I ranked every Defect card in Slay The Spire

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  • @AvangionQ
    @AvangionQ 3 года назад +561

    23:10 "I know I can exploit the shit out of my chat with this... we're going to make claw in its own tier... and for every five gifted subs, the row moves up"
    That was about the funniest thing I've seen all day ... laughed so hard, had a coughing fit ... 😹

    • @tonykaze
      @tonykaze Год назад +10

      just got funnier when the sub spam didn't stop for 5 minutes

    • @PatrickH-H
      @PatrickH-H 3 месяца назад

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  • @namakehruk
    @namakehruk 3 года назад +899

    Logically I know that Creative AI isnt that good, but every time I see one all thoughts in my head are replaced by "hehehehhohohohoheoheoheeheheheheoh"

    • @florescublogzbi2705
      @florescublogzbi2705 3 года назад +4

      I wanted to give you a like, but I can't ruin the perfection. Nice. Fuck claw gang, creative AI ftw.

    • @nategerrard5256
      @nategerrard5256 3 года назад

      X

    • @Izunundara
      @Izunundara 2 года назад +113

      "Yo but what if Creative AI gives you ANOTHER CREATIVE AI" = lizard brain purring

    • @m3myselfn1
      @m3myselfn1 2 года назад +36

      @@Izunundara This is literally how I FINALLY got my Focus achievement: Act 1, early Creative AI, in a fight vs a slime, with 2 frost which block me 10 every turn so the slime doesn't damage me, I farmed powers until I had enough Biased Cognitions to get to 25 focus (I promptly lost that run the next fight because I was at 4 hp trying to get the achievement, but who cares)

    • @ozb1010
      @ozb1010 2 года назад +31

      Twice in a row I got it with the red hand relic that makes power cards cause a random card in your hand cost 0, that combo alone let's you steamroll

  • @manuelmanolo7099
    @manuelmanolo7099 3 года назад +378

    Timestamps:
    0:30 Aggregate (B) great since buff; synergizes well with Reboot
    2:49 All for One (B) with claws or snecko+Hologram infinte
    4:43 Amplify (B) Only with a bunch of rare powers
    6:24 Auto-Shields (D) Good in 1st Act; later unreliable
    7:59 Ball Lightning (S) Wins Act 1 and later as well with lots of orbs
    8:57 Barrage (S) Sucks early; Game-winning later(strength!)
    10:37 Beam Cell (C) Subpar
    11:44 Biased Cognition (S) Great in hallway fights
    13:01 Blizzard (D) Either Central to deck or bad
    13:24 Boot Sequence (B) Only get one
    15:04 Buffer (B) Meh
    16:05 Bullseye (A) Great early with dualcast and doesn't get worse
    18:17 Capacitor (A) Take in late for good synergies
    19:25 Chaos (D) Sucks due to randomness
    20:12 Charge Battery (S) Fucking great but don't take too many
    21:40 Chill (A) Lots of Synergies in late
    22:36 Claw (S++)
    23:25 Cold Snap (A) Great Early
    25:06 Compile Driver (S) Take lots in late game
    25:42 Consume (A)
    26:43 Cool Headed (S)
    27:00 Core Surge (S)
    27:31 Creative AI (D) Demon form of Defect (Bait)
    27:44 Darkness (A) Upgrade priority
    28:35 Defragment (S+) Great beta art
    28:52 Doom and Gloom (A)
    29:39 Double Energy (D) Useless unupgraded; only sometimes great
    31:04 Dual Cast (S) Bash of Defect; Don't take another one
    31:55 Echo Form (S+) duh
    32:20 Electro Dynamics (S) double duh
    32:24 Equilibrium (A) Only take one
    33:00 FTL (C) Meh
    34:02 Fission (B) can be good; UPGRADE!
    35:02 Force Field (B) Very good or very bad
    35:33 Fusion (D) Slows you down
    36:22 Genetic Algorithm (S) Even good taking in late mid game
    37:56 Glacier (A+) Overrated
    38:52 Go for the Eyes (B) Feels good
    39:22 Heatsinks (A-) Underrated
    40:18 Hello World (F) Terrible
    41:10 Hologram (S)
    31:35 Hyperbeam (B) Great in the 1%
    42:17 Leap (C) Nothing special but decent
    42:27 Loop (S)
    43:58 Machine Learning (B) Meh
    45:07 Melter (C) Niche
    46:39 Metero Strike (C) Either sucks or great
    47:17 Multi-Cast (C)
    47:56 Overclock (D) Really bad in long fights
    48:34 Rainbow (A-) Worse upgraded
    49:22 Reboot (B) Great synergy with Aggregate
    50:30 Rebound (C) Useful but not exciting
    51:34 Recursion (B) Upgradepriority; Synergy with dark orbs
    52:24 Recycle (A) Great Upgraded
    53:03 Reinforced Body (C) If your deck lacks defense
    53:59 Reprogram (C) Synergy: Prismatic Shard but bad
    55:00 Rip and Tear (B) Wins Act 1
    56:00 Scrape (F) Sucks
    55:51 Seek (S) No question
    56:46 Self Repair (A-) Noob trap
    58:04 Skim (A) The later the better
    58:35 Stack (C+)
    58:56 Static Discharge (A) Awesome but complicated
    59:53 Steam Barrier (B)
    1:00:28 Storm (B) Good upgrade
    1:01:30 Streamline (F) Only against Nob; Sucks
    1:02:15 Strike (F-)
    1:02:19 Sunder (D) Expensive and Clunky; Decent early
    1:04:06 Sweeping Beam (B) AOE, cycle but meh
    1:04:29 Turbo (A)
    1:0:10 Tempest (D) Awkward
    1:05:25 Thunder Strike (D) Clunky finisher
    1:06:27 White Noise (D) It can give you Hello World... (BAD!)
    1:06:53 Zap (D) Don't get another

    • @tranhuy6038
      @tranhuy6038 3 года назад +7

      Timestamp for reinforce body is wrong but goodjob nontheless

    • @TheStr0belight
      @TheStr0belight 3 года назад +5

      Thanks for doing this!

    • @manuelmanolo7099
      @manuelmanolo7099 3 года назад +5

      @@tranhuy6038 gotcha

    • @zomb_tron
      @zomb_tron 2 года назад +3

      Holy shit, great job man!

    • @manuelmanolo7099
      @manuelmanolo7099 2 года назад +3

      @@zomb_tron I was REALLY bored

  • @ninacochrane569
    @ninacochrane569 3 года назад +174

    I love creative AI.
    Is it good? Fuck no.
    Is it fun and can make or break? Absolutely.
    I think D tier is fair, but I still get hyped.

    • @Thalaranthey
      @Thalaranthey 2 года назад +10

      in some decks its pretty good. def not f tier. C i think. with that relic that makes card cost 0 after using power its s tier imo ;p

    • @m3myselfn1
      @m3myselfn1 2 года назад +9

      Nothing better than a creative AI when you're lacking an electrodynamics in a power deck to fix all your problems (except an electrodynamics, possibly)

    • @DiamondCake2
      @DiamondCake2 4 месяца назад

      I’ve had more fun trying to make claw work 😂

  • @TheFrostPrime
    @TheFrostPrime  3 года назад +282

    Oh you think "X" card should be higher or lower on the list? Good to hear you're wrong hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    • @rib6483
      @rib6483 3 года назад +4

      I think any card with “frost” in the text should be knocked down a tier frostpSip get fucked stinky

    • @scrotiemcb5858
      @scrotiemcb5858 3 года назад +7

      You clearly have Fusion wrong. The power of the Dark Side a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. And by Dark Side I mean a small deck with Fusion, and by unnatural I mean infinite.
      Have a plasma orb? Coolheaded+, Dualcast+, Recursion+ and Compile Driver - all commons or starter you're likely to have or get - equals infinite damage that can go through a 2 damage Beat of Death. (You don't necessarily need Fusion for this - Nuclear Battery can work too.) Can struggle with Heart due to statuses, unless you have Calipers or Med Kit.
      Have Skim, Dualcast+ and Hologram+ with a Fusion? Infinite Block (even though Beat of Death 1). Upgrade the Fusion to get infinite Energy for a Tempest infinite damage, or upgrade the Skim to get infinite redraw of an extra card every cycle for a Claw infinite damage. Or upgrade both Skim and Fusion and win with literally any damage dealing card, or get infinite Block through Beat of Death 2. (Recycle+ is highly recommended with Skim+ for resilience against Status cards.)
      I tend to play Defect a lot more combo-ey, with more than my share of small deck Claw builds, but when the Claws aren't showing Fusion is my alternative. Actually, it's more accurate to say Claw is my alternative to Fusion - I only need one Fusion to go infinite. I'd put Fusion ahead of Claw in Claw tier - so literally the best Defect card period. The only instance I'm not picking it is if I already have one.

    • @florescublogzbi2705
      @florescublogzbi2705 3 года назад +1

      The only one I don't agree on is cretive AI. My pp gets really big and cooky when I see it... I mean... it is true that I mostly won't take it because it would just be a wound. But when I do have a deck in which it works... oh boy does it carry the run. You have one echo form and then you play creative ai, which then gives you another echo form... and you now have 3 echo forms... dood... badonkers. A tier for me, just for the hornyness it provides. Thank you, have a nice day.

    • @Bongyes
      @Bongyes 2 года назад +2

      Pfft. And you call yourself a good StS player. There is no "X" Card! They all start with other letters!

  • @jaimetorrente7378
    @jaimetorrente7378 3 года назад +157

    My favorite thing about go for the eyes is using it to predict attacks whenever I grab the dome relic that hides enemies intentions. Has saved my life a couple times

    • @donovanfaust3227
      @donovanfaust3227 2 года назад +18

      Damn that's a decent strat that makes runic dome a little less scary to take sometimes. Never thought about using conditional cards like that to test the waters. I'll have to give that a try next time I get the chance.

    • @abhinandhari7812
      @abhinandhari7812 2 года назад +3

      That's actually big brian

    • @jdd881
      @jdd881 2 года назад +4

      Also, a lot of the time, you would want to weaken an enemy that's attacking this turn anyway.

    • @danieltereza2479
      @danieltereza2479 6 месяцев назад

      yes i had this specific run yesterday

  • @valorfarrell3030
    @valorfarrell3030 3 года назад +160

    I personally believe that overclock can be pretty epic for a number of reasons. It works really well in hallway fights, where you aren't going to cycle your deck as many times and draw into those burns. It also synergizes with all for one, so you can get more value out of those turbos you bring back into your hand. So while I'd only ever take one, I do think overclock deserves at least C tier, frostprime, you absolute cretin. Love the content, King Kong would win

    • @jonjones5092
      @jonjones5092 3 года назад +8

      It also speeds up your first deck cycle, which is all Defect wants in many cases. I don't take many of them but the first one is typically solid imo.

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 3 года назад +6

      I think Hyper beam is S-tier. AoE 34 damage for 1 mana is auto win hallway fights for entire game.

    • @abhinandhari7812
      @abhinandhari7812 2 года назад +6

      @@dodang_9147 isn't it 2 mana

  • @elim9054
    @elim9054 2 года назад +18

    Streamline isn't very good, but there's absolutely no universe in which it's worse than Scrape or Strike. It's pickable in act 1 when you need front-loaded damage, and you can play it multiple times even in short fights with stuff like Echo Form, Hologram, and Rebound.

  • @steamtasticvagabond474
    @steamtasticvagabond474 3 года назад +31

    Multi-Cast combos so well with Double Energy and a single darkness orb. Build up damage on the orb then multiply it by 10+ depending on the set up

  • @Kuddlesnot
    @Kuddlesnot 3 года назад +28

    Chill - "Yeah dude, I cant wait. Against 36 damage from the guardian, I cant wait to block for 2! *NFL theme*"
    I died. Watched that on repeat so many times. Then claw right after that. Gold. Thanks for the laughs, fp.

  • @cookies23z
    @cookies23z 2 года назад +18

    I think one of the reasons defect is my fav, aside from it being cute as hell, is that it has so many A and S tier commons

    • @tonycampbell1424
      @tonycampbell1424 2 месяца назад

      So, are you nonbinary or do you date a nonbinary person?
      Gotta' be one or the other.

  • @OfficialJab
    @OfficialJab 2 года назад +20

    If it's low in your draw pile, heatsink is usually just a card that says 'this card does nothing '. Same with storm. If heatsink is underrated than creative AI is, imo

    • @gizel4376
      @gizel4376 8 месяцев назад +1

      can be really good in power driven deck, if you got a few storm+, then you're just happy to play a 1 mana do nothing, just to channel 2-3 lightning

  • @lukasblur3500
    @lukasblur3500 2 года назад +17

    Sts general card tier list is impossible to make because card value changes with the overall deck.

  • @matti_xiii
    @matti_xiii 2 года назад +9

    Just watched this video and stopped about halfway through to play a round of Defect. Won my first Defect run. Thanks Frost.

    • @RussanoGreenstripe
      @RussanoGreenstripe Год назад

      I have noticed this danger w/ Frost's tier list videos; I watch them, and then by the time he gets to cards starting with C, I'm like "I should play some StS" and then I'm not actively listening anymore XD Not conducive to learning

  • @Nikolectric88
    @Nikolectric88 3 года назад +12

    I never picked barrage before this video. Just did my highest ascension run easily thanks to the advice in this video.
    Awesome work! Love it and can't wait for the other classes

  • @jamesboyack9736
    @jamesboyack9736 3 года назад +18

    Fission+ is probably the best card in the game for any class
    Definitely the best upgrade in the game

    • @rentalcustard
      @rentalcustard 3 года назад

      Wraith Form.

    • @mint6269
      @mint6269 2 года назад +2

      @@rentalcustard meh, i think it works with the silent because of how much the silent struggles with blocking at least compared to other characters

    • @plato7962
      @plato7962 2 года назад

      @@mint6269 don’t make sense

  • @grahamelliott9506
    @grahamelliott9506 3 года назад +5

    my new defect jam is barrage + pen nib , nice to also have a sweeping beam in the deck too
    if you can pull it off with akabeko (a little tricky with barrage as you need to get those orbs before your first attack) its also phenomenal ... but you can always wind up pen nib on a fight thats already over, or use defect's draw and defense to try and delay that first attack

  • @TheNecronmancer
    @TheNecronmancer 4 месяца назад +2

    I love Chaos cause upgrading it can evoke orbs and even basic, if you have upgraded Darkness, it can benefit, if you have Thunder Strike or Blizzard, it benefits. Also you have a chance of getting Plasma without using that 2 energy cost

  • @LicensedTaddus
    @LicensedTaddus 3 года назад +45

    yoo defect's the only class I've beaten A20 with, honestly most fun character in StS for me

    • @maggoteater2290
      @maggoteater2290 3 года назад +13

      Yeah if I had to rank I would say 1.defect
      2.Silent
      3.Ironclad/watcher

    • @arklethesparkle7819
      @arklethesparkle7819 3 года назад +1

      I see, a man with good taste

  • @thepengolem7850
    @thepengolem7850 3 года назад +14

    God- I wanted to take a SHORT lunch, Frost!

  • @godswatching2863
    @godswatching2863 2 года назад +3

    Echo form saved my life so many times. I would use echo form so many times and ways that were unique. Being able to play high damage exhausted cards twice or being able to put two glaciers out for the cost of one or using two focus cards can change the game. Sometimes I would Have three going on at once having a high draw and getting rid of the eternal would make it where I would have opportunities to play this card here and there and eventually once I had it it was almost a for sure win. Getting this card early on will kill you though you have to be able to wait till you have a high draw and extra energy to spare. Using echo form on buffer a couple times means you don't even have to worry about defense

    • @loganw7101
      @loganw7101 2 года назад

      On one of my runs I had 3 Echo forms. Echo the Echo.

  • @IAmebAdger
    @IAmebAdger 3 года назад +5

    Am I missing something about Scrape? Works well with Snecko Eye. It also feels like a good way to draw a bunch of Claws. Stack your draws with Rebound and scrape them back, then play your Claws again. Plus adding stuff to your discard pile can be a good thing if you have Holograms in hand. Plus when you get to a part where all that's left in your draw pile is garbage, you Hologram for a Scrape to clear it and get a reshuffle.
    Is it garbage in most decks that aren't Claw decks? Probably. But it's got a niche and surely things that have a niche don't belong in F tier.

    • @szelitzkyerick7456
      @szelitzkyerick7456 2 года назад +1

      Well "claw decks" whatever that might be, are garbage by default. Defect is at it's best having focus to scale your frost orbs for block and then dealing damage with lightning/dark orbs. Scrape is horrible in that type of seck.

    • @elim9054
      @elim9054 2 года назад

      "Scrape works well with Snecko Eye"
      ....huh???

    • @IAmebAdger
      @IAmebAdger 2 года назад +2

      @@elim9054 I think I was biased by a good run when I wrote that. Must have snecko'd some insane attack to cost 0 or something. Wouldn't count on that happening too much, I don't agree with using Snecko Eye and Scrape in general.

    • @WCIIIReiniger
      @WCIIIReiniger 2 года назад +5

      @@IAmebAdger I mean taking into consideration, that the average snecko eye deck is full of powerful high costs and on average each scrape gets you one zero cost card I would call that quite a good synergy.
      also the defect deck is full of good zero cost cards, claw is only one of them. I can see an "all for one", scrape and kunai deck totally flying to the roof. my current run is exactly that, although I do neither have "all for one" nor scrape, but both cards would make it take off even more.

  • @KateReadsBooks
    @KateReadsBooks 2 года назад +12

    I'm sorry- what's in his pocket?

  • @CaptainPudden
    @CaptainPudden 3 года назад +9

    I watched this. Twice. And youtube refuses to stop recommending it. RUclips is holding me hostage. Love the content, regardless.

  • @briandelvecchio3376
    @briandelvecchio3376 3 года назад +12

    I'm watching this now, and I'm kinda thinking Charge Battery might be low S tier.
    edit: I paused before the beta art lol

  • @aldrinvendt8524
    @aldrinvendt8524 2 года назад +7

    The "powers" deck is my absolute favorite deck to play in slay the spire. Get 1 or more storms, an upgrade heat sink, and a mummified hand, and you've got a party. especially it you bottle the heat sink. It's why I probably overrate white noise which under those conditions and upgrade is a 0 cost draw 2 channel 1 or more lightning, then make another card cost 0. just an overwhelming amount of value!

  • @loganw7101
    @loganw7101 2 года назад +4

    I remember on my very first ascension run I was grabbing back 7 cards with All For One. I didnt have sneko eye. FTL, Go For The Eyes, and more.

  • @johnsnow5305
    @johnsnow5305 Год назад +4

    I think you can negate the effect of hyper beam if you have an artifact. So if you already picked up that card that gives you an artifact, hyper beam might have no real downside in a lot of fights.

  • @MATTIEMMM
    @MATTIEMMM 3 года назад +9

    Could you do an artifact tier ranking? I'm new to the game and have been watching all your related videos. Thanks for all the helpful info!

  • @sugondesenuts69
    @sugondesenuts69 3 года назад +3

    That feel when the first time you ever beat the Act 3 boss with the Defect was with a bunch of D tier cards because you're a noob who got baited. Lol.
    Great vid, learned a lot.

  • @Noah-hz9cx
    @Noah-hz9cx 2 года назад +2

    I once did a hyperbeam deck. Iplayed Streamline with draw cards and hologram early game, then switched to hyperbeam in act 2 and looped them permanently. It was insane 😁

    • @jonathand.t.5051
      @jonathand.t.5051 2 года назад +1

      I got a Heart kill with a Hyperbeam-Claw deck lmao

  • @Kryptnyt
    @Kryptnyt 3 года назад +2

    I was excited for this one because of the plentitudes of good Side B art for the Defect

  • @jasonmelanconjm
    @jasonmelanconjm 2 года назад +4

    Thinking about a fusion sort of rework- I think costing 1 Mana but exhausting would make it a bit more playable

  • @elim9054
    @elim9054 Год назад +1

    It's almost never relevant in practice, but my favorite thing about recursion is that channeling lightning or frost with it increments thunderstrike or blizzard respectively.

  • @zerorequiem42
    @zerorequiem42 3 года назад +5

    Double energy is insane in the right decks. 22+ energy on turn one is a thing that it can do.

  • @trefferendebanane
    @trefferendebanane 3 года назад +9

    Finally the character I have the most fun with yet am the worst at

  • @chrisjett6232
    @chrisjett6232 2 года назад +1

    Another big plus for Compile Driver is some of the best Beta Art in the game

  • @LevelUpN00B
    @LevelUpN00B 3 года назад +6

    29:37 I am confusion

  • @SerialBull
    @SerialBull 3 года назад +3

    as the beta artist for dualcast im a little sad he skipped that one

    • @elim9054
      @elim9054 2 года назад +1

      It's a pretty good one

  • @ratoloko2206
    @ratoloko2206 Год назад +1

    Hi. I'm trying to get all trophies in this game and your content is so goooooood that i had to subscribe and watch every tier list. 🥰

  • @Shaso1000
    @Shaso1000 3 года назад +4

    I've been looking forward to this

  • @DeathEatsCurry
    @DeathEatsCurry Год назад

    Self-repair even when you can't block enough to make it efficient is still alright as a pseudo-block with power synergies.

  • @Jessie_Helms
    @Jessie_Helms 2 года назад +1

    My first thought on the thumbnail was “wait, the one that drains Focus is S tier??”
    And then he instantly disclaimed why

  • @karllaitamm1203
    @karllaitamm1203 2 года назад +2

    Cant wait for “rating every relic in STS” list

  • @GynxShinx
    @GynxShinx 2 года назад +3

    Amplify and Buffer+ in my power deck with mummified hand is the feeling of imortality until I make it to the heart.
    Fission is S btw.

  • @Kelarys
    @Kelarys 2 года назад +1

    I really can't believe you put All For One in B tier. I was expecting A Tier and then the way you talked it up made me think it was going in $ tier.

  • @aerialsnack
    @aerialsnack 3 года назад +3

    When are we going to have a tierlist tierlist?

  • @Green24152
    @Green24152 2 года назад +5

    These beta arts are golden. The MS Paint energy is strong with them.

  • @Sunless1337
    @Sunless1337 3 года назад +1

    I keep hitting seeds where I get Amplify in my first 3 hallway fight reward choices, when I have NO OTHER POWER CARDS. Feels like crap to take it as a dead card there.

  • @herebejamz
    @herebejamz 3 года назад +2

    Buffer would be S tier with retain. You can't change my mind.

  • @Benusr
    @Benusr Год назад

    Ironclad: Bash head into wall...
    Silence: Do several things to get around wall...
    Defect: Study wall, blow it up anyways...
    Watcher: About to take 25 damage from the wall; get angry at wall, take 50 damage from the wall. Die.
    Hermit: "See, I have gun."

  • @colinlynch6491
    @colinlynch6491 Год назад

    12:13 I took Wraith form years ago when I first started, I was doing an endless run with a thousand cuts and panacea. But this was og Wraith form, the rest of the deck was stuff that affective costed 0 and drew cards or emptied my hand for top, and I eventually killed them with the power triggers or a skewer for 15+ times

    • @sallomon2357
      @sallomon2357 10 месяцев назад

      How did the OG Wraith Form work?

    • @colinlynch6491
      @colinlynch6491 10 месяцев назад

      @sallomon2357 it was 3 to play and did 3 to a random enemy when you played a skill, 5 when upgraded.
      Its so much better now, i just really enjoyed it back then

  • @zebfross
    @zebfross Год назад

    I learned so much from this and just beat my first a19. So many cards I would normally take every time that would do absolutely nothing for me.

  • @coooolibri
    @coooolibri Год назад

    some of these are hard to evaluate in my opinion. like chill.
    you see it as only 2 blocks, but a channeled frost is worth
    much more than that. also you can combo it with capacitor,yes.
    but also when you dont obtain additional orb slots, you can take
    more advantage of evoking them - ergo more block. since most
    battles dont last too many turns anyways to stack up slots,
    and fill them up sometimes.

  • @Demonsmith42
    @Demonsmith42 3 года назад +1

    I'm gonna hear that sub notification in my nightmares

  • @alvarooverlay5405
    @alvarooverlay5405 3 года назад +2

    i want a beta art tier list, and double tap better be sss tier

  • @zendakon8299
    @zendakon8299 2 года назад

    I love how me and all of his chat is like "Buffer S Teir" and he's not even gonna look at the beta art

  • @somerandomgamer8504
    @somerandomgamer8504 3 года назад +1

    When I see Creative AI in D: *angry Power spam noises*

  • @RexCogitans
    @RexCogitans 3 месяца назад

    Heatsinks vs machine learning
    Imagine getting free draw after something you already want to do, play powers! Except now you have less energy to play those cards.
    Imagine drawing an extra card at the beginning of every turn... 😊

  • @IHappyDays
    @IHappyDays 3 года назад +2

    Hope we get a Relic tier list

  • @SilentlyWe
    @SilentlyWe Год назад

    White noise and creative AI have won me so many runs - creative AI alone is a win condition, with enough time, you'll get enough strong power cards to exponentially scale to beat the fight

  • @bupduppers2947
    @bupduppers2947 Год назад

    I don’t care what he says I love white noise, it will at minimum just give you a power for 1 energy, at most you get 2 free energy plus the effect of the power

  • @YourPetSnake
    @YourPetSnake 3 года назад +3

    CLAW IS LAW

  • @scottdorsch5149
    @scottdorsch5149 2 года назад +2

    Right after talking about auto shield you mention how echo form everyone loves. And that’s another reason to hate Auto Shield. It becomes very weak once you play echo.

  • @Dystopie173
    @Dystopie173 Год назад

    Weird. I felt like your tier list on the silent and the ironclad was pretty accurate and reasonably.
    However i seem to have to compeltely disagree on a lot of ranking choices on my favourite character defect.

  • @rydercalhoun4649
    @rydercalhoun4649 Год назад

    I’ve had a fight as the defect that lasted like 30 mins and it was just a regularly enemy btw it was my first defect run and the reason was I didn’t have enough damage to 3 shot a one of the enemy’s that had 60 health. Also another enemy healing the big tank back to full

  • @ballzz2thewall
    @ballzz2thewall 3 года назад +2

    How is strike above streamline? Math does not add up lol

  • @cookies23z
    @cookies23z 2 года назад

    ngl, ball lightning is S tier, I fucking love it, Ill take 4, I love the strike plus, its so fkn good
    glad to see you agreed

  • @Droid6689
    @Droid6689 2 года назад +1

    How is zap higher than tempest? It's literally a worse tempest

  • @TheMagicalOnionMan
    @TheMagicalOnionMan 3 года назад +2

    I'm just so confused about how boot sequence and amplify are in the same tier. Am I the only person for whom amplify is like D tier?

    • @Destrolll
      @Destrolll 2 года назад

      Yeah, imo amplify sucks much harder then double tap

  • @MsCunningLinguistic
    @MsCunningLinguistic 2 года назад +1

    This is my first ever Frost Prime video, can someone pls tell me what critter is in his pocket 😭

    • @elim9054
      @elim9054 2 года назад +1

      That's a sugar glider. I believe he has two of them now, he may have just had the one when this was recorded

  • @colossaldonut5190
    @colossaldonut5190 3 года назад +1

    Another day another victory for the claw gang.

  • @doorknocker8920
    @doorknocker8920 2 года назад

    @FP I love your videos dude 22:20 is why I subscribed

  • @alexanderdennis4276
    @alexanderdennis4276 7 месяцев назад +2

    I will forever disagree with where you placed melter. A card dog.

  • @vindex7309
    @vindex7309 2 года назад +1

    Boot sequence in itself is pog. There is absolutely no excuse to give it less than a tier. I would run boot sequence in a lot of decks and it’ll just make the deck better.
    edit: While creative ai is super niche, it is arguably the best of the noob trap cards. It opens up a secondary win condition that does nothing but good things for the defect no matter the build. The 3 cost is steep, but the defect had tools to make it viable (unlike ironclad).

    • @szelitzkyerick7456
      @szelitzkyerick7456 2 года назад

      Problem in, most difficult fights (act 4 elites and The Heart) don't attack you for that much turn 1, and arguably the act 3 bosses do not either (time eater the only one that can attack for like 32). So it kinda gets in the way in those fights. It's an anchor that draws you 1 less card on turn one, basically. If you have good card draw or a bottled seek, sure take it.

  • @mikerotch3158
    @mikerotch3158 11 месяцев назад

    And I always thought I'm stupid for not seeing any value whatsoever in Scrape.
    Up to this day, I never ever picked this card and I don't know what it's good for.

  • @joshreid1316
    @joshreid1316 Месяц назад

    I will consistently advocate for taking at least one Double Energy card and upgrading it. Instant A-Tier. Zero cost, doubles 3 base mana to 6. EZ Clap.

  • @gabrielmarkluckey392
    @gabrielmarkluckey392 2 года назад

    Watching this video helped me beat ascension lvl 9. Thanks!

  • @saphirepuma8244
    @saphirepuma8244 3 года назад +1

    Only found this video after seeing ur poll, fucking love it though

  • @EGH9701
    @EGH9701 2 месяца назад

    I just had a creative AI sneako eye run and that was so much fun, dupe endless powers and win.

  • @MorePowerToYah
    @MorePowerToYah 3 месяца назад

    My man did Chaos dirty. Chaos is cracked, easily A tier. The value, even if random, is just insane. 2 orbs of ANY type for 1 mana is value and the card will routinely evoke two things on top of that. I also find it funny that compile driver is in S tier (rightfully so) yet Chaos, which makes compile driver even more insane, is in D. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

    • @elim9054
      @elim9054 3 месяца назад

      Chaos+ is pretty solid. But Chaos- is dogwater, and Chaos+ honestly isn't even so good that I'm willing to pick a Chaos- and spend a fire on it unless I have almost no priority upgrades and am desperate for a card that fills my orb slots.

  • @robertvranjes8782
    @robertvranjes8782 3 года назад +1

    Ngl I just have the notifications on to know when it's dinner

  • @cogahan
    @cogahan 4 месяца назад

    Creative AI in D-Tier is outlandish

  • @grahamhill2277
    @grahamhill2277 2 года назад

    Lol did you sneak some Dragon Ball aura sound fx into the ball lightning part?

  • @honque3063
    @honque3063 3 года назад +2

    Relic tier list whan?

  • @b1zarr01
    @b1zarr01 3 года назад

    Some of my best runs have involved a couple of Storm+
    ...granted my idea of "best runs" includes managing to "make things interesting" with the Heart 🤔😣🤦‍♂️

  • @MaSeshield
    @MaSeshield 2 года назад

    Amplify the echo form or loops. Recursion upon recursion.

  • @treedude4246
    @treedude4246 3 года назад +1

    I legit have no idea how to play this robot

  • @landchannel7688
    @landchannel7688 2 года назад

    I like how he says "Biased kok"

  • @joeyd219
    @joeyd219 7 месяцев назад

    Storm + Tempest + Lightning Strike can be quite strong together.

  • @raysixx656
    @raysixx656 2 года назад +1

    Does reprogram that bad? The only two times I've beaten was with that card. As the dexterity and strength were increasing, I was able to block 40 of dmg with only two blocks, and my claws could deal 40. :c

    • @zachv183
      @zachv183 2 года назад

      It’s really niche and goes against what the Defect wants to do, but yeah if you can find a use for it then don’t pass it up

  • @elim9054
    @elim9054 Год назад

    I am happy to see Sunder any time between floor 1 and the last floor of the run that I can run into slavers. That happiness doubles if I have an upgrade to spend or a beam cell, and it triples if I have pyramid or snecko eye.

  • @Lavoye
    @Lavoye 2 года назад

    I think that Hello World would be funier if it gave you only 0 mana cards or cards that exhaust. Would make some cards better like One for all for exemple. Normal version, gives common only, upgraded, gives any rarity.

    • @WCIIIReiniger
      @WCIIIReiniger 2 года назад

      yes, but that would be too strong. honestly hello world is better that Frostprime thinks.
      he rates cards like machine learning low, because they need two turns to be great, but then he rates cards like hello world low because they may start to get bad after 5 turns. I am missing a bit unbiased reasoning in this video for some cards.
      still entertaining for the beta arts, though

  • @CharlieAndBergs
    @CharlieAndBergs Год назад

    Using this ranking as a general rule of thumb has made me a better player

  • @qb4428
    @qb4428 3 года назад +1

    Buffer saved me against knob, laga, giant head, transient, slime boss, hyperbeam, execute, collector, and the heart more times than I care to count. S tier.

  • @asdfghyter
    @asdfghyter 3 года назад

    Is the complete tierlist available somewhere so I can use it for reference?

  • @Kaladin07
    @Kaladin07 6 месяцев назад

    For me I'd say I'm most excited seeing Electro Dynamics, Echo Form and Turbo lmao. I think Turbo is such a busted card early and late

  • @andrewwdavvid
    @andrewwdavvid 3 месяца назад +1

    tfw scrape is one of your favorite cards

  • @crutchfield7231989
    @crutchfield7231989 3 года назад +1

    Hopefully he does one of these for relics

  • @Bird-md5xz
    @Bird-md5xz Год назад

    I won my first defect run today and Aggregate+ Single Handedly carried the run.