Really enjoy reading everyone's opinion and viewpoint on SD appearance. Interesting how each generation has their supporters, and how some simply hate other SD generations. That was a big discussion when Aluminum body was released... Which has turned out to be a market advantage and great decision. My view seems to evolve, being F450 Owner... Thought the rounded dual hips the best... Especially over the early squared hips. The new '23-24 Dually Hips are the best yet... Very muscular tough with a classy angular view at same time. Many hate the new '23-24 Ft End while that was a selling point to me to order '24 Limited. One thing Ford retained was physical knobs for common quick adjustments, horizontal screen provided space below in natural reach. Moving to a Ram style verticle tablet style screen to me is hidious. While waiting 10 months for my F450, I drove Ram & GMC High end Duallys, seriously considering a move... Which reinforced my desire to wait for F450. With the little look changes hinted for 2025, the end of Limited... I'm glad I went with '24. Does that mean '24 better than older Gens... Not in all ways... And any Diesel going forward is going to be costly to purchase and maintain. 10 yrs from now... Looking back will realign again.
@@BMax0055Same here, w the tremor package. I can’t bring myself to trade my 2022 for a 2023/2024. That front end and the wheels… smh. Maybe once Ford drops the CP4 etc from their diesel, I’ll probably get one next. Until then, the 7.3 has been good to me. I don’t tow, but love the truck and the “real estate” it has to haul stuff.
Ford kept same body style from 1999 to 2016, same doors, windows, body lines, just minor tweaks like the tailgate, tail lights headlights, grille. Then engine and transmissions changed due to problems and emission laws. 2011 the 6.7 came out, had turbo issues till 2013 then revised it again in 2015. 2017 came the alumiduty and quite a few new changes. 10 speed in 2020. Big screen in 2022. Then 2023 with new interior and hideous front end. Hopefully for the 2026 refresh itll be a more aggressive looking front end💯💪
I’ve had pictures of the 2025 super duties for months now it’s just a few minor changes and interior colors. No more limited. It’s same thing they did with the 2024 f150s
@@arjunkundu499 not for 2025 and I don’t see why they ever would again the modern automatics are way better. Ford still offers manuals in the mustang and bronco.
@@JoshuaOverman that’s disappointing that they don’t offer a manual transmission for their trucks. Maybe I should find someone that can do a transmission swap?
Front end look kinda grew on me. The all chrome on the Larait is meh, and the sport package grill looks bad. I rather like the Platinum/Limited setup though, with the chrome bars all the way across and the painted bumper. I agree the previous gen was better looking and GMC still takes the cake in the looks department but they honestly look a lot better in-person and driving around irl than they do on any RUclips vids.
Ford if you’re watching this… bring black interior back and let us buy a Tremor with a normal diesel engine!!! Get off your high horse before you go out of business and bring the price down.
@christopherrubay3918 I liked my 08, but even my dad said it was the ugliest truck he'd seen. But then again I liked the chevu avalanche. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Wait, they just released they are changing the whole interior for 2025. New vertical screen and going to wood grain and aluminum trim? also changing the hoof, side profile and grille. You are saying they aren't changing any of this. So who is accurate here?
@paulhyland5868 that sounds grand, but my sources I trust. There are a lot of people putting outrageous changes or even concepts. I'll stand by what ive been told. 26 though there will be some.
I drive 05 Dodge 3500 long bed dullay 5.9 6 speed manual 4 door cab my son in-law bought a Raptor and it has so much room inside the cab is wider and just more room way more the my Dodge .
Got a 23 and have been happy. I wish they would come out with a front e locker for it. The new model should have the option to compete with the powerwagon. Also i like the old door handles better for one reason. If you forget to lock your doors bears can open it lol.
Could you go into more detail on the AC issue you mentioned? I got a 24 and AC works, but not too great. Wondering if I need to get it looked at. Thanks!
My neighbor just got a 2024 f250 lariat 6.7 and the AC just went out on it, Dealer says part is back ordered, apparently its a common issue with these new trucks
I was told the 6.8 is getting a 25hp bump and the 7.3 a 50hp bump and over 500 TQ. I want the 7.3 HO..thats what I am waiting for. The 6.7 diesel will have 500/1200 and 525/1350. We presently have a 2020 7.3 (my personal truck w carli suspension) and 21 7.3 (our work truck and local hot shot and that one has 146k miles.) and 2024 6.6 GMC gas my partners truck. Trading them in for 3 new 25's. If the major changes like you say will be in 2026 I will wait.
Do you happen to know where the transmission is produced the one that you have in your current vehicle and on the super duties with the diesel option are they actually manufactured in the US Canada or as I have now heard in China
@tomchepey2999 the transmission is made in sharonsville planted in Cincinnati OH. The 7.3 godzilla and 6.8 are made in Windsor canada. The 6.7 powerstorke is made in chihuahua Mexico and the trucks themselves are made in the US, primarily the SD made in Kentucky.
@mitchreynolds9414 since the chwvy crushed it I had to sell to buy another truck for the channel, just couldn't afford to run two. So I sold that to a buddy of mine that wanted it since I bought it. He's a contractor and tows all the time. KONG (6.6 chevy has over 40k), no problems, zero oil consumption. I joked with him about buying it back and he said, nope, it's the first truck he's ever had that he actually liked and has had zero issues.
@johnw4999 sorry didn't elaborate about that. There is a connection on the passenger side that on 23s and some early 24s the wires ran close to an area where they could chafe and short out. On mine the wires have been moved slightly and covered so they don't chafe. If ones ac isn't working you can turn on the ac and wiggle the wires, if it turns on while wiggling they'll need to be repaired and covered with some wire shrouding.
I know you are a ford fan from your videos...as was I...BUT 3 brand new ones in the last 3 yrs and NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS... Just filed a lemon law on a brand new 23 f150 that didn't even make it to 4000 miles before the trans took a shit and they couldn't fix it and didn't replace nothing because they couldn't diagnosis it.. Anyone buy a ford today is a fool... My 22 was nothing but recalls and ford didn't have the parts to fix it... also had repeated trans issues.. My 21 was a super duty and it was a flat-out dog that wondered all over the road and they couldn't fix it.. Just modern junk
@Supertramp01 I agree with you on many of your points. I try not to give off the vibe on being one brand fan. I grew up chevy and when ram blew the market up in 1994, I became an all out ram fan. I've owned mostly rams in my life, my best one being a 16 dually cummins, but I wish I still had my 05 6spd. I try and be objective on my channel trying all of them. I've even owned (what was allegedly the worst) ford's 6.0 and 6.4 and had really good luck with them. I ran a 24 chevy last year (first one up the ike over any channel) a 24 ram diesel and now this one. I've had issues on all my ford SD trucks over the past 5 years, and zero issues with my f150s. I do know that's not everyone's experience with ford, as you mentioned. People still buy these ford's even being the recall leader. I've had tons of issues with my 24 ford and report on those. If I wad buying a half ton, I'd go f150 powerboost over any of the others. If I was buying HD gas, it would be a GM truck. And if, and only if a diesel again, I'd want a cummins in a chevy, but since they don't do that lol, I'd have to say duramax. I appreciate your feedback and sharing your experiences. My channel is about sharing info, experiences and creating conversations for other to see how these do out here. Thanks again for being here and checking out the channel.
@@automotiveinquiries9673 Heres my shake... I personally this... the chevy HD is the ugliest truck I have ever seen and wouldn't buy one based on just that lol.. Looked at GM HDs and like them but the prices are out of control... believe it or not was willing to give ford another try in a super duty even with A plan pricing I couldn't justify it.. I am a member on the ford truck forum and there are way to many problems with ford.. Most members on there say if they were to buy another gasser HD truck it would be a Ram.. Almost every tech that I have spoke to has said to buy a Ram HD gasser and these are chevy and Ford guys saying this.. I am a no frills truck guy..I want base as base can get.. There is way to much electronics in these truck and i dont need a tv as a radio or vibrating seats lol.. I am not brand loyal and have owned them all but always preferred ford trucks.. But no more. Even after watching many videos and yours included even with the distain for Ram.. I just bought a 2500 HD quad cab 6 ft bed in granite with the 6.4 on sale from 60k to 43k (cant get a half ton for that price ) and honestly I am really like everything about minus the fact it has carpet and push button 4 wheel drive. The fact that most techs i speak to says to by a Ram speaks volumes (i am a manager for a large tool manufacture so I speak to a lot) Hopefully it turns out to be a good truck as I am pretty burned out trying to find one..I will be doing a review of it on here after a couple weeks of owning it.. Keep up the good work and content..
I didn’t hear you mention (or I missed it) the rumor that the 7.3 Godzilla was going to be E85 compatible like the 6.8 is currently. Is that going to be the case? Additionally, I understand that interior screen is going to be vertical instead of horizontal.
It’s not that different and it’s really not complicated at all you are just overthinking it. It has a bigger screen and a heads up display is that really to confusing for you to handle?
@@JoshuaOverman I’m talking about deleting the emissions and the whole thing in general, I know a lot about these trucks, I drive them daily and my personal is a 16. Deleting these new ones is a nightmare. And they added way more sensors tot he engine block and the dpf and transmission. Did I really have to explain this?
Really enjoy reading everyone's opinion and viewpoint on SD appearance. Interesting how each generation has their supporters, and how some simply hate other SD generations. That was a big discussion when Aluminum body was released... Which has turned out to be a market advantage and great decision.
My view seems to evolve, being F450 Owner... Thought the rounded dual hips the best... Especially over the early squared hips. The new '23-24 Dually Hips are the best yet... Very muscular tough with a classy angular view at same time. Many hate the new '23-24 Ft End while that was a selling point to me to order '24 Limited.
One thing Ford retained was physical knobs for common quick adjustments, horizontal screen provided space below in natural reach. Moving to a Ram style verticle tablet style screen to me is hidious. While waiting 10 months for my F450, I drove Ram & GMC High end Duallys, seriously considering a move... Which reinforced my desire to wait for F450.
With the little look changes hinted for 2025, the end of Limited... I'm glad I went with '24. Does that mean '24 better than older Gens... Not in all ways... And any Diesel going forward is going to be costly to purchase and maintain. 10 yrs from now... Looking back will realign again.
I have 2022 f450 KR loaded atlas blue best looking superduty to date
Everywhere i go i get compliments 👍
The 2020-2022 are the best Ford has ever done. Wish they would go back to that look.
Yep. I got the 2022 7.3 godzilla
@@BMax0055Same here, w the tremor package. I can’t bring myself to trade my 2022 for a 2023/2024. That front end and the wheels… smh. Maybe once Ford drops the CP4 etc from their diesel, I’ll probably get one next. Until then, the 7.3 has been good to me. I don’t tow, but love the truck and the “real estate” it has to haul stuff.
@mojo4376 Completely agree!! Nothing tops them!!
Interior is junk
1997 is the best ever built unless you go back to 1970
Ford kept same body style from 1999 to 2016, same doors, windows, body lines, just minor tweaks like the tailgate, tail lights headlights, grille. Then engine and transmissions changed due to problems and emission laws. 2011 the 6.7 came out, had turbo issues till 2013 then revised it again in 2015. 2017 came the alumiduty and quite a few new changes. 10 speed in 2020. Big screen in 2022. Then 2023 with new interior and hideous front end. Hopefully for the 2026 refresh itll be a more aggressive looking front end💯💪
I’ve had pictures of the 2025 super duties for months now it’s just a few minor changes and interior colors. No more limited. It’s same thing they did with the 2024 f150s
Are they going to offer the manual transmission again or are they only going to offer the automatic transmissions?
@@arjunkundu499 not for 2025 and I don’t see why they ever would again the modern automatics are way better. Ford still offers manuals in the mustang and bronco.
@@JoshuaOverman that’s disappointing that they don’t offer a manual transmission for their trucks. Maybe I should find someone that can do a transmission swap?
Front end look kinda grew on me. The all chrome on the Larait is meh, and the sport package grill looks bad. I rather like the Platinum/Limited setup though, with the chrome bars all the way across and the painted bumper.
I agree the previous gen was better looking and GMC still takes the cake in the looks department but they honestly look a lot better in-person and driving around irl than they do on any RUclips vids.
I want them to bring out like a high end interior on the xl since people customize the outside anyway
A lot of us really want to see these terrible looking bed & bumper steps eliminated !!! #FORD
Do you know if a metallic green or hunter green color option will be available in 2025 Superduty?
@@echotoday as of now, green of any color is not offered.
Ford if you’re watching this… bring black interior back and let us buy a Tremor with a normal diesel engine!!! Get off your high horse before you go out of business and bring the price down.
Just think how much money they make not changing anything!
Ford really needs to go back to the pre2023 analog gauges instead of the clown bar graph gauges now!!! Are the designers that clueless??!!!
I really liked the look of the 08 to 10 super duty. I think I like it better then the 11 to 16
@christopherrubay3918 I liked my 08, but even my dad said it was the ugliest truck he'd seen. But then again I liked the chevu avalanche. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@@automotiveinquiries9673 I feel personally attacked 😂. I love the Avalanche AND I think the ‘08 was a good looking super duty.
They also just need to bring back the 92-97 bodies just make a hand full every month
Any Idea on 2025 bronco changes? I’m pleased with my 20 KR 7.3 tremor,36km no issues to date.
2008-2010 is three years for the Second Gen SD
Wait, they just released they are changing the whole interior for 2025. New vertical screen and going to wood grain and aluminum trim? also changing the hoof, side profile and grille. You are saying they aren't changing any of this. So who is accurate here?
@paulhyland5868 that sounds grand, but my sources I trust. There are a lot of people putting outrageous changes or even concepts. I'll stand by what ive been told. 26 though there will be some.
I drive 05 Dodge 3500 long bed dullay 5.9 6 speed manual 4 door cab my son in-law bought a Raptor and it has so much room inside the cab is wider and just more room way more the my Dodge .
Waiting on 2025 order books to open. Wanting to order a F450 regular cab pickup. XLT, H.O. 6.7.
That’s a badass truck
Got a 23 and have been happy. I wish they would come out with a front e locker for it. The new model should have the option to compete with the powerwagon. Also i like the old door handles better for one reason. If you forget to lock your doors bears can open it lol.
I want 4A in SD.
Could you go into more detail on the AC issue you mentioned? I got a 24 and AC works, but not too great. Wondering if I need to get it looked at. Thanks!
I second this and talk a bit more about the zip tie and wiring.
My neighbor just got a 2024 f250 lariat 6.7 and the AC just went out on it, Dealer says part is back ordered, apparently its a common issue with these new trucks
@@ericcorrales1025 Yes, anything with a build date prior to July 2024 need new AC Compressors.
I would love to order a Ford Super Duty truck, but I want one with a manual transmission.
A hybrid super duty will be interesting.
I was told the 6.8 is getting a 25hp bump and the 7.3 a 50hp bump and over 500 TQ. I want the 7.3 HO..thats what I am waiting for. The 6.7 diesel will have 500/1200 and 525/1350. We presently have a 2020 7.3 (my personal truck w carli suspension) and 21 7.3 (our work truck and local hot shot and that one has 146k miles.) and 2024 6.6 GMC gas my partners truck. Trading them in for 3 new 25's. If the major changes like you say will be in 2026 I will wait.
Really like the Godzilla 7.3L lettering. Does the new 2025 trucks come with that? If not what size letters are they?
bro what? The 2008-2010s are by far one of the best looking superdutys
I think by 2026 they will just offer HO Diesel, If it does not show any major issues for warranty claims.
I would wait until they stop making those v8s, which is around the corner. On top of that i would want it to come with a really good engine brake.
So here’s my question and want…. I’d like to have the new F150 Pro Access Tailgate on the new 2025 Ford F250 Superduty…. Recon that will be an option?
do you think they will bring the swing tail gate from the f150 to the super duty?
While functional, I am not a fan of the GM style side steps or bumper steps. They b ugly
I would like to know when Ford is going to take orders for the 2025 model.
@train1962 from what they've told me is a short 25 window. Should be end of Sept. Originally it was slated for June.
@@automotiveinquiries9673 Thanks for the reply.I'm ready to order and replace my 05, 6.8 V10, 6 Spd.manual.
Thumbs down for the clickbait image on the video cover
Do you happen to know where the transmission is produced the one that you have in your current vehicle and on the super duties with the diesel option are they actually manufactured in the US Canada or as I have now heard in China
@tomchepey2999 the transmission is made in sharonsville planted in Cincinnati OH. The 7.3 godzilla and 6.8 are made in Windsor canada. The 6.7 powerstorke is made in chihuahua Mexico and the trucks themselves are made in the US, primarily the SD made in Kentucky.
Wish they would bring back blue jeans or atlas blue
what happened to your 6.6 gas chevy?
@mitchreynolds9414 since the chwvy crushed it I had to sell to buy another truck for the channel, just couldn't afford to run two. So I sold that to a buddy of mine that wanted it since I bought it. He's a contractor and tows all the time. KONG (6.6 chevy has over 40k), no problems, zero oil consumption. I joked with him about buying it back and he said, nope, it's the first truck he's ever had that he actually liked and has had zero issues.
Wonder how much the mandated impaired driver technology is impacting the 2025 model year. Believe it’s due to be implemented by 2026.
Ford guy going to buy chevy this year
Blue is never available. You ask for one. No one has one
Needs a 2 inch leveling kit for front end, put on a black texas ranch hand front end guard with a 12,000 pound warn winch. Put a led bar on ranch hand
5:57 Speaking about the A/C issue?
@johnw4999 sorry didn't elaborate about that. There is a connection on the passenger side that on 23s and some early 24s the wires ran close to an area where they could chafe and short out. On mine the wires have been moved slightly and covered so they don't chafe. If ones ac isn't working you can turn on the ac and wiggle the wires, if it turns on while wiggling they'll need to be repaired and covered with some wire shrouding.
25 color will be Avalanche
Hope they add a operating hood scoop. Love that in GM HD’s
I know you are a ford fan from your videos...as was I...BUT 3 brand new ones in the last 3 yrs and NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS...
Just filed a lemon law on a brand new 23 f150 that didn't even make it to 4000 miles before the trans took a shit and they couldn't fix it and didn't replace nothing because they couldn't diagnosis it..
Anyone buy a ford today is a fool...
My 22 was nothing but recalls and ford didn't have the parts to fix it... also had repeated trans issues..
My 21 was a super duty and it was a flat-out dog that wondered all over the road and they couldn't fix it..
Just modern junk
@Supertramp01 I agree with you on many of your points. I try not to give off the vibe on being one brand fan. I grew up chevy and when ram blew the market up in 1994, I became an all out ram fan. I've owned mostly rams in my life, my best one being a 16 dually cummins, but I wish I still had my 05 6spd. I try and be objective on my channel trying all of them. I've even owned (what was allegedly the worst) ford's 6.0 and 6.4 and had really good luck with them. I ran a 24 chevy last year (first one up the ike over any channel) a 24 ram diesel and now this one. I've had issues on all my ford SD trucks over the past 5 years, and zero issues with my f150s. I do know that's not everyone's experience with ford, as you mentioned. People still buy these ford's even being the recall leader. I've had tons of issues with my 24 ford and report on those. If I wad buying a half ton, I'd go f150 powerboost over any of the others. If I was buying HD gas, it would be a GM truck. And if, and only if a diesel again, I'd want a cummins in a chevy, but since they don't do that lol, I'd have to say duramax. I appreciate your feedback and sharing your experiences. My channel is about sharing info, experiences and creating conversations for other to see how these do out here. Thanks again for being here and checking out the channel.
@@automotiveinquiries9673solid 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@automotiveinquiries9673 Heres my shake... I personally this... the chevy HD is the ugliest truck I have ever seen and wouldn't buy one based on just that lol..
Looked at GM HDs and like them but the prices are out of control...
believe it or not was willing to give ford another try in a super duty even with A plan pricing I couldn't justify it..
I am a member on the ford truck forum and there are way to many problems with ford.. Most members on there say if they were to buy another gasser HD truck it would be a Ram.. Almost every tech that I have spoke to has said to buy a Ram HD gasser and these are chevy and Ford guys saying this..
I am a no frills truck guy..I want base as base can get.. There is way to much electronics in these truck and i dont need a tv as a radio or vibrating seats lol..
I am not brand loyal and have owned them all but always preferred ford trucks.. But no more. Even after watching many videos and yours included even with the distain for Ram.. I just bought a 2500 HD quad cab 6 ft bed in granite with the 6.4 on sale from 60k to 43k (cant get a half ton for that price ) and honestly I am really like everything about minus the fact it has carpet and push button 4 wheel drive. The fact that most techs i speak to says to by a Ram speaks volumes (i am a manager for a large tool manufacture so I speak to a lot) Hopefully it turns out to be a good truck as I am pretty burned out trying to find one..I will be doing a review of it on here after a couple weeks of owning it..
Keep up the good work and content..
Is they coming out with the new Nissan Titan?
Nissan is not going to build pickups anymore .
@rodriguezhudson202 unfortunately the production of the titan enda this year. If you really want a new one. There are some incentives running on them.
Why dont they put two turbos on 6.7 cummins like they did the gas straight 6 hurricane?
@brentmcmahon8188 Ford did have compound turbos on the 6.4. I had one and man it was wicked.
Why, it’s not needed. The turbo produces plenty of boost! Two the head bolts would not hold!
I didn’t hear you mention (or I missed it) the rumor that the 7.3 Godzilla was going to be E85 compatible like the 6.8 is currently. Is that going to be the case?
Additionally, I understand that interior screen is going to be vertical instead of horizontal.
I wouldn’t waste my money on any ford new than 19, these new ones are just over the top with garbage breakable technology.
It’s not that different and it’s really not complicated at all you are just overthinking it. It has a bigger screen and a heads up display is that really to confusing for you to handle?
@@JoshuaOverman I’m talking about deleting the emissions and the whole thing in general, I know a lot about these trucks, I drive them daily and my personal is a 16. Deleting these new ones is a nightmare. And they added way more sensors tot he engine block and the dpf and transmission. Did I really have to explain this?
@@JakeScott-ke3shmost dealers will not take a deleted truck on a trade in. Eventually one will no longer be able to register a deleted truck.
Never buy a Ford on new model. Total crap
They will be just as overpriced as everything else.