You're the man. So humanising to see how you've overcome your insecurity. Didn't expect to see that in this sort of video, but it feels good to see it. Your channel is awesome
I haven’t considered a Panasonic TV for gaming for years and have always gone with LG and Samsung. It’s good to see Panasonic making their TV’s so gamer friendly now.
@Mat Sci Not enough market, and premium price tag made them not so appealing anymore. Also Samsung and other TV-s have much more apepaling factory picture quality settings that are not color accurate but people like more. They are better at this game than Panasonic.
That guy seems moronic to me, I enjoy the knowledge that hddtv provides as an expert, even though I may not find the accurate picture settings as enjoyable sometimes. Everyone should just enjoy their TV with whatever settings they enjoy the most.
I always use warm2 for all content. Every other colour temperature looks too blue to me. Once you get used to it, everything else looks wrong and too blue. It's great to see another video from you about gaming
I have a Sony x90j and a s95b. Sony come with a very accurate dolby vision and the only thing that makes my s95b look as good (color accuracy wise) is warm 2 on film maker mode.
Colour accuracy matters a lot. In lockdown i played Uncharted 4 on a flagship Samsung Q90R QLED. It was good. But then i replayed the game on a flagship Panasonic DX902 which has calibrated picture modes and is accurate, and the difference was night and day. Playing it on the Panasonic just blew me away. Even the HDR was far better even though the Panasonic is only 1200 Nits and the Samsung is supposed to be 2000 Nits. And the Panasonic was 4yrs older.
@@ThePipojp No. Vincent even says the Q90R can't be fully calibrated. You can get some of the way there but I'd you want accuracy you want Panasonic, LG and Sony.
@@rijjhb9467 They make a wide range for all price points. Basically flood the market so there is something for everyone. And when it comes to high end many gamers don't want to risk burn in. Samsung flagship have been poor for the last 3 or 4yrs but this year's are well done. I've got the QN90B NEO QLED here and it's pretty good.
This felt more like a ad for the Panasonic tv. Regardless setting your tv up to meet D65 is so important. If your color temp setting is in cool or normal/neutral. Your doing yourself a hug disservice. Warm is what your supposed to be set to. Some sets have multiple warm settings so check rtings for your tv best warm setting. On Sony tvs it’s usually Warm2
Rtings are very sloppy these days. They give wrong information, don't test certain things etc. I've seen them correct themselves after being called out by the public.
I wish Panasonic was still in the US market. I have one of their CRTs that my dad bought in the 90s and it still works. Very reliable TV brand from my experience
There is a Panasonic CRT TV in my family too. Has been going strong for 20+ years of DAILY, HOURS LONG use. I mean, this TV has been there since I remember myself, and I am 27 :) Well, it shows some signs of wear (screen borders seem to be a bit off, such stuff...), but other than that - a good TV.
Funny. European here. Wanted to buy Samsung's 32inch 4k TV. Turns out it's a USA exclusive. :P In fact, there are no 32inch 4k TVs in Europe. Just monitors. TVs only have 720p and 1080p @32 inches. And there are still more 720p 32 inchers.
Admittedly, I don't game on tvs these days, but it was always strange to me, to see people not realize how important color accuracy is to the (functionality/playability-wise, far more important than color accuracy itself) contrast of a game's visuals. I spent an hour or so 'by sight' calibrating a large HDTV for a relative (FTR, I used an old reference sheet designed for LCD monitors as a baseline for getting reasonable color and brightness balances. I wasn't aiming for perfect, I was aiming for 'significantly better than stock 3rd-tier manufacturer preset gaming mode'), and had them call me two days later calling me a wizard, because they decided to play shooters again, and were shocked at how much better they were doing, claiming the silhouettes 'popped' now and were far more visible.
I'm just an 18 year old tech interested person and I don't always understand everything that's mentioned and I also don't have the budget to achieve the "greatest/most accurate" results but I really enjoy watching Vincent's videos and learning more about tech than just hardware and it's nice to see someone so calm and humane on RUclips combined with great humour.. and also Vincent plays or at least mentions the horizon series so that's always a +
I never used any sort of warm color temp until I started watching this channel, now I'd never go back. Like others have said once you get used to warmer colors the cool setting just looks too blue and harsh.
Claiming you need to have it is subjective. Plenty of people play on crappy TV's from the early 2010's and are just happy they can play games on a screen.
Since I purchased my first Oled screen (Lg c9) and paired it with my PS5 your videos have been perfect when it comes to the BEST settings to use in order to have the best experience. Games have never looked better and I'm constantly amazed every time I boot up the console of how jaw dropping everything looks. You the man Vincent! Keep it up
Wait a minute... I was waiting for some real advantage based reasons why color accuracy is important in games, but instead its just an ad for Panasonics low latency mode. Nice one.
I don’t like the way my tv looks with all of your recommended settings but I usually use your recommendations as a base and then adjust until Im happy. No reason to tell you that you’re wrong. Ultimately I can enjoy the TV how I want, idk why people can’t just do the same lmao
I had my oled calibrated. Never again. So called experts (cult leaders) and their standards do not really align with gaming art or escapism.. These are not people who play games. They’re stuck with one scenario - you either have to live in a pitch black mancave and isolate yourself from the rest of people you’re living with or you end up with a dim, boring piss filter. I don’t want a gaming filmmaker. It’s not a movie. Try playing competitive with this HGIG bullshit during the day in a normal room. This purism is just ridiculous and these so called professionals are not working to please the customer, but for their obsessives dogmas and feeding their elitist ego.
This channel is criminally underrated. I found you when searching for OLED gaming monitors, I'll be looking forward to a review of the LG 27GR95QE-B that you recently presented. The pixel density offered by the smaller form factor is very appealing. I had an idea to try some of the cheaper sub 17" displays offered on Amazon and rigging up a solution to get them very close to my face to bring them near the 'retina' standard but I suspect the input lag may not be optimal, do you have any thoughts on that?
You were so right Vincent. I'm now on warm 50 in game settings on my C2. All my favorite games now look much more natural and better. Thanks very much!
Couldn’t agree more with @vincent. I’ve tried many tv’s but nothing comes close to Panasonic in game mode. Especially the colours, you can use different picture modes because of how they implemented game mode. Especially the picture quality👍🏻.
I totally agree with Vincent. Accuracy is one of the most important things in gaming. Reminds me of comedian Ken Suzuki, lol. Making it hard for me to justify getting a 42-in Sony A90K. These Panasonics look amazing.
Which is why I only play certain games on my LG C1. Doesn't give the game proper justice. For casual e-sport games, I don't care about the color as much although my VA display is calibrated.
Sony and Panasonic make the best tvs for accuracy and Picture quality period in the world. Either tv you buy will be amazing especially a master series tv from Sony. The two brands always go head to head at any shoot out and it’s literally down to the wire by so little points difference for final scores. This year the A95k won best tv which is a master series as well, even in Vincent’s test the A95k was the best tv. So I think both brands are amazing and you can’t go wrong with best from either of those brands. No regrets needed at all
@@lvproductionsinc9748 Nah, especially a flagship TV from Panasonic. Sony is not as accurate as Panasonic. Doesn't mean it was the most accurate. lmao. See the logic. They include many more things other than accuracy and Panasonic LZ2000 is the most accurate TV on the planet.
Don't have any plans to replace my CX yet, but I hope Panasonic keeps up the good work because I'm leaning more and more towards them for next display.
@@volchonokilliR From what I've seen, it seems like Panasonic does great work in getting the best possible picture quality out of these panels. I'd probably go for either them or Sony if I had any budget and was looking for a new display right now. Especially now that gaming features like 4k120 hdmi 2.1 and vrr support aren't lagging behind as much.
Color is essential in gaming, especially when playing 3A titles, creators spend a long to create realistic open words, and others create cinematic-like experiences. While we target Real-time Ray Tracing and other graphics performance but in reality, the display performance has a much more significant impact than most gamers think.
yeah, a good display can be a much greater visual upgrade than a new gpu to crank settings to max. but that's not really tightly tied to color accuracy. it's more general display performance. contrast, brightness, that stuff. as long as you're not crushing and oversaturating everything to hell, there's quite a bit of a leeway in color temperature for a good experience.
It's so good and if you get a resolution upgrade too then games will look as if they're modded. Even GTA V looked pretty close to reality for a 2013 game when I switched to a good IPS panel from a TN one that had the color vibrance setting maxed out since the default was really awful.
@@Azraenore After buying a MacBook, I can't stand my old PC monitor. I can literally see the individual pixels on every image, and colours looks incredibly washed out. I can't believe I've been missing out this whole time...
If you get used to a calibrated picture it is hard t go back. All look like it should. If you have no idea, an easy and good way (without colorimeter) to come closer to a neutral picture is to copy SDR 1.Filmmaker (or 2. Movie / Night if there is no Filmmaker) Values into SDR Game Mode (u notice it with Gamma at 2.2 or BT1886 / 2.4) & HDR Filmmaker Values into Game HDR (u notice it with ST.2084 or if gamma is greyed out). But reset Filmmaker / Movie Night before, if you are not sure, u have changed them before. And maybe highering the Backlight / OLED Light a bit for SDR game mode, but i would not go too bright, if it is not needed. Only HDR needs the full Backlight / OLED Light, because it is absolute and the Creator desice, how bright or dim a scene is. I measured my Nintendo Switch (LED) V2 and it is calibrated to D65 very accurate in terms of colors and color tones. EOTF is not perfect but avg of 2.22. But i think some of the V1 Switchs are D75 and also the Switch Lite is D75~ i think. Maybe for outdoor usage. Can´t speak for the OLED because never saw them in person. But i´m happy that my Switch is accurate to have an identic look to my calibrated TV.
Even game developers develop on a calibrated monitor. Calibration IS a standard. There’s also nothing wrong with over-saturating things to taste. That’s the beauty of having choices in TV settings IMO
People's taste can be shit. Having taste for something doesn't automatically mean it's a good thing. If you oversaturate your colors and see Morgan Freeman's skin looking like neon Red, you've royally fucked up. 😂😂😂👎👎👎
He's right. A properly calibrated image can change the whole atmosphere of a game. I've recently gone from playing the PS5 on a Samsung NEO QLED to a Panasonic OLED and there is a big difference. Playing the same games looks and feels totally different on both TVs. Once you get everything looking as intended the games really shine.
@@ThePipojp No their not. Watch Vincent's videos on them. The fact that on Samsungs dynamic tone mapping can't be turned off means you won't get a fully accurate image. And the menus on Samsungs are very bare bones for calibration. Panasonic menus are very very in depth, an AV geeks wet dream. You can tinker with everything on a Panasonic. There is a reason why Samsung TVs never win calibrators TV shootouts each year.
@@Matty_UK The S95B came second in the last shootout though, didn't It? I know It's QD OLED, but It also had poor calibration and Samsung fixed It after backlash. Besides, rtings tests them for accuracy, and they are close enough so that the average consumer can't tell the difference. Granted, this doesn't go for all of their TVs, but the QN90B and the S95B both are quite accurate. Panasonic does offer more options in terms of accuracy than either Samsung or LG, but to say that It makes that huge of a difference when we are talking about a difference that comes down to quite low Delta E is misleading. Unless you have a reference monitor side by side you won't be able to tell that a Panasonic is more accurate than a properly calibrated flagship Samsung or LG.
Once you see pure white & pure color on Warm 50…you don’t want to go back. I used to hate it just a week ago, because of how yellow & pissy it looked. But, now that my eyes have adjusted, I can’t stand anything close to “neutral” or cold.
Sorry, but this is just a 8min long ad for Panasonic. There is no answer to the question of why you would need a colour accurate TV for gaming. Not that I don't value accuracy, but "need" indicates you have certain advantage over an inaccurate picture. Like if your TV is too dark, you might not see enemies. So, if someone like to play smurf of war, because he/she is a sucker for the color blue, there is really no need for colour accuracy.
Fully on board with the message... a standard for white point is crucial. Am curious though, how do you white balance the camera that films the displays? 6500k? What about green/magenta axis? A further question, if you do in fact rate the camera at 6500k (and assuming green/mag is set correctly), does your camera’s recording of the display’s D65 white point reproduce true white ie. equal RGB pixel values? Or would this depend on a display’s emissive characteristics?
If you shoot in RAW you can calibrate the white point after you shoot the video by first shooting a reference white board and then grade that board to a correct white point. In other cameras you can simply select reference white.
That’s both funny and wholesome that you used to airbrush your face 😂 Very relatable! I think your sense of humour and passion for what you do far outweigh any advantage in the looks department. I think being ultra-good-looking is like being a billionaire, you never know if your friends just like you for your looks/money. Not that I would know 😂
Because of you, I actually set my 85 inch TV to the correct "warm" color setting, disabled all enhanced picture settings and removed sharpening for all my inputs and channels to get an accurate picture 😂
As a hobby photographer and love gaming! Yes it is very important to calibrate your monitor! For gaming, yes you have to unfortunately by your self a expensive monitor! But it makes a huge difference, and you are gaining FPS.
I mostly play games on CRTs, where you often cannot achieve perfect calibration. My CRT friends and I had a saying, "Disregard calibration, acquire nice". I do try to achieve proper calibration on my LCD TV still though.
I think use HGiG and get as accurate brighness tracking as possible, then if you want some extra pop, just increase the saturation/color setting slightly.
I applaud you for this video. Like I applaud you for all your content, and amazing advice. This is something that I’ve been trying to explain for a long time, to so many people, who are ignorant. I just can’t afford the gear needed to prove my point. It not worth it anyways. I made a LG CX settings video for gaming awhile back. I got the same type of comments, and personal attacks for recommending a D65 white point, and targeting the industry standard. It’s just crazy to me that so many people are so twisted on this subject. I mean, I get everyone has different vision, and color blind issues (cough, cough QTV). But it’s not piss warm white lmfao. D65 is aiming to replicate natural light. If a creator/colorist wants a cooler look for the movie, or scene, they’ll make that happen in the content, while at a D65 white point. If they want something to look warm, it’ll look warm. It why the grade content lol. This argument just makes my mind spin. Anyways, after that..I honestly gave up on recommending settings. I want to do a C2 settings video, just for the fun of it, and to help others; but I just don’t feel like explaining the importance of standards and why they’re important, as well as calibrating to the standards, to all the people who are going to ignorantly disagree. I’m not saying you have to abide by the standards to a absolute T, but getting as close as possible, using the correct color space, color temp, etc, is really important. It’s truly the only way you’re going to feel true realism and immersion. Luminance can always be adjusted to taste, and ambient lighting conditions..there’s dark and bright room modes for a reason, though content is always best enjoyed in the dark, imho. And don’t even get me started on HDR, and all the “nit wits” out there, who don’t understand a damn thing about it, and like to claim SDR is superior, and HDR is a scam lol. I can’t tell you how many people I’ve argued with about HGiG, or tracking PQ EOTF. I feel like 95% of people I talk to, don’t understand it. I get liking a brighter picture, but it always comes at a cost. There is always give and take, when deviating. You give up depth, for “pop”. You’ll lost detail as well, and also possibly exaggerate detail, that shouldn’t be seen. For instance, making film grain more obvious. Lifting shadows, and washing them out, etc. HDR is supposed to be dark. It’s hit lower luminance levels, as well as higher. Dynamic range…but they always whine about HDR being dim..most likely not understanding HDR is for dark environments. Like theaters. And if there’s some ambient light, us things like DTM, and DoVI IQ/Precision, etc. But again, that comes at a cost, and often looks worse, due to clipping of highlight, and constant luminance changes, depending on how you set it up. Last, I just wanna say that I used to be a vivid mode fool. That was when I was a literally a kid tho, and knew nothing about display tech, colors, etc. If YT and this channel was around back then, I probably would of been in the comments arguing haha. My whole world changed when I learned what a calibrated display looks like. I mean, I wonder how many iPhone users are watching this, and saying they don’t want piss yellow whites, while typing/watching it on a D65 display (if TruTone is off). I truly wonder…I also wonder how many of these commenters, actually let their eyes adjust to D65…granted their display was even close to D65 at warm2. I know I can say for a fact that my CX and C2 were both too cool at warm2/w50. The CX more so. The C2 was actually pretty damn good OOTB. I doubt I would of never noticed, if I didn’t come from a calibrated display 😉 Anyways…I’m finished writing my book. I just truly wanna say thank you, for everything you have taught me, the amazing content, and for always being honest.
Hi Vincent, what do you recommend for color settings when gaming on LG TVs? I select HDR game mode to have the lowest input lag, but colors seem too cold.
As a seasoned user of Reshade for PC gaming 8 can confirm that having color accurate monitors is a must. I'm genuinely tired of the way most new games look, still being held back by compatibility with old tvs and having terrible flat color and dynamic range. Everything looks so washed out.
Once I set my LG G1 to game mode, I knew something was wrong right out of the box. Everything definitely looked too blue. I tried to set the color gamut to "natural", but again, something was off. Mario's hat was way too red, and the colors in my NES did not look like how I remembered. I tried looking through the Expert Bright" picture setting, and found what was different. That damn white balance! I slammed that thing down to warm 50, and couldn't be happier with the result. But its nice to know that there are tvs out there that are accurate right out of the box. Mine just wasn't one of them.
Hello Vincent, I was wondering if you could answer a question that has been on my mind for a while now. When you use Calman software for calibrating your TV in limited RGB range, playing in Full RGB messes up the calibration too much or not at all?
Your TV should go into full video mode, when changing the TV to game mode (or PC mode). Besides low latency mode, that's kind of the idea with these modes.
Being on full rgb mode, the TV es pretty inaccurate. I dont know what the TV does internally but the colors look a lot more over the place. In limited, they look a lot more correct. Also, ALLM sacrifices accuracy/quality for speed.
@@KirsGM "video" only oytputs colors from RGB 16-235. Full RGB outputs colors from 0-255. That should be the only difference. However both devices needs to be put in either mode, so if you're using a console or DVD/Blu-ray player and set them to full RGB, you have to do the same for the TV, if the option is there. Or use "PC" or "Game' input and it should happen automatically.
@@akyhne It should be the only difference, but it's not. TVs are not PC monitors. They are 'limited' displays in nature, and more so when AutoCal can only calibrate for limited rgb, and with only 8-bit color patches for sdr content. I dont know anything about the inner workings of the TV, but after hours and hours of "testing", im sure that when you calibrate for 8-bit limited, thats the only accurate setting. Full rgb, 10 bit color, or ALLM will kinda throw the calibration away.
Hi, I have the Alienware QDOled, I was wondering if anyone knows if keeping on Windows HDR 24/7 will hurt the display overtime. Or should turn it off unless I’m gaming for web/desktop browsing?
Yup, it’s very important. I don’t buy any gaming monitor unless it’s at least somewhat close to accurate out of the box. I recommend anyone interested in accurate colours checkout Rtings for monitor reviews. Most monitors with the fastest response times have poor colours. Most monitors with accurate colours are not suited for competitive gaming in terms of response time/input delay. However, there’s a small amount of gaming monitors that exist in both realms - having both accurate colours and fast response time/high refresh rate. Well worth the money to buy a gaming monitor that does it all with little compromise.
Do you have a video for sony x85k picture settings and gaming settings please you seem to be the artist person I have came across with this kind of knowledge
To all the people that keep doubting industry standards, even in the video game industry, you are all ignorant. Stop doubting the science behind it and start listening to Vincent; he is one of the most credible experts on RUclips, when comes to displays, and he knows his stuff.
@@henrywinters9496 I play mostly with HDR activated, it's bright enough for me, for SDR you shouldn't have any problem, as it is less demanding than HDR. as for movies i would recommend a Nvidia shield TV pro or Apple TV 4K gen 3 2022 or if you have lower budget the fire tv 4K max. the panasonic os is just crap
@@ellypsis603 What is so bad about Panaosnic OS? And it''s just that I was worried SDR would look too dim because there is apparently no peak brightness setting
Thank you - finally! All the gaming features in the world don't mean much when the colors suck in game mode and there's barely a way to correct them. I hope you will lean strongly into this in future reviews when evaluating the gaming chops of a TV. (And also that a 5-way HDMI 2.1 splitter will finally be available until your next best-of-year blind test shoot-out :) )
panasonic is very nice and I hope they will release a QD Oled next year with the latest mediatek chipset. That being said. LG dan also be set very easily to a accurate picture mode while gaming. Just relabel the HDMI port to "PC" and switch to "Expert dark" for SDR and "Cinema" for HDR. Done. if you use the streaming apps on your tv instead of your console or PC (which you always should) you don't have to switch back.
The problem with built-in streaming apps is that they don't get long-term priority updates vs dedicated devices like Roku, Fire Stick, Apple TV, game consoles, etc.
Is the quality better or more accurate image on built in app vs Xbox app. I just don’t want to slow down my tv by having all these programs running all the time.
Hey Vincent. Are you ever going to do a full review of the Philips OLED807? You did a preview stating full review soon, but still nothing. Really interested in the tv but not keen on buying without a review from yourself first.
Isn't God of War a very bad example because Kratos has almost white/pale skin and it's just a little more "natural" in this scene because he's sitting in front of a bonfire?
LG C1 or C2 are still the only great choice for budget-conscious and hardcore gamers. 4 HDMI 2.1 ports so you can have E-ARC and multiple 2.1 devices, GSync\VRR and ALLM. Color accuracy is phenomenal after calibration as well (yes having it out of the box is better)
Another great video and really was amazing to hear your journey in overcoming your insecurities - I hope you can be proud of yourself for being so open about it now . I do wonder where Sony’s game mode falls on that skin tone colour line - just started horizon forbidden on west on my X95J and I was more blown away than I expected to be at the skin tones
I don't understand all of the technical color stuff, but I love your videos. Now I automatically mess with settings with new TV's even when they aren't mine. My next step is probably getting some equipment 😂. I've learned to look at movies differently as well. Spotting things like cloth texture and skin pores that I didn't really pay much attention to before. But that hasn't carried over to RUclips as I have no idea what you would airbrush out. We all worry about stupid stuff nobody else notices.
Vincent. Is it common for Oled to produce slightly off yellow tones? I have a C1 and it’s great. But to my eyes the yellow tones seem to have a hint of a lime tint to them. Not sure if my settings have caused this 🤷🏼♂️
Hi If my Xbox gives the options for 10 bit and 12 bit but my monitor spec say 8 bit 6+ FRC. What happens if i choose the higher bit than what's on monitor specs?
It would be great if other manufacturers like LG, Samsung etc. wouldn't enable all kinds of filters like sharpening and cool colors in Game Mode. It's crazy that out of the box, only Panasonic has more or less okay defaults.
Hi Vincent which tv do you recommend lg c2 83 inch for 3 330 euros or lg c2 77 inch for 2 790 euro. I am just asking because I have read comments that c2 83 inch uses last year panel. I don't mind money or size but which one is better. ( will use for ps5, pc and movies in bright room) Thank you!
Of course it's using last year's panel only LG make Oled it's using Evo tech plus a upgraded chip, it's only 48inch and lower that does not use Evo but nope a Oled panel is what it says " a Oled panel " depending what specs and new tex have been implemented, and only for the C2 newer chip the C1 is still far more premium parts and still best gaming TV 2022, your better with the LG G2 with heatsink
the video is interesting, but it didn't explain why i "need" accurate colors. are the colors on my screen accurate? i have no idea, but i like the way it looks, so why exactly do i "need" it to be accurate?
The thing is, I found a deal for an LG 42 C2 for as low as 750€, while the 42 Panasonic costs 1499€. No one can tell me that it's actually double the TV that the C2 is.
Hey mate, this is off topic but I recently purchased an LG Nano 75 (43") and use my PS5 with it. What are the best settings to use on the Tv (on it's own for movies) and in conjunction with the PS5? @HDTV Test
Precise accuracy is not important. A blue tint is noticeable and should be eyeballed corrected. I personally leave my monitor slightly warm and I can see it on white background. Can't go wrong with warm and cozy.
So glad u got rid of your insecurities. At the end of the day that never mattered. Your are the go to channel to get my info on TV tech. You are mainly why I got my c1 at the time. Thanks for all the content!
So which is the best TV for gaming over all? Looking to buy a new TV in the Black Friday sales. Are LG still the best for gaming? or is it the new Samsung S95B? Priority is gaming then fast moving sports.
I'd go Panasonic personally, but Digital Trends just did a best gaming TV video and put the LG in the #1 spot and the Samsung at #2. Digital Trends doesn't have access to Panasonic though as they are in the states.
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This 👆🏻
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@Garrus Vakarian speak for yourself
Sublime?! Seems quite dry to me.
@Abigail Honestly I always say; if it's too dry, just spit on it.
You're the man. So humanising to see how you've overcome your insecurity. Didn't expect to see that in this sort of video, but it feels good to see it. Your channel is awesome
He's joking bruh😆
@@Sal3600 no I don't think so
Bruh , the problems we think we have in these days are no real problems compared to what truly humans made to be
I haven’t considered a Panasonic TV for gaming for years and have always gone with LG and Samsung. It’s good to see Panasonic making their TV’s so gamer friendly now.
Its great but aren't these TV"s still restricted to select countries, with the US still excluded?
@@albie21121 unfortunately
I miss Panasonic in the states! I remember Gears of War (2006) looked absolutely amazing on my grandma's plasma.
Why not available over there?
@Mat Sci Not enough market, and premium price tag made them not so appealing anymore. Also Samsung and other TV-s have much more apepaling factory picture quality settings that are not color accurate but people like more. They are better at this game than Panasonic.
Some people who think they know better are probably fans of Quantum TV
That guy is toxic
@@chrisgault87 Rather anty Sony guy 😅
That guy seems moronic to me, I enjoy the knowledge that hddtv provides as an expert, even though I may not find the accurate picture settings as enjoyable sometimes. Everyone should just enjoy their TV with whatever settings they enjoy the most.
try his settings he literally does everything Vince is talking about lol 😆 😂
@@missrachel2 Lie.
I always use warm2 for all content. Every other colour temperature looks too blue to me. Once you get used to it, everything else looks wrong and too blue. It's great to see another video from you about gaming
I agree
I found for Samsung TVs I have to use Warm. All other TVs don't have that over blue appearance.
I have a Sony x90j and a s95b. Sony come with a very accurate dolby vision and the only thing that makes my s95b look as good (color accuracy wise) is warm 2 on film maker mode.
Plus its better on the eyes
It's too yellow for me. Almost like a piss filter. I like warm 1 or neutral
Colour accuracy matters a lot. In lockdown i played Uncharted 4 on a flagship Samsung Q90R QLED. It was good. But then i replayed the game on a flagship Panasonic DX902 which has calibrated picture modes and is accurate, and the difference was night and day. Playing it on the Panasonic just blew me away. Even the HDR was far better even though the Panasonic is only 1200 Nits and the Samsung is supposed to be 2000 Nits. And the Panasonic was 4yrs older.
Isn't the Q90R capable of accurare colors once calibrated? Or is that only for the newer mini led models?
@@ThePipojp No. Vincent even says the Q90R can't be fully calibrated. You can get some of the way there but I'd you want accuracy you want Panasonic, LG and Sony.
How Samsung is a TV giant is beyond me. Their TVs are just awful.
@@rijjhb9467 They make a wide range for all price points. Basically flood the market so there is something for everyone. And when it comes to high end many gamers don't want to risk burn in. Samsung flagship have been poor for the last 3 or 4yrs but this year's are well done. I've got the QN90B NEO QLED here and it's pretty good.
On witch tv did you play during the night and witch during the day?
(Joking)..
This felt more like a ad for the Panasonic tv. Regardless setting your tv up to meet D65 is so important. If your color temp setting is in cool or normal/neutral. Your doing yourself a hug disservice. Warm is what your supposed to be set to. Some sets have multiple warm settings so check rtings for your tv best warm setting. On Sony tvs it’s usually Warm2
Rtings are very sloppy these days. They give wrong information, don't test certain things etc. I've seen them correct themselves after being called out by the public.
Definitely need a comparison to LG C2 after calibration.
I wish Panasonic was still in the US market. I have one of their CRTs that my dad bought in the 90s and it still works. Very reliable TV brand from my experience
There are people out there still rocking Panasonic plasma TV's from the 90's.
I wish Panasonic TV's was in the Australia market.
There is a Panasonic CRT TV in my family too. Has been going strong for 20+ years of DAILY, HOURS LONG use. I mean, this TV has been there since I remember myself, and I am 27 :)
Well, it shows some signs of wear (screen borders seem to be a bit off, such stuff...), but other than that - a good TV.
well, well, well.
Just to buy them now, and they'll bring their whole lineup over and hopefully stay.
I really wish Panasonic would sell their OLED's in the US.
Funny. European here. Wanted to buy Samsung's 32inch 4k TV. Turns out it's a USA exclusive. :P
In fact, there are no 32inch 4k TVs in Europe. Just monitors. TVs only have 720p and 1080p @32 inches. And there are still more 720p 32 inchers.
I'm from the uk and wish they sold them in the states. very little is known about them here with only 2 reviews
Admittedly, I don't game on tvs these days, but it was always strange to me, to see people not realize how important color accuracy is to the (functionality/playability-wise, far more important than color accuracy itself) contrast of a game's visuals. I spent an hour or so 'by sight' calibrating a large HDTV for a relative (FTR, I used an old reference sheet designed for LCD monitors as a baseline for getting reasonable color and brightness balances. I wasn't aiming for perfect, I was aiming for 'significantly better than stock 3rd-tier manufacturer preset gaming mode'), and had them call me two days later calling me a wizard, because they decided to play shooters again, and were shocked at how much better they were doing, claiming the silhouettes 'popped' now and were far more visible.
I'm just an 18 year old tech interested person and I don't always understand everything that's mentioned and I also don't have the budget to achieve the "greatest/most accurate" results but I really enjoy watching Vincent's videos and learning more about tech than just hardware and it's nice to see someone so calm and humane on RUclips combined with great humour.. and also Vincent plays or at least mentions the horizon series so that's always a +
It's almost like voice massage.
I'm 35 and I can afford this, I hope you can say the same to another boy when you turn my age 👍🏻
@@MrlspPrt thank you, I appreciate it :)
Let's hope so but even if not that's totally fine
This are wise words for an 18 years old yes you are right have fun in learning 😊. Thats the way to success.
why are you interested specifically in 18 year old tech tho?
“I cannot be as dashing as Henry Cavill”
This joke is super, man.. I can’t 💀💀💀😂😂
Joke? What joke?
- Vincent, 2022.
I never used any sort of warm color temp until I started watching this channel, now I'd never go back. Like others have said once you get used to warmer colors the cool setting just looks too blue and harsh.
Claiming you need to have it is subjective. Plenty of people play on crappy TV's from the early 2010's and are just happy they can play games on a screen.
Since I purchased my first Oled screen (Lg c9) and paired it with my PS5 your videos have been perfect when it comes to the BEST settings to use in order to have the best experience. Games have never looked better and I'm constantly amazed every time I boot up the console of how jaw dropping everything looks.
You the man Vincent! Keep it up
Same with my LG CX.
Hey, I plan to buy a Philips 48OLED807. Could you tell me which settings should I use?
Wait a minute... I was waiting for some real advantage based reasons why color accuracy is important in games, but instead its just an ad for Panasonics low latency mode. Nice one.
I don’t like the way my tv looks with all of your recommended settings but I usually use your recommendations as a base and then adjust until Im happy. No reason to tell you that you’re wrong. Ultimately I can enjoy the TV how I want, idk why people can’t just do the same lmao
Same. Warm 50 on LG was too much for me but Warm 20 was just right.
@@ThePreciseClimber I use like 40 I think.
He's not wrong. Color has standards. You don't like it, do you. But I bet if you got your TV/monitor calibrated, you'd never look back.
@@akyhne i didnt say he was wrong.
I had my oled calibrated. Never again. So called experts (cult leaders) and their standards do not really align with gaming art or escapism.. These are not people who play games. They’re stuck with one scenario - you either have to live in a pitch black mancave and isolate yourself from the rest of people you’re living with or you end up with a dim, boring piss filter. I don’t want a gaming filmmaker. It’s not a movie. Try playing competitive with this HGIG bullshit during the day in a normal room. This purism is just ridiculous and these so called professionals are not working to please the customer, but for their obsessives dogmas and feeding their elitist ego.
This channel is criminally underrated. I found you when searching for OLED gaming monitors, I'll be looking forward to a review of the LG 27GR95QE-B that you recently presented. The pixel density offered by the smaller form factor is very appealing.
I had an idea to try some of the cheaper sub 17" displays offered on Amazon and rigging up a solution to get them very close to my face to bring them near the 'retina' standard but I suspect the input lag may not be optimal, do you have any thoughts on that?
Vincent is well known in the community
Vincent is as famous as Henry Cavill.
I wonder if the higher pixel density in that monitor will downgrade HDR peak brightness. 🤔
Pixel density is not that important, there is no crystal effect on LG TVs.
Is Panasonic OLED better than LG C2 just for Gaming PC ?
You were so right Vincent. I'm now on warm 50 in game settings on my C2. All my favorite games now look much more natural and better. Thanks very much!
i think it is good warm 0...but why the cloud and eyes is yellow? i dont understand this.please help me
Couldn’t agree more with @vincent. I’ve tried many tv’s but nothing comes close to Panasonic in game mode. Especially the colours, you can use different picture modes because of how they implemented game mode. Especially the picture quality👍🏻.
I totally agree with Vincent. Accuracy is one of the most important things in gaming. Reminds me of comedian Ken Suzuki, lol. Making it hard for me to justify getting a 42-in Sony A90K. These Panasonics look amazing.
I always feel a sense of security playing games on accurate colors
Which is why I only play certain games on my LG C1. Doesn't give the game proper justice. For casual e-sport games, I don't care about the color as much although my VA display is calibrated.
Sony and Panasonic make the best tvs for accuracy and Picture quality period in the world. Either tv you buy will be amazing especially a master series tv from Sony. The two brands always go head to head at any shoot out and it’s literally down to the wire by so little points difference for final scores. This year the A95k won best tv which is a master series as well, even in Vincent’s test the A95k was the best tv. So I think both brands are amazing and you can’t go wrong with best from either of those brands. No regrets needed at all
No, it is not? lol. It never has been. Some games even let you change color saturation. lmao.
@@lvproductionsinc9748 Nah, especially a flagship TV from Panasonic. Sony is not as accurate as Panasonic. Doesn't mean it was the most accurate. lmao. See the logic. They include many more things other than accuracy and Panasonic LZ2000 is the most accurate TV on the planet.
Condensing years of experience in less than 10 minutes, pure gold. Thanks Vincent. 😊
I wouldn’t claim to know more than Vincent but personally I simply like colder colors. I have set everything to Standard on my LG CX.
Don't have any plans to replace my CX yet, but I hope Panasonic keeps up the good work because I'm leaning more and more towards them for next display.
what are other reasons that make you consider Panasonic over other brands?
@@volchonokilliR From what I've seen, it seems like Panasonic does great work in getting the best possible picture quality out of these panels. I'd probably go for either them or Sony if I had any budget and was looking for a new display right now. Especially now that gaming features like 4k120 hdmi 2.1 and vrr support aren't lagging behind as much.
I have the CX too. Best plan to replace it is LG C4 in 2024
Color is essential in gaming, especially when playing 3A titles, creators spend a long to create realistic open words, and others create cinematic-like experiences. While we target Real-time Ray Tracing and other graphics performance but in reality, the display performance has a much more significant impact than most gamers think.
yeah, a good display can be a much greater visual upgrade than a new gpu to crank settings to max.
but that's not really tightly tied to color accuracy. it's more general display performance. contrast, brightness, that stuff. as long as you're not crushing and oversaturating everything to hell, there's quite a bit of a leeway in color temperature for a good experience.
It's so good and if you get a resolution upgrade too then games will look as if they're modded. Even GTA V looked pretty close to reality for a 2013 game when I switched to a good IPS panel from a TN one that had the color vibrance setting maxed out since the default was really awful.
@@Azraenore After buying a MacBook, I can't stand my old PC monitor. I can literally see the individual pixels on every image, and colours looks incredibly washed out. I can't believe I've been missing out this whole time...
If you get used to a calibrated picture it is hard t go back. All look like it should. If you have no idea, an easy and good way (without colorimeter) to come closer to a neutral picture is to copy SDR 1.Filmmaker (or 2. Movie / Night if there is no Filmmaker) Values into SDR Game Mode (u notice it with Gamma at 2.2 or BT1886 / 2.4) & HDR Filmmaker Values into Game HDR (u notice it with ST.2084 or if gamma is greyed out). But reset Filmmaker / Movie Night before, if you are not sure, u have changed them before. And maybe highering the Backlight / OLED Light a bit for SDR game mode, but i would not go too bright, if it is not needed. Only HDR needs the full Backlight / OLED Light, because it is absolute and the Creator desice, how bright or dim a scene is.
I measured my Nintendo Switch (LED) V2 and it is calibrated to D65 very accurate in terms of colors and color tones. EOTF is not perfect but avg of 2.22.
But i think some of the V1 Switchs are D75 and also the Switch Lite is D75~ i think. Maybe for outdoor usage. Can´t speak for the OLED because never saw them in person. But i´m happy that my Switch is accurate to have an identic look to my calibrated TV.
What I like to do is go to Rtings, type up my model, and they give you recommended settings.
More content that covers HDR gaming please.
I’m happy with the more frequent uploads and it’s probably because there are less tvs to review which usually take a long time
Even game developers develop on a calibrated monitor.
Calibration IS a standard. There’s also nothing wrong with over-saturating things to taste. That’s the beauty of having choices in TV settings IMO
Because I have obssesive compulsive disorder, accuracy is a must for me.
People's taste can be shit. Having taste for something doesn't automatically mean it's a good thing.
If you oversaturate your colors and see Morgan Freeman's skin looking like neon Red, you've royally fucked up. 😂😂😂👎👎👎
He's right. A properly calibrated image can change the whole atmosphere of a game. I've recently gone from playing the PS5 on a Samsung NEO QLED to a Panasonic OLED and there is a big difference. Playing the same games looks and feels totally different on both TVs. Once you get everything looking as intended the games really shine.
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But the Samsung Neo Qleds are very accurate after calibrated though, at least the flagship models nowadays
@@ThePipojp No their not. Watch Vincent's videos on them. The fact that on Samsungs dynamic tone mapping can't be turned off means you won't get a fully accurate image. And the menus on Samsungs are very bare bones for calibration. Panasonic menus are very very in depth, an AV geeks wet dream. You can tinker with everything on a Panasonic. There is a reason why Samsung TVs never win calibrators TV shootouts each year.
@@Matty_UK The S95B came second in the last shootout though, didn't It? I know It's QD OLED, but It also had poor calibration and Samsung fixed It after backlash. Besides, rtings tests them for accuracy, and they are close enough so that the average consumer can't tell the difference. Granted, this doesn't go for all of their TVs, but the QN90B and the S95B both are quite accurate. Panasonic does offer more options in terms of accuracy than either Samsung or LG, but to say that It makes that huge of a difference when we are talking about a difference that comes down to quite low Delta E is misleading. Unless you have a reference monitor side by side you won't be able to tell that a Panasonic is more accurate than a properly calibrated flagship Samsung or LG.
I love the new delivery of your videos, very enjoyable to watch, keep it up.
Once you see pure white & pure color on Warm 50…you don’t want to go back. I used to hate it just a week ago, because of how yellow & pissy it looked. But, now that my eyes have adjusted, I can’t stand anything close to “neutral” or cold.
Sorry, but this is just a 8min long ad for Panasonic. There is no answer to the question of why you would need a colour accurate TV for gaming.
Not that I don't value accuracy, but "need" indicates you have certain advantage over an inaccurate picture. Like if your TV is too dark, you might not see enemies.
So, if someone like to play smurf of war, because he/she is a sucker for the color blue, there is really no need for colour accuracy.
That's why I chose a Panasonic oled for gaming, and I love it! :)
Fully on board with the message... a standard for white point is crucial. Am curious though, how do you white balance the camera that films the displays? 6500k? What about green/magenta axis? A further question, if you do in fact rate the camera at 6500k (and assuming green/mag is set correctly), does your camera’s recording of the display’s D65 white point reproduce true white ie. equal RGB pixel values? Or would this depend on a display’s emissive characteristics?
Yes
If you shoot in RAW you can calibrate the white point after you shoot the video by first shooting a reference white board and then grade that board to a correct white point. In other cameras you can simply select reference white.
That’s both funny and wholesome that you used to airbrush your face 😂 Very relatable! I think your sense of humour and passion for what you do far outweigh any advantage in the looks department. I think being ultra-good-looking is like being a billionaire, you never know if your friends just like you for your looks/money. Not that I would know 😂
came here for tech knowledge, also learned this is an advertisement for Panasonic tvs
Another reason why I stick with Panasonic TVs. Reassuring this thank you. Recently purchased Panasonic 65LZ1500
Because of you, I actually set my 85 inch TV to the correct "warm" color setting, disabled all enhanced picture settings and removed sharpening for all my inputs and channels to get an accurate picture 😂
i dont like warm temp. i like cool temp. its personal preference
I would love to see a review of the best budget tv's for movies and tv series.
As a hobby photographer and love gaming!
Yes it is very important to calibrate your monitor!
For gaming, yes you have to unfortunately by your self a expensive monitor!
But it makes a huge difference, and you are gaining FPS.
I mostly play games on CRTs, where you often cannot achieve perfect calibration. My CRT friends and I had a saying, "Disregard calibration, acquire nice". I do try to achieve proper calibration on my LCD TV still though.
I think use HGiG and get as accurate brighness tracking as possible, then if you want some extra pop, just increase the saturation/color setting slightly.
I applaud you for this video. Like I applaud you for all your content, and amazing advice. This is something that I’ve been trying to explain for a long time, to so many people, who are ignorant. I just can’t afford the gear needed to prove my point. It not worth it anyways.
I made a LG CX settings video for gaming awhile back. I got the same type of comments, and personal attacks for recommending a D65 white point, and targeting the industry standard. It’s just crazy to me that so many people are so twisted on this subject. I mean, I get everyone has different vision, and color blind issues (cough, cough QTV). But it’s not piss warm white lmfao. D65 is aiming to replicate natural light. If a creator/colorist wants a cooler look for the movie, or scene, they’ll make that happen in the content, while at a D65 white point. If they want something to look warm, it’ll look warm. It why the grade content lol. This argument just makes my mind spin.
Anyways, after that..I honestly gave up on recommending settings. I want to do a C2 settings video, just for the fun of it, and to help others; but I just don’t feel like explaining the importance of standards and why they’re important, as well as calibrating to the standards, to all the people who are going to ignorantly disagree. I’m not saying you have to abide by the standards to a absolute T, but getting as close as possible, using the correct color space, color temp, etc, is really important. It’s truly the only way you’re going to feel true realism and immersion. Luminance can always be adjusted to taste, and ambient lighting conditions..there’s dark and bright room modes for a reason, though content is always best enjoyed in the dark, imho.
And don’t even get me started on HDR, and all the “nit wits” out there, who don’t understand a damn thing about it, and like to claim SDR is superior, and HDR is a scam lol.
I can’t tell you how many people I’ve argued with about HGiG, or tracking PQ EOTF. I feel like 95% of people I talk to, don’t understand it. I get liking a brighter picture, but it always comes at a cost. There is always give and take, when deviating. You give up depth, for “pop”. You’ll lost detail as well, and also possibly exaggerate detail, that shouldn’t be seen. For instance, making film grain more obvious. Lifting shadows, and washing them out, etc. HDR is supposed to be dark. It’s hit lower luminance levels, as well as higher. Dynamic range…but they always whine about HDR being dim..most likely not understanding HDR is for dark environments. Like theaters. And if there’s some ambient light, us things like DTM, and DoVI IQ/Precision, etc. But again, that comes at a cost, and often looks worse, due to clipping of highlight, and constant luminance changes, depending on how you set it up.
Last, I just wanna say that I used to be a vivid mode fool. That was when I was a literally a kid tho, and knew nothing about display tech, colors, etc. If YT and this channel was around back then, I probably would of been in the comments arguing haha. My whole world changed when I learned what a calibrated display looks like. I mean, I wonder how many iPhone users are watching this, and saying they don’t want piss yellow whites, while typing/watching it on a D65 display (if TruTone is off). I truly wonder…I also wonder how many of these commenters, actually let their eyes adjust to D65…granted their display was even close to D65 at warm2. I know I can say for a fact that my CX and C2 were both too cool at warm2/w50. The CX more so. The C2 was actually pretty damn good OOTB. I doubt I would of never noticed, if I didn’t come from a calibrated display 😉
Anyways…I’m finished writing my book. I just truly wanna say thank you, for everything you have taught me, the amazing content, and for always being honest.
Guy is low key a comedy genius.
Hi Vincent, what do you recommend for color settings when gaming on LG TVs? I select HDR game mode to have the lowest input lag, but colors seem too cold.
Use HDR game mode but change the color temperature to Warm 50
I think it used to not matter with color accuracy. Because of cathode ray tube TVs and Monitors. But now it is completely different.
As a seasoned user of Reshade for PC gaming 8 can confirm that having color accurate monitors is a must.
I'm genuinely tired of the way most new games look, still being held back by compatibility with old tvs and having terrible flat color and dynamic range.
Everything looks so washed out.
If you get your hands on a a95k again can you do a gaming settings video on it
You should do an updated gaming settings video.
I legit used to play games up to the PS3 era on Vivid mode for the insane color pop. 😬
Once I set my LG G1 to game mode, I knew something was wrong right out of the box. Everything definitely looked too blue. I tried to set the color gamut to "natural", but again, something was off. Mario's hat was way too red, and the colors in my NES did not look like how I remembered. I tried looking through the Expert Bright" picture setting, and found what was different. That damn white balance! I slammed that thing down to warm 50, and couldn't be happier with the result. But its nice to know that there are tvs out there that are accurate right out of the box. Mine just wasn't one of them.
i really have to thank you for saving my eyeballs. oversaturated displays literally caused me eye strain alongside being inaccurate.
Video turns into Panasonic paid promotion at 2:46
No, it doesn't. It's just that Panasonic at that point were the only ones to get it right.
Hello Vincent, I was wondering if you could answer a question that has been on my mind for a while now. When you use Calman software for calibrating your TV in limited RGB range, playing in Full RGB messes up the calibration too much or not at all?
No it will not
Your TV should go into full video mode, when changing the TV to game mode (or PC mode). Besides low latency mode, that's kind of the idea with these modes.
Being on full rgb mode, the TV es pretty inaccurate. I dont know what the TV does internally but the colors look a lot more over the place. In limited, they look a lot more correct.
Also, ALLM sacrifices accuracy/quality for speed.
@@KirsGM "video" only oytputs colors from RGB 16-235. Full RGB outputs colors from 0-255.
That should be the only difference.
However both devices needs to be put in either mode, so if you're using a console or DVD/Blu-ray player and set them to full RGB, you have to do the same for the TV, if the option is there. Or use "PC" or "Game' input and it should happen automatically.
@@akyhne It should be the only difference, but it's not. TVs are not PC monitors. They are 'limited' displays in nature, and more so when AutoCal can only calibrate for limited rgb, and with only 8-bit color patches for sdr content.
I dont know anything about the inner workings of the TV, but after hours and hours of "testing", im sure that when you calibrate for 8-bit limited, thats the only accurate setting. Full rgb, 10 bit color, or ALLM will kinda throw the calibration away.
Hi, I have the Alienware QDOled, I was wondering if anyone knows if keeping on Windows HDR 24/7 will hurt the display overtime. Or should turn it off unless I’m gaming for web/desktop browsing?
Yup, it’s very important. I don’t buy any gaming monitor unless it’s at least somewhat close to accurate out of the box.
I recommend anyone interested in accurate colours checkout Rtings for monitor reviews.
Most monitors with the fastest response times have poor colours. Most monitors with accurate colours are not suited for competitive gaming in terms of response time/input delay. However, there’s a small amount of gaming monitors that exist in both realms - having both accurate colours and fast response time/high refresh rate. Well worth the money to buy a gaming monitor that does it all with little compromise.
Do you have a video for sony x85k picture settings and gaming settings please you seem to be the artist person I have came across with this kind of knowledge
To all the people that keep doubting industry standards, even in the video game industry, you are all ignorant. Stop doubting the science behind it and start listening to Vincent; he is one of the most credible experts on RUclips, when comes to displays, and he knows his stuff.
You are more dashing than a real life Space Marine 🥰 subbed
Just bought the 55LZ1000e, the picture is amazing and calibration out of the box is just perfect.
is SDR brightness in game mode good enough?
@@henrywinters9496 I play mostly with HDR activated, it's bright enough for me, for SDR you shouldn't have any problem, as it is less demanding than HDR.
as for movies i would recommend a Nvidia shield TV pro or Apple TV 4K gen 3 2022 or if you have lower budget the fire tv 4K max. the panasonic os is just crap
@@ellypsis603 What is so bad about Panaosnic OS? And it''s just that I was worried SDR would look too dim because there is apparently no peak brightness setting
Thank you - finally! All the gaming features in the world don't mean much when the colors suck in game mode and there's barely a way to correct them. I hope you will lean strongly into this in future reviews when evaluating the gaming chops of a TV. (And also that a 5-way HDMI 2.1 splitter will finally be available until your next best-of-year blind test shoot-out :) )
I rather have an 120hz gsync freesync monitor/TV than a colour accurate 60hz no vrr monitor/TV
I'm a bit lost, so Panasonic is the go to for gaming in 2022?
panasonic is very nice and I hope they will release a QD Oled next year with the latest mediatek chipset. That being said. LG dan also be set very easily to a accurate picture mode while gaming. Just relabel the HDMI port to "PC" and switch to "Expert dark" for SDR and "Cinema" for HDR. Done.
if you use the streaming apps on your tv instead of your console or PC (which you always should) you don't have to switch back.
The problem with built-in streaming apps is that they don't get long-term priority updates vs dedicated devices like Roku, Fire Stick, Apple TV, game consoles, etc.
Is the quality better or more accurate image on built in app vs Xbox app. I just don’t want to slow down my tv by having all these programs running all the time.
Hey Vincent. Are you ever going to do a full review of the Philips OLED807? You did a preview stating full review soon, but still nothing. Really interested in the tv but not keen on buying without a review from yourself first.
Isn't God of War a very bad example because Kratos has almost white/pale skin and it's just a little more "natural" in this scene because he's sitting in front of a bonfire?
LG C1 or C2 are still the only great choice for budget-conscious and hardcore gamers. 4 HDMI 2.1 ports so you can have E-ARC and multiple 2.1 devices, GSync\VRR and ALLM. Color accuracy is phenomenal after calibration as well (yes having it out of the box is better)
Could you do one picture settings for LG oled, one for Sony and Samsung QD Oled? Thanks?
What are recommended gaming settings for Sony A80K?
Another great video and really was amazing to hear your journey in overcoming your insecurities - I hope you can be proud of yourself for being so open about it now . I do wonder where Sony’s game mode falls on that skin tone colour line - just started horizon forbidden on west on my X95J and I was more blown away than I expected to be at the skin tones
Do you do gaming monitors or just tvs? I just got the samsung neo g 7 and would love a video of your tips on the best settings
I don't understand all of the technical color stuff, but I love your videos. Now I automatically mess with settings with new TV's even when they aren't mine. My next step is probably getting some equipment 😂.
I've learned to look at movies differently as well. Spotting things like cloth texture and skin pores that I didn't really pay much attention to before. But that hasn't carried over to RUclips as I have no idea what you would airbrush out. We all worry about stupid stuff nobody else notices.
I'm putting this in my ps5 category right now so when I finally have a pc monitor that I feel is right for me, I'll have this as a reminder.
Vincent. Is it common for Oled to produce slightly off yellow tones? I have a C1 and it’s great. But to my eyes the yellow tones seem to have a hint of a lime tint to them. Not sure if my settings have caused this 🤷🏼♂️
Hi If my Xbox gives the options for 10 bit and 12 bit but my monitor spec say 8 bit 6+ FRC. What happens if i choose the higher bit than what's on monitor specs?
Would you go with the S95B or G2 for gaming and movies as well as being future proof
It would be great if other manufacturers like LG, Samsung etc. wouldn't enable all kinds of filters like sharpening and cool colors in Game Mode. It's crazy that out of the box, only Panasonic has more or less okay defaults.
Hi Vincent which tv do you recommend lg c2 83 inch for 3 330 euros or lg c2 77 inch for 2 790 euro.
I am just asking because I have read comments that c2 83 inch uses last year panel. I don't mind money or size but which one is better. ( will use for ps5, pc and movies in bright room) Thank you!
Of course it's using last year's panel only LG make Oled it's using Evo tech plus a upgraded chip, it's only 48inch and lower that does not use Evo but nope a Oled panel is what it says " a Oled panel " depending what specs and new tex have been implemented, and only for the C2 newer chip the C1 is still far more premium parts and still best gaming TV 2022, your better with the LG G2 with heatsink
the video is interesting, but it didn't explain why i "need" accurate colors. are the colors on my screen accurate? i have no idea, but i like the way it looks, so why exactly do i "need" it to be accurate?
Even my samsung plasma television defaults to Warm 2 in Movie Mode 👍
i always put my smart Tv on Film Maker Mode with my tweaks. And its amazing.
Question: for playing CoD MW3 multiplayer, is Panasonic better than my 2020 LG C7? Black color, inputlag? Please let me know
Vincent what are the make/model of your glasses! They're so cool!
Thx Vincent, but compared with G2 or S95B? Sponsored by Panasonic!!?…
The thing is, I found a deal for an LG 42 C2 for as low as 750€, while the 42 Panasonic costs 1499€. No one can tell me that it's actually double the TV that the C2 is.
Hey Vincent, this time it felt like you were trying to sell the Panasonic instead of just explaining the importance of colour accuracy.
I came to this video, knowing nothing about Accurate colorus, I leave the same... ahhh, you look a lot way better than Henry
Hey mate, this is off topic but I recently purchased an LG Nano 75 (43") and use my PS5 with it. What are the best settings to use on the Tv (on it's own for movies) and in conjunction with the PS5? @HDTV Test
Vincent, many people simply cant get used to warm 50... Its simply not accurate.
Precise accuracy is not important.
A blue tint is noticeable and should be eyeballed corrected.
I personally leave my monitor slightly warm and I can see it on white background.
Can't go wrong with warm and cozy.
So glad u got rid of your insecurities. At the end of the day that never mattered. Your are the go to channel to get my info on TV tech. You are mainly why I got my c1 at the time. Thanks for all the content!
So is this superior to the likes of LG CX ? I'm looking for OLED as A leading feature for my next display
Hi could you please do a video on settings for the nano cell 86? Would be hugely appreciated
What are your recommendations for the LG C3 for playing games? Do you have a video for this?
How much better is the LG C2 compared to the 2018 Q9FN from Samsung in picture quality? I don't know if the upgrade would be worth it.
I never understood the TV makers' decision to make everything blueish in "game mode". Blue hues is more gamery somehow?
Can you make a video measuring color accuracy for Sony A80J in game mode and recommend the best settings?
So which is the best TV for gaming over all? Looking to buy a new TV in the Black Friday sales. Are LG still the best for gaming? or is it the new Samsung S95B? Priority is gaming then fast moving sports.
I'd go Panasonic personally, but Digital Trends just did a best gaming TV video and put the LG in the #1 spot and the Samsung at #2. Digital Trends doesn't have access to Panasonic though as they are in the states.
LG is still the best because they actually support all of the HDMI 2.1 features without any painful downsides.