Constructive Feedback: 1.Pounds/Horsepower would have been a much more relatable measure to show the results. A 4300 lb car with 355 horsepower would have to carry 12.11 pounds per each horsepower that it produced whereas a 3800 lb car with the same 355 horsepower only has to carry only 10.07 pounds for each horsepower it makes. This is a much more easily understood and relatable measure. 2. A chart showing the final results would have been nice. A picture is worth a thousand words so to speak as all those numbers and models are not easily remembered throughout the presentation.
I love the plaid because the power is through the whole powerband it's always there it never stops. It makes peak power at about 80 mph all the way up to 200. No shifting no loss in shifting.
I know we are talking about new cars, but C5 and C6 corvettes are great for performance on a budget. The C6 Z06 has to be my favorite car under 40k. 505 hp and only 3130 pounds puts power to weight at 0.161 right with a new zl1 camaro. Plus they still look great and can make big power with simple mods.
My FBO Q50 weighs 3820 and I've been able to run 10.96. Wish it weighed much less. I really enjoy watching your videos when I'm not posting mine. BTW you sound like a super hero 😅
Nice job, RacerX! Glad you included Koenigsegg, he (they) make some neat cars. And somehow, I hadn't heard of SSC Tuatara before so, I learned something which is cool.
Hands down? What metric are you using, the RT? The Challenger RT gets knocked silly by the Mustang GT or Camaro SS. The base Mustang GT and LT1 Camaro are around 37k with 455-460 horsepower. The Scat Pack starts at 42k, for 25 more horse than the Mustang. The Camaro and Mustang are the hands down winners of this, not the Challenger/Dodge.
@@nicholaswidlewski8876 it's more than just hp. The Scat Pack has a big torque advantage. I know the regular scat is difficult to hook up at times, but if you go with the 1320 trim, it fixes alot of those issues.
'04 durango with the 5.7l v8 (330 HP, 370 ft-lbs. TQ, and ~5k lbs.) has a ratio of about 0.065, but can still scoot up to 60 mph in 7ish seconds, not bad for a 17 year old suv imo. :)
I can't understand the way you are calculating. It should be this. Dodge Challenger Scat Pack. 4,300 lbs ÷ 485 horsepower. 8.87. So you have 8.87 lbs per every 1 horsepower. 8.87/1. Power to weight ratio.
Did you take into account the Competition package for the 2021 M3/m4? it raises the HP to "505" and it technically is the "base" package if you want the automatic. AS always in typical BMW fashion it dynoed at about what it should make at the crank. I have a 2022 M3 Xdrive and with just a jb4 piggyback I ran 10.8 with a passenger lol on 93 pump.
@@paulsdeep5598 It's worth it, definitely option the carbon bucket seats and the full leather. Makes the interior night and day different. Only way to get these things is to order. I put a deposit in April I didn't get get a allocation to build until end of June. Car was built and shipped in July and I took delivery on August 12th. So it's a bit of a wait, but the xdrive m3s are crackhead fast.
Yea that Shelby 500 is no joke but the recent prices take it well over 100k with mark up and taxes so idk if it should be in this category just like the CT5 V Blackwing and the super stock which can also go well over the 100k mark. For something well under 100k I think the Camaro ZL1 1LE is the best bet. Also what about the Type R and the Subaru WRX STI, shouldn’t those be under the 40k mark?
Hey racer X what do you think about these Camaros and mustangs and chargers if they went to an all wheel drive set up. Would that change the world I guess or would it make much of a difference you think. I they would start competing with super cars
The electrics hava an advantage that they how a power level and not a curve.. gas engines have to make more than the electrics up top to compensate... ive been a firm believer that engines should be rated on average horsepower not max horsepower.
I have a 21 Charger GT AWD and a 20 Durango GT AWD and my Durango feels a little faster but much quicker if that makes sense in comparison to my Charger. I'm no expert but I wonder if the Durangos 50/50 even weight distribution has anything to do with it.
@@paulelliott682 It exists and has been driven. Famed engine builder Steve Morris custom built the v16 quad turbo by joining two LS v8s engines together. Every component in the engine is exotic and custom. Its been dyno tested as well on video.
For performance challenger when you look at weight it blows them away Ford does a good job in engine and drive line balance the double over head cam revs so much higher that's where they get performance and a lower gear ratio if it had a 3.09 or 2.62 it would be a slow dog if dodge put a 3.70 or 3.73 it would mop the floor with them prime example early vipers had 3.70 gear ratio they killed vetts up to 170 mph then they run out of gear then the vette would pass it.
They could tune it for 400hp out of the box but if they leave the PCM unlocked, let us have some fun and take it over 450hp just tuning it That's all it takes
@@dtruth5769 BMW 550i 650i 750i 850i. Example 2021 BMW M850i 523HP 553TQ (N63 Engine Twin Turbo Charged V8) Every year since the N63 release in 2010 has had more TQ then HP.
@@registrationaccount1034 Again it's in a heavy minority, that cars have more torq than HP. As you've demonstrated in only using 1 manufacture. Also side not 550 twin turbo has more hp than torq. But again cars mostly have more hp than torque.
@@dtruth5769 No bmw 550 with the N63 Variant has more hp than tq. All twin turbo v8 bmws ever produced that end in 50 (ie 550 650 750 850) are N63 based V8 Twin Turbos. The same n63 is used across all ?50 models. Granted most gas cars are historically more hp than tq. But with v8 turbo charging its always going to be more tq than hp. Unless tuned somehow not to be.
Mid range CAMARO IS KING. I caught on to you already. Your a mopar and Ford guy. Chevy is last to you. Let’s fight 😂 Ps camaro has equal hp and tq. My 2010 SS WHIPPLE 530rwhp and 550rwtq. Pssss 😂 who keeps the car stock
I was actually thinking to get the camero lt1, but decided on the mustang gt because it seems like it's way easier to make huge power without having to open the engine. I'm still waiting on delivery, but I'm already collecting mods!
I love the camaro and loved the trans am! As a dad and foster daddy I cannot cart my kids around in it lol unfortunately! My wide body scatpack fits me perfectly and on top of that still looks sharp. Maybe when I retire I can get a Camaro 6.2 L
@@Andrew3455 , I'd be happy with any of the big three: Camaro LT1, Challenger 392, or Mustang GT. All of them hit above their weight class, look great, and can give you that lovin' feeling. Heck, I'm jealous of your 392 Scatpack. They're great looking, roomy, and put you back in your seat nicely.
@@turbovolvos40 Spot on. I own an LT1 and don't regret it for a second. If, like you, mods were a big consideration the Mustang 5.0 is cheaper to mod and are very fast. Have fun with the new car!
If you're really obsessed with power to weight ratios, a Shelby Cobra replica has a better power to weight ratio than most cars
Even a cobra falls to a 1923 bucket, when it comes to power to weight.
500 hp, 500 lb ft of torque, and only weighs like 2300 lbs.
Constructive Feedback:
1.Pounds/Horsepower would have been a much more relatable measure to show the results. A 4300 lb car with 355 horsepower would have to carry 12.11 pounds per each horsepower that it produced whereas a 3800 lb car with the same 355 horsepower only has to carry only 10.07 pounds for each horsepower it makes. This is a much more easily understood and relatable measure.
2. A chart showing the final results would have been nice. A picture is worth a thousand words so to speak as all those numbers and models are not easily remembered throughout the presentation.
I agree. I really like his video, but you got a good point, its easier the way you point it out.
Agreed!
That's literally a format that makes less sense. I wanna know how much power does it make per pound of weight. Not the other way around.
I love the plaid because the power is through the whole powerband it's always there it never stops. It makes peak power at about 80 mph all the way up to 200. No shifting no loss in shifting.
and one of the lowest drag cars out there if not the lowest
@@DriverJ-N it is very drag coefficient.
I know we are talking about new cars, but C5 and C6 corvettes are great for performance on a budget. The C6 Z06 has to be my favorite car under 40k. 505 hp and only 3130 pounds puts power to weight at 0.161 right with a new zl1 camaro. Plus they still look great and can make big power with simple mods.
Great content you never make a bad video. Keep it up. Best you tuber around
Thank you my friend
Arial Atom, 350 hp, 1349lbs .251 pwr to wt ratio. 0-60 2.8 sec
My FBO Q50 weighs 3820 and I've been able to run 10.96. Wish it weighed much less. I really enjoy watching your videos when I'm not posting mine. BTW you sound like a super hero 😅
Interesting numbers. Obviously as a 2020 GT500 owner I was happy to see it win its category.
Your car will go down as a collectible
And when you really get down to it, Murica just wins.
Really cool comparison video, man you really busted you behind to get all of the weight to h.p. numbers, always a interesting topic.Thanks buddy.
Power to weight ratio is why I love early 2000s factory boosted 4 bangers.
Its like a F15 fighter jet. Its engines produce more pounds of thrust than the plane weighs. Which gives one of the fastest climb rates in the world.
Awesome power to weight ratio comparison video!
GT500 for the win.. That Tesla Roadster will be a game changer in its class. Wow
Still waiting
Fantastic content as always! Great research and presentation!
I fucking love how the Americans took the cake on everything. Europe cannot say jack shit about us. 🇺🇸
Dodge for me anytime! 🙂✌ Thank you!
Nice job, RacerX! Glad you included Koenigsegg, he (they) make some neat cars. And somehow, I hadn't heard of SSC Tuatara before so, I learned something which is cool.
When it comes to affordable power, Dodge wins hands down.
And great for us tall guys too
@@Rick-fe8xn I'm 5'10" and 164 lbs. I feel like a twig in the driver's seat of my cousin's 2021 Dodge Challenger.
Most affordable I’m going mustang gt
Hands down? What metric are you using, the RT? The Challenger RT gets knocked silly by the Mustang GT or Camaro SS. The base Mustang GT and LT1 Camaro are around 37k with 455-460 horsepower. The Scat Pack starts at 42k, for 25 more horse than the Mustang. The Camaro and Mustang are the hands down winners of this, not the Challenger/Dodge.
@@nicholaswidlewski8876 it's more than just hp. The Scat Pack has a big torque advantage. I know the regular scat is difficult to hook up at times, but if you go with the 1320 trim, it fixes alot of those issues.
'04 durango with the 5.7l v8 (330 HP, 370 ft-lbs. TQ, and ~5k lbs.) has a ratio of about 0.065, but can still scoot up to 60 mph in 7ish seconds, not bad for a 17 year old suv imo. :)
Love them hemi's
That's very similar to my 99 Dakota R/T. 0-60 in 6.9 according to contemporary tests. Awesome holeshot, but gets HUNTED after half-track.
Hey Racer X. What about the Alfa Romeo Giulia quadrifoglio making 505 and the Gtma version is even better power?
C7 z06 is .183. My 3lz clocked under 100k. Weighs 3542 has 650hp
I can't understand the way you are calculating. It should be this. Dodge Challenger Scat Pack. 4,300 lbs ÷ 485 horsepower. 8.87. So you have 8.87 lbs per every 1 horsepower. 8.87/1. Power to weight ratio.
Did you take into account the Competition package for the 2021 M3/m4? it raises the HP to "505" and it technically is the "base" package if you want the automatic. AS always in typical BMW fashion it dynoed at about what it should make at the crank.
I have a 2022 M3 Xdrive and with just a jb4 piggyback I ran 10.8 with a passenger lol on 93 pump.
I'm really looking into the m4 competition. Just got to get rid of my rs5 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@paulsdeep5598 It's worth it, definitely option the carbon bucket seats and the full leather. Makes the interior night and day different.
Only way to get these things is to order.
I put a deposit in April I didn't get get a allocation to build until end of June. Car was built and shipped in July and I took delivery on August 12th. So it's a bit of a wait, but the xdrive m3s are crackhead fast.
These figures make me marvel at what a 8000 hp Top Fuel’s hp to wt. ratio is !!
Great video bro
What about the Ariel Atom v8
Caterham 620R: You peasants I only way a mere 1,200 pounders with 310hp.
I know it's not new but you didn't mention the one to 1
Fun video , lots to think about
Yea that Shelby 500 is no joke but the recent prices take it well over 100k with mark up and taxes so idk if it should be in this category just like the CT5 V Blackwing and the super stock which can also go well over the 100k mark. For something well under 100k I think the Camaro ZL1 1LE is the best bet. Also what about the Type R and the Subaru WRX STI, shouldn’t those be under the 40k mark?
Awesome video. 👌
What about the alfa Romeo 4c?
If its limited quantity it shouldn't be qualified under " production vehicle"
When are we getting hats in the store
Built my subaru and has a ratio of .194
3300lbs at 642hp
I'm looking up tips for the Gran Turismo 7 video game and keep finding the real thing. Game is too legit😂
🐍🐍🐍🐍👍🏿
Met you in Dallas at the donkmaster and demonology show ‼️💪🏽
It was good to meet you my friend
@@RacerX9 - You don’t remember him. Admit it. 😃
Whatever happened to pounds to horsepower ?
Safety regulations & unnecessary “luxury”
Got replaced by kW/ton@@WarriorOfEden3033
Hey racer X what do you think about these Camaros and mustangs and chargers if they went to an all wheel drive set up. Would that change the world I guess or would it make much of a difference you think. I they would start competing with super cars
Did you mention the zr1
did you watch the video
@@Djquinn17 yes but not all. I dont have time to watch it I only saw the important parts
@@Djquinn17 he also forgot the 2014 ss Chevy!
You forgot the Maclearn F1😉😉
I like Tesla Plaid I need one
Want*
The electrics hava an advantage that they how a power level and not a curve.. gas engines have to make more than the electrics up top to compensate... ive been a firm believer that engines should be rated on average horsepower not max horsepower.
I believe they need to be rated at what they're actually capable of like normal as always.
@@ryze9153 look at what you wrote... peak power doesn't mean much if the car makes 27 ft lbs of torque from 1-8krpm.
@@yolofullsend lol
C7 Corvette 650hp 3523lb = .184
Gee, I wonder why crotch rockets are faster than pretty much every car on the road? Hmmmm
I have a 21 Charger GT AWD and a 20 Durango GT AWD and my Durango feels a little faster but much quicker if that makes sense in comparison to my Charger. I'm no expert but I wonder if the Durangos 50/50 even weight distribution has anything to do with it.
Couldn't say for sure since I didn't look it up but I bet your Durango may be tuned for higher torque and maybe lower hp.
Probably weight transfer not actually faster
does putting an 800 hp engine in a light car a good idea
Moe power
Not necessarily if it’s not engineered for it
@@RacerX9 if it is
Itll just slide all over the place why do u think u never see high hp hondas or miatas often they'll break they're drivetrains
@@just_a5.7 it’s something else
How are you gonna do a best power to weight ratio and not even mention the koenigsegg one
valkyrie?
Check out the Koenigsegg 1 to 1
How about the Koenigsegg 1:1, literally power to weight ratio is 1. You included the agera don't know why you missed the 1:1
The One:1 goes with Kilograms per HP.
@@Djquinn17 wait so which one is used in this video? I swear these Americans are gonna make me eat my brain
@@Sailuz RacerX uses lbs per HP in the video.
You forgot the Devel Sixteen
50007HP / 5070lbs = .988 power to weight ratio.
@@paulelliott682 It exists and has been driven. Famed engine builder Steve Morris custom built the v16 quad turbo by joining two LS v8s engines together. Every component in the engine is exotic and custom. Its been dyno tested as well on video.
Any updates that the car exists 🤣
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Funny how certain people keep pushing EV's on everyone when there isn't an EV that costs less than 40K. Most people can barely afford a shitbox.
For performance challenger when you look at weight it blows them away Ford does a good job in engine and drive line balance the double over head cam revs so much higher that's where they get performance and a lower gear ratio if it had a 3.09 or 2.62 it would be a slow dog if dodge put a 3.70 or 3.73 it would mop the floor with them prime example early vipers had 3.70 gear ratio they killed vetts up to 170 mph then they run out of gear then the vette would pass it.
The rimec almost looks like a nsx
Ford detuned the 2022 GT back 450 to meet emissions
😢
Retune it. Fight the man.
They could tune it for 400hp out of the box but if they leave the PCM unlocked, let us have some fun and take it over 450hp just tuning it
That's all it takes
It's very rare a car makes more torque than HP. Especially in a gas engine.
Its the norm for v8 twin turbos. Germams in particular like BMW Audi Mercedes. Thats why they destroy many cars that have more HP.
@@registrationaccount1034
Which gas bmw and mercs are u referring to.
@@dtruth5769 BMW 550i 650i 750i 850i. Example 2021 BMW M850i 523HP 553TQ (N63 Engine Twin Turbo Charged V8) Every year since the N63 release in 2010 has had more TQ then HP.
@@registrationaccount1034
Again it's in a heavy minority, that cars have more torq than HP. As you've demonstrated in only using 1 manufacture. Also side not 550 twin turbo has more hp than torq. But again cars mostly have more hp than torque.
@@dtruth5769 No bmw 550 with the N63 Variant has more hp than tq. All twin turbo v8 bmws ever produced that end in 50 (ie 550 650 750 850) are N63 based V8 Twin Turbos. The same n63 is used across all ?50 models. Granted most gas cars are historically more hp than tq. But with v8 turbo charging its always going to be more tq than hp. Unless tuned somehow not to be.
Mid range CAMARO IS KING.
I caught on to you already. Your a mopar and Ford guy. Chevy is last to you.
Let’s fight 😂
Ps camaro has equal hp and tq. My 2010 SS WHIPPLE 530rwhp and 550rwtq.
Pssss 😂 who keeps the car stock
I was actually thinking to get the camero lt1, but decided on the mustang gt because it seems like it's way easier to make huge power without having to open the engine. I'm still waiting on delivery, but I'm already collecting mods!
I love the camaro and loved the trans am! As a dad and foster daddy I cannot cart my kids around in it lol unfortunately! My wide body scatpack fits me perfectly and on top of that still looks sharp. Maybe when I retire I can get a Camaro 6.2 L
@@Andrew3455 , I'd be happy with any of the big three: Camaro LT1, Challenger 392, or Mustang GT.
All of them hit above their weight class, look great, and can give you that lovin' feeling.
Heck, I'm jealous of your 392 Scatpack. They're great looking, roomy, and put you back in your seat nicely.
@@turbovolvos40 Spot on. I own an LT1 and don't regret it for a second. If, like you, mods were a big consideration the Mustang 5.0 is cheaper to mod and are very fast. Have fun with the new car!