Very cool. But I currently am rocking the wonderful VMODA BT Crossfades I bought like 3 yrs ago, and
they are spectacular, so I just don't need these. Do these even have any power? The VMODAs have tons of power for BT phones. They are also comfortable all day long,
literally no pressure or discomfort. Battery life is beyond belief.
Aren’t they extremely bassy? My ears can’t handle that.
@@denislemieux7294 The VMODAs? Not to my ears, they have some great bass, but they aren't like Beats the bass is controlled, tight, etc. more than deep and annoying. A bit of a low end emphasis but not too much. They also boast excellent mids for vocals, have a good soundstage of sorts, and the high end is even fantastic, not clashy or harsh at all. Overall I would describe the VModas as snappy and warm sounding. Bass is solid but never overwhelming. I have the Sennheiser Urbanite XLs, the bass on those is a lot deeper but not nearly as defined.
@@thiscorrosion900I’ll take a look at them. Thanks.
I love the Koss, although i dont prefer using wireless so these might not be for me.
Wonder how long until we can buy these in the UK.
I modded a pair of KCS75 to be bluetooth,
was going to attempt it with TWS but was too much hard work to figure it out.
I own a file... But sandpaper works too. Just gotta be careful not to scuff the metal. Don't want to make you r brand new portas ugly.
The easy solution for that is to add some masking tape over the metal parts before filing or sanding anything
Very tempted to get these as one of the main point of failures on the originals is the actual wire itself, been through tons of them.
Have you considered just taking better care of your belongings or buying a more expensive thing once, rather than moving from one cheap product with a limited lifespan to a new cheap product with an even more inevitable limited lifespan?
@@ChrisStoneinator The cables on the Koss Porta Pro's are known famously for failing, same for the pads wearing but they can be changed easily.
I've not owned a pair of Porta Pro's for well over a decade now, have moved onto IEMs for on the move audio but these being wireless is very temping for the nostalgia factor!
@@ChrisStoneinatorWhat you just explained about the failing is 💯 correct. However, these Koss headphones porta, 75s, 40s etc. are legendary for sound. I’m on my 3rd set of 75s and they’re just awesome. Light, comfortable, and that sound. Better than much more expensive headphones.
From $35 wired to $99 wireless is diabolical
More than double really... 😭
tbf they had to add a battery, get a circuitboard to fit inside and add a wireless transmitter all while keeping the original look, the R&D adds up
The previous Wired, wireless was $89. Think about the unit they are adding. The battery, BT controller, a micro amp and dac. Then re-engineer the molds to accommodate. The headphone is NORMALLY $50. So you are adding $50 for all that functionality.
@@ZReviews True. However I don't have neither and plan on buying one soon and the wired is a no Brainer. Maybe if the tws goes on sale black Friday I'll pick it up if it's under $70.
@@avedgy I'd think $80 is the lowest this goes. And 100% worth it for the abilities.
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!
Anyone tried gaming with these? Any BT adapter recommendations that work with ps5 and pc ?
Now finally maxwell got a worthy competitor for wireless headphones. OH MY GOD
And... Koss hasn't hired you yet as their Director of Marketing? for shame!
Honestly he probably make more money doing it independently this way when they give him 10 for free and he sells them with commission. Z That's probably sold thousands of different koss sets ... You definitely talk to me into buying the KPH-30i. But that was easier at 20 bucks to stomach
@@VonnegutRosewater-yi4rk ironic as I watched this video using my kph30i's, too. 😀
@@VonnegutRosewater-yi4rk i was so close on buying the kph40i back when his review dropped, but on my region they cost like double if not more for some reason
omfg yesss they actually made it 🥵
@ZReviews, You had me until @5:18 - No Aptx/ No LDAC = No Sale.
Modern OS versions on transmitter devices have implemented the extreme quality profile of SBC called SBC-XQ, transmitting at about 551 kbps, which sounds about as good as aptX-HD and makes aptX and AAC irrelevant. All SBC receivers have always supported this profile, no updates needed in receiver devices. Now LDAC... could still be relevant, but only if locked at max fidelity, i.e. 44.1 kHz/ 16-bit/ 909 kbps.
@@d0nj03 Thank you for the education! Do you know if the Google Pixel devices - specifically the Google Pixel 9 Pro XL supports transmitting the SBC-XQ codec? If so, could you share any proof?
well, I got the originals back in 84 or 85, they were amazing with the sony d5 I had. the wireless are outta stock now? wtf, pls send me one of yours. I also love your video on the Klipsch KLF 10, I love mine with a rouge audio sphynx pushing them.
Bottom feeder song. “ I will bottom feed one day and buy them for half price” “it may take me 2-3 years but it will come to be”
Will wait for true wireless KSC35
Still prefer the KSC75
Yep, listening to this on vacation on my $20 KSC75 and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Sir, can you share your thoughts about elac debut connex dcb41, thanks!
So could I theoretically pop out the portapro and clip in my KSC75’s into the wireless headband?
i want to know this too
You said you love Dekoni over that Yaxis, why?)
Fellows, anyone had experience with both?
I use KPH40 with es100 and it is awesome! How does this compare?
In general I think the PortaPro is softer
I've had YAXI pads for PortaPro and Grado and they both sound muffled to shit. They are fine after coin modding.
Tempting to buy just to do a ksc75 driver swap mod on them.
Just wait..
Great now I feel even more weird wearing my r70x
They're sold out, I weep.
Nobody is talking about the wallpaper
Gotta do your part
Well shit. Now I'm ordering another pair of headphones I will use twice a year while I laugh about Zeos being totally right about me needing them.
Use them more. I just adopted a set for use on my live streams instead of the wired KPH40.
I wish Koss would just sell the headband separately because the original design is very annoying, but not annoying enough to buy Wireless 2.0 just for it.
Let me know when they get KPH40 wireless. No mods required…Okay maybe I’ll change the pads.
All men own files. And hammers. And screwdrivers. And wrenches.
These sound way worse than the last Bluetooth version. I tried with all different bluetooth codecs. The one you mention helps, but still a lot worse than last version. :( Super sad, this form factor is so much better than the stupid cable around the back of your neck. Of well. Guess I can gift these to someone, still good, but old ones sounded much better. God damn it!
Thinking about getting this or fiio ff5 plus a wireless dac like a btr13.
I was looking for cheapish bluetooth headphones for tv listening, but the audio delay has me worried. Is this only a thing on phones or would this happen on a tv as well?
what would be cool is if they had the shared audio for Apple products... then everyone in the room could be playing music/movies while all listening to the porta pro.... they couldn't keep them in stock and sold out all of the time... these will be nice while driving as they are so small and light...
Does these come with these red and blue pads ootb?
How do they compare to Marshall Major V ?
Consider me a friend, friend. If you have an extra pair, I'd give them love.
Grado wireless vs these 🧐
anyone know when these will restock can't find them for sale anywhere not even on eBay
Hey Zeos! What cable do you have on your KPH40?
SBC even sounds better then AAC on their own devices