@@LowkeyDreadz SoundCloud flagged a DJ mix I'd posted (whenever I drop below 10min it is risky) however, despite the inferred warnings about trying to appeal for dj mixes, I decided that since I had video recorded of my performance I claimed my "Right Of Introduction" as a 'Performance Artist' in alignment with the UK & World IP Organisations' guidelines; I explained that I held performance licence & purchased download; the audio was streaming only & I could submit the video. To my amazement they Reinstated my Mix. This can only work for a PERFORMANCE... more than once per year per DSP may be tempting fate.
Man I’m going through the same thing especially with TikTok. At this point I haven’t been sampling anymore. Even when I play something I made up myself I get flagged. I posted my own video (taken down) smh it’s ridiculous
Not to mention Electronic Music, House & Drum n Bass use hook samples. That's without even thinking about the one-shot hit samples used to make Techno/Electro. This is all about "Control of Art" imo. It makes people nervous about releasing their Music independently, which will probably stop half from ever trying.
@@wormsali Same here.....I used to frequent the 'Who Sampled' site, in my case. Never tried the app though. And by the way.......bro, I see you everywhere on the socials. 😂💪🏾
Prince made the exact same complaint that Jermaine Dupri had about 20 years ago. Prince was upset that Sinead O'Connor was being celebrated for her cover of "Nothing Compares to You", with people saying that it was her song, when it was his song of course.
Yes, We shouldnt celebrate whitney houston cause dolly parton originally sang AND wrote i will always love you. Both you and prince are fucking idiots in this regard.
@@SrChalice spoken like a guy who backs corporations for the reason why public enemy doesn't use so much to make a point you're not slick, white boi so uncreative you gotta attack da blax!!1
Swear like someone chopping a sample with no effects is worth $50 and its not even unknown samples itll be popular songs too i lost a few songs because of this
That’s why I still dig in the crates. 😂. I was raised on the art form of sample manipulation. I feel bad for the new generation. Browsing online thru sample packs is crazy. You and ten thousand other people are using that same loop.
Sampling is for music what voyeurism or pornography is for sexuality. You cannot base your experience on other people's production. Instead of being passing waiting for real artist to write original songs to sample, you Betta play instruments and create yourself.
@@TheGroovezone I actually do both. I create samples from chores riffs and drum progressions. Both can be a creative tool. It’s not about waiting for someone to come along so I can be a parasite. Come on man. It’s a good argument but not good enough.
If this is true, then that artist who got sued should go and sue the company who sold him the sampled pack, that claimed that the samples were royalty free. That will definitely remedy this issue. I thank God, I was born with this talent, not something that I just picked up off the street as many do today.
in a lot of ways it is discouraging but I definitely see the opportunities. I play the piano, guitar, bass, and drums. I am going to start making royalty free sample packs of me playing for the community.
That strategy of uploading music to RUclips and then letting it sit unlisted works!!! I have been doing that method for years and it has saved me so much money and so many heartaches! It's the easiest way to find out whether or not your music has a sample in it that is uncleared or if other producers have used that same sample in the same way. It also works to track loops as well
What’s Crazy About That Is I Have A Beat On My Page With A Loop From Looperman In It. Longstory Short I Notice My Analystics Was Doing Numbers I Have Never Seen In My Underground Career Once So Ever 24k+ In Impressions Etc. Like Spotify Artist Apple Artist Etc YT Has RUclips Studio Tell Me Why I End Up Finding Another Producer Who Had The Loop In One Of Their Beat As Well. A Week Or 3 Later My Version Says It’s Copyrighted On My Page But Prior To Seeing The Other Producer’s Version It Never Said Copyrighted Under Mines Until Recently Me Being Honest My Version Is Much More Marketable And Radio/Album/Ep Ready Then The Other Dudes We Have Way Different Styles From One Another 😅But Nonetheless No One Has Contacted Me Either About It From The Loop Maker To That Other Producer I’m Starting To Think The Loopmaker Trying To Sell My Version Or Something Without Discussing My Percentage On Commission As The Composer If Thats The Case Honestly I Myself Personally Never Had The Beat Copyrighted. Most Of The Time It’s 50/50 W:L When You’re Not Buzzing And Going Viral Cause In Most Cases Us Low Tier “Not Quite Established In The Industry” And Still Works A Job Or Hustle Just Want An Upfront Amount Thats Worth Our Effort And Time We Took To Create It Unless We’re Talking Major Placement Opportunities That Money Is A Whole Lot Different From That Leasing/Exclusive Rights MunyuN 😂 Residuals ,Points ,Percentages Co-Producers Loop Makers etc.
One of the reasons the major corporations bought out so many catalogs of songwriters and producers, is because sampling is the way forward for the masses as they don't actually play instruments. They have cornered the money in the numbers game. If 10,000 fools slip up and sample from any music owned by these corporations, they will make hundreds of millions without having to sign anyone. A few will strike gold over the years and they will collect on the back end. The market is oversaturated anyway. Maybe this isn't the worst thing. We will see over time.
Artists are going to go the same route as dispensaries when they first became legal in NYC. You wasn’t able to sell a certain amount only “gifting” was available, sell a t shirt for $10 and “gift” the consumer the album to duck the record labels and samples
Giving music away doesn't protect you under copyright law. Copyright holders are less likely to go after you, but they still can (think of all those free game mods taken down by Nintendo and Disney).
Some may not want to hear this but investing in learning how to play an instrument would help alot… i can make my own samples in different genres then chop those up or play as is if i want to … may take you some time but it will be well worth it
Facts, I currently pay session artists to replay or interpolate different songs I wanna sample and get them to modify it to the point where I can chop it up and arrange it and it won't trigger a copywrite infringement while still keeping the feel of the sample that inspired me to begin with. I'm working on my keyboard skills now, that one skill set can open up doors and save me money in the long run and allow me to express myself more fully as an artist 🎨 🙌
From what it looked like is someone made a "sample pack" that the producer used assuming it was created strictly for royalty free sampling. Yet the distributer was being sleazy and used a pre-existing published song from the 80's. Not excusing the bad follow up when it comes to paperwork in business, it just seems this type of scam has gotten pretty prevalent recently. Ignorance and corporate bloodlust being at an all time high. The larger fear I have is that even people that do not sample at all have been getting hit with lawsuits over things such as song "vibes" being similar. Copywrite scanning has people slammed with waves of claims from the likes of UMG etc. Noodle on your guitar or playing some keys and hit a melody progression that songs have used before in any form? Nope! Claimed. You can keep the video up but we take all the revenue. If you want to complain and run a fade we will make sure you end up with a strike too. It's lunacy. There honestly has to be a better way. Copywriter needs to be easier and more streamline so EVERYONE can get their proper cut and make money. I like the concept of what Tracklib is doing on that end. I just hope it becomes more wide scale. I'd rather we all win then all lose to systems created by people not even involved in the music industry.
It’s over for talented artists. They own and control everything. Artists must realize there’s an investment interest in record companies and their goal is to capitalize on creativity.
Talent will always thrive. AI and sampling copyrights will not affect those who create music people want to hear. The more you sample or lean on other’s work, the more they will put the screws to you.
It is the era of education and tutoring to be an official music entrepreneur. Because going to the library and getting hearsay was a dizzy experience back in the day.
That's really cool. What site do you use to get in contact with musicians? I play multiple instruments, mainly the piano. I'm trying to get into marketing my talents. Or do you have your own studio they perform in?
8:43 same thing happened when Nas started “Oochie Wally” with “I got some freaks in the living room gittin it on, and/they ain’t leaving til -“ yeah. You can’t restate bars of another song. That’s interpolation. You don’t have to clear it, but you WILL owe interpolation royalties. #StudiedMusicLaw
The boat that people repeatedly miss with the Truefuego story is that they reached out to him MULTIPLE times and he DID NOT respond. For those trying to clear samples, if you at least have a PRO search the database to see which publisher you have to contact to clear it. Send them an email. They will eventually respond, you will be given an amount of money it may cost or a range and have to share information about your song as well as an audio file. You will be given warnings about what you can and can't do with the song going forward. ALWAYS assume the beatmaker/producer didn't clear the sample first and search the PDF of your lease to see if anyone else is credited in the samples used area. Make sure your distributor is using soundscan technology to check for samples and to clear whatever you're releasing first. Ours will tell us every time a sample was used and if another artist or composer was involved and what licensing we need to provide them with to go further. Situations like this stem from a lack of due diligence, not dotting i's or crossing t's. If you want to be in the business then learn the business. Learn what you need to do to make money off it or release it legally. ~J. Bunny
Here’s the thing, did the sample pack company get rights to sell those samples? If not, then it’s on the sample pack company. the thing is, I see people online sampling stuff from commercial music that is copyrighted all of the time. the thing is, without the express written consent and contract with the Artist… It is copyright infringement. whoever owns the rights to that music, is the owner of every beat and every note played and word sung. Whether it be a five or 10 second sample or the entirety of the song… It is still copywritten. Now, in this situation… Where the sample came from a collection that I’m guessing he bought… Then the express written agreement may or may not include commercial replication of those samples. Unless the company who makes the samples has an agreement with the artist who originally wrote the song those samples came from. But again, it would have to allow for those who use the samples to be able to do so in a commercial fashion. Meaning, if their song goes to number one on the charts there would be nothing that Artist could do to sue anybody who uses them. Again, only if there was a clause in the contract that gave anybody who used the samples, the right to use them in a commercial fashion. That’s where it gets sticky. All of this falls on the company who released those samples, but also on the bi-laws that the artist who used those samples agreed to when they bought them. Meaning that there is always fine print that states how the samples can be used. That you agree to when you purchase them. Which is a situation for anybody who uses samples or makes them. Because if you do not have permission from the copyright holders to use the samples, they can sue you. Which they will probably not do unless your song rises up the charts or goes viral like this one did. you have to understand, that artists don’t make that much money from the music anymore. They make it from touring. so, if somebody uses a sample from their music that ends up making that person who used the sample money… then, the artist who wrote the music originally is entitled to a cut. Unless there was an agreement beforehand.
Well said bruh. Curtis should have covered the responsibility of the sample pack company in this law suit. Like, can Trefuego sue them for not making it clear that the sample pack includes samples from signed artist. I think Tre may have a case, depending on what you highlighted.
Morally, it should be on the sample company. Legally, it's not; it's on you because you made and released the music, and you can't point a finger at someone else. Maybe they get in trouble too, but it won't save you. Doesn't matter if there was a T & C supplied with the samples or not.
People are too lazy and greedy like there is no reason to clear a sample with all the ways to get around it it may be slower but I can guarantee it you are gonna eat
For Real - The same thing happened with DJ mixing. I've experienced situations & people where they think DJ mixing by default infringes theirs or other's rights! 🤷🏻♀️
the roots is hiphop too & they don't sample, obviously u don't know what hiphop is if u think samplin is what makes it hiphop... same way rappin over a beat doesn't make it hiphop
@GriffinPoole I agree the roots are hip hop if you don't know what about sampling makes you hip hop dig deeper. But listen to any of the pioneers when they talk sampling they all say "this is hip hop we gonna sample" from Preem to Pete Rock to DJ Quik. But yes The Roots too are hip hop and they don't sample.
@@FonkedUpProductions I agree my last album was hip hop and I played all the music myself play my own instruments and creating loops by breaking up things I play into 5 second segments
@@FonkedUpProductions ur basically sayin ur hiphop becuz u sample, there's a BIG difference between u & the pioneers of hiphop... and the 3 ppl u named are all innovators - they've all created a sound all their own & ppl love it , that's what makes em special... do u even know what the fundamentals of hiphop are???
@GriffinPoole again, if you don't know what about sampling makes you hip hop dig deeper. You cannot sample and be equally be hip hop and it'll be for the same reason. I know hip hop in and out, do you? And I'm not just talking about rappers, I know hip hop.
Speaking from experience, it does slightly fall on an artist to clear samples they use, regardless if they used samples from royalty-free packs like Splice. As a Sound Designer, I always have to confirm clearance when I’m selling packs to clients it’s standard practice. This happens when people try to pass off other’s catalogs as their own and over saturate the market. I’m confused why this is Sonys problem? How did the sample align with a project of theirs? Where’s that thread?
GREAT VIDEO Curtis!! I just realized why Sony was refusing to clear a sample watching this video. You mentioned a workaround to get samples cleared through different websites. Can you hit me up with some links please?
That's why in the old school, we chopped ANY sample, and changed the frequencies. Just cause they SAY it's cool doesn't mean it WILL be cool once the money comes in. It's the music business, you can't trust anyone If you can't prove it's the same sample, can't sue & win!
@@jsun7972 how would they know for sure? Again, if they can’t prove it’s the same sample they can’t win the case The issue is people want to just loop samples in 2024 like it’s still new when they need to be creative. Looped samples been dead, I don’t respect a producer who just loops samples with drum beats over them like we’re living in 1988
@@jsun7972😂😂😂😂😂 💯 man all the videos I seen breaking down old songs from the 2000s using samples but you won’t even notice it in the actual beat if it wasn’t for that RUclips video explaining it
Lander does what you're talking about as far as checking the songs for samples. I get flagged every now and then, but that's also one of the reasons why I use Landers sample pack and distribution together to streamline that process and save time and energy
The general rule is, is it’s up to the artist or artists label you sell/give your beat to to clear the sample for release. As a producer/beat maker you don’t need to clear anything really. Especially if you’re giving it away for free online.
6:58 lol @ “damages to Sony” as if some dude uploading a song with an uncleared sample would really effect Sony in any way. They’d still be operating with or without this situation.
Stick to Kontakt VSTs I suppose? Another question I got is where does content ID fall in and would the algorithm give false positives for similar sounds?
That's crazy. That's why i sample myself from old songs that i did. Im from Texas so on my screwed and chopped hooks or bridges i just sample myself and screw and chop it for a new song if need be. People think it's samples from other Texas artist but it's all me. And i will always sample myself. Looks like i been a step ahead for a while now.
A good tip for seeing if Ai will pick the sample up is to shazam it once youve flipped it! Done this a few times and seems to work well - Heard this from another producer so thought I'd try too
That’s why you gotta chop samples into bits and change the pitch. Make it different than the original. A lot of people always loop samples in their beats and the samples can get recognized. I always stay away from looping.
I don’t agree with Dupree too much cause the industry he spearheaded has screwed over so many artist and the “business” he wants to go back to has never been fair
Bro, I understand. But keep in mind it already happened to traditional painting artist like my self, and I can still paint, maybe not as well as when I was young but I actually do have paintings on my easels. But I get the same feeling from mastering a well constructed prompt for A.I. to create what is in my imagination in seconds. And I can easily have that picture put on canvas and garments. So let's please do as you said and use A.I. to create some of the tunes that previously took us days to produce and use it as samples, I still have to add to it in my DAW anyway. A.I. is the new tool for creative people accept it. It will be here longer than us anyway. Much love Curtis, thanks for all of the lessons.
Bro this shit is insane as an DIY. The only reason i dont quit is cause i was born like this. This shit sucks more and more daily fr. Just venting. Just venting.
10:08 I think it's a concerted effort to keep labels relevant moving forward. Besides greed, if you could get an indie artist to be afraid of the "scary" process that is navigating the music business, then it continues the allure of the lucrative major label deal in the mind of the indie who couldn't be bothered with the behind the scenes
@@2xMintwhat they are saying I’m pretty sure is like more than HALF of top hits (billboard hits makifn money selling tickets type of artist) are sampled based these days
Having a detection system for distrokid would be cool. Before you upload any song you have to check a mandatory box saying you own and have the permission to sell and collect royalties for the track. If you dont, dont check the box and upload
Thank god I make my own beats I do like samples tho how to you manage to make money with no streaming is it like creating your own platform or just selling it direct mp3
I’m a engineer and mix and mastering engineer at Sony yes it’s true but only if the song blow up so you have time to get it clear but when it blow up it’s too late
Just read MBW article - homie didn't get charged because of using the sample, he got charged for not answering the complaint. He had a defense, he just didn't show up to tell on DistroKid.
15:51 my answer: he’s just the newest old guy making the same “old guy” argument in a new era. Old people said the same thing about sampling in the late eighties. “That’s not music!” Or drum machines before that “that’s not real drums” or synthesizer workstations “that’s a toy”, or auto tune “that’s not real music”. The idea is “why does it get to be easier for ‘kids today’? Why, back in MY day, you made a piano out a old shoe! And you had to wear the other one to walk to school up hill both ways even in the summer, and in the summer you had to build the school outta coal and sl*very tears!” Tech makes things easier. But people forget: it also advances expectation. So yes, I now have serviceable emulations of vintage gear which would’ve cost millions of dollars in hardware just 20 years ago. This phone in my hand is 10’s of times more powerful than the custom build I had made when I was a college senior in 97 for three thousand bucks from a summer CBC internship, so imagine what can be had today from a custom build? In 97, you could send in a demo tape that sounded like it was recorded in someone’s A$$, and get offered a deal. Try that now. Since Izotope and Slate and Maschine are assessable to legit anyone, if your 💩 don’t sound like Bernie Grundman and Dr. Dre and QUIK is your blood uncles that owe you a blood debt, and you don’t already have 5 million followers, you not getting to that A list artist level if such a level even exists anymore. Hand em an unsolicited demo cassette made the old fashioned way. SINCE tech makes it easier to do more, you’re EXPECTED to do at least that. AT LEAST. to sign the next Kendrick, you have to show up already BETTER than Kendrick, since the tech is already there. To your point from a previous vid tho? Now you have to sound as good as a K. Dot, but UNIQUE, since you can just ai prompt you something hella K. Dot via a website. However, gone are the days of sample digging. The dudes who be finding the most obscure breaks and loops in thrift stores in overseas non-tourist destinations? That’s done. With Synthplant or whatever, I can take one kick and make a ton of similar ones, layer em, round robin them, and have “sampled” boom bap drums sourced from thin air. Same with some new synth I just heard of that does the same thing with tones. You can reverse engineer synths after you done stemmed it out. So now, everyone can have access to everything imaginable. It’s back to the dopest records being conjured from within, not sample packs or from actual samples. You basically now aren’t tasked with knowing music theory, but you ARE tasked with sampling the library of your own imagination. Oh what must the truth behold from there?
@@OZKitchen Sampling and micro chopping is composing and if you don't think that you know nothing about music mate. I play piano and bass and still choose to sample because of how much i love the art form of sample manipulation. 9th Wonder and other sample based producers run university courses and have spoken at oxford union about sampling.
Most of the time, if the producer plays their cards right, will include in the contract that any samples that need to be cleared is the sole responsibility of the artist who buys the beat. However, when the producer don't even know that it needs to be cleared...that's when it gets f'd up fr..smh
Excellent commentary bro King. The way that they’re trying to do us as independents feels mighty Skynet like. Can’t get with the AI music apps, definitely prefer that human touch when it comes to the music. Great work as always. Peace!
That’s exactly why I don’t use samples or purchase beats and that’s why I copyright all of my music. I don’t need midi packs or beat packs. I create my own from scratch since 2008
I'm a up coming beat maker. Although I make my original made beats but every once in a while I do sample....Sampling is part of the hip hop culture ...I don't see it like stealing. I see it like we showing musical apprecriation to the greats before us ...I do Boom Bap heavy East Coast beats. Know that alone I like to chop sounds add my bass, add a little reverb....then add my scratches, my chopped samples...then take my EQ to clean out the sample & my drums. Last thing I do is master the whole project...put on a dat & whaalaah we got a beat done. I think the industry using artist for sampling is buggin'. If they trying to go after rap artist that sample....then what about when R&B uses samples? What about pop music uses sampling ? Even house , rock n roll, & gospel sample music. My advice to any up coming artist that want to use a sample sound....just make sure you clear it with the original artist or band. You don't want to be caught up in legal situation. Again, pay for your samples the right way & you'll be aight..... 🎹🎧🎤🎸🎹🎧🎤🎸
But yet most the older artist from the 90s sampled every Marvin Gaye/ Isley brothers shaka khanand Aretha Franklin but my generation is getting shit on because we sample . Wasn’t hip hop created off sampling
I'm an early adopter to AI. Great servant but terrible Master. It's not about the magic wand it's magician who makes it happen. The novelty affect the average user may have fun with and make something they like. But the dope stuff will still come from those who put in the work to make it fly. Ai can only emulate swag it can't make it. It's those who are creative that can take these tools and create something next level. Mid Wil be mid and that fire stays lit when that work is put in. And when I say work I'm not excluding ones imagination. Someone may not have the ability to play but they have a lot of dope sh*t they hear in their minds ear. It's all about figuring out what recipe is best for what you gonna serve. Peace!
I was reading "All you need to know about the music business" and, indeed, as you said, they dont go hard on producers or distributors. For example, producers sometimes take 3 points of the master, and, artists gotta make an initial payment for producing the song. Then, artists gotta recoup their 3 percent before earning something.
Normally labels try to work somethings out with artist before it reach the point of a law suit. I wonder if there is more to the story. I would guess there is.
I grew up in a small town with few other artists, I've created other artists and just changed my voice in the past, once ai came into the picture I started making music AS other artists like "Renlato'" and "Saint CNG" that sounded better doing different styles. recently checked out Udio and have been utilizing it in some very creative ways. its very powerful and I don't wanna get left behind so ima try to use it as much to my advantage as I can.
Hip hop has been litigious since day one. Rappers Delight had stolen prodution from "Good Times" by Chic. The songwriters Nile Ridger and Bernard Edwards threatened to sue and ended up getting writing credit. At this point its a 45 yr old tradition.
Sampling has always been fun and lots of really cool creative decisions have been made regarding it. That said, it’s always been a really lazy way to make a beat. It’s a whole lot easier than learning how music works to the point where you can establish whatever vibe you’re looking for on your own terms, but it comes at a serious cost. And I’m not even talking law/money. In my opinion, sample packs are for people pretending to produce.
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Sound is everywhere and it's free we cant be letting these record companies do us like this, I went to the park a while back and there was a guy genuinely sampling the metal gate because it sounded like a horn, everyone knows about the street drummers on pots and pans, All power to people using sample packs if they want to but literally EVERYTHING makes a sound, sound is everywhere like the air we breathe. I'm composing for a videogame, sampled a chef in a restaurant making a ghost noise, don't have to worry about other people using that from a sample pack, it's amazing what you can achieve just going out into the world with a microphone. If the industry is gonna try and move one way, we need to move another really.
Sadly, i can see pettiness like this increasing..especially if more artist start going the direct to consumer route. They’re gonna try to find a way to get in our pockets. Disgusting
This is just another sign between this and the streaming wars, social media wars, former big media execs working in youtube etc... that the internet transition into television 2.0 is near completion, and with all the red tape, hurdles and broadcast consolidation that comes with mainstream media.
@@TheAzurefang if its from an actual royalty free pack they bought a license from a reputable source that should be fine. Consent is established If they lifted straight from copyrighted record w/o licensing and didnt clear it, thats when it can be issue. Or if maker of sample pack just chopped up copyrighted material and deceptively resold as royalty free.
I loved your expose on her. As young boy it goes without saying I was captivated by her beauty. I hate that the industry and life chewed up and spit out another one!💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
I mean this in the nicest way- and I mean no disrespect to any party here but the hip hop commmunity is pretty behind with getting behind sound design and getting familiar with the renaissance of sampling- resampling. You don’t need to be a sound design wizard, but especially now with ai and insane sample pack controversy, it’s a push to raise the standard and learn to mangle. Learn to mess around with a synth or fiddle with recordings and make your own stuff. You’ll be happier with coming up with new ideas you’d never imagine making in the first place. I’m not here to tell you how to make music but give you solution on how to avoid this problem.
Curtis, this has to STOP! The entertainment industry is all about sharing a piece of the pie. Artists keep crying 😢 over this and that, but the labels, distributors, and production companies and streaming services all are putting out energy to move things forward. The indie or signed artist keep it all is NOT right either. Let's open our eyes. Share, share, share the wealth, and We all WIN. #sidowsobrino
i been knowing this this is good news its alot of yotubers making beats an using samples i bought a beat an i used it an it said iwas stealing a old song youtube will also flagg yo music bout it but still lets you use it
There are a ton of affordable sample clearance and leasing routes nowadays. No need to get sued and if you lease and do paperwork for the lease. Then the liability routes that way
They can take 90% of my blow up song if it makes me solidified in the industry, now I'm in game and I move smarter on the next songs. Y'all gotta play the game smarter. Don't be afraid to pay your dues bro
I compose all of my melodies, and drum patterns myself, but I use drum sample packs from Reddit to compose my own original drum loops. Are the labels likely to sue for that too?
I got flagged on FB just practicing piano playing MY OWN STUFF.
This shit is getting crazy. You can't even try to be original without dealing with BS.
Same here play a Curtis Mayfield Bass riff
Same.. but guitar
I posted a song with a beat I made, canceled the audio & kept the video up smh
@@LowkeyDreadz SoundCloud flagged a DJ mix I'd posted (whenever I drop below 10min it is risky) however, despite the inferred warnings about trying to appeal for dj mixes, I decided that since I had video recorded of my performance I claimed my "Right Of Introduction" as a 'Performance Artist' in alignment with the UK & World IP Organisations' guidelines; I explained that I held performance licence & purchased download; the audio was streaming only & I could submit the video. To my amazement they Reinstated my Mix. This can only work for a PERFORMANCE... more than once per year per DSP may be tempting fate.
Man I’m going through the same thing especially with TikTok. At this point I haven’t been sampling anymore. Even when I play something I made up myself I get flagged. I posted my own video (taken down) smh it’s ridiculous
HipHop ain’t HipHop without sampling it’s the original recipe
Respectfully.
Not to mention Electronic Music, House & Drum n Bass use hook samples. That's without even thinking about the one-shot hit samples used to make Techno/Electro.
This is all about "Control of Art" imo. It makes people nervous about releasing their Music independently, which will probably stop half from ever trying.
@@theybeonbody1309 Troi Torain, is that you?
That's why I don't respect hip hop, especially if it's samples. Sampling is stealing and unoriginal. Go write your own music, it's not hard.
@@SrChalice let me guess you’re white lol white trap producer let me guess
Gotta Shazam your samples before using them producers
Good idea. Never thought about that 🤔
Exactly it takes like 5 seconds
of cause ! or better: make your own ,with hardware
Yup. Or the Who Sampled app
@@wormsali Same here.....I used to frequent the 'Who Sampled' site, in my case. Never tried the app though.
And by the way.......bro, I see you everywhere on the socials. 😂💪🏾
Prince made the exact same complaint that Jermaine Dupri had about 20 years ago. Prince was upset that Sinead O'Connor was being celebrated for her cover of "Nothing Compares to You", with people saying that it was her song, when it was his song of course.
Yes, We shouldnt celebrate whitney houston cause dolly parton originally sang AND wrote i will always love you. Both you and prince are fucking idiots in this regard.
I miss Prince 😢
I've always hated sampling. It's theft and because it's ripe in hip hop it's accepted. I don't back corporations, but sampling is theft.
@@SrChalice spoken like a guy who backs corporations for the reason why public enemy doesn't use so much to make a point
you're not slick, white boi
so uncreative you gotta attack da blax!!1
@@SrChalice Sampling isn’t theft. Stealing samples is theft.
I see so many people selling packs of chopped soul samples from old records. It’s insane😂
Swear like someone chopping a sample with no effects is worth $50 and its not even unknown samples itll be popular songs too i lost a few songs because of this
Bro they dont even name the records they sample from in the packs smh
🤦🏽♂️ fam them doing that is like stealing a bag of Doritos, crushing the bag, and then selling the crumbs as your own Cheese Dust
@@CurtissKingTV 😂😂😂
@@CurtissKingTV Fax😂
That’s why I still dig in the crates. 😂. I was raised on the art form of sample manipulation. I feel bad for the new generation. Browsing online thru sample packs is crazy. You and ten thousand other people are using that same loop.
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Facts
Or just make your melody from scratch lol
Sampling is for music what voyeurism or pornography is for sexuality.
You cannot base your experience on other people's production. Instead of being passing waiting for real artist to write original songs to sample, you Betta play instruments and create yourself.
@@TheGroovezone I actually do both. I create samples from chores riffs and drum progressions. Both can be a creative tool. It’s not about waiting for someone to come along so I can be a parasite. Come on man. It’s a good argument but not good enough.
If this is true, then that artist who got sued should go and sue the company who sold him the sampled pack, that claimed that the samples were royalty free. That will definitely remedy this issue. I thank God, I was born with this talent, not something that I just picked up off the street as many do today.
in a lot of ways it is discouraging but I definitely see the opportunities. I play the piano, guitar, bass, and drums. I am going to start making royalty free sample packs of me playing for the community.
Until they hit you for a track that has something that sounds like it was from an existing copyrighted track. That's how it's going.
please
That strategy of uploading music to RUclips and then letting it sit unlisted works!!! I have been doing that method for years and it has saved me so much money and so many heartaches! It's the easiest way to find out whether or not your music has a sample in it that is uncleared or if other producers have used that same sample in the same way. It also works to track loops as well
Can you explain more about this?
@@ChelseaMonet i think he meant to do a kind of 'try first' to see if flaps
This is some great advice so basically what he saying is let it sit and see if you pick up any type of copyright
@@ChelseaMonethe means let RUclips find the copyright if it has any
What’s Crazy About That Is I Have A Beat On My Page With A Loop From Looperman In It. Longstory Short I Notice My Analystics Was Doing Numbers I Have Never Seen In My Underground Career Once So Ever 24k+ In Impressions Etc. Like Spotify Artist Apple Artist Etc YT Has RUclips Studio Tell Me Why I End Up Finding Another Producer Who Had The Loop In One Of Their Beat As Well. A Week Or 3 Later My Version Says It’s Copyrighted On My Page But Prior To Seeing The Other Producer’s Version It Never Said Copyrighted Under Mines Until Recently Me Being Honest My Version Is Much More Marketable And Radio/Album/Ep Ready Then The Other Dudes We Have Way Different Styles From One Another 😅But Nonetheless No One Has Contacted Me Either About It From The Loop Maker To That Other Producer I’m Starting To Think The Loopmaker Trying To Sell My Version Or Something Without Discussing My Percentage On Commission As The Composer If Thats The Case Honestly I Myself Personally Never Had The Beat Copyrighted. Most Of The Time It’s 50/50 W:L When You’re Not Buzzing And Going Viral Cause In Most Cases Us Low Tier “Not Quite Established In The Industry” And Still Works A Job Or Hustle Just Want An Upfront Amount Thats Worth Our Effort And Time We Took To Create It Unless We’re Talking Major Placement Opportunities That Money Is A Whole Lot Different From That Leasing/Exclusive Rights MunyuN 😂 Residuals ,Points ,Percentages Co-Producers Loop Makers etc.
One of the reasons the major corporations bought out so many catalogs of songwriters and producers, is because sampling is the way forward for the masses as they don't actually play instruments.
They have cornered the money in the numbers game. If 10,000 fools slip up and sample from any music owned by these corporations, they will make hundreds of millions without having to sign anyone. A few will strike gold over the years and they will collect on the back end.
The market is oversaturated anyway. Maybe this isn't the worst thing. We will see over time.
Artists are going to go the same route as dispensaries when they first became legal in NYC. You wasn’t able to sell a certain amount only “gifting” was available, sell a t shirt for $10 and “gift” the consumer the album to duck the record labels and samples
That's all they gotta do they getting to lazy and greedy I will never clear a sample there are too many ways to get around it
this isnt true - while its unlikely to attact attention, they can still technically sue
Giving music away doesn't protect you under copyright law. Copyright holders are less likely to go after you, but they still can (think of all those free game mods taken down by Nintendo and Disney).
Like making people buy Coupons to redeem for Beer at an Engagement, to avoid "Licensing", etc.
That’s why I sample like flying lotus. Research, Rebuild, deconstruct, reverse, re-pitch X10 to create something noones ever heard.
if they sue you,your in the good way,use all the samples guys,, get sued,, thats how you grow,
Exactly
Some may not want to hear this but investing in learning how to play an instrument would help alot… i can make my own samples in different genres then chop those up or play as is if i want to … may take you some time but it will be well worth it
Facts, I currently pay session artists to replay or interpolate different songs I wanna sample and get them to modify it to the point where I can chop it up and arrange it and it won't trigger a copywrite infringement while still keeping the feel of the sample that inspired me to begin with. I'm working on my keyboard skills now, that one skill set can open up doors and save me money in the long run and allow me to express myself more fully as an artist 🎨 🙌
Absolutely! I couldn't agree with you more. Learn to create your own music instead of depending on sampling from others.
sample culture vs. taking samples and selling shit. 2 different worlds.
From what it looked like is someone made a "sample pack" that the producer used assuming it was created strictly for royalty free sampling. Yet the distributer was being sleazy and used a pre-existing published song from the 80's. Not excusing the bad follow up when it comes to paperwork in business, it just seems this type of scam has gotten pretty prevalent recently. Ignorance and corporate bloodlust being at an all time high.
The larger fear I have is that even people that do not sample at all have been getting hit with lawsuits over things such as song "vibes" being similar. Copywrite scanning has people slammed with waves of claims from the likes of UMG etc. Noodle on your guitar or playing some keys and hit a melody progression that songs have used before in any form? Nope! Claimed. You can keep the video up but we take all the revenue. If you want to complain and run a fade we will make sure you end up with a strike too. It's lunacy.
There honestly has to be a better way. Copywriter needs to be easier and more streamline so EVERYONE can get their proper cut and make money. I like the concept of what Tracklib is doing on that end. I just hope it becomes more wide scale. I'd rather we all win then all lose to systems created by people not even involved in the music industry.
It’s over for talented artists. They own and control everything.
Artists must realize there’s an investment interest in record companies and their goal is to capitalize on creativity.
Talent will always thrive. AI and sampling copyrights will not affect those who create music people want to hear. The more you sample or lean on other’s work, the more they will put the screws to you.
It is the era of education and tutoring to be an official music entrepreneur. Because going to the library and getting hearsay was a dizzy experience back in the day.
f the industry
I'm finna keep sampling till I become a legend
That's why I only use session musicians to play my melodies or pay them to play random stuff that I can chop and restructure into something dope.
Best comment so far 🤟🔥👍
That's really cool. What site do you use to get in contact with musicians? I play multiple instruments, mainly the piano. I'm trying to get into marketing my talents.
Or do you have your own studio they perform in?
8:43 same thing happened when Nas started “Oochie Wally” with “I got some freaks in the living room gittin it on, and/they ain’t leaving til -“ yeah. You can’t restate bars of another song. That’s interpolation. You don’t have to clear it, but you WILL owe interpolation royalties. #StudiedMusicLaw
Nahhh yo, that Pound Town Soul snippet is DEVIOUS on another level, foul nasty work 🫨
Yall better either wise up and chop to the point where its inrecognisable or stop sampling. They coming for any and everyone.
The boat that people repeatedly miss with the Truefuego story is that they reached out to him MULTIPLE times and he DID NOT respond. For those trying to clear samples, if you at least have a PRO search the database to see which publisher you have to contact to clear it. Send them an email. They will eventually respond, you will be given an amount of money it may cost or a range and have to share information about your song as well as an audio file. You will be given warnings about what you can and can't do with the song going forward. ALWAYS assume the beatmaker/producer didn't clear the sample first and search the PDF of your lease to see if anyone else is credited in the samples used area. Make sure your distributor is using soundscan technology to check for samples and to clear whatever you're releasing first. Ours will tell us every time a sample was used and if another artist or composer was involved and what licensing we need to provide them with to go further. Situations like this stem from a lack of due diligence, not dotting i's or crossing t's. If you want to be in the business then learn the business. Learn what you need to do to make money off it or release it legally. ~J. Bunny
Here’s the thing, did the sample pack company get rights to sell those samples? If not, then it’s on the sample pack company. the thing is, I see people online sampling stuff from commercial music that is copyrighted all of the time. the thing is, without the express written consent and contract with the Artist… It is copyright infringement. whoever owns the rights to that music, is the owner of every beat and every note played and word sung.
Whether it be a five or 10 second sample or the entirety of the song… It is still copywritten. Now, in this situation… Where the sample came from a collection that I’m guessing he bought… Then the express written agreement may or may not include commercial replication of those samples. Unless the company who makes the samples has an agreement with the artist who originally wrote the song those samples came from. But again, it would have to allow for those who use the samples to be able to do so in a commercial fashion.
Meaning, if their song goes to number one on the charts there would be nothing that Artist could do to sue anybody who uses them. Again, only if there was a clause in the contract that gave anybody who used the samples, the right to use them in a commercial fashion. That’s where it gets sticky. All of this falls on the company who released those samples, but also on the bi-laws that the artist who used those samples agreed to when they bought them. Meaning that there is always fine print that states how the samples can be used. That you agree to when you purchase them.
Which is a situation for anybody who uses samples or makes them. Because if you do not have permission from the copyright holders to use the samples, they can sue you. Which they will probably not do unless your song rises up the charts or goes viral like this one did. you have to understand, that artists don’t make that much money from the music anymore. They make it from touring. so, if somebody uses a sample from their music that ends up making that person who used the sample money… then, the artist who wrote the music originally is entitled to a cut. Unless there was an agreement beforehand.
Well said bruh. Curtis should have covered the responsibility of the sample pack company in this law suit. Like, can Trefuego sue them for not making it clear that the sample pack includes samples from signed artist. I think Tre may have a case, depending on what you highlighted.
Morally, it should be on the sample company. Legally, it's not; it's on you because you made and released the music, and you can't point a finger at someone else. Maybe they get in trouble too, but it won't save you. Doesn't matter if there was a T & C supplied with the samples or not.
it's crazy seeing AI morph the music industry in real time..
This is not an AI issue. Nothing about AI here what are u talking about?
It's almost illegal to make beats...🙄
🤣 not YET but I HEAR YOU
Just weeks away from sony claiming copyright for the notes ABCDEFG. And those semitones between them. 😁😂 Deal with it.
People are too lazy and greedy like there is no reason to clear a sample with all the ways to get around it it may be slower but I can guarantee it you are gonna eat
For Real - The same thing happened with DJ mixing. I've experienced situations & people where they think DJ mixing by default infringes theirs or other's rights! 🤷🏻♀️
Bro open the piano roll use them ghost notes be original
I'm hip hop, I'm sampling 🤷🏽
the roots is hiphop too & they don't sample, obviously u don't know what hiphop is if u think samplin is what makes it hiphop... same way rappin over a beat doesn't make it hiphop
@GriffinPoole I agree the roots are hip hop if you don't know what about sampling makes you hip hop dig deeper. But listen to any of the pioneers when they talk sampling they all say "this is hip hop we gonna sample" from Preem to Pete Rock to DJ Quik. But yes The Roots too are hip hop and they don't sample.
@@FonkedUpProductions I agree my last album was hip hop and I played all the music myself play my own instruments and creating loops by breaking up things I play into 5 second segments
@@FonkedUpProductions ur basically sayin ur hiphop becuz u sample, there's a BIG difference between u & the pioneers of hiphop... and the 3 ppl u named are all innovators - they've all created a sound all their own & ppl love it , that's what makes em special... do u even know what the fundamentals of hiphop are???
@GriffinPoole again, if you don't know what about sampling makes you hip hop dig deeper. You cannot sample and be equally be hip hop and it'll be for the same reason. I know hip hop in and out, do you? And I'm not just talking about rappers, I know hip hop.
Speaking from experience, it does slightly fall on an artist to clear samples they use, regardless if they used samples from royalty-free packs like Splice. As a Sound Designer, I always have to confirm clearance when I’m selling packs to clients it’s standard practice. This happens when people try to pass off other’s catalogs as their own and over saturate the market. I’m confused why this is Sonys problem? How did the sample align with a project of theirs? Where’s that thread?
I'm pretty sure it was a Sony Music published song the sample was from...
You should use software to check the sample yourself OR just ONLY use samples that have been vetted
It’s all about the LLC people that’s how you keep the legal responsibility from being personal
its just a protection of personal wealth. you'll still get sued no matter what.
GREAT VIDEO Curtis!!
I just realized why Sony was refusing to clear a sample watching this video. You mentioned a workaround to get samples cleared through different websites. Can you hit me up with some links please?
That's why in the old school, we chopped ANY sample, and changed the frequencies. Just cause they SAY it's cool doesn't mean it WILL be cool once the money comes in. It's the music business, you can't trust anyone
If you can't prove it's the same sample, can't sue & win!
Word!
Yeah and then you have people uploading remakes of your beats showing where you got it and what you did to alter it. Snitching basically.
@@jsun7972 how would they know for sure? Again, if they can’t prove it’s the same sample they can’t win the case
The issue is people want to just loop samples in 2024 like it’s still new when they need to be creative. Looped samples been dead, I don’t respect a producer who just loops samples with drum beats over them like we’re living in 1988
@@jsun7972😂😂😂😂😂 💯 man all the videos I seen breaking down old songs from the 2000s using samples but you won’t even notice it in the actual beat if it wasn’t for that RUclips video explaining it
Lander does what you're talking about as far as checking the songs for samples. I get flagged every now and then, but that's also one of the reasons why I use Landers sample pack and distribution together to streamline that process and save time and energy
The general rule is, is it’s up to the artist or artists label you sell/give your beat to to clear the sample for release. As a producer/beat maker you don’t need to clear anything really. Especially if you’re giving it away for free online.
Texas court? Sony filed in a large-corporation friendly district to make certain that they got a good verdict. Nastier work…
Good luck 🍀... Musicians keep doing what you doing I'm done
6:58 lol @ “damages to Sony” as if some dude uploading a song with an uncleared sample would really effect Sony in any way. They’d still be operating with or without this situation.
It’s more that Sony didn’t have their hands in making the artists so they have to get in your business somehow
Stick to Kontakt VSTs I suppose? Another question I got is where does content ID fall in and would the algorithm give false positives for similar sounds?
That's crazy. That's why i sample myself from old songs that i did. Im from Texas so on my screwed and chopped hooks or bridges i just sample myself and screw and chop it for a new song if need be. People think it's samples from other Texas artist but it's all me. And i will always sample myself. Looks like i been a step ahead for a while now.
They sue if they see you succeed.
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Yup, its rare they go after anyone not making money
would'nt you ?
That’s what I was thinking. They see nobody need them anymore
THIS IS THE DOWN FALL FOR US TO START THINKING LIKE THE TERMINATOR A MACHINE:))
A good tip for seeing if Ai will pick the sample up is to shazam it once youve flipped it! Done this a few times and seems to work well - Heard this from another producer so thought I'd try too
Definitely told the class about them packs! I’ll be showing them this
That’s why you gotta chop samples into bits and change the pitch. Make it different than the original. A lot of people always loop samples in their beats and the samples can get recognized. I always stay away from looping.
They got ai to detect that
@OZKitchen not if u turn the samples into pads and using them as sound design instruments i take samples and use granular synths to make new sounds
@jamesjr2550 yeah fair enough if you're just using audio as a source for new sound design you would never get caught anyway
I don’t agree with Dupree too much cause the industry he spearheaded has screwed over so many artist and the “business” he wants to go back to has never been fair
So sampling is taboo now, loop packs can't be trusted, Splice is overused, AI is suspicious. Producers are doomed.
Bro, I understand. But keep in mind it already happened to traditional painting artist like my self, and I can still paint, maybe not as well as when I was young but I actually do have paintings on my easels. But I get the same feeling from mastering a well constructed prompt for A.I. to create what is in my imagination in seconds. And I can easily have that picture put on canvas and garments. So let's please do as you said and use A.I. to create some of the tunes that previously took us days to produce and use it as samples, I still have to add to it in my DAW anyway. A.I. is the new tool for creative people accept it. It will be here longer than us anyway. Much love Curtis, thanks for all of the lessons.
Real producers and sample diggers don’t care about what they say
Kinda but
Real producers/artist get shit cleared, and if you don't care that's exactly what they want
@@ORIGINALDJZERO sample diggers true to crates do not care I promise u
@@ORIGINALDJZERO that’s y there is a thing called no sample snitching
@@ORIGINALDJZEROI guarantee you Alchemist ain't clearing his samples
Bro this shit is insane as an DIY. The only reason i dont quit is cause i was born like this. This shit sucks more and more daily fr. Just venting. Just venting.
10:08 I think it's a concerted effort to keep labels relevant moving forward. Besides greed, if you could get an indie artist to be afraid of the "scary" process that is navigating the music business, then it continues the allure of the lucrative major label deal in the mind of the indie who couldn't be bothered with the behind the scenes
Trying to sell an unlicensed sample pack is way different than re-using a sample 😩
It just gives a huge advantage to the top 1% who can clear anything they want
Right!!! How is an independent artist with limited finances gonna be able to clear a sample?
Just don’t use samples 😂
@@2xMint I love sampling tracks though lol
@@2xMintwhat they are saying I’m pretty sure is like more than HALF of top hits (billboard hits makifn money selling tickets type of artist) are sampled based these days
Having a detection system for distrokid would be cool. Before you upload any song you have to check a mandatory box saying you own and have the permission to sell and collect royalties for the track. If you dont, dont check the box and upload
As an person works in the IT industry. I have learned to embrace technology. Because one can be obsolete overnight
Make your own beats. Create your own stuff
Thank god I make my own beats I do like samples tho how to you manage to make money with no streaming is it like creating your own platform or just selling it direct mp3
I’m a engineer and mix and mastering engineer at Sony yes it’s true but only if the song blow up so you have time to get it clear but when it blow up it’s too late
Just read MBW article - homie didn't get charged because of using the sample, he got charged for not answering the complaint. He had a defense, he just didn't show up to tell on DistroKid.
15:51 my answer: he’s just the newest old guy making the same “old guy” argument in a new era. Old people said the same thing about sampling in the late eighties. “That’s not music!” Or drum machines before that “that’s not real drums” or synthesizer workstations “that’s a toy”, or auto tune “that’s not real music”. The idea is “why does it get to be easier for ‘kids today’? Why, back in MY day, you made a piano out a old shoe! And you had to wear the other one to walk to school up hill both ways even in the summer, and in the summer you had to build the school outta coal and sl*very tears!”
Tech makes things easier. But people forget: it also advances expectation. So yes, I now have serviceable emulations of vintage gear which would’ve cost millions of dollars in hardware just 20 years ago. This phone in my hand is 10’s of times more powerful than the custom build I had made when I was a college senior in 97 for three thousand bucks from a summer CBC internship, so imagine what can be had today from a custom build?
In 97, you could send in a demo tape that sounded like it was recorded in someone’s A$$, and get offered a deal. Try that now. Since Izotope and Slate and Maschine are assessable to legit anyone, if your 💩 don’t sound like Bernie Grundman and Dr. Dre and QUIK is your blood uncles that owe you a blood debt, and you don’t already have 5 million followers, you not getting to that A list artist level if such a level even exists anymore. Hand em an unsolicited demo cassette made the old fashioned way.
SINCE tech makes it easier to do more, you’re EXPECTED to do at least that. AT LEAST. to sign the next Kendrick, you have to show up already BETTER than Kendrick, since the tech is already there.
To your point from a previous vid tho? Now you have to sound as good as a K. Dot, but UNIQUE, since you can just ai prompt you something hella K. Dot via a website.
However, gone are the days of sample digging. The dudes who be finding the most obscure breaks and loops in thrift stores in overseas non-tourist destinations? That’s done. With Synthplant or whatever, I can take one kick and make a ton of similar ones, layer em, round robin them, and have “sampled” boom bap drums sourced from thin air. Same with some new synth I just heard of that does the same thing with tones. You can reverse engineer synths after you done stemmed it out.
So now, everyone can have access to everything imaginable.
It’s back to the dopest records being conjured from within, not sample packs or from actual samples. You basically now aren’t tasked with knowing music theory, but you ARE tasked with sampling the library of your own imagination.
Oh what must the truth behold from there?
The producer probably sampled it from a curated playlist. That song is very famous.
Tracklib all day. Done
Might be time for some of us to pick up an instrument possibly. They're clearly threatened by the indie artists and want to eat off of u by any means.
Good forbid ppl compose the actual music so time consuming
@@OZKitchen Sampling and micro chopping is composing and if you don't think that you know nothing about music mate. I play piano and bass and still choose to sample because of how much i love the art form of sample manipulation. 9th Wonder and other sample based producers run university courses and have spoken at oxford union about sampling.
i will just dig deeper
Most of the time, if the producer plays their cards right, will include in the contract that any samples that need to be cleared is the sole responsibility of the artist who buys the beat. However, when the producer don't even know that it needs to be cleared...that's when it gets f'd up fr..smh
This. It falls on the artist/company the artist is with to clear it.
They assume because the sample is old the labels won't pay attention.
That pound town soul tho 💯😂
Excellent commentary bro King. The way that they’re trying to do us as independents feels mighty Skynet like. Can’t get with the AI music apps, definitely prefer that human touch when it comes to the music. Great work as always. Peace!
Just use splice and cymatics
Never Never Ever Ever Never will i stop
Sheesh. How are producers like Cookin’ Soul, Metro, Alchemist, etc. able to get their samples approved and uploaded on these types of platforms?
That’s exactly why I don’t use samples or purchase beats and that’s why I copyright all of my music. I don’t need midi packs or beat packs. I create my own from scratch since 2008
I'm a up coming beat maker. Although I make my original made beats but every once in a while I do sample....Sampling is part of the hip hop culture ...I don't see it like stealing. I see it like we showing musical apprecriation to the greats before us ...I do Boom Bap heavy East Coast beats. Know that alone I like to chop sounds add my bass, add a little reverb....then add my scratches, my chopped samples...then take my EQ to clean out the sample & my drums. Last thing I do is master the whole project...put on a dat & whaalaah we got a beat done. I think the industry using artist for sampling is buggin'. If they trying to go after rap artist that sample....then what about when R&B uses samples? What about pop music uses sampling ? Even house , rock n roll, & gospel sample music. My advice to any up coming artist that want to use a sample sound....just make sure you clear it with the original artist or band. You don't want to be caught up in legal situation. Again, pay for your samples the right way & you'll be aight.....
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But yet most the older artist from the 90s sampled every Marvin Gaye/ Isley brothers shaka khanand Aretha Franklin but my generation is getting shit on because we sample . Wasn’t hip hop created off sampling
I'm an early adopter to AI. Great servant but terrible Master. It's not about the magic wand it's magician who makes it happen. The novelty affect the average user may have fun with and make something they like. But the dope stuff will still come from those who put in the work to make it fly. Ai can only emulate swag it can't make it. It's those who are creative that can take these tools and create something next level. Mid Wil be mid and that fire stays lit when that work is put in. And when I say work I'm not excluding ones imagination. Someone may not have the ability to play but they have a lot of dope sh*t they hear in their minds ear. It's all about figuring out what recipe is best for what you gonna serve. Peace!
ur a legend, thank you for taking the time to put that into words! spoken like a true artist 💯 peace! -Mr B
It’s a good thing that I don’t sample or buy samples packs
I was reading "All you need to know about the music business" and, indeed, as you said, they dont go hard on producers or distributors. For example, producers sometimes take 3 points of the master, and, artists gotta make an initial payment for producing the song. Then, artists gotta recoup their 3 percent before earning something.
Use tracklib 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Tracklib is dope, I just wish they had a bigger library
Yep
@@elonkush8013Me too
@@elonkush8013 it’s growing
Brodie my bro SlightWorkSaid just told me bout tracklib maybe a week ago
Normally labels try to work somethings out with artist before it reach the point of a law suit. I wonder if there is more to the story. I would guess there is.
It is. They tried to reach out to him for over 3 years, he ignored them
That is why I love tracklib. Mainly because it is honest and I don't have to worry about things like this. 💯✌🏼🤷🏽
I grew up in a small town with few other artists, I've created other artists and just changed my voice in the past, once ai came into the picture I started making music AS other artists like "Renlato'" and "Saint CNG" that sounded better doing different styles. recently checked out Udio and have been utilizing it in some very creative ways. its very powerful and I don't wanna get left behind so ima try to use it as much to my advantage as I can.
Hip hop has been litigious since day one. Rappers Delight had stolen prodution from "Good Times" by Chic. The songwriters Nile Ridger and Bernard Edwards threatened to sue and ended up getting writing credit. At this point its a 45 yr old tradition.
Sampling has always been fun and lots of really cool creative decisions have been made regarding it. That said, it’s always been a really lazy way to make a beat. It’s a whole lot easier than learning how music works to the point where you can establish whatever vibe you’re looking for on your own terms, but it comes at a serious cost. And I’m not even talking law/money.
In my opinion, sample packs are for people pretending to produce.
🚨UPDATE ALERT!!🚨
Per Billboard:
Tupac Shakur’s Estate Threatens to Sue Drake Over Diss Track Featuring AI-Generated Tupac Voice.
In a cease-and-desist letter to Drake obtained exclusively by Billboard, the late rapper's estate says it is "deeply dismayed" and would "never have given its approval."
They right
Sound is everywhere and it's free we cant be letting these record companies do us like this, I went to the park a while back and there was a guy genuinely sampling the metal gate because it sounded like a horn, everyone knows about the street drummers on pots and pans, All power to people using sample packs if they want to but literally EVERYTHING makes a sound, sound is everywhere like the air we breathe. I'm composing for a videogame, sampled a chef in a restaurant making a ghost noise, don't have to worry about other people using that from a sample pack, it's amazing what you can achieve just going out into the world with a microphone. If the industry is gonna try and move one way, we need to move another really.
I always thought they scanned for samples.
Sadly, i can see pettiness like this increasing..especially if more artist start going the direct to consumer route. They’re gonna try to find a way to get in our pockets. Disgusting
This is just another sign between this and the streaming wars, social media wars, former big media execs working in youtube etc...
that the internet transition into television 2.0 is near completion, and with all the red tape, hurdles and broadcast consolidation that comes with mainstream media.
So protecting your ip is petty? Ok
Why should you be allowed to sell work that you stole?
@@TheAzurefang if its from an actual royalty free pack they bought a license from a reputable source that should be fine. Consent is established
If they lifted straight from copyrighted record w/o licensing and didnt clear it, thats when it can be issue. Or if maker of sample pack just chopped up copyrighted material and deceptively resold as royalty free.
I loved your expose on her. As young boy it goes without saying I was captivated by her beauty. I hate that the industry and life chewed up and spit out another one!💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Also I think this should be scary as hell for the beat makers who make "type beats" the way things are going now those dudes are playing with fire.
The age of the replica is over
@@freshestinclass763 and the thing is they aren't going to come after you until you've already gone viral and you just started making good money
I was about to sample a great. But I withdrew a few days ago. It's better to just go original and fresh
I mean this in the nicest way- and I mean no disrespect to any party here but the hip hop commmunity is pretty behind with getting behind sound design and getting familiar with the renaissance of sampling- resampling.
You don’t need to be a sound design wizard, but especially now with ai and insane sample pack controversy, it’s a push to raise the standard and learn to mangle.
Learn to mess around with a synth or fiddle with recordings and make your own stuff. You’ll be happier with coming up with new ideas you’d never imagine making in the first place.
I’m not here to tell you how to make music but give you solution on how to avoid this problem.
We need to eliminate copyright laws regarding music. It’s slowing down creativity.
None of these viral AI songs was created by an amateur just pressing a button. A lot of work went into each one. Might as well use human musicians
What platform do you release music to
It’s not fair for the artist 🎤✍🏾📚
yes it is.
Curtis, this has to STOP! The entertainment industry is all about sharing a piece of the pie. Artists keep crying 😢 over this and that, but the labels, distributors, and production companies and streaming services all are putting out energy to move things forward. The indie or signed artist keep it all is NOT right either. Let's open our eyes. Share, share, share the wealth, and We all WIN. #sidowsobrino
i been knowing this this is good news its alot of yotubers making beats an using samples i bought a beat an i used it an it said iwas stealing a old song youtube will also flagg yo music bout it but still lets you use it
We must stand up as musicians and set boundaries and standards for our Industry
You are correct. Sampling as we know it, is dead. AI can make a "sample" that has never been created before.
There are a ton of affordable sample clearance and leasing routes nowadays. No need to get sued and if you lease and do paperwork for the lease. Then the liability routes that way
They can take 90% of my blow up song if it makes me solidified in the industry, now I'm in game and I move smarter on the next songs. Y'all gotta play the game smarter. Don't be afraid to pay your dues bro
I compose all of my melodies, and drum patterns myself, but I use drum sample packs from Reddit to compose my own original drum loops. Are the labels likely to sue for that too?
Yea.
@@freshestinclass763 nobody will sue you for a snare one shot.
@ yea I misread that