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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • And now War Thunder's jumping on the Top Gun Maverick bandwagon. And why not?
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Комментарии • 506

  • @WillM38
    @WillM38 2 года назад +616

    Ah Jingles, never change. The only Sidewinder he shot was the last missile. All the rest were Sparrows

    • @paperitgel98
      @paperitgel98 2 года назад +171

      Yup. I was the pilot lol. I was running 6 x AIM7F and 2 x AIM9H.

    • @rags417
      @rags417 2 года назад +7

      The first two might have been Phoenix, but yeah - "Sidewinders"

    • @Tank50us
      @Tank50us 2 года назад +18

      @@paperitgel98 Jingles being Jingles eh? Yeah, I saw that 2 and 6 loadout and every time I heard him call "Fox 2" was holding back the urge to yell "IT'S FOX 1!" I fly the Tomcat in DCS... and... yeah... things like that annoy me XD

    • @lolsmcfee
      @lolsmcfee 2 года назад +4

      i thought about this when he talked about the no tone lock. its intresting and should be in the game for sure but sadly its not on the aim 9Hs as of right now.

    • @paperitgel98
      @paperitgel98 2 года назад +6

      @@rags417 no. I don't have the Phoenix unlocked.

  • @paperitgel98
    @paperitgel98 2 года назад +215

    Lets gooooo Thats my replay lol. Thank you Mr overlord gnome.

    • @redfro4992
      @redfro4992 2 года назад +12

      well played sir

    • @drrocketman7794
      @drrocketman7794 2 года назад +5

      Agreed! GG!

    • @evanszymanski346
      @evanszymanski346 2 года назад +3

      Dude what the actual fuck lmao. I'm assuming this is a realistic right. You are absolutely amazing at getting gun kills like omg the fact that you basically know where to exactly aim is insane lol.

    • @apache-ip8vj
      @apache-ip8vj 2 года назад +1

      gg my guy

    • @rowdytexan3932
      @rowdytexan3932 Год назад +1

      Not gonna lie, if you we carrying the Phoenix then you puke be able to shoot down the enemy aircraft as they were heading back to their airfield. Still well played sir

  • @sgtrpcommand3778
    @sgtrpcommand3778 2 года назад +385

    "I think he's carrying all sidewinders"
    *looks at weapons rack and sees AIM-7 Sparrows* Um... Jingles?
    *Fires an AIM-7*
    "There's another Fox 2" Ok Jingles you're doing this on purpose :p
    Also, I believe the wing flutter itself is realistic but not in those situations? It should be when the aircraft is under heavy stress - so near to max speed (which I'm pretty sure the A's engines can't reach) or in high alpha turns.

    • @johngrace1312
      @johngrace1312 2 года назад +32

      Wing Flutter in WT is a sliding scale based on how close you are to the arbitrarily decided “Max speed” of your aircraft.
      There’s been alot of tests, the F-4? It would take 2 full fuel tanks in WT reach its reported top speed at 10,000ft. The F-105? Over 150 mph slower than it’s real life counterpart. The F-14A? What’s a compressor stall?
      The more advanced you go in WT the less you’re flying a historically based aircraft, and more you’re flying a fictional aircraft with historically based skin

    • @sgtrpcommand3778
      @sgtrpcommand3778 2 года назад +7

      @@johngrace1312 Yeah I had heard that the top tier jets in WT were interesting to say the least when it came to that. I must admit, I don't play that high because I can't be asked to grind, and little details like this honestly stop me from wanting to play top tier as well.

    • @johngrace1312
      @johngrace1312 2 года назад +4

      @@sgtrpcommand3778 “interesting” is probably a more accurate word for top tier Aircraft than most of the aircraft in question, but personally I don’t mind it too much? Like I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt and say that these inaccuracies are concessions for gameplay purposes, but I want to be upfront with things like this because I know it’s a huge turn off for a lot of people in the military history community

    • @johngrace1312
      @johngrace1312 2 года назад

      @Alex Snowden like I said, I don’t personally mind the inaccuracy, because they do their best with the limited time they can put into everything, and also, it wouldn’t be particularly good as a game if you could hit something at the other end of the map from your airfield, or if you didn’t have the time to get yourself ready for engagement. That’s what simulators like DCS are for

    • @Tank50us
      @Tank50us 2 года назад +1

      @Alex Snowden just look at what they cost for study-level sims like DCS

  • @rogaldorn1965
    @rogaldorn1965 2 года назад +125

    Good old Jingles, calling the AIM-7 Sparrow a Sidewinder.

    • @Orca19904
      @Orca19904 2 года назад +1

      I think I only saw one actual Sidewinder launch for the whole video.

    • @TheViralInfekT
      @TheViralInfekT 2 года назад +1

      Details 😂

    • @leftfootsam
      @leftfootsam 2 года назад +2

      If jingles says it’s a sidewinder that’s what it is. Lol

    • @lt_bacon205
      @lt_bacon205 2 года назад +1

      And this is why we love him he is so silly sometimes

    • @anticlaassic
      @anticlaassic 2 года назад

      To be fair: it is hard to know without the in battle inter face from the radar lock.
      But it is extremly funny

  • @CptInside
    @CptInside 2 года назад +39

    Friendly Information about the guidence System of the Aim-54 Phoenix ;) (Spoiler its not technically fire and forget)
    "The Phoenix has several guidance modes and achieves its longest range by using mid-course updates from the F-14A/B AWG-9 radar (APG-71 radar in the F-14D) as it climbs to cruise between 80,000 ft (24,000 m) and 100,000 ft (30,000 m) at close to Mach 5. The Phoenix uses this high altitude to maximize its range by reducing atmospheric drag. At around 11 miles (18 km) from the target, the missile activates its own radar to provide terminal guidance.[9] Minimum engagement range for the Phoenix is around 2 nmi (3.7 km); at this range active homing would initiate upon launch.[9]"

    • @davidsmith8997
      @davidsmith8997 2 года назад +2

      It's also been fired in anger twice by USN pilots against Iraqi fighters in various patrol missions between GW1 and GW2. It failed both times.

    • @kilianortmann9979
      @kilianortmann9979 2 года назад +5

      @@davidsmith8997 That is a bit simplified, there were two launches in January 1999, both times the rocket motor failed, they had continuous issues with cracks and corrosion in the later years.
      The second use, later that year was a success however, the missile was fired at long range and tracked, the enemy aircraft turned cold and fled.
      That is not as fancy as a kill, but the missile fulfilled it's mission, stopping the enemy attack.
      Aim-54 can be fire and forget (technically pitbull) at shorter distances (less than 10NM) or with the ACM cover open.

    • @CptInside
      @CptInside 2 года назад

      @@ursamajor7468 Yeah, kinda forgot about that ^^

    • @davidsmith8997
      @davidsmith8997 2 года назад +1

      @@kilianortmann9979 I should have said failed to hit both times. It could be argued that a solid STT lock might have done the same thing in the second case. In any case, no kills.

  • @llraijinll5753
    @llraijinll5753 2 года назад +163

    I wish Jingles would do warthunder more often ♥️😭

    • @kaltaron1284
      @kaltaron1284 2 года назад +19

      But then Star Citizen would have released by now.

    • @cptpheges1028
      @cptpheges1028 2 года назад +3

      You can blame gaijin for that still. Main reason he stopped was from a phlydaily multiple years ago where gaijin was going 1984 with control over content creators

    • @Scottyvt4
      @Scottyvt4 2 года назад

      @@ursamajor7468 the future was already written by gaijin, the way the treated Xbox users on IL2 Birds of Prey was with contempt and disgraceful.... and the stupidity of bugs in Birds of Steel ie 10 (AI) vs 1 in some missions, having to overlay missions in the MP to make them last more than 5mins etc etc. We should have heeded the warnings lmao.

    • @JohnSmith-kg2rt
      @JohnSmith-kg2rt Год назад

      @@cptpheges1028 what happened again

    • @joemcnulty6814
      @joemcnulty6814 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@JohnSmith-kg2rtbasically war thunder didn't treater older RUclipsrs very well

  • @Deltarious
    @Deltarious 2 года назад +140

    Just a few notes about the Tomcat and the Phoenix: While it's true the AIM-54 has a theoretical maximum range of over 100nm in practice it can only hit those kinds of ranges when launched from very high altitudes and high speed against equally high altitude and fast moving bombers headed straight for you that cannot maneuver out of the way in time once the missile goes active. In practice against a mnauverable target you're looking at closer to 60 miles at very high altitude, but much more commonly 40-30 miles for a shot with enough energy to score a decent hit. This aligns closely with the Tomcat's original mission: Interceptor and fleet defender. The concept being that there was a perceived need for the capability of shooting down large quantities of soviet supersonic bombers conducting a massive attack on a US carrier group. Therefore to counter them a very long range missile, with a very high speed, high performance aircraft that had an equally high powered radar (and it is true the F-14 was essentially built around the use of the AWG-9, and that the AIM-54 was equally designed in tandem to work with it). Theoretically the Tomcat is capable of detecting, identifying and engaging up to six aircraft simultaneously with Phoenixes while providing guidance for all of them, although the aircraft would not be able to land again in this configuration due to weight restrictions so you'd either have to have shot enough of them, or jettison the extremely expensive missiles before landing. As a final note, the rules of engagement often did preclude the use of the phoenix, but visual identification *is* possible in the tomcat outside of what would normally be considered 'visual range' as the "Television Camera Set" (TCS) pod under the nose can be slaved to the radar allowing for identification from upwards of 20 miles.
    You mentioned the US not operating the Phoenix missile anymore, this was not solely due to the lack of capability- there was exploration into operating the AIM-54 from F-15s and it was deemed possible, though at significant cost to speed and manoeuvrability, (NASA even did testing with them) however it was deemed too expensive and ultimately cost was far and away the overriding factor- there was not a perceived justification to the costs involved in maintaining the system or migrating it to other platforms versus the perceived gain in capabilities especially now that by this time the AMRAAM had entered service and the cold war had ended.
    I will note that you mentioned of the AMRAAM that "Once it's launched it finds the target by itself" this is untrue- the launching aircraft provides course corrections mid flight to the missile and guides it onto the target until the 'terminal' phase of the flight at which time the missile switches on it's own seeker and takes over, which then both alerts the target they're being actively attacked and also allows you to 'forget' the missile. The NATO brevity term for this moment is when the missile goes 'pitbull', and it happens typically somewhere around 10 nautical miles to the target.

    • @korayyy440
      @korayyy440 2 года назад +11

      100 nano meters is quite short imo

    • @rags417
      @rags417 2 года назад +2

      This is pretty much what I have seen in other videos - the Phoenix fired head on has maybe 40-50km tops, I think at optimum altitude and speed it could easily be triple that.

    • @luke_3_113
      @luke_3_113 2 года назад +4

      @@korayyy440 Yup it is. Though I think "nm" here might just refer to 'nautical miles'!

    • @korayyy440
      @korayyy440 2 года назад +2

      @@luke_3_113 Lies.

    • @augiehicks4588
      @augiehicks4588 2 года назад +1

      @@rags417 40-50nm*. Depending on speed, altitude, closure rate, and variant of the missile, that range could increase.

  • @mab2187
    @mab2187 2 года назад +22

    Mistakes made by Gnome Lord.
    Majority of shots were were Fox 1 Aim 7Fs Sparrows... This is the F-14A "Early" currently no all aspect heatseekers for it, best is the Aim 9H. All the front aspect shots or at least most of them were Fox 1 Sparrows since he isn't carrying any pheonixes. WT aircrafts are modeled to have their wings flutter/wobble at high speeds, idk how much wobble they do irl but its not a bug. Lastly WT replays don't show missile locks in 3rd person aka no missile lock rings or boxes etc. Good job Jingles, love WT pls do more WT vids.

  • @adevioushyena3828
    @adevioushyena3828 2 года назад +13

    2:06
    Jingles: Giving us music trivia.
    Me: Is it normal for the wings to be doing that?

  • @iambob6590
    @iambob6590 2 года назад +131

    Let's face it, even to this day.
    The F14 Tomcat is a freaking cool aircraft.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 2 года назад +2

      It is also a lemon which is part of why it was retired. The engine flameout that was a big deal in the first movie was a recurring problem with the F-14A they would later fix with the B model by then Secretary of Defense and later VP Dick Cheny though the Tomcat was 60s tech and didn't allow procurement of the newer F-14s so the Super Hornet seen in Maverick were used to replace them.

    • @ComaradComisar
      @ComaradComisar 2 года назад +3

      It is, and it's also faster than most of the fighter jets we use today lol

    • @MommyKhaos
      @MommyKhaos 2 года назад

      @@ComaradComisar speed isn't everything, as high speed is more or less a massive waste of fuel

    • @ComaradComisar
      @ComaradComisar 2 года назад +1

      @@MommyKhaos Speed is pretty damn important for military aircraft though. And that's not necessarily true, more often than not going slow is a bigger waste of fuel.

    • @MommyKhaos
      @MommyKhaos 2 года назад

      @@ComaradComisar actually not true, as trans sonic creates massive amounts of drag, and super sonic requires afterburners which chug fuel. The f35 is the one of few aircraft that can cruise at supersonic speeds without an afterburner, but as it turns out bvr missiles are a lot better for combat

  • @LegionOfEclaires
    @LegionOfEclaires 2 года назад +28

    The replay is not showing radar locks but he's using Sparrows for those head on kills.
    The F-14 only has Aim-9 D/G/H, none of which are all-aspect.

    • @chrishill3536
      @chrishill3536 2 года назад

      Yeah but If listen call out fox out which is a term for rader lock lunch.

    • @fredericlepeltier3435
      @fredericlepeltier3435 2 года назад +1

      @@chrishill3536 Call FOX 1 for SARH missiles (sparrow and falcon)
      FOX 2 for IR missiles (sidewinder, atoll, magic)
      FOX 3 for Active radar missiles (Phoenix and AMRAAMs)
      SARH is NOT beam riding.

    • @chrishill3536
      @chrishill3536 2 года назад +1

      @@fredericlepeltier3435 been a while since I heard the term but you get why I say that.

  • @dadonkee1240
    @dadonkee1240 2 года назад +178

    I feel the need... the need to mingle with Jingles

  • @FondlesHandles
    @FondlesHandles 2 года назад +72

    the wing flutter isnt a bug, its a feature(tm) meant to be a visual cue as to how close to wing overload speed you are. afaik, it doesnt affect aerodynamics, but gaijin being gaijin, it could. thing is, the top speed of the f14 is close to 1500 mph. the wings arent supposed to flutter at the speed he's going, approx 715 mph. they really should be rock solid up to their top speed. and even if the jet exceeds its top speed, the wings arent supposed to shear off

    • @fireraid2336
      @fireraid2336 2 года назад +5

      It's a replay bug.

    • @BreadApologist
      @BreadApologist 2 года назад +17

      Oh sure you could use fancy accurate logic n reasoning to explain it.....OR you could use my explanation .....The jet is just shaking cause its cold and needs a jacket.

    • @KittyFoxKitsune
      @KittyFoxKitsune 2 года назад +9

      @@BreadApologist wing shaking makes the plane fly faster, scientifically proven. the more the wing shakes, the faster the plane flies, until eventually the wing out speeds the plane and leaves the plane behind.

    • @wruenvadam
      @wruenvadam 2 года назад +5

      You're missing the part where that top speed wasn't achieved at sea level where the air is a lot thicker. Sure it can go 1500mph... At high altitude where indicated airspeeds are a lot lower which means much less stress is actually happening on the airframe at those speeds at altitude. 1500mph on the deck is waaay different than 1500mph at 30,000-40,000 feet. No modern jet can hit their stated maximum speed at sea level. Those maximum speeds are always at a given altitude where they perform optimally at. Modern air liners have a top speed of around 0.9 Mach... But not at sea level. It is physically impossible for them to fly anywhere near that fast at sea level, but at 40,000 feet they can literally do that all day long.

  • @neoquegon
    @neoquegon 2 года назад +63

    the first time I saw the tomcat, or I should say a fighter aircraft modeled after it was in Robotech. I still expect to see the jolly roger on the tail anytime I see one of these, I do love this plane it doesn't get the recognition it really deserves

    • @kewlwarez
      @kewlwarez 2 года назад +4

      Same. I half expected it to go into giant robot mode at some point.

    • @karelmarkvart1517
      @karelmarkvart1517 2 года назад +2

      Are you aware there is no Robotech? ;)

    • @davidsmith8997
      @davidsmith8997 2 года назад +3

      Go Roy Fokker!

    • @connorbranscombe6819
      @connorbranscombe6819 2 года назад

      Lol the Tomcat is probably the most circlejerked aircraft though, if anything its overrated.

  • @Forscythe80
    @Forscythe80 2 года назад +14

    Did anyone else hear Archer sing "Daaaanger zone" when they saw the title in their subscription list?

  • @rensvanderhoeven9440
    @rensvanderhoeven9440 2 года назад +26

    I'd love to see more of this. Those gun kills were amazing to watch as an ex-WT player

  • @bobtank6318
    @bobtank6318 2 года назад +20

    Interesting fact about the Phoenix missile: the Tomcat, while originally designed to carry 6 Phoenixes at a time, only carried up to 4 when in actual deployment operations. Carrying a full 6 made the aircraft so heavy that it made landing on the carrier dangerous. Thus, the standard “max” loadout of a Tomcat was 4 Phoenixes, 2 Sparrows, and 2 Sidewinders.
    Also, the Phoenix still technically outranges the AMRAAM. AMRAAM is still better though thanks to other improvements.

    • @barg1295
      @barg1295 2 года назад

      The latest D variant of the Aim-120 matches the range of the Phoenix.

    • @bobtank6318
      @bobtank6318 2 года назад +1

      @@barg1295 Not really, it’s a bit shorter ranged.
      Not that max range shots are advisable. Physics ruin everything.

    • @LeWille00
      @LeWille00 2 года назад +2

      There also is as small difference between the switch from the coasting to active phase of the Phoenix A compared to the AMRAAM. The Phoenix A required to have the radar beam still pointing in the target direction to go active (enabling his own radar). They changed that with the C variant to act just like the AMRAAM

    • @rags417
      @rags417 2 года назад +2

      @@bobtank6318 Apparently the AIM-120D variant has a shorter engine burn time but better aerodynamics (the Phoenix is one fat b*stard), so it depends upon altitude. The Phoenix does better high up (which is what it was designed for) while the AIM-120 does better everywhere else.

    • @thomasembleton1467
      @thomasembleton1467 2 года назад +1

      Only Enterprise tomcats used the 6 aim54 loadout in exercises thanks crazy bob!

  • @nicorozner7417
    @nicorozner7417 2 года назад +7

    Man, I can't wait to fly that thing after 2 and a half years of grinding War Thunder as a full time job!

    • @doobas2171
      @doobas2171 2 года назад

      Get a high tier premium jet, get some premium time, and then use the premium jet to grind the tree and it doesn’t take long at all

    • @nicorozner7417
      @nicorozner7417 2 года назад

      @@doobas2171 I don't wanna spend money though

  • @TolerablyInterested
    @TolerablyInterested 2 года назад +20

    Sorry to nitpick, most of nomads missiles are aim7f sparrows, not sidewinders, the f14 doesn't have all aspect sidewinders.

    • @jameson1239
      @jameson1239 2 года назад +1

      At least in game right now it should have AIM-9Ls as that’s what it would use historically

    • @TolerablyInterested
      @TolerablyInterested 2 года назад

      @@jameson1239 yeah couple of vehicles like that, the f4f would certainly would be improved with its all aspect ir.

    • @BeasantN
      @BeasantN 2 года назад

      The sidewinder comment isn't true. The Tomcat C used AIM9M which was an all aspect sidewinder. The Tomcat A rarely used it but it did have the capability to do so. Oh Jingles Maverick is a brilliant comedy film that rips off Star wars, trench run and exhaust port anyone? But a good almost realistic film it isn't. they have no idea how a modern air strike is planned apparently EW isn't a thing, SEAD missions don't exist, Escort fighters aren't used and Alpha strikes well lets just not mention them. Oh and flares spoof radar guided missiles I could go on but what's the point. then again it wouldn't be a Jingles video with out a lot of brown stuff being said. Oh Jingles the Viggen isn't an interceptor. It was designed as a ground attack / anti shipping aircraft. You are probably mistaking it for the Draken.

    • @TolerablyInterested
      @TolerablyInterested 2 года назад +2

      @@BeasantN I'm talking about in the context of in game. And it isn't the c in game, its the a.

    • @BeasantN
      @BeasantN 2 года назад

      @@TolerablyInterested So it might have been better to actually say that? Rather than say a factually incorrect statement. Then again like I said it wouldn't be a Jingles video without him saying so much crap that's wrong. That's why we love him. 😁

  • @Orca19904
    @Orca19904 2 года назад +13

    To answer a couple of points raised by Jingles in the video; first off, the fluttering of the wings is seen on other aircraft in the game and is meant to simulate aerodynamic stress, though it's rather unrealistically exaggerated on the Tomcat. As for the missile loadout the player featured in the video is running, it looks like he's packing 6 Sparrows and 2 Sidewinders; the first three missiles he fires are the Sparrows on the wing pylons and aft fuselage station, and when he breaks left at 4:58 you can see the remaining Sparrows on the fuselage stations between the engine nacelles and the two Sidewinders on the wing pylons.

  • @AliTaylor777
    @AliTaylor777 2 года назад +1

    To add to the Danger Zone trivia, the arrangement you hear Kenny singing to is actually Toto’s. They took the very basic Moroder track and created the fleshed out song we all know and love. They were also going to provide the love song, a track called Only You that they later released in the early 90s on the Kingdom Of Desire album. But Simpson and Bruckheimer met up with the band and Simpson got a bee in his bonnet because Steve Lukather had the same Ferrari model he had and his wasn’t the only one in Hollywood. The studio then suddenly wanted to re-record the track using studio musicians, despite Toto consisting of the best studio musicians in L.A., possibly because Don Simpson was being difficult, so the band pulled out of the movie. They also had to turn down Footloose 2 years earlier, as they didn’t have a lead singer, so Kenny Loggin’s career has been built on Toto’s leftovers!

  • @EdwardZhou_TJOL56
    @EdwardZhou_TJOL56 2 года назад +4

    Nomad only has two sidewinders, he's got a ton of sparrows on his centerline

    • @Orca19904
      @Orca19904 2 года назад

      And two more on the wing stations keeping the Sidewinders company for a total of 6 Fox Ones.

  • @HHUSKYHUSKY
    @HHUSKYHUSKY 2 года назад +89

    Only true Americans can watch a tomcat clear the skies of enemy bogeys at about 3:21 in the morning and feel no regret

  • @CrazyChemistPL
    @CrazyChemistPL 2 года назад +1

    This video is actually pretty accurate if you replace every "Sidewinder" with "Sparrow" and every "Fox-2" with "Fox-1".

  • @brianm2242
    @brianm2242 2 года назад +2

    I love every shot taken at Star Citizen. No game is more deserving of our ridicule.

  • @nazamroth8427
    @nazamroth8427 2 года назад +2

    The day will come when we can all read "Danger Zone" and not have the music playing in our head. But it is not today.

  • @leetonge5171
    @leetonge5171 2 года назад +13

    Perfect timing Jingles. Just as i sat with my Latte and teacake at Costas

  • @bigtuna5030
    @bigtuna5030 2 года назад +19

    Hey jingles love your videos great to see another one! I just saw a video covering what happened in desert storm and they mentioned you on a HMS ship that was amazing to see! Luckily being deployed means I can catch a video from you early

  • @Maverick-7508
    @Maverick-7508 2 года назад

    The tomcat also has a guidance system capable of guiding 36 missiles to target at once. a flight of 6 planes to target could fire their payload and only 1 plane was needed to guide them to target, provided the RIO knew what he was doing. Also while the AMRAAM nears the range of the AIM 54(85 nmi on production models, 100 nmi on prototypes) they don't have the speed with the AMRAAM topping out at mach 4, while the AIM 54 is hypersonic at Mach 5.

  • @Matt_UFP
    @Matt_UFP 2 года назад +1

    11:30 that was a SARH missile, like almost all the others in this video (aim 7F), either way an aim 9 H still needs a lock in war thunder to be fired like every other missile type in the game

  • @robertperry6048
    @robertperry6048 2 года назад

    VF-1 The wolf pack as well as their sister squadron VF-2 the Bounty Hunters served on the USS Ranger CVA-61 when I was aboard long ago. It was a great honor to work with them.

  • @skylarsimes8
    @skylarsimes8 2 года назад +1

    The spitfire may be the most beautiful aircraft ever made....but the Tomcat is hands down the sexiest

  • @blaster112
    @blaster112 2 года назад +2

    Jingles the "bug" with the wings shaking is because he is approaching the structural limit of his wings. He is going so fast he is approaching the point where his wings will rip off. The vibrating of his wings is a warning sign.

    • @nickierv13
      @nickierv13 2 года назад +2

      No, flutter starts 2:00 at .75 mach. Top speed is what, mach 1.2? It might be intended, but not that that soon.

    • @blaster112
      @blaster112 2 года назад +1

      @@nickierv13 yeah it does start too soon, but you can see that the replay shows the speed in red already. For some reason his replay thinks the plane is overspeeding too soon.

    • @Nighthawk2401
      @Nighthawk2401 2 года назад

      @@blaster112
      My guess is that the replay doesn't recognize the speed limit difference between full/min wing sweep, so it thinks the wings are near breaking and plays the flutter effect

  • @ovrwrldkiler
    @ovrwrldkiler Год назад +1

    Way late here, but the reason for the fluttering wings is actually just the replay system. It doesnt look like that for the player ingame. All the swing wing planes are always treated as if they have full out wing sweep in replays why is why the thing is also screaming at him the whole time that hes redlining the plane. Its just gaijin's replay spaghetti code and works/looks fine in the actual game. Also, those were all fox1's except for the last one. XD

  • @carlhurley6115
    @carlhurley6115 2 года назад

    Reminds me of the Red Dawn scene where they ask the colonel how he got shot down. "It was five to one; I got four."

  • @blue2sco
    @blue2sco 2 года назад +1

    Erm Jingles..... he was carrying Sparrows. I'll go do more shifts as penance.

  • @jimbe01
    @jimbe01 2 года назад

    Point of information - For the AIM-120, & ER, the missile is initially a beam rider type operation ( similar to AIM - 7 Sparrow), in that it requires/needs reflected RF energy from the target that is illuminated (painted) by the launch platform aircraft;’s target/search radar system.. This continues until the missile acquires the target with its onboard radar/seeker capability, (“Bulldog”), at which time the illuminating A/C can then target break-lock with its onboard radar, with the missile proceeding (hopefully) to the target under its own guidance/control.

  • @warhawk9566
    @warhawk9566 2 года назад +3

    The reason why the wings wobble in warthunder is, apparently the engine doesn't know how to handle aircraft going above 1200km/h so even when an aircraft is capable of going much faster than that their wings will wobble violently until they rip off or the player slows down

  • @alexanderandersson4093
    @alexanderandersson4093 2 года назад +1

    When you go fast enough the wings will wobble

  • @Cam_Wight
    @Cam_Wight 2 года назад +1

    "Actually Jingles, those missiles were the phoni-... Jingles?"
    *cocks shotgun*

  • @jonathanperry8331
    @jonathanperry8331 2 года назад

    I asked the tomcat rio about the wing wobble. He said it really doesn't act like that but sometimes he could see the rudders fluctuating a little bit.

  • @frenchouiaboo816
    @frenchouiaboo816 2 года назад

    "i think he's got 6 missiles" the HUD saying "AAM 8" on the left side of the screen crying for being ignored

  • @hondansx1000
    @hondansx1000 2 года назад +1

    10:53 Also Jingles the Meteor missile exists and is like a Phoenix but on steroids

  • @Prederick
    @Prederick 2 года назад +2

    A wonderful bideo, but the Star Citizen bit at the beginning had me, as a former backer, laughing my ass off.

  • @Ivanova2718
    @Ivanova2718 2 года назад +1

    I can't tell if Jingles enjoys war thunder replays more or less than poking fun at star citizen

  • @firestarteronyoutube5542
    @firestarteronyoutube5542 2 года назад

    He fired 1 Sidewinder in that entire video
    The rest were Sparrows on Radar Targets
    Jingles, never change :)

  • @gerikucinski2427
    @gerikucinski2427 2 года назад

    A story. Back when the F15 was entering service with the US Air Force, an F14 unit at Norfolk agreed to have a training exercise against the F15s stationed at Langley AFB (outside of Washington DC). The Air Force was excited for a chance to show off their state-of-the-art aircraft…
    The Navy made certain their aircraft took off first - and then they announced a Phoenix ‘kill’ of each F15 as soon as it went wheels-up out of Langley.
    The next time the Navy and Air Force had a “friendly” training exercise, the Phoenix missile was banned from the Navy’s load-out.

  • @jakobeng1303
    @jakobeng1303 2 года назад

    fun fact, Giorgio moroder (who is from South Tyrol) has also written the most popular version of hallelujah that is now a standard in all the German speaking catholic churches) and is featured in a song by daft punk

  • @mkang8782
    @mkang8782 2 года назад

    The Star Citizen shade alone made the video worth watching; the rest was just delicious icing on the cake.

  • @williamwhitney7395
    @williamwhitney7395 Год назад

    I was an ABH-AN on the USS-Nimitz CVN-68. unless their just sloppy with the details. that F-14 was loaded with sparrow missiles on the underbody racks. I served in Desert Storm and I'm familiar with everything from the sidewinders to Phoenix AAM.

  • @MichaelDYoung-gi4si
    @MichaelDYoung-gi4si 2 года назад +7

    the F-14 properly equipped and customized was capable of flying straight up 100% vertical while accelerating on full afterburner...
    and they came up with one single large heavy missle that was not designed for air to air acquisition or air to ground targeting...
    the weapon in question was fired at maximum altitude while under full acceleration at an altitude so high the plane had almost no ability to maneuver - no lift for the wings and no air for engine combustion...
    the weapon in question was not an explosive warhead - the payload was essentially large specialy hardened stainless steel or tungsten carbide ball bearings or spheres contained within a cup backed up by a wad like material almost identical to a common #7 1/2 shot trap and skeet shotgun shells content...
    the idea being the shot pattern when dispersed and no longer continuing to expand or accelerate would leave a static pattern of steel or depleted uranium spheres in the low earth orbital pathway of enemy satellite 🛰 or similar observational platform...
    the orbital velocity of the satellite was such that when encountering even a few small spherical objects would result in rather stupendous damage from energy state exchange upon impact...
    I believe that only one of these weapons could be carried aloft on an individual slick tomcat specially dressed and that NASA and the skunk works were involved during Reagans Star Wars technology development programs via DARPA...
    this device may have violated some international treaty obligations or rules...
    🚀 🚀 🎉🎉🎯🎯🛰🛰🛸🛸🛩🛩
    Michael

    • @MandolinMagi
      @MandolinMagi 2 года назад +2

      The anti-sat missile was only used by the F-15, not the F-14.

    • @MichaelDYoung-gi4si
      @MichaelDYoung-gi4si 2 года назад +2

      the final production variant ASM-135 ASAT is a supersonic zoom climb terminal phase air-launched anti-satellite multistage missile was eventually adopted after extensive trials...
      this off the shelf official in inventory Kinetic energy / thermal bloom kill weapon with a 2600 lb "buckshot" or "canister " conventional payload was officially designated / deployed from the F-15 airframe variants...
      the B-47 SPIN Stratojet was the initial proposed airframe and several F Century variants (ie F-104G maritime antishiping strike vehicle or NASA F-106 R (Rascal Project Sat launch / anti sat test bed vehicles)...
      the F106 platform was replaced by the F-15 series and served in Nat Gaurd units until the late 90's...
      B-58 Hustler and F-14 TFX and F-111B airframe were also initially modified to meet the anti sat platform specs in small numbers for evaluation and trials...

    • @deafidue5535
      @deafidue5535 2 года назад

      I can read wikipedia too

  • @shinidigami
    @shinidigami 2 года назад

    Just some terminology (not verbatim). Notching is when you ride perpindicular to the radar of the missile or plane to make them lose lock.. Cranking is when you have to keep the lock on the enemy, but want to open up the distance to make the enemy missile travel further to get slower so you can evade while getting a kill. And shooting a misile without a lock is called 'Mad Dog'.

  •  2 года назад +2

    I think that someone noticed that vane extended near the air intake at the wing root.
    That vane was a maintenance nightmare, and after some time, they get rid of it.
    As Jingles mentioned the Sidewinder, there was a version of it that used a semi active radar (I think it was the AIM-9C), that had around 1,000 produced units, but as it wasn't very effective, it was stored. As time goes by, they developed a modification on the seeker of it and turned it to an antiradar version named AGM-122 nicknamed "Sidearm". As the range is kind of short, and the Tomcat wasn't designed for a "Wild Weasel" mission, the AGM-122 was operated by Sea Harriers but mainly by AH-1Z Cobra helicopters.
    There was also another Sidewinder derivative named AGM-87 that was developed as an anti-armored vehicles (like tanks), but it was taken aside in favor of the AGM-85 Maverick.

    • @Matt_UFP
      @Matt_UFP 2 года назад

      in game at least the aim-9c was only ever used on one of the crusaders, the lowest version of the sidewinder used on the F-14 is the aim-9d, Sparrows are the only available SARH missile on the tomcat

  • @kaltaron1284
    @kaltaron1284 2 года назад +2

    Nice episode of Tomcat Thunder.
    The Saab was the first model plane I ever built. I think the next one was either the F16 or F14. I also have a Tornado and Hokum.

  • @EnderGhost119
    @EnderGhost119 2 года назад +17

    In case it hasn't been mentioned, the wing fluttering is a bug with the replayer. When you actually fly the planes with variable geometry it doesn't appear (atleast not at these speeds) but in the replayer they appear frequently. I think its caused by the replayer not differentiating when the wings are in the forward position and in the swept position.

    • @Depipro
      @Depipro 2 года назад

      Eh, and there I was, about to explain that it was such nice weather, so the aircraft was happily wagging its wings...

  • @garypeyman932
    @garypeyman932 2 года назад

    Phly has a steamy relationship going on at the moment wit the tomcat and phoenix missiles . Its a case of lock , fire then giggle for the next 45 seconds as they catch up plane that never saw it coming

  • @jarrodkopf6813
    @jarrodkopf6813 2 года назад +1

    My favorite appearance for the F-14 Tomcat in any game was in Ace Combat 5 where they were flown by Wardog Squadron, a.k.a. Razgriz Squadron. I wonder if anyone is going to remake the Razgriz skin in War Thunder?

  • @ethanpayne7469
    @ethanpayne7469 2 года назад

    That wing wiggle is completely normal for that speed and altitude.

  • @barnhaardkraft875
    @barnhaardkraft875 2 года назад +1

    In comparison to "regular" Realistic Air Battles in War Thunder, the length of this Battle can be rated as a Binge Watching of "The Hobbit" + "Lord of The Rings" Extended Supercut Directors FinalsTrilogies, of course without going to the Toilet!

    • @Biznatski
      @Biznatski 2 года назад

      Gave me a good ol chuckle and a half.

  • @EnzoFazzi
    @EnzoFazzi 2 года назад

    The USN has definitely fired Phoenix missiles in anger. It happend twice (3 missiles) in 1999 during the no-fly zone period after Desert Storm.

  • @TastierBackInThe80s
    @TastierBackInThe80s 2 года назад +1

    Must be that time of year for the annual War Thunder video.

  • @mmarsh1972
    @mmarsh1972 2 года назад

    Jingles...The AIM-54 was used in combat. In 1999 against Iraqi Mig-25s and against a MiG-23 in a separate incident. All 3 missed. The first 2 incidents rocket boosters failed to fire and the 3rd one hit the ground after it was outrun by the target.
    The truth is the AIM-5 was a lemon that didnt live up to the marketing, which is why it was replaced with the AIM-120.

  • @MrJknight3135
    @MrJknight3135 2 года назад

    I suppose If we can't expect Jingles to tell a cruiser from a submarine I can forgive him for confusing a Sparrow for a Sidewinder.

  • @amschind
    @amschind 2 года назад

    The AIM-54 is kind of a WW3 weapon in US service. F-14s were rarely loaded with a full loadout of 6 because landing with all of that weight was a huge and unnecessary stress on the airframe. The purpose of a huge, very long range AA missile built to track and kill multiple targets with 1960s tech was defending a carrier task force against massed soviet bomber and cruise missile attack. It's revealing that the AIM54 warhead contained more high explosive than a super heavy AP shell fired by an Iowa class battleship: they were built to positively kill big warplanes with one missile.
    In many respects, it's a terrifying weapon, not only because it's capable of hurting machines and the people in them, but also because of the globally catastrophic circumstances that it was designed for.

  • @Kommunisator
    @Kommunisator 2 года назад

    Jingles, check out the Danger Zone version from the old Spectrum Holobyte game "Top Gun: Fire at will". Sung by Mary Elizabeth MacGlynn , the intro to that game is absolutely gorgeous too.

  • @dixievfd55
    @dixievfd55 2 года назад +1

    His wings are shaking because he's over his rated max speed.

  • @Dumbrarere
    @Dumbrarere 2 года назад

    Jingles. Judging by the IAS indicator being red, I believe the wing wobble is a phenomenon called Aeroelastic Flutter. War Thunder does not model the phenomenon well enough, but once the wobble starts, it only progressively gets worse. Unless you can get the wobble under control, it will ultimately lead to the destruction of your aircraft.

  • @RedXlV
    @RedXlV 2 года назад

    As far as Iran's fleet of F-14? While they did indeed run out of AIM-54 Phoenix after the US stopped providing replacements, Iran has managed a couple of work-arounds. First thing they did was convert the MIM-23 Hawk into an air-to-air missile. This was a brief stopgap, since the Tomcat could only carry two of them (they'd fit on the underwing hardpoints, but not on the fuselage hardpoints). The permanent solution was reverse-engineering the AIM-54 (probably incorporating some MIM-23 components) to create the Fakour-90. Which apparently has about 40km shorter range than the Phoenix, but still better than anything else Iran has in their inventory.

  • @slimj091
    @slimj091 2 года назад

    You could say that Nomadic Warrior was on a highway... (takes off glasses) to the danger zone.

  • @cdrnav
    @cdrnav 2 года назад

    He’s swept wing and in burner the whole time? He’ll be outa gas in minutes.

  • @geoffreyrichardson8738
    @geoffreyrichardson8738 2 года назад

    Yeh back in my NAVY days, we had a saying “if it flies, it dies” he died

  • @edtrine8692
    @edtrine8692 2 года назад

    The main intended target of the Phoenix missile used by the Iranians when they got it was the recon version of the Mig-25!

  • @02091992able
    @02091992able 2 года назад

    Fox One- Guided missile. Fox Two- heat seeking self-guiding missile. Fox Three long range radar guided missile.

  • @akotada8443
    @akotada8443 2 года назад

    Jingles the wing vibration is due to high speed. If you are carrying to much speed the wing will have the airflow is being distributed over the wing causing that affect.

  • @SticksEasty
    @SticksEasty 2 года назад +2

    More warthunder lol, please o mighty overlord we can never get enough of your commentary.

  • @cdrnav
    @cdrnav 2 года назад

    AIM 54 was built to take out Soviet bombers inbound to carrier. Meant to hit them before they could launch.

  • @denmalski
    @denmalski 2 года назад

    Fun fact, Judas Priest was to supply the opening credit theme song with Reckless off the Turbo album.......they said no as they thought the movie wouldn't do well..,....oops👍

  • @MMuraseofSandvich
    @MMuraseofSandvich 2 года назад

    2:45 They typically don't put inserted songs in opening credits. Ending credits, sure, they would've had Kenny's name there unless someone royally screwed up (that would be grounds for a lawsuit). There _might_ have been some precedent for putting his name in the opening credits, but that's an "above the line" sort of thing where the studio would have to pay out millions of dollars. Lady Gaga and Hans Zimmer can drive that kind of dough and are probably heavily involved in the soundtrack, but Loggins, despite his iconic performance of "Danger Zone", is really only known for that one song.
    I get it, but at the same time, I know _just_ enough about this where this is a "yeah, no, that's not a thing."

  • @TheThomSirveaux
    @TheThomSirveaux 2 года назад

    Just gonna chime in here to say that music credits for film are only for people who wrote/composed/performed the film for that particular film, even though other songs may be included; if a song was recorded separately (such as including a popular song by a current artist), those are credited at the end of the film.
    This is because in order to actually get your name put in the specific credits for Producing, editing, or composing for a film, you need to be a member of the associated guild/union that presides over those aspects of film making.
    It's weird.

  • @Heldermaior
    @Heldermaior Год назад

    9 kills in a tomcat? Wow... He might've actually covered the repair costs in that match.

  • @violetsapphire952
    @violetsapphire952 2 года назад

    The little known F14C variant of the Tomcat demonstrating its unique Ornithopter propulsion system in today's video.

  • @JoeDirte157
    @JoeDirte157 2 года назад

    The opening for War Thunder is so nostalgic for me - brings me back to 2013/2014 when jingles was hard on WarThunder

  • @Robert-re2kz
    @Robert-re2kz 2 года назад

    I think the wing jiggle was less due to a glitch and more because he was just blasting around on afterburners the whole match.

  • @armorhide406
    @armorhide406 2 года назад +1

    Bit of a heartbreak ending but god damn that was impressive

  • @Sanderlee
    @Sanderlee 2 года назад

    I figure the wing-flutter is actually a super-secret Top Gun: Maverick cross-over with Dune.

  • @GrummanBearcat
    @GrummanBearcat 2 года назад +2

    Now this game has F14s and Zero's - we need a Final Countdown game mode

  • @commandershepard4471
    @commandershepard4471 2 года назад +1

    Could you feature some ground battle replays with some tanks in War Thunder? I love your WOT replays and WT has more details in it that I think you could expand upon quite nicely! Thanks Jingles!

  • @saintgordon338
    @saintgordon338 2 года назад

    The wobbeling wings are a feature not a bug. He is on low altitude with thick air and he is deeeeeep in the red zone of his air speed. if he would go slower the wings would stop wobbeling.
    And his Loadout is 6 Sparrow and 2 Sidewinders.
    The Sidewinders of the F14 is not all aspect.
    He only fired a Sidewinder once. The rest were all Sparrows.
    The replay sadly dosnt show the radar lock on.

  • @jimmiarreltherford8464
    @jimmiarreltherford8464 2 года назад

    So a few points: (1) the missles he was shooting in the first 5 minutes were the Sparrows (from the belly of the plane). (2) Wingtip shaking is a feature of the game. It's basically a visual queue for when a plane is about to overspeed. If you look at his speed in the top left corner, he was "redlining". All planes (far as I know) in game do this.

  • @firesyde424
    @firesyde424 2 года назад

    I've lost count of how many WT videos this year. I think the only plausible explanation is that Gaijin have kidnapped Jingles and replaced him with a robot.

  • @c3po1986
    @c3po1986 2 года назад

    Loved that Star Citizen fortune telling 🤣🤣

  • @Karelwolfpup
    @Karelwolfpup 2 года назад

    very nicely done, good little cricket run on that one, should be proud of himself ^w^

  • @chrisdurham109
    @chrisdurham109 2 года назад

    Jingles really needs to go up with @GrowlingSidewinder as his Jester. That would be AMAZING!

  • @MrEcoho
    @MrEcoho 2 года назад

    small correction, the F-35 is not meant to replace the F-18 super hornet or even the later versions of the F-15 but mostly the F-16s for the navy and the harrier for the marines. the USAF has a much smaller number of the plane because they quite frankly have better options for air superiority in the F-22 and a better bomber in the B-2.
    in reality the F-35 was more developed for our allies than for use by the US as a 5th generation fighter because the US cant and wont sell the F-22.

  • @HuMaNise34
    @HuMaNise34 2 года назад

    When you suddenly became an ace combat protagonist in a nutshell minus the plot armour

  • @FalbertForester
    @FalbertForester 2 года назад

    For a while, I thought that this was going to be something like the movie "The Final Countdown" - with the opening of War Thunder with that flight of Japanese floatplanes, I thought the next scene would be F-14s splashing them as fast as they could fire. Hahaha!

  • @bothellkenmore
    @bothellkenmore 2 года назад +1

    I'm looking forward to seeing the Blue Angels this year at Seattle's Seafair and their new F-18 Super Hornets.

  • @KorbinX
    @KorbinX 2 года назад

    2047? Only a few more War Thunder videos until the Vulcans come to visit ^-^
    Thank you for the Video

  • @clintcorpceo
    @clintcorpceo 2 года назад

    Wing shake is to represent the aircraft approaching its top speed at that altitude I think.

  • @irishwind1971
    @irishwind1971 2 года назад

    The US Navy did fire two AIM-54s in anger in 1999. But due to reasons, the engines never ignited.