The USB-C cable doesn't bother me as much, I use them already on a lot of my rig builds to power TX sometimes, with a right-angle USB-C to P-Tap which is less normally easy to knock out during filming. Been waiting to replace my Nucleus-M kit with something, and my Vaxis TX/RX system...I love that DJI has aligned all these products for me to potentially just transition to their eco-system.
Back when the Ronin 4D came out, it was the Lidar focus system that I thought was the most exciting feature. I wasn't that fussed about the actual R4D, I just wanted them to release the focus system as a stand alone product. I'm excited they've finally done it.
Not having the height adjustment makes no sense to me. I loved the system, but thats just insane. Thats just a must have for FIZ motors. Can i control the Nucleus-M and Nano with that focus unit?
Based on your review the things I don't like are the "percentage" on the screen for distance, the non-adjustable height on the motors, the usb-c that doesn't lock, and only two marks with the A/B button. I think I'll keep my Nucleus-M for now but if they adjust the issues for a mark 2 then I'll dive in.
Thank you for the info! But what about the mount for the high bright monitor? As far as I know, it's not included. DJI doesn't sell one and I can't find it anywhere. There even seems to be an electronic connection piece on the top, so you need the monitor mount to communicate to the monitor?
I was hoping for an Hi5 budget option, but something is missing here. Right now i have an Nucleus M and i am not happy. Hopefully there will be a Nucleus M V2.
This is SOOO CLOSE. the lidar stuff is sick and I may pick up a creator kit, but the actual fiz system is lacking some refinement. I'm really torn because this feels like something that may be worth the early adopter tax. Part of me wants to purchase this and just hope that we will get better motors and control units in the future, But DJI has a history of dropping support for legacy products when they release an updated version.
If it was priced more aggresively it would alarm a lot of 1st ACs. A reliable LIDAR system that allows you to take control only when you need it for a creative focus pull makes the job extremely simple.
I like my DJI focus pro better than my PD movie Live Air 3 because one can focus on any subject in the room, not just the closest one to the camera. Even more important though is that I never liked the PD movie Live Air 3 relying on beeping sounds in various combinations to calibrate the lens. The DJI makes calibration super simple by guiding one step by step with English language prompts.
wow for a company as dji and a products that not really that cheap these fllaws are a nogo for me. no high adjustment option is a banger. I need constantly to adjust for different size of lenses. also a usb c cable is not really professional tbh. Really unfortunate. maybe Version 2 will be better
I agree about the usb-c connection. DJI keeps underestimating the concept of solidity, they have been using this consumer connectors since ever, and that's a pity, for a unit that has such amazing features. Lemo is industry standard. And it wouldn't even set the price particularly higher, as chinese replicas are very very cheap and absolutely solid enough.
@@CineDailies if the usbc ports were at least oriented differently so the cable comes down instead of out it wouldnt be so bad. but i cannot have my motors with usbc cables sticking straight out. such an unfortunate design choice. would have loved to be able to sell my rt kit and grab something cheaper since i almost never get my full kit fee anymore, and i cant stand the nucleus so was excited to see a potential budget contender. but this form factor just screams accident waiting to happen. i get theyre aiming for the more consumer/solo shooter market where you can just have the producer/director/pa jump on the wheel if necessary, plug and play is obviously their whole thing. but even the nucleus uses lemo cables which have locking mechanisms and more robust port housing. these motors have no height adjustment, and no ability to swap out the gears for something thicker for lenses that travel along the focus throw. these are all things that the nucleus has at a cheaper price point.
They really need to release motors with 2 pin lemo and height adjustments. A bunch of USB-C cables are just unacceptable on more professional cinema builds. I was hoping this can finally replace the Tilta Nucleus on indie sets but they always drop the ball on these key details
also im a bit worried about r/s trigger for arri/red etc (i think 2 pin wouldnt work anyways bc thats just power, smth more like the 7 pin from tilta🤓☝️)
First off, great review. I’m a full time 1st AC, honestly, this system info dropped last week and I got intrigued, but the more I look into it the less excited I am about it. The LiDAR thing may be cool, not sure yet. But the USB-C power, no support for 19mm rods, bad height adjusters, and the suspicious $150 price tag make the motors feel like a weak link in the ecosystem. You had to use mid torque on Vista Primes, but those lenses are some of the easiest to turn, I’d like to see how this thing does in a stiff lens environment, a more common situation with AC’s on set with random gear. My buddy’s round front Lomo Anamorphics need all the torque they can get lol. The hand unit seems pretty cool, similar to the CTRL.3 but feeling cheaper. I’ve pulled with most FIZ’s that exist currently, low to high end. This still feels lower to me than the Nucleus-M for price point. The Nucleus-M still seems like my option of choice for this price range. I’ve also literally pulled with that thing hundreds of hours a year for 7 years. The trick with motors, is use them with 19mm rods. That would be my wisdom to bestow to others 🤣 ultimate combo with any motors of any brand: Arri RMB-8 on cam, BT Titanium 19mm rod, motor with the 19mm bracket (adapter taken off). It’ll make everything pull right. I’ve used that on everything from old Cooke Speed Panchros to Super Baltars, Zeiss Super Speeds, Mk II’s, and Lomos. All pro lenses that are very commonly old housings and are stiff. You could probably spin a Master Prime or Signature Prime with this DJI new motor, but I don’t have hope for it in the high torque need environment
This Focus Pro gas already a no go for me over the Tilta Nucleus for all the reasons you mentioned here like usb c cables, no motor height adjustment, no 19mm rod compatibility, and many more. You can tell they made this with little to no input from career 1st ACs in the field
The USB-C cable doesn't bother me as much, I use them already on a lot of my rig builds to power TX sometimes, with a right-angle USB-C to P-Tap which is less normally easy to knock out during filming. Been waiting to replace my Nucleus-M kit with something, and my Vaxis TX/RX system...I love that DJI has aligned all these products for me to potentially just transition to their eco-system.
This might be for you!
Back when the Ronin 4D came out, it was the Lidar focus system that I thought was the most exciting feature. I wasn't that fussed about the actual R4D, I just wanted them to release the focus system as a stand alone product. I'm excited they've finally done it.
The pdmovie pro was supposed to be the revolutionary item for filming and now DJI has put their foot down! Very competitive! Good video
Yeah i plan on doing a head to head video
Not having the height adjustment makes no sense to me. I loved the system, but thats just insane. Thats just a must have for FIZ motors. Can i control the Nucleus-M and Nano with that focus unit?
Odd, this didn’t show on my timeline. I had to go to your channel to view.
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
Based on your review the things I don't like are the "percentage" on the screen for distance, the non-adjustable height on the motors, the usb-c that doesn't lock, and only two marks with the A/B button. I think I'll keep my Nucleus-M for now but if they adjust the issues for a mark 2 then I'll dive in.
Looks like the secret zoom lens is 17-35 or 36 t2.9. My guess is laowa. Because of blue ring
Haha you'll see at the end of this month
Thanks for the shout out … appreciated ;-)
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Thank you for the info! But what about the mount for the high bright monitor? As far as I know, it's not included. DJI doesn't sell one and I can't find it anywhere. There even seems to be an electronic connection piece on the top, so you need the monitor mount to communicate to the monitor?
Not bad for DJI’s ecosystem, they do a solid job taking feedback and making adjustments so who knows where it’ll go from here 🤔🤷🏾♂️
I was hoping for an Hi5 budget option, but something is missing here. Right now i have an Nucleus M and i am not happy. Hopefully there will be a Nucleus M V2.
Does the knob has hard-stops, or does it spin infinitely? Someone said that on Reddit, but I wasn’t sure.
This is going to huge for me. Auto focus on my big tokina cines is huge door opened as a solo op
True
beautiful ~have a good day, Cine!📹
Thank you!
So if I own an RS3 Pro, do I just need to purchase the lidar and focus motor?
Yep
With the Canon Cine cameras not having Bluetooth, how will the handheld focus pro work
You don't need bluetooth to use the hand unit. It's a more traditional FIZ unit
This is SOOO CLOSE. the lidar stuff is sick and I may pick up a creator kit, but the actual fiz system is lacking some refinement.
I'm really torn because this feels like something that may be worth the early adopter tax. Part of me wants to purchase this and just hope that we will get better motors and control units in the future, But DJI has a history of dropping support for legacy products when they release an updated version.
If it was priced more aggresively it would alarm a lot of 1st ACs. A reliable LIDAR system that allows you to take control only when you need it for a creative focus pull makes the job extremely simple.
Do you think it is to expensive ? It is nothing compared to the prices as of established eq
I like my DJI focus pro better than my PD movie Live Air 3 because one can focus on any subject in the room, not just the closest one to the camera. Even more important though is that I never liked the PD movie Live Air 3 relying on beeping sounds in various combinations to calibrate the lens. The DJI makes calibration super simple by guiding one step by step with English language prompts.
wow for a company as dji and a products that not really that cheap these fllaws are a nogo for me. no high adjustment option is a banger. I need constantly to adjust for different size of lenses. also a usb c cable is not really professional tbh. Really unfortunate. maybe Version 2 will be better
Can it be used at same time as raveneye? That seemed to be an issue with the old lidar
The lidar? Yes, but watch media division review on it
I agree about the usb-c connection. DJI keeps underestimating the concept of solidity, they have been using this consumer connectors since ever, and that's a pity, for a unit that has such amazing features. Lemo is industry standard. And it wouldn't even set the price particularly higher, as chinese replicas are very very cheap and absolutely solid enough.
what is that teradek transmitter on the xh2s?
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USB-C and no height adjustment is a deal breaker for me. Which sucks as i'm almost all in on the DJI ecosystem now.
Yeah its tough. Wish they didn't go that way smh
If you are in the DJI eco system as you wrote, usb-c is not a problem. 😊
@@d_FLDE redo system?
How can I calibrate lens without hard stop?
You'll most likely do it manually
usbc integration will always make me nervous in a professional setting. usb ports and cables are fragile and can tend to be unreliable.
I completely agree
@@CineDailies if the usbc ports were at least oriented differently so the cable comes down instead of out it wouldnt be so bad. but i cannot have my motors with usbc cables sticking straight out. such an unfortunate design choice. would have loved to be able to sell my rt kit and grab something cheaper since i almost never get my full kit fee anymore, and i cant stand the nucleus so was excited to see a potential budget contender. but this form factor just screams accident waiting to happen. i get theyre aiming for the more consumer/solo shooter market where you can just have the producer/director/pa jump on the wheel if necessary, plug and play is obviously their whole thing. but even the nucleus uses lemo cables which have locking mechanisms and more robust port housing. these motors have no height adjustment, and no ability to swap out the gears for something thicker for lenses that travel along the focus throw. these are all things that the nucleus has at a cheaper price point.
intro is so tuff
Does it work on Fuji films xH2s
It's a FIZ system. It works with any camera
budget? bro its 3 times the price of the tilta nucleus nano?
Not comparable lol but also, there are levels to budget fam. Budget doesn't mean cheap.
Google arri hi 5 and tell me wether you still think it is no budget option :)
4reel🎉Thank You
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They really need to release motors with 2 pin lemo and height adjustments. A bunch of USB-C cables are just unacceptable on more professional cinema builds. I was hoping this can finally replace the Tilta Nucleus on indie sets but they always drop the ball on these key details
also im a bit worried about r/s trigger for arri/red etc
(i think 2 pin wouldnt work anyways bc thats just power, smth more like the 7 pin from tilta🤓☝️)
I hear ya
As a professional DP agreed. This already makes it a no go for me
They needed USB-C to carry data.
@@mrshaheedmalikprb tru could be recessed deep in like some ssd or hub connections i think atomos does it .
perfect product excepted the shitty usb c port...
I know right ugh
I think we shouldnt call things master and slaves anymore
First off, great review. I’m a full time 1st AC, honestly, this system info dropped last week and I got intrigued, but the more I look into it the less excited I am about it. The LiDAR thing may be cool, not sure yet. But the USB-C power, no support for 19mm rods, bad height adjusters, and the suspicious $150 price tag make the motors feel like a weak link in the ecosystem. You had to use mid torque on Vista Primes, but those lenses are some of the easiest to turn, I’d like to see how this thing does in a stiff lens environment, a more common situation with AC’s on set with random gear. My buddy’s round front Lomo Anamorphics need all the torque they can get lol. The hand unit seems pretty cool, similar to the CTRL.3 but feeling cheaper. I’ve pulled with most FIZ’s that exist currently, low to high end. This still feels lower to me than the Nucleus-M for price point. The Nucleus-M still seems like my option of choice for this price range. I’ve also literally pulled with that thing hundreds of hours a year for 7 years.
The trick with motors, is use them with 19mm rods. That would be my wisdom to bestow to others 🤣 ultimate combo with any motors of any brand: Arri RMB-8 on cam, BT Titanium 19mm rod, motor with the 19mm bracket (adapter taken off). It’ll make everything pull right. I’ve used that on everything from old Cooke Speed Panchros to Super Baltars, Zeiss Super Speeds, Mk II’s, and Lomos. All pro lenses that are very commonly old housings and are stiff. You could probably spin a Master Prime or Signature Prime with this DJI new motor, but I don’t have hope for it in the high torque need environment
Great insight and you're right about a lot of questions this product presents. I will be doing a follow-up video on this very soon.
This Focus Pro gas already a no go for me over the Tilta Nucleus for all the reasons you mentioned here like usb c cables, no motor height adjustment, no 19mm rod compatibility, and many more. You can tell they made this with little to no input from career 1st ACs in the field