Am a bit of a newb. But getting back into the gaming scene with my son. I'd like to ask what monitor you would recommend and / or TV. I'd like to dock it to our living room TV..... Thanks for your content, broski.
Probably the company like Asus ROG they probably knew they didn’t trust you so probably you got sued knowing you got yourself in trouble knowing you show the FPS counter so that’s how the customers know they’re not gonna buy it so basically you probably ruined it for me. I saw the FPS Connor I know, but I probably cannot show more information about it some people solid and some people didn’t solid.
@@xrpkidotec520 bro it’s not a TV it’s a gaming modern and that dog is using is the EGPU basically he’s using external gaming, modern or plug-in directly to one XGPU you make me laugh. Hey it was a mistake.😂
@Russiangamerpro2021 Yeah, I know it's a gaming modern. My question was, can it be used on a TV. I'd prefer to set it up on a smart TV if possible instead of a monitor or modern. Can't that device we used on a TV as well. Jeez, how doesn't the question make sense.
I still love my Rog ally, if I used it more I’d be inclined to get the X but I don’t it’s just a if I fancy playing outside the computer room in the house kinda thing
bro there is MOD to your current ally, just change 16 to 32gb of ram and you have more powerfull than this 24 gb of ram, of course there is less battery but if u use it docked....
Great video but I prefer larger GPUs. Can you test a 4070 super vs other mid or lower end 40 series gpus to see which one to get. Don’t wanna get one that will get bottlenecked and over spend
@@salvatorepanissidi there would be no reason to put anything higher than a RTX 4060 some even say a 3060. That’s because USB C 4 only runs at 4x and that causes a bottleneck.
I would love to see in the next video thatt you are using a rtx 4080. Would be nice to see if a handheld can replace a high-end desktop. And please show high fps games like cs, cod, etc and some games like cyberpunk in 4k.
I would like to see that too. Exactly how bandwidth limits look on something like an RTX 4080. I think with 4080 level performance, you're probably better waiting for USB 4.2 device in a year or so (double the bandwidth of 4.0)
@@Patrick-y4d1z I think I will wait until they release a handheld with pci 5.0. would mean you could use a nvme to oculinik adapter or even have a native oculink port, which would be the same spped as pcie 4.0 x8 / pcie 3.0 x16
Windows needs to make a version of Windows 11 that supports these devices with an interface. Having full blown Windows 11 on these makes it feel jank imo. Even when you are spending over a grand, you're still over here moving the mouse cursor with a joystick or tapping on stuff you can barely see to navigate. It doesn't need everything W11 comes with and you could just add "Desktop Mode" as a setting in the interface menu if you need to browse the web or download files. I honestly would prefer an AMD powered system in this form factor, just to have to option of running SteamOS Linux distros. I run Windows on my main system for the benefits, but I wouldn't want to deal with any of that on these. I just want to turn it on and pick a game. That's why the Steam Deck is still the best imo.
Closest I can do is install LTSC on my Ally because my Steam Deck OLED failed the Fortnite test (Anti-cheats hate Linux unless they switch it on to work for Linux.) :(
You can use the touch screen. I have no problem seeing things on the screen, I run everything at 720. No issues using the analog for the mouse either. You can just use steam big picture if it's that hard to see. This was designed for gaming first above using it as a PC
It’s really easy to make windows 11 as the backend pc mode while have an Xbox like launcher as the default boot frontend but Microsoft is purposely saving it for there dedicated hardware first I believe
OMG Stop recommending and reviewing things that are so overpriced! If You were to spend as much money as You did on the Ally X and external GPU you could get a SUPREMELY good gaming Laptop! Seriously! Start narrowing your reviews down to things that are a good value for money. Your last 10 or so products have been GROSSLY overpriced pieces of niche gear that only your local millionaire would conceivably buy.
Could you make a tutorial on how you installed the drivers for egpu? Im still struggeling a little with my Legion Go + Onexgpu. Had to install the 780m drivers. Would be better with the Z1 Extreme drivers tbh
I pre-ordered mine already, im buying the egpu, too. I get some people can just build a gaming PC for the same price, but try throwing a PC in a backpack for on the go.😂
I think the eGPU doesn't make a lot of sense for gaming handhelds. You already paid $800 for the ROG Ally X, okay performance for docked and on the go gaming, but then you want to spend another $700 for an eGPU? If this is your primary PC, then it can be justified, but if you have a desktop or laptop, most likely no. I don't imagine many users using the ROG Ally as their only computer.
The main problem with these devices and peripherals is that they cost so much more than they ought to. That eGPU contains a $235 GPU that’s power-limited and performs worse than its’ desktop counterpart. It costs what? $800?. The Ally X has the same overall components and screen as the original Ally (but they fixed the sd-card issue) and gave it 8gb more, and very-slightly-faster RAM.. for $799? For 5% better gaming performance, a black shell, different back buttons, and a functional sd-card-slot. I can go to my local Best Buy and get an OG Ally open-box for $350 and it’s going to perform within 5% of the X for almost 1/3rd the price. Utterly overpriced and ridiculous. Even if I like the product I can’t justify the price.
The GPU wasn't power limited in this case - we saw it hit 99% benchmarks in almost every test. Regarding pricing, you're comparing an old open-boxed model to a newly launched model. Of course it's more expensive. This time next year, the Ally X 2 will come out at £800, and the Ally X will be like £400 opn boxed. The actual price of the Ally was £700. So for the extra £100, you get USB4 support, 2280 support, 8GB extra RAM, faster RAM and a 100% increase in battery life.
Hi ETA PRIME!, can you run VR on rog ally x? (connect quest 2/3 by cable), is it possible, or if you see fit, can you do a test?, I imagine the eGPU would be able though, just thinking of the ally x alone? (thinking of having a portable vr gaming on the go, also with steering wheel and all because i play racing vr) THANKS for any answers!!! Awesome content!!, have a nice day1
Hey I have a rog ally z1 extreme had a quest 2 and played asseto corsa on damn near very low settings and got roughly 55-76 fps VR chat I got 19-34 fps but tons of stutters that made it too sickening I'm hoping the extra ram set the mark tho ❤
Did you experience any issues with the Z1 extreme display drivers after connecting to the egpu? On the Legion go, you needed to install the 7840u drivers for it to work correctly while connected to the oneXgpu and in handheld mode afterward.
Agree, however, Asus refuses to release anything else beside the 4090 Laptop eGPU so them making the X with USB 4 is a good call. If they used the RTX 40 Laptop GPU line up in the XG Mobile, or used AMD, RX 6000 and 7000 Mobile series, I would fully agree with you.
The X will probably take a beating. The XG Mobile port has about 50% more bandwidth than USB 4, which is why I am perplexed at Asus here. This is not an upgrade.
I got it working using a Legion Go video but the realtek drivers in the AMD download nuked my ability to pair bluetooth headphones . I hade to factory reset the whole thing to get my bluetooth earbuds to work. I wish this ETA Prime guy actually gave out specifics. @brandanwaldman198
yes! Installing the amd driver for egpu, then deinstall the amd driver for the internal one, and reinstall it. Then it should work @@brandanwaldman198
@@gridheader I bought an XG mobile on ebay that was listed as broken for parts for like 50+% off retail. Got it in and immediately sent it in for RMA. The day after I sent it, Gamers Nexus dropped their big Asus expose thing and my RMA got fast tracked and sent back with no issues. I'm sure they're still generally shit but lmao thank you GN for getting my RMA fast tracked
@@gridheaderI'm from Romania and we don't have this problem, but I still thinking is not worth, because you can find the old one (extreme)for around 400$,and the new one is 900$...
Please test some pci 3.0 card (rtx2060s) with sony (worst offenders in memory swap) titles to see how much of a bottleneck there is with the limited bandwith! To improve performance with those games you need to get textures to a lower presset and/or lower the resolution.
I bought the first ROG ally thinking i could cut my teeth on Pc gaming and then buy the external GPU for when i started using it for racing simulators. i haven't been able to get any of the modern racing games to work smoothly with even low settings while docked. The e GPUs were extremely expensive and even worse extremely difficult to find. Now they offer usb so those egpus will just totally be discontinued i presume. This is my first experience with Asus and I don't think i'd give them another shot on another device. Too bad, great concept
I bought a thunderbolt 4 cable that’s 6ft long from Amazon spent like 30$ and all my onexgpu does is blink. It works perfectly with the cable that was provided but won’t detect anything with the thunderbolt. Do you know why?
I really dont see the point of egpu videos. So here we can run elden ring on a smart watch by connecting it a gaming pc, whats the point? The whole point of a handheld is the native built in performance surely. We could hook up a 4090 to an old i386 and play doom on a 386 pc at 1875fps but its not really running it is it? Its the 4090 and so essentially you could fudge connect a high tier desktop gpu to literally anything and get better framerates. But why? Just buy a pc or gaming laptop :-0 Gather round to see Sekiro at 4k on a piece of fruit hooked up to a 4090 running at 214fps!!
Hey, do you mind providing details about the drivers used? I and a few others have an issue where once the drivers are side loaded it affects the ability to connect Bluetooth headphones and causes a blue screen. Thanks!
@@LemonRush7777 that's the only legitimate use case I can think of. getting one for a handheld? what's next, a belt clip and a battery backpack? walking around looking like a wannabe Ghostbusters. 😂
Lol i got asus laptop with their xg mobile output and there is usb4 type of hole in it and it was double use. And you could use it as usb-c, and in getting rid off it is actually downgrade cause now you just lost possibility of using their eGPU and only have usb-c option instead of their sollution AND usb-c
I'm very interested in this setup, could you test with a RTX 2070 super or similar, if the perfomance is good I will consider this, also if you could test also productiviy tools like 3d renders or video editing, that would be great.
snagged a similar sale on an ally. Can we talk about how amazing of a device these things are?! AMD is making some incredible tech. I mean... 60 fps triple-A gaming on 29 watts doesn't sound real!
@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 what are you saying the legion go and ally have a far more powerful chip and run windows, steam deck gets 2 - 8 hours about 1 - 6 (same with the go) we should have more battery than the steam deck on the ally x
WOULD NOT RECCOMMEND THIS COMBO !!! I did this with the Legion go and onexgpu. Too many steps to set it up and even to update your drivers. you would have to uninstall each driver and reinstall them all over again. Sometime the drivers would be even pop up or the egpu would not work correctly with the external monitor. I would wait until it becomes easier or until the just make one whole device with the gpu inside.
onexgpu is designed specifically for the onexplayers, any other second hand devices will have problems. to avoid this problem, you need to get the onexplayer pro 2 cause thats what i have with the onexgpu and its working perfectly, once you see everything on ultra settings especially red dead redemption 2 you will be mind blown and i don't use a external display just the onexplayer pro 2 8.4in screen
I agree. I have it and it's the same configuration and its pretty finnicky. It disconnects when the go reaches certain temperatures. And it took a while for me to sideload the drivers. I don't recommend it now in its current state. I feel like I spent 800 bucks on broken and incomplete tech.
@neilbechem6663 I feel ya, wish it an easy plug and play. This way, you don't have to worry about installing two different drivers and worry about having to uninstall them just to updated them. Definitely in the beginning stages.
Hey prime is it possible you can do a step by step video on that same epgu @ rog ally setup i just bought the onex egpu last week and pre-ordered the rog ally c
@marcgtsr no its not, ive got the onexplayer pro 2 and the same gpu and i play red dead redemption 2 on ultra settings and runs smoothly on the onexplayer pro 2 screen, yes you can play without the external display with no problem
@@draco2xx It will run slower, I did not say that it would run badly necessarily. The video data has to go back through the same connection and it will pass by the iGPU. So you lose some fps and it has a increased latency.
good to see that handhelds are getting better and better. I still wait for more ram as I use quite lot video editing as well but as soon as they will get into the 32+ ballpark, I'll really consider to replace a laptop to a smaller and even more portable device.
@@robertsmith20022 yeah I also checked OneXPlayers, but smething was always off for me... either the design or the power... this x1 is too big for me as handheld
Adding an external GPU defies the purpose of a portable gaming handheld. If you need all of these connections and weight and and still have to add keyboard and mouse, just buy a gaming laptop.
you do have a point, but when it comes to AAA games you will need egpu. pc handhelds by themselves arent that powerful yet without the egpu. ill say in a few years we'll get there but in the meantime egpu is the way to go
You completely misunderstand. You take the handheld out with you to play on the go, then dock it when you get home. A gaming laptop can't really play on the go, so it's not comparable.
@@Patrick-y4d1z on the go playing is something I wasn't considering, you're right. I was more focused on what such a handheld could replace and for what price.
...i wonder if its possible for Asus to release an XGmobile without the built in GPU (barebone/ with PSU)... where the end user can use their own GPU...? are there any Teardown of XGmobile...?
lmao if want play ultra settings smooth 60fps+ play on desktop high-end pc, for portable play in any windows handheld pc play on rog ally or upcoming lunar lake msi claw, if want linux then the deck but you still need tweak a lot, but if want play easly like "just turn on and play" get a switch which is a console simple as that.
I have a GTX 4070 laptop and I still want this. It ain't the same experience. You can't game on your laptop in bed and then in the living room and then easily out.
Running an egpu with an RX7900XTX. Performance is nice. Can´t compare with oculink though. But.....usb issues. Keyboard is lagging/sticking from time to time. Had everything hooked up to the egpu at first and then I had glitching sound as well as this. Now I use all periferals in the second usbc port. Irritating as hell! Can´t seem to find a solution. Tried 2 different keyboards. Disabled the powersaving mode on the USB but to no avail....HALP :(
Z1 Extreme isnt meant to be used beyond 1080p. The L3 Cache is 16mb which half of a older Ryzen 7 7700X which has 32mb L3 Cache. L3 Cache and 3D Cache are for games (textures/video). The Z1 Extreme lose vs a old Ryzen 7 5800X3D in games with higher resolution and quality settings.
They increased the price for Rog Ally x with 300$ while keeping the original ally at full price here in Norway. What a joke, it is not worth 1100$. The 2023 version have been on sale for 600 - 700$ several times already so Rog Ally X is definitely not worth it here.
I love my OG Ally it’s incredible for the price but I find this embargo comical. Asus if it performs great it will sell, if it doesn’t it won’t justify the upgrade. All handheld PCs already have insanely high return rates so I must be missing something about the embargo, like preorders and cash flow up front or something
Rog Ally z1 basic on Moye Connect Usb hub with 87w pd has only 25w performance mode with original charger only was 30w tdp but than only with an external graphics 30w and up will be reached ... only a original dock would help like steam decks....
This is an expensive set up for what you get. I literally just sold my ally for$550 and got a lenovo loq laptop for $650 open box with a ryzen 7 7840HS and 4060 with 8gb ram and 512gb. But i upgraded the ram to 32gb and 1tb with the extra slot that it had inside.
Just bought this for my rog ally x. I have tried everything. Reinstalled drivers. Turned off all USB auto shutoff settings. Restarted. Downloaded updates. Different cables. I can't run any game. It just goes at 1 fps
Somehow, he changed the video to know he basically blur the video of him blocking the FPS counter, which is from me. I’m the only person probably solid or everyone so the FPS counter is not blurred so somehow he accidentally done this on purpose and the excelling knew he didn’t trust him because he got sued.
It does not surprise me that the PS titles did not like the eGPU configuration. They were designed for console in mind only originally and so they are used to custome and much more advanced APUs. Tunneling over PCIe was something it was not optimised for, especially at 4x
Coming from someone that bought XG Mobile 4090 I have to say this isn’t worth it. I would love to see a comparison to a eGPU using a desktop 4090 through Thunderbolt 4.
I would like to see when is came out on July 22 you should try rog ally x with egpu 4090 gpu thunderbolt post it video I can’t buy it yet because I would like to see how are they game run at fps
ok how are you useing an egpu through usb4 on a ryzen cpu? I thought AMD couldn't do egpus over usb4, could someone do the same thing with the new ryzen 7000 framework laptop with usb4?
I'd wish there was a way for the OG Ally owners to hook up an external eGPU with a XG Adapter or something. I don't want to upgrade now, as i bought the Ally just a few months ago :(
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Unfortunately It ssems I was not allowed to show off FPS performance yet due to embargo so I had to blur the FPS
Please test a variety of GPUs in an eGPU dock with the Ally X (to show bandwidth scaling) - it's so hard to find any reliable data of it.
Am a bit of a newb. But getting back into the gaming scene with my son.
I'd like to ask what monitor you would recommend and / or TV. I'd like to dock it to our living room TV.....
Thanks for your content, broski.
Probably the company like Asus ROG they probably knew they didn’t trust you so probably you got sued knowing you got yourself in trouble knowing you show the FPS counter so that’s how the customers know they’re not gonna buy it so basically you probably ruined it for me. I saw the FPS Connor I know, but I probably cannot show more information about it some people solid and some people didn’t solid.
@@xrpkidotec520 bro it’s not a TV it’s a gaming modern and that dog is using is the EGPU basically he’s using external gaming, modern or plug-in directly to one XGPU you make me laugh. Hey it was a mistake.😂
@Russiangamerpro2021 Yeah, I know it's a gaming modern. My question was, can it be used on a TV. I'd prefer to set it up on a smart TV if possible instead of a monitor or modern.
Can't that device we used on a TV as well. Jeez, how doesn't the question make sense.
I still love my Rog ally, if I used it more I’d be inclined to get the X but I don’t it’s just a if I fancy playing outside the computer room in the house kinda thing
bro there is MOD to your current ally, just change 16 to 32gb of ram and you have more powerfull than this 24 gb of ram, of course there is less battery but if u use it docked....
Doesnt passing the dGPU's display signal back to the Ally's screen reduce performance? Why not just have the display off?
Is there any egpu that can perform close to the Xg mobile 4090
For less the price
The author has sold his ass off to sponsors. He will never tell you the truth.
just stream it thats what i do with my steam deck i use ps5 remote play for AAA games....but i run emulation and small indie games directly
Great video - your audio is always low
Can you compare the OG Ally with XG mobile vs Ally X with EGPU? Will be interesting to see the performance difference, great work btw 👌
there will be no difference cuz they are mostly the same
I have a 120hz TV that also does VRR and 4K. Will it work with this handheld? Playing in 4K I mean.
Great video but I prefer larger GPUs. Can you test a 4070 super vs other mid or lower end 40 series gpus to see which one to get. Don’t wanna get one that will get bottlenecked and over spend
rtx 4070 ti super egpu please, with cyberpunk and Forbidden west 4k test
Lol it'll run it.
I want to see that too because the GPU was at 99% in every benchmark really, so not showing what the USB4 is capable of.
@@salvatorepanissidi there would be no reason to put anything higher than a RTX 4060 some even say a 3060. That’s because USB C 4 only runs at 4x and that causes a bottleneck.
I would love to see in the next video thatt you are using a rtx 4080. Would be nice to see if a handheld can replace a high-end desktop. And please show high fps games like cs, cod, etc and some games like cyberpunk in 4k.
I would like to see that too. Exactly how bandwidth limits look on something like an RTX 4080.
I think with 4080 level performance, you're probably better waiting for USB 4.2 device in a year or so (double the bandwidth of 4.0)
@@Patrick-y4d1z I think I will wait until they release a handheld with pci 5.0. would mean you could use a nvme to oculinik adapter or even have a native oculink port, which would be the same spped as pcie 4.0 x8 / pcie 3.0 x16
Unfortunately USB is the limiting factor. Oculink does a bit better but hopefully the next gen thunderbolt will have faster transfers
@@JADC1111
It's more that people want to see how much of a limiting factor it is.
@@Patrick-y4d1z From my understanding the fastest eGPU without bottleneck using TB4 is around a 3070. With oculink it’s closer to a 4080.
Black Friday 649 and I’m sold 😂
I’m gonna put some money aside in case this happens 😅
If that happens then ill pick one up. The steam deck has been good to me. But sometimes running Linux can be a headache to get some games running
I wouldn't think black friday but christmas definately
I got a used Ally 1 at Bestbuy for $350 Ally X is not gonna beat my price 😂
another one comes out every summer tho it's the same cycle lol. I'm waiting til next gen, my OG ally is solid.
Windows needs to make a version of Windows 11 that supports these devices with an interface. Having full blown Windows 11 on these makes it feel jank imo. Even when you are spending over a grand, you're still over here moving the mouse cursor with a joystick or tapping on stuff you can barely see to navigate. It doesn't need everything W11 comes with and you could just add "Desktop Mode" as a setting in the interface menu if you need to browse the web or download files. I honestly would prefer an AMD powered system in this form factor, just to have to option of running SteamOS Linux distros. I run Windows on my main system for the benefits, but I wouldn't want to deal with any of that on these. I just want to turn it on and pick a game. That's why the Steam Deck is still the best imo.
Would be really interested in seeing the original Ally and XGM comparison with this
They should at least come out with a windows 8-like update for handhelds once their xbox console drops
Closest I can do is install LTSC on my Ally because my Steam Deck OLED failed the Fortnite test (Anti-cheats hate Linux unless they switch it on to work for Linux.) :(
You can use the touch screen. I have no problem seeing things on the screen, I run everything at 720. No issues using the analog for the mouse either. You can just use steam big picture if it's that hard to see. This was designed for gaming first above using it as a PC
It’s really easy to make windows 11 as the backend pc mode while have an Xbox like launcher as the default boot frontend but Microsoft is purposely saving it for there dedicated hardware first I believe
Hi i want to know if is possible to play in 4k whit razer chroma whit a 4070 or 4080 rtx? Thanks
We are gonna be bankrupt with this one😂
I am waiting for 890m apu next generation
YES
It’s coming
With a Steam Deck 2 please :)
Thats what most rog ally owners think.
The first rog ally is all ready powerful enough for any AAA game. Why do you need more than that??
OMG Stop recommending and reviewing things that are so overpriced! If You were to spend as much money as You did on the Ally X and external GPU you could get a SUPREMELY good gaming Laptop! Seriously! Start narrowing your reviews down to things that are a good value for money. Your last 10 or so products have been GROSSLY overpriced pieces of niche gear that only your local millionaire would conceivably buy.
Could you make a tutorial on how you installed the drivers for egpu? Im still struggeling a little with my Legion Go + Onexgpu. Had to install the 780m drivers. Would be better with the Z1 Extreme drivers tbh
I pre-ordered mine already, im buying the egpu, too. I get some people can just build a gaming PC for the same price, but try throwing a PC in a backpack for on the go.😂
Same, but i might do the GPD g1 instead
Imagine throwing a laptop in a backpack. About the same weight less weight. Do like this for home use to quick swap kind of like a switch
I think the eGPU doesn't make a lot of sense for gaming handhelds. You already paid $800 for the ROG Ally X, okay performance for docked and on the go gaming, but then you want to spend another $700 for an eGPU?
If this is your primary PC, then it can be justified, but if you have a desktop or laptop, most likely no. I don't imagine many users using the ROG Ally as their only computer.
2nd this, $1500 could give a decent gaming PC even complete with peripherals
You are right, I made this mistake and at the end of the day i trade it both for a gaming laptop. Too many hiccups and driver issues.
😂
@@nahrafe1500 for decent is insane for 1500 that pc better transform into Optimus Prime
some people just prefer the "plug and play" nature to it
Great video. What's the benchmark embargo end date?!?!?
Usually the day of launch
I think it would be nice if Asus sold a new adapter that allowed the proprietary port in the original Ally to be used with an external eGPU.
Waiting for high end emulation video of the Ally X
Wasn't it already good on the regular ally?
@@SplendidNinja
This one has 24 gigs of RAM and different cooling so just curious
The main problem with these devices and peripherals is that they cost so much more than they ought to.
That eGPU contains a $235 GPU that’s power-limited and performs worse than its’ desktop counterpart. It costs what? $800?.
The Ally X has the same overall components and screen as the original Ally (but they fixed the sd-card issue) and gave it 8gb more, and very-slightly-faster RAM.. for $799? For 5% better gaming performance, a black shell, different back buttons, and a functional sd-card-slot. I can go to my local Best Buy and get an OG Ally open-box for $350 and it’s going to perform within 5% of the X for almost 1/3rd the price.
Utterly overpriced and ridiculous. Even if I like the product I can’t justify the price.
The GPU wasn't power limited in this case - we saw it hit 99% benchmarks in almost every test.
Regarding pricing, you're comparing an old open-boxed model to a newly launched model. Of course it's more expensive. This time next year, the Ally X 2 will come out at £800, and the Ally X will be like £400 opn boxed.
The actual price of the Ally was £700. So for the extra £100, you get USB4 support, 2280 support, 8GB extra RAM, faster RAM and a 100% increase in battery life.
Hi ETA PRIME!, can you run VR on rog ally x? (connect quest 2/3 by cable), is it possible, or if you see fit, can you do a test?, I imagine the eGPU would be able though, just thinking of the ally x alone? (thinking of having a portable vr gaming on the go, also with steering wheel and all because i play racing vr) THANKS for any answers!!! Awesome content!!, have a nice day1
Let me tell you without testing, no
Absolutely not. 2 2K+ displays running at over 70fps is way too demanding for most games.
You could but will it be a good experience?
Hey I have a rog ally z1 extreme had a quest 2 and played asseto corsa on damn near very low settings and got roughly 55-76 fps VR chat I got 19-34 fps but tons of stutters that made it too sickening I'm hoping the extra ram set the mark tho ❤
@@maxlu2456 Primitive games like Beat Saber and Superhot will play just fine.
Bruh just buy a pc at that point. Stop promoting this crap
Did you experience any issues with the Z1 extreme display drivers after connecting to the egpu? On the Legion go, you needed to install the 7840u drivers for it to work correctly while connected to the oneXgpu and in handheld mode afterward.
are you daft? their egpu port had more ebandwidth than tb4 , it was way more superior than this , this is a downgrade
Agree, however, Asus refuses to release anything else beside the 4090 Laptop eGPU so them making the X with USB 4 is a good call. If they used the RTX 40 Laptop GPU line up in the XG Mobile, or used AMD, RX 6000 and 7000 Mobile series, I would fully agree with you.
OG Ally Z1E + XG Mobile 4090 vs Ally X + 4090 EGPU please?
The X will probably take a beating. The XG Mobile port has about 50% more bandwidth than USB 4, which is why I am perplexed at Asus here. This is not an upgrade.
Can you do a tutorial for installation this egpu? I am so lost. Amd isn't working, onexgpu isn't worling. Idk what to do
@@GamerDan89 are u having trouble connecting to external monitor too? I got the ally x and onexgpu wit a asus monitor that won’t display anything
I got it working using a Legion Go video but the realtek drivers in the AMD download nuked my ability to pair bluetooth headphones . I hade to factory reset the whole thing to get my bluetooth earbuds to work. I wish this ETA Prime guy actually gave out specifics. @brandanwaldman198
Same with me.. do you have solution?
yes! Installing the amd driver for egpu, then deinstall the amd driver for the internal one, and reinstall it. Then it should work @@brandanwaldman198
Anyone else having sound issues when you mess with settings in game with the onexgpu?
Not worth it if they're not going to let people send it in to get fixed if it breaks which it probably will because they don't care to make them last
Not worth it.
Especially with the way they treat their RMA customers
@@gridheader I bought an XG mobile on ebay that was listed as broken for parts for like 50+% off retail. Got it in and immediately sent it in for RMA. The day after I sent it, Gamers Nexus dropped their big Asus expose thing and my RMA got fast tracked and sent back with no issues. I'm sure they're still generally shit but lmao thank you GN for getting my RMA fast tracked
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Just because you can’t afford it 😂 it’s a great device, rma this and that lol buy with a store warranty if that’s a concern 🤷♂️
@@gridheaderI'm from Romania and we don't have this problem, but I still thinking is not worth, because you can find the old one (extreme)for around 400$,and the new one is 900$...
XG Mobile 4090 still the best!!
Please test some pci 3.0 card (rtx2060s) with sony (worst offenders in memory swap) titles to see how much of a bottleneck there is with the limited bandwith! To improve performance with those games you need to get textures to a lower presset and/or lower the resolution.
Also with be great to see a frametime graph in the overlay, this way is easier to spot stutters and be shure is not some youtube playback issue.
I bought the first ROG ally thinking i could cut my teeth on Pc gaming and then buy the external GPU for when i started using it for racing simulators. i haven't been able to get any of the modern racing games to work smoothly with even low settings while docked. The e GPUs were extremely expensive and even worse extremely difficult to find. Now they offer usb so those egpus will just totally be discontinued i presume. This is my first experience with Asus and I don't think i'd give them another shot on another device. Too bad, great concept
Ally X is now Releas, can you update the FPS now?
If u ever have time can you try NBA2k25? That’s really the only game I play. I’m wondering if it can reach near pS5 quality
fps, killed it for me. Getting 240 for rocket league would mean it could actually replace my pc
I bought a thunderbolt 4 cable that’s 6ft long from Amazon spent like 30$ and all my onexgpu does is blink. It works perfectly with the cable that was provided but won’t detect anything with the thunderbolt. Do you know why?
If i dock this to a 4k tv, is that okay?...Samsung Neoqled that is.
It can be connected to the GPU using a single USB4 cable. A small console and a small GPU.
Great.
Your video timing is so good. I preordered the ROG Ally X and I was just looking into eGPUs on USB4. Thanks!
I really dont see the point of egpu videos. So here we can run elden ring on a smart watch by connecting it a gaming pc, whats the point?
The whole point of a handheld is the native built in performance surely.
We could hook up a 4090 to an old i386 and play doom on a 386 pc at 1875fps but its not really running it is it? Its the 4090 and so essentially you could fudge connect a high tier desktop gpu to literally anything and get better framerates. But why? Just buy a pc or gaming laptop :-0
Gather round to see Sekiro at 4k on a piece of fruit hooked up to a 4090 running at 214fps!!
Hey, do you mind providing details about the drivers used? I and a few others have an issue where once the drivers are side loaded it affects the ability to connect Bluetooth headphones and causes a blue screen. Thanks!
I still believe the gpu docks are a waste of money.
Only worth it if you also have a Laptop to use it with
You can build a PC for less than this docking solution alone that performs on par... The product is a bit of a joke tbh.
@@LemonRush7777 that's the only legitimate use case I can think of. getting one for a handheld? what's next, a belt clip and a battery backpack? walking around looking like a wannabe Ghostbusters.
😂
Y can u elaborate
@@ibrahimbasamh2204 read the other comments. then post a few of your own
Nah... Will stick to AliExpress shit for emulating games
Lol i got asus laptop with their xg mobile output and there is usb4 type of hole in it and it was double use. And you could use it as usb-c, and in getting rid off it is actually downgrade cause now you just lost possibility of using their eGPU and only have usb-c option instead of their sollution AND usb-c
What cable are u using to connect the ally x to the tv/monitor? I'm having Mouse input lag so I'm wondering if it's that or something else
Kindly do some test using the Nvidia eGpu graphic card. do you have the original 4090 eGPU specificially made for ROG ally?
Can you say what the fps was now that the ally x is out?
I'm very interested in this setup, could you test with a RTX 2070 super or similar, if the perfomance is good I will consider this, also if you could test also productiviy tools like 3d renders or video editing, that would be great.
My Legion Go cost me $591 and I do not regret it. The best jack of all trades and for the money is excellent. I love it!
Me too man my girlfriend is jealous of it. 😂😂
snagged a similar sale on an ally. Can we talk about how amazing of a device these things are?! AMD is making some incredible tech. I mean... 60 fps triple-A gaming on 29 watts doesn't sound real!
My rog z1x was $450 thanks fb market and 2nd hand market lol
Good for you, I bought my Legion Go brand new for $591.
Every time I see video with it I see stutter fest
Could you also check the video editing part of this? Like how does Premier pro or DaVinci Resolve works on this
Still waiting for battery life test compare to Legion Go
no need to compare since the ally x has an 80wh and the go has 49.2 wh (i own the go and its still great)
@@Bulbmin64 lenovo go 49w and it's less than sd lcd w40 I feel this device same as sd oled in bettery or even worse
@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 what are you saying the legion go and ally have a far more powerful chip and run windows, steam deck gets 2 - 8 hours about 1 - 6 (same with the go) we should have more battery than the steam deck on the ally x
@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 "feel"
WOULD NOT RECCOMMEND THIS COMBO !!! I did this with the Legion go and onexgpu. Too many steps to set it up and even to update your drivers. you would have to uninstall each driver and reinstall them all over again. Sometime the drivers would be even pop up or the egpu would not work correctly with the external monitor. I would wait until it becomes easier or until the just make one whole device with the gpu inside.
onexgpu is designed specifically for the onexplayers, any other second hand devices will have problems. to avoid this problem, you need to get the onexplayer pro 2 cause thats what i have with the onexgpu and its working perfectly, once you see everything on ultra settings especially red dead redemption 2 you will be mind blown and i don't use a external display just the onexplayer pro 2 8.4in screen
I agree. I have it and it's the same configuration and its pretty finnicky. It disconnects when the go reaches certain temperatures. And it took a while for me to sideload the drivers. I don't recommend it now in its current state. I feel like I spent 800 bucks on broken and incomplete tech.
@draco2xx I have also heard that onexplayers is having issues with the gpu and the intel version of the handled.
@draco2xx Also, the gpu was giving me the same frames no matter TB 4 or oulink
@neilbechem6663 I feel ya, wish it an easy plug and play. This way, you don't have to worry about installing two different drivers and worry about having to uninstall them just to updated them. Definitely in the beginning stages.
rtx 4070 ti super egpu please
That joint looks nice...to bad I just can't trust Asus (customer service)...sheesh 😢
Would like to see 4070 in egpu. I would expect most people would want to run that
I got mine set up with drivers. And am getting a green screen the. A restart. Wondering what my issue is
I'm going to laugh if in another 5 months they release another rog ally with aculink and call it the rog ally Y.😄
The eGPU, if you already have a GPU, works great thru USB4.
I want to see this eGPU go against the XG 6850m XT
Zero word on the SD card reader? Really? Someone wants to keep receiving free stuff from Asus... Best RMA in the business.
hush hush🤫
So paying $1500+ to play Horizon in 1080p med 🤔
no, it can go in higher settings to ultra with the right set up
Missing the point.
I can pick up an RTX 4060 for £250 and eGPU for £200. So more like £1250 for 1440p Helldivers 2 high. Which is good enough.
Cool way of showing us some benchmarks with the X, without breaking embargo. 😎
the X has been out for awhile, so there's no embargo.
Hey prime is it possible you can do a step by step video on that same epgu @ rog ally setup i just bought the onex egpu last week and pre-ordered the rog ally c
does it work on rog ally generation 1
I want to know the correct way to disconnect the GPU from the device
Compare Onexgpu to XG Mobile 6850MT
Waiting for Rog Ally Z1 Extreme comparison.
He'll, I have a question. You can use the external gpu without an external monitor ?
Si se puede pero no logras sacarle todo el rendimiento, además la idea de conectarle una eGPU es para poder usarlo con un monitor.
You can, but the performance is worst.
I understand. Thank you all!
@marcgtsr no its not, ive got the onexplayer pro 2 and the same gpu and i play red dead redemption 2 on ultra settings and runs smoothly on the onexplayer pro 2 screen, yes you can play without the external display with no problem
@@draco2xx It will run slower, I did not say that it would run badly necessarily. The video data has to go back through the same connection and it will pass by the iGPU. So you lose some fps and it has a increased latency.
good to see that handhelds are getting better and better. I still wait for more ram as I use quite lot video editing as well but as soon as they will get into the 32+ ballpark, I'll really consider to replace a laptop to a smaller and even more portable device.
I just ordered the onexplayer x1 AMD. 32gb of ram, VRR.....ETC Fucking thing a beast
@@robertsmith20022 yeah I also checked OneXPlayers, but smething was always off for me... either the design or the power... this x1 is too big for me as handheld
@@robertsmith20022 Is it viable as a main device for Windows?
Como ya pasaron las pruebas trata de subir otro video mosttrado los fps porfavor
90 C temp lol. Its way better to just buy laptop isntead lol
Adding an external GPU defies the purpose of a portable gaming handheld. If you need all of these connections and weight and and still have to add keyboard and mouse, just buy a gaming laptop.
you do have a point, but when it comes to AAA games you will need egpu. pc handhelds by themselves arent that powerful yet without the egpu. ill say in a few years we'll get there but in the meantime egpu is the way to go
@@draco2xx you're right. I guess I'd try to not spend that much for a modular system (even though I'm still fascinated 😉)
You completely misunderstand.
You take the handheld out with you to play on the go, then dock it when you get home.
A gaming laptop can't really play on the go, so it's not comparable.
@@Patrick-y4d1z on the go playing is something I wasn't considering, you're right. I was more focused on what such a handheld could replace and for what price.
Do you have a link for the dock at the end of the video?
...i wonder if its possible for Asus to release an XGmobile without the built in GPU (barebone/ with PSU)... where the end user can use their own GPU...? are there any Teardown of XGmobile...?
This is stupid. Better buy pc and steamndeck. Pc for pc gaming steam deck for gaming on the go.
lmao if want play ultra settings smooth 60fps+ play on desktop high-end pc, for portable play in any windows handheld pc play on rog ally or upcoming lunar lake msi claw, if want linux then the deck but you still need tweak a lot, but if want play easly like "just turn on and play" get a switch which is a console simple as that.
Steamdeck is underpowered spec-wise. 720p screen in 2024?!!
@@PutlerHuyIo steam deck is still good for what it offers
Rog should have used oculink instead of usb4
With that amount of money just buy a decent gaming laptop they are becoming more and more thinner
Price on this will get cheaper next year and there are e GPU thunderbolt docks for under 100$ and you can upgrade the gpu
If it was 700$ it would be worth it
I have a GTX 4070 laptop and I still want this. It ain't the same experience. You can't game on your laptop in bed and then in the living room and then easily out.
Thin isn't good on a gaming laptop, lol...especially since you'll get the extra gimped mobile gpu, even more than the standard mobile version
Id love to see some starfield tests
Running an egpu with an RX7900XTX. Performance is nice. Can´t compare with oculink though. But.....usb issues. Keyboard is lagging/sticking from time to time. Had everything hooked up to the egpu at first and then I had glitching sound as well as this. Now I use all periferals in the second usbc port. Irritating as hell! Can´t seem to find a solution. Tried 2 different keyboards. Disabled the powersaving mode on the USB but to no avail....HALP :(
Z1 Extreme isnt meant to be used beyond 1080p. The L3 Cache is 16mb which half of a older Ryzen 7 7700X which has 32mb L3 Cache.
L3 Cache and 3D Cache are for games (textures/video). The Z1 Extreme lose vs a old Ryzen 7 5800X3D in games with higher resolution and quality settings.
I dont see a reason for this to exist.
They increased the price for Rog Ally x with 300$ while keeping the original ally at full price here in Norway.
What a joke, it is not worth 1100$.
The 2023 version have been on sale for 600 - 700$ several times already so Rog Ally X is definitely not worth it here.
USB4 is a downgrade compared to oculink
Yes, but not as widespread
no shyt, but not many support oculink right now except oneplayer devices
Can you test Hogwarts Legacy?
I love my OG Ally it’s incredible for the price but I find this embargo comical. Asus if it performs great it will sell, if it doesn’t it won’t justify the upgrade. All handheld PCs already have insanely high return rates so I must be missing something about the embargo, like preorders and cash flow up front or something
Now that you can post performance data, would you still recommend the OneX EGPU for ROG Ally X? Or is there a better solution. Thank you.
Rog Ally z1 basic on Moye Connect Usb hub with 87w pd has only 25w performance mode with original charger only was 30w tdp but than only with an external graphics 30w and up will be reached ... only a original dock would help like steam decks....
This is an expensive set up for what you get. I literally just sold my ally for$550 and got a lenovo loq laptop for $650 open box with a ryzen 7 7840HS and 4060 with 8gb ram and 512gb. But i upgraded the ram to 32gb and 1tb with the extra slot that it had inside.
Just bought this for my rog ally x. I have tried everything. Reinstalled drivers. Turned off all USB auto shutoff settings. Restarted. Downloaded updates. Different cables. I can't run any game. It just goes at 1 fps
Somehow, he changed the video to know he basically blur the video of him blocking the FPS counter, which is from me. I’m the only person probably solid or everyone so the FPS counter is not blurred so somehow he accidentally done this on purpose and the excelling knew he didn’t trust him because he got sued.
It does not surprise me that the PS titles did not like the eGPU configuration. They were designed for console in mind only originally and so they are used to custome and much more advanced APUs. Tunneling over PCIe was something it was not optimised for, especially at 4x
Coming from someone that bought XG Mobile 4090 I have to say this isn’t worth it. I would love to see a comparison to a eGPU using a desktop 4090 through Thunderbolt 4.
I would like to see when is came out on July 22 you should try rog ally x with egpu 4090 gpu thunderbolt post it video I can’t buy it yet because I would like to see how are they game run at fps
ok how are you useing an egpu through usb4 on a ryzen cpu? I thought AMD couldn't do egpus over usb4, could someone do the same thing with the new ryzen 7000 framework laptop with usb4?
I'd wish there was a way for the OG Ally owners to hook up an external eGPU with a XG Adapter or something. I don't want to upgrade now, as i bought the Ally just a few months ago :(
Gonna wait for it Black Friday deals lol not gonna upgrade mine still good
799 ?
Can u try arc gpu's
they'll run terrible just like on the legion go because the bios/cpu doesn't support resizablebar/smart access memory