Watchtower makes me sick to my stomach. They cry about their religious freedom being violated, but it doesn't apply to the members that don't have a choice to make their own choices in their own lives.
@@simonjusticier333so we better find a way to expose them even more because if they get their way they will eventually get away with it. They already get away with legalized murder through the blood policy. They have to make human sacrifices to the demonic deity called Jehovah. Yes people do the research on the type of deity this god actually is
I believe it!! My husband is df’d! They came to us for an our follow up meeting. My husband asked them some questions about some scripture. Instead of answering the questions they asked us if we believe in what the governing body teaches. When we said no, Meeting was over! Been 2 years! Wish they would come back, I got some more questions! 🤣
Isn't that amazing. They didn't ask if one still believes in god, 🤔 but rather, if one's beliefs are that god is using the Governing Body of the JW's to speak to his people?
It's funny tor that God showed mother that we all go to heaven even her twin sister who was a life long atheist and yet Jehovah never told the GB. He trusted Mom over them. You have to laugh
He speaks about religious freedom, what a hypocrite. Religious freedom should include freedom to leave without penalties. You are shunned if you don't agree with the GB's rules and teachings.
Because the ones who are awake are a liability to their “business fund” long as you keep the people in blindness/darkness unawares they’ll keep pouring into the business and building it up. Look at how they had all of us being volunteers for so long willingly cleaning, and building and slaving FOR MF FREE!!
They have always been hypocrites, and will continue to get worse and thats because the rank and file are hypocrites, not all of them but I can say for sure the vast majority of them are, thats why they dont care what watchtower changes they will continue with the religious bs because they care about appearances, status and all the crap that goes on.
It is a word game with terminology, that the WT is playing. They are putting the focus on terms such as "disfellowshipping," "removed" and "voluntary leaving" instead of the pertinent tragedy, namely "shunning." That letter is a piece of intellectual rubbish. When a policy as this is changed, it should be done ceremonially, published on many or all available platforms/outlets, implemented for a reasonable period of time to be assured of its success. A government agency would be expecting this kind of progression and may even randomly verify that the procedure is not simply a subterfuge. That letter is a gargled knot of tangled (and meaningless) processes that is side-stepping the issue of shunning people, who simply want out of a high-control group.
@10:04 I got disfellowshipped and never had a meeting. I told the elder I no longer trusted the governing body because I felt like they were being dishonest with us about A LOT of things. And the elder wanted to meet with me. And I said there’s nothing to talk about. I want to serve the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And the following meeting it was announced that I was no longer a JW. Only reason I knew that is because someone reached out to me about the announcement.
After exposing the sham "judicial committee" that unexpectedly DF'd me 3 years ago, I appealed to the New York HQ service department to reprove and remove these elders, and reinstate me; for the love of my family and grandchildren that they were holding hostage. I told these hypocrites to reach down and find their balls, to stand up and reprove those who wrote the elder's manual ; including any governing body member who approved these policies! I asked them, "Will you find the courage to stand up for Jehovah's standards and the love and direction of our congregation head; Jesus Christ? Or will you cowardly withdraw and obey "men as rulers rather than God." (Acts 5: 29) I told them emphatically that I would serve Jehovah WITH OR WITHOUT AN ORGANIZATION CLAIMING TO BE "HIS WITNESSES"! Only lookout that you don't "become fighters against God!" Read the account of the persecution of the apostles and the response of Gamaliel; a law teacher, who warned the jews about what happens to those who start a movement that HAS God's backing; and those who start a movement WITHOUT God's backing at Acts 5: 33-39!! )
Can i just summarise the letter fir everyone : "Please Norway Government, we've made some very minor adjustments to our man made rules, so can we have our money back please, pretty please ?"
The money issue is negligible for an organization with WT assets. It’s more dangerous to allow any country to set legal precedence that may be the basis for other countries to follow.
JW Org LOVE money from the wicked governments. They forget "other religious organizations", and do not cut their loved ones off and throw them to the wolves.
Is this because of Religious Freedom Foundation there in Norway? The US has this agency too. I wonder if WT JW will change. Also active JW have the Semmesweis Reflex combined with the viewing scriptures their way or doctrine Side note Serene Williams,new JW runs a modeling fashion company and on cover of Essence magazine this month. Umm when very rich JW can do what want
my husband was ex communicated for a year. Then when he committed suicide, I learned he was about to be reinstated the following week. His mother had been told not to even pray for him when he was suffering depression.
So Jehovah's Witnesses are "softening" their shunning policy? To the Watchtower Society's Governing Body, I would say "That is not enough to suit me!!!. Your unjust shunning policy should be ABOLISHED completely!!". That is what I would tell that corrupt sham of a religion. Otherwise, they can just get lost for all I care! Thank you, Kim and Mikey, for this latest update on Jehovah's Witnesses.
How do we older ones handle this? I'm not even old but I sure as heck feel old... I feel old because I was raised in a cult!!! AND being raised a 4th generation daughter in a doomsday cult does that dang it. Dang it I'm still bitterly angry Mike!!! For example, My parents are still married and in the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses. My father is a gifted self-taught left-handed guitarist. Think of Jimmy Hendrix mixed with a blues guitarist with grassroots storytelling folk lyrics! He's been a janitor. A phlebotomist. And now in his retirement age, he is living on not much of a pension and social security!! Thanks, Watchtower!! For improving my family's wealth!!! It's ok though. I'm raising my 5 children differently thankfully, but it took me so long to fully come out of my own cognizant dissonance. And what of my own tortured self???. I can sing. I really could sing a long time ago when I was 18 but at almost 18 I was disfellowshipped and literally kicked out of my house! I dealt with becoming Dinah by smoking, drinking, traumatizing myself more and sadly some drug use. This lifestyle choice wasted much of my youthful energetic 20's and 30's . .My throat is tender now. I'm learning to baby it. Sooth it. Make better choices. To stop traumatizing my Self and my Temple.. Trying to slow way down on smoking. I make up my own kingdom song parodies. Me and my older girls. I'm growing younger from this point on! Sad for those still stuck. And that includes my mother who seems to be as stubborn and unmovable as both your mothers Kim and Mike. I just knew something happened within the organization this week!! My parents are in a congregation in one of the Kingdom Halls in Lafayette Indiana. They just had a special meeting at their local hall this past week.I wanted some legal advice from my mother who retired from working in the courthouse as a child support . I got permission from my dad to talk to my mom. She answered his phone to answer a question I had. Dad is civil. Friendly. My sad and sweet dad is excited for the kinder gentler changes no matter the reason and will be coming to his apostate disfellowshipped mentally diseased daughter's house from hours away to bring a few gifts to his grandkids soon. BUT MY MOTHER....so so frustrating. None of what I just typed matters one bit to Watchtower. Money. Power. Control. That is what matters to the corporation of The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Evil Pervo corrupt Elite women and men. The "other sheep" or "the great crowd" are controlled by JW extremist, government and hate-based corrupt people who spread and cultivate secret propaganda to infants, children, and the general public publishing organization also led by psychotic sick and the satanic child abusing women hating disgusting bible publishing business in the disguise of religion.
I wonder if on occasion the societies attorneys feel like the actor Tom Cruise when he shouts in one of his movies ...." SHOW ME THE MONEY "......" SHOW ME THE FRICKEN MONEY "
So the only thing that really changed is that you can say hello to a df person. And you can invite them to the Hall. Other than that, no contact or socializing. That's not much of a change, hopefully not enough to make Norway change their stance.
Watchtower allowed witnesses in Malawi to be SAed, cut by machete, had their private parts grinded and other torture; all because they would not own a political party card. But Watchtower changed its rules so it can get money from Norway. This is very disturbing to me.
It all sounds very good BUT we are advised, and I quote, “we will use our bible based conscience to decide “ who’s the WE? WT? Or the brainwashed rank and file who cannot make their own decisions without being told what to think. I asked a friend if I left the org because of there was possibly a teaching that was not scriptural, would they still speak to me and the answer was no. So much for ones bible based conscience
soooooooo....again.....if what they have is the "truth"....they should not have to change anything or make any "adjustments " especially to get something (money) from the world.....which may I remind them, they want no part of!!
Why would they worry about being funded by the government? They are separate from this world and believe God will provide? Jesus didn't expect to be funded by Caesar or get tax cuts. He said "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's". This is a money making racket and they don't care about any God at all.
What happened to 'Jehovah will provide' so that the Watchtower would not need to use any worldly court system in order to get money from 'worldly governments'? The proof that the Watchtower was ''The Truth'' was that ''Jehovah provided'', and that ''God's Organisation'' was not in need of handouts from Satan's System!! Now, it seems that Jehovah is not providing, and the Watchtower is dependent on economical handouts from Satan's governments!
Exactly! The Watchtower's brazen hypocrisy, trying to exploit the constitution and the political leaders of a country by mentioning them, when the Watchtower has always been working against all countries, all constitutions and all political systems and leaders because it is all a part of Satan's System!!
you are so great 👌👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍and the watchtower, the governing body are so hypocritical, it's all extorted love that is practiced there and I think the judges in Oslo won't fall for their nonsense. thank you and kind regards from Germany🥰
What sticks out to me in that letter is that it says that the extent of the association we have with those that have been removed, is dependent on personal circumstances and personal conscience. That's not what the study article says in the August Watchtower.
"Ooooh they're threatening our freedom of religion." You mean 'freedom to discriminate and freedom to incite hatred?" Because that's what you're doing Watchtower! And your disfellowshipping policies rarely follow the spirit of the Christ; and reflect the forgiveness qualities that true Christians are to practice!! Effing hypocrites! I hope they arrest and imprison these governing body "impostors" and "real apostates"! The real Jehovah does not put his spirit on those who don't follow his commands and His example of love.
Isn’t there a way that ex members in Norway can let this court know that watchtower is playing word games just to get there money and that in actuality they are still shunning? All they have to do is ask the ex members if it’s true that watchtower has loosened this Policy or not, right? Doesn’t watchtower have to prove that they don’t do this anymore?
''..if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.'' - 1 Timothy 5:8 That scripture alone exposes the Watchtower as deniers of the True Faith, and show that they are worse than unbelievers every time that they shun and expel their own flesh and blood from their families and households, not just from the Watchtower congregations of non-relatives.
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Because the governments are supposed to go after all false religion first, so by going after the Watchtower first, and at the same time still funding other religions, the governments null and void that Watchtower prophecy. The Watchtower leaders somehow think that the governments should help to uphold Watchtower prophecy...
The definition of apostasy is violating Yahweh's laws & principles & encouraging others to follow in their course of conduct,such as Hymenaeus & Philetus at 2 Timothy 2:16-18 who were spreading that the resurrection had already happened. The Governing Body are apostates for telling the worldwide brotherhood to trust them implicitly,unquestionably where 24 scriptures clearly tells us NOT to trust any man or men for our spiritual guidance.They are fulfilling 2 Thessalonians 2:3&4 deep in these last days.
In terms of discrimination the JW's use both direct (ie shunning and Disfellowshipping) and indirect discrimination (using those in the cong under threat of disfellowshipping (think like subpoena, under penalty) based on ones religious or even non religious beliefs. The JW's really need to learn about (as do some governments) the presumption of innocence.
Jehovah's Moneychariot rider now has a begging bowl on hand, kneeling down and begging Norway for money!! The worst shame of this October month. Anthony Morris, sorry for any insomnia this may cause.
Romans CH13: This deals with honouring governments of the world as Jehovah has sanctioned them to govern / rule. Yes, they are God approved to rule the earth thus his worshippers M U S T subject themselves to the rule of earthly governments. Tight Pants Tony Morris et al take notice.
Far too long,,,,,, thanks for showing your complete contempt for these arseholes . Called the ORG, governing arseholes. Sorry bout the lingo. Nice to see ya back, Mikey!!!!
What I don’t understand is in relation to minors still having normal relationships in the family even though they’ve been removed. Say the minor is 11 or 12 and knows what they want they will still be forced to go to meetings, ministry etc because they can’t be left at home how is that normal???????
They’re chasing after the life they once knew they saw the money, and they made the decision to go. After the money they’re building on a new foundation, and they turn their back on Jehovah and Jesus and the angels and the preaching work and their families yada yada yada… that doesn’t mean they get to hold onto the judgment of other people you can’t have your cake and eat it too. You gotta choose one or the other and there’s no going back once you do.
Mike, I share your views and passion 100 per cent. . "because there is no god jehohah"...backing them (marker5:44-48) This organazation makes "Satan " (as they believe) look like a more "Loving" god" of course we know they are one and the same
In my opinion one of the serious consequences relating to shunning has not just been the shunning itself which was evil in its own right. It was the secondary trickle down effect on all of the conduct of the JW's. it caused firstly elders and those who had got some form of "power" to adopt a hard line attitiude generally. From my own personal observations and experience, scolding over anything they considered they wanted to point out irrespective whether it was religious or their personal opinion was persued with the same aggressive attiude. calling you to back room meetings. the large part of these self righteous ones felt no resraint in pointing out any shortfall they perceived. They would do this when it was none of their business which was most of the time. I consider this adjustment will not improve the general attitude of the JW's. very little chace of Kim and Mikey getting into any good books. or any of us that are not considered good association even if we have not done anything that can be pointed to except not going to the meetings etc.
Watchtower, having kept their members out of the New Covenant and locked in to a works based faith, is responsible for this bombastic spirit of self-righteousness and finger-pointing. Noisey, clashing cymbals, empty.
Where is the edification? What is the edification? How are they edifying themselves or even strangers who walk off the streets on their meetings I don’t see it.
Don't be fooled, nothing has changed. I was contacted after 19 years, 1st and the only time in 19 years. I didn't asked to. Then, after we spoke and chat a little, I was blocked by that nice human elder. And you know what, I have a house about 250mm away from the KH and nobody ever contacted me. It is the money they want. This happened 17.01.2025 and 18.01.2025 blocked. It will be another trial in February.
Links: (English letter) drive.google.com/file/d/1tN2fDb7uo7tA-1rTEMkVV2tW5QsCZCu9/view
Norwegian Letter) drive.google.com/file/d/1ihNk9G7rDfP0XrZtnCI8GkPjmDT_cHII/view
Tweets x.com/jfnilsen/status/1852315176051056848
Jehovah's standards never change, except when 'his earthly organization' is loosing cash!
They have no standards. Its all a facade, an appearance but the religion itself is rotten to the very core
Watchtower makes me sick to my stomach. They cry about their religious freedom being violated, but it doesn't apply to the members that don't have a choice to make their own choices in their own lives.
Watchtower: The Whore of Babylon
And wild beasts
If watchtower's behaviour isn't 'harlotry' then what is?
Shunning is one of the worst forms of abuse
It's basically a form of stoning! They would not be able to get away with stoning, so they shun.
@simonjusticier333 It's solitary confinement, considering you've had NO relationships outside of the org.
@@simonjusticier333so we better find a way to expose them even more because if they get their way they will eventually get away with it. They already get away with legalized murder through the blood policy. They have to make human sacrifices to the demonic deity called Jehovah. Yes people do the research on the type of deity this god actually is
I believe it!! My husband is df’d! They came to us for an our follow up meeting. My husband asked them some questions about some scripture. Instead of answering the questions they asked us if we believe in what the governing body teaches. When we said no, Meeting was over! Been 2 years! Wish they would come back, I got some more questions! 🤣
Isn't that amazing. They didn't ask if one still believes in god, 🤔 but rather, if one's beliefs are that god is using the Governing Body of the JW's to speak to his people?
Christ Jesus is the only mediator between God and His people.
No, jeebus ain't. You have the shovel, dig deeper.....@@smy74
It's funny tor that God showed mother that we all go to heaven even her twin sister who was a life long atheist and yet Jehovah never told the GB. He trusted Mom over them. You have to laugh
@@RebeccadeWinter-t1c uum, Wait! What!?
Who is mother?
Are you talking about he ORG?
Who is the life long twin atheist?
I'm so confused 🤔
Soo... the "Organisation" has rights in Norway 💰💰💰, but individual JWs do NOT. 😡😡😡
For the WT, it’s always been about the $$$.
He speaks about religious freedom, what a hypocrite. Religious freedom should include freedom to leave without penalties. You are shunned if you don't agree with the GB's rules and teachings.
Because the ones who are awake are a liability to their “business fund” long as you keep the people in blindness/darkness unawares they’ll keep pouring into the business and building it up. Look at how they had all of us being volunteers for so long willingly cleaning, and building and slaving FOR MF FREE!!
My thoughts exactly!!!
They have always been hypocrites, and will continue to get worse and thats because the rank and file are hypocrites, not all of them but I can say for sure the vast majority of them are, thats why they dont care what watchtower changes they will continue with the religious bs because they care about appearances, status and all the crap that goes on.
Please Satan's world, can we have some of your money🥺
I think everyone who has ever been associated with wt should write letters to Norway because we all know they haven't changed anything
It is a word game with terminology, that the WT is playing. They are putting the focus on terms such as "disfellowshipping," "removed" and "voluntary leaving" instead of the pertinent tragedy, namely "shunning." That letter is a piece of intellectual rubbish. When a policy as this is changed, it should be done ceremonially, published on many or all available platforms/outlets, implemented for a reasonable period of time to be assured of its success. A government agency would be expecting this kind of progression and may even randomly verify that the procedure is not simply a subterfuge. That letter is a gargled knot of tangled (and meaningless) processes that is side-stepping the issue of shunning people, who simply want out of a high-control group.
Precepts of men. They gonna keep changing their rules because they are not of God.
@10:04 I got disfellowshipped and never had a meeting. I told the elder I no longer trusted the governing body because I felt like they were being dishonest with us about A LOT of things. And the elder wanted to meet with me. And I said there’s nothing to talk about. I want to serve the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And the following meeting it was announced that I was no longer a JW. Only reason I knew that is because someone reached out to me about the announcement.
After exposing the sham "judicial committee" that unexpectedly DF'd me 3 years ago, I appealed to the New York HQ service department to reprove and remove these elders, and reinstate me; for the love of my family and grandchildren that they were holding hostage. I told these hypocrites to reach down and find their balls, to stand up and reprove those who wrote the elder's manual ; including any governing body member who approved these policies! I asked them, "Will you find the courage to stand up for Jehovah's standards and the love and direction of our congregation head; Jesus Christ? Or will you cowardly withdraw and obey "men as rulers rather than God." (Acts 5: 29) I told them emphatically that I would serve Jehovah WITH OR WITHOUT AN ORGANIZATION CLAIMING TO BE "HIS WITNESSES"! Only lookout that you don't "become fighters against God!" Read the account of the persecution of the apostles and the response of Gamaliel; a law teacher, who warned the jews about what happens to those who start a movement that HAS God's backing; and those who start a movement WITHOUT God's backing at Acts 5: 33-39!! )
Watchtower: we changed our policies.
Norway: hmmm.
Watchtower: Show me the money!
Can i just summarise the letter fir everyone : "Please Norway Government, we've made some very minor adjustments to our man made rules, so can we have our money back please, pretty please ?"
The money issue is negligible for an organization with WT assets.
It’s more dangerous to allow any country to set legal precedence that may be the basis for other countries to follow.
JW Org LOVE money from the wicked governments. They forget "other religious organizations", and do not cut their loved ones off and throw them to the wolves.
Thank you both! ❤
The Chariot moves in mysterious ways 😅
😂 so true😂
The chariots wheels are wobbling and about to fall off. 💥 😮 🙏
Yes pray you villians !!
Jehovahs chariot:🛒
Is this because of Religious Freedom Foundation there in Norway? The US has this agency too. I wonder if WT JW will change. Also active JW have the Semmesweis Reflex combined with the viewing scriptures their way or doctrine
Side note Serene Williams,new JW runs a modeling fashion company and on cover of Essence magazine this month. Umm when very rich JW can do what want
This is The FIRST STEP to no more disfellowshipping .
my husband was ex communicated for a year. Then when he committed suicide, I learned he was about to be reinstated the following week. His mother had been told not to even pray for him when he was suffering depression.
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So Jehovah's Witnesses are "softening" their shunning policy? To the Watchtower Society's Governing Body, I would say "That is not enough to suit me!!!. Your unjust shunning policy should be ABOLISHED completely!!". That is what I would tell that corrupt sham of a religion. Otherwise, they can just get lost for all I care! Thank you, Kim and Mikey, for this latest update on Jehovah's Witnesses.
How do we older ones handle this? I'm not even old but I sure as heck feel old... I feel old because I was raised in a cult!!! AND being raised a 4th generation daughter in a doomsday cult does that dang it. Dang it I'm still bitterly angry Mike!!! For example, My parents are still married and in the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses. My father is a gifted self-taught left-handed guitarist. Think of Jimmy Hendrix mixed with a blues guitarist with grassroots storytelling folk lyrics! He's been a janitor. A phlebotomist. And now in his retirement age, he is living on not much of a pension and social security!! Thanks, Watchtower!! For improving my family's wealth!!! It's ok though. I'm raising my 5 children differently thankfully, but it took me so long to fully come out of my own cognizant dissonance. And what of my own tortured self???. I can sing. I really could sing a long time ago when I was 18 but at almost 18 I was disfellowshipped and literally kicked out of my house! I dealt with becoming Dinah by smoking, drinking, traumatizing myself more and sadly some drug use. This lifestyle choice wasted much of my youthful energetic 20's and 30's . .My throat is tender now. I'm learning to baby it. Sooth it. Make better choices. To stop traumatizing my Self and my Temple.. Trying to slow way down on smoking. I make up my own kingdom song parodies. Me and my older girls. I'm growing younger from this point on! Sad for those still stuck. And that includes my mother who seems to be as stubborn and unmovable as both your mothers Kim and Mike. I just knew something happened within the organization this week!! My parents are in a congregation in one of the Kingdom Halls in Lafayette Indiana. They just had a special meeting at their local hall this past week.I wanted some legal advice from my mother who retired from working in the courthouse as a child support . I got permission from my dad to talk to my mom. She answered his phone to answer a question I had. Dad is civil. Friendly. My sad and sweet dad is excited for the kinder gentler changes no matter the reason and will be coming to his apostate disfellowshipped mentally diseased daughter's house from hours away to bring a few gifts to his grandkids soon. BUT MY MOTHER....so so frustrating. None of what I just typed matters one bit to Watchtower. Money. Power. Control. That is what matters to the corporation of The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Evil Pervo corrupt Elite women and men. The "other sheep" or "the great crowd" are controlled by JW extremist, government and hate-based corrupt people who spread and cultivate secret propaganda to infants, children, and the general public publishing organization also led by psychotic sick and the satanic child abusing women hating disgusting bible publishing business in the disguise of religion.
How much for the no blood doctrine?
I wonder if on occasion the societies attorneys feel like the actor Tom Cruise when he shouts in one of his movies ...." SHOW ME THE MONEY "......" SHOW ME THE FRICKEN MONEY "
Mikey, thanks for that rant! How are we going to repent this org’s adjustment😅😂All the JW old publications MUST be shown at courts!
So the only thing that really changed is that you can say hello to a df person. And you can invite them to the Hall. Other than that, no contact or socializing. That's not much of a change, hopefully not enough to make Norway change their stance.
Even if your in the same house.
Don't hold your breath waiting for an apology. They will never say sorry. They will loose all the money is they apologise
Your money for nothin
Your donations for free.
What a crock!
I love this channel. I been watching you guys for years. You guys are funny, 🤣🤣🤣
Watchtower allowed witnesses in Malawi to be SAed, cut by machete, had their private parts grinded and other torture; all because they would not own a political party card. But Watchtower changed its rules so it can get money from Norway. This is very disturbing to me.
"The overlapping apostacy" 😂
I laughed out loud when Mikey said "its all about the money even for the basement ministers! 😂😂
It all sounds very good BUT we are advised, and I quote, “we will use our bible based conscience to decide “ who’s the WE? WT? Or the brainwashed rank and file who cannot make their own decisions without being told what to think. I asked a friend if I left the org because of there was possibly a teaching that was not scriptural, would they still speak to me and the answer was no. So much for ones bible based conscience
soooooooo....again.....if what they have is the "truth"....they should not have to change anything or make any "adjustments " especially to get something (money) from the world.....which may I remind them, they want no part of!!
Yes, yes, yes. I always knew it was Norway, and i made a comment to that extent on another video.
Why would they worry about being funded by the government? They are separate from this world and believe God will provide? Jesus didn't expect to be funded by Caesar or get tax cuts. He said "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's". This is a money making racket and they don't care about any God at all.
Make no mistake….they are not separate from the world.
What happened to 'Jehovah will provide' so that the Watchtower would not need to use any worldly court system in order to get money from 'worldly governments'? The proof that the Watchtower was ''The Truth'' was that ''Jehovah provided'', and that ''God's Organisation'' was not in need of handouts from Satan's System!! Now, it seems that Jehovah is not providing, and the Watchtower is dependent on economical handouts from Satan's governments!
Everything about watchtower is vile.
Why do they care about the constitution?🤔
Exactly! The Watchtower's brazen hypocrisy, trying to exploit the constitution and the political leaders of a country by mentioning them, when the Watchtower has always been working against all countries, all constitutions and all political systems and leaders because it is all a part of Satan's System!!
I had a lady come a couple months ago I had her running, but I forgot to mention her in pants
🤑🤑🤑 is what the WTBTS really cares about...
$$$$ 😊
@@robertgrey6101$€¥£
Does the GB says the government will go after false religion first.
Exactly and that’s why they are coming after them first. They will change this as to saying they are being persecuted and suffering tribulation.
Religion and Politics make people stoopid, you two know that, lol. Thanks for the info guys.
Its all about the , all about the , money!!! 💰😂😂
Why are they begging for Satan's money
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They had a WT article a few years ago about satan's unrighteous riches (Money) But obviously WT doesn't mind taking that dirty money.
3:05 Theocratic-business-warfare. Sounds like WT learned from the best….the pharisees.🙄
you are so great 👌👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍and the watchtower, the governing body are so hypocritical, it's all extorted love that is practiced there and I think the judges in Oslo won't fall for their nonsense. thank you and kind regards from Germany🥰
What sticks out to me in that letter is that it says that the extent of the association we have with those that have been removed, is dependent on personal circumstances and personal conscience. That's not what the study article says in the August Watchtower.
"Ooooh they're threatening our freedom of religion." You mean 'freedom to discriminate and freedom to incite hatred?" Because that's what you're doing Watchtower! And your disfellowshipping policies rarely follow the spirit of the Christ; and reflect the forgiveness qualities that true Christians are to practice!! Effing hypocrites! I hope they arrest and imprison these governing body "impostors" and "real apostates"! The real Jehovah does not put his spirit on those who don't follow his commands and His example of love.
All about money? Is it fair to call it dirty money just as dirty as cartel money? It'll never sell tho.
Hello! Show me that million dollar welcome 🤗
12:12 yeah my parents said I could still live with them... until I turned 18, then to the streets you'd go! 😂
Isn’t there a way that ex members in Norway can let this court know that watchtower is playing word games just to get there money and that in actuality they are still shunning? All they have to do is ask the ex members if it’s true that watchtower has loosened this Policy or not, right? Doesn’t watchtower have to prove that they don’t do this anymore?
''..if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.'' - 1 Timothy 5:8
That scripture alone exposes the Watchtower as deniers of the True Faith, and show that they are worse than unbelievers every time that they shun and expel their own flesh and blood from their families and households, not just from the Watchtower congregations of non-relatives.
Even God has a price ?? But I thought Jesus threw the moneylenders out of the temple ???
warriors you are!!!! Both of you!!!
The greater the dissonance that they create the further separation, they can create between them and so-called apostates
That did age well for ol 40oz Morris 😂🤣🤣🤣❗️❗️
The Paradise Earth fantasy 😮
GREAT JOB GUYS!!! ALOHA FROM ALOHA,OREGON BRO AND SIS!! NAMASTE!! XOXO
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Why are they appealing if governments attacking is prophecy? Very interesting
Because the governments are supposed to go after all false religion first, so by going after the Watchtower first, and at the same time still funding other religions, the governments null and void that Watchtower prophecy. The Watchtower leaders somehow think that the governments should help to uphold Watchtower prophecy...
"overlapping apostacy". LOL
I reckon tithing will be slowly introduced into the organisation
The definition of apostasy is violating Yahweh's laws & principles & encouraging others to follow in their course of conduct,such as Hymenaeus & Philetus at 2 Timothy 2:16-18 who were spreading that the resurrection had already happened.
The Governing Body are apostates for telling the worldwide brotherhood to trust them implicitly,unquestionably where 24 scriptures clearly tells us NOT to trust any man or men for our spiritual guidance.They are fulfilling 2 Thessalonians 2:3&4 deep in these last days.
In terms of discrimination the JW's use both direct (ie shunning and Disfellowshipping) and indirect discrimination (using those in the cong under threat of disfellowshipping (think like subpoena, under penalty) based on ones religious or even non religious beliefs. The JW's really need to learn about (as do some governments) the presumption of innocence.
Love your passion in exposing the real " Truth"....
Mike has it down business move by JW's, for X amount of dollars they will change the two witness rule.
If they were God’s true organization, they would rejoice in the persecution from Satan’s world.
Jehovah's Moneychariot rider now has a begging bowl on hand, kneeling down and begging Norway for money!! The worst shame of this October month. Anthony Morris, sorry for any insomnia this may cause.
I knew it. Now I have evidence.
What scripture was Mikey referring to at the start.
Romans CH13: This deals with honouring governments of the world as Jehovah has sanctioned them to govern / rule.
Yes, they are God approved to rule the earth thus his worshippers M U S T subject themselves to the rule of earthly governments.
Tight Pants Tony Morris et al take notice.
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Far too long,,,,,, thanks for showing your complete contempt for these arseholes . Called the ORG, governing arseholes. Sorry bout the lingo. Nice to see ya back, Mikey!!!!
What I don’t understand is in relation to minors still having normal relationships in the family even though they’ve been removed. Say the minor is 11 or 12 and knows what they want they will still be forced to go to meetings, ministry etc because they can’t be left at home how is that normal???????
They’re chasing after the life they once knew they saw the money, and they made the decision to go. After the money they’re building on a new foundation, and they turn their back on Jehovah and Jesus and the angels and the preaching work and their families yada yada yada… that doesn’t mean they get to hold onto the judgment of other people you can’t have your cake and eat it too. You gotta choose one or the other and there’s no going back once you do.
Mike, I share your views and passion 100 per cent. . "because there is no god jehohah"...backing them (marker5:44-48) This organazation makes "Satan " (as they believe) look like a more "Loving" god" of course we know they are one and the same
Bunch of …….
Um abraço, Kim Mickey 🥰🤗🥰 amamos vocês 😍🥰💕
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They removed Raymond franz cuz he didn’t agree with field service reporting and DF he just didn’t have a platform to speak on like Tony did
1:49 More like under the devil’s direction….right Mikey?
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In my opinion one of the serious consequences relating to shunning has not just been the shunning itself which was evil in its own right. It was the secondary trickle down effect on all of the conduct of the JW's. it caused firstly elders and those who had got some form of "power" to adopt a hard line attitiude generally. From my own personal observations and experience, scolding over anything they considered they wanted to point out irrespective whether it was religious or their personal opinion was persued with the same aggressive attiude. calling you to back room meetings.
the large part of these self righteous ones felt no resraint in pointing out any shortfall they perceived. They would do this when it was none of their business which was most of the time.
I consider this adjustment will not improve the general attitude of the JW's. very little chace of Kim and Mikey getting into any good books. or any of us that are not considered good association even if we have not done anything that can be pointed to except not going to the meetings etc.
Watchtower, having kept their members out of the New Covenant and locked in to a works based faith, is responsible for this bombastic spirit of self-righteousness and finger-pointing. Noisey, clashing cymbals, empty.
Love your videos👏👏👏
Thank you Kim& Mikey❤ But what about us? I'm poor apostate 😢😅😅😂
Your comments in this video are excellent . Who use brain will see how manipulative is Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Where is the edification? What is the edification? How are they edifying themselves or even strangers who walk off the streets on their meetings I don’t see it.
Watchtower bring back Anthony Morris. 😂😂😂
Don't be fooled, nothing has changed. I was contacted after 19 years, 1st and the only time in 19 years. I didn't asked to. Then, after we spoke and chat a little, I was blocked by that nice human elder. And you know what, I have a house about 250mm away from the KH and nobody ever contacted me. It is the money they want. This happened 17.01.2025 and 18.01.2025 blocked. It will be another trial in February.
I don't think it's about the money. Whatever they get from Norway is a pittance. It's all about the optics.
I wonder why the letter, hasn't the watchtower letter head.
The original does. Click on the link to the Norwegan one. I had the translated one
Because it is the got translated version.
Hi the Watchtower says I say Hi
Will WatchTower ex-JWs fall out of making RUclips videos because of the new overlapping apostasy?
0:55 Hopefully, you are wrong Mikey. I think people are waking up and leaving…maybe even big time, for whatever reason. I am one, since 2020.
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overlapping apostacy LOL