FAST LSXR INTAKE-IS IT WORTH $1000? HOW MUCH HP DOES IT ADD? LSXR VS CHEAP, JUNKYARD TRUCK INTAKE

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • LOW-BUCK, CHEAP, JUNKYARD TRUCK INTAKE VS BIG BUCKS FAST LSXR! HOW MUCH POWER IS THE FAST LSXR INTAKE WORTH ON MY LS? SHOULD I BUY IT FOR MY STOCK 4.8L OR 5.3L? FAST VS TRUCK INTAKE-WHO WINS? HOW MUCH POWER IS THE INTAKE UPGRADE WORTH ON A MODIFIED LS MOTOR? HOW TO GAIN, 10 HP, 20 HP OR EVEN 30+ HP WITH AN INTAKE UPGRADE! HOW HARD IS THE FAST INTAKE TO INSTALL? CAN THE FIRST TIMER PERFORM AN INTAKE SWAP? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I COMPARED THE FAST LSXR INTAKE AND 102-MM THROTTLE BODY TO THE STOCK (EARLY) TRUCK INTAKE (FROM THE JUNKYARD) AND MATCHING MANUAL THROTTLE BODY. HOW MUCH POWER WAS THE FAST INTAKE UPGRADE WORTH ON THE BTR-CAMMED 5.3L L33?

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  • @cryptoredneck8255
    @cryptoredneck8255 Год назад +42

    Thank you for this test. This is almost identical to my Silverado. I just can't justify the money for a intake manifold. However who doesn't love the look of a aftermarket manifold.

  • @jr78racer
    @jr78racer Год назад +53

    My takeaway from the test is that you really have to be honest with yourself about how often you’re going to be above 5000 rpm. For vehicles that see 90% street time, I would argue it’s not worth it. Of course if you’re racing, the FAST is the way to go.

    • @blow0me
      @blow0me Год назад +4

      in this case, it's more a case that the stock intake/tb just isn't a huge restriction on the small 5.3. But it is equally impressive that the FAST intake loses nothing at the low end, so it is a win win for those who are seeking to grow further down the line

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl Год назад +3

      Even w/my 04 Z06 and 6 speed used as a toy.. I really don't go full throttle over 5500 rpms all that often. It's gotta be like less than 1% of the time. ANd due to traction.. its only in 2nd and 3rd gear when on the street.

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 Год назад +1

      People spend more than $1k on wheels alone, that's nothing compared to a $1k intake upgrade thay actually offers performance.

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl Год назад +6

      @@sepg5084 ya-but... that performance is only seen a few times. That is... unless your like I was when I was 16yrs old 😆

    • @loganrolling2536
      @loganrolling2536 9 месяцев назад +1

      My 03 Silverado sees over 5k very often lol

  • @deankay4434
    @deankay4434 2 месяца назад +3

    So a modified 5.3L, $1,000 intake, $514 for throttle body, $398 for cam & lifters, you gain HP & torque = $633 per 3 hp, 42 lbs ft torque is very small gain! Got it.
    My 1,510 house is valued at $440.000 which includes a 10 X 12' shed is covered for $44,000. Makes sense to me to pay $428 per month on homeowners even though it hasn't grown larger! Since 92.
    Excise me while I throw up..

  • @lucasmullins5100
    @lucasmullins5100 Год назад +9

    Don't forget the Fast just looks nicer as well so more power, better looks and more room to grow made it worth while to me. I was guessing about 20 HP on my 5.3 with a cam.

  • @gmontoya5307
    @gmontoya5307 Год назад +9

    You are the man brother.... God bless for all that you do for your community... Love all your videos...

  • @BobbyD75
    @BobbyD75 Год назад +3

    $2000 + for 30 hp just turbo it . Love your work . Thank you saves people tons of money and work .

    • @james10739
      @james10739 2 месяца назад

      Is it $2000 I thought he said it was $1000 which is about what I have seen

    • @BobbyD75
      @BobbyD75 2 месяца назад

      1200 for the intake all new gaskets tuning and all the extras to add the intake

  • @ttsupra87
    @ttsupra87 Год назад +6

    Literally just went full bore heads, cams, 102mm intake could weeks back. Looks like it was a good choice. Thanks for the test and all your hard work man!

    • @boost1728
      @boost1728 Год назад +1

      Multiple cam LS? Interesting

    • @UBeesh10
      @UBeesh10 6 месяцев назад

      Cams lol

  • @button-puncher
    @button-puncher Год назад +1

    A grand for gains only over 5150? Yeah, nah. Not for a daily.
    Thanks again Richard. Giving us the best info in where to spend our hard earned monies.

  • @BigHeinen
    @BigHeinen Год назад +12

    Same takeaway I came up with. For a street rod or street truck application you will rarely see over 4500RPM anyway. In this test there was virtually no difference in HP or torque clear to 5,000. That $1,000+ will go a long way in other areas of your project build. Just my opinion and as always YMMV.

  • @JustChuck
    @JustChuck Год назад +16

    TBSS intake would have been an interesting comparison.

    • @r3d1911
      @r3d1911 Год назад

      Eeexxxaaactly what I was thinking

    • @moabman6803
      @moabman6803 Год назад

      He has done that already in another video

    • @DeathStalkerAlpha
      @DeathStalkerAlpha Год назад +3

      The 2007-14 NBS truck manifold is the same as the TBSS manifold.

    • @chriswise1232
      @chriswise1232 Год назад

      And then port the TBSS

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Год назад +1

      You mean Gen 4 Truck Intake

  • @gofastparts4u
    @gofastparts4u Год назад +20

    It's too bad the price of the Dorman LS2 skyrocketed. If I recall correctly, it made damn good power, not quite what the FAST makes, but close enough considering the cost, at the time anyway. Now they're almost as expensive as this intake if you can even find one.

    • @vans1107
      @vans1107 Год назад +5

      if you've got this engine in a truck you would be better off going with a NBSS/TBSS intake, much cheaper than the dorman LS2 and makes the same power. In fact there's really no point in even considering the Dorman anymore since the price is over a grand now..if you're spending that much you might as well spend the extra couple hundred and buy the significantly better FAST 102.

    • @Turbogto_guy
      @Turbogto_guy Год назад +5

      Damn. I could make money on my dorman. I bought one early on. Think I paid under $300. Anything more than that is a ripoff. It’s really a piece of shit.

    • @lik_2x435
      @lik_2x435 7 месяцев назад

      A

  • @Long-nd8bq
    @Long-nd8bq Год назад +2

    I wouldn't spend the money on the TB, Intake, and Fuel rails until you already maximized your combo with cam, valve springs, converters, gears, tune. Doing this intake/tb/fuel rail on a mostly stock setup that maybe only has headers and a y-pipe this would be money well spent elsewhere and you'd get gapped by a cammed truck or one with a higher stall converter. This would be a good upgrade if you already have the other stuff and just want a little more out of your combo, but I'd probably get a set of ported heads and swap it all on at the same time. Also, can get good gains from a TBSS / later model truck intake swap and you can find those in a junkyard and get it for under $100 if you can find one and remove it yourself.

  • @scotttimpany2845
    @scotttimpany2845 Год назад +1

    Blaster! Since 1957. Master Blaster since July 1985

  • @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
    @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great test... This shows it'll shine up top and not kill street manners. And if it's not going to live in the upper RPMs, then it's not necessary...
    That's where a good TBSS intake would shine great at.
    This intake would definitely be great on a bigger motor with good flowing heads as well. But then you get to the point of, when do you just go turbo and keep it more budget friendly. 😁

  • @simpleman2004
    @simpleman2004 Год назад +2

    I cut the mounting tabs off of a stock truck fuel rail and made some brackets to hold the rails down, LS7 injectors with spacers.

  • @genemounce8302
    @genemounce8302 Год назад +4

    The faces you make bruh,. LMAO.. #priceless ! Merry Christmas to you and yours Rich.

  • @builditinyourgarage7826
    @builditinyourgarage7826 Год назад +2

    Yet another great comparison video. I believe this video is another example to show where to spend your money based on your end result of the combination you want to do.

  • @bertmorlas3534
    @bertmorlas3534 Год назад +1

    Always a good dyno day when you see Richards Grrrr face

  • @cndctrdjful
    @cndctrdjful 6 месяцев назад +1

    I've got a 5.3 in my 84 camaro. The stock truck intake doesn't fit well under the stock hood.
    This intake fits great, also the power gain doesn't hurt. Since this is a track car, the high rpms are where it likes to live

    • @keith-jo6wg
      @keith-jo6wg 2 месяца назад

      Or where U make it live i dought it Likes it lol

  • @DM-qp7do
    @DM-qp7do Год назад +3

    Hmm 🤔since I am porting my heads along with a cam and headers.....🤔 YUP!!! SOLD👍🏁🏁🏁🏁

  • @martygrajeda3457
    @martygrajeda3457 Год назад +2

    Fast is definitely worth it!

  • @bobbywilliams5657
    @bobbywilliams5657 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks to you Richard I don't have to invest my money into an intake I will keep my stock I heard you saying one of your videos you didn't know how deep lake Tahoe 1,644ft
    👍

  • @debodang993
    @debodang993 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love all your videos on all vehicle platforms

  • @chrishansen7004
    @chrishansen7004 Год назад +4

    Seems like this manifold would be better spent on a 6.0 or a 5.3 punched out too a 5.7 where there would be a bigger requirement for more air volume and flow, a tbss is still the best manifold for a 5.3, considering that you can get ls1 pistons from summit racing for 800 bucks Canadian your money is way better spent increasing your displacement and getting the manifold later

  • @ianb3866
    @ianb3866 Год назад +3

    make a video about the 300-500 dollar intakes on Ebay and JEGS

  • @johnsheetz6639
    @johnsheetz6639 Год назад +1

    I say a LS 3 style manifold has major benefits if you want to keep your old hood in some of the lower profile hoods

  • @dresdensvo
    @dresdensvo Год назад +1

    Also never shown on a dyno graph is Looks and Hood clerance . But the dorman Ls6 does that . If it ever goes back into mass production .

  • @Mattvardaman
    @Mattvardaman Год назад +1

    The fast manifold at $1000 is $41.66/hp for 24hp. Nitrous is about $350-500 for 125/200hp. I don’t have the budget for the fast. I’ve just recently started welding so I can make my own aluminized mild steel turbo kit. I drive a truck with cam, springs, and long tube headers on e85.

  • @baldo5097
    @baldo5097 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the time and effort you put on these videos for is boss appreciate it.

  • @btchhopperou812
    @btchhopperou812 Год назад +1

    I kind of had an idea where this was going to go because my son swapped out the truck manifold for a fast manifold and the results are very similar. One thing I believe I noticed, or maybe it was in my head, but did anyone else seem to observe the fast manifold and larger throttle body made it louder? Perhaps it was just me or varying placement of the microphone or did I observe the setup becoming louder with the fast? No big deal either way as most people really don't mind a little bit of extra noise if the performance is increased as advertised. Thanks for the test Richard!

  • @derrickbailey7681
    @derrickbailey7681 Год назад +2

    I been waiting on this

  • @natricjol
    @natricjol Год назад +1

    Truck intake < TBSS (NNBS) intake < LSXRT
    Truck intake will be good for most people. LSXRT is for people pushing the limits of their build. TBSS will increase power across the room range and increase the efficiency of the mods that were already completed and give you most of the gains from the LSXRT without the cost.

  • @THEFERMANATOR
    @THEFERMANATOR Год назад +2

    I would have liked to have seen the tbss/gen iv intake thrown in to the mix. I considered a lsxrt intake, but you can pick up an lh6 out of a trailblazer cheap with a bad cam, and you get a set of 799 heads, tbss intake, and resell the aluminum 5.3l short block to get most of your money back making the heads and intake almost free.

    • @wheelbasemedia5814
      @wheelbasemedia5814 Год назад

      That test like that exists on his channel, although it's from a few years ago and on a 6.0. ruclips.net/video/a2M10LiwE7Q/видео.html&ab_channel=RichardHoldener

    • @THEFERMANATOR
      @THEFERMANATOR Год назад

      @@wheelbasemedia5814 I've seen that test, but as you pointed out, that was a 6.0l, and one that is more heavily modded than most go. It would have been nice to have seen the tbss thrown in to the mix on a cam only 5.3l like so many like myself are doing.

  • @robertharper8709
    @robertharper8709 Год назад +1

    I agree with the others, it's not needed for that build. Your not racing cammed a truck on a track, and if a cammed 5.3L is going in your project car, a wet nitrous kit would be alot better hp/$ for the occasional drag racing.

  • @slows102
    @slows102 Год назад +4

    Fast might only make 10hp more than tbss intake, and they can be had for $200

  • @timscroggins2345
    @timscroggins2345 Год назад +1

    Great show sir

  • @toddclark332
    @toddclark332 Год назад +1

    Richard have a fantastic Christmas buddy see you 😁💙♥️

  • @benmclean2291
    @benmclean2291 Год назад +1

    Another awesome video 👍👍

  • @smiller225
    @smiller225 Год назад +1

    2016 and 2017 mustang gt injectors fit a fast manifold and rail with just a o ring change

  • @oxycopium
    @oxycopium 7 месяцев назад +1

    If i had a deal on a i take instead of 1500 it was 500 maybe. But at that price i would just save a little nore and get a twin turbo kit for 3600.

  • @jimmyford271
    @jimmyford271 Год назад +1

    I love watching your videos they make want to try new things on my Challenger. Richard I would love to see this test done with the gen 3 hemi and eagle heads running comps 201-428-17 cam to compare the Charger/ Challenger intake to the Holley intake.

  • @kalui96
    @kalui96 Год назад +3

    I wonder if shaving all the extra stuff growing out of the Truck Intake would make it look cool

    • @Borderline5440
      @Borderline5440 Год назад +3

      It does not. Shaved truck intakes look like ass.

  • @Kaus5221
    @Kaus5221 8 месяцев назад +1

    High tech steam vent delete!

  • @marcs8563
    @marcs8563 Год назад +3

    Be interesting to see the results on a 6.0 or 6.2 with a truck manifold vs the lsxrt manifold

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +1

      LSXRT MAKES THE SAME POWER AS LSXR-SEE THE BIG INTAKE TEST VIDEO (RUN ON A 6.0L)

    • @button-puncher
      @button-puncher Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 Is it essentially that same intake manifold? Same runner length? Just different TB locations to clear the belt drive in each application?

  • @matthewneil2987
    @matthewneil2987 Год назад +1

    I'm assuming it would be even more of a gain on similar build 6.0 litre.
    I'd like to see if a heatshield under the manifold would make a difference like the internet says it is

  • @seanb250
    @seanb250 Год назад +1

    My take away is that again cfm demand has told the story, the Fast manifold was more efficient in letting the heads flow their potential with the given lift of the camshaft 👍

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      you spelled intake design and reflected wave incorrectly

    • @seanb250
      @seanb250 Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 no I didn’t, it’s spelt “efficient” 🤷‍♂️

  • @TexasStormHunter
    @TexasStormHunter Год назад +1

    Great video, you definitely should have included the gen4/tbss intake in the test though.

    • @allanb3222
      @allanb3222 Год назад

      He has done that test already, in his previous videos.

    • @TexasStormHunter
      @TexasStormHunter Год назад

      @@allanb3222 on a more heavily modified 6.0. It's not exactly the same.

    • @allanb3222
      @allanb3222 Год назад

      @@TexasStormHunter He did it on a 5.3 as well.

  • @t.j.johnson7026
    @t.j.johnson7026 Год назад +3

    You would see better gains by taking 150-200lbs off of your truck AND it wouldn't cost you $1000. By the way, you are included in this weight so if you are a fatty and lose a lot of weight then your vehicle will accelerate faster.

  • @turbhoeheflin1168
    @turbhoeheflin1168 Год назад +1

    I’m sure it’s been said, but I really wish you could have done a Tbss manifold with same throttle body.

  • @seanbragg1696
    @seanbragg1696 Год назад +1

    Like I said before intake mods make more power now a 6pack ported TBIs is in order think the magic gain will be in the 40hp range n/a and better coil near plug

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +1

      what is a 6 pack ported tbi?

    • @seanbragg1696
      @seanbragg1696 Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 TBIs with butterfly porting so they match and are flowing better than stock and venturi effect

  • @richardkamowski4656
    @richardkamowski4656 Год назад +1

    I had a fast 102 on my boosted 383 ls , great intake but it kept leaking water, ended replacing it with a btr intake ,

  • @davidncw4613
    @davidncw4613 Месяц назад +1

    ty

  • @wydopnthrtl
    @wydopnthrtl Год назад +1

    Thanks for the vid & reporting!
    The more of these I watch... I just keep thinking my 04Z06 would do best by keeping it stock and adding a centrifugal blower. The bottom end TQ will only increase and the top end will greatly increase.

  • @detroitamerson
    @detroitamerson Год назад +1

    This is not a TBSS style intake. The later model TBSS or Dorman of it Richard has proven is a better intake than the old style one. Id like to see that test against the Fast one

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +1

      PLEASE SEE THE MANY TBSS INTAKE TESTS (EVEN 1 VIDEO WITH FAST VS TBSS VS TRUCK)

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Год назад +1

    Ever tried a edelbrock cross ram on one of these using the adapters? I know that manifold has done very well in all the testing I have seen of it. I wondered if the transitions of shape really hurt it that bad.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      YES-THOSE TESTS ARE UP-BUT THAT INTAKE WAS FOR A REC-PORT HEAD-SEE THE LS3 INTAKE TEST VIDEO

    • @bcbloc02
      @bcbloc02 Год назад +1

      @@richardholdener1727 Yes I have seen your testing with it before, was just wondeing if you had ever run one adapted back to the old engines to see if it still worked well or if the adapting killed its performance.

  • @bluecollarhotrods9781
    @bluecollarhotrods9781 Год назад +3

    So glad that you talked about the timing and fuel adjustments. Great test once again. You're actually the person who talked me into a FAST LSXRT through your videos.
    However, now I am on the fence... do I use my ported cathedral port heads and FAST LSXRT? Or use my recently acquired LS3 heads with a rec port truck intake? I'm pretty sure I could sell the PRC Stg 2.5s and FAST pretty easily. Regardless of what I use, I'll be buying a camshaft - so that is a wash.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +2

      if you have ported cath heads-keep those with a fast

    • @bluecollarhotrods9781
      @bluecollarhotrods9781 Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 I do, they are PRC Stg 2.5 ported 706/862 castings.

    • @baby-sharkgto4902
      @baby-sharkgto4902 Год назад

      Cathedral gang!!! That fast is a baaad unit. Yes I bought a new one but I understand it’s not for everyone. Thanks Richard

    • @bluecollarhotrods9781
      @bluecollarhotrods9781 Год назад +1

      @@baby-sharkgto4902 I bought a new one as well, got a crackhead deal on it. It was hard to say no.

    • @baby-sharkgto4902
      @baby-sharkgto4902 Год назад +1

      @@bluecollarhotrods9781 nice! They work great

  • @Chips_213
    @Chips_213 Год назад +3

    Test the $60 ls intake manifold from eBay it’s a truck intake manifold looks like the truck dorman one

  • @randyrichardson4364
    @randyrichardson4364 Год назад +1

    was hoping for the early truck intake AND the tbss intake vs the fast lsxr.

  • @joshuacoomes6388
    @joshuacoomes6388 Год назад +2

    Ever test the stock smaller throttle body on something like this or the TBSS just to see what happens? It would be nice to see if there is a loss of power between the two since it is expensive to go with an aftermarket throttle body or OBD Link adapter harness.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +1

      the stock tbss tb is dbw

    • @joshuacoomes6388
      @joshuacoomes6388 Год назад +1

      @@richardholdener1727 I know. I meant that the 3 and 4 bolt throttle bodies aren't electrically interchangeable and require an X-Link to make them work. The DBC guys have to run an cheap adapter or an expensive aftermarket throttle body with known Idle issues. I am going to run the TBSS manifold on my 03 6.0 w/ DBW, and use the 3 to 4 bolt adapter. I am just curious if there is HP left on the table with the stock, smaller throttle body. Thanks for the reply.

  • @sambert96
    @sambert96 Год назад +2

    I gained 45 to the wheels on my old heads cam 5.7 build switching from a ls1 intake to the fast. Big gains. The square port one isn't worth it. Only buy it if you have cathedral heads

    • @gofastparts4u
      @gofastparts4u Год назад +1

      The original LS1 intake sucks. The only thing worse is the LS4. A stock early truck intake blows the LS1 intake out of the water.

    • @sambert96
      @sambert96 Год назад +1

      @gofastparts4u agree. I didn't believe it was worth 1200$ but it sure was. It's now on my 383 making 570 to the wheels

  • @chipcurrey653
    @chipcurrey653 Год назад +1

    Please test vband versus t4 exhaust housing....like VS racing .96 t4 against .96 v band. Matt happel made a comment on a recent video that v band makes greatly reduced power due to reduced compressor housing volume

  • @C6Z_Bob
    @C6Z_Bob Год назад +1

    With bigger displacement, a bigger cam, and better cylinder heads, it's well worth it IMO. My heads/cam/intake 5.7 beat up on a lot of cars that didn't expect it

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Год назад

      Start with a Truck Norris cam and go from there. Just to go from a Gen 3 to Gen 4 Truck intake is a lot of time and money.

  • @jrrivers4140
    @jrrivers4140 Год назад +1

    Trying to decide on a rod mod and ported tb. Or just taking it in the bank and getting a fast 102 and tb. Bolt on ls2 with a Norris cam made 438 wheel 480tq

  • @DSRE535
    @DSRE535 Год назад +1

    That throttle body looked ported on the stock truck intake, I know because mine looked very similar, who knows if it’s worth power

  • @tptrsn
    @tptrsn Год назад +1

    I have to go back to your old cathedral port intake manifold test and see how badly the TBSS manifold beats the gen 3 truck manifold... And then there's the topic of how much is the throttle body worth in this power range/how big of a TB can you fit on a TBSS manifold with a bit of porting, or a reasonable adapter..

    • @DeathStalkerAlpha
      @DeathStalkerAlpha Год назад +1

      I think the Gen 3 truck manifold was 78mm and the Gen 4 truck manifold 87mm. You can fit a ls2 or LS3/7 90mm (some say it's 92mm after porting) throttle body depending on what color blade you have silver blade 07-08 or gold blade 09-14

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Год назад

      A lot of time and money just to get the Gen 4 intake to work on a Gen 3 truck.

    • @tptrsn
      @tptrsn Год назад

      @@shadowopsairman1583 It has nothing to do with a truck for me.

    • @tptrsn
      @tptrsn Год назад

      @@DeathStalkerAlpha Interesting, thanks!

  • @mitchelgonzales86
    @mitchelgonzales86 Месяц назад +1

    😂 dude's awesome 👍😎

  • @coboscustoms4342
    @coboscustoms4342 Год назад +1

    I was really hoping you would have thrown in an overlay of the tbss manifold with those two

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      usually more than truck but less than fast

    • @coboscustoms4342
      @coboscustoms4342 Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 yeah I understand that. Anything smaller than a 6.0 I tell everybody not to even bother changing the manifold unless they have a massive cam

  • @button-puncher
    @button-puncher Год назад +1

    I can't wait until we can 3D print an intake manifold. I understand R&D costs but how FAST charges a grand for an injection molded piece of plastic seems insane to me. If they charged four hundred they'd sell three times as many and make more money.

  • @kyleorsak
    @kyleorsak Год назад +1

    id like to see the fast lsxr vs the new holley ultra low ram. i know they tested all the holley intakes with each other the the ultra low ram wasnt too bad compared to the high ram. i have a stock hood i want to clear so its either a fast intake or the ultra low ram

    • @Cowboy.underwater
      @Cowboy.underwater Год назад +2

      Unless you plan on shifting well past 8,000 RPM, The fast manifold will have a WAY better power curve than the low ram.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +2

      a low ram won't even be close-til very high rpm (above 7000)

  • @bradp9938
    @bradp9938 Год назад +4

    Not worth it in my opinion. Alot of extra steps and money, when you could just do a ported tbss and 90mm tb. There are also fitment issues with the stock 4 corner steam vent with the fast intake.

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 Год назад

      There is a lot of Time and money just to get the Gen 4 intake to work on a Gen 3 Truck.

    • @bradp9938
      @bradp9938 Год назад

      @@shadowopsairman1583 not if you buy used or go to a junkyard. You don't see many used lsxr intakes, let alone in a junkyard.

  • @trevermonk8575
    @trevermonk8575 Год назад +1

    Would have been cool to see it with the nbss/tbss intake, I'm sure you've done the test in some shape or form

    • @chandlerlofton6536
      @chandlerlofton6536 Год назад +1

      I agree, I have a ported TBSS on my 408, and I wonder what I’m leaving on the table.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      WATCH THE BIG CATH INTAKE TEST VIDEO

    • @trevermonk8575
      @trevermonk8575 Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 sorry i should have said that you've probably shown us that test in the past. thanks!

  • @evilinside5984
    @evilinside5984 Год назад +2

    I noticed when tb was open all the way @ 5:11 into video, @ 5:14 closes slightly, and stays there, have you noticed this, or does that cause variations/power loses?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      you are seeing things

    • @evilinside5984
      @evilinside5984 Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 Yes, Im seeing things that are actually happening. Did you go back and watch this same video, @ the times i previously mentioned? You did not see the angle change to the throttle body blade? Please take a closer look, between 5:11 and 5:15 into this video. I just showed someone else, and they seen the throttle body blade change its angle aswell.

  • @Harris715
    @Harris715 Год назад +1

    I know Richard tested a 102 vs 92 throttle body on a FAST 102 intake, but I’m curious what the difference is between a FAST 92 and FAST 102 intake. I’ve only been able to find tests comparing the old FAST 78 and the FAST 102. The only reason I care is because it’s my understanding that my stock LS1 fuel rails will bolt up to the FAST 92, but I will need LS2 rails with the FAST 102.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      I HAVE A VIDEO UP ON 92 VS 102

    • @Harris715
      @Harris715 Год назад +1

      @@richardholdener1727 I guess I’m no good at Google or something. ruclips.net/video/ZO6iQRes74E/видео.html This is the only 92 vs 102 video of yours I can find which, when I wrote my comment last night, I thought you had run on a FAST 102 intake. Would you mind pointing me in the right direction for a FAST 92 intake test?

  • @MyFirstGen
    @MyFirstGen Год назад +1

    Shouldn’t we all think about max. Torque and HP in a normal operating range? If you are getting maximum HP and torque in a rpm range you don’t get a vehicle in why search for and spend the money?

  • @jimreal3840
    @jimreal3840 Год назад +1

    Any difference w no air filters,to having one....

  • @n2oracer84
    @n2oracer84 Год назад +2

    How would an LS6 intake with ported throttle body fair in this comparison?

    • @goat_life254
      @goat_life254 Год назад +1

      Exactly what I want to know. I have the ls6 on my 04 gto and if it’s over 20hp gain that’s worth it.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +1

      ls6 should be like or just below tbss-so between these two

  • @timcartwright4679
    @timcartwright4679 Год назад +1

    Story would be very different on a stroker with decent heads. Not really it's intended application.

  • @jeffpistritto9524
    @jeffpistritto9524 Год назад +1

    Have you ever done a traditional old school roots blower on gen3 hemi ? Maybe vs other superchargers / blowers

  • @blindguygarage
    @blindguygarage Год назад +1

    I have some sort of ported heads on a 5-3 truck intake still working on getting HP tuner to fix the tune has a BTR stage 3 camshaft do you have a video with the fast intake on that setup something with upgraded heads and intake but not Pistons bottom end all that kind of stuff. This build is going to definitely be stages my next major purchase if any would be the Trailblazer SS setup flex fuel unless you say that's not worth it before a turbo

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      this was a cammed 5.3L with a fast-both numbers would be up slightly with properly ported heads

    • @blindguygarage
      @blindguygarage Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 I guess then what would be your expectations of a good tune on a 5-3 with properly ported heads the stage 3 Brian Tilley Truck cam and stock injectors fuel pump air intake I was thinking ones properly tuned 450 crank 300 wheel? 2500 stall converter stage one 4l60 GM performance. Shorty headers okay let the converters.

  • @benjaminwillard2394
    @benjaminwillard2394 8 месяцев назад +1

    start at 10 minutes and 45 seconds

  • @batman607
    @batman607 Год назад +2

    I would just add a water 50/50 methanol injection for under $500.00

  • @myfastcars
    @myfastcars Год назад +1

    If, you hand ported the stock truck intake, would that close the FAST Intake increase gap????

  • @steezyg35
    @steezyg35 Год назад +1

    So is there a better looking option over the stock ones that achieves the same power?

  • @dforest8539
    @dforest8539 Год назад +2

    I'm looking for a efi ls3 duel plain intake.. I want the torque power

    • @TexasStormHunter
      @TexasStormHunter Год назад

      The truck manifold will make more torque than a dual plane.

  • @deankay4434
    @deankay4434 Месяц назад

    Show a decent cam, factory intake, decent fuel, 450+ HP & 400+ Torque. $1,000 Fast needs more fuel, higher RPM and made 480+ HP and 418 torque at higher RPM. Total comparison is what. $1,000 from wallet, more stops at gas station to gain 30HP & 18Torque at higher RPM.
    I will keep the truck intake cleaned up in my 57 year old truck on my 5.3L iron block and keep the $1k in a nice paint job! Thank you kindly for your blistering low gains for so much extra coin! But that my needs. Yours may be more is better. Wait for retirement and let’s see what you build then.

  • @detonationpyrotechnics4156
    @detonationpyrotechnics4156 Год назад +1

    The only way that fast manifold should be used is with a built engine. The gain is not worth it for a stock block

  • @speedtweaked2540
    @speedtweaked2540 Год назад +1

    Have you done a test with running a 78 vs 87 vs 90 vs 92 vs 102mm (or some combination) of throttle body’s on that Fast intake. I’d be curious if say you swapped from a TBSS to a Fast and could save some coin by running the factory TB if going to the 102 wasn’t necessary to maximize your application.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      THE SMALLER TB WOULD BE FINE FOR MANY APPLICATIONS-LIKE THIS 5.3L

  • @88RSI
    @88RSI Год назад +1

    What was the gains for the valve train & cam upgrade and at what cost? How much would a shop charge to do a cam swap?

  • @MrMechanicandy
    @MrMechanicandy Год назад +1

    I don’t find much info on the 5.3 ls in impala ss on its intake do you have any idea if it cathedral and what kind of power loss you get using it thanks great show by the way .

  • @thinkingmanhillbilly
    @thinkingmanhillbilly Год назад +1

    What's the biggest throttle body you can fit on the truck manifold can you open it up and put a bigger one on it I wonder how much difference there would be then

    • @DeathStalkerAlpha
      @DeathStalkerAlpha Год назад

      90mm off the Corvettes LS2 silver blade and LS3/7 gold blade I haven't seen much gains on anyone that's done it, just quicker response.

  • @Justls1v8parts
    @Justls1v8parts Год назад +1

    Morning Richard
    On my 5.7ls1 would a tbss truck manifold work height is not an issue hood wise.
    From your videos the tbss is better than the ls6?.
    What is the throttle body size also on the tbss.
    Thank-you
    Aaron.

  • @boostedbeezytvz318
    @boostedbeezytvz318 Год назад +1

    I was told to just get an ls3 intake and walk away

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      you can't use that ls3 intake on cath ports (except with adapter and that doesn't work well)

  • @scottbarrera6860
    @scottbarrera6860 Год назад +1

    Looking for a intake manifold for my Sierra 2500hd which one would you recommend

  • @rene7500
    @rene7500 Год назад +1

    I have a 5.3 lm7 with TSP 216/220 stage 3 camshaft. 1 7/8 long tube headers that turn into 3 inch exhaust straight out to the back bumper. LS7 lifters and springs kit and a new oil pump...K &N filter of course With a custom tune from the shop that I had do the install. I am asking for your advice on what size LSXRT intake I should get. What's the best combo for what I currently have done on my truck. I know there is a sweet spot between to much air flow and a little restriction. Your the master bro! Tell me what's up. And also if I do the LSXRT install myself will it need to be re-tuned? Should I also get a new fuel rail and injectors if there is a kit that LSxRT comes with ?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад +1

      the lsxr or rt version make the same power-get the 102mm version

    • @rene7500
      @rene7500 Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 thank you!

    • @ricksmash8080
      @ricksmash8080 3 месяца назад

      @@richardholdener1727same question but I have the stage 2 cam, and I haul a trailer. What intake will give me the best low end torque? And if a new manifold isn’t the best way to do it what is? Thanks for these videos Richard!

  • @DStout92
    @DStout92 11 месяцев назад +1

    What did you figure for the lsxr102 manifold volume?

  • @J.Steele7
    @J.Steele7 Год назад +1

    Richard I’ll try to catch you in a live but I need someone smarter than me to answer this pondering thought. In a bbc tall deck block could I use a 3.76 stroke with a very long rod would this be counter intuitive? I’m looking at a 477 4.5 bore 3.76 stroke. I know valve train is the limit to rpm but I want to eliminate any detriment to engine speed.

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT-ESPECIALLY WITH A 3.76 STROKE

    • @J.Steele7
      @J.Steele7 Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 too short of stroke for a tall deck? Or the short stroke doesn’t help

  • @sstevocamaro
    @sstevocamaro Год назад +2

    How much is the TBSS intake worth over the “older” truck intake?

  • @stephenhodge6441
    @stephenhodge6441 Год назад +1

    Ok someone get me up to speed here. I really don't know much about cathedral port intakes. I know you have the LS1 and LS6 for the car style intakes. And for the truck intakes there is the Trail Blazer SS intake and.... This is where I'm lost. Are all other cathedral port truck intakes the same? 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0 Gen 3, and 4.8 and 5.3 gen 4?

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Год назад

      early truck

    • @stephenhodge6441
      @stephenhodge6441 Год назад

      @@richardholdener1727 can you elaborate? The one you tested was early truck? And what would be the difference in early and late truck?

  • @johnanderson4479
    @johnanderson4479 Месяц назад +1

    I have a 76mm throttle body on my 6.0 can I swap to 92 mm without any issues

    • @richardholdener1727
      @richardholdener1727  Месяц назад

      what size is the opening in your intake?

    • @johnanderson4479
      @johnanderson4479 Месяц назад

      @@richardholdener1727 the 92 fits perfectly but I just did a check fit

  • @thomascristaldi9303
    @thomascristaldi9303 2 месяца назад +1

    Have a link to the cam?