Lia Thomas BANNED From The Olympics..Transphobic or A Win For Women?
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Lia Thomas was recently banned from competing at the Olympics in Paris this summer. The transggender swimmer lost her challenge against the Court of Arbitration of Sport in Switzerland, when a judge ruled she did not have standing to bring the case.
Is this transphobic, or is that a win for protecting women's sports?
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Win for women, as it always should've been
Not transphobic at all. They made the right ruling and women must be protected. It is common sense.
The fact that Lia Thomas and these other "Trans athletes" refuse to compete against the Men...really let's you know what this is all about.
South Park already highlighted it.
Women need to start reclaiming their sports that they fought so hard for. Men will support them.
The issue is that after transitioning they can't realistically compete against men because the hormone therapy causes physical changes including a loss of muscle mass. So in terms of physical abilities a trans women that has gone through puberty as a man sits somewhere in the middle between biological men and women. The same applies in the opposite direction, i.e. if a biolocial female takes male hormones to transition that person will gain muscle mass and hence will gain a physical advantage over women not taking such hormones, but will not reach the physical abilities of a biological male. Unfortunately these things are more complicated than some people consider them to be.
@@Raider_MXD so make their own category. Simple solution.
@@jaylucas8352 Athletes can't make their own categories in sports, that has to be handled by the respective governing bodies. So, if no separate categories are provided all an individual athelete who wants to compete in an event can do is try to get into one of the existing categories.
@@Raider_MXDI get that but that’s the choice they make. They can live as a trans person in all other walks of life but that the Olympic level of competition I think we can handle that. This is about fairness to the other competitors, not hate.
She can live how she wants to.
@LouSeph Being transgender is not a choice just as being homosexual isn't. Obviously she can't live how she wants to because she is prevented from pursuing a career as an athlete.
Next, William will identify as a child and go after junior Olympics.
LMAO, I would not even be surprised😂.
@@lordtyrion007 🤣
That would be weird and dude would need a huge mental health evaluation 😂
Well said. It should not be controversial. I support gays and transgenders. But it simply isn't fair for transgenders like Lia Thomas to compete against women. I hope in a few years this will no longer be an issue.
I am like that too - I am left leaning and I have no agenda against trans or gay people whatsoever- this is about competition and fairness to the other competitors - not to discriminate against one person.
I’m 100% agreement with you! However I don’t think there is much hope that this will end. It will get worse and worse in the future. A track and field coach in Oregon lost his job, because he wrote a letter to state of Oregon about potential solution on how transgender athletes can be included and compete…
I am gay, a liberal, and i support transgender rights, but i totally agree with you, its just common sense. Thomas should have never been allowed to compete with woman. Even if she is transitioning, it doesnt negate the inherent and unfair biological advantage she has.
Massive W for Women!!!! Absolutely love this ruling.
A massive win for women!! Can’t have a men racing against women! That is not fair.
I am as liberal as it comes. But I am always as athletic as they come. This is a win for women. There is an OBVIOUS difference when it comes to sports!
A trans woman is NOT a biological woman. Period. Sports categories are based on biology and physiology. A 240 pound male wrestler can not simply "identify" as 160 pounds. And if he claims to be 160 pounds and demands that we treat him as such, would that mean he should be allowed to compete in the 160 pound category?
Exactly. If you allow these people to live their fantasy, then you will have these problems.
This is such a touchy topic, but you do a great job of being rational and respectful at the same time. Great video, I wish more people thought like this!
I completely agree. She did a great job on her objectiveopinion. . I just think it's not fair. I 'll use Caitlin Clark as a example. As much as I love that girl and her electrifying skills, put her against the worst g league player and she wouldn't be able to get off that beautiful jumper of hers. It's not being discriminatory. You can't have girls compete against men at the highest levels. And you can't have children making this decision when their brains aren't developed. I think this is why her channel is so good. She rocked it. 👍🏽
What’s touchy? He’s not a woman and needs to stay out of women’s sports.
A Win for Women 100%
Common sense at last, ridiculous to have been allowed in the first place a there is a massive advantage.
A Perfect rational opinion. This is absolutely the correct answer. Thank you for speaking the truth!
Unfair Equipment violation.
He has a Built In Rudder, all be it a Tiny One
This would only ever be fair in an open category or something.
Finally common sense is starting to prevail 💪🙏🙏❤️
it's Leo Thomas...not Lia... it's a boy.
Just make their own category…or league if they don’t want to compete fairly.
Common sense prevails for once..God Bless from the UK
Definitely a win for women and women's sports
Maybe there should be a separate category for trans people
He/she should join the men's team to prove he isn't just a mediocre male athlete if they think there is no difference between men and women.
Thomas was on the men's team, just wasn't highly ranked until the switch to the women's team 🤔
@@Darkmoonrose888 Yeah, I was talking about the Olympics. If he could make the men's team it would lend some credibility to his claim to be an elite athlete. Of course he couldn't otherwise he wouldn't have tried to find a shortcut to actual training.
@@robertvirnig638 Sorry, I misunderstood. Yeah, there is no way he could compete, even before the transition.
I will say that it is interesting that no trans athletes seem to want to compete in female sports that differ from the male versions like gymnastics. Somehow the sports designed for the female body are not as interesting to trans athletes.
It is far for women's sports. I agree with your comments and I hope for the best of women's sports and the gaining of scholarships for women in women sports.
Thank goodness. Let's concentrate on sports competition instead of all the toxic politics that would have ensued.
Should not ever have to even comment on something like this.this door should have never been opened in the 1st place.lunacy and delusion at its finest and please lets stop making up words like transphobic no one is afraid every one just has common sence
Transphobic?No
Sane? Yes
It is a W for women sports.
Your intro to the video is enough.
Easy dub Rachel. How this is even a debate is baffling
its a "womens sport", what a world we lived in. technology going upward and human going downward
I have to say I think this is the best way I’ve ever seen this topic addressed. The respect comes with the amount of effort and attention you’ve put into this subject and it comes off just as such.
P.S: GL in the Big 3!!
I support Transgender community. I can only empathy amount discrimination they face.
However, it is be scientifically proven male transition to women after puberty, have still have more substantial testosterone than women.
Testosterone is key hormone that affects athletes performance because testosterone is key to muscle growth.
That’s why it is harder for women to gain muscle than men without abusing PED.
the world has gone mad
Win for America
Uwian na talaga Rachel
😂 That was subtle. I had to rewind that. Haha. It was great. Over and out. Let's go 🏡 home
For all the women complaining about the huge pay gaps in men & womens sports, she named all the reasons why men make more money. All the PHYSICAL ADVANTAGES men have, make MEN'S sports more entertaining to watch. More eyeballs. The money follows.
There is a point you made. To add to the point sports are a form of entertainment and so if a sport or athlete is more exciting or entertaining the eyeballs follow, and the money. Like the WWE for a broad example.
Side note: that Dale Jarrett shirt is badass!
I have a seed to plant in this crazy world. Since men, have to be included in Womens sports why not do it by class, fighting an even fight in boxing means making weight. Include them , let them complete against "gals" their own size.
#fightsomeoneyourownsize
Win for women and this isn’t negative and the points you made are logical.
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Its a joke! Imagine Dennis Rodman playing in the wnba
Excellent!!
What about Griner from the WNBA?
She even talks like a man I heard her talking
This is a win for woman
Win for women
Facts…..thank you
Yes…great decision….
It's such a tough one when it comes to sports..... everyone should have the opportunity to compete, and everyone has the right to be who they want to be. But at the same time the playing field has to be fair for all involved. All I know for sure is that I don't have the answers, but you're definitely right to promote talking about it and to keep any toxicity out of the discussion, as ultimately we should all be striving towards acceptance and inclusivity in all levels of sport.
William Thomas has every opportunity to compete. The men's Olympic team will have him in open arms if he makes it there
This is such a touchy topic. But the androgenic benefits you have by going through puberty. The bone density, strength, all the benefits you get from testosterone doesn't go away by suppressive therapy. I have everyone 's back.But in sports,it just isn't fair. Anyone that thinks it's fair should take a biology and physiology class. Mad respect for keeping a objective opinion on your podcast. I honestly respect lea for standing up for what she believes in. But you can't have that in sports. Especially at the Olympic level. Phenomenal podcast as always girl!😊👍🏽
What about Brittany Reiner ?Have you seen his video?
WIN
Be careful ⚠️
Careful of what
Many trans women have already participated in the Olympics
It's wrong
This really should be common sense and not controversial at all! Women against women, men against men in sports.
Finally a reality check for this cheater. Your narcissism stops
now.
So well spoken. Respectful while making a lot of good points. From watching numerous videos of Riley Gaines speaking out, I think it is important to not diminish these women (including you) within sports that they have worked...years to train for. The genders are separated for a reason, and the world records indicate those differences. It is not transphobic to prioritize the safety and accomplishments of women in sports.
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Hell he still got his little wee wee until that is gone he can’t swim with the pretty ladies ❤❤❤
Win for the W
Yes, another episode of Rachel Annamarie DeMita! I totally respect your dedicated research on this sensitive topic. I agree with you 100%. Nice video edits. You need someone or something to hold that voice recorder lol. Uwian na?! How did you learn to speak Tagalog?
You literally stated why the ban is good by just saying women at start. U don't need to do like 8minutes video about this. 🙄🙄. LEAGUE IS LABEL WOMEN FOR A REASON NOT TRANSGENDER LEAGUE
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WIN for WOMEN! this dude needs to compete with male swimmers.
No Men, in women’s sports/pageantry at all. ✊✊✊👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
It's crazy he was 462nd ranking in swimming and shot up to number one competing against women. It shows how unfair it is that this dude was able to compete against women. Not transphobic at all.
Quit calling him Lia
Exactly. You can’t let him to identify as something he genetically isn’t and expect him to live things by the biological rules.
His name is William or Will for short.
You say 12 is too young to transition but when you wait then you're too late for sports and people say you look like a man. People don't really make it easy for trans people. And I get it there's a chance someone can change their mind. But I don't think we should politicize how families and doctors try to better determine whether they should go through with something like this. There is no perfect test.
So you're ok with children drinking alcohol and taking drugs with their parents consent?
@@shacharrachmany1102 This example makes no sense when I just said it would be in accordance with the parents and doctor.
Instead of just saying they are in a catch 22 situation with society, what is your solution? Someone 100% feels like a woman and they were born a man. What do you do that is best for that individual?
@@JustADudeGamer WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE ADULT what"s so hard to understand?
@@shacharrachmany1102👍
No 12 year old should ever take hormones. It makes you infertile.
There is so much more to the Lea Thomas story that goes to show how awful this can be for women. The women on that swim team were made to feel extemely uncomfortable jn their own locker room and were allegedly told to change elsewhere if they were uncomfortable. Thomas was still dating women at the time while joining the women's swim team and had all of a man's working parts.
According to Riley Gaines she actually tied with Thomas but was told that Thomas would be one one to take the podium and recieve tge trophy. Gaines was also frustrated claiming that while she was puttinf her all into that race, Thomas seemed to be coasting, barely putting in much effort while still tying with Gaines.
I would love to see you do a clear, level headed video on all of the issues that come up in these situations.
I remember being 12 and being so uncomfortable even changing into a swimsuit in the girls locker room, I cannot imagine being that age and having to have a biological male in there as well.
Rofl y, "transphobic." I don't think the whole world can be transphobic.
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transwomen athlettes should compete with men, not women.. if they really wants to compete.. why should they want to compete with women, isn't that sexist? they should compete regardless of gender, and since men's sports have higher records, which means better competition, then they should aim for that.. even women would want to compete with men if only they could, just to prove they could.. there is no reason for transwomen to not compete with men..
The issue is that after transitioning they can't realistically compete against men either because the hormone therapy causes physical changes including a loss of muscle mass. So in terms of physical abilities a trans women that has gone through puberty as a man sits somewhere in the middle between biological men and women. The same applies in the opposite direction, i.e. if a biolocial female takes male hormones to transition that person will gain muscle mass and hence will gain a physical advantage over women not taking such hormones, but will not reach the physical abilities of a biological male. Unfortunately these things are more complicated than some people consider them to be.
The self-realization of some must not lead to cheating of others. The right decision.
Win for woman?? Its a win for the world period. Thats horrible that people would think its ok.
Massive W.
I am not hateful - I am left wing - but this is the right call. This is not about letting this person live as a trans-woman, it’s about competition and fairness and this is the right decision.
Why does this girl get so much publicity to comment on sports?
Uwian na! That's awesome lol. Way to lay out the facts and present them in a fair way. Good job tackling a subject that could be tricky. Completely agree.
I agree with this ruling and the guidelines that come with it 100%!
There was a proposal to create a trans division for the Olympics and Thomas is declining competing there. So, as far as I’m concerned, this case is no longer about trans issues at all. It’s just about Thomas’ personal stakes. Women’s sport has existed for a long time and for the most part, female athletes are grateful for its existence as it has enabled them to make livings and pursue their dreams in the sports world. They don’t see it as some kind of declaration that they are inferior to men. So, why is that logic lost on Thomas? Because it was never about being trans. It was never even about equality. It was about chasing superiority to douse the feeling of inferiority.
Hallelujah!
W for real Women
A win for women sport😀😀😀😀😀
I don’t understand trans much. So they were born as men, but identify themselves as women. I was born as a woman, but I have no problem identifying myself as either man or woman. In fact, what’s the difference as identifying oneself as a man vs woman? I always thought man and woman are the same except body differences.
It's not about phobia or wins, it's all about good old fashion common sense.
Like your take. I think you could argue it was transphobic IF they completely banned trans athletes. The fact that Thomas can compete in the men’s division is fair and logical
A Huge win for Women and it should stay this way.
Either there should be a separate section to compete for those transitioning, or people should be made to wait until their biomechanics are not as at such a clear advantage to others because they've just started to transition. Needs to be fair across the board for everyone.
Separate category only sensible direction.
Wrong! "Lia"(WILL) WAS NOT BANNED FROM THE OLYMPICS. HE was just banned from WOMEN'S OLYMPIC TEAM. JUST LIKE ALL MEN.
No here's my opinion I think it was not transphobic Because did not make me a misogynist and I believe protecting women's sports will Thomas is now AKA Lai Thomas I think you know they've been her for a reason she's a transgender woman and I don't believe in transgender women it is in the Bible God says if you was born as a man then you're a man for him to change his identity noun as a woman that's wrong for women sports and I'm glad that somebody step up and protect women's sports and banned for life for competing in Olympics.? @ohitsbaileyy
Trump will be president in 2024 he even said he would stop this mess at his campaign rally
MAGA all day baby
def a win, should be banned from regular divisions aswell , bio men and females compete separated, or force them to participate in mens division or make a new class that is "open class"
It's about freakin' time...🤨
Common sense prevails ...
Poor Willie Thomas! Poor excuse for a man.
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Protect women’s sports 🙌🏻
protect womens sports
Summer of 93' I was 12 and my 13 year-old gf beat me in arm wrestling so much I'd get frustrated. Running against her was even worse. 1 time I had to apologize to her for being a jerk because she was fixing to beat me up bad. Like a year or later all those advantages she had were non-existent as I had gone through puberty
If he wants to compete. He should compete against his own kind and not deprive women of their victory.
Another amazing video rachel ❤😊
Win for all sports in general!
DUBS FOR WOMEN
I "Fully Accept" That He is a Female impersonator.
There, Y'all Happy Now?