Bro I ain’t gone lie love da passion u have for mustangs an how u love what u do if I had time and money I would take my 2013 simple bolts on a let u tune it. Being married an a father of 3 it’s difficult… but I always look at your channel and like all vids all the way from Shreveport Louisiana
Very good. It can hold its own on a stock motor pump gas setup all day long. North of 20 psi on e85 the 3 liter may have a little advantage but either can make tons of power the gen3r is usually more torque heavy.
Where are you in Florida ? Glad to see a heavy “ terminator “. Content ! What about doing a video on checking the compression and stuff ? How do I really know if mine is heathy or not ? Thanks buddy
I wonder what would you use as higher octane fuel,if e85 Is not relatively available in my area? Could more power can be gained from some cylinder heads work over?
How much clutch engagement does an mt82 have? I feel like there should be more. Is it usually at the end of the pedal and very short, almost on and off.
Need information on the VMP Gen 3R would a water method help with octane since there is no E85 around here in Washington and running boost pumps.. Thanks
Use boostane full 16 Oz can of premium per tank turns 93 into 100 octane and it also acts as a fuel stabilizer and has something in it that keeps it suspended. Boostane ftw for anyone that don't have regular access to e85
That’s one problem I have with my 03 is it wants to stall out when clutching in and slowing down to a stop. Whipple 2.9 crusher with stock cams and pcm. I’ve had 2 different tuners and still haven’t gotten the damn thing to stop stalling out lol
@@MustangLifestyleTVan ECU upgrade is definitely in my plans just not there financially yet. Just got done rebuilding my rear after blowing it up at modnats lol. I may hit you up if I go that route though I’m in Georgia.
The only ford that don't chop is coyote based engines that still use their vct. If you lock out vct on coyote based engines they'll chop even with stock cams and every other Ford engine including all the mod motors pre coyote all chop with cams just like any other engine does. So people that say "fords don't chop" have no idea what they're talking about and what they mean to say is "coyote based engines that still utilize vct don't chop" lol. Literally everything else does with cams. All the mod motors 4.6 and 5.4/5.8 4v as well as 4.6 and 5.4 2v and 3v all them chop with cams.
Looking at the graph, it looks like the power didn't drop as it went higher in rpms. Would the MS3 allow you to let the car rev out to the low 7k range with out any issues?
@@JDaniels281 Good to know, but now I am wondering why he stopped the pull around 6700ish rpm then.... If it was making the power as the rpms were increasing, why stop?
@@Jordancraigmiller That's still pretty crazy. I guess the efficiency of the Gen 5 3.0 is just that nuts. I'm currently building my Cobra. Going Gen 3 2.3 Whipple 22PSI on E85 and 20⁰+ timing and I'm only expecting to make 700WHP maybe a little more. That extra 150WHP on a setup/tune not nearly as hot is wild. If the 2.3 ends up not being enough I'm going 3.0 for sure.
@@JordanSVT I have Stage 3 Comp cams, same exhaust set up as him. 2.3 Whipple first gen on 21 pounds 93 octane making 630WHP so you should be right around 700!
@@Jordancraigmiller I know about your build, one of my favorites out there. I've been watching you for years. You probably don't recognize my username or profile pic now (previously 2004 Terminator Cobra) but I always watched your stuff, even back when I was in high school and didn't even have my own Cobra. I'm working with Kevin Dunn to get mine tuned and he says I should be hitting my goal on that setup so I'm super excited for it. I haven't seen anything from you in a while, hope you're doing well bro.
The 3.0 Whipple is a game changer on these cars. This car is insanely clean in person and sounds amazing. And Steven can drive. We are planning to run once my set up is finalized but I dont think it’s going to go well for me lol I went from a 2.3 to a 3.0 whipple and my car is Dunn tuned. The difference is insane. The 2.3 hits harder down low but mid rpm and up the 3.0 is insane.
What kind of gearing is in this car? Plan on going the same setup with my 03 cobra and would even like to maybe talk to you about tuning it. Gearing looks longer or maybe it’s just hard to see the cluster through my phone screen lol. Maybe 3.27 gears?
@@2valve4six73 is this your car? Genuinely asking to know for sure. Terminators come stock with 3.55’s ofc but look at his rpm’s and certain speeds. Seems like 2nd reving out close to 100mph. Looks like he put longer gearing in it and it’s working great
@@patr803.55 will get close to 100 if you're revving it close to 7000 especially w a 28 inch tall tire not sure what size he's running. 3.55 is long gearing with a t56 or tr6060.
@@sategllib2191 absolutely. reminded me of my Whipple Gen 3 2.9 crusher DSG cobra. Had a 8.5:1 MMR 4.75 with ported DC casting heads and Ford GT cams. 705whp on 20lbs revving to 65-6600 rpm I can only imagine what it could have been like with MS3 instead of stock computer and more compression and more cam. I would definitely buy another if prices weren't so crazy that it only makes sense to get a GT500 or gen 2/gen 3 coyote instead
Man she looks like she drives amazing, the tuning with those cams make it a daily driver, a little loud for me but she sounds very nasty.A very awesome job tuning, very nasty and bad@ss Terminator Cobra.
It's probably hard for you to call a car quick or rowdy after driving a 1300 RWHP GT500 .......... Don't get me wrong , I got an 04 Terminator I'm building at the moment and can't wait to finish , tune it and get it on the road and I'm sure that Terminators fast , powerful , rowdy and fun as f*ck to drive , just say'n , after driving a 1300 hp car , 860 probably seems slow which is "F'n" crazy when you think about it
Just because you have driven something faster doesn't mean something with less power is going to feel "slow" that's a stupid way to look at things. Also it isn't just about power level and hard numbers 60-130 and quarter mile et. These cars are older and more raw so it won't take as much power for it to feel "rowdy" or "quick." I have a 750 rwhp 07 gt500 with 410s and fat drag radials it's a beast. It's fast but i can still appreciate cars with less power that aren't as fast and even call them quick. It isn't always about hard numbers and times. A 600 rwhp fox with the right setup and a fat power curve and traction is gonna feel pretty damn rowdy lol. Prob more rowdy than a 900 rwhp newer car for sure. Just because he has owned something faster doesn't mean he's gonna think an 860 rwhp terminator is "slow" or "not rowdy" lol.
@@2valve4six73the weight difference isn't that much you're talking like 150-200 lbs max. There are so many other factors like the fact that a terminator is older smaller and more raw that's gonna make it feel more rowdy vs a newer more refined car. Just because someone has experienced something more powerful or fast don't mean anything less powerful or fast is automatically going to feel "slow"
Those cobras are something special that's for sure! Plus they sound better than a coyote.
Ok let’s not get carried away 😅
Definitely sound better.
@@bernardsmith0they 1 hundred present sound better than coyotes
@@bernardsmith0there is no comparison. Coyotes don't sound anywhere near as good. Plus, the terminator absolutely destroys coyote mustangs
@@billymadison8036 noooooo they don’t 😅😅😅dope car tho 🔥
Bro I ain’t gone lie love da passion u have for mustangs an how u love what u do if I had time and money I would take my 2013 simple bolts on a let u tune it. Being married an a father of 3 it’s difficult… but I always look at your channel and like all vids all the way from Shreveport Louisiana
Gotta love the baby seat in the back.
That thing looks like it has amazing drivability!! Especially with cams wow. I need an MS3 for my 03 Cobra!!! 😮😊
Let me know I can get you setup
yea im getting one too . 😅
Can you spin the 4v to 8k with the MS3?
@@MrFitnesssouthyes the stock ecu limits you around 7200 as you know.
That is a nasty Cobra. Sounds incredible. Good job.
Awesome job on the tune! Bet he's happy to have full throttle pulls.
Love seeing new edge appreciation 🩵
How does the VMP 2.65 gen3R hold up against the whipple gen5
Very good. It can hold its own on a stock motor pump gas setup all day long. North of 20 psi on e85 the 3 liter may have a little advantage but either can make tons of power the gen3r is usually more torque heavy.
🔥the sound of the 4.6 is something special
Buddy you need a mic for a car like that lol! Much respect! I’ve been watching since 2016 … just sayin. Ok since the black 5.0 n red Cobra 🐍 😊
Where are you in Florida ?
Glad to see a heavy “ terminator “. Content !
What about doing a video on checking the compression and stuff ?
How do I really know if mine is heathy or not ?
Thanks buddy
Perfect set up for the street. Sinple, reliable, fast
I wonder what would you use as higher octane fuel,if e85 Is not relatively available in my area? Could more power can be gained from some cylinder heads work over?
I think Andrew is gonna become the wizard of tuning 03/04 cobras 🐍 drew FTW 🙌
How much clutch engagement does an mt82 have? I feel like there should be more. Is it usually at the end of the pedal and very short, almost on and off.
You know the wheel dimensions? They fit quite nice.
CCW usually runs a 18x9.5 front and 18x11 rear buddy . With maybe a 275/35 front and 315/30 or 335/30 rear tire. Maybe
@@bernardmurphy1900 thanks. I have a newedge and those widths too, well, 315 and 265 but on 16" and it always looks odd. 18" is maybe the trick
@@umakemerandy3669 ya man 18” is the perfect size IMO for a new edge or sn95
Is there a cobra specific part number for MS3?
God that car is perfect. Everything i want some day.
Awesome numbers and car!
Drew whats his suspension setup my guy??
That’s gotta B one of the best sounding Mustangs I’ve EVER heard…, EVER and I’ve owned more than 25 of them 😮🤣🤣🤣🤣😆
Nice terminator and hp what size and brand of tire is that, the owner seem happy.😊
Need information on the VMP Gen 3R would a water method help with octane since there is no E85 around here in Washington and running boost pumps.. Thanks
Use boostane full 16 Oz can of premium per tank turns 93 into 100 octane and it also acts as a fuel stabilizer and has something in it that keeps it suspended. Boostane ftw for anyone that don't have regular access to e85
That’s one problem I have with my 03 is it wants to stall out when clutching in and slowing down to a stop. Whipple 2.9 crusher with stock cams and pcm. I’ve had 2 different tuners and still haven’t gotten the damn thing to stop stalling out lol
Send it over here for ms3 install and retune. I’m not saying it’s impossible to get right on stock ecu but ms3 is worlds better all around
@@MustangLifestyleTVan ECU upgrade is definitely in my plans just not there financially yet. Just got done rebuilding my rear after blowing it up at modnats lol. I may hit you up if I go that route though I’m in Georgia.
@@svtpower03If you were close to Nevada then I’d be willing to street tune it for you. But sounds as if you just need to find a good tuner honestly.
Bruh that cobra sound real good
That thing rips!
Can you get an ms3 for my built 2010 gt500?
are those cosmis or ccw wheels?
Ccw
They say fords can’t chop. Beauty of a cobra big fan of those CCWs.
The only ford that don't chop is coyote based engines that still use their vct. If you lock out vct on coyote based engines they'll chop even with stock cams and every other Ford engine including all the mod motors pre coyote all chop with cams just like any other engine does. So people that say "fords don't chop" have no idea what they're talking about and what they mean to say is "coyote based engines that still utilize vct don't chop" lol. Literally everything else does with cams. All the mod motors 4.6 and 5.4/5.8 4v as well as 4.6 and 5.4 2v and 3v all them chop with cams.
Looking at the graph, it looks like the power didn't drop as it went higher in rpms. Would the MS3 allow you to let the car rev out to the low 7k range with out any issues?
That's the whole purpose of the MS3 since the stock ecu starts to act crazy at around 7k.
@@JDaniels281 Good to know, but now I am wondering why he stopped the pull around 6700ish rpm then.... If it was making the power as the rpms were increasing, why stop?
It’s amazing how the stock terminator motor can make so much power. I was told the rods is the weak link in the 2011 gt500
03/04 cobra the motor is bulletproof owned one from 2003 sold it in 2012 and I really regret selling it
Until the newest gen gt500 they all had powdered rods, idk what ford was thinking with that
@@sategllib2191they can still hold 800+ to the tire all day with a blower setup. Not exactly weak ecsp for something from 07-14.
I Always Wondered what 3.0l supercharger would Do
That's a lot of power for just 21PSI and conservative timing. Is it the cams making the difference? Higher compression?
It's pretty much the E85 + the 3.0 Whipple. Cams help a little bit but not a ton.
@@Jordancraigmiller That's still pretty crazy. I guess the efficiency of the Gen 5 3.0 is just that nuts. I'm currently building my Cobra. Going Gen 3 2.3 Whipple 22PSI on E85 and 20⁰+ timing and I'm only expecting to make 700WHP maybe a little more. That extra 150WHP on a setup/tune not nearly as hot is wild. If the 2.3 ends up not being enough I'm going 3.0 for sure.
@@JordanSVT I have Stage 3 Comp cams, same exhaust set up as him. 2.3 Whipple first gen on 21 pounds 93 octane making 630WHP so you should be right around 700!
@@Jordancraigmiller I know about your build, one of my favorites out there. I've been watching you for years. You probably don't recognize my username or profile pic now (previously 2004 Terminator Cobra) but I always watched your stuff, even back when I was in high school and didn't even have my own Cobra. I'm working with Kevin Dunn to get mine tuned and he says I should be hitting my goal on that setup so I'm super excited for it. I haven't seen anything from you in a while, hope you're doing well bro.
The 3.0 Whipple is a game changer on these cars. This car is insanely clean in person and sounds amazing. And Steven can drive.
We are planning to run once my set up is finalized but I dont think it’s going to go well for me lol
I went from a 2.3 to a 3.0 whipple and my car is Dunn tuned. The difference is insane. The 2.3 hits harder down low but mid rpm and up the 3.0 is insane.
What kind of gearing is in this car? Plan on going the same setup with my 03 cobra and would even like to maybe talk to you about tuning it. Gearing looks longer or maybe it’s just hard to see the cluster through my phone screen lol. Maybe 3.27 gears?
Nope. 3.55s
@@2valve4six73 is this your car? Genuinely asking to know for sure. Terminators come stock with 3.55’s ofc but look at his rpm’s and certain speeds. Seems like 2nd reving out close to 100mph. Looks like he put longer gearing in it and it’s working great
@@patr80 he's a good friend of mine. We have a new edge group here in tampa
@@patr803.55 will get close to 100 if you're revving it close to 7000 especially w a 28 inch tall tire not sure what size he's running. 3.55 is long gearing with a t56 or tr6060.
I’m a mopar guy and watching this makes me want a ford 😂
Do it you won't regret it!!
I would love for you to tune my turbo 03 cobra
Let me know
Exhaust set up? Thing is nasty ❤
Boy the entire time you was in the Cobra I couldn't hear shit you said. 😂😂😂
😂 he said,”don’t Kill us”
Awesome car!!
Blower cars sound so fuckin mean🔥
damn thats nuts
Wheels ? What make?
CCW
Is there a car seat in the back 😂
crazy for lazy 8.5:1 compression and stock head castings.
CNC head and 9.5:1 compression this would easily be 900-910whp no change in boost.
Still nasty. Probably was already at his power goals or budget limit
@@sategllib2191 absolutely. reminded me of my Whipple Gen 3 2.9 crusher DSG cobra. Had a 8.5:1 MMR 4.75 with ported DC casting heads and Ford GT cams. 705whp on 20lbs revving to 65-6600 rpm
I can only imagine what it could have been like with MS3 instead of stock computer and more compression and more cam. I would definitely buy another if prices weren't so crazy that it only makes sense to get a GT500 or gen 2/gen 3 coyote instead
Monster
🔥💯🤙🏼 I want one so baddd! Thats a bad betch right there
That car must be insane to drive lol
It’s definitely a party
Man she looks like she drives amazing, the tuning with those cams make it a daily driver, a little loud
for me but she sounds very nasty.A very awesome job tuning, very nasty and bad@ss Terminator Cobra.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Str8 up meatsickles out back
I hate myself for not buying one 13 yrs ago for 20K
🤣 its funny how new edge mustangs still look better and sound better than any mustang 15+
It's probably hard for you to call a car quick or rowdy after driving a 1300 RWHP GT500 .......... Don't get me wrong , I got an 04 Terminator I'm building at the moment and can't wait to finish , tune it and get it on the road and I'm sure that Terminators fast , powerful , rowdy and fun as f*ck to drive , just say'n , after driving a 1300 hp car , 860 probably seems slow which is "F'n" crazy when you think about it
Guess you didn't factor in the weight difference.
Just because you have driven something faster doesn't mean something with less power is going to feel "slow" that's a stupid way to look at things. Also it isn't just about power level and hard numbers 60-130 and quarter mile et. These cars are older and more raw so it won't take as much power for it to feel "rowdy" or "quick." I have a 750 rwhp 07 gt500 with 410s and fat drag radials it's a beast. It's fast but i can still appreciate cars with less power that aren't as fast and even call them quick. It isn't always about hard numbers and times. A 600 rwhp fox with the right setup and a fat power curve and traction is gonna feel pretty damn rowdy lol. Prob more rowdy than a 900 rwhp newer car for sure. Just because he has owned something faster doesn't mean he's gonna think an 860 rwhp terminator is "slow" or "not rowdy" lol.
@@2valve4six73the weight difference isn't that much you're talking like 150-200 lbs max. There are so many other factors like the fact that a terminator is older smaller and more raw that's gonna make it feel more rowdy vs a newer more refined car. Just because someone has experienced something more powerful or fast don't mean anything less powerful or fast is automatically going to feel "slow"