Korean Stick Showdown - Crown vs. Taeyoung vs. Myoungshin Review
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- Опубликовано: 17 янв 2018
- In this video, I will go over the differences and the plus and minuses of 3 of the most popular Korean style fightstick levers. Featuring the Crown 307FJ, Taeyoung Fanta, and the Myoungshin Fanta.
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Very informative noice vid~ Currently own a Razer Panthera though haven't gotten to changing the gate, nor buttons
The buttons of the Panthera are already Sanwa... you can't get much better than those ;P (unless you prefer other colors).
Thank God! I found a video that proves crown can be fitted in qanba drone. This is very helpful, I hope we can see how did you fit the crown lever at the drone. Thank you.
Yes, it's a tight squeeze, but it is definitely possible.
@@jacsmi have you a video on putting it on the drone? Sir?
@@nitrohunter550 Unfortunately I didn't make a video for that one. Sorry.
@@jacsmi it's okay confirming that it fits will do.
@@nitrohunter550 Yep, it fits, but you have to bend some of the pins to squeeze it in.
My only complain about the Myoungshin is it tends to cancel everything too quickly so I often get hit by rather easily steppable moves as it cancelled my SS
did you drill your panthera too?
Joseph Do
I'm soon to be purchasing a Etokki Omni Korean, it comes stock with a Taeyoung Fanta, I can purchase a Myoungshin Fanta with my order. The question is, are these two sticks the same, except that the Myoungshin has a stiffer grommet? If that's the case I would only need to purchase a stiffer grommet for the Taeyoung right? Unless the Myoungshin is more accurate or is different like having a short throw or some other different aspect to take into consideration.
The are relatively the same other than the grommet stiffness. There are slight differences like the size of the battop is slightly different. And the finish of the Myoungshin is shiny vs the Taeyoung being matted. And other slight differences like that.
Also I think the shape of the grommet is slightly different... which gives you different throw and resistance
@@jacsmi is the myongshin grommet stiffness compared to 35g stiffness of 309mj grommet ?
This actually makes me wonder if the Crown 307FJ would work better, and cleaner without the spring. Given I've accidentally forgot to put the spring back into the stick once, when i was changing rubber grommets and it still worked very well. However, now I question if I should remove it entirely to emulate the Myoungshin Fanta.
Well, the spring helps with the tension stiffnes, so it really depends on your preference.
Coincidentally, I think the crown 309 is fully rubber grommet, and they have a sanwa mount version that doesn't require drilling out your case. It's like a shorter collar version that will just sit just under your case. I haven't tested it out yet since I'm satisfied with the Myoungshin and Taeyoung.
Can I just use a dremel, to open up the current hole on my Hori RAP 4 kai to 35mm, to fit the Myoungshin Fanta? Or do I need something else?
You will need a step drill bit up to 30mm in size. You can probably do it with a dremel... But I think the step drill bit is more the right tool for the job.
Thank you, my friend, much appreciated, however I heard you say the hole is 35mm's in the video.
How did you fit the Taeyoung Fanta lever into the Razer Panthera?
Hi Ashenn, you have to drill out the hole and buy a couple of converters. I made a series of detailed tutorials: ruclips.net/p/PLnivzxftldZWFEih2FWau8Ak4Zd9yvZmU
I used a Hori RAP4 for the tutorials, but I basically did the same steps for the Razer Panthera.
Joseph Do I used your videos for my rap 4. It turned out awesome. Thank you so much!!!
Did you drill the Razer Panthera before installing the Taeyoung Fanta? Hope u can answer my question 😁
Yes, you have to drill the Panthera otherwise it won't fit. If you don't want to do this, I would suggest getting a Crown stick with a JLF mount.
Great video. Where did you buy the Taeyoung?
I ordered it from etokki.com, they carry Crown, Taeyoung, and Myoungshin sticks.
The crown 307fj feels too tight for me and I can't seem to hit the directions properly on it is it possible to fix this with a low tension grommet? I own the crown help me, it feels just right for me, if I can make the 307 feel like the help me that would be great.
I don't have any experience with that, but if you feel the tension is too tight, try a lower tension grommet. You can find a set of grommets with different tensions and try them out, and use the one that feels the best. I've seen a set of grommets somewhere before, but I don't remember exactly which site.
I have a crown 307fj and qanba drone, how did you manage to fit it in? It seems too big when I lay it on top to mount it.
It's a tight fit and you might have to bend some of the pins, but it will fit. The Drone is a pain to mod though because the stick part is mounted to the bottom, not the top like most other good fightsticks.
imgur.com/ViEkAZ6
Joseph Do how did you manage to get the clip back on the bottom since the stick is mounted on the bottom? And then how do you get the bat top through the top plate of the drone when the bat doesnt come off? Did you put it through after the top was on and somehow get the clip on in that little hole on the bottom?
I got the clip on through the hole in the bottom. Basically i just carefully place the clip in the right spot, and used a needle nose plier to click it lock. Sorry for the late response as I've been busy as of late.
deathfist does not need neutral positioning. That's only for EWGF. But on topic. I ordered me the Crown CWL-309ML today. I wonder how that one compared to the fanta sticks and the 307. In a week or so I'll be smarter.
Taeyoung -> 태영 -> "Teh Yung"
I don't have a Qanba Drone, but I do have a Qanba Carbon and I'm hoping to put in a Myoungshin Fanta. Does anyone know if it would fit?
Mr do I found a Video with a koreanische some Mod the Drone with crown 309 MJ its a half collar korean Stick try this korean Stick If you had issues with the space in the Case.
I use at the Moment the half collar korean Stick from crown. Crown MJ 309 and the SDL 301 DX WHO is in Partnerchip with Infiltration.
I want to Transition to full collar korean Sticks like the Fanta or taeyoung or costume Sticks like the fujin lever. I want to know What is good after Using sanwa mounted korean Sticks?
If you are looking for a full collar korean stick, I recommend the Myoungshin fanta.
Thanks Mr do
Did you remove the plexi cover of razer panthera before drilling it?
I didn't, but if you were planning to replace the art, then maybe drill the hole as well when you have the plexi cover off.
@@jacsmi I see, good thing is the glass didn't break while drilling it. I'm just thinking if did you open the cover first and drilled it on the back? (to avoid breaking the plexi)
Is easyer hit diagonals with korean stick?
I think harder than sanwa style sticks.
What kind if switches do you recommend for the 307FJ ? I noticed that I can't hit diagonals with it, I was told to get omron switches since the panasonic switches in it are not wide enough for it.
Bro your voice is proper soothing no homo!
Why are you doing a half circle for deathfist?
Because I'm a scrub. lol
@@jacsmi hahaha
@@jacsmi didn't expect this reply!!! Thought there was some hidden trick behind it that I was missing!
Do you think that taeyoung would fit on rap hayabusa
Sorry for the late reply, I've been super busy as of late. The Taeyoung and Myoungshin are pretty much the same size. I have the Myoungshin in my Hori RAP4, but if you have another version of the RAP, it might not fit since some versions have a little indentation on the bottom in the middle. I would recommend you look at the measurements of the Taeyoung online and open your stick up to measure and see if it will fit in theory.
Joseph Do ahhh I see.... btw if let's say I'm using a collared crown lever like the Crown 309helpme... Do i need to do any mod on my arcade stick
Lol just a fiy, your backdash needs work, you don't input down in a backdash cancel. That's why you're keep getting sway, if done properly, you should only be seeing back, db, back, n back,db, back and so in in your command history.
Just for sway characters this applies. You can definitely do qcb,n~b to bdc with none swayers although if you can execute d/b,n~b (KBD) you will lessen the window you are exposed to long reaching mids like Kaz f+3.
yea i know, the reverse wavedash method is also known as the bootleg method, but like you said, doing the conventional way is the best method, i highly recommend that method to anyone trying to learn backdash cancel
can i have a myoungshin fanta :D i want to try it XD
Hah! If I had an extra one, I will do a sub giveaway.
All Korean joysticks work for all fighting games, not just Tekken. And by the way, a crown Korean joystick is superior because it does not rely on a spring in order to spring back into neutral. It relies on a rubber grommet/rubber silicone in order to spring back into neutral in a split second. And speaking of springs, springs suck because they break easily.
Yes, I used Tekken as my example, but it works for other fighting games and non fighting games too, like classic beat them ups, or arcade games on mame. Also, some Crown Korean sticks do use a spring and rubber grommet combination - depends on the model, like the one I have. But the Taeyoung and Myoungshin sticks are purely rubber.
Joseph Do So, the Crown 307FJ only relies on spring?
Crown 307FJ relies on BOTH a spring and a rubber grommet, the Myoungshin and Taeyoung only relies on the rubber grommet. You can see a teardown of Crown and Myoungshin here, the Taeyoung is pretty much almost the same as the Myoungshin internally. There may be other models of Crown that relies on only the rubber grommet, but I don't have those. About 2:50 minute mark on the video you can see the teardown: ruclips.net/video/FvGQH7zQYRc/видео.html
i have the old taeyoung from like 17-18 years ago , those have a hella stiff rubber but return to neutral super quick and are excellent for wavedashing and a taller shaft then the current taeyoung out now , the old taeyoung shaft also fits inside a myoungshin fanta , also i have the very first crown303 model from 14 years ago before the . ( new crown 303's 307 309 collar and Jpn version ) was even invented . the actuator on the first crown303 model is bigger then any of the current crowns , it only uses a rubber and its very very fast and it doesnt have that glass over the shaft . i think the older versions of these sticks are much better then their current new versions . i have the past and current versions of these sticks . This was back in the times when korean sticks were not on any websites to buy , the only way of getting them back then was if u knew some1 in korea
"And by the way, a crown Korean joystick is superior because it does not rely on a spring in order to spring back into neutral" - ok, so how do you know myoungshin is not using a rubber grommet too?