2012 Audi A6 versus BMW 535i review: And the best luxury sedan is...
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The new BMW 535i has almost always been the benchmark for all other mid-sized luxury sedans. But for 2012 the all new Audi A6 is taking direct aim at the BMW buyer as well as the 535i. The Audi brings to the table a 310 HP supercharged powerplant, an 8 speed automatic transmission and of course Quattro all-wheel-drive. But to not to be outdone the BMW has all of the same stuff but instead of a supercharged engine it comes with a turbo. So which one is the better car?
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Anyone who doesn't like Audi's just hasn't driven one ;)
Krondelo u couldn’t say it any better
yep
I drove Audis and i hate it, it drives like a Daewoo!
@Cory Scopis oh they're a bitch to maintain, just saying when everything actually works it drives great.
Audi is volkswagen LMAO trash car
BMW has more classy and more expensive look to me
Love these kind of shoot outs. I'm making an Audi convert out of my neighbor when I give him a ride to work in my S4 while his 5-series is in the shop.
I wonder if he gave you a ride when your water pump went out at 70k?😭😭
I don't pick a car based on "fact". I do so based on driving experience and the "chemistry". For that reason, I bought a BMW. It doesn't matter which technical aspect of Audi or Mercedes is how much superior. BMW clicks better for me.
@constv1 I was really impressed by the BMW's steering and handling, but you can't argue with physics and the BMW is just sooooo much heavier. Keep in mind that I've owned an M3 and a 525ix so I'm very familiar with both the car and the brand. We're not cheer leading for either BMW or Audi, but in this case the Audi is the better car in our opinion based on the criteria we established.
You guys did it wrong. The BMW has this thing where, when your stopped, the engine goes into idle mode to save gas. If you look below the start button there is a tiny button which turns this off. When it is off the engine is ready to go. My dad just bought a 535 so I know.
Yes! That is true! But, i guess he hated BMW's so he just said the Audi was better instead.
or, they just didnt know that
The Audi isn't even considered a competitor to the BMW in Europe. Its a badge engineered Skoda underneath. Still a competent car but dynamically inferior. The new A6 (are they even new when it's just headlights that are changed?) is 150kg heavier than the rear wheel drive 5 series. It makes no sense
@@davecom3bmw looks a lot better I’m still getting the 535i
i drove a 5 series and a a6 i if you ask me i chose the a6 at every occasion
Shum e mir autia ahahhahsh
Ata yılmaz say honest
Mee to
Until you try and take a corner
@@graydeanj it was a quattro so i would take the corners faster on the a6
the comparison of the bmw looking like a 3 series is wrong. looks alot more like a 7 series.. -.-
You wish it really doesn’t
Same thing different size
bloated 3 series
BMW fans are sold by the advertising jingle "Ultimate Driving Machine," not by actual facts. S8 is the real ultimate machine....period.
Forget about these I rather have the real king of Germany: Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG 4matic
BMW is and was always the ultimate driving machine, They dominated Audi and Mercedes in sales and everything else no question. There was an article that was released two days ago and here what is says-
Global leader in its executive car segment Since its launch in 1972, the BMW 5 Series has been the undisputed global leader in the executive car segment.
Throughout its successful 42 years, the BMW 5 Series has acquired more than 72 international awards including: Germany's Favourite Car and Car of the Year from the UK, Bulgaria, Mexico, Thailand and New Zealand, USA's 2010 GOOD DESIGN Award, the Red Dot award, the iF Product Design Award, the Design Prize of the Federal Republic of Germany, the Design Award from the Auto Bild, the Design Trophy from the Auto Zeitung magazine and a multitude of other awards on different continents that continue to reaffirm the global popularity of the BMW 5 Series.
www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2014/05/14/7828872.htm
Yeah but that's in the past, now in the present they did a head to head match of BMW M5 competition package vs the Mercedes E63 AMG sport package(forgot actual sport package name) and the Mercedes won. You can see yourself in the Motor Trend channel. For any car brand it's just a matter of time before Mercedes will beat it, sorry man Mercedes invented the automobile.
juan tafoya I know I saw the video sometime ago but here is the spec sheet for the 2013 BMW M5(non performance package) vs 2014 Mercedes e63 s model,The spec sheet speaks for itself. www.automobile-catalog.com/auta_cmp2.php
2013 BMW M5 (non performance package)
0 to 60 mph- 3.9 seconds when the Mercedes get 3.7 with awd
0 to 160 mph- 25.8 seconds
Quarter mile- 12.1 seconds @ 119mph
Weight- 4387 pounds
2014 Mercedes E63 AMG S model
0 to 60 mph- 3.7 seconds
0 to 160 mph- 26.5 seconds
Quarter mile- 12.1 seconds @117mph
Weight- 4431
The Mercedes has awd and more power/torque and barely beats the M5 that has rwd to 60. Like I said BMW has and will always be the ultimate driving machine period, if they added awd to the M5 it would demolish the Mercedes cause awd usually shreds a second of the time to 60 mph. The M5 beat the Mercedes to 160 mph when it has awd, more power and a good amount of torque.
O J there is no "if" , you're either the best or you're not. I can say "if" the e63 was lighter but "if" doesn't count. BMW is good theyre the best balanced cars in the world with perfect 50/50 weight distribution but Mercedes is notorious for torque and superior AMG engines they always outdo every brand.
Nose to tush drag race????. You know better than that. If two cars with identical acceleration profiles are having a drag race, then the first one off the line will always be going faster than the second one off the line and will be pulling away from the other forever. That's what happened here. Hence the acceleration test was bogus. BTW, I own an A6.
The 535i would have lost either way
Thanks for the kind words about the review. Both cars are good, but test drive the Audi when you get a chance.
@neptoon08 Thanks for the fun mashup idea. The original vs the copy. We like it.
LOL @ the bmw butt hurt fan boys. Im a fan of all of them. I noticed that in the early 90's benz was dominating, late 90's-mid 2000's bmw took over now its audi's time to shine and everyone is crying. I drove the 5 series and the A6 along with the 7 series and A8 and let me tell you... in MY opinion, audi was in fact better.
Sh Mo those arent holes... they are condoms that allow their users to fuck everyone that is stupid.
Can you give some plus and minus about the new 5 series? ( 2011 - ) im looking to buy one but im not that sure if to pick audi or bmw
Di3zell Honestly, dont take my advice or ANYONE elses. Your best solution is to test drive both of them. No specs or recommendation will make that choice for you. You must make the choice. Take them both out and see for your self. Both are really great cars, it would be foolish of me to say one is shitty and one is perfect. Plus test driving is always fun. It honestly depends on your taste.
My dad had the 7-series, before that the S-class and now my mom got the Q7 and he agrees that the audi is better than the other 2. But its an unequal comparison since 1 is an SUV and the other 2 are sedans
Di3zell Yep, you must perform a testdrive of both cars and see for yourself which one fits you and your driving style better. I love both BMW and Audi. For me, I was looking for a crossover, I testdrove both Q5 3.0T Premium Plus and X3 xDrive35i M-Sport. I choose the X3 because of its responsiveness to my steering input and off-the-line 0-60 in 5.5 seconds for a SUV/SAV. The Q5 wasn't far behind at 6.1 seconds 0-60 time. I still love both. If I have a bigger garage, I can purchase both.
Hahaha :) The Audi A6 totally won over the beamer here..
Michael Hansen Except when I drive to work, I'm not racing an A6, so I don't care.
+Michael Hansen yeah cause these tards dont know how to use launch control or realize that AWD beats RWD of a launch anytime
Dude bmw is way better Audi sucks balls the new bmw would kill a new Audi
Tune the 535i and say bye to the a6
@@MrMiskut their both awd... they have the xdrive bmw
@Superduperloopo Thanks for the thoughtful reply. We just get a bit tired of the same old cliches. And yes we know that these "drag races" are not by any means a scientific measure of acceleration. But please keep in mind that we're really just trying to entertain as much as review.
A couple questions. Since this is an Audi sports suspension, have you also driven the standard suspension for the same model? What was your opinion?
I'm wondering if you thought the sports suspension really beat you up during normal cruising? I test drove a 2014 A6 TDI and it was oh-so-smooth. I quickly got it up to 110 mph before backing off and didn't really feel much of anything with regard to road feel. If you want to feel like cruising in a limo, the standard suspension fits the bill. I'm just wondering how much response you feel with the sports suspension.
Audis are always just fast
Very well done car review, even though I'm a BMW fan. Entertaining, informative, and detailed (even the gear lever haha). In this particular case I have to begrudgingly agree that the A6 wins hands down
@yjzang TwinPower is what BMW calls it....just FYI.
Great job! Best video review from you in awhile. Had the right balance of technical data, subjective interpretations and humor. If anyone is cross-shopping these two cars right now, this would definitely help. Plus it's always good to know that a full-size body will fit in the trunk... just in case.
LOL I'm an Audi lover, but I can't believe they had to put that Supercharged logo in 6:58 just for the American market hahahaha
it works
7:21 Audi knows the A6 looks so good they display a picture of it while you drive it.
Great review guys. I like how in the beginning Nathan explained how the 5 series has been the benchmark to beat for years, and now now finally Audi came along and beat it. The A6, A7, and new A8 will put Audi on the map forever.
@pirochip That's odd...since BMW call their new turbos "twin" power. You may want to write BMW a letter and let them know they may a mistake as well.
just cut the trying hard comedian style it doesn't work period.
Have you watched our newer videos?
+The Fast Lane Car stfu
+john mikel somebody's angry
The Audi A6 is a bigger A4 which costs another £10,000
You could also say that its a jelly mould car in the sense that if there wasn`t any four rings you wouldn`t know what car company it was fro
I owned a 2009 BMW 535i and loved it but it had a few issues and I finally traded it in with 116K miles for a...2013 Audi A6. Both cars are great cars but the Audi is a better built car and I've enjoyed the Audi more. I bought both of them used - 3 years old and about 44,000ish miles. I took care of both the same way. I'm sticking to Audi's going forward (and maybe a Porsche).
I love your tests, it's really original and fun to watch! BTW this A6 is gorgeous...
Keep up the great work guys !
Did Audi pay you for the video?
Ernest T true
Why didn't you bring the 550xi at least. Or with m sport
RS6 isnt available in the US anyway
Thanks for sharing. Doing some comparison shopping and this really helps. I'm currently a 335i convertible owner but want a sedan w/o giving up the fun of driving. Now considering the A6.
@neptoon08 A6 vs Optima SX....that sound Crazy but cool. We'll try to see if we can make it happen
Opinions are just opinions, so if their thought is that the Audi is better, than that's their opinions. The 5 series, to this day in the US, still sells over 2 times as much as the A6, so I'm sure BMW isn't too worried.
Well yea that's bc they lease the car out for $450 a month. Anybody with a pulse and a $20,000 salary can afford a 5 series. They've sold themselves out and there is nothing special about BMW ownership anymore.
Scott Maurizi Yeah, everyone drives a 3-series and most people who have no knowledge of cars, will never notice the difference of a 5-series. There are way too many 3-series out there, and BMW is way too mainstream where I live. Reason why I wouldn't buy one.
In plus, Audi is the number-one selling Luxury/Premium automaker in the U.S, surpassing BMW every month since last February. So what does that tell you?
1820AL That the VW GROUP's scheme for absolute dominance is very real indeed. HOWEVER BMW is still the ONLY premium luxury independent brand in the world. THAT and the beautifully sporty styling is enough of a reason to buy the Beemer.
+ BM's got nicer steering feel,
+ Better MPG
+ Far superior elegantly simplified interior
+ BMW Apps far more advanced
+ iDrive system/NavSystem is superior in every respect
+ STYLING is far sportier/distinguished than AUDI's line of cars.
+ Far more reliable ( F10 5-Series came 2nd place reliability) national ranking.
atnstn Honestly, I don't find the styling of BMW to be on par with Audi. Heck, look at the dashboard of a 3-series! It's so basic and bland for a luxury car.
AUDI wins
missing 2 aspects in comparison I'm curious about. The comfort and cabin noise level. Which one is better?
you guys are amazing
i really enjoyed watching the video
keep up the good work
this BMW has to be launched properly to take off fast, if your at a standstill, you have to spool up the turbos to about 4000 rpm with left foot on the brake and release, it will take off like a rocket, im curently looking for an f10 535i with the manual transmission.
abelucious Glad someone said it! Although I believe you only need to take it to about 2500 rpm. Anyways just a stupid drag race over all comparing a supercharger to a turbocharger and not launching the turbo correctly.
abelucious In my A6, I just press the pedal to launch. That's it..
btw: I'm using my right foot for both pedals.. Breaking with your left foot and flooring it with you're right foot sounds like playing twister instead of racing. But that might be just me..
2Fast4Mellow Right and your A6 is supercharged. Read up on superchargers vs. turbochargers and you will get what we were talking about. The whole point of racing these is so you can kick someone's ass at a stoplight right? Well if that BMW gets to spool up its turbo (barely takes any time with their new very little turbo lagging engines) wouldn't you like to know if it will kick your ass? Your A6 has more power and would likely win btw but I'm just saying they did this "drag race" in a bad way.
Lucas Cruz So, you only race from standstill? So, wait complicated procedure do you have to follow if you're driving with a mate on a highway both at say 60mph and side by side and do a race who of the two has finished the next mile first? I just floor my pedal, the VCT gear will kick down and I will be 'launched'. I guess you have to shift down manually then in order to spool up the turbo? In other words where I can just press my pedal, you have to configure you're car for each and every 'race'. BTW Rotrex has supercharges for most BMW models. I think my A6 has less power than yours as I only have a 2.0TFSI 260HP (originally 211HP, but downtuned to 180HP by Audi on order to meat the emissions specs for energy class A) engine.. For me 'racing' is about escaping every days complicated routines. So while I can focus on the road ahead, while you also have to keep paying attention to you're revs..
2Fast4Mellow Uh put simply, no. Turbo lag nowadays especially with BMWs is very short. if you're cruising down the highway you might get a slight lead but your mate in the bmw is gonna destroy you after a second. The point I was making was in the video they did it at a standstill so you're gonna see a big gap in the cars if not launched correctly. Remember its driving cars a little difference in acceleration appears big. I said your car had more power cuz I just assumed your A6 was 3.0T but since it isn't, your car would be left in the dust by a 535 no question. Also, BMWs you can just hit the pedal and take off too it's not that complicated... again the turbo lag nowadays with their twinscroll turbochargers is very very short. Even with their single scrolls it is still minute.
I prefer the BMW bro, its much more nice in his design :-)
Agreed. I love both but I do think the BMW is better. I’ve been in both and I prefer them BMW
My (somewhat realistic) dream garage would be a 2012 Audi A6 and a BMW E92 M3
@constv1 That's why we didn't compare the 2012 Audi to a 2003 530i but instead a 2012 535i. Why don't you try test driving the 2012 BWM and than make a comment. Just saying...
This test is ridiculous... they getting pay by the Audi to do this? not even Audi's fan believe that bullshit....
Audi is sponsoring them for sure XD pls dont compare that bullshit to the BMW
Super comparison.....Thank you, gentlemen!!!
I just scored a 2014 A6 Prestige, 16,500 miles, immaculate. White with a gorgeous coffee brown interior. My neighbor was selling his Dad’s car. Omg. What an awesome car. These reviews make me even HAPPIER!!!!!!
Sorry mate, you're really off the line by starting the Audi comment by an VW news state.. Yes Volkswagen Group sells passenger cars under the Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Audi, Porsche, SEAT, Škoda and Volkswagen!
But you're describing an Audi like it's from a VW factory. Well it's NOT and that is a big different. Now i guess you probably know that, but some of us don't. Tomorrow somebody is going to say that an Audi is same as VW.....Or a Porsche is same as Seat!!! Commeee onnnnn a big minus there!!
AUDI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BMW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chump squad
Nope
chump squad Mercedes?
Each car has its own charm. I solved my dilemma by getting myself both an A6 and a 5 series. Both with 6 speed manual transmissions. Problem solved
Prinz Eugen no you didn't stop lying
you guys did a great job on the comparison. Nice work, I will subscribe. please make more videos.
We're paid the same amount by Audi that you are paid by BMW to make this comment.
in europe base price for audi is bigger
don't quit ur day jobs guys
Stop hatin bitch
Hey guys cool review, I have to say I really like how Audi positions their cars nowadays, sleek looking dash!
I have one remark though, you've shown us the fastest car from a complete stop to - whatever speed you were doing. Since the Audi you've tested has AWD, I'd like to see how they match up in 'overtaking', so an acceleration test from 40 mph-whatever.
@alexnitu888 We tested the U.S. version of both cars...you are using the European numbers.
Honestly...yes,audi are better..comfort,power,handling..audi wins
handling this is wrong :) they under-steer
It's not a race car,its a passenger car...why u need to have an oversteer on passengers car?
radost0514 Uh, and you think a BMW handles better? Audi has the best suspension, period.
Krondelo Lol hell no?:))
A BMW smokes an Audi
yes for every day car i think audi now look amazing i will take one for the look but for performance you can visit green-hell and you will see that the most popular brands are bmw;s and porsches.. i not a one brand fan i just like and love cars ! by the way new rs 6 is amazing and handles perfect on the new static coil-over suspension ! :)))
Totally biased review.
Lol it wasnt ive owned both brands, they have strengths and weaknesses but bmw has moved in a different direction over the last decade, numbers in sales over anything else. Meaning they want you to pay top dollar for any performance, that wasnt always the case.
Can you guys review the 2012 e350 sedan when you get a chance? 40 more HP wondering if it makes a difference. Thank you.
Great review guys!! Fun review and you hit the points of the actual buyers of these cars!! Mercedes, BMW, and Lexus has a lot of work to do to catch up with what Audi has done. Lexus GS350 is much better but still is not there yet. But in al fairness is a giant leap forward from the old GS. Review the Audi Vs. GS350 see if you have the same sentiment as I had
This is an Audi appliance advert. They should sell it in a bundle. Buy an efficient, soulless and fugly Audi and get a blender for you and a G shock for him.
silly and childisch review.. It seemed audi sponsored it.
You two are by far the best car reviewers. You guys are so funny. I laughed so much at the daewoo joke in the begining. You guys should do reviews on the GMC Acadia Denali (without a race with a big sequoia), 2012 camry Se, and lastly kia optima Sx. Those are some of my favorite cars.
Good job guys. That was a fun review.
Audi might have the better performance,the cheaper car etc etc but there is always one thing from the Beemer above it all.That is the fact it is a Beemer.Therefore I buy them and not because one is faster as the other.With a race is comes to the driver.Here in Germany Audi tries for decades to be the number one But till now it is still 1: BMW 2:Mercedes and only 3th Audi..why?because it is an Audi.Even as they have good sales numbers but most are company cars on lease contracts.Almost to compare with a Ford Mondeo
Audi is for old people, BMW is for people full of life!
Opposite
Kid Minecrafter l.o.l.
TRUE
lol buying rs6 tomw 😍😍😍
You guys did a great job doing an acceleration run from a complete stop on both cars, although it would have been nice to see them start side-by-side. I drove the 5 Series back-to-back against the supercharged A6 on a track, and was surprised at the BMW's pronounced turbo lag. It's something most other reviewers miss or claim doesn't exist. The Audi's steering was also better, with noticeably better road feel. BMW seems to have lost its way...
which car is silent? BMW5 or Audi A6?which one have better sound insulation?
Audi go versus for kia or wolksvagen ))) bmw is the best !!
Audi an vw are a union they own bugatti,porche,bentley,and,lamborghini and so on
Well Audi is owned by VW, basically a more expensive Volkswagen with a tuxedo on
O J that's a pretty good analogy.
Hell yeah , i agree 👍
O J And a few years ago, Mercedes Benz was under Daimler-Chrysler, therefore, sharing some parts with a 300. Dont get hyped up!
Put the 550i vs Audi better match up
The 550i would run against the Audi S6, the "S" being used to represent the most powerful non RS car in the lineup. In this case the 550i would be destroyed, be a large margin.
***** Destroyed LOL every BMW is better than ANY Audi :))
Where was Audi 10 years ago?
You're nuts or just biased..The M5 tops everything you speak about....
lyrixtuber Says the person who has never driven a basic model BMW. The 550i would be destroyed by the S6 performance wise. This is fact.
I own an E91 2010 model and I have driven audi too lol stfu kid please
@romanmicagearguy
BMW uses twin-scroll power for the turbos for their I-6, right?
I guess that is a matter of opinion, I am in my tenth year of driving BMWs. I had the 7 series and have the 3 series now. Though a fantastic driver's cars, I have had lots of issues with maintenance and reliability. I am very tempted to buy an Audi. With the Audi you have the reassurance of the quattro system which is useful if you live in the wetter and harsher climates. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you too :-)
BMW
I hate this show
@thestoryteller612 Than why don't you?
Was the auto start stop button on???
Audi
Ugly BMW lost... BEAUTIFUL A6 WON
+Kid Minecrafter said no one ever
You're ugly
+Joey F thank you
Shut your ugly butt up the bmw looks a lot better faster more expensive and more reliable a6 looks like a junk voltswagon
5:05 When you floor it, how is it so slow at the beginning?
@05front Yup, we tried that too. Actually, I tried that while Roman simply when from brake to gas. The 5-Series bogged down once I released the brake. I think the traction control mixed with the computer controlled boost kept everything mellow for the sake of the engine. Off the line, it was nearly as sluggish. Next time I’ll use an M5.
How much audi pay for this video
BMW ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!
bmw is better than audi
the comparison its not real
+lani ch lol
Thank You Guys Great Test ....
great video. loves watching!
I have the A6 3L supercharged car. But i think not to give the BMW the nod for driving feel.at the wheel is an impirtant ommission. Most people drive these cars at 3/10ths to 5/10ths 95% of the time and how the car feels at the wheel is a real pleasure is a key value point driving a fine car. On the other hand the Audi's 3L is exceptional in fuel.economy, also not mentioned. Driving across Sydney in heavy slow traffic recently, for 90 minutes it returned better than 26mpg (US). On highway cruise at 65mph it returns 34npg(US). But if you drive dynamically around town it drops to 20mpg(US).
@fedorvanmegen have you weighed the cars yourself?
Nice review. Where was this filmed?
You are correct of course. We got the exact same amount of money from VW that BMW paid you to post this comment
@NathanDAdlen Awesome! Where do you get these T-shirts? I'm a fan of Pontiac, especially back in the day and of course the Australian made G8. I wouldn't mind that shirt. Thanks for the awesome reviews, entertaining.
Great reviews!
Very good review!
Thanks!
The 535i had an ECU problem at the time, so I believe the throttle response issue is solved now.
About as believable as 9/11.
are they both made in usa?
I work as a service advisor at a BMW dealer here in LA. The vast majority of the owners I see of the 535i will never be drag racing with anyone. They are doctors, real estate agents, owners of companies that buy the car for the image (nothing wrong with that), the quality, the luxury and safety. Wheter it goes from 0-60 in 5.1 secs or in 5.8 seconds wont matter worth a shiat to any of them.
Nice review...I like the way you presented it. But really 5 looks more like 7! And there is no sense in looking more like 3 because there is a more than a year gap between them with 5 comming out first. Therefore you could say in some following reciew that 3 looks 5ish but not the other way round!
thanks for the funny yet informative review!
since I've seen this car, i want one, but i always been hearing that audi has mechanical problems is it true ?
Not really biased that one guy just accepted the fact that the audi beats it in every metric.
@yjzang You are completely wrong. Both Nathan and I love BMWs. In fact, I've owned a few great ones including a killer M3. Please don't assume that just because we liked the Audi A6 better...we hate BMWs.
awesome review! i love both cars, but i liked the A6 more! both are great cars thou
really great, extensive review
@stigmanful FYI: They pay us the exact same amount that BMW pays you to write your pro BMW comment.
I had the 2011 5 series..2 years later I switched to the 2012 A6 3.0T Quattro S Line with 20" wheels, exclusive 2 tone valcona leather seats, all bells & whistles. And boy does it knock the 5 series out!! it so much better at torque, speed and handling. It just hugs the road. Put the gear in Sport mode and it's totally different and powerful car. 0-60 in 5.5 sec..awesome
@yjzang I had a BMW 320 a long time ago and my favorite 2-seat sports car (under $100K) is the new Z4. I think you might be correct about the handling IF the BMW was an M5 vs an Audi A6 RS6.