I’m a huge fan of the show and a huge fan of the adventures, extremely jealous of the XO lifestyle. That said these “build” are extreme overkill for most. Don’t blow your money on stuff, blow your money on experiences. The PanAm was done in a 99% factory Jeep with a set of 5100 series shocks and proper tires.
Agreed! Experience is king. We build our rigs for very specific purposes of mobile production houses, lots of team members, long hours and days, and the best quality we can.
@@samueljlarson Awesome! Go for it! My comment is 2 years old now, however after listening to Clay and Rochelle on a few podcasts, I understand their builds a bit more. It is clear these builds are built for production, first and foremost. Going into this with that mindset changes things for me as a viewer rather than someone looking to get into extended travel or 'expeditions'. I am still a fan of XO (Thursdays are dad gets the TV at 9pm eastern night) and wish nothing but the best for the crew at XO. I envy what they do.
@@LifewithFrank I know what you mean. I do cheap trips / modifications out of necessity. One day if I have the resources, I may choose to spend more money. Overlanding in general is whatever you make it, and I love that about it. Thanks for the reply. See you out there!
Clay as usual you’ve made a lot of good points in a logical order, thank you... Buy once, cry once. No better advice. When I was first getting into photography I read an article that said buy one good tripod rather than a half a dozen mediocre ones. I bought a Really Right Stuff tripod and ball head, they’ve never let me down in ten years of usage.
This video is just what I needed to hear. It's what every soon to be overlander, and even seasoned overlanders should watch. A healthy reminder never hurt. You just might even learn something. Keep the tips and advice coming!! Thanks Clay!! 👍
Meh. Big Budgets are for form over function. My overland rig goes everywhere and has served me perfect. Haven't spent a ton of money. Doesn't always look perfect but is a work horse.
Buddy Blader not really, my stock Nissan Titan with M/T tires has gone just about anywhere I ever needed it to go and this dude said “don’t buy cheap LED lights” that’s bullshit. I spent $30 on amazon on my 20in led bar and $18 on the heavy duty wire kit and I’ve submerged it in water, mud, snow, ice, dust and it’s still working never had issues and it’s not fogging or anything. This guy is what we call a “Gear Queer” they think they have to have the top of the line everything I order to Overland and that’s so far from the truth!
I understand you have sponsors and certain obligations to fulfill, and good for you on obtaining that level of success! That being said it was really cool to see the GX460 in stock form take on the Rebelle Rally in one of the episodes this season. It would be really cool if you guys did a “back to basics” episode and just ran stock vehicles with maybe a set of all terrain tires just to see the capability of a stock vehicle. I think many people would be surprised that their vehicles are a lot more capable than they think.
Fern Mon I’ve got a 2009 RAV4 with AWD and a center diff lock. It’s comfortable on the highway, gets good gas mileage, is easy to park, holds lots of camping gear and does great in snow and on forest road trails. I really want an LC next, but in reality most overland rigs in the USA spend 90% of their time on asphalt, not super technically rocky trails.
The problem is they would be able to replicate the same trips and with less worry about body damage or voiding warranties. This would make all the expensive builds looks silly because lets face it, they are.
There is no way these dudes would risk their sponsorship vehicle like that. Their newest seasons are kinda a telltale sign that they don't have much adventure left in them. Key point, FLYING around the Salton sea in heavily populated southern California. This channel has become a cash grab hence this "overland build video". Its pretty sad considering their first 2 seasons were awesome. But thats what happens when you consider yourself an "overlander" and get any kind of attention from the internet.
I did some pretty steep breakovers on forest roads in my wife's Town and Country over Christmas break in north Georgia looking for waterfalls. She kept reminding me she had to use it to get to work. Maybe next time we go to the mountains she will let us take my Jeep. I say just go for it.
As I continue my research into my future "up-fitting" of a pickup/SUV, I watch a lot of these kinds of videos. This one I think is particularly well-scripted and well-presented by this Clay guy... he lends a boatload of credibility to the quality of work that his customers can expect. Expedition Overland is now on my shortlist!
Best mod in my 99 LX470 was removing 2nd and 3rd row seats - opened up a ton of room. Of course it’s just me and the dog so I don’t “need” the additional seats. I can store my Gazelle T4 tent inside along with all my other gear and still plenty I of room for the pup to ride/sleep
Have to say, ignore all the worthless negative comments. Clay, you and your group do a fantastic job and are much appreciated in the outdoor community. Keep up the good work. Look forward to your next adventures !
Have to agree... Since I found their videos here on RUclips Though i may not have their budget.. The XO crew has inspired our build for our trip to Alaska.
Great episode! A checklist of the steps you take to build it would be great! I feel like this gave an overview of what to look for, but having an organized way or a step-by-step guide would be awesome. I still enjoyed the fact that you brought up what are the parts that I should be spending money on!
I don't remember where I got this but " A stack of bills doesn't make up for a lack of skills!" Meaning start small and upgrade your experience before upgrading your gear.
@@davidharden8469 basic recovery gear is necessary. I've used a high lift, straps and shackles to hand winch in a tight spot before. Plan for what you have currently.
@@davidharden8469 that was pure negligence on his part. Everyone knows not to drive a "Dry" lake bed when it snows or rains. Turns into nothing but mud. Everyone warned against it and signs are posted. But you don't need full recovery gear to get out. A snatch strap or even traction mats are goood. Now if you want to do remote travel and more hardcore terrain then yes, a full recovery setup is reccomend. Just go and see what you can handle.
For those of us with a limited budget and vacation hours, plan your routes and activities, buy gears and do modifications accordingly. Say you want to do the White rim trail in Canyonlands, a set of good AT tires, a cheap 12v air pump, and a ground tent are all you need. If Death Valley is your destination, add a set of traction mats and a shovel for sands, it doesn’t have to be the 300 dollar Maxtrax, I used a shovel, the oem bottle jack, plywood for my bed platform to get out of a sand pit. Again, plan ahead, buy what is necessary within your budget, build your rig overtime and trips. And more importantly, build up your trail experience and skill sets, which imho, more important than bumpers, lights, expansive suspension lift kids or whatever gears we desire but don’t have the money for.
For new people like myself who day dream about doing something like this, my biggest obstacle is that even if I had a dream setup or even if I just had a truck, I have no clue where I could go to enjoy such an investment. All of these videos seem to be out in Colorado or some remote far off places. It’s not that I couldn’t take a vacation and drive out to one of those areas, but I want to be able to “ get out there” more than once or twice a year. Can anyone suggest any sort of resource that I can use to educate myself where I may find suitable, closer areas to actually get out and go?
Agreed! Good video. Budget and or mechanical ability drive builds for most. I've figured out 3 major builds. 2 came to fruition. If possible I recommend saving the money to do most of it at once or it typically does not get done. For the mechanical people, the junkyard can be your friend. I have a lot of hours out in the yard. I definitely agree with some below. Don't just layout, design and build. Get out and have some fun.
I have been in the automotive industry for well over thirty years and I just stumbled onto this video. You really did a great job on this with some really sound and good advice!!! You craft some very nice rigs man!!
I was freaking out that maybe I made a bad choice of my front bumper until I got to 13:00 since I already purchased my CBI Aluminum Front Bumper for my 2017 Tacoma. Thanks for making me feel happy and relieved with my choice.
Just recently got into your channel, I'm 17 from the UK and overlanding is one of my dreams. This channel has inspired me so much, I've been binge watching all of your adventures. I hope to one day incorporate overlanding into a tv show about the natural wonders of the world. Keep it up!
Great video, I’m a avid believer in buy once cry once. I’d just add to get sliders before bumpers, I love my bumpers/winch/lighting/lift etc etc etc, but sliders are relatively cheap and rocker/door damage sucks and adds up.
That’s a good call. As with any mods it really comes down to what you plan to do with it. If you’re mostly planning to run dirt roads that have mud holes, you better not go alone or have a winch and traction mats. If you plan to be in some rocks or terrain that could pose a threat to your body, rocksliders would be a good start.
That was GREAT! Doing a full build for a vehicle I am going to be buying. I have been thinking I was going crazy. " obsessing " So I feel a bit vindicated watching this, Knowing my Crazy Mapping out is truly the correct thing to do.....THANK YOU!
Wow we just saw your 3 seasons on Amazon and watched them in two days I wish we were in our 30’s or 40’s again Really nice , especially the end of episode 3 , great job
That was totally great superb information sir. Thanks so much for taking the time and explaining so beautifully on how to go about building your vehicle. KUDOS 24👍
Great video, I recently purchased a 2017 Nissan Frontier Pro4x and it's a dream to drive. Now looking into overlanding and this video helped me focus my vision on where I want to go. Thank you!
This video could not of come out at a better time. Finally starting to get more serious about doing an overland build on my jku and getting these tips are going to help out so much. I’m also become more of a just get out and travel and find out what you need instead of trying to plan so i hope that helps but also doesn’t hurt me at same time
First like and comment, dang. That's never happened. I would just like to say I highly appreciate the time y'all put in to all your videos. I subbed back with your first expedition and it's been neat to watch not only the vehicle builds progress but your film making skills as well. Keep it up and cheers from Texas.
Thanks so much for the tips and tricks! You guys have been very helpful in getting awesome advice and true inspiration to adventure off the beaten path! Looking forward to really getting moving on my own slow going 1st gen Tacoma adventurer. Doing things once, and doing them right!
I may be mistaken but did you install the suspension, wheels and tire package first and then add all that weight? I reversed that and did sliders, skids, bumpers, bed racks and the winch first. Now I could actually see what all that weight did to the truck, giving me a better idea of what suspension package I needed to get the height I wanted. In any event this was a great video and I was glad to see you put an emphasis on buying quality components and first class workmanship.
I think for most people this is going to look like as follows; -Getting your vehicle's stock suspension in good working order(repair/replace bad ball joints, tie rod ends, etc)., maybe throw some Bilstein shocks on there -all terrain tires -winch -recovery gear -food storage Beyond that is probably tough for most people's budget
Great tips, agree on all fronts except maybe suspension. You guys build a lot of Toyota’s, and OME is generally considered the “cheap” option but it’s also exceptionally durable. I’ve run OME on built 200 Series cruisers and FJ Cruisers for years without any issues.
So basically... Don't cheap out on anything, do it right the first time, buy once cry once, better to save and buy something nice than get cheaper gear
Clay touched on it, but weight is a killer if going for a full build. Keep a detailed spreadsheet of each item you add, and weigh all your smaller gear that are in bags/boxes that get put in as well. Good idea to take your stock truck (or pre-build) to a scale and have it weighed with a full tank of fuel to establish your baseline. Limit how much weight is aft of the rear axle, and don't go crazy bolting on stuff to a roof rack if at all possible. Sometimes it is just unavoidable, but keep in mind the consequences.
Just keep it simple. This advice is for a truck thats going to be shipped around the world and used in extremely remote areas. If that doesnt sound like you then almost everything in this video is overkill.
@@kelkev85 Thanks! I'm staying fairly stock on my 2004 F150 4x4. Just the engine still feels strong and runs well 4.6L V8. Just had the frame gone over and welded up the soft spots, many due to Nor'east winter roads (salt). Yearly inspection done so good to continue I figure. I'd like to raise the body an 1" or so (have tapped front and rear bumpers on entry/exit) and as due move back to my Wrangler AT's (2" taller than the street/AT's on there now). I know swapping out the tires will help a lot. Next move is why I subscribed here, to learn. I have the 8.8 / 3.55 open rear diff, thinking a good move is to swap to a LS. Pro's/Con's to doing so?
@@olddawgsrule Hey Bob, no real cons to adding an LSD except initial cost ofcourse. I like detroit true trac personally which does not use clutch packs that can wear out over time. Locking differial is another good option, not much more expensive and it can be turned off when not needed which is going to be 99% of the time. Also those 1/2 ton trucks tend to have a lower front end, that may need to be addresses like you mentioned.
@@kelkev85 I had the opportunity to look over a lifted F250. Like me, he wasn't looking to raise much. He did a 2" spacer(?) over the front coils. Hadn't seen this in my researching.. Interesting! Pro's/Con's?
I am planning to purchase a stock jeep. Anything from mid 70e through mix 90s . then enjoy the ride and adventures falling the way. No worries about the age or capability. Just t o have a good time with good people thanks for a great video.
@@davidryde6296 limited slip will absolutely help. However, I have never seen someone get stuck and say man if I had only had off road bumpers, but most people who get stuck wouldnt have with lockers. But hey it's your truck, build it and use it the way you want. Have fun
Great video. After watching some of your video series on your adventures, Whats your opinion on the IFS set up (like on the Toyota) vs a solid axle set up? Im starting to look at options to start building a overlanding rig out of a S Series Blazer, and haven't whether I would keep the IFS setup or converting it to a solid axle from a reliability standpoint.
I'd say super charger is ok. Just make sure you have more power and a clean air source. Helps gass milage if you drive that way and can have more power when needed. But gears would be best.
There is a lot of great advice in this video, however... "Buy once cry once" comes up at every category, and I don't think that (especially in your first overlander), it applies everywhere. You don't need to spend top-dollar on every piece of gear, and you don't need the best quality from everything, unless you have an unlimited or huge budget, especially since you don't even know what kind of gear will work for you. it's like building a workshop: when you have a complete shop, you start buying more expensive tools to increase quality, but do you need to blow half your budget on a welder and skip on buying, let's say a vice? No. Lights, for example, are a very good place to save some money in overlanding: you need them, but the type of lights you need varies greatly based on the terrain you want to tackle. You don't need epic spotlights for narrow and winding forest service roads, for example. If you don't plan on doing serious off-roading, but want to have a backup plan for getting stuck, you don't need the highest quality winch. It's best to buy adequate quality gear, the go out, get as much experience as you can and pay attention to what works and what doesn't, you you know where to pay top dollar when you want to upgrade.
Diggin' the series. Thanks for sharing. Any idea if you will cover weapons for any of your expeditions, specifically mounting ideas... considering your relationship with Magpul? And if you hadn't thought of doing it, and are now considering it, I wear a 3XL t-shirt! Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much for the thorough information. Quite inspiring. Wondering if it's possible for me to drive my 2011 Volvo XC70 from Toronto to Yukon......
ur absolutely right about balancing the vehicle!!! but how do we do it??? how do we distribute the weight by installing a rear canopy & tray in a ISUZU D-MAX 4WD Pickup Truck (for example)???
@ Chandrachur Niyogi - Coming from an aviation background myself I know pilots need to preform this function as a regular duty. If you could get your vehicle weighed that’ll determine the distribution as well as a “center”. From there it’s a case of everything you add on will affect the balance either fore or aft of that “center”. Th ere are apps for weight and balance meant for aircraft/pilot usage but I’m thinking with a little thought they might be useful for setting up a vehicle as well.
Is that a Ford in your closing statements of this video. Bronco sport? Ranger SUV? I can't see the badge but it surea looks like a ranger front clip. Can't wait to see he answer
In building out a vehicle that you will be taking across a border, do you ever have to take into consideration that some border crossings will weigh your vehicle and compare the weight to the GVWR? While upgrading suspension makes carrying loads easier, it can push the weight over the factory GVWR once everything is loaded. I’ve read in some channels that Canada is one such country that may opt to weigh a clearly loaded vehicle and not allow through if over the GVWR. I’ve crossed into Canada dozens of times, but to this point it has never been in a loaded 4x4 rig. Thanks!
Really like those kinds of videos. Thanks for making them. What is your opinion on Portal Axles? Are you considering those and what are your reasons to or not to install them? Would you recommend installing diff lockers, at what point and what system would you go for, air or electric? Thanks so far. Greetings from Austria.
Until a few years ago when he died. I had to deal with my stepfather's "help". He was a Model T mechanic and never understood the need to do the better or the right way. He would do it and then I had to do it over spending more money. I had a Mustang 5.0 that needed a new muffler. I set an appointment to get it replaced. I needed him to take it because i was working 3rd shift. When I got up he told me I saved you a bunch of money. I went to work and something didn't seem right but i couldn't pin it down. The next morning going home I tried to accelerate into traffic. Only I had no pressure on the gas pedal and nearly got creamed by an idiot. I got home and he goes "I had them put on one muffler and pipe." You can imagine what I wanted to say. Another time he goes I can fix that, I said what? That noise when you start the car. That's what a 5.0 supposed to sound like. I have other stories.
So what is proven for off-road or overlanding, is it better having wide or narrow tires? I haven’t seen that discussed in your videos, what do you think?
Gino Zahnd I know ASPW did, Ronny Dahl didn’t do one yet. ASPW said skinnies have more advantages over wide tires. Sadly, tire manufacturers only make wide tires for taller sizes. All the narrow sizes aren’t that tall.
If off-road is what you want, big fat tires are better. For overlanding, tall and skinny are better. What I am saying is that depends on your definition of off-road and overlanding, these two may not be equal to each other. My definition of overlanding includes a substantial amount of highway travel as well as off-road trails, and I don’t go overlanding in the winter so I don’t need the floatation of wider tire on snow. Narrow tires are quieter, more economical to run, less ware to axle bearings, while wider tires offer a slightly better cornering because of the wider stand, better on deep sand/mud/snow, plus it looks cool. It is a matter of preference.
S L good input, all agreeable points but doesn’t narrow tires give more pounds per square inch of force when aired down for maximum traction? Wide tires push more sand when aired down, narrow tires dig down through mud and snow to find traction if there’s a solid ground beneath. I think it also depends on the terrain but you can’t just switch between narrow and wide so I agree with Andrew saint Pierre white that narrow tires have more benefits than downsides.
Hema Nigansz while air down, wider tires with the same diameter do offer better floatation, thus traction, on DEEP sand/mud/snow over narrow tires. In sand and mud, it is true that narrow tires dig down to find traction, but if they dig all the way the axles, or even the frame, you are going nowhere. On snow, wider tire pack more snow into snow pack to gain traction, that is why snow cats use very wide tracks. Same with sand and mud, mud tires grab materials around and under it, pack them down to gain traction, that is why wider is better in these cases.
I have a 2014 Chevy Silverado 1500 crew cab 4wd wt that I’m putting a go fast camper on. I’d like to build the truck out so it’s overland capable with an onboard water tank, as I’m looking at the things I’d like to add and considering the weight it will add once bed storage and gear is added the truck will be close to its 7100lb payload capacity. I’m a novice to this kind of things so I am wondering what suspension parts and components would you recommend using for my Silverado build? I’d appreciate any helpful advice.
The best mode of transport for extreme over landing that has been used on more sucessful overland journeys than any other is a horse or camel. You keep your chosen vehicle as close to the pure simplicity of one of these creatures you have naied it. Go stock, your wallet sapping add ons will be unrepairable and unreplaceable once off the beaten track. Steel can be welded fom Africa, saharah, South American jungle logging camp to the Mongolian steps, fancy lightweight alloys will be a challenge. Fuel filters and in line fuel filters will clog quickly with the poor fuel you will take on board so take spares, same with air filters. Standard bulbs are available worldwide, fancy bi xenon or led, no chance. Go lightweight , it puts less strain on your vehicle, strip everything out that's not needed. Try to go diesel, naturally aspirated pre electronic engine management and no electric windows, immobilisers ect. Use simple steel wheel rims and reinforced side wall tyres, no bead lockers or alloys. Also remember wheels are winches, learn how to do it. A farm jack is easier, cheaper, lighter and bomb proof, you can winch and jack with it and they cost nothing compared to a electronic bumper whinch, wire and battery set up. Wrap a piece of yellow electrical tape around your steering wheel at the 12 o'clock position, if you need to ask why you are not ready to drive off road yet. Don't set rigid time schedules for your journey, you will just stress out trying too keep to it. Check, double check then check again that you have all the correct admin and documents for you and your vehicle to cross borders and have cash in local currency to grease your way through those who will expect a back hander no matter how good your documents are, be aware rules change frsquently. Many countries require vehicles to carry a hiviz vest or jacket , a breatherliser kit, headlamp beam deflectors, and all sorts of odd stuff so check ahead.
How do i find people that do Overlanding? I've got a halfway decent build on my f150 and would like to do some adventuring but would like to do it with a group rather than alone. any tips on how to find some fellow overlanders?
Great question! Check out facebook groups - facebook.com/groups/overlandercommunity // Check out Expedition Portal or google your states local 4x4 group. Events are a great way to meet others as well - Check out Overland Expo West. Good luck!
Hi Clay, thanks for the great video, very educational and helpful for lots of folks here I believe. I have a question, how do you define the definition of a good weight distribution for the vehicle? Do you have any hints or can create another video in the future to talk about more on the lift +weight + safety to build the overland vehicle?
Think about the dense, heavy stuff. Fuel, water, batteries, spare wheel/tire, tools, refridgerated food/drink. If you can keep it low or between the axles it will help with the handling. The nifty drawer systems help with this too by pushing heavy items further forward above the rear axle so the truck isn't too low in the rear when driving. For example, on cheap Jeep builds people will put the bigger spare on the roof, which can make the truck more tippy. I'm not much of a fan of removing the stock spare because its typically part of the crash structure of a car. But this does limit the size of the spare tire. An external spare tire mount on the rear (hitch receiver spare mounts are much cheaper than a fancy bumper) is better than on the roof for center of gravity and then use the stock spare in the vehicle to store tools or water. The roof is for bulky items that hopefully aren't very heavy. I do like this video's approach to think through what you want to do with the truck (hopefully before you have the truck!) and tailor it to you needs but I can see how expensive this can get. Some here have said that going too big on tires or engine power can make the project get out of hand when sticking closer to stock tire sizes and lift height with fair underbody protection and well-used recovery gear will keep the truck reliable and daily-usable. I hope this helps Kenneth!
The biggest question I always come back to is payload. Adding stiffer springs may make carrying the weight better, but it doesn't change the rating on the sticker inside the driver's door. Without looking it up most SUVs, mid-size and 1/2 ton trucks have payload ratings some where between 800# and 1600#. This seems to raise the choice between passengers, gear/equipment, or off road upgrades. Is this just a "dirty little secret" of the overland community or is there a good way to balance it all and still be legal? Edited to add question mark. :)
The Opinion of Matt - few people worry about GVWR, and those who don’t rarely venture very far. Limited payload is why extended trips are usually made on vehicles originally intended for commercial use, like LC70 series, Sprinter vans, or HD pickups. Those who go in SUVs or 1/2 tons travel really light, most don’t have heavy off-road armor or more than 2 people. For short trips you’ll be fine, other than the possibility of a denied insurance claim in case of a crash, if they figure out you were grossly (ha!) overweight.....
@@swiftx1989 You can also get the gvwr reclassed if you really wanted to also, i just re cert the rigs i build, as they are for a government entity, the classification is online and through the truck body builders and ntea I think it was. But mainly comes down to common sense, you put 10k lbs in a 4k lb sack your going to notice if its not reinforced for it...haha
That wouldn’t be practical in the US for individuals unless you work with a qualified upfitter, which usually means substantial and expensive mods (like Earthroamer, for example). In Oz though, I hear it’s a routine and accessible practice.
@@swiftx1989 I get the not practical in the US part. I was just wondering if it was possible. If someone took a 4runner to a commercial upfitter could they get the 4runner back with a higher legal GVWR, keyword legal?
The Opinion of Matt I don’t believe non-commercial vehicles like a 4Runner can be re-certified, but I’m not 100% sure. Even if they could, the cost typically runs into the thousands of dollars. Most people would prefer to simply buy a better-suited vehicle.
Are you guys still using ICON suspensions? I heard you were having problems with them on IH8MUD. I have a stage 6 ICON 3.0 setup on my ‘19 200 30k with zero issues “so far”. They are absolutely amazing on and off road, probably the plushest I’ve used on previous 200’s. I keep hearing that King 2.5s or BP-51 is the more reliable way to go. Thoughts?
I'm just curious why you use Toyota Trucks and SUVs vs Jeep Wrangler/Gladiator. I know you have one Jeep Gladiator build, but you obviously prefer Toyota. Is there a reliability or performance benefit?
Hi Clay and Team - Not getting any younger and have worked very hard for decades. Not much time to be fully involved (wrenching full time) with a build. Stumbled on your show a month or so ago and especially: How We Build an Overlanding Vehicle: Expedition Overland 'Proven' Gear & Tactics. Can you direct me to a firm in USA (Western States) to build out my 2011 Sequoia Platinum before I get to far into it. Or is this something you can consult and spec out equipment, shocks, power management front end and rear etc? Thank you Kindly, Pete
Hey Pete! We currently don't have time to consult, but check out Mule Expedition Outfitters, Exploration Outfitters, Dark Horse Customs, and keep doing your research. Once you put together a list of what you want, you can make calls to quality shops to see if they can get you in. We have tons of blog posts to help with those questions, or check out our 'Gear We Use' page on our website. xoverland.com - Thank you!
Don't you think shocks are better to do once barwork trays/canopies are on ? You guys are pro and have this build stuff down to a fine art but an amateurs build is not perfect and not always ends up exactly how the original plan was going to be.
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I’m a huge fan of the show and a huge fan of the adventures, extremely jealous of the XO lifestyle. That said these “build” are extreme overkill for most. Don’t blow your money on stuff, blow your money on experiences. The PanAm was done in a 99% factory Jeep with a set of 5100 series shocks and proper tires.
Agreed! Experience is king. We build our rigs for very specific purposes of mobile production houses, lots of team members, long hours and days, and the best quality we can.
Building my 98 Tacoma 4x4 based on your principles... Tires, tools, gas and food. That's what I save my money for.
@@samueljlarson Awesome! Go for it! My comment is 2 years old now, however after listening to Clay and Rochelle on a few podcasts, I understand their builds a bit more. It is clear these builds are built for production, first and foremost. Going into this with that mindset changes things for me as a viewer rather than someone looking to get into extended travel or 'expeditions'. I am still a fan of XO (Thursdays are dad gets the TV at 9pm eastern night) and wish nothing but the best for the crew at XO. I envy what they do.
@@LifewithFrank I know what you mean. I do cheap trips / modifications out of necessity. One day if I have the resources, I may choose to spend more money. Overlanding in general is whatever you make it, and I love that about it. Thanks for the reply. See you out there!
Clay as usual you’ve made a lot of good points in a logical order, thank you...
Buy once, cry once. No better advice. When I was first getting into photography I read an article that said buy one good tripod rather than a half a dozen mediocre ones. I bought a Really Right Stuff tripod and ball head, they’ve never let me down in ten years of usage.
This video is just what I needed to hear. It's what every soon to be overlander, and even seasoned overlanders should watch. A healthy reminder never hurt. You just might even learn something. Keep the tips and advice coming!! Thanks Clay!! 👍
Thank you!
"... what do I really need first?"
A massive budget. 😘
I know. It makes me want to cry. LOL
Everything is a cry once buy once, save up and spend your money here, or buy a good quality one here...
Meh. Big Budgets are for form over function. My overland rig goes everywhere and has served me perfect. Haven't spent a ton of money. Doesn't always look perfect but is a work horse.
Buddy Blader not really, my stock Nissan Titan with M/T tires has gone just about anywhere I ever needed it to go and this dude said “don’t buy cheap LED lights” that’s bullshit. I spent $30 on amazon on my 20in led bar and $18 on the heavy duty wire kit and I’ve submerged it in water, mud, snow, ice, dust and it’s still working never had issues and it’s not fogging or anything. This guy is what we call a “Gear Queer” they think they have to have the top of the line everything I order to Overland and that’s so far from the truth!
I understand you have sponsors and certain obligations to fulfill, and good for you on obtaining that level of success! That being said it was really cool to see the GX460 in stock form take on the Rebelle Rally in one of the episodes this season. It would be really cool if you guys did a “back to basics” episode and just ran stock vehicles with maybe a set of all terrain tires just to see the capability of a stock vehicle. I think many people would be surprised that their vehicles are a lot more capable than they think.
woolengrappler I did Rim Road and Chicken Corners in Moab in a stock 2014 SR5 4Runner, only upgrade was tires
Fern Mon I’ve got a 2009 RAV4 with AWD and a center diff lock. It’s comfortable on the highway, gets good gas mileage, is easy to park, holds lots of camping gear and does great in snow and on forest road trails. I really want an LC next, but in reality most overland rigs in the USA spend 90% of their time on asphalt, not super technically rocky trails.
Love it and totally agree. Learn to drive smart and you can go almost anywhere.
@@ExpeditionOverland hey I got an idea for the ultimate off road off gird overlander
New gauntlet, do one of your previous routes with $5k cap in vehicle and gear, no donations or favors, and go! 😎
Yez
They would never. Have you watched their latest?
I’ve been encouraging, for contrast, buy a $3,000 Ford Ranger and use a $5,000 budget to go do a trip and see how she goes. :-)
The problem is they would be able to replicate the same trips and with less worry about body damage or voiding warranties. This would make all the expensive builds looks silly because lets face it, they are.
There is no way these dudes would risk their sponsorship vehicle like that. Their newest seasons are kinda a telltale sign that they don't have much adventure left in them. Key point, FLYING around the Salton sea in heavily populated southern California. This channel has become a cash grab hence this "overland build video". Its pretty sad considering their first 2 seasons were awesome. But thats what happens when you consider yourself an "overlander" and get any kind of attention from the internet.
I did some pretty steep breakovers on forest roads in my wife's Town and Country over Christmas break in north Georgia looking for waterfalls. She kept reminding me she had to use it to get to work. Maybe next time we go to the mountains she will let us take my Jeep. I say just go for it.
As I continue my research into my future "up-fitting" of a pickup/SUV, I watch a lot of these kinds of videos. This one I think is particularly well-scripted and well-presented by this Clay guy... he lends a boatload of credibility to the quality of work that his customers can expect. Expedition Overland is now on my shortlist!
Best mod in my 99 LX470 was removing 2nd and 3rd row seats - opened up a ton of room. Of course it’s just me and the dog so I don’t “need” the additional seats. I can store my Gazelle T4 tent inside along with all my other gear and still plenty I of room for the pup to ride/sleep
Have to say, ignore all the worthless negative comments. Clay, you and your group do a fantastic job and are much appreciated in the outdoor community. Keep up the good work. Look forward to your next adventures !
Have to agree... Since I found their videos here on RUclips Though i may not have their budget.. The XO crew has inspired our build for our trip to Alaska.
Great episode! A checklist of the steps you take to build it would be great! I feel like this gave an overview of what to look for, but having an organized way or a step-by-step guide would be awesome. I still enjoyed the fact that you brought up what are the parts that I should be spending money on!
I don't remember where I got this but " A stack of bills doesn't make up for a lack of skills!" Meaning start small and upgrade your experience before upgrading your gear.
Love that! Vehicle sympathy all the way.
First step: throw on some good tires and just get out. I see sooo many rigs people just fall into building and never even take out.
I am hesitant to do that without recovery gear. Remember that guy who got his 4Runner stuck in the frozen desert of Nevada?
@@davidharden8469 basic recovery gear is necessary. I've used a high lift, straps and shackles to hand winch in a tight spot before. Plan for what you have currently.
@@davidharden8469 that was pure negligence on his part. Everyone knows not to drive a "Dry" lake bed when it snows or rains. Turns into nothing but mud. Everyone warned against it and signs are posted. But you don't need full recovery gear to get out. A snatch strap or even traction mats are goood. Now if you want to do remote travel and more hardcore terrain then yes, a full recovery setup is reccomend. Just go and see what you can handle.
Agreed I'm seeing a lot of "overland vehicles" with very very clean wheel wells
@@TroutWest 95% of "Overland" vehicles are owned by people who want to look and feel adventurous but never leave the mall.
For those of us with a limited budget and vacation hours, plan your routes and activities, buy gears and do modifications accordingly. Say you want to do the White rim trail in Canyonlands, a set of good AT tires, a cheap 12v air pump, and a ground tent are all you need. If Death Valley is your destination, add a set of traction mats and a shovel for sands, it doesn’t have to be the 300 dollar Maxtrax, I used a shovel, the oem bottle jack, plywood for my bed platform to get out of a sand pit. Again, plan ahead, buy what is necessary within your budget, build your rig overtime and trips. And more importantly, build up your trail experience and skill sets, which imho, more important than bumpers, lights, expansive suspension lift kids or whatever gears we desire but don’t have the money for.
S L Yup, BF Goodridge KO2s are all I needed in Moab. I went slow but came out good. Upgrades I think will allow you to go faster.
Wisely said...SL...White Rim you don't even need 4x4...trail TAs worked fine...cool Mtn bike trail too...
For new people like myself who day dream about doing something like this, my biggest obstacle is that even if I had a dream setup or even if I just had a truck, I have no clue where I could go to enjoy such an investment. All of these videos seem to be out in Colorado or some remote far off places. It’s not that I couldn’t take a vacation and drive out to one of those areas, but I want to be able to “ get out there” more than once or twice a year. Can anyone suggest any sort of resource that I can use to educate myself where I may find suitable, closer areas to actually get out and go?
Adam Lee Start with alltrails.com.
S L I will check it out, thank you!
Agreed! Good video. Budget and or mechanical ability drive builds for most. I've figured out 3 major builds. 2 came to fruition. If possible I recommend saving the money to do most of it at once or it typically does not get done. For the mechanical people, the junkyard can be your friend. I have a lot of hours out in the yard. I definitely agree with some below. Don't just layout, design and build. Get out and have some fun.
I have been in the automotive industry for well over thirty years and I just stumbled onto this video. You really did a great job on this with some really sound and good advice!!! You craft some very nice rigs man!!
Thank you!
Valuable information Clay, Thanks!
I was freaking out that maybe I made a bad choice of my front bumper until I got to 13:00 since I already purchased my CBI Aluminum Front Bumper for my 2017 Tacoma. Thanks for making me feel happy and relieved with my choice.
ANAYALATOR OFF ROAD TACO but I would get a steel front skid since it takes the brunt of impacts.
Armand Couture Agreed, I already have a full CBI overland skids that are thick and heavy. 👍🏽
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. It was all solid advice and could save someone some heartache.
Just recently got into your channel, I'm 17 from the UK and overlanding is one of my dreams. This channel has inspired me so much, I've been binge watching all of your adventures. I hope to one day incorporate overlanding into a tv show about the natural wonders of the world. Keep it up!
Thank you so much! That would be an awesome show!
Great video, I’m a avid believer in buy once cry once. I’d just add to get sliders before bumpers, I love my bumpers/winch/lighting/lift etc etc etc, but sliders are relatively cheap and rocker/door damage sucks and adds up.
I agree, only thing I can think of before sliders is skid plates
That’s a good call. As with any mods it really comes down to what you plan to do with it. If you’re mostly planning to run dirt roads that have mud holes, you better not go alone or have a winch and traction mats. If you plan to be in some rocks or terrain that could pose a threat to your body, rocksliders would be a good start.
@@NarrowRoadAdventures - I agree, what you're going to be doing with the vehicle should always dictate the direction of the build.
Thanks for sharing all your experience. It's great to have a lot of detailed information in a short video.
I appriciate it!
That was GREAT! Doing a full build for a vehicle I am going to be buying. I have been thinking I was going crazy. " obsessing " So I feel a bit vindicated watching this, Knowing my Crazy Mapping out is truly the correct thing to do.....THANK YOU!
perfectly described. You have said a lot of things all the others don't. your thought out aproach works well. Exactly what I do.
Thank you!
Wow we just saw your 3 seasons on Amazon and watched them in two days
I wish we were in our 30’s or 40’s again
Really nice , especially the end of episode 3 , great job
That was totally great superb information sir. Thanks so much for taking the time and explaining so beautifully on how to go about building your vehicle. KUDOS 24👍
Thank you!
Great video, I recently purchased a 2017 Nissan Frontier Pro4x and it's a dream to drive. Now looking into overlanding and this video helped me focus my vision on where I want to go. Thank you!
Watched your shows on Amazon Prime and found my way here, Good stuff!!
Awesome! Welcome!
Nice to see a Kombi on your T-shirt Clay - finally starting to see the light amigo 😉
This video could not of come out at a better time. Finally starting to get more serious about doing an overland build on my jku and getting these tips are going to help out so much. I’m also become more of a just get out and travel and find out what you need instead of trying to plan so i hope that helps but also doesn’t hurt me at same time
First like and comment, dang. That's never happened.
I would just like to say I highly appreciate the time y'all put in to all your videos. I subbed back with your first expedition and it's been neat to watch not only the vehicle builds progress but your film making skills as well. Keep it up and cheers from Texas.
Thanks so much!! We appreciate the kind words!
Thanks so much for the tips and tricks! You guys have been very helpful in getting awesome advice and true inspiration to adventure off the beaten path! Looking forward to really getting moving on my own slow going 1st gen Tacoma adventurer. Doing things once, and doing them right!
Stepp nr.1 win the lottery
You guys do a great job and are very throughly explain. Thank You
Really good information, thank you.
Great information, Clay. Thank you.
I may be mistaken but did you install the suspension, wheels and tire package first and then add all that weight? I reversed that and did sliders, skids, bumpers, bed racks and the winch first. Now I could actually see what all that weight did to the truck, giving me a better idea of what suspension package I needed to get the height I wanted. In any event this was a great video and I was glad to see you put an emphasis on buying quality components and first class workmanship.
I think for most people this is going to look like as follows;
-Getting your vehicle's stock suspension in good working order(repair/replace bad ball joints, tie rod ends, etc)., maybe throw some Bilstein shocks on there
-all terrain tires
-winch
-recovery gear
-food storage
Beyond that is probably tough for most people's budget
super informative, thanks so much.
Great tips, agree on all fronts except maybe suspension. You guys build a lot of Toyota’s, and OME is generally considered the “cheap” option but it’s also exceptionally durable. I’ve run OME on built 200 Series cruisers and FJ Cruisers for years without any issues.
New subscriber...I've watched a few of your videos & they are very informative, nice editing & just over all great! Thanks!
Welcome and thank you!
So basically... Don't cheap out on anything, do it right the first time, buy once cry once, better to save and buy something nice than get cheaper gear
I would like to see y’all use a Nissan Xterra or frontier for overlanding.
Nice video Clay! Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Clay touched on it, but weight is a killer if going for a full build. Keep a detailed spreadsheet of each item you add, and weigh all your smaller gear that are in bags/boxes that get put in as well. Good idea to take your stock truck (or pre-build) to a scale and have it weighed with a full tank of fuel to establish your baseline. Limit how much weight is aft of the rear axle, and don't go crazy bolting on stuff to a roof rack if at all possible. Sometimes it is just unavoidable, but keep in mind the consequences.
Comprehensive! Great content here, thank you!
Good info, thanks
This is exactly what I was looking for! How to start and proceed in a build. Thank you!
Just keep it simple. This advice is for a truck thats going to be shipped around the world and used in extremely remote areas. If that doesnt sound like you then almost everything in this video is overkill.
@@kelkev85 Thanks! I'm staying fairly stock on my 2004 F150 4x4. Just the engine still feels strong and runs well 4.6L V8. Just had the frame gone over and welded up the soft spots, many due to Nor'east winter roads (salt). Yearly inspection done so good to continue I figure. I'd like to raise the body an 1" or so (have tapped front and rear bumpers on entry/exit) and as due move back to my Wrangler AT's (2" taller than the street/AT's on there now). I know swapping out the tires will help a lot. Next move is why I subscribed here, to learn. I have the 8.8 / 3.55 open rear diff, thinking a good move is to swap to a LS. Pro's/Con's to doing so?
@@olddawgsrule Hey Bob, no real cons to adding an LSD except initial cost ofcourse. I like detroit true trac personally which does not use clutch packs that can wear out over time. Locking differial is another good option, not much more expensive and it can be turned off when not needed which is going to be 99% of the time. Also those 1/2 ton trucks tend to have a lower front end, that may need to be addresses like you mentioned.
@@kelkev85 I had the opportunity to look over a lifted F250. Like me, he wasn't looking to raise much. He did a 2" spacer(?) over the front coils. Hadn't seen this in my researching.. Interesting! Pro's/Con's?
@@olddawgsrule spacers are the cheapest way to increase ride height but it will actually limit down travel if you retain the stock control arms.
Thank you
Best video yet 👍🏻
Thank you clay!
Very helpful info. Thanks
I am planning to purchase a stock jeep. Anything from mid 70e through mix 90s . then enjoy the ride and adventures falling the way. No worries about the age or capability. Just t o have a good time with good people thanks for a great video.
excellent show -now want to get out -so better starting sorting the truck out
Awesome Video thanks for the advice
Very easy. Money and lots of it.
Oh hey there!! We miss that guy. Hope all is well with him.
He's great! Married Heather and settled down :)
Loving all the new videos! I’m surprised you didn’t say winch and recovery first, I trust you knowledge and experience but I was definitely surprised
Better suspension and a hybrid bumper are the first two items that I want to do.
Do you have lockers? If not I would do lockers before the bumpers. At least in the rear. What vehicle?
@@gamesofcontent I don't agree. It's a 2017 Tacoma TRD Sport, and the newfangled LSD. It's leveled on 32s. 90,000 km on these shocks....
@@davidryde6296 limited slip will absolutely help. However, I have never seen someone get stuck and say man if I had only had off road bumpers, but most people who get stuck wouldnt have with lockers.
But hey it's your truck, build it and use it the way you want. Have fun
@@gamesofcontent it's not my trail rig, so different priorities. My 04 Xterra is probably going to get all of the goodies.
Nice video, keep them coming!
That last quote is de Saint-Exupéry's quote, just adapted.
First step to an Overland build, have a boat load of sponsors.
Right, I get their sponsored and need most stuff but gah dam ain't everybody got 100k to build a camping rig
Aluminum bush gaurd will do very little for you in the event of an animal strike
Dr. Malcom lives lol
Great video. After watching some of your video series on your adventures, Whats your opinion on the IFS set up (like on the Toyota) vs a solid axle set up? Im starting to look at options to start building a overlanding rig out of a S Series Blazer, and haven't whether I would keep the IFS setup or converting it to a solid axle from a reliability standpoint.
Have you ever modified one of the new Volvo XC90? I was thinking about what a lifted suv would look like with overland capabilities
I'd say super charger is ok. Just make sure you have more power and a clean air source. Helps gass milage if you drive that way and can have more power when needed. But gears would be best.
There is a lot of great advice in this video, however... "Buy once cry once" comes up at every category, and I don't think that (especially in your first overlander), it applies everywhere. You don't need to spend top-dollar on every piece of gear, and you don't need the best quality from everything, unless you have an unlimited or huge budget, especially since you don't even know what kind of gear will work for you.
it's like building a workshop: when you have a complete shop, you start buying more expensive tools to increase quality, but do you need to blow half your budget on a welder and skip on buying, let's say a vice? No. Lights, for example, are a very good place to save some money in overlanding: you need them, but the type of lights you need varies greatly based on the terrain you want to tackle. You don't need epic spotlights for narrow and winding forest service roads, for example.
If you don't plan on doing serious off-roading, but want to have a backup plan for getting stuck, you don't need the highest quality winch. It's best to buy adequate quality gear, the go out, get as much experience as you can and pay attention to what works and what doesn't, you you know where to pay top dollar when you want to upgrade.
Would a mildly turned up 4bt cummins be good for overlanding in your opinion
Diggin' the series. Thanks for sharing. Any idea if you will cover weapons for any of your expeditions, specifically mounting ideas... considering your relationship with Magpul? And if you hadn't thought of doing it, and are now considering it, I wear a 3XL t-shirt! Keep up the good work.
Great information! I’m new to the overland community and every advice helps. My first mods will be suspension, tires and gears. Is that a good start?
Thank you so much for the thorough information. Quite inspiring. Wondering if it's possible for me to drive my 2011 Volvo XC70 from Toronto to Yukon......
ur absolutely right about balancing the vehicle!!! but how do we do it??? how do we distribute the weight by installing a rear canopy & tray in a ISUZU D-MAX 4WD Pickup Truck (for example)???
@ Chandrachur Niyogi - Coming from an aviation background myself I know pilots need to preform this function as a regular duty. If you could get your vehicle weighed that’ll determine the distribution as well as a “center”. From there it’s a case of everything you add on will affect the balance either fore or aft of that “center”. Th ere are apps for weight and balance meant for aircraft/pilot usage but I’m thinking with a little thought they might be useful for setting up a vehicle as well.
I want a diesel Tacoma so I'm going to put a 1980s 4bt maybe a 6BT it fits in a Tacoma
Is that a Ford in your closing statements of this video. Bronco sport? Ranger SUV? I can't see the badge but it surea looks like a ranger front clip. Can't wait to see he answer
I like your T shirt. 😁
Have you swap for a 4bt motor, or would suggest it to anyone who is wanting to swap.
In building out a vehicle that you will be taking across a border, do you ever have to take into consideration that some border crossings will weigh your vehicle and compare the weight to the GVWR? While upgrading suspension makes carrying loads easier, it can push the weight over the factory GVWR once everything is loaded. I’ve read in some channels that Canada is one such country that may opt to weigh a clearly loaded vehicle and not allow through if over the GVWR. I’ve crossed into Canada dozens of times, but to this point it has never been in a loaded 4x4 rig. Thanks!
Really like those kinds of videos. Thanks for making them. What is your opinion on Portal Axles? Are you considering those and what are your reasons to or not to install them? Would you recommend installing diff lockers, at what point and what system would you go for, air or electric? Thanks so far. Greetings from Austria.
Thanks for putting this video out. What do think of Comeup brand winch
Until a few years ago when he died. I had to deal with my stepfather's "help". He was a Model T mechanic and never understood the need to do the better or the right way. He would do it and then I had to do it over spending more money. I had a Mustang 5.0 that needed a new muffler. I set an appointment to get it replaced. I needed him to take it because i was working 3rd shift. When I got up he told me I saved you a bunch of money. I went to work and something didn't seem right but i couldn't pin it down. The next morning going home I tried to accelerate into traffic. Only I had no pressure on the gas pedal and nearly got creamed by an idiot. I got home and he goes "I had them put on one muffler and pipe." You can imagine what I wanted to say. Another time he goes I can fix that, I said what? That noise when you start the car. That's what a 5.0 supposed to sound like. I have other stories.
So what is proven for off-road or overlanding, is it better having wide or narrow tires? I haven’t seen that discussed in your videos, what do you think?
Andrew St. Pierre-White did a video on this. Ronny Dahl did as well, I think.
Gino Zahnd I know ASPW did, Ronny Dahl didn’t do one yet. ASPW said skinnies have more advantages over wide tires. Sadly, tire manufacturers only make wide tires for taller sizes. All the narrow sizes aren’t that tall.
If off-road is what you want, big fat tires are better. For overlanding, tall and skinny are better. What I am saying is that depends on your definition of off-road and overlanding, these two may not be equal to each other. My definition of overlanding includes a substantial amount of highway travel as well as off-road trails, and I don’t go overlanding in the winter so I don’t need the floatation of wider tire on snow. Narrow tires are quieter, more economical to run, less ware to axle bearings, while wider tires offer a slightly better cornering because of the wider stand, better on deep sand/mud/snow, plus it looks cool. It is a matter of preference.
S L good input, all agreeable points but doesn’t narrow tires give more pounds per square inch of force when aired down for maximum traction? Wide tires push more sand when aired down, narrow tires dig down through mud and snow to find traction if there’s a solid ground beneath. I think it also depends on the terrain but you can’t just switch between narrow and wide so I agree with Andrew saint Pierre white that narrow tires have more benefits than downsides.
Hema Nigansz while air down, wider tires with the same diameter do offer better floatation, thus traction, on DEEP sand/mud/snow over narrow tires. In sand and mud, it is true that narrow tires dig down to find traction, but if they dig all the way the axles, or even the frame, you are going nowhere. On snow, wider tire pack more snow into snow pack to gain traction, that is why snow cats use very wide tracks. Same with sand and mud, mud tires grab materials around and under it, pack them down to gain traction, that is why wider is better in these cases.
I have a 2014 Chevy Silverado 1500 crew cab 4wd wt that I’m putting a go fast camper on. I’d like to build the truck out so it’s overland capable with an onboard water tank, as I’m looking at the things I’d like to add and considering the weight it will add once bed storage and gear is added the truck will be close to its 7100lb payload capacity. I’m a novice to this kind of things so I am wondering what suspension parts and components would you recommend using for my Silverado build? I’d appreciate any helpful advice.
The best mode of transport for extreme over landing that has been used on more sucessful overland journeys than any other is a horse or camel. You keep your chosen vehicle as close to the pure simplicity of one of these creatures you have naied it. Go stock, your wallet sapping add ons will be unrepairable and unreplaceable once off the beaten track. Steel can be welded fom Africa, saharah, South American jungle logging camp to the Mongolian steps, fancy lightweight alloys will be a challenge. Fuel filters and in line fuel filters will clog quickly with the poor fuel you will take on board so take spares, same with air filters. Standard bulbs are available worldwide, fancy bi xenon or led, no chance. Go lightweight , it puts less strain on your vehicle, strip everything out that's not needed. Try to go diesel, naturally aspirated pre electronic engine management and no electric windows, immobilisers ect. Use simple steel wheel rims and reinforced side wall tyres, no bead lockers or alloys. Also remember wheels are winches, learn how to do it. A farm jack is easier, cheaper, lighter and bomb proof, you can winch and jack with it and they cost nothing compared to a electronic bumper whinch, wire and battery set up. Wrap a piece of yellow electrical tape around your steering wheel at the 12 o'clock position, if you need to ask why you are not ready to drive off road yet. Don't set rigid time schedules for your journey, you will just stress out trying too keep to it. Check, double check then check again that you have all the correct admin and documents for you and your vehicle to cross borders and have cash in local currency to grease your way through those who will expect a back hander no matter how good your documents are, be aware rules change frsquently. Many countries require vehicles to carry a hiviz vest or jacket , a breatherliser kit, headlamp beam deflectors, and all sorts of odd stuff so check ahead.
How do i find people that do Overlanding? I've got a halfway decent build on my f150 and would like to do some adventuring but would like to do it with a group rather than alone. any tips on how to find some fellow overlanders?
Great question! Check out facebook groups - facebook.com/groups/overlandercommunity // Check out Expedition Portal or google your states local 4x4 group. Events are a great way to meet others as well - Check out Overland Expo West. Good luck!
How did you guys sort the freezing fuel tank issue.
Hi Clay, thanks for the great video, very educational and helpful for lots of folks here I believe. I have a question, how do you define the definition of a good weight distribution for the vehicle? Do you have any hints or can create another video in the future to talk about more on the lift +weight + safety to build the overland vehicle?
See Andrew St. Pierre’s overland workshop. He and Paul Marsh go into this in depth.
Think about the dense, heavy stuff. Fuel, water, batteries, spare wheel/tire, tools, refridgerated food/drink. If you can keep it low or between the axles it will help with the handling. The nifty drawer systems help with this too by pushing heavy items further forward above the rear axle so the truck isn't too low in the rear when driving. For example, on cheap Jeep builds people will put the bigger spare on the roof, which can make the truck more tippy. I'm not much of a fan of removing the stock spare because its typically part of the crash structure of a car. But this does limit the size of the spare tire. An external spare tire mount on the rear (hitch receiver spare mounts are much cheaper than a fancy bumper) is better than on the roof for center of gravity and then use the stock spare in the vehicle to store tools or water. The roof is for bulky items that hopefully aren't very heavy. I do like this video's approach to think through what you want to do with the truck (hopefully before you have the truck!) and tailor it to you needs but I can see how expensive this can get. Some here have said that going too big on tires or engine power can make the project get out of hand when sticking closer to stock tire sizes and lift height with fair underbody protection and well-used recovery gear will keep the truck reliable and daily-usable. I hope this helps Kenneth!
The biggest question I always come back to is payload. Adding stiffer springs may make carrying the weight better, but it doesn't change the rating on the sticker inside the driver's door. Without looking it up most SUVs, mid-size and 1/2 ton trucks have payload ratings some where between 800# and 1600#. This seems to raise the choice between passengers, gear/equipment, or off road upgrades. Is this just a "dirty little secret" of the overland community or is there a good way to balance it all and still be legal?
Edited to add question mark. :)
The Opinion of Matt - few people worry about GVWR, and those who don’t rarely venture very far. Limited payload is why extended trips are usually made on vehicles originally intended for commercial use, like LC70 series, Sprinter vans, or HD pickups. Those who go in SUVs or 1/2 tons travel really light, most don’t have heavy off-road armor or more than 2 people. For short trips you’ll be fine, other than the possibility of a denied insurance claim in case of a crash, if they figure out you were grossly (ha!) overweight.....
@@swiftx1989 You can also get the gvwr reclassed if you really wanted to also, i just re cert the rigs i build, as they are for a government entity, the classification is online and through the truck body builders and ntea I think it was. But mainly comes down to common sense, you put 10k lbs in a 4k lb sack your going to notice if its not reinforced for it...haha
That wouldn’t be practical in the US for individuals unless you work with a qualified upfitter, which usually means substantial and expensive mods (like Earthroamer, for example). In Oz though, I hear it’s a routine and accessible practice.
@@swiftx1989 I get the not practical in the US part. I was just wondering if it was possible. If someone took a 4runner to a commercial upfitter could they get the 4runner back with a higher legal GVWR, keyword legal?
The Opinion of Matt I don’t believe non-commercial vehicles like a 4Runner can be re-certified, but I’m not 100% sure. Even if they could, the cost typically runs into the thousands of dollars. Most people would prefer to simply buy a better-suited vehicle.
10:04 looks like some sort of fluid tank under the battery, may I ask what kind of the fluid tank hold?
Are you guys still using ICON suspensions? I heard you were having problems with them on IH8MUD. I have a stage 6 ICON 3.0 setup on my ‘19 200 30k with zero issues “so far”. They are absolutely amazing on and off road, probably the plushest I’ve used on previous 200’s. I keep hearing that King 2.5s or BP-51 is the more reliable way to go. Thoughts?
Still using them for sure! No problems on our end. Sometimes we test prototypes and provide feedback on those, but no issues on our end!
So I just purchased a Chevy bison. What should I add?
Are there places that actually sells and installs all these?
Planning on a tundra this year..Built for overland....pop up,gas ,spare tire, gear...any advice on suspension preference?
This should be called how to TALK about About building an overlaid vehicle. 😏
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No mention of wheel or tire size? I'm running 18" wheels and 35" nitto ridge grapplers
I'm just curious why you use Toyota Trucks and SUVs vs Jeep Wrangler/Gladiator. I know you have one Jeep Gladiator build, but you obviously prefer Toyota. Is there a reliability or performance benefit?
Hi Clay and Team - Not getting any younger and have worked very hard for decades. Not much time to be fully involved (wrenching full time) with a build. Stumbled on your show a month or so ago and especially: How We Build an Overlanding Vehicle: Expedition Overland 'Proven' Gear & Tactics.
Can you direct me to a firm in USA (Western States) to build out my 2011 Sequoia Platinum before I get to far into it. Or is this something you can consult and spec out equipment, shocks, power management front end and rear etc?
Thank you Kindly,
Pete
Hey Pete! We currently don't have time to consult, but check out Mule Expedition Outfitters, Exploration Outfitters, Dark Horse Customs, and keep doing your research. Once you put together a list of what you want, you can make calls to quality shops to see if they can get you in. We have tons of blog posts to help with those questions, or check out our 'Gear We Use' page on our website. xoverland.com - Thank you!
Just throw a bunch of money at it!
Don't you think shocks are better to do once barwork trays/canopies are on ?
You guys are pro and have this build stuff down to a fine art but an amateurs build is not perfect and not always ends up exactly how the original plan was going to be.