I was a kid, and as we where sledging on the local golf course, I noticed the dark snow clouds coming in from the opposite direction from the norm. They were coming over from the North Sea. This was something that got me interested in the weather, and something I always remember
Remember this well, i was fourteen and never done so much sledding in my life. Great winters in our lifetime, and made me a fan that i am now. A coldie at heart and still watching the great GWV.
well in Greece that March 1987 we had snow all over Greece up to Monemvasia east of Laconia - Sparta (60cm) and Rhodes island to Crete and Pyrgos to Corfu up to Evros and was a dream out there for 10 straight days ... In athens it was a dream come true for a week uncluding 35 - 40 - 50 cm for 5 straight days in the north suburbs of Athens...was a kid and that historical snow was made a myth ...lived that as it was packing and packing with no stop but for the economy, supplies ,traffic, and livestock it was a hell out there. In central north Greece in Karditsa it was 1,5 to 2 metres in the center and in mountanous areas it was almost 3 to 4 metres. In Lamia and Larissa it was 2 metres deep and evrything was halted for 25 days. In Florina allover Macedonia and Thrace an in Thesaloniki it was 70 - to 1,5m to 2 m in the cities and 3 + metres all over all mountanous aeras. All ski resorts were closed packing more than 5 to 8 meters. Temperature was in the minus everywhere with frost up to a meter -25 to -8 to the north, -15 to 0 in central Greece, - 8 to 2 in South Greece and -1 to 4 in the in the Aegean up to Rhodes with 0 to 5 degrees and -2 to 3 in Crete. At the 850 HPA should be around -- 20 to -15 in the north to -12 to -7 in the south and -8 to -5 in the aegean. It snowed everywhere including Patras, agrinio, Zakyntnos,. IIthaka, Kefalonia, Kalamata and Pyrgos where its is very rare up To Gavdos in the outer aeagen from Crete sea facing Libyan sea. The snow conditions move to the south in Cyprus high ground east up to Israel - Libonon - to Syria and in Turkey it was total chaos for at least a month.
I remember it well with 15” of lying snow in Norwich, which then blew into massive drifts when the cold easterly wind started! One day we had a max of -8C with a low of -15C, which when coupled with the strong easterly wind lead to a wind chill of -34C!
@@stephensnell5707. The figure of -34C wind chill came from the UK Met Office and it did feel really cold, but your assertion that it would create instant (which I interpret as within a few seconds) frostbite is not valid. Reliable sources state that unless you dress appropriately (you appear to assume that I didn’t?) exposed skin can be seriously affected by frostbite within minutes, which is not instant. By the way my wife has relatives who live in Winnipeg, which is Canada’s coldest large *city) where winter temps regularly reach as low as -35C and lower and that’s without any wind chill. So we are well aware of what precautions you have to take in severe cold weather. *Any conurbation with more than 15,000 inhabitants is classed as a city.
I drove a gritter in east sussex that period...salt was completely ineffective....heavy prolonged snow showers sun through to early Wednesday before snow precipitation migrated to ne england.. what followed was a stengthening wind reblocked the roads......not seen snow like that since although 91 was good too....a snap like this is long overdue again for this country.......
The Central England maximum temperature for 12 January 1987 was -5.7˚C, which is by 1.2˚C the coldest since 1878 (the next-coldest being 6 February 1895 and 26 January 1945 with -4.5˚C). The daily CET series goes back to 1772, and Januaries 1795, 1820, 1823, 1838, 1841 and 1867 all had colder daily CET values that the post-1878 record low, as did February 1816 and December 1796. January 1881’s 20-day spell from the 8th to the 27th is almost certainly the coldest such spell since 1740, especially if one considers the UK as a whole, with a CET of -4.57˚C! The third week of January 1881 had an average CET of -6.5˚C, which would probably correspond to below -7˚C over the UK as a whole
This bloke here from another website who worked near Purfleet confirms this "Dave Cornwell, a retired scientist, from Laindon, Essex, said: “I was working as an operational scientist at a sewage treatment plant in Rainham , Essex. (London Borough of Havering, (just east of London). I remember it well because for the first time anyone could remember the sewage was freezing on entering the works through the screening bars, bearing in mind that sewage is flowing underground and starting off quite warm, usually in winter arriving at about 10-12C."
I was 11 and remember this winter well. I recklessly walked across a frozen lake in this month with school friends and it held our weight - thankfully as it was 25 feet deep! I've only just told my parents (now I'm in my 40s!) 😂
I just saw a similar video with same map about 5 hours or more ago narrated by a guy called Scott Richards it was only one coming up in my search instead of one you was narrating gav, then in my RUclips suggestions just afew minutes ago it popped up! 😁 anyway January 2017 looks abit similar to this one, but as with others so far this winter might not plan out the same.
Here's a question you blokes might know the answer to. Did the Thames freeze up anywhere west of Teddington Lock, I know the East coast and South coast had ice flows and ice bergs and the sea was frozen in excess of a 1/2 mile out to sea around Hastings and along the Kent coast. So surely the Thames must have frozen in Places - Canvey Island and Leigh-on-sea had ice bergs and that's salt water! They're making such a big deal about a bit of ice near Teddington which is barely big enough to support a couple seagulls siitting on it! while I'm here, I was 27 when this happened and I lived in Tilbury Essex. I used to take my girfriend home to Purfleet most nights at about 11pm or a bit later and back then at Lakeside, West Thurrock there was big digital clock tower that used tto display the temperature and I seem to recall that it was -11 and possibly colder some nights during those two weeks. Yeah it was bloody cold. Can't imagine how bad it must have been in 62 and 47 when resources and life were very different to how they are now? Can you imagine how much chaos if 62 was repeated now, doesn't bare thinking about!
In NL where I live it was -11 C as daytime max. But January was not very cold. -2,7 C as an average temp. Comapre to -7 C on average in 1823 and february 1956 -6,7 C in NL. In dec 1788 there were several days with daytime maxima of -15 to -18 C.
@@antejl7925 We are talking 1987. 1986 had -3,6 C on average. Very cold, but not when we consider that there have been quite a few months that went below -5 C and even -6 C.
@@antejl7925 Jah well. I didn't like it a lot. Because it was bonedry. We had 1 mm precipitation so no snow. Absolute highest temperature over the month was +4 C. We had 20-25 days Tx < 0 C. COld, but in 1947 we had in some places in NL not a single day above zero. So that is 28 consecutive days with only below zero temperatures. Also: good winters tend to extend well into march. 1986 was not cold in march. At the 4th we had 7-10 cm of snow and after that the winter just Vanished. All in -3,6 is cold, but with a Tn of -21 C and many days between 0 and -3 and many nights between -6 and -10 it was never extreme. Not at all When w go one year further back in time we had 1-20 th January 1985 with an average of -7,5 C. Now that is more like it! Also with loads of snow, blizzards and extreme lows of -27,4 C (calibrated temp in a hut but not KNMI).
I think this was the year we're it snowed on and off for at least 6 weeks, caused absolute carnage police were out on horses, cars couldn't move, pavements rock hard ice and they think its cold these days lol.
I clearly (no pun intended) recall the snow of January 1987. The initial falls were on the evening of Friday 9th January, then we had about an inch on later Sunday afternoon where it started settling before it cleared up as the night time was beginning, and we had another fall on Monday 12th January similar to that of the previous day.The next morning, I remember my sister coming into my room excitedly (bless, she would have been 13 back then and I had turned 9 the month before)marching me to the window to look out of it! the ground was absolutely covered and the snow was falling quite thickly! It last the entire day and by Wednesday 14th January, we had about 12 inches in the West Midlands. I think that spell stands out in my mind as the deepest snowfall - though February 1996 had a big thick Russian wave also! I think that one only extended at 8-9inches however.I can't recall the temperatures quite as much looking back but I remember having a few days off school as a result. I used to love the snow as a child but I hate the stuff now! looks wondrous but the problems it causes and working outdoors in it and having to drive places just renders it as a no-no for me these days. It's ok if you are just looking at it and don't have to rely on transport systems/survival and so forth but the realities for me outweigh the lusting visual appeal by far.
I never realised just how cold it actually was and looking at this is reminding me of what we had to endure back in that harsh winter. Strange how winters turned much milder on average that following winter. 1988 - remember the infamous date where the weather men were given a telling off for not predicting the snowfall to hit much of the country on Friday 22nd January????? I never forget it and I remember being angry because it started raining on Saturday afternoon - melting the last snowfall that we had for almost 3 years!!!!Haha! such crazy memories.... ;)
@14:00 awful summary, it was - 5, some places even - 6, even colder places - 7, some places - 8, even - 9 was there and in special places - 10 🤪🤪🤪 i was already wondering how the hell you could talk so long about this, now I understand.
I was a kid, and as we where sledging on the local golf course, I noticed the dark snow clouds coming in from the opposite direction from the norm. They were coming over from the North Sea. This was something that got me interested in the weather, and something I always remember
Remember this well, i was fourteen and never done so much sledding in my life. Great winters in our lifetime, and made me a fan that i am now. A coldie at heart and still watching the great GWV.
Ditto! I was also 14, and while sledding I noticed that the snow clouds were coming in from over the North Sea. Got me interested in our weather.
Fascinating video!
Thanks so much.
well in Greece that March 1987 we had snow all over Greece up to Monemvasia east of Laconia - Sparta (60cm) and Rhodes island to Crete and Pyrgos to Corfu up to Evros and was a dream out there for 10 straight days ... In athens it was a dream come true for a week uncluding 35 - 40 - 50 cm for 5 straight days in the north suburbs of Athens...was a kid and that historical snow was made a myth ...lived that as it was packing and packing with no stop but for the economy, supplies ,traffic, and livestock it was a hell out there. In central north Greece in Karditsa it was 1,5 to 2 metres in the center and in mountanous areas it was almost 3 to 4 metres. In Lamia and Larissa it was 2 metres deep and evrything was halted for 25 days. In Florina allover Macedonia and Thrace an in Thesaloniki it was 70 - to 1,5m to 2 m in the cities and 3 + metres all over all mountanous aeras. All ski resorts were closed packing more than 5 to 8 meters. Temperature was in the minus everywhere with frost up to a meter -25 to -8 to the north, -15 to 0 in central Greece, - 8 to 2 in South Greece and -1 to 4 in the in the Aegean up to Rhodes with 0 to 5 degrees and -2 to 3 in Crete. At the 850 HPA should be around -- 20 to -15 in the north to -12 to -7 in the south and -8 to -5 in the aegean. It snowed everywhere including Patras, agrinio, Zakyntnos,. IIthaka, Kefalonia, Kalamata and Pyrgos where its is very rare up To Gavdos in the outer aeagen from Crete sea facing Libyan sea. The snow conditions move to the south in Cyprus high ground east up to Israel - Libonon - to Syria and in Turkey it was total chaos for at least a month.
I remember it well with 15” of lying snow in Norwich, which then blew into massive drifts when the cold easterly wind started! One day we had a max of -8C with a low of -15C, which when coupled with the strong easterly wind lead to a wind chill of -34C!
A -34 Celsius Wind Chill is icy cold and would lead to instant and quite nasty Frostbite very quickly⚠️
@@stephensnell5707. The figure of -34C wind chill came from the UK Met Office and it did feel really cold, but your assertion that it would create instant (which I interpret as within a few seconds) frostbite is not valid. Reliable sources state that unless you dress appropriately (you appear to assume that I didn’t?) exposed skin can be seriously affected by frostbite within minutes, which is not instant. By the way my wife has relatives who live in Winnipeg, which is Canada’s coldest large *city) where winter temps regularly reach as low as -35C and lower and that’s without any wind chill. So we are well aware of what precautions you have to take in severe cold weather.
*Any conurbation with more than 15,000 inhabitants is classed as a city.
I drove a gritter in east sussex that period...salt was completely ineffective....heavy prolonged snow showers sun through to early Wednesday before snow precipitation migrated to ne england.. what followed was a stengthening wind reblocked the roads......not seen snow like that since although 91 was good too....a snap like this is long overdue again for this country.......
Had to put petrol in the diesel to prevent fuel freezing too....
The Central England maximum temperature for 12 January 1987 was -5.7˚C, which is by 1.2˚C the coldest since 1878 (the next-coldest being 6 February 1895 and 26 January 1945 with -4.5˚C).
The daily CET series goes back to 1772, and Januaries 1795, 1820, 1823, 1838, 1841 and 1867 all had colder daily CET values that the post-1878 record low, as did February 1816 and December 1796. January 1881’s 20-day spell from the 8th to the 27th is almost certainly the coldest such spell since 1740, especially if one considers the UK as a whole, with a CET of -4.57˚C! The third week of January 1881 had an average CET of -6.5˚C, which would probably correspond to below -7˚C over the UK as a whole
This bloke here from another website who worked near Purfleet confirms this "Dave Cornwell, a retired scientist, from Laindon, Essex, said: “I was working as an operational scientist at a sewage treatment plant in Rainham , Essex. (London Borough of Havering, (just east of London). I remember it well because for the first time anyone could remember the sewage was freezing on entering the works through the screening bars, bearing in mind that sewage is flowing underground and starting off quite warm, usually in winter arriving at about 10-12C."
I recall it like yesterday I was 25 yrs old recently started a new job I was out and about a lot interesting time
I was 11 and remember this winter well. I recklessly walked across a frozen lake in this month with school friends and it held our weight - thankfully as it was 25 feet deep! I've only just told my parents (now I'm in my 40s!) 😂
2019 anyone
I remember this one Gavin here in ireland we had over a foot in snow here in the east one I will always remember.
love the videos , lots of really interesting videos and good work
I was 21 remember snow on the ground in kent for two weeks and foot long icecycles hanging of the drain gutters
I was born during this storm haha... Apparantly the ambulance had trouble getting to the hospital and my dad was trying to keep up in the car.
I just saw a similar video with same map about 5 hours or more ago narrated by a guy called Scott Richards it was only one coming up in my search instead of one you was narrating gav, then in my RUclips suggestions just afew minutes ago it popped up! 😁 anyway January 2017 looks abit similar to this one, but as with others so far this winter might not plan out the same.
Here's a question you blokes might know the answer to. Did the Thames freeze up anywhere west of Teddington Lock, I know the East coast and South coast had ice flows and ice bergs and the sea was frozen in excess of a 1/2 mile out to sea around Hastings and along the Kent coast. So surely the Thames must have frozen in Places - Canvey Island and Leigh-on-sea had ice bergs and that's salt water! They're making such a big deal about a bit of ice near Teddington which is barely big enough to support a couple seagulls siitting on it! while I'm here, I was 27 when this happened and I lived in Tilbury Essex. I used to take my girfriend home to Purfleet most nights at about 11pm or a bit later and back then at Lakeside, West Thurrock there was big digital clock tower that used tto display the temperature and I seem to recall that it was -11 and possibly colder some nights during those two weeks. Yeah it was bloody cold. Can't imagine how bad it must have been in 62 and 47 when resources and life were very different to how they are now? Can you imagine how much chaos if 62 was repeated now, doesn't bare thinking about!
In NL where I live it was -11 C as daytime max. But January was not very cold. -2,7 C as an average temp. Comapre to -7 C on average in 1823 and february 1956 -6,7 C in NL. In dec 1788 there were several days with daytime maxima of -15 to -18 C.
@@antejl7925 We are talking 1987. 1986 had -3,6 C on average. Very cold, but not when we consider that there have been quite a few months that went below -5 C and even -6 C.
@@antejl7925 Jah well. I didn't like it a lot. Because it was bonedry. We had 1 mm precipitation so no snow. Absolute highest temperature over the month was +4 C. We had 20-25 days Tx < 0 C. COld, but in 1947 we had in some places in NL not a single day above zero. So that is 28 consecutive days with only below zero temperatures. Also: good winters tend to extend well into march. 1986 was not cold in march. At the 4th we had 7-10 cm of snow and after that the winter just Vanished. All in -3,6 is cold, but with a Tn of -21 C and many days between 0 and -3 and many nights between -6 and -10 it was never extreme. Not at all When w go one year further back in time we had 1-20 th January 1985 with an average of -7,5 C. Now that is more like it! Also with loads of snow, blizzards and extreme lows of -27,4 C (calibrated temp in a hut but not KNMI).
Can you do historic video of jan 1881 a bitterly cold month with a severe blizzard in south
That's definitely on my "to do" list. :D
I think this was the year we're it snowed on and off for at least 6 weeks, caused absolute carnage police were out on horses, cars couldn't move, pavements rock hard ice and they think its cold these days lol.
The modern days still get very cold Winter weather so it is still bad enough
No matter how cold it is it is still dangerous to humans⚠️
I clearly (no pun intended) recall the snow of January 1987. The initial falls were on the evening of Friday 9th January, then we had about an inch on later Sunday afternoon where it started settling before it cleared up as the night time was beginning, and we had another fall on Monday 12th January similar to that of the previous day.The next morning, I remember my sister coming into my room excitedly (bless, she would have been 13 back then and I had turned 9 the month before)marching me to the window to look out of it! the ground was absolutely covered and the snow was falling quite thickly! It last the entire day and by Wednesday 14th January, we had about 12 inches in the West Midlands. I think that spell stands out in my mind as the deepest snowfall - though February 1996 had a big thick Russian wave also! I think that one only extended at 8-9inches however.I can't recall the temperatures quite as much looking back but I remember having a few days off school as a result. I used to love the snow as a child but I hate the stuff now! looks wondrous but the problems it causes and working outdoors in it and having to drive places just renders it as a no-no for me these days. It's ok if you are just looking at it and don't have to rely on transport systems/survival and so forth but the realities for me outweigh the lusting visual appeal by far.
I never realised just how cold it actually was and looking at this is reminding me of what we had to endure back in that harsh winter. Strange how winters turned much milder on average that following winter. 1988 - remember the infamous date where the weather men were given a telling off for not predicting the snowfall to hit much of the country on Friday 22nd January????? I never forget it and I remember being angry because it started raining on Saturday afternoon - melting the last snowfall that we had for almost 3 years!!!!Haha! such crazy memories.... ;)
@14:00 awful summary, it was - 5, some places even - 6, even colder places - 7, some places - 8, even - 9 was there and in special places - 10 🤪🤪🤪 i was already wondering how the hell you could talk so long about this, now I understand.