Could they be on the autistic spectrum and have poor social skills? My brother is, and is very awkward around females. He gives them the creeps, but it's not his fault! 🤗
My ex did something like this when we first were getting to know each other. Sent me tons of pictures of his house and renovations he did…totally trying to impress me and it was very much like you described…like he was trying to sell himself. He was a covert narcissist and blamed all his relationship failures on the many women he’d had and married. After being with him a couple years, I can attest that they failed because of him!!! Just odd and highly disturbed people!
One of the things that struck me about this case is that the guy had hundreds of thousands of dollars in his bank account. That's enough money to change ones life in a lot of different ways....such as travel to other countries to find a partner if necessary. I think the guy had some serious undelying mental issues and not just someone suffering from loneliness.
I think it's possible if he joined dating sites where he can meet women from all across the U.S.. Now, I assume that he never tried looking for love in Asia or Latin America, those are places where is very easy for white men to find "love".. I quoted that word because I can't help but think that many of those women are only using American men for their money and looks.
Social media has exacerbated this problem today than in 2009. As a single male I've gone offline and improved my connections with my community through work, play and volunteer. I could feel bad about myself by comparing other couples my age, but I feel better by using this opportunity of being single by walking dogs at the local shelter who are even more alone. Perhaps I don't know what I'm looking for in a partner, but I will continue to learn more about myself and do the things that I continue to enjoy in the meantime.
This guy (the shooter) didn't seem to have any friends, either. I can only assume that he was antisocial. He seemed to only focus "being lonely" as being without a girlfriend. Instead of having any type of social life.
A middle-aged, middle class man thought he was entitled to a 20 to 35-year-old model. He refused himself a reality check. A hot woman in her 20s to 30s is not going to be romantically interested in a much older man unless he is charming and good-looking and probably taller than average. Even a rich older man will not be seen as anything other than a wallet if there is no physical chemistry there.
Really, when you have no physical or emotional chemistry with someone, of someone goes for you, it's all about the wallet. Men or women. He seems like he's one of those "I'm a nice guy" type. It's sad that he had these mental issues. I wish he had gotten help, and possibly be disabused of his notion that young men had sex 3x daily, and that 30 million women had turned him down. Murder solves nothing. Neither does suicide. But if you look for the "perfect" women and "10s" alone, you will be lonely. I don't know about anyone else, but I have Creep-Dar. I've met a few men in my life that I was around for all of 60 seconds, and knew without doubt that they has the capacity for murder. I couldn't understand women who thought these people were fine. Well, one of them, anyway. For the other two, nobody but one weird guy I knew back then wanted anything to do with him. Even invited the guy to MY parties, at which point everyone there made it clear he was not invited. The same weird guy gave my phone number to yet another unstable weirdo. I had to tell him to stop doing that, because he was becoming creepy too.
@@kwilliams3161 I replied but it wasnt posted apparently. Anyway I said, "Im condoling the families of the lost women in the gym and this incel is ok-ing me, only an incel would do that, only incels mass shoot people or support it, just like the loser in the video."
The amount of times as a woman I've failed at attracting a partner (EVEN in my 20s when I probably looked my best) never made me resentful. I just figured either I'm not as appeasing to the eyes as I thought I was or I just needed to wait for the right guy. It helps to be out and about. I met the love of my life in the most obscure place. 11 years of marriage and we still act like newlyweds.
I agree and would add that men view women as objects. Women usually dont view men that way. I feel like objectification of women is somehow in the DNA of most men. It is so prevelent.
Yeah that's definitely not what the Bible says...people love taking scriptures out of context or taking things literally or just picking and choosing what scriptures do or don't support their narratives.
Instrumentalizing religion, then rationalizing one’s evil deeds through an interpretative molding of what “the holy text says” (or more what that person or group of persons want the text to say), in order to hurt tons of other people (sometimes millions of people) while rationalizing one’s guilt or humanity away… Reminds you of anything else? It has been happening for thousands of years now, history is rife with people committing atrocities and violence against others in the name of the X or Y or Z “religion of peace”. Just look at the Spanish Inquisition. Gruesome torture and breaking of limbs and bones of random people who were merely suspected of being heretics… plenty of innocent people suffered to the mass hysteria, “witch trials”, “holy cleansings”, crusades and other major periods of history. Then look at the western past of the middle east right now, near what was once the fertile croissant, Ancient Mesopotamia -> Assyrian Empire -> Persian Empire -> Alexander’s Empire -> Byzantine -> Ottoman -> Modern countries (Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, the Gulf countries, Iran, Irak, etc) Unfortunately, we see it today. Tens of thousands killed every single day… for what? “My God has told me to wage this holy crusade against you unbelievers who worship a different God!” “My God has justified my desire of vengeance against your people, who have launched missiles 40 years ago against us and killed my uncle and my father! Vengeance!” “My God has told me that this is the holy land, I will go to any measures to occupy this space and create several centuries long wars over this small city since it is Holy! It shall not go into the hands of the ones who worship the wrong words of the wrong God!” Always the same BS. It is all a cycle of violence -> resentment -> hatred -> vendettas -> vengeance -> escalation -> more innocents die in wars they were born into -> more people get radicalized through desperation in the face of extreme violence and conflict -> more people are left with closed ones who suddenly get killed -> hatred and vengeance sets in again for the new generation -> the vicious cycle of vengeance and violence continues. Spirituality shouldn’t be mixed with political practices and military endeavours, since the moment it does, everything goes to sh*t and millions die for no good reason other than nonsensical fanaticism pushing people into justifying their own violent tendencies and crimes through “the word of [insert your God or deity or prophet of choice here, Christian God, Allah, Yahweh, The Great Babadook under the Sea, Zeus, any other of hundreds of thousands of different deities worshipped at different moments during the past millennia in different places of the Earth]” It’s just projection. When somebody says: “God made me do it”, they are in reality saying “My deeply repressed impulses and pulsions that I repressed for a longtime… I have now found the perfect alibi to justify and rationalize them! And to absolve myself from any responsibility from doing something! I will not have to acknowledge that I am responsible for my own decisions, actions and intentionality! How convenient!” Denial, incapacity of taking responsibility, rationalization of antisocial/violent tendencies and behaviour, projection, then sometimes (as in this unfortunate case) what Pinel and other psychiatrists called “passage à l’acte”, or passing to the act… of violent behaviour, agression against others, hostility or even homicide. Incel ideology also played a role, so I am not putting all of this on religious fanaticism/extremism. But there is a common link between extreme religious fanaticism preached by certain extremist groups, and online cult-like ideological groupings: radicalization of certain individuals in there is always a risk, and it can have dire consequences when the ideology takes complete control and precedence over the individual ego of the subject, to the point they feel justified to hurt others (or persecute others, discriminate against others, scheme against others… there are plenty of manners of violence). Sectarianism, cult-like thinking is the same across the board for most cults or cult-like groups or sectarian movements: “I will leave my family and my friends out of my life for the cause” “I will live my life in this way for the cause” “I will dedicate all my time for the cause” “I will not hesitate to suffer for the cause” “The cause is undeniable and unquestionable, the ideology is perfect and the world is corrupted for not believing in what I believe” “I will hurt others for the cause” “I will plan and scheme for the cause” “I will kill for the cause.”
Millions of people have been rejected and/or live lonely lives on the fringe of society but they don't turn to attention getting violence and mass murder. For me, just the mere fact that he was able to plan and go through with that act, shows that the women who rejected him were right on with their instincts about this man. He wasn't pushed to violence by women, he was a narcissistic, likely controlling, violence prone man who was always capable of a horrendous act.
If I knew him, I would have told him to stop trying so hard, relax a bit, do the things that you enjoy, and show the world who you are. In my experience, that is what works... and if you don't get to meet a woman that loves you, at least you'll enjoy your life.
Yeah, in my mid 20's I tried too hard. Combined with being a bit awkward socially, that was it. I finally decided I just didn't care any more, and met my wife fairly shortly thereafter.
@@matthewbrown8679 Priceless lesson about getting in the way of our own success. The key to that, I've found, is to love what's already there in our lives that's worth loving, and not focus on what's not there or what's there but not worth loving.
This is so sad. I struggle to make friends and to date but I’m not killing nobody or myself. It sucks but you gotta live through it and make the best out of whatever life gives you
Pretty much. I have not had a girlfriend in 16 years. During those years, I learned to be content with life and myself. From my lonely experience with myself, it is not worth putting someone over your goals and overall wellness.
Women seem to have an impossible list of requirements today. Very difficult to find a date, let alone keep her interest if you do get one. Better things to spend time and money on.
@@Steve-nb9kg Don't be short like I am my friend as that eliminates about 80% of women who just have to have a "taller" man. I am lucky to have had sex with 15 women in my life, many long term but boy did I have to jump through hoops to get even those 15. You can be ugly but tall and get women. You can be dumb but tall and get women. You can be fat and tall and some woman will like you as you are a teddy bear and you can be tall and poor and get woman. You cannot be short and get woman as I have sadly found out-even though I am smart, in great shape--no paunch on this 68 year old and I have many interests. Besides that, I am a kind and considerate person who treats all people fairly.
So sad a lot of the people at that gym were probably there to better themselves going through there own problems. Whether that was for medical reasons, gain self confidence, or just there to relax and take the stress away. This guy was so selfish and took his anger out on innocent people.
Wrong. He was also there to better himself. After years of doing so with absolutely no change from anyone around him, after years and years of suffering, it makes someone mentally ill. But none of you can see that. He was truly hurting inside. You’ll never understand that pain. Not justifying his actions btw.
There’s really nothing more narcissistic than when an individual want revenge against people who will not behave or think in a way that validates his or her delusional subjective self image.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say "Asperger's." Not understanding other people's feelings, or even realizing that other people have feelings, the total lack of empathy - sounds just like my abusive ex.
I live south of Pittsburgh and remember this quite well. Before the shooting, he was kicked out of a local church for being inappropriate with women. He posted a VERY creepy video of his apartment. Took folks on a tour to tempt women to date him. He joined a men's program called "Balls of Steel" which aimed to teach men how to get a woman. Very sad case.
How the hell do you get kicked out of church? This guy was on some other stuff. He had something seriously undiagnosed going on for sure. In the news, did it say anything about him having family, parents?
I've gone through the same things he has since I graduated high school way back in 1984. Was in two dangerous and narcisstic relationships with two women, the first one lasted ten years, where she weaponized her adult criminal grandson against me to get my disability money. After nearly being killed seven years ago, I finally came to realize that with my disabilities, and lack of ability to support a wife and family, it isnt God's will for me. I never thought to hurt anyone as this guy did. I'm nearly 60 now, and if it happens, it happens. It's no longer a priority in my life. I have hobbies, and interests. Contrary to popular beliefs, sometimes there isn't always "someone for everyone" and that's life.
I see you're a white man.. Why don't white men who experience loneliness, go to Asia to find love? Are you guys aware that in countries like the Philippines or Thailand, women are crazy about white men? Now, of course, some of those women are probably gold diggers, but many of them are also decent women.
I'm so glad you're getting out and enjoying life. Being single shouldn't stop you enjoying your life and the world. Being bitter and alone is a GUARANTEED way to NEVER find a partner. Being happy content and single is the most attractive quality. I'm also disabled and feel how you have, I was diagnosed with ms at 18 and in a wheelchair by 20 unfortunately. Being disabled really destroys your confidence in dating. Because we feel unworthy we tend to pick abusive partners because we believe it's them and their abusive ways or nobody. It's not. Get out there and enjoy your hobby's and hopefully you'll find each other. I know a few guys who finally found happiness at your age or older. Keep being awesome and thank you for your comment 🙏❤️🙏
@@jungk0081 that would be moot. He wants connection and it to be meaningful. Not some 30 day Fiancee type deal. It's actually more pathetic doing that than coming to terms with being alone
Dr Grande, please could you look at the case of Noah Donohoe? He was an intelligent 14 year old boy who set off on a seemingly normal bike ride but possibly had some kind of mental break as he gradually stripped off his clothes and was eventually found deceased in a storm drain. It's honestly one of the most bizarre cases I've ever heard of.
A very strange case. I was on holiday in Belfast not long afterwards and there were lots of 'Justice For Noah' banners across the city. Something really stinks in this case. The police investigation was either totally inept or deliberately mishandled.
What… oh my gosh… what was the cause of death? Edit: ok so he drowned. And his mom had him cremated bc he was scared of the dark. Absolutely heartbreaking.
I got curious and did the math. If you live for 100 years, and deduct 8 hours a day for sleep, and assuming the rejections start at 18, you'd be getting rejected every 28.4116 seconds of your waking life for 82 years. That would be pretty upsetting for anyone.
George was not just looking for a woman to be a romantic partner. He was looking for a woman who was substantially younger, and thus less experienced and knowledgeable about life in general. People, even young women, understand when someone is out to manipulate them. He could have found a romantic partner in a woman closer to his own age. It was his emotional immaturity that prevented him from being able to develop a relationship.
He didn't have experiences with younger women and hence why he was looking for them. He didn't have experiences with much of anybody, if he was telling the truth. According to the news and his neighbors, he rarely left the house and didn't talk to anybody when he did.
@@shebakali6 "Women don't owe you anything" is a common anti-social, social Darwinist, incelerationist utterance used by neoliberal feminists in response to incels pointing out that women are less sexually generous than men. Given everyone knows no one is entitled to sex, a person who says "Women don't owe you anything" is usually saying three things: 1. I have no genuine intention to help shy or ugly men get laid 2. Society has no genuine intention to help shy or ugly men get laid 3. And this is just Incels already know society does not want to help them, so the phrase feels like rubbing the problem in incels' faces. Someone proclaiming their unwillingness to help feels bad in general. Moreover, this is essentially hypocritical because most feminists will insist that society provide for any want or need that women have. Some examples include free emotional labor from doctors/therapists, free housing, free food, free transportation, undeserved hiring and promotion, protection when walking around at 2 A.M., and so on. Incel: 'Once online dating become ubiquitous, less than 20% of men will have a partner.' Feminist: 'Women don't owe you anything.' (This exchange happens a lot between self-described incels and feminists.) Implied meaning from feminist in that context: 'In that situation 80%+ of the men would be unworthy of women, and that would be just.'
I remember a friend of mine who in his forties was angered by rejection by twenty-year-old musicians and artists. He wanted a traditional wife to bear his children and keep house for him, and developed a belief that young women were stupid and immoral for not leaping at this "prime opportunity" to marry him. He was bright and ran a record label, which he felt ought to make up for his lack of physical handsomeness, and also gave him a way to interact with exciting young women playing in bands. When I suggested instead of music clubs, he look elsewhere for women closer to his own age, who might want the same things he did, he became extremely angry and insulted at the whole idea he would "settle for a dog". ONLY the most attractive, creative, and especially YOUNG women counted as possibilities even into his fifties, at which time he became angry at me as well and cut off contact. I have been half-expecting him to poison an entire bar of music fans at some point as revenge for his ill-considered expectations' failure.
There are some very unattractive women in their 50s who think they are entitled to the same things that women in their 20s expect. If you were a man who spent years accumulating the qualities that women expect, why would you want to give those things you exhausted yourself for to an aging, physically unattractive woman?
Men in their 40's expecting 20 y.o. artists to drop everything and become their trad wife are delusional. Just because you are physically capable of impregnating a woman, doesn't mean it can't be too late to start a family. Find someone your own age and adopt, if it's that important.
@eadweard. , Dr. Grande said that George blamed others for his inability to attract women. It seems that he never looked at himself internally to see why women avoided him.
Somehow I have a feeling that if a woman ended up with him they would be in danger, because if George found out that all his problems weren't actually fixed once he had a partner, he would have to conclude there is something is wrong with his partner.
@@Filthy_Larry you are right , but in this particular video we are talking about unhinged incel. He is delusional. He would find problems in others but won’t look in himself.
I know your feeling is 💯 correct. He needed therapy and mental health treatment - he was seriously mentally ill. Those types of people are horrible in romantic relationships.
And part of it is the constant attacks on men/ the patriarchy/white men are all racist/ snarky attitudes towards those outside your group/ the American psychology that you are entitled to have everything you want; and the American culture that it is cool to be snarky; especially to those who you reject as not in a group your psychology exclude or get triggered by. I know of a case where a woman brought her kid to a swimming pool; she laid down to sunbathe and the little girl jumped in and went to the bottom; an older man jumped in and brought the kid up; who was then crying and clinging to, and hugging the man; the mom heard the crying and started yelling at the man; other woman ( none who had been paying attention); joined in. I witnessed it; and my views were dismissed until security camera footage showed it exactly as stated. The mom; nor any of the women apologized to the man. And I don't think anyone is surprised by that. Fifty years ago he would have been a community hero; and everyone would have been getting on the mom's case for not watching her kid; especially one that doesn't know how to swim.
@@craigbritton1089 You make a number of valid and overlooked points. I have often wondered where all these angry people come from whenever there is another mass shooting somewhere. Well, our good ol' controlled media does nothing to discourage this trend. Not only does it thrive on fast, sensational ratings, but it has been open season on men and especially white males for decades. They are the only group who can be legally discriminated against via the process known as Affirmative Action. Nowadays, only women or men of certain ethnicities can be recognized as folk heroes.
@@craigbritton1089 Thats a thing with women. They attack in groups. They even attack women who are being attacked by a man. Like a 14 year old girl had a guy at school make fake nudes of her and spread them around. The girl said they other girls got mad at her. WHY? They should be protecting her not attacking her. I think this is a major problem in society today. I even heard that the Uvalde shooter was being bullied and had many other problems and went to the school to pay the women back for the bullying.
Men making women feel creeped out, then proceeding to confirm that they are every bit as or even more creepy than women felt they were. Women have this 6th sense for survival reasons.
Bundy used false pretenses and the only victim to escape him was creeped out, but he posed as a policeman using authority to “help” her with her broken into car, so yes, although they are forever silenced, I am sure a good number of those victims were creeped out, but they can’t tell us because they didn’t listen to that voice in their head that society had trained them to ignore as “female hysteria” and are dead because of it.
But it doesn't always work all that well - judging from the HUGE numbers of women who end up in abusive relationships/marriages and/or experience gender-based violence of all sorts... 🤷♂️
As someone on the autism spectrum, it’s hard for me to feel sorry for him. I have always had trouble dating or attracting men but I never felt compelled to kill them. Maybe if he had stopped putting himself on a pedestal like Elliot Rogers and got mental health and therapy his life would have gone differently. Unfortunately with narcissism it’s everyone else’s fault.
What, are you like 90 yo? What do you mean, you couldnt attract men? It's like saying that you cant atract a dog with meat. Men are not picky. There are a bunch of guys begging to have a relationship. All you have to do is be available.
@@bestdjaf7499 not reality. everybody gets rejected, nobody will date just anybody, and being on the autism spectrum leads to all sorts of social disconnections that affect all kinds of relationships, or prevent relationships from starting
@@bestdjaf7499 😔 I've also had great difficulty. They just dont approach me, but I have weird habbits like I talk to myself out loud and stim by head banging 🤷♂️ I think it naturally just makes people uncomfortable,also I look very young like 12-15 and as it turns out men aren't actually pedophiles so no help there either 😭😭😭
So happy to hear the word NARCISSIST at the end of your assessment. I was thinking when you mentioned his inability to FEEL or EMPATHIZE he was definitely a NARCISSIST! I don't recall this murderer in the news, but am saddened that he murdered others but glad he is no longer among the living!
But women are entitled to have children no matter how incompetent they are at that; and most men's sex drive is stronger than a woman's drive to have children. This doesn't mean a man is entitled to sex or a woman's attention. But maybe it is a reason to legalize sex work; and to get rid of the cultural psychology that we are all entitled to whatever we want.
Guys like to believe they are great. Doesn't matter how many people want to avoid them, they're narcissistic, entitled, and resentful that others won't validate their delusions.
I wish......just a wish forgive me.....that for the oddity guys there was a decent amount of women for them ......The herd mentally of 80 percent of women for 10 percent of guys is unfortunate but it is what it is but one can still wish.......
thats what makes half of us odd ones odd. its like an interview where they're scanning for you nervousness. want to know the ones who never feel nervous ... psychopaths.
I was thinking that too. People can be really sad from not getting partners. It’s happened since the dawn of time no doubt. But the entitlement-I’m ‘owed’ something- thats where the trouble is
Because mentally-ill men see ejaculating inside a woman as proof they are manly men. The vagina is just an obstacle course to them getting respect from the boys. Good thing they’re out of the gene pool.
I’m reminded of The Doors song “People Are Strange “: “women seem wicked, when you’re unwanted.” I often wonder if there is inherent misogyny that women can sense in these incels that is keeping them single.
female hypergamous nature makes them more attracted to ''popular ''males who are unavailable or who had multiple ex partners. The longer a male is ''single'' the less desirable they are. Women that are attracted to prisoners are a whole other topic however.
I've always thought that ungrateful people are the most miserable. We forget what we have, health, arms and legs, speech, hearing and vision, etc. Instead, we focus on what we don't have. It's a recipe for disaster.
Your comment reminds me of a comic strip I'm having trouble finding. It was a comic strip of, if I remember correctly, one guy in a cheap car looking at a nice car, and he thinks, "Gee, I wish I had that car." Then there's a guy on a bike looking at the cheap car, and he's thinking, "Gee, I wish I had a car." Then there's a guy in a wheelchair looking at the guy on a bike, and he thinks to himself, "Gee, I wish I could bike."
True fact: The word "Incel" was created by a woman named Alana (she doesn't disclose her last name) in the late 90's as a group where men and women who couldn't find dates or love could chat/talk about things.
@@bennym5244 let me slow the original comment down for you. This woman invented the term Incel. She combined those 2 words and attached that meaning to it. How did you get so far from being an intelligent person. But still have the confidence to pretend you are?
i was kind of an incel but i wanted to b married, not fool around. women would rarely even give me their number and i was rejected countless times approaching women. i never felt like going on a rampage though. i was finally married in 96 after rarely dating for 10 years. still w the same woman through thick and thin; thank jesus.
I see this as a win for men and women who go through what you went through. That way you don't make to many soul ties, your mind spirit and body is less "tainted", and when you do find love; it's almost always genuine. Happy you found your person, may God bless your union 🥰.
@@stephanies9071i def c how having indulged in many partners makes it harder to stay committed monogamously. seems common 4 guys to b fearful of marriage no doubt mainly bc it represents committing to 1 partner he rest of ur life. i didnt have that fear. i understood monogamy w marriage under God is the only way love is possible.
I’m failing to see the point pertaining to the video. did you just want to point out that most mass shooters are men and its not fair that women don’t do it??
@@poindextertunesMaybe someone wanted to just share their opinion without being super controversial. Sometimes people can POINT THINGS OUT without having an ulterior motive. She didnt say “its ok bc its women ☕️ “ she simply stated that plenty of women are incels and they dont murder.
Been through what he went through. I'm not like him in that way. I stopped caring, and trying. If anyone is stressing out about this, I advise finding other avenues. What this man did was not the answer. I drown myself in work and chillax on weekends. I go for long walks, bike rides, write, and draw. Travel. Anything constructive and beneficial to others is the best answer in dealing with personal problems.
You would think with 30 million women shooting at once at in a gym there would be some accidental cross fire . That seems like an excessive amount of people in a gym at one time. Plus , that's not counting the men
I knew a young guy, similar situation that also took his own life. He was just socially awkward and tried to hard. I used to tell him to just get active in some kind of activity where he would meet people and he would ultimately meet someone. He was his dads only son. Pretty sad situation.
@scifirealism5943 When I was young and dinosaurs roamed the flat earth I was extremely shy. And pretty awkward socially. I was terrified at the prospect of approaching a girl and being rejected in front of God and everybody. If not for peer pressure and a little bullying from my friends I would have never gotten over it.
I think it is ok to have compassion for George-but also realize that his entitlement made him dangerous and that your compassion would not be reciprocated from him. I wish there was a better way to catch on to people like this and give them mental health care before something like this happens. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.
I admit that I wanted the ladies to be more fair and give every guy at least a chance but that's not reality and thanks to Dr Albert Ellis Emotional Rational Therapy I don't struggle with this view anymore 🙏 Mental Health is definitely important now more than ever!
I totally agree. I do think society puts an unreasonable amount of pressure on men to be perfect and find a perfect match, but most people look inward towards what is wrong with them instead of blaming others. I guess if this guy is a sociopath he cannot understand emotions and how important it is to communicate on an emotional level with people. I mean, did he have any close friends? That is usually a sign to watch out if a person has NO friends.
@@BlaximilianD00d I agree. People could care less about those that were killed, except the victims' friends and family. Today, the people who lost their lives are irrelevant and nobody cares. I have no idea who they are b/c it wasn't mentioned in the video - only the incel himself was talked about.
So what you’re saying is your could have dropped him a little neck and saved those women ? Joking of course but not of the dead.what impression did he give you ?
So he had a personality that tends to turn off women...This is interesting, considering that most men would love to find a woman who is quiet and polite! sounds like a perfect woman! Not to mention that this guy was also handworker, kept his house clean and organized, worked out... Man, I would love to find a woman with all those traits! The "problem" with this guy is that he lacked humor skills, social skills, leadership skills, and many other things that women judge men on.
It is so sad that a man has to be this lonely to the point of murder and suicide. They never look at themselves and their behaviors as being a turn off.
What is Woke Culture all about other than psychologically saying that tat everyone is a "Victim"; so it is no surprise that those whom The Woke accuse of being " The Oppressor"; feel like a victim: and when The Woke say you should be publicly angry if a white woman wears a sari; or whites own a restaurant that serves Asian food; why is anyone surprised when white men get angry over " micro aggressions" they think they suffer; and we all know angry white men with guns are more likely to shoot people; than loot stores; or demand someone lose their job; or seek therapy
I constantly look how to improve myself and still dont get any answers from women at online dating. Your comment is just hate against men. There is an idiom: Dog, women and children are loved unconditionally but men are loved only under the condition that they provide. Because of that there are Passport Bros who go to Asia to find a women, because western women are full of hate against men.
@@James_36 I never said they do make all the correct mating choices. When women deny their gut-feeling, that's when they end up getting in bad situations. That doesn't take away from what I said.
It’s not the peoples fault. It’s the same for many thousand women who just stay home in peace and love their family. No one is entitled to other souls. You go out and be kind and expect nothing and you will have friends and from there a lady who appreciates you even at your age. The word is kindness
Dude... no one gives a shit about lonely men, for real. It is the ugly truth of society. And if they say they care, it is only a ruse or grift. I've been a hermit for almost 10 years, only associating with family, and shit... even family doesn't really give a shit about men. It is just the way it is and will always be.
There are actually ones out there, but the problem seems to be that the only groups willing to offer these are far right groups like Tate. There needs to be healthier support groups that do a better job of this.
These incentives men have other issues besides being socially awkward. There must be mental health issues at play to be so lacking in self awareness and to have such a sense of entitlement.
@@dbased1915 Problem is people buy into that delusion and, in a sense, become intoxicated by it. In other words, it becomes their only understanding of reality. There's a balance that must be had. A man with money will attract more of the gold-digging types. A man with no money will attract people with similar problems. The best case I've seen is people who share the same profession and have met very early in their lives.
I have a close family member who went through a nasty divorce about 15 years ago who simply can’t get over it. I have personally witnessed this person saying outrageous things just like this guy did. I worry about this sort of thing everyday
If you are afraid that they will hurt others, you can get welfare checks done on them by the police/ambulance. You can also look into getting an involuntary mental health assessment done - ask your GP or theirs if you can.
What a terrible man! He should just accept a society in which women can take everything from him in court without him having done anything wrong. Women most affected. The entitlement is real.
He also waited until he was in his 50s and on top of that INSTEAD OF going after women in his own age range he went after women in their 20s and 30s. And then expected those women to not find him a creepy old man. Okay.
If he were rich and famous and had a history of being a hearthrob like Leo Di Caprio, he wouldn't come across as creepy (though people do make fun of his dating "choices")! 🤣🤣🤣
Is being old with a considerably younger wife always "creepy"? If you have enough money, women will be drawn to you. On average, it's not really about age or looks for women - the science says it's just about access to resources. Anyone who has lived in or is familiar with culture outside of the West would see this.
Need more info but I could believe he was popular from high school to college hence he slept with women until then. Somewhere along the lines odd things happened and made him act quiet and polite around new circles.
I highly doubt he couldn’t have found at least 1 woman who wanted to date him, the fact that he went after women so much younger than him usually means he thinks women his age are “unattractive” (because they won’t just do whatever you say or be intimidated easily) therefore cutting out a great portion of the options available to him. More often than not the kind of guys who go for much younger partners are controlling, have a temper, and have a lack of self-control.
Two women wanted to date me, one of them wanted to have sex with me. However, I was too scared with one woman and too lazy with the other. I'm a recluse.
Well, just like most women judge men on height, in the same way, many men (not all men) want a woman younger than them. If you believe that men who pursue younger women are 'controlling,' then one could argue that women who 'require' a man who is 1 foot taller than them have daddy issues."
You know how women tend to like men who are older because they are more established financially and more mature? Well.. men in general tend to like younger women because they're more feminine and fertile and men like agreeable women, older women tend to be less agreeable and more jaded, and tend to have more moula than the younger women which means she is harder to please and the man would need more money than her in order to be admired by her.
😂 I was thinking serial killer vibes when you said that exact line... Putting a video of your house online the way he did was a little odd. People just need to be themselves and not try so hard. I believe there is always someone for everyone. Great analysis as always, Dr. grande. ❤
It's a nice sentiment, but I don't necessarily think there's always someone out there for everyone. At least that's what I think as a mindset. If someone thinks they deserve somebody or that there is always somebody is out there there ready for them, then it may generate entitlement issues.
@@MrSdsok Just because you've got people around you it's not their responsibility to correct our thinking. It's the individuals own responsibility to refine their own emotional intelligence.
No, you’re saying he was like this from the start. That isn’t true. His behaviors grew out of frustration due to his autistic like inability to understand how to be social.
@@jcransome5616He wasn't that bad looking, though, and he was 5'10"! I know WAY worse looking dudes who are happily attached/married. It's all about the personality, in this case.
These types of men have very very high expectations with women. He's basically looking for the perfect 10 and has convinced himself that that is what he needs and what he should have.
There’s a guy at my work that just rage quit and he admitted to having a problem with women and I’m actually concerned that he’s going to come back in with a pow pow.
It sounds concerning. See if he had any friends at work, maybe someone could talk with him. I think most killers feel alone in the world and that no one cares about them.
According to the news story back then, this guy didn't even really go around women. He sat in the house all day and only left the house to go to work and back, without talking to anyone.
This is why you need to work on yourself first. Sometimes you just need to talk to someone. You don't have to go through your problems alone. Even in the olden days, with no therapy. People who didn't know how to deal with their problems, worked on something positive. Like a job. They gave themselves the opportunity to meet people from all walks of life, and form relationships that changed their perspective on life and themselves. It can happen for you too, if you work at it. "Those who reject change are architects of decay."
He was a decent looking guy (nice face, square jaw, in shape etc) so his personality must’ve been truly insufferable if he kept getting rejected. I also have to note that the parallels between him and Classic Chris Chan are glaring (Love Quest, house tour, hating boyfriends etc.).
Now ask the girls what they rate him and there you will find your problem. Today they will rate him a 3/10. This is the issue. Women have become narcissistically deluded.
Thank you for the great presentation! As a psychotherapist, I say, yes, definitely an inflated ego/narcissism going on here, but in my humble opinion, it also screams Neurodivergence. If unchecked by psychotherapy, a support system, etc., then Aspergers plus a "dark triad" personality constellation (especially low or no empathy, low conscience) spells disaster for others. If it was Aspergers alone, he may have still given up all hope and completed suicide, tragically. It is the Narcissism that spells doom for the people he encountered. I love your videos! Keep 'em coming.
I also thought of him being neurodivergent. It's very hard, but people can *learn* to be more social with practice and therapy. I'm not the most outgoing person but I'm much better at socializing (for short periods) than I ever used to be. I don't think - I really hope, anyway - that I'm not a narcissist. Since I have never had the desire to hurt anyone else, and I have complete aversion to any sort of confrontation, I hope that's a good sign. I've contemplated suicide, but never homicide. Anyway, thanks for your insightful assessment!
@jooleebilly if you ever consider suicide, please call someone you trust for help! We all have times when we have dark thoughts but you must realize then that you need help. Surround yourself with a support system, You are Not Alone.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@jooleebillyYou're not a narcissist. A true narc never stops and ask themselves these questions. Its common for us to feel like a narc when we are prone to people pleasing and conflict avoidant, as you put it. Because its a survival instinct, and ultimately is driven by the preservation of self. This is however not narcissistic. This feeling is rather common among neurodivergent people, Im ADHD (not diagnosed but I have read up on it for years and I strongly suspect it) I tend to hate conflict and im basically a pathological people pleaser, and in a sense wanting to please everyone around you means you sometimes have to be dishonest about your own feelings and sometimes have to lie. But Its not something we are stuck with forever we just have to find our own strength first
Actually yes, these type of people would go into a job interview unqualified looking like a soup sandwich and being a creep and a jerk at the same time and then cry about not getting the job! I have known quite a few quys and gals like this. It seems like some of the younger generation automatically think this way! They are entitled to anything the believe they deserve!
It is really really sad that so many lonely dudes never bother to see women as individuals or understand what they really want. "I've got money, I'm handsome, and my couches match...now deliver the goods or else!" Gosh.
this is an awful analogy. You can change or make a new product, you cant change your face without invasive expensive surgeries which have a high chance of making you look worse.
Likely his greatest deficit was his inability to see women as actual people. People with value greater than their outward appearance. His superficiality made him interested in a very small percentage of the population; and his lack of good values made him undesirable to everyone.
@@Redacted24-r2hof course he wasn't sitting anywhere. He didn't have time to do that. It would have taken him 130 days at 1 second per rejection for 24 hour periods for him to reach that number. If we give him time for sleep and to get ready, and eat, presumably he immediately ran from woman to woman for a period of about 10 years straight. He didn't even give them time to say yes.
I admit I laughed at the delusional idea that all people have sex three times a day, like they don’t have work or other responsibilities that don’t leave one drained of sexual drive. But it’s still scary how someone’s unchecked beliefs and behaviors can lead to tragedies like these. 😔
It's not delusional for me. Me and my wife have sex 3x a day at least 3 days a week. We do it at least once a day. I can't even remember the last time we didn't have sex.🤷♂️
Dr. Todd Grande has seamlessly combined psychology and entertainment to create videos that are both logical and informative in a well-balanced manner. There is no other channel of this kind that I watch with such pleasure. Great work!
Dr. Grande has distastefully combined reckless conjecture with sophomoric snarkiness, often at the expense of the mentally ill. It is a huge disservice to them and to the professionals who treat them. If you really enjoy his content then I suggest you check out Katy Morton as she is even more immature and an even bigger disgrace to the field of mental health which will probably tickle your funny bone even better.
I remember this case when it occurred. It became the forerunner what is known as today's incel population. Elliot Rodger, Dylann Roof, Robert Aaron, and James Jackson etc added to that list.
@@angryox3102 He (Roof), who targeted the parishioners figuring they were easier targets by likely being unarmed, mentioned his anger at interracial sex as Sodini did in his writings.
Why do people like this always feel like to have to take other people out before they end themselves? Why do they feel like they're entitled enough to punish people for their imaginary wrongs in their head?
@@RPKGameVids because they think they’re wronged and want their perceived justice to be restored. The proper fix is to listen to them and try to address their concerns if possible. For instance, the dude had problems dating. Maybe he could be a great dad but he wasn’t exposed to women who like him? Maybe some offline dating club for awkward people could help here? Or something else? It’s always easier to blame others instead of offering any solutions.
People like this vary rarely feel the need to hurt other people. Men commit suicide at 4 times the rate of women. Most men just bare the pain or they take it out on themselves. These guys just get all the attention because there the extreme exceptions. The problem is that for all of the other guys like me who just bare the pain we also have to deal with millions of people conflating us with murderers and dismissing our suffering as "entitlement" just so they can hate on an actual murderer like this.
Because in all reality he has the free will to do it and some people are just brought to the brink weather because of bullying or feeling lonely some people just are on the brink.
😂🎉🎉 Cereal 🥣 killer basement tour… Oh man Doctor you had me, Trippin, bro, I had to listen to that three times. That was actually a bit of levity that I didn’t expect. Nicely done.
A lot of people in that community seem to think the term "creepy" is unfounded or merely a shallow response to ugliness. Most often those people fail to understand creepy behaviors are about intent. When a woman is approached by a sincere person, they know he wants to get to know her and it might lead to a romantic encounter. When a creepy guy approaches a woman, it's pretty clear his intent starts with an expectation of romance and he will say anything to get there. It's putting the cart before the horse that turns so many people off. Another thing that scares us women, whenever I hear an incel is envious of all the "chads" who behave badly and still get girls, all I hear is "I don't have enough pretty privilege to treat women like crap". So yeah bud, women don't appreciate it when you generalize an entire gender because you see toxic couples sometimes.
Women aren't a hive mind. Some use the term creepy unfairly and some don't. I have met some really sadistic nutjobs. I have also met some awesome ones and am with one. They aren't any better or worse than guys.
It's also interesting they never shoot the "chad's", always the women. Yet he must have been boiling inside everytime he saw women responding to chad's.
I also notice Creepy is used just to judge men they don't even know. I've been called that by a few ladies all for just "asking them out". But I never took offense, it only told me that she is the hateful one and has never aged her way out of high school.
Also ppl who just refuse to go out of the box when socializing, waiting for someone to essentially just fall in their arms the way they want. Not realistic.
@@richardsilden5683it's not a paper being graded. Not any reward for getting it right in a youtube comment section. Any thing it's even more pointless to point it out because you have contributed nothing to what they said.
People tend to overthink romance, at the end of the day you just have to be yourself and it's up to the world to accept you for who you are.. Just be content do your best and don't ever look at people as objects. Take it from a guy like myself, I'm an amputee and I've heard everything in the book, did that stop me from putting my best foot forward? Absolutely not everyone deserves love.
That's the problem in our present age *ENTITLEMENT.* EVERYONE DOES NOT DESERVE LOVE!!! YOU EARN IT BY EARNING SOMEONE'S TRUST AND PROVING YOUR WORTH: MEANING PROVING YOU ARE COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR POTENTIALS PARTNERS LIFE, GOALS, DREAMS, LIFESTYLE, VALUES, PHILOSOPHIES, MATURITY, HEALTH, INTEREST ETC. THAT'S WHY THERE'S AN LONELINESS PROBLEM PEOPLE ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH SO MANY PEOPLE AND ENTITLED!!!
He didn't even see his shortcomings. He has no self awareness. What he hated was losing his delusions. The fact that he was of a certain age and still unable to start a family was threatening all of his delusions of grandeur. This was a narcissistic psychopath using a vulnerable facade, but still very much a narcissist with all the entitled grandiosity required to make a mass murderer.
I tried doing softball league... I just got jammed into a group of strangers who had no interest of getting to know me. One of their little crotch goblins keyed my car because no one was watching them, and I told myself I would never do that shit ever again.
@@CowToesSome people just aint worth it. You got unlucky being placed with a bunch of assholes. Youre the better man for not falling to their level, which is what they want you to do
I always feel that you hit the nail on the head when you analyze these individuals and I get a better understanding of the circumstances surrounding some of their actions, not all but the more I listen the better it is not to judge a book etc..etc. thank you🌹
I have been labeled as UGLY by women for 62 years and I haven’t killed anyone. As a matter of fact, the older I get, the HAPPIER I become. Yeah, it sucks being alone but, in general, I am doing fine (psychologically and financially).😊
Glad to hear that. Once my folks go, i'll have no more ties to the outside world. I've always been a loner who enjoys his own company, but I hope complete and utter loneliness doesn't prove too much for me to take.
I discovered after my divorce that I actually enjoy being alone (I’m female). My family and friends are enough. Weirdly though, some friends keep trying to talk me into dating. They say, don’t you feel lonely? I answer that I know plenty of married people who are lonely. Marriage is not a guarantee of rainbows and sparkles. It’s hard work.
I'm not an Incel in my mindset at all - but, I understand his frustration & sense of "nothing I do works" feeling. I just try to shrug my shoulders, keep going & try not to let it drag me down. But, it naturally does after 23-years of being single. Hating women - let alone killing them, is horrific; that's the difference between 'true' Incels & Incels who don't blame anyone for their situation - it's just the way things are for some of us, unfortunately.
But he didn't do the one thing that would have very likely made the biggest difference: sticking with women who were closer to his own age. Instead he got it into his head that he deserved a much younger woman and he dismissed older women that would have probably been a good match for him.
This really goes to show that the way you carry and project yourself makes all the difference. There's an actor named Joel Kinnaman who could potentially look kinda goofy because he's thin, lanky, and has big ears. But he has a deep voice and carries himself very well and I gained a crush on him the moment I heard/saw him speak. This incel George was actually physically handsome but he must've been a real creep for him to be repelling women left and right. If he just had some inner confidence and charisma, his life could have gone in a totally different trajectory.
Dr Grande, I want to thank you. I'm a natural introvert. I have little need for people contact & prefer to spend my time helping animals & insects. Your case studies show there's a pandemic of narcissism out there & my quiet life, away from humans, is the best choice 😊
I love that you help animals and insects. I'm an introvert too. I help animals if I can. I never want a partner ever. Nor friends. The friends I've had all used me and treated me bad. So I prefer to be alone.
I can not imagine being attracted to this guy when I was in my 20s or thirty's He is not a bad looking guy but he does give off a creepy vibe even in the picture Desperation turns everyone off It feels like a needy child and its a scary feeling in a grown man He wants mommy not a women of his own age and he is a Narc and NO ONE wants to be with a narcissist There was a lot going on with him and none of it healthy I am so sorry for the victims
Narcs are powerful, they manipulate others. Mummy boys are weak, they cannot manipulate others. A person cannot be both at the same time, it’s impossible.
@@Filthy_Larrywhy would you make this comment? How do you know this person wasn’t looking in her 20s-30s? Why do you feel the need to post something so I mature and unattractive? Also how do you know she is looking for someone??? Are you stalking her social media or something??
He wants mommy? Not a woman his own age? Dont you mean he wants daughter? You dont sound like you know what youre talking about. Also, when woman say mommy, they are saying im only good as a hole and I wont actually love you. Not wife material at all. Belong to the streets.
@luisruiz7729 dude... if they didn't want you then why would the same 20 year olds give you a chance now that you're older, creepier and even more bitter. Make it make sense.
Sometimes relationships are overrated. All you need in life is good coffee ☕ great movies 🎥 a beginning stand up career to humiliate yourself and little mini trips along the way. And t.v. 😊😊😊😊😊
Dr. Grande, it’s scary as a woman to put up with the wrath of a guy because you don’t want to pursue a romantic relationship with him. I dealt with this a lot in my youth. It is incredibly common and a real problem for all involved. Many men let resentment build, and many woman are afraid to even smile at a guy for fear he’ll be instantly enamoured. I had one guy writing me a love letter and when I gave the “we can be friends” talk his resentment was palpable… for decades! Ridiculous and very, very sad. I know it works both ways, that women get obsessed and/or harass men, too, it’s just less common. I wonder what the solution is. 😞
The solution is voluntary euthanasia. There are always going to be millions of men who aren't good enough for women, who are unwanted permanently because they weren't born good enough. How can anyone ever be happy knowing they are unwanted genetic dead-ends. That's almost a guarantee of su*c*de or worse, so just let us end it ourselves.
@@animal79thecatWomen cant be up front. They constantly try to be a chameleon to seek everyone’s approval in case they need something from them. They are fake by nature
@@animal79thecatI cant remember who it was, but centuries ago was a philosopher that said similar. Nietzsche was one “Her art is the lie. Her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty.”
Hi Dr. Grande, good morning from Southern California. Excellent analysis. I love the way some people blame others for what is clearly their problem. Plus I hear a Violin in the background . As always I learn something new from your videos.
I think there's no worse rejection than "self rejection". I've known some people who predict a bad outcome in almost everything before it even happens.... and of course the outcome is always negative.
I'm going to get laughed at for this, but i really believe that in the case of violent incels, pornography plays a huge role. (Note i said role. I'm not saying it's completely to blame and I'm not saying that everyone who looks at porn reacts to it the same way as an incel). Porn brainwashes young developing brains that women, in general, should be ready and willing to have sex at all times. That women exist for men's pleasure. That women are just horny constantly and ready to have sex if a man simply approaches. When real life doesn't operate this way, they can't understand why.
I don't see it referenced that he was an avid porn watcher. I believe the anti-porn stuff is hogwash. It doesn't have a big affect on people good or bad. Lot of hype. He had zero luck with ladies, a'lot of men don't. Don't need to invent an exotic explanation. 99% of these guys don't do mass shootings however.
I agree. There is an inability to read nuance and , perhaps, an inabiity to separate reality from fantasy, from what seems to get said. Women are supposed to be ready, willing, and subservient in every way. It's black and white, extreme thinking based on a faulty interpretation of the world and trying to reduce that thinking into a formula that works, which it can't
I just read his blog. He had a lunch date with someone he met on the bus. Did he make plans for them to go out again? Also, at the very end, where he had notes; he stated he had a daughter in 1991 with (names person who was the sister of his highschool friend) but hasn't been in contact since "4 months in". Why didn't he search for them?
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I will never understand how people can clearly be the common denominator in their romantic failures and still blame everyone else.
Could they be on the autistic spectrum and have poor social skills? My brother is, and is very awkward around females. He gives them the creeps, but it's not his fault! 🤗
Apply that to literally ever issue somebody has in life, lol you won't do that.
I understand it. It's a simple mechanism.
You'll never understand.....but, seriously, have you ever tried to?
Everyone wants to be loved
My ex did something like this when we first were getting to know each other. Sent me tons of pictures of his house and renovations he did…totally trying to impress me and it was very much like you described…like he was trying to sell himself. He was a covert narcissist and blamed all his relationship failures on the many women he’d had and married. After being with him a couple years, I can attest that they failed because of him!!! Just odd and highly disturbed people!
That's a secret, you don't try to impress women. Men who do end up miserable.
One of the things that struck me about this case is that the guy had hundreds of thousands of dollars in his bank account. That's enough money to change ones life in a lot of different ways....such as travel to other countries to find a partner if necessary. I think the guy had some serious undelying mental issues and not just someone suffering from loneliness.
Definitely.
Bingo. It's both in vogue and reasonable to give up on American women and seek wife elsewhere.
In the vid it was noted he did travel. Probably creeped out women across the globe. An international creeper if you will.
@@pierrechildress8875😂 international creeper. Great moniker.
Only people suffering are his victims. Does evil not exist? Is it all underlying mental issues we have no control over?
I could be wrong because I've never been good at math, but I think there isn't enough time in a life to be rejected 30 million times.
Yeah I thought that too.
I think it's possible if he joined dating sites where he can meet women from all across the U.S.. Now, I assume that he never tried looking for love in Asia or Latin America, those are places where is very easy for white men to find "love".. I quoted that word because I can't help but think that many of those women are only using American men for their money and looks.
There are some guys that will literally ask every woman they meet which... explains everything lol
Nowadays with Tinder and a large city, you can knock that out pretty quick.
@@et9120 yeah I guess that is true, I didn’t even think of that, good point.
Social media has exacerbated this problem today than in 2009.
As a single male I've gone offline and improved my connections with my community through work, play and volunteer.
I could feel bad about myself by comparing other couples my age, but I feel better by using this opportunity of being single by walking dogs at the local shelter who are even more alone.
Perhaps I don't know what I'm looking for in a partner, but I will continue to learn more about myself and do the things that I continue to enjoy in the meantime.
You coukd also try a counsellor or psychologist who could work through any personal problems. It has helped some people find partners.
Knowing this about you makes you more attractive ❤
I just turned 29 and I'm still a virgin.
I've given up on dating and hook up apps.
This guy (the shooter) didn't seem to have any friends, either. I can only assume that he was antisocial. He seemed to only focus "being lonely" as being without a girlfriend. Instead of having any type of social life.
A middle-aged, middle class man thought he was entitled to a 20 to 35-year-old model. He refused himself a reality check. A hot woman in her 20s to 30s is not going to be romantically interested in a much older man unless he is charming and good-looking and probably taller than average. Even a rich older man will not be seen as anything other than a wallet if there is no physical chemistry there.
Hard pill to swallow. He should have just been honest with himself, and then perhaps dated sugar babies.
FACT!
Blame feminism for some of this. Feminism has caused a lot of trouble.
Really, when you have no physical or emotional chemistry with someone, of someone goes for you, it's all about the wallet. Men or women. He seems like he's one of those "I'm a nice guy" type. It's sad that he had these mental issues. I wish he had gotten help, and possibly be disabused of his notion that young men had sex 3x daily, and that 30 million women had turned him down. Murder solves nothing. Neither does suicide. But if you look for the "perfect" women and "10s" alone, you will be lonely. I don't know about anyone else, but I have Creep-Dar. I've met a few men in my life that I was around for all of 60 seconds, and knew without doubt that they has the capacity for murder. I couldn't understand women who thought these people were fine. Well, one of them, anyway. For the other two, nobody but one weird guy I knew back then wanted anything to do with him. Even invited the guy to MY parties, at which point everyone there made it clear he was not invited. The same weird guy gave my phone number to yet another unstable weirdo. I had to tell him to stop doing that, because he was becoming creepy too.
He couldn’t get ANYTHING.
Wow my condolences to the families of the lost three women that were killed in the gym.
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I dont use this word often but man do I have to say, "incel" if one replied to my comment.
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@@mtflieutenant7693can you explain what you mean by someone replying to your comment ?
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I replied but it wasnt posted apparently.
Anyway I said, "Im condoling the families of the lost women in the gym and this incel is ok-ing me, only an incel would do that, only incels mass shoot people or support it, just like the loser in the video."
The amount of times as a woman I've failed at attracting a partner (EVEN in my 20s when I probably looked my best) never made me resentful. I just figured either I'm not as appeasing to the eyes as I thought I was or I just needed to wait for the right guy. It helps to be out and about. I met the love of my life in the most obscure place. 11 years of marriage and we still act like newlyweds.
I believe the reason women don't act like George is because men feel ENTITLED to women and sex.
Beautiful comment:)
I agree and would add that men view women as objects. Women usually dont view men that way. I feel like objectification of women is somehow in the DNA of most men. It is so prevelent.
@@scifirealism5943 Dude, you are so cringe 🤢
@@vanessasmith6925yes.
The “Jesus already died for my sins so I’m going to heaven regardless of murder” train of thought is so extremely terrifying holy shxt 😳
That's not how Jesus or Christianity works. Or any religion, that I can think of.
Yeah that's definitely not what the Bible says...people love taking scriptures out of context or taking things literally or just picking and choosing what scriptures do or don't support their narratives.
Yeah, well I don't believe that's going to happen.
It is the cheap grace of once saved; always saved crap.
Instrumentalizing religion, then rationalizing one’s evil deeds through an interpretative molding of what “the holy text says” (or more what that person or group of persons want the text to say), in order to hurt tons of other people (sometimes millions of people) while rationalizing one’s guilt or humanity away…
Reminds you of anything else? It has been happening for thousands of years now, history is rife with people committing atrocities and violence against others in the name of the X or Y or Z “religion of peace”.
Just look at the Spanish Inquisition. Gruesome torture and breaking of limbs and bones of random people who were merely suspected of being heretics… plenty of innocent people suffered to the mass hysteria, “witch trials”, “holy cleansings”, crusades and other major periods of history.
Then look at the western past of the middle east right now, near what was once the fertile croissant, Ancient Mesopotamia -> Assyrian Empire -> Persian Empire -> Alexander’s Empire -> Byzantine -> Ottoman -> Modern countries (Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, the Gulf countries, Iran, Irak, etc)
Unfortunately, we see it today. Tens of thousands killed every single day… for what?
“My God has told me to wage this holy crusade against you unbelievers who worship a different God!”
“My God has justified my desire of vengeance against your people, who have launched missiles 40 years ago against us and killed my uncle and my father! Vengeance!”
“My God has told me that this is the holy land, I will go to any measures to occupy this space and create several centuries long wars over this small city since it is Holy! It shall not go into the hands of the ones who worship the wrong words of the wrong God!”
Always the same BS. It is all a cycle of violence -> resentment -> hatred -> vendettas -> vengeance -> escalation -> more innocents die in wars they were born into -> more people get radicalized through desperation in the face of extreme violence and conflict -> more people are left with closed ones who suddenly get killed -> hatred and vengeance sets in again for the new generation -> the vicious cycle of vengeance and violence continues.
Spirituality shouldn’t be mixed with political practices and military endeavours, since the moment it does, everything goes to sh*t and millions die for no good reason other than nonsensical fanaticism pushing people into justifying their own violent tendencies and crimes through “the word of [insert your God or deity or prophet of choice here, Christian God, Allah, Yahweh, The Great Babadook under the Sea, Zeus, any other of hundreds of thousands of different deities worshipped at different moments during the past millennia in different places of the Earth]”
It’s just projection. When somebody says: “God made me do it”, they are in reality saying “My deeply repressed impulses and pulsions that I repressed for a longtime… I have now found the perfect alibi to justify and rationalize them! And to absolve myself from any responsibility from doing something! I will not have to acknowledge that I am responsible for my own decisions, actions and intentionality! How convenient!”
Denial, incapacity of taking responsibility, rationalization of antisocial/violent tendencies and behaviour, projection, then sometimes (as in this unfortunate case) what Pinel and other psychiatrists called “passage à l’acte”, or passing to the act… of violent behaviour, agression against others, hostility or even homicide.
Incel ideology also played a role, so I am not putting all of this on religious fanaticism/extremism. But there is a common link between extreme religious fanaticism preached by certain extremist groups, and online cult-like ideological groupings: radicalization of certain individuals in there is always a risk, and it can have dire consequences when the ideology takes complete control and precedence over the individual ego of the subject, to the point they feel justified to hurt others (or persecute others, discriminate against others, scheme against others… there are plenty of manners of violence). Sectarianism, cult-like thinking is the same across the board for most cults or cult-like groups or sectarian movements:
“I will leave my family and my friends out of my life for the cause”
“I will live my life in this way for the cause”
“I will dedicate all my time for the cause”
“I will not hesitate to suffer for the cause”
“The cause is undeniable and unquestionable, the ideology is perfect and the world is corrupted for not believing in what I believe”
“I will hurt others for the cause”
“I will plan and scheme for the cause”
“I will kill for the cause.”
Millions of people have been rejected and/or live lonely lives on the fringe of society but they don't turn to attention getting violence and mass murder. For me, just the mere fact that he was able to plan and go through with that act, shows that the women who rejected him were right on with their instincts about this man. He wasn't pushed to violence by women, he was a narcissistic, likely controlling, violence prone man who was always capable of a horrendous act.
Thank you! 💯
Some people are just born bad seeds.
Yes, thank you telling it how it is!
But he had matching couches!
@@gold707786 :D, I was laughing the whole video, such a stupid guy
If I knew him, I would have told him to stop trying so hard, relax a bit, do the things that you enjoy, and show the world who you are. In my experience, that is what works... and if you don't get to meet a woman that loves you, at least you'll enjoy your life.
Good advice. Dancing is a great place to meet people, ballroom or Latin. Also garden clubs.
Or take some drugs and chill the fuck out.
I would have told him to go on line and order a bride.
Yeah, in my mid 20's I tried too hard. Combined with being a bit awkward socially, that was it. I finally decided I just didn't care any more, and met my wife fairly shortly thereafter.
@@matthewbrown8679 Priceless lesson about getting in the way of our own success. The key to that, I've found, is to love what's already there in our lives that's worth loving, and not focus on what's not there or what's there but not worth loving.
This is so sad. I struggle to make friends and to date but I’m not killing nobody or myself. It sucks but you gotta live through it and make the best out of whatever life gives you
Pretty much. I have not had a girlfriend in 16 years. During those years, I learned to be content with life and myself. From my lonely experience with myself, it is not worth putting someone over your goals and overall wellness.
Women seem to have an impossible list of requirements today. Very difficult to find a date, let alone keep her interest if you do get one. Better things to spend time and money on.
@@Steve-nb9kg Don't be short like I am my friend as that eliminates about 80% of women who just have to have a "taller" man. I am lucky to have had sex with 15 women in my life, many long term but boy did I have to jump through hoops to get even those 15. You can be ugly but tall and get women. You can be dumb but tall and get women. You can be fat and tall and some woman will like you as you are a teddy bear and you can be tall and poor and get woman. You cannot be short and get woman as I have sadly found out-even though I am smart, in great shape--no paunch on this 68 year old and I have many interests. Besides that, I am a kind and considerate person who treats all people fairly.
You just haven’t been pushed enough to reach that point yet buddy.
So sad a lot of the people at that gym were probably there to better themselves going through there own problems. Whether that was for medical reasons, gain self confidence, or just there to relax and take the stress away. This guy was so selfish and took his anger out on innocent people.
Wrong. He was also there to better himself. After years of doing so with absolutely no change from anyone around him, after years and years of suffering, it makes someone mentally ill.
But none of you can see that. He was truly hurting inside. You’ll never understand that pain.
Not justifying his actions btw.
@@BEAST.420Gand? Other people are also suffering, he's not special.
@@Mukyuify Is everyone mentally ill? And if everyone is suffering, does that mean we should ignore that?
@@BEAST.420G I feel sorry for Sodini. He was in pain.
If I remember correctly, he ended up targeting a class full of middle-aged women.
There’s really nothing more narcissistic than when an individual want revenge against people who will not behave or think in a way that validates his or her delusional subjective self image.
That’s the majority of Americans! 🤣😂🤣😂
Yet look at how many murderers on death row have groupies who want to marry them in prison. There are a lot of desperate females out there.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say "Asperger's." Not understanding other people's feelings, or even realizing that other people have feelings, the total lack of empathy - sounds just like my abusive ex.
Just Americans?
I have a feeling george might be autistic
I live south of Pittsburgh and remember this quite well. Before the shooting, he was kicked out of a local church for being inappropriate with women. He posted a VERY creepy video of his apartment. Took folks on a tour to tempt women to date him. He joined a men's program called "Balls of Steel" which aimed to teach men how to get a woman. Very sad case.
How the hell do you get kicked out of church? This guy was on some other stuff. He had something seriously undiagnosed going on for sure. In the news, did it say anything about him having family, parents?
My nieces were in the gym when this happened but were not injured.
balls of steel, I need more information on it. It sounds hilarious
specifically, what did he do to the woman at the church?
@@askquestions1236thank God! Glad they were ok.
Be carefull of what you wish for, half of the population is trying to get into a relationship and the other half is trying to get out of one
Ain’t that the truth
😂😂😂
That’s hilarious! But…true!
Absolute Gold!!! 😂😭😂
Oh no. Don't throw everyone into two different groups. Some of us are happily single.
I've gone through the same things he has since I graduated high school way back in 1984.
Was in two dangerous and narcisstic relationships with two women, the first one lasted ten years, where she weaponized her adult criminal grandson against me to get my disability money.
After nearly being killed seven years ago, I finally came to realize that with my disabilities, and lack of ability to support a wife and family, it isnt God's will for me.
I never thought to hurt anyone as this guy did. I'm nearly 60 now, and if it happens, it happens. It's no longer a priority in my life. I have hobbies, and interests. Contrary to popular beliefs, sometimes there isn't always "someone for everyone" and that's life.
I see you're a white man.. Why don't white men who experience loneliness, go to Asia to find love? Are you guys aware that in countries like the Philippines or Thailand, women are crazy about white men? Now, of course, some of those women are probably gold diggers, but many of them are also decent women.
You can travel to some south east Asia and find a good woman there 😊
I'm so glad you're getting out and enjoying life. Being single shouldn't stop you enjoying your life and the world. Being bitter and alone is a GUARANTEED way to NEVER find a partner. Being happy content and single is the most attractive quality. I'm also disabled and feel how you have, I was diagnosed with ms at 18 and in a wheelchair by 20 unfortunately. Being disabled really destroys your confidence in dating. Because we feel unworthy we tend to pick abusive partners because we believe it's them and their abusive ways or nobody. It's not. Get out there and enjoy your hobby's and hopefully you'll find each other. I know a few guys who finally found happiness at your age or older. Keep being awesome and thank you for your comment 🙏❤️🙏
@@jungk0081 that would be moot. He wants connection and it to be meaningful. Not some 30 day Fiancee type deal.
It's actually more pathetic doing that than coming to terms with being alone
@cris-rj5zf I said a good woman lol not some gold diggers 😂
This guy REALLY needed to get a dog. It is amazing what the unconditional love of a dog can do to help your mental state.
Good point!
Dogs don't love you they're just driven by food
Dogs don’t replace human interactions
This guy maybe could have really benefitted from an AI Doll, they would reflect his thoughts only and put out what he wanted. Whats not to love?.
@@venicec3310 dog nutters are the most delusional people I've ever encountered
Dr Grande, please could you look at the case of Noah Donohoe? He was an intelligent 14 year old boy who set off on a seemingly normal bike ride but possibly had some kind of mental break as he gradually stripped off his clothes and was eventually found deceased in a storm drain. It's honestly one of the most bizarre cases I've ever heard of.
Really tragic case and wasn't properly investigated by the police. 😢
No drugs involved?
@@swiatlowiekuiste Not according to autopsy and toxicology reports.
A very strange case. I was on holiday in Belfast not long afterwards and there were lots of 'Justice For Noah' banners across the city. Something really stinks in this case. The police investigation was either totally inept or deliberately mishandled.
What… oh my gosh… what was the cause of death?
Edit: ok so he drowned. And his mom had him cremated bc he was scared of the dark. Absolutely heartbreaking.
I got curious and did the math. If you live for 100 years, and deduct 8 hours a day for sleep, and assuming the rejections start at 18, you'd be getting rejected every 28.4116 seconds of your waking life for 82 years. That would be pretty upsetting for anyone.
This made me laugh so loudly. I appreciate you doing the math.
George was not just looking for a woman to be a romantic partner. He was looking for a woman who was substantially younger, and thus less experienced and knowledgeable about life in general. People, even young women, understand when someone is out to manipulate them. He could have found a romantic partner in a woman closer to his own age. It was his emotional immaturity that prevented him from being able to develop a relationship.
The sense of entitlement that he could attract a partner half his age!
A part from the fact that he was was probably only interested in getting hot women, that's a problem right there, for anybody.
He didn't have experiences with younger women and hence why he was looking for them. He didn't have experiences with much of anybody, if he was telling the truth. According to the news and his neighbors, he rarely left the house and didn't talk to anybody when he did.
Leo Dicaprio seems to have no problem with getting younger women lol
@@shebakali6 "Women don't owe you anything" is a common anti-social, social Darwinist, incelerationist utterance used by neoliberal feminists in response to incels pointing out that women are less sexually generous than men.
Given everyone knows no one is entitled to sex, a person who says "Women don't owe you anything" is usually saying three things:
1. I have no genuine intention to help shy or ugly men get laid
2. Society has no genuine intention to help shy or ugly men get laid
3. And this is just
Incels already know society does not want to help them, so the phrase feels like rubbing the problem in incels' faces. Someone proclaiming their unwillingness to help feels bad in general.
Moreover, this is essentially hypocritical because most feminists will insist that society provide for any want or need that women have. Some examples include free emotional labor from doctors/therapists, free housing, free food, free transportation, undeserved hiring and promotion, protection when walking around at 2 A.M., and so on.
Incel: 'Once online dating become ubiquitous, less than 20% of men will have a partner.'
Feminist: 'Women don't owe you anything.'
(This exchange happens a lot between self-described incels and feminists.)
Implied meaning from feminist in that context: 'In that situation 80%+ of the men would be unworthy of women, and that would be just.'
I remember a friend of mine who in his forties was angered by rejection by twenty-year-old musicians and artists. He wanted a traditional wife to bear his children and keep house for him, and developed a belief that young women were stupid and immoral for not leaping at this "prime opportunity" to marry him. He was bright and ran a record label, which he felt ought to make up for his lack of physical handsomeness, and also gave him a way to interact with exciting young women playing in bands.
When I suggested instead of music clubs, he look elsewhere for women closer to his own age, who might want the same things he did, he became extremely angry and insulted at the whole idea he would "settle for a dog". ONLY the most attractive, creative, and especially YOUNG women counted as possibilities even into his fifties, at which time he became angry at me as well and cut off contact. I have been half-expecting him to poison an entire bar of music fans at some point as revenge for his ill-considered expectations' failure.
Dating woman in 40s ain't worth it, but hey I am 22 so who cares lol
There are some very unattractive women in their 50s who think they are entitled to the same things that women in their 20s expect. If you were a man who spent years accumulating the qualities that women expect, why would you want to give those things you exhausted yourself for to an aging, physically unattractive woman?
Lol your suggestion to date old ladies is not that great, they are even more pickier
40 y.o. women wanting to have children is kind of late.
Men in their 40's expecting 20 y.o. artists to drop everything and become their trad wife are delusional. Just because you are physically capable of impregnating a woman, doesn't mean it can't be too late to start a family. Find someone your own age and adopt, if it's that important.
Women were not attracted to George because they sensed that he didn't like them. His hatred repelled others.
How have you come that conclusion?
@eadweard. , Dr. Grande said that George blamed others for his inability to attract women. It seems that he never looked at himself internally to see why women avoided him.
Exactly. Someone who would consider what he did as even an option should not even be in society.
@@yolipurpleflower9895none of what you wrote means he hated anyone , that’s some next level reaching
@@tylerberg4832how about the mass shooting? You’re literally watching the video dude that spells out he hated women. Freaking incels man
The grainy video of that lonely bland house and furnishings, is in effect, extremely eerie. Sad, but so frightening too.
Somehow I have a feeling that if a woman ended up with him they would be in danger, because if George found out that all his problems weren't actually fixed once he had a partner, he would have to conclude there is something is wrong with his partner.
Oh ! 100%.
Great point
@@Filthy_Larry you are right , but in this particular video we are talking about unhinged incel. He is delusional. He would find problems in others but won’t look in himself.
@@Filthy_Larry are you childfree?
I know your feeling is 💯 correct. He needed therapy and mental health treatment - he was seriously mentally ill. Those types of people are horrible in romantic relationships.
There is a huge incel problem growing in our society.
And part of it is the constant attacks on men/ the patriarchy/white men are all racist/ snarky attitudes towards those outside your group/ the American psychology that you are entitled to have everything you want; and the American culture that it is cool to be snarky; especially to those who you reject as not in a group your psychology exclude or get triggered by.
I know of a case where a woman brought her kid to a swimming pool; she laid down to sunbathe and the little girl jumped in and went to the bottom; an older man jumped in and brought the kid up; who was then crying and clinging to, and hugging the man; the mom heard the crying and started yelling at the man; other woman ( none who had been paying attention); joined in.
I witnessed it; and my views were dismissed until security camera footage showed it exactly as stated.
The mom; nor any of the women apologized to the man.
And I don't think anyone is surprised by that. Fifty years ago he would have been a community hero; and everyone would have been getting on the mom's case for not watching her kid; especially one that doesn't know how to swim.
@@craigbritton1089 You make a number of valid and overlooked points. I have often wondered where all these angry people come from whenever there is another mass shooting somewhere. Well, our good ol' controlled media does nothing to discourage this trend. Not only does it thrive on fast, sensational ratings, but it has been open season on men and especially white males for decades. They are the only group who can be legally discriminated against via the process known as Affirmative Action.
Nowadays, only women or men of certain ethnicities can be recognized as folk heroes.
@@craigbritton1089 yup. Man would have been better off doing nothing, at least then those harpies would have learned a valuable lesson.
@@craigbritton1089 Thats a thing with women. They attack in groups. They even attack women who are being attacked by a man. Like a 14 year old girl had a guy at school make fake nudes of her and spread them around. The girl said they other girls got mad at her. WHY? They should be protecting her not attacking her. I think this is a major problem in society today. I even heard that the Uvalde shooter was being bullied and had many other problems and went to the school to pay the women back for the bullying.
@@craigbritton1089cool story bro 👍🏼
Women must've sensed that there was something wrong with him in order to get rejected many times.
Intuition was strong
I think its more like 5-10 women rejected him and instead of trying 29,999,980 more times, he threw in the hat and called it a wrap.
Definitely.
He were nearly 50 and wanted women in their 20s and 30s . No wonder he didn't get a date. Young women usually don't want an old man.
@@Wilda295old?!!!
Men making women feel creeped out, then proceeding to confirm that they are every bit as or even more creepy than women felt they were. Women have this 6th sense for survival reasons.
Bundy used false pretenses and the only victim to escape him was creeped out, but he posed as a policeman using authority to “help” her with her broken into car, so yes, although they are forever silenced, I am sure a good number of those victims were creeped out, but they can’t tell us because they didn’t listen to that voice in their head that society had trained them to ignore as “female hysteria” and are dead because of it.
The comments on this video just confirm that most women should remain single.
But it doesn't always work all that well - judging from the HUGE numbers of women who end up in abusive relationships/marriages and/or experience gender-based violence of all sorts... 🤷♂️
As someone on the autism spectrum, it’s hard for me to feel sorry for him. I have always had trouble dating or attracting men but I never felt compelled to kill them. Maybe if he had stopped putting himself on a pedestal like Elliot Rogers and got mental health and therapy his life would have gone differently. Unfortunately with narcissism it’s everyone else’s fault.
What, are you like 90 yo?
What do you mean, you couldnt attract men?
It's like saying that you cant atract a dog with meat.
Men are not picky.
There are a bunch of guys begging to have a relationship.
All you have to do is be available.
@@bestdjaf7499She’s autistic. Don’t be simple minded. She should honestly, join one of those autistic dating websites.
@@bestdjaf7499No men are easy to have sex with not to date. Big difference
@@bestdjaf7499 not reality. everybody gets rejected, nobody will date just anybody, and being on the autism spectrum leads to all sorts of social disconnections that affect all kinds of relationships, or prevent relationships from starting
@@bestdjaf7499 😔 I've also had great difficulty. They just dont approach me, but I have weird habbits like I talk to myself out loud and stim by head banging 🤷♂️ I think it naturally just makes people uncomfortable,also I look very young like 12-15 and as it turns out men aren't actually pedophiles so no help there either 😭😭😭
So happy to hear the word NARCISSIST at the end of your assessment. I was thinking when you mentioned his inability to FEEL or EMPATHIZE he was definitely a NARCISSIST! I don't recall this murderer in the news, but am saddened that he murdered others but glad he is no longer among the living!
No one is entitled to sex with anyone, at any time. Welcome to life.
Well said.
Right, except for sexual services. Welcome to capitalism ;)
But women are entitled to have children no matter how incompetent they are at that; and most men's sex drive is stronger than a woman's drive to have children.
This doesn't mean a man is entitled to sex or a woman's attention. But maybe it is a reason to legalize sex work; and to get rid of the cultural psychology that we are all entitled to whatever we want.
@@charlescole645Uber eats getting real interesting now
Women choose whom they have sex with and how frequently. Men choose whom they marry. ❤
Love 💘 all your videos and in-depth analysis
Women can sense a guy’s oddity. They may never be able to see it in themselves but it is loud and clear to others. The world is full of these types.
Guys like to believe they are great. Doesn't matter how many people want to avoid them, they're narcissistic, entitled, and resentful that others won't validate their delusions.
I wish......just a wish forgive me.....that for the oddity guys there was a decent amount of women for them ......The herd mentally of 80 percent of women for 10 percent of guys is unfortunate but it is what it is but one can still wish.......
Very true. I am glad we have intuition and emotional intelligence to spot these creeps.
thats what makes half of us odd ones odd.
its like an interview where they're scanning for you nervousness.
want to know the ones who never feel nervous ... psychopaths.
Yes, a predator
Why do we think we are entitled to a romantic partner? Many people never find the right person. Validation comes from inside, not elsewhere.
I was thinking that too. People can be really sad from not getting partners. It’s happened since the dawn of time no doubt. But the entitlement-I’m ‘owed’ something- thats where the trouble is
Because men have a self destruct button deep within them without a partner. It's biology.
thank you for keeping it gender neutral. a lot of people write similar statements for men only
Because mentally-ill men see ejaculating inside a woman as proof they are manly men. The vagina is just an obstacle course to them getting respect from the boys. Good thing they’re out of the gene pool.
Women are the ones going around making tiktoks crying about not finding the right man and blaming it on men being to intimidated.
I’m reminded of The Doors song “People Are Strange “: “women seem wicked, when you’re unwanted.” I often wonder if there is inherent misogyny that women can sense in these incels that is keeping them single.
Bingo... we can sense the hate...
female hypergamous nature makes them more attracted to ''popular ''males who are unavailable or who had multiple ex partners. The longer a male is ''single'' the less desirable they are. Women that are attracted to prisoners are a whole other topic however.
@@gold707786Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. We can sense your hatred. But that's probably not 'scientific' enough for you.
My older brother has never had a girlfriend. He is a complete gentleman regardless. Wonderful man
Yes, when you're in a conversation with someone who views you as subhuman it is readily apparent and bleeds through in every word.
Didn’t that same seminar say women over thirty were bitter and not worth pursuing? 3:53 I saw tht in another documentary on Dreading.
He doesn't seem like much of an incel if he's had sex 57 times. Compared to me he's like Tom Cruise.
lol.
I'm a virgin. I'm nearly 30.
@@scifirealism5943Nothing wrong with that.
@@briskettacos I agree.
I feel sorry for you guys. I hope your lives turn around. Take care.
I can't imagine why no one wanted him. it can't be his charming self or his personality.
Oh shut up it’s all about looks
Deluded as fuck. Personality is a joke it’s all about looks
It was his self-pity and sense of entitlement that made him incompatible with too many people. The content on his blog reeked of mounting anger.
😂😂😂
I've always thought that ungrateful people are the most miserable. We forget what we have, health, arms and legs, speech, hearing and vision, etc. Instead, we focus on what we don't have. It's a recipe for disaster.
I agree. Greed and envy warp your perceptions.
That was a very good comment.
You been without the opposite sex for 50 years? Cool. Sit down, Mrs. Know-It-All
Your comment reminds me of a comic strip I'm having trouble finding. It was a comic strip of, if I remember correctly, one guy in a cheap car looking at a nice car, and he thinks, "Gee, I wish I had that car." Then there's a guy on a bike looking at the cheap car, and he's thinking, "Gee, I wish I had a car." Then there's a guy in a wheelchair looking at the guy on a bike, and he thinks to himself, "Gee, I wish I could bike."
Yeah I remember that. It randomly showed up in my Instagram fees a while ago
True fact: The word "Incel" was created by a woman named Alana (she doesn't disclose her last name) in the late 90's as a group where men and women who couldn't find dates or love could chat/talk about things.
Is this a trick question? You know what incel is short for yeah? It's very straightforward.
@@bennym5244 let me slow the original comment down for you.
This woman invented the term Incel. She combined those 2 words and attached that meaning to it.
How did you get so far from being an intelligent person. But still have the confidence to pretend you are?
@@bennym5244yes. The term incel, involuntary celibate, was coined by a woman in the 90s. That was their point.
i was kind of an incel but i wanted to b married, not fool around. women would rarely even give me their number and i was rejected countless times approaching women. i never felt like going on a rampage though. i was finally married in 96 after rarely dating for 10 years. still w the same woman through thick and thin; thank jesus.
I see this as a win for men and women who go through what you went through. That way you don't make to many soul ties, your mind spirit and body is less "tainted", and when you do find love; it's almost always genuine. Happy you found your person, may God bless your union 🥰.
@@stephanies9071i def c how having indulged in many partners makes it harder to stay committed monogamously. seems common 4 guys to b fearful of marriage no doubt mainly bc it represents committing to 1 partner he rest of ur life. i didnt have that fear. i understood monogamy w marriage under God is the only way love is possible.
@@sticksbass I agree 💯, You and your wife/family be blessed 💕🥰 .
To which "jesus" do you refer? Jesus Christ?
@@roseaduke8835 jesus gonzalez, my auto mechanic. great guy
What about women that don't have and can't find a man! I know women who were never married or had children! Do they mass kill men? WTH!
That would be me. No I never killed anyone or felt the need to. This guy sounds creepy and awkward. Probably had a mental issue or two...
Incels only want the women they deem to be sexy. They never seem interested in the ones who are regular
women, especially if they’re overweight.
I’m failing to see the point pertaining to the video. did you just want to point out that most mass shooters are men and its not fair that women don’t do it??
They only want Chad
@@poindextertunesMaybe someone wanted to just share their opinion without being super controversial. Sometimes people can POINT THINGS OUT without having an ulterior motive. She didnt say “its ok bc its women ☕️ “ she simply stated that plenty of women are incels and they dont murder.
Been through what he went through. I'm not like him in that way. I stopped caring, and trying. If anyone is stressing out about this, I advise finding other avenues. What this man did was not the answer. I drown myself in work and chillax on weekends. I go for long walks, bike rides, write, and draw. Travel. Anything constructive and beneficial to others is the best answer in dealing with personal problems.
How old are you?
@@gqas1247 49 years.
And if you get too antsy, you can always hire an escort 😛
@@ThouSwell-zx3fd just another waste of time and money.
@@flashgordo9485 what else am I supposed to do with extra money, in my case I own two rental property so I don't need more money at this point
You would think with 30 million women shooting at once at in a gym there would be some accidental cross fire . That seems like an excessive amount of people in a gym at one time. Plus , that's not counting the men
I knew a young guy, similar situation that also took his own life. He was just socially awkward and tried to hard.
I used to tell him to just get active in some kind of activity where he would meet people and he would ultimately meet someone.
He was his dads only son. Pretty sad situation.
Yeah very terrible advice that you gave to him
@@Anika9691
Yep, so the joke is on me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
i don't want that to happen to me.
@scifirealism5943
When I was young and dinosaurs roamed the flat earth I was extremely shy. And pretty awkward socially.
I was terrified at the prospect of approaching a girl and being rejected in front of God and everybody.
If not for peer pressure and a little bullying from my friends I would have never gotten over it.
okay.@@Cleatus546
I think it is ok to have compassion for George-but also realize that his entitlement made him dangerous and that your compassion would not be reciprocated from him. I wish there was a better way to catch on to people like this and give them mental health care before something like this happens. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.
He would have to except that, which I'm sure he would not.
The internet is full of entitled males that celebrate when an incels "teach women a lesson... I mean, to avoid males more" 🤮
I admit that I wanted the ladies to be more fair and give every guy at least a chance but that's not reality and thanks to Dr Albert Ellis Emotional Rational Therapy I don't struggle with this view anymore 🙏 Mental Health is definitely important now more than ever!
George could’ve spent a lot less time worrying about what he wasn’t getting and more time seeking out mental health care for himself.
I totally agree. I do think society puts an unreasonable amount of pressure on men to be perfect and find a perfect match, but most people look inward towards what is wrong with them instead of blaming others. I guess if this guy is a sociopath he cannot understand emotions and how important it is to communicate on an emotional level with people. I mean, did he have any close friends? That is usually a sign to watch out if a person has NO friends.
It's sad that the victims get overshadowed by the murderer. The innocent victims were killed b/c of someone's frustrations
I think it's even sadder when the murderer garners more sympathy than the people that were preyed upon by said murderer.
@@BlaximilianD00d I agree. People could care less about those that were killed, except the victims' friends and family. Today, the people who lost their lives are irrelevant and nobody cares. I have no idea who they are b/c it wasn't mentioned in the video - only the incel himself was talked about.
All of that wanting to give love was a lie, after all. Thank you, Dr. Grande.
(RIP to those who died).
I actually met this man. He was in a large social group I was in. Was pretty quiet but polite. Shocking and sad for those poor women. 😓
Dude's fine as fuck.
What was your experience with him? Other than being quiet and polite, what impression did he give you?
So what you’re saying is your could have dropped him a little neck and saved those women ? Joking of course but not of the dead.what impression did he give you ?
So he had a personality that tends to turn off women...This is interesting, considering that most men would love to find a woman who is quiet and polite! sounds like a perfect woman! Not to mention that this guy was also handworker, kept his house clean and organized, worked out... Man, I would love to find a woman with all those traits!
The "problem" with this guy is that he lacked humor skills, social skills, leadership skills, and many other things that women judge men on.
@@Dah42 Maybe he should have looked for a woman who also struggles with social skills?
It is so sad that a man has to be this lonely to the point of murder and suicide. They never look at themselves and their behaviors as being a turn off.
What is Woke Culture all about other than psychologically saying that tat everyone is a "Victim"; so it is no surprise that those whom The Woke accuse of being " The Oppressor"; feel like a victim: and when The Woke say you should be publicly angry if a white woman wears a sari; or whites own a restaurant that serves Asian food; why is anyone surprised when white men get angry over " micro aggressions" they think they suffer; and we all know angry white men with guns are more likely to shoot people; than loot stores; or demand someone lose their job; or seek therapy
It's always the fault of the other.
There are people far lonelier. He was evil and entitled. Loneliness is a feeling, how you respond to it shows what kind of person you are.
I constantly look how to improve myself and still dont get any answers from women at online dating. Your comment is just hate against men. There is an idiom: Dog, women and children are loved unconditionally but men are loved only under the condition that they provide. Because of that there are Passport Bros who go to Asia to find a women, because western women are full of hate against men.
@@me-ye6ld Exactly! It's a blind spot the size of Texas.
I'm always amazed that the manifesto-writing type expects women to see them as stable and not consumed by rage.
They think we can't sense when there is something creepy/off about them. The term "woman's intuition" exists for a reason
@@Redacted24-r2h Exactly.
@@Redacted24-r2h yea because women today make all the correct mating choices 🙄
@@James_36 I never said they do make all the correct mating choices. When women deny their gut-feeling, that's when they end up getting in bad situations. That doesn't take away from what I said.
@@Redacted24-r2hactually, a lot of them end up in bad situations specifically for FOLLOWING their gut feelings lmao
Im 48 never had a girlfriend or dated before i never even had any friends its crazy how life just passed me by so fast with out people
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You need to join a league
I dont mean to be insultung but I dont get how thats possible...
It’s not the peoples fault. It’s the same for many thousand women who just stay home in peace and love their family. No one is entitled to other souls. You go out and be kind and expect nothing and you will have friends and from there a lady who appreciates you even at your age. The word is kindness
48 jeez it gets that bad
There has to be a “no-shame” step support group for individuals that struggle with such loneliness.
Dude... no one gives a shit about lonely men, for real. It is the ugly truth of society. And if they say they care, it is only a ruse or grift. I've been a hermit for almost 10 years, only associating with family, and shit... even family doesn't really give a shit about men. It is just the way it is and will always be.
There are actually ones out there, but the problem seems to be that the only groups willing to offer these are far right groups like Tate. There needs to be healthier support groups that do a better job of this.
They wouldn’t accept women I assure you from experience.
Only makes it worse
These incentives men have other issues besides being socially awkward. There must be mental health issues at play to be so lacking in self awareness and to have such a sense of entitlement.
It's almost like attracting a partner takes more than just "me go gym" or "me have money".
If you have money, it’s actually not that hard.
@@michaelperez9966 confidence and social validation is more important than money. Money will just attract the wrong women without genuine connection
@@michaelperez9966 incel
@@dbased1915 Problem is people buy into that delusion and, in a sense, become intoxicated by it. In other words, it becomes their only understanding of reality.
There's a balance that must be had. A man with money will attract more of the gold-digging types. A man with no money will attract people with similar problems.
The best case I've seen is people who share the same profession and have met very early in their lives.
What does it actually take? Asking for a friend
I have a close family member who went through a nasty divorce about 15 years ago who simply can’t get over it. I have personally witnessed this person saying outrageous things just like this guy did. I worry about this sort of thing everyday
Have u tried reporting
reporting would do nothing, it's not like you can be taken to jail for saying or thinking bad words@@gqas1247
If you are afraid that they will hurt others, you can get welfare checks done on them by the police/ambulance. You can also look into getting an involuntary mental health assessment done - ask your GP or theirs if you can.
What a terrible man! He should just accept a society in which women can take everything from him in court without him having done anything wrong.
Women most affected.
The entitlement is real.
@@WannabeShady90the only one entitled are these foids.
He also waited until he was in his 50s and on top of that INSTEAD OF going after women in his own age range he went after women in their 20s and 30s.
And then expected those women to not find him a creepy old man.
Okay.
A reasonable expectation.
😂
exactly.
like... wtf?
If he were rich and famous and had a history of being a hearthrob like Leo Di Caprio, he wouldn't come across as creepy (though people do make fun of his dating "choices")! 🤣🤣🤣
Is being old with a considerably younger wife always "creepy"? If you have enough money, women will be drawn to you. On average, it's not really about age or looks for women - the science says it's just about access to resources. Anyone who has lived in or is familiar with culture outside of the West would see this.
Need more info but I could believe he was popular from high school to college hence he slept with women until then. Somewhere along the lines odd things happened and made him act quiet and polite around new circles.
I highly doubt he couldn’t have found at least 1 woman who wanted to date him, the fact that he went after women so much younger than him usually means he thinks women his age are “unattractive” (because they won’t just do whatever you say or be intimidated easily) therefore cutting out a great portion of the options available to him. More often than not the kind of guys who go for much younger partners are controlling, have a temper, and have a lack of self-control.
Two women wanted to date me, one of them wanted to have sex with me.
However, I was too scared with one woman and too lazy with the other.
I'm a recluse.
Have you never thought that older women are uglier?
Well, just like most women judge men on height, in the same way, many men (not all men) want a woman younger than them.
If you believe that men who pursue younger women are 'controlling,' then one could argue that women who 'require' a man who is 1 foot taller than them have daddy issues."
You know how women tend to like men who are older because they are more established financially and more mature? Well.. men in general tend to like younger women because they're more feminine and fertile and men like agreeable women, older women tend to be less agreeable and more jaded, and tend to have more moula than the younger women which means she is harder to please and the man would need more money than her in order to be admired by her.
My life is worthless
😂 I was thinking serial killer vibes when you said that exact line... Putting a video of your house online the way he did was a little odd. People just need to be themselves and not try so hard. I believe there is always someone for everyone. Great analysis as always, Dr. grande. ❤
Vicious loop, no one is their to correct your thinking when you are alone.
And maybe don't include the basement 😳
@@MrSdsok Exactly.
It's a nice sentiment, but I don't necessarily think there's always someone out there for everyone. At least that's what I think as a mindset. If someone thinks they deserve somebody or that there is always somebody is out there there ready for them, then it may generate entitlement issues.
@@MrSdsok
Just because you've got people around you it's not their responsibility to correct our thinking.
It's the individuals own responsibility to refine their own emotional intelligence.
Someone who would act like this should not be puzzled about why girls don’t like them.
She wont@JucktheFews
No, you’re saying he was like this from the start. That isn’t true. His behaviors grew out of frustration due to his autistic like inability to understand how to be social.
Blame feminism for some of this. Feminism has caused a lot of trouble.
Why? He can help his face and height!
@@jcransome5616He wasn't that bad looking, though, and he was 5'10"! I know WAY worse looking dudes who are happily attached/married. It's all about the personality, in this case.
One of the many reasons I have a home gym.
Serious or trolling?
These types of men have very very high expectations with women. He's basically looking for the perfect 10 and has convinced himself that that is what he needs and what he should have.
Exactly
Completely detached from reality. They all encourage each other to think like this too. It's a self-reinforcing group delusion.
There’s a guy at my work that just rage quit and he admitted to having a problem with women and I’m actually concerned that he’s going to come back in with a pow pow.
Just date him
Stay vigilant !
I hope your HR department is aware. Might need to involve authorities.
@@Justin-yt7pi😅
It sounds concerning. See if he had any friends at work, maybe someone could talk with him. I think most killers feel alone in the world and that no one cares about them.
Just speaking for myself, but hating me and my entire gender is a turn off. 😬
Agreed. How do they not understand this?
According to the news story back then, this guy didn't even really go around women. He sat in the house all day and only left the house to go to work and back, without talking to anyone.
I think he hated himself and just didn't know it
@TheGuyBroNintySixwho know how to care about human rights? 🧐
100%. I have been hurt and done wrong by men and am single by choice but I adore men. Would never "hate all men" bc of the rotten few.
This is why you need to work on yourself first. Sometimes you just need to talk to someone. You don't have to go through your problems alone.
Even in the olden days, with no therapy. People who didn't know how to deal with their problems, worked on something positive. Like a job. They gave themselves the opportunity to meet people from all walks of life, and form relationships that changed their perspective on life and themselves.
It can happen for you too, if you work at it.
"Those who reject change are architects of decay."
i just need to lose my virginity.
Ok
He was a decent looking guy (nice face, square jaw, in shape etc) so his personality must’ve been truly insufferable if he kept getting rejected. I also have to note that the parallels between him and Classic Chris Chan are glaring (Love Quest, house tour, hating boyfriends etc.).
juuuulllaaaaaaaayyyyyyy
The 20:80 ratio
Now ask the girls what they rate him and there you will find your problem. Today they will rate him a 3/10. This is the issue. Women have become narcissistically deluded.
Maybe he didn't floss.
And thus, he proved all the women who rejected him were absolutely right and dodged a massive bullet.
Not all the women
@@NoHurriesNoWorries Yes, all the women
@@nukeputin420 it was a joke
Exactly.
If he was rich he would have needed to fight them off. Women are smart. They know the romance wears off but the moola remains. The moola!
We appreciate your insights, Dr Grande. We will always support you.
I won't always.
Sounds like a cult
Every video Dr. Grande films makes me laugh out loud at least once. I love his deadpan comments.
Thank you for the great presentation! As a psychotherapist, I say, yes, definitely an inflated ego/narcissism going on here, but in my humble opinion, it also screams Neurodivergence. If unchecked by psychotherapy, a support system, etc., then Aspergers plus a "dark triad" personality constellation (especially low or no empathy, low conscience) spells disaster for others. If it was Aspergers alone, he may have still given up all hope and completed suicide, tragically. It is the Narcissism that spells doom for the people he encountered. I love your videos! Keep 'em coming.
I also thought of him being neurodivergent. It's very hard, but people can *learn* to be more social with practice and therapy. I'm not the most outgoing person but I'm much better at socializing (for short periods) than I ever used to be. I don't think - I really hope, anyway - that I'm not a narcissist. Since I have never had the desire to hurt anyone else, and I have complete aversion to any sort of confrontation, I hope that's a good sign. I've contemplated suicide, but never homicide. Anyway, thanks for your insightful assessment!
@jooleebilly if you ever consider suicide, please call someone you trust for help! We all have times when we have dark thoughts but you must realize then that you need help. Surround yourself with a support system, You are Not Alone.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@jooleebillyYou're not a narcissist. A true narc never stops and ask themselves these questions. Its common for us to feel like a narc when we are prone to people pleasing and conflict avoidant, as you put it.
Because its a survival instinct, and ultimately is driven by the preservation of self. This is however not narcissistic.
This feeling is rather common among neurodivergent people, Im ADHD (not diagnosed but I have read up on it for years and I strongly suspect it)
I tend to hate conflict and im basically a pathological people pleaser, and in a sense wanting to please everyone around you means you sometimes have to be dishonest about your own feelings and sometimes have to lie. But Its not something we are stuck with forever we just have to find our own strength first
Is 'Neurodivergence'' a university buzz word'' ?
@@gold707786code for ret@rd
Would these people go into a job interview being a jerk & expect to get a job? If you want dates, you have to behave properly.
He never left the house according to his neighbors, or talked to anybody.
@traybern I guess he thought they would just show up at his doorstep and do all the talking.
One guy took hostages at a place that wasn't gonna hire him. All it got him was killed by a swat sniper.
Blame feminism for some of this. Feminism has caused a lot of trouble.
Actually yes, these type of people would go into a job interview unqualified looking like a soup sandwich and being a creep and a jerk at the same time and then cry about not getting the job! I have known quite a few quys and gals like this. It seems like some of the younger generation automatically think this way! They are entitled to anything the believe they deserve!
It is really really sad that so many lonely dudes never bother to see women as individuals or understand what they really want. "I've got money, I'm handsome, and my couches match...now deliver the goods or else!" Gosh.
Right on.
That's like being a business owner and being angry at the public for not buying your garbage product or service.
It's like being really short and never getting a chance to be in the nba because of things you don't have control of. women are terrible
@@gregtederd5452lmfao nobody is terrible because they don’t want you. grow up incel. there is CLEARLY a reason.
this is an awful analogy. You can change or make a new product, you cant change your face without invasive expensive surgeries which have a high chance of making you look worse.
@@greenblossom019It's not your face. GET OFF THE INTERNET. SEEK THERAPY.
@@gregtederd5452 yikes, ladies watch out for this one!
Likely his greatest deficit was his inability to see women as actual people. People with value greater than their outward appearance. His superficiality made him interested in a very small percentage of the population; and his lack of good values made him undesirable to everyone.
I’d argue that men who see women as objects and trophies to be conquered are sexually more successful.
Bullshit it was to do with his looks
@@georgemoore-wg5jjstop being a simp you don’t even know this person, where they live or if they’re even female…
Well said 😉
I highly doubt a thousand women, let alone thirty million women, even knew who he was.
Like he was sitting there with a calculator, calculating the "millions" of women he's been rejected by
@@Redacted24-r2hof course he wasn't sitting anywhere. He didn't have time to do that. It would have taken him 130 days at 1 second per rejection for 24 hour periods for him to reach that number. If we give him time for sleep and to get ready, and eat, presumably he immediately ran from woman to woman for a period of about 10 years straight. He didn't even give them time to say yes.
@@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366 🤣😭🤣
i have been rejected thousands of times.
@@scifirealism5943 well did you give them time to even say yes?
A man who acts like a victim is one of the biggest turn-offs ever.
Amen sister I’m married to one😣
Because In a relationship women want to play that role
You love it
It seems to me that he could attract someone, she'd be as wacko as he but, hey, whatever works!
Women who are over the hill love to say stuff like this
I admit I laughed at the delusional idea that all people have sex three times a day, like they don’t have work or other responsibilities that don’t leave one drained of sexual drive. But it’s still scary how someone’s unchecked beliefs and behaviors can lead to tragedies like these. 😔
Porn thy need to take it down
It's not delusional for me. Me and my wife have sex 3x a day at least 3 days a week. We do it at least once a day. I can't even remember the last time we didn't have sex.🤷♂️
@@Jeff-sp7bgcap
@Thebeastisabeauty Nobody, especially you, aren't getting it 3 times a fuckin day !!!! It will drain your energy.
Dr. Todd Grande has seamlessly combined psychology and entertainment to create videos that are both logical and informative in a well-balanced manner. There is no other channel of this kind that I watch with such pleasure. Great work!
Dr. Grande has distastefully combined reckless conjecture with sophomoric snarkiness, often at the expense of the mentally ill. It is a huge disservice to them and to the professionals who treat them. If you really enjoy his content then I suggest you check out Katy Morton as she is even more immature and an even bigger disgrace to the field of mental health which will probably tickle your funny bone even better.
I remember this case when it occurred. It became the forerunner what is known as today's incel population. Elliot Rodger, Dylann Roof, Robert Aaron, and James Jackson etc added to that list.
Roof wasn’t an incel as far as I can tell. His shooting was racially motivated.
You forgot Adam Lanza, Nicolas Cruz and the Uvalde Shooter.
Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were both by modern definition, incels.
@@angryox3102 He (Roof), who targeted the parishioners figuring they were easier targets by likely being unarmed, mentioned his anger at interracial sex as Sodini did in his writings.
Jake Davison and Alek Minassian too.
Why do people like this always feel like to have to take other people out before they end themselves? Why do they feel like they're entitled enough to punish people for their imaginary wrongs in their head?
You know the answers, right?
Because they don't know that the wrongs in their head are imaginary, they think they're real.
@@RPKGameVids because they think they’re wronged and want their perceived justice to be restored.
The proper fix is to listen to them and try to address their concerns if possible.
For instance, the dude had problems dating. Maybe he could be a great dad but he wasn’t exposed to women who like him? Maybe some offline dating club for awkward people could help here? Or something else?
It’s always easier to blame others instead of offering any solutions.
People like this vary rarely feel the need to hurt other people. Men commit suicide at 4 times the rate of women. Most men just bare the pain or they take it out on themselves. These guys just get all the attention because there the extreme exceptions. The problem is that for all of the other guys like me who just bare the pain we also have to deal with millions of people conflating us with murderers and dismissing our suffering as "entitlement" just so they can hate on an actual murderer like this.
Because in all reality he has the free will to do it and some people are just brought to the brink weather because of bullying or feeling lonely some people just are on the brink.
😂🎉🎉
Cereal 🥣 killer basement tour…
Oh man Doctor you had me, Trippin, bro, I had to listen to that three times. That was actually a bit of levity that I didn’t expect. Nicely done.
A lot of people in that community seem to think the term "creepy" is unfounded or merely a shallow response to ugliness. Most often those people fail to understand creepy behaviors are about intent.
When a woman is approached by a sincere person, they know he wants to get to know her and it might lead to a romantic encounter. When a creepy guy approaches a woman, it's pretty clear his intent starts with an expectation of romance and he will say anything to get there. It's putting the cart before the horse that turns so many people off.
Another thing that scares us women, whenever I hear an incel is envious of all the "chads" who behave badly and still get girls, all I hear is "I don't have enough pretty privilege to treat women like crap". So yeah bud, women don't appreciate it when you generalize an entire gender because you see toxic couples sometimes.
Well said!
Yes
Women aren't a hive mind. Some use the term creepy unfairly and some don't. I have met some really sadistic nutjobs. I have also met some awesome ones and am with one. They aren't any better or worse than guys.
It's also interesting they never shoot the "chad's", always the women. Yet he must have been boiling inside everytime he saw women responding to chad's.
I also notice Creepy is used just to judge men they don't even know. I've been called that by a few ladies all for just "asking them out". But I never took offense, it only told me that she is the hateful one and has never aged her way out of high school.
No such thing as a incel just a entitled person who dosnt like there romantic options. Your not entitled to date people out of your league.
Its their, not there. How hard can it be? 🤣
Also ppl who just refuse to go out of the box when socializing, waiting for someone to essentially just fall in their arms the way they want. Not realistic.
@@richardsilden5683You had nothing else to add? Is he describing you buddy? The deflection is almost supernatural. 😂
@@richardsilden5683it's not a paper being graded. Not any reward for getting it right in a youtube comment section. Any thing it's even more pointless to point it out because you have contributed nothing to what they said.
Entitled? Also do a spell check before posting or is that also being “entitled” 😂
People tend to overthink romance, at the end of the day you just have to be yourself and it's up to the world to accept you for who you are.. Just be content do your best and don't ever look at people as objects. Take it from a guy like myself, I'm an amputee and I've heard everything in the book, did that stop me from putting my best foot forward? Absolutely not everyone deserves love.
Nice cope. No one cares about you.
That's the problem in our present age *ENTITLEMENT.* EVERYONE DOES NOT DESERVE LOVE!!! YOU EARN IT BY EARNING SOMEONE'S TRUST AND PROVING YOUR WORTH: MEANING PROVING YOU ARE COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR POTENTIALS PARTNERS LIFE, GOALS, DREAMS, LIFESTYLE, VALUES, PHILOSOPHIES, MATURITY, HEALTH, INTEREST ETC. THAT'S WHY THERE'S AN LONELINESS PROBLEM PEOPLE ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH SO MANY PEOPLE AND ENTITLED!!!
Worthless boomer advice
Being alone is better than acquiring a headache.
The headache being...
@@mariposa6615 an unstable partner.
All the self un-aliving men say otherwise, lol. That's just your way of coping. Cope is a cope is a cope.
If only incels thought like that instead of feeling entitled to a woman’s body especially women that don’t want them
He didn't hate women, he hated his shortcomings and took it out on women
Blame feminism for some of this. Feminism has caused a lot of trouble.
Exactly
He didn't even see his shortcomings. He has no self awareness. What he hated was losing his delusions. The fact that he was of a certain age and still unable to start a family was threatening all of his delusions of grandeur. This was a narcissistic psychopath using a vulnerable facade, but still very much a narcissist with all the entitled grandiosity required to make a mass murderer.
@@L-K-Jellyfishcovert narc/ psychopath
No, he hated women because he viewed them as a resource he was "owed" access to irrespective of his actions.
We need to support pro social engagement training activities the way they did up until the early 60's. 😮💨
I agree. I think 20yrs of Internet has exacerbated the problem. People have lost the ability to interact socially.
Yes! So many could benefit..especially in this day and age of technology and post covid
I tried doing softball league... I just got jammed into a group of strangers who had no interest of getting to know me. One of their little crotch goblins keyed my car because no one was watching them, and I told myself I would never do that shit ever again.
@@CowToesSome people just aint worth it.
You got unlucky being placed with a bunch of assholes. Youre the better man for not falling to their level, which is what they want you to do
Thats a good idea. But would it fix a wound full of hatred as bad as this guy had? I don’t think so mate
I always feel that you hit the nail on the head when you analyze these individuals and I get a better understanding of the circumstances surrounding some of their actions, not all but the more I listen the better it is not to judge a book etc..etc. thank you🌹
I have been labeled as UGLY by women for 62 years and I haven’t killed anyone. As a matter of fact, the older I get, the HAPPIER I become. Yeah, it sucks being alone but, in general, I am doing fine (psychologically and financially).😊
Glad to hear that. Once my folks go, i'll have no more ties to the outside world. I've always been a loner who enjoys his own company, but I hope complete and utter loneliness doesn't prove too much for me to take.
I've seen plenty of men and women who look like Jabba the Hutt who are, somehow, able to find romance.
Yeah sure you are dude. Keep coping
Copium
I discovered after my divorce that I actually enjoy being alone (I’m female). My family and friends are enough. Weirdly though, some friends keep trying to talk me into dating. They say, don’t you feel lonely? I answer that I know plenty of married people who are lonely. Marriage is not a guarantee of rainbows and sparkles. It’s hard work.
I'm not an Incel in my mindset at all - but, I understand his frustration & sense of "nothing I do works" feeling. I just try to shrug my shoulders, keep going & try not to let it drag me down. But, it naturally does after 23-years of being single.
Hating women - let alone killing them, is horrific; that's the difference between 'true' Incels & Incels who don't blame anyone for their situation - it's just the way things are for some of us, unfortunately.
But he didn't do the one thing that would have very likely made the biggest difference: sticking with women who were closer to his own age. Instead he got it into his head that he deserved a much younger woman and he dismissed older women that would have probably been a good match for him.
I am sure you "deserve" a top tier man (rolls eyes) and anything else to you is "settling" @@emilyl6746
Maybe if you stop thinking of forming a genuine connection as a strategy that would 'work' or not work, you would have better luck.
This really goes to show that the way you carry and project yourself makes all the difference. There's an actor named Joel Kinnaman who could potentially look kinda goofy because he's thin, lanky, and has big ears. But he has a deep voice and carries himself very well and I gained a crush on him the moment I heard/saw him speak. This incel George was actually physically handsome but he must've been a real creep for him to be repelling women left and right. If he just had some inner confidence and charisma, his life could have gone in a totally different trajectory.
The women that rejected him had no doubt he was unstable, they can sense it
Dr Grande,
I want to thank you.
I'm a natural introvert. I have little need for people contact & prefer to spend my time helping animals & insects.
Your case studies show there's a pandemic of narcissism out there & my quiet life, away from humans, is the best choice 😊
Thank you for helping animals.🥰🥰🥰🥰.
I love that you help animals and insects. I'm an introvert too. I help animals if I can. I never want a partner ever. Nor friends. The friends I've had all used me and treated me bad. So I prefer to be alone.
I can not imagine being attracted to this guy when I was in my 20s or thirty's He is not a bad looking guy but he does give off a creepy vibe even in the picture Desperation turns everyone off It feels like a needy child and its a scary feeling in a grown man He wants mommy not a women of his own age and he is a Narc and NO ONE wants to be with a narcissist There was a lot going on with him and none of it healthy I am so sorry for the victims
Narcs are powerful, they manipulate others. Mummy boys are weak, they cannot manipulate others.
A person cannot be both at the same time, it’s impossible.
@@Filthy_Larrywhy would you make this comment? How do you know this person wasn’t looking in her 20s-30s? Why do you feel the need to post something so I mature and unattractive? Also how do you know she is looking for someone??? Are you stalking her social media or something??
He wants mommy? Not a woman his own age? Dont you mean he wants daughter? You dont sound like you know what youre talking about. Also, when woman say mommy, they are saying im only good as a hole and I wont actually love you. Not wife material at all. Belong to the streets.
@luisruiz7729 dude... if they didn't want you then why would the same 20 year olds give you a chance now that you're older, creepier and even more bitter. Make it make sense.
@@dangerzzzone2925 I know africans have lower eye cue. But, come on, this is sad.
Sometimes relationships are overrated. All you need in life is good coffee ☕ great movies 🎥 a beginning stand up career to humiliate yourself and little mini trips along the way. And t.v. 😊😊😊😊😊
But it usually takes personal experience (in the form of previous relationships/experience) to realize this, sad to say!
Dr. Grande, it’s scary as a woman to put up with the wrath of a guy because you don’t want to pursue a romantic relationship with him. I dealt with this a lot in my youth. It is incredibly common and a real problem for all involved. Many men let resentment build, and many woman are afraid to even smile at a guy for fear he’ll be instantly enamoured. I had one guy writing me a love letter and when I gave the “we can be friends” talk his resentment was palpable… for decades! Ridiculous and very, very sad. I know it works both ways, that women get obsessed and/or harass men, too, it’s just less common. I wonder what the solution is. 😞
The solution is voluntary euthanasia. There are always going to be millions of men who aren't good enough for women, who are unwanted permanently because they weren't born good enough. How can anyone ever be happy knowing they are unwanted genetic dead-ends. That's almost a guarantee of su*c*de or worse, so just let us end it ourselves.
The solution is good parenting and how to treat/respect others
Thats why you shouldnt friend-zone a guy.Just be honest with them.
And remember "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"
@@animal79thecatWomen cant be up front. They constantly try to be a chameleon to seek everyone’s approval in case they need something from them. They are fake by nature
@@animal79thecatI cant remember who it was, but centuries ago was a philosopher that said similar. Nietzsche was one “Her art is the lie. Her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty.”
Hi Dr. Grande, good morning from Southern California. Excellent analysis. I love the way some people blame others for what is clearly their problem. Plus I hear a Violin in the background .
As always I learn something new from your videos.
I think there's no worse rejection than "self rejection". I've known some people who predict a bad outcome in almost everything before it even happens.... and of course the outcome is always negative.
I'm going to get laughed at for this, but i really believe that in the case of violent incels, pornography plays a huge role. (Note i said role. I'm not saying it's completely to blame and I'm not saying that everyone who looks at porn reacts to it the same way as an incel). Porn brainwashes young developing brains that women, in general, should be ready and willing to have sex at all times. That women exist for men's pleasure. That women are just horny constantly and ready to have sex if a man simply approaches. When real life doesn't operate this way, they can't understand why.
I don't see it referenced that he was an avid porn watcher. I believe the anti-porn stuff is hogwash. It doesn't have a big affect on people good or bad. Lot of hype. He had zero luck with ladies, a'lot of men don't. Don't need to invent an exotic explanation. 99% of these guys don't do mass shootings however.
I agree. There is an inability to read nuance and , perhaps, an inabiity to separate reality from fantasy, from what seems to get said. Women are supposed to be ready, willing, and subservient in every way. It's black and white, extreme thinking based on a faulty interpretation of the world and trying to reduce that thinking into a formula that works, which it can't
I do agree that it plays a role. There’s always some kind of disturbing aspect in p*rn videos.
Also, me and my friends won't date/marry a guy who watches porn. Men who regularly watch porn are losers.
@@Mint-kj9kw I guess the 30% of women who watch porn are losers too.
Also, it's gross when older men are only interested in younger women. Maybe if he tried finding someone his own age, he would have success.
lol
really lol? sounds like you live in a bubble.
Who the hell wants to date older women 🤮
I just read his blog. He had a lunch date with someone he met on the bus. Did he make plans for them to go out again? Also, at the very end, where he had notes; he stated he had a daughter in 1991 with (names person who was the sister of his highschool friend) but hasn't been in contact since "4 months in". Why didn't he search for them?