What You Need to Know! - Whole Shop Air Compressor Install - Pex Pipe for Air Lines
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Here are the things we learned on our whole shop air compressor install. We installed Pex plumbing for our airlines with EvoPex fittings. We used brass fittings to connect the Pex to our air fittings. We found JB Weld blue threadlocker to be the key to properly sealing our fittings to avoid leaks.
Rectorseal Pipe Dope. That's what you need. I've never gone back to thread tape after using it. Works for water, air, and gas.
How hard is it remove later?
Easy. Much easier than thread locker. And far cheaper.
Video nicely done! I worked at Caterpillar for a number of years, and our top cnc maintenance tech would use teflon tape, AND pipe dope. Thought it was worth mentioning. Have a great weekend!
Never bought in to using both. Use the dope for most everything. Tape if there's nothing else available.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. Very practical and not over complicated at all.
Thanks for the comment!
You ever think about adopting a 38-year-old son from Indiana? I can just sleep on the leftover horse mat. That garage is going to rock!
Lol. Always room for one more, come on over and bring projects! Lol We expect visitors when the shop is up and running!
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead I cover all the way over to Maysville and Morehead for my territory at work. I might someday coordinate with you and buy you a meal at a local restaurant to soak up some of your homesteading wisdom.
@@FabbedFun I’m gonna hold you to it.
I like the “we went the free method”😉😂👍🏻. Nice setup Lucas 🙋🏼♂️🙂👍🏻
You can’t beat the price of free! 😂👍
Great video, thank you for taking the time to show this install.
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful!
Great video, looking forward to see how you set everything up.
Thank you! We stood up the posts for the lift last night. I will be assembling all of that the next couple of evenings. It is a lot of fun seeing this dream come together.
Fantastic information, I’m opening my own auto repair shop and was thinking about running pex line but wasn’t sure on how to run the lines and all but now I know. Thank you!
Good luck on the new shop!
Thanks for the video. Gave me a lot of good info to plumb my shop
Great information Lucas👍the shop is coming together nicely. I can’t wait to see your projects that come out of the shop😁👍🚜💨💡
Thanks, Mitch! Neither can my wife, she’s waiting for me to get her Bug running. Lol
Great followup video and information. Thanks Lucas!
Thanks, Ross!
Absolutely great video Lucas! And yes, shut off the air when you`re not using it, and also turn the power switch off too when you`re not in the shop. Safety First!
Thanks, Buddy! I actually didn’t even think to flip the power switch. I’m going to do that to.
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead You`re very welcome brother.
I have one rule in my shops... if i`m not in the shop, everything gets 100% turned off if it isn`t needed.
We had a fire one time years ago... a compressor switch caught fire. We had a total garage & content loss.
I do NOT leave anything powered anymore when i`m not in the shop. When i leave the shop, i pull the main panel breaker to "OFF".
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead ANOTHER TIP WELL I THINK, I HAD 2 OVERHEAD CRANES BOTH 2 TON EACH!! AND AT NITE WHEN WE WERE LEAVING WAS TO SHUT OFF THE BREAKERS TO THE CRANES, ALL AFTER 1 MORN. ONE OF MY TRUCKS WITH A LEAN!!! SOME SOPOKED THEM OFF ! DONE, THANKS ALL
Thanks for the tips on the EVO Pex connectors. Always use the paste for NT fittings.
Thanks, I appreciate you watching!
Great info Lucas! Thank you for posting!
Thanks for stopping by!
Awesome information, thanks. I would like to see an update on how your garage looks now and if you like the system you installed.
Wow, what my husbands shop dreams are made of! Nice!!!
Mine too! I can’t believe it is almost finished. This has been a complete Do-it-yourself project and that is the only way I could have this. Thanks for stopping by!
Thanks for the lock tight tip. I plumbed my garage no leaks first time using the orange.
Right on! Glad it worked!
Starts at 3:00. As a professional, I can say to use brass fittings only. Throw the teflon tape away- use a good pipe dope like rectorseal with teflon or the yellow. You can use the stainless steel crimps just fine and they will hold better psi. Pex will not last exposed to the sun or UV light. Use drip legs at each drop with a valve to drain it.
Pex has UV stabilizers in it and has been that way for a while. I have a outdoor run that's been completely exposed for 6 plus years now and it's hasn't faded, or failed.
@@T6Tarek Most piping is expected to last a near lifetime or 30-40 years. Exposed to sun, the pex will fail. But it's easy to replace, so....
Great video thanks!!!
Great video, thanks for the info
Thanks for watching! I appreciate that.
I've always sealed my threaded air connections with clear silicone caulk. It has never failed me, and it's easy to remove. The viscosity is thick enough to take pressure immediately after assembly.
That’s interesting, I never even thought of that. 👊
Good information
Thank you
Thanks for watching!
One great alternative to the rubber pads under the compressor feet is hockey pucks! Thats what my 60 gallon compressor sits on and there is no vibration and it helps make it quieter
great video. I have the same compressor from TSC. Partially hooked up. Wired, brass fittings off tank and one quick disconnect. Think I'll go the pex route in my garage also. PS new brass fitting threads are garbage which sucks because NPT seals on the threads. Mine leak also.
I am really happy with the whole setup. We were using it tonight and ran hoses from several spots and that was handy. It doesn’t leak off at all and the compressor is quick and quiet. It’s great for my little shop. Thanks for the comment!
About 3 yrs. ago I did PEX with crimped fittings and it’s doing well. On the the vertical line on the back wall, I’d suggest a tee then a short line with a ball valve so you can drain that run. A lot of air cooling will occur on that long line.
Shop is looking good 👍
Thanks for the tip. I’ll look into that. 👍
I put hockey pucks under the feet of my compressor, been working great so far.
That’s a great idea!
Me too 👍
Teflon tape is to lubricate the threads. It has limeted sealing properties. I have used a ton of teflon tape for seal. But lock tite has a pipe sealant that works great.
Your joking about the Teflon tape right.
You will regret not using at least 3/4" pipe with such long pipe runs. Too much resistance to flow through 1/2" pipe. Air tools on your back wall drops will run poorly.
I’d say you’d be right if I was running a lot of traditional air tools, but I have mostly switched over to battery tools. So far I’m really only using it for tires, blow gun, and painting…
I always love pex pipe 👍👍 so much better than copper
Believe it or not, this is the first time I’ve used it. I’m converted!
Matt Reisinger did a burst test and most PEX got up to 500psi or more before failing. That was liquid pressure and not air pressure. That being said, I think the PEX should handle the average 120psi most air lines see no problem.
Excellent video, thank you. Was there a reason you used wall mount outlets vs. Retractable ceiling mounted units ? The reason I ask is that with the former you end up with hoses snaking all over the floor.
Connect air compressor to your shop lights so when you turn lights out it’s off that how big shops do it. Nice video
That’s a cool idea!
At my job we use a black pipe thread sealer (I think it is Permatex). We call it black death cause once it dries it is a b**** to get apart. It works well with out 600 - 1300 PSI applications. Pretty much guaranteed to never leak.
Oh yeah, I’m sure that’s the good stuff!
Hockey picks work for rubber isolators.
Ron Ross, I was looking for information on compressor lines, thank you. I am retiring within two weeks at 67. I work for a very large utility company in the USA. I did notice your electrical. I am a journeyman electrician. In a shop environment I prefer metal outlet box covers. I also do not use the cheap duplex outlets. I do not know which ones you purchased. Most people do not know the difference between the open bin fifty cent outlets and the good stuff. They think cheap is good enough. However, the cheap ones are made out of cheap plastic. They break very easy with minor sideways strain on the plugged in cord. Also, you should have no more than three outlets per circuit.
Also, I am going to run PVC pipe for my air lines and water. These circuits are to be in my garage. I need to run water to the garage door area so that I can hose off a car or wash down my front door area. The airline will be from one side to the other. From the compressor to a bead blast booth on the other side of the garage. It will be located above the two-car garage door.
Great information! Thanks for sharing!
Most plumbers I know use PTFE pipe dope AND teflon tape on threaded brass fittings.
Wow😍
Great info, buddy. I'm really looking forward to the lift videos. How much clearance you figure you'll have with it raised all the way up?
The lift has an overhead bar with a safety stop. It will raise a vehicle 6’ high. I cut it very close. We are working on the install now and it requires 1” clearance above the posts and that is exactly what I have. Lol. I would like to claim precision building, but I mostly got lucky. 🤣
Shhhh we know you planned it perfectly. ;)
Never tried the JB Weld stuff, but the Permatex white thread sealer beats PTFE tape all around.
I hadn’t either, I didn’t even realize they made thread locker. Its holding up just fine though.
I use Gasoila pipe dope on all my fittings brass or steel and i never have a leak. Suggestion when you run your air lines put a drip leg and a valve at the outlet you will get a ton of water out of them . Even better i bought a refrigerated dryer and man does it make air tools last longer .
Thanks for the tips
I vote for rectorSeal pipe thread sealant over loctite.
The fact that all your brass fittings leaked using teflon tape tells me there is a consistent issue with your application. I have used teflon tape on brass fittings, steel fittings, etc and no issues for many years. Proper tape, 4 wraps clockwise when facing the threaded end, and proper torque. Too much torque damages parts. The liquid pipe dope works great as a time saver.
I love my air setup, but I find that any tool that I have a battery equivalent, I no longer use. Pretty much I'm down to the paint sprayer, ratchet, hammer, and inflator/air nozel on the pneumatic system.
The ~20v equivalents have just gotten too good and so much more convient. (Impact driver, sander, nailers.)
This is very true! I started realizing how little I will use air tools when we tarted working with battery tools.
A concern is the temperature of the air entering your PEX piping. Yes, PEX is rated for residential hot water systems perhaps at 130 degrees max temperature. Frequently, the air entering the system can exceed this temperature and severely compromised the PEXs burst strength. As a test you might want to use a non contact, infrared thermometer at the first air input to give yourself piece of mind as to the safety of your system. This is a huge issue when PVC piping is used for compressed air distribution. There have been fatalities from flying shards of PVC shrapnel.
After several cycles on and off the feed hose isn’t even warm to the touch.
@@SVThailand yeah, I use a rubber lead-in hose that accomplishes that. Haven’t had any issues.
Hi Lucas , did you use pex A or pex B. Thanks mate ☺️👍
I used B
You may want to look up how to muffle the sound of your air compressor. 75% of the noise output from a compressor comes from the air intake. It is very easy to muffle without restricting the intake on a compressor. There are hundreds of RUclips how-to videos from commercial $1000.00 applications to the DIY free versions. The high RPM that the Dewalt or many newer Ingersoll Rand units use to produce air is much higher than the older pumps and the dba output is extremely annoying to work around,. You can lower the decibels on your air compressor for very little $$ or maybe even for free if you have the material lying around to do so.
Nice! I will do that! Thanks!
None of the Maxline kits provide regulators etc so guaranteed you are money ahead using Pex and Pex fittings.
That’s a good point
Pro tip you can use the roto hammer to drive the bolts into the concrete it works better then hammering it
Thanks! I appreciate the tip!
How do you do that exactly? Is there a driver bit you use? Thx
Go Cleetus
I'm curious. Those fittings look like restrictions. Do you have flow issues? Have you tried running an air tool that takes a lot of volume? Tried taking an impact and busting a seized bolt yet?
That is a good question. I can’t say I have really worked it too hard. I’ve found we are switching to a lot of battery tools so I’m mostly airing up tires and using the blow gun. Ill try to update when I have a definitive answer.
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Yeah, I'm about to do my shop. I'm 36, and I've been using compressors with holes in the tank all my life, in the garage. I've never had a great compressor. Tonight, the ancient POS compressor I got at a yardsale for 30 bucks finally busted a hole too big to repair. I'm going out to get a nice stand up unit tomorrow.
@@highplainshollarhomestead3188 nice! Congrats! I will say, the way I plumbed my shop cost me just as much as buying a good air line kit and if I had it to do over again that is the route I would go. Probably a better product in the end.
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead I haven't priced any of the plumbing yet. In my mind I was thinking steel headers and drops like in most industrial places I've seen.
I used 3/4 PEX and 1/2” fittings where possible for more volume and flow.
We’ve had pex pipe in our shop for years just watch out getting something cought on it and break a line
Thanks for the heads up!
I think it would have been a little cheaper if you had bought the pex clamp system instead of the push fittings, they cost a lot more.
You are exactly right. I really didn’t think that through, but I’m sure it would have saved me money.
Plus the brass fittings are reusable, you only have to cut off the compression rings to change things later.
What is that wall covering you got there? Insulated?
It is foam board insulation. It’s the best we could afford while building. We are starting to cover the bottom areas now to protect the foam…
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead happy with it? Where’d you get it?
@@av8r1999 for the money, yes. It was $700 at Lowe’s for enough to do the whole shop. Every other option we could find was going to be several thousand.
@Peek's Peak Hobby Homestead if you want to add more insulation look into the home spray foam kits. I started with 1in white foam like your style and then bought a couple DIY 2 part spray foam kits and added another 2inches of foam. My r value is about 17 to 21 so I can't complain about that. I found the kits online and total for foam board and spray foam was about 1k
Did you use Pex A or Pex B pipe
I used B. I’ll be honest, I didn’t even know the difference. It has been trouble free for over a year now.
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead thanks
What insulation is that
It is Poly-Foam board from Lowe’s.
The way You've done this and air tools dont like water id add a coil pipe (copper) down into a cold 5 gallon bucket of water then add my
Separator a foot or 2 up, best to do this off the pump then into the tank
It will keep water out of your tank as air compressors rust out from the inside. But you can also do it out of the compressor tank before it goes into your pex.
If your painting cars this will give you dry air. Youll still want seprators, also a drip line at each tap about 6" long. We did a machine shop with pvc 3/4 and 1" about a 1/4 mile long, and yes we had blowouts when some yo yo pulled to hard on a hose, but the fix only too a few min we kept extra pipe on hand and it held i think to 250 psi. But this was a big commercial shop with cnc machines that used a lot of air.
Yes, I didn’t know about drip lines. I do have a drain line on the tank and I open it to empty the water every time I use it…
Every single time i've used teflon tape on a 1/2" connection it leaked.Nerve wrecking.Indeed thread lock is the way to go,be sure to leave it 24hrs before pressurizing it.
Try blue monster Teflon tape. You'll never have issues again. The standard white cheap stuff is total trash
plastic pipe will deuterate in time ?? been there done that ??
How did your Pex fail?
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead being he emphasized plastic, im wondering if he didnt try and use PVC or nylon or some other non-pressure type stuff... lol
Agree, probably PVC or some other form of plastic.
Pex is plastic and if 10 years old or newer it's treated with UV stabilizers. PVC and CPVC are totally different and will fail over time. With exposure to light they get brittle over time.
Hey son, you need to go back to school boy!
Pretty sure all you needed was pipe dope no thread lock
Yeah, I’d say you are probably right…
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead What was your overall cost outa pocket for the plumbing and how long did it take ?
@@josea.salazar8306 I can’t remember the exact cost, but I’d say I was pushing $250 or $300 for regulators and all. Just over a hundred feet of pipe. I did the plumbing in just a few hours, but several trips to the store…lol
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Thank you really appreciate. Been plumbing for about 2 years and Buddy of mine wants me to repipe his shop and I don’t know what to charge. This helps give me an idea
@@josea.salazar8306 Nice! Thanks for watching!
50' hose real harbor freight $150.00 20 min install.
Why so many regulators
So we can full pressure in any location while regulating pressure at others. Not really necessary. We just decided to do it.