I know literally no one in this comment section will care, but I find it kinda funny how Yord is portrayed as having a Padawan in the first episode but then she never shows up again. Like it seems like the only reason she was even there was so we could see a Zygerrian in live action. I doubt she'll show up in the finale I've just had this on my mind for the last few episodes.
I also found it very odd that Yord's padawan disappeared from the show and wasn't even spoken of by anyone. Jekki was Sol's padawan and went with him on missions.
@@cklamboTo be fair, Obi-Wan took on Anakin immediately after becoming a Knight. Special circumstances, yes, but the Acolyte has already borrowed some of those circumstances.
Remember when we thought there had to be an explanation for why the stone fortress burned down, but nope, it was just stupid? Occam’s Razor says that Headland is just plain dumb, and she probably doesn’t even understand what the Rashomon effect is.
This. The show is not a mystery, it's just a dumb story that has been edited in a non-linear way to withhold info from the viewers, in order to stretch out the plot.
Kenobi's made me roll my eyes while BOBF's was at least somewhat entertaining. I predict The Acolyte's will leave us asking, "So that was it? That was the mystery?" So essentially, a feeling of time wasted over 8 episodes.
It’s kinda funny that she equates it to Rashomon, with the same events played from fundamentally opposing perspectives, when it’s portrayed a whole lot more like Back to the Future Part II, with the same scenes as previously shown, played again, just from a slightly different angle.😂
I predict that we won't get the story of how Qimir met Mae, why he's encouraging her to off 4 four Jedi that were there, why he said the thing about weapons, why he's so powerful, or a conclusion to the story. I fully expect that the show was written with the assumption a second season was always going to happen.
That would be interesting if they had made Mae and Osha each half a person, e.g. one fully optimistic, one fully led by hatred (a bit like that episode of Rick and Morty). When they’re both full people, what does it even mean to fuse them? Just created a 3rd, new person with greater force powers 😕
I think the green Jedi might have come to the dead witches' planet, to investigate for herself and brought her padawan. They found the evil twin and the dead witches. Padawan turns evil for some reason (maybe he gets posessed by the mom with the horns or something like this), green Jedi has to fight him, thinks she killed him and leaves the planet. Ex-padawan is taken in by the mom and trained w/o Mae getting to know him. Once he is ready he puts on the mask and takes Mae on as an apprentice while mom moves on to wherever, and off they go.
The Perfect Ending: Guest stars are Bob Iger, Pablo Hidalgo, Leslye Headland, Dave Filoni and Kathleen Kennedy. The finale opens by Qimir beheading Occupational Safety and Health Administration and Mae, and then Sol stabs Qimir and kills him. Sol tells Vernestra. Vernestra doesn't like it that Sol killed the twins, and then calls in Bob Iger, Leslye Headland, Kathleen Kennedy, Pablo Hidalgo and Dave Filoni. Sol kills all of them Palpatine style. The final showdown - Sol vs Vernestra, who pulls out her light whip. Sol beheads her, killing her too. Once he does, he goes out of character, and then Manny Jacinto, the actor as himself, says that this whole show was a farce and isn't cannon, and Bob, Kathleen, Leslye, Pablo and Dave have all been permanently fired from Disney and Lucasfilm and will not be associated with any further Star Wars projects. Perfect Ending.
My prediction: Mae will guilt Sol about his role in what happened 16 years ago, and he dies of heartache. Then she returns to Qimir, saying she’s successfully killed a Jedi without using a weapon. I’m not sure how likely that will occur, but it would be nice to have at least one plot thread wrapped up at the end of the season.
That kinda seems dumb on its own, as the show, but when taking in count that we're talking about very flawed show that is Acolyte, this seems to be the best last thing this show could've done. So, unsarcasticaly, good catch on your part
I don't understand why they couldn't just adapt the Darth Plagueis novel instead. I mean, it's already relatively consistent with the New Canon version of the prequel era. The Acolyte has added absolutely nothing noteworthy to the lore.
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@@vetarlittorf1807 They were starting the process along with the PR campaign, but Disney did eventually give in because the public damage was spreading as more people joined in the chorus of alleged lack of payments and the industry guilds were standing up for the membership (in part to forestall other companies from withholding royalties).
Leslae saying this would be like Rashamon is kinda like how Deborah Chow said Kenobi would be very character driven like Logan. If you say you drive a sports car, dont pull up in a miata, thats a lie.
I think that, in one way or another, Mae and Osha will merge. It could happen while they are both alive or while one of them is dying. At that point Oshamae will become the new, most powerful and balanced, Mary Sue wielder of the force. Oops! I mean The Thread. Lol! Or maybe she will become a seamstress, known galaxy-wide as the "Thread-master." 😅
Wouldn't make sense. Revenge of the Sith already referred to Plagueis as a "he" and George Lucas was the one who came up with the idea that Plagueis is a Muun whose original name was Hego Damask.
I can’t wait to find out tomorrow…or Qimir is Oshes actual twin brother. May and Oshe being a single person split at some point which is why one was evaporating
Osha will end up killing Sol; one of those 'heartbreaking' betrayal scenes and he'll be too stupid to see it coming. I think Mae and Osha will fight, she'll persuade Osha that Qimir is dangerous and together (the power of two?) they'll fight Qimir and probably get him to flee so they can reunite as sisters and leave to start a new coven for a dreaded season 2. Since Headland has indicated that Qimir will be in a season 2 (if there is any) either they'd have to show flashbacks if they kill him in season 1 or he'll survive. An alternate possibility is that Qimir wins both sisters over to his side and the three of them kill Sol (the power of a ménage à trois?) and that is the basis for a second season. If it had the ending I would like best would be Venestra arriving after they kill Sol and she kills the sisters and Qimir and maybe she dies in the process as well. We can't be that lucky, though, you just know, no matter how poor the ratings and how bad the fans hate it, Kennedy and Headland are hell bent to keep this stupid story going forward.
I am predicting... Option A Sol will have a fight with Osha, cause Osha is now on the dark side. Just as Osha is about to kill sol Mae jumps in front causing Osha to kill Mae. Then Qimir kills Sol while he is shocked at what just happened. Then Master Rwoh shows up with the other Jedi and sees Osha with Qimir and assumes everything has been Osha's fault the whole time and blames her for killing Sol. They fight, its revealed Rwoh was the master of Qimir. Rwoh then kills Qimir and Osha in a rage kills Rwoh... And then the more evil main sith character shows up to be Osha's master. Option B It's another flash back from the sith point of view and there is another "cliff hanger" in the present time for a season 2... why am I still watching this show. lol.
Osha & Mae will do FUUUSION !! Come together into one bieng, both a mix of light and dark, this will completely cabbage Sol, he'll suffer a aneurysm from a result of it, then "Oshamae" falls in love with Qimir, they sleep together and Oshamae gets pregnant and eventually gives birth to a baby, who she calls Hego Damask. Calling it.
This video did not age well. Everything was so much worse. My biggest problems with this episode in chronological order: 1. Sol repeatedly saying "I did the right thing," whenever accused of killing their mother. He clearly regrets everything that happened. He killed her in a moment of panic because he didn't know what else to do. A mature person (which Sol otherwise seems to be) would not justify that kind of mistake and say "it was the right thing." You can't even use "too dangerous to be left alive" logic here because she wasn't threatening anyone except when threatened. He *thought* he was doing the right thing leading up to it, but things got out of hand, and he panicked and overreacted in the moment. But in retrospect, it's out of character for him to still think it was "the right thing" to kill her. 2. When Osha was choking Sol, the staging and the music all implied that it was a "good" thing. No ominous, dark-side tones. More "this is how it's supposed to be" vibes. Somehow, giving into your rage and force-choking someone to death isn't a tragedy anymore??? 3. Wiping Mae's memory was the most ridiculous non-sensical decision Osha could have made. I get not wanting to stay because the Jedi would capture and imprison them, but if Osha is willing to go with Qimir, why can't Mae come too? She spent all that time with him before, why does fear of going back suddenly trump wanting to stay with her long-lost-presumed-dead sister? And even *if* staying with Qimir is unacceptable for Mae, why is (checks notes) *having him wipe her memory, leaving her to be captured by the Jedi, whom they are specifically avoiding* preferable to dropping her off on a random planet with her memory intact? If Osha can't trust him enough to make a deal and drop Mae off elsewhere, why does he trust him enough to *wipe her memory*??? 4. Mae saying "this is what you were supposed to do" with no hint from the show that she's wrong. --See also point number 2. I can't believe we have to explain why this is a problem. 5. Vernestra coming to Yoda at the end has drastic implications, because either he is oblivious to her corruption, or he is part of it. Which could very quickly turn into a character assassination if the story is allowed to continue. I was willing to give this show a chance. I was never impressed, but up to this episode, I could let it slide as "okay". Just clumsy writing with inconsistent characters. Poor quality, but nothing "bad" or lore-shattering. But THIS episode was a tragedy. I can no longer regard this an acceptable or even forgivable part of the Star Wars story.
Interesting points. Regarding music, my favourite part of Infinity War is when it ends on a Major chord (happy) after the snap, so the music is “on Thanos’ side” briefly. I just mention this so we don’t make blanket rules that would limit better, more mature works of art, just because crap like the Acolyte gets it wrong. (I’m not watching the Acolyte)
I just really hope it doesn't leave with a big cliff hanger ending setting up season 2. I've felt increasingly apathetic towards the series as its gone on and I want it to just end now.
Headland has said in interviews that she wanted season 1 to finish a story, and that a potential season 2 would build off of that. Not that absolutely everything would be resolved, but she is not a fan of cliffhangers. Take that with an entire shaker of salt (and perhaps a twist of lime and a shot of tequila), but it would be one of the few bits of competent writing (alongside lethal lightsabers) demonstrated on this show if true.
I think the women of the coven were all alive. And still living on the planet. I'm not even sure what the objective of the series is about. How the twins were created? The truth of the events on that planet? The presence of Sith? At least Obi-Wan just had to bring back a kidnapped child. And Boba had to defeat the Syndicate to secure his position. Clear cut objectives.
Plot twist: the twins were never a vergence, but rather the children of Qimir and the witch mother; and the jedi were so embarrassed they thought it was a vergence that they lied about the event to everyone. Ki Ali Mundae did a lot of shrooms and forgot.
My predictions are it will ruin the storylines of Yoda, plaugus, tenebris, palpatine, and the droid attack on the wookies. Glad I won’t see it. Thanks for watching it Thor.
Sol kills Qimir, Qimir kills Sol. Osha and Mae merge as one and become a misty Grey Jedi who moves in with the Whills and becomes a girl-boss journal editor!
Well, it can't be a long episode so it's going to have to ignore or leave behind several elements it brought up over the first five episodes. I predict it will magically leave out all the things from episodes 1 and 2, we won't get any explanation for Torbin, angry green jedi will never be ousted as being the true villain, smilo ren will give up and the twins will flip flop again to try to bring some tension to the final moments I predict it will be the fattest, most uninteresting episode of any show, ever lol
Leslye Headland said in an interview that we are going to find our exactly.how the twins were created. Which would mean someone who was there when that happened will have to reveal that to the viewer. Who is that? The witches are dead and Mother Koril is said to be gone. Seemingly a Sith was there, perhaps helping to create the twins (a first attempt at creating life) and they will reveal how it happened to the audience?
Mae has to be the one to kill Sol, and I'm reasonably sure she'll do it without a weapon, because that's been set up as a thing and foreshadowed far too hard to just go nowhere. Possibly this will allow her to earn forgiveness from her master as she is completing his wishes, but I don't really see where that goes. Whatever happens you can be sure it will be almost impossibly dumb.
YASSSSS! YAASSSS! She can inherit the Smilo helmet so that Palpatine doesn't realize that "he" is a she (or they go back and edit ROTS with "they/them" lol)
Gandalf will show up, whimsically flying on top of Hedwig. Then, the Joker will throw kryptonite bombs from the crossbow he got at Winterfell. Finally, the cast of Cats will show up…. Fade to black.
Thank you Thor. I've really enjoyed your reviews of this show. I am part of the vast majority who just plain missed this show through apathy. Your videos however, have been religiously followed.
Qimir was present on Brendok, probably drew the attention of the Jedi order to the planet. Manipulated things using the dark side of the force. He wanted Osha since she, as a more light side oriented force user, would be inherently more powerful if turned to the dark side. The events in the compound - stone catching fire, the power supply exploding, the witches dying (after losing control over Kelnacca) was all intended to make a plausible explanation that everyone killed everyone else. Endara threw a money wrench into his plans when she freed Kelnacca from the witches control as that would leave too many witnesses (i.e. the other Jedi) for him to kill Sol and make off with Osha. Qimir using dark side of the force killed all the witches because if they recovered their senses they would realize they had been manipulated. He did influence Sol to save Osha over Mae but had to settle for Mae and train her to eliminate the Jedi who had been present on Brendok. Whether there was a Sith behind Qimir, don't know. I am just a normie so I know nothing of the EU, etc. 🤔
Interesting prediction about Qimir being killed! We'll have to see what happens. I think Qimir is going to survive the end of the season, because they seem to be setting him up as a sort of dark side version of Sol. Osha came this far thanks to Sol, now Qimir will take her on the next stage of her journey.
Logically mae didn't really learn anything new from the last ep. So her motivations shouldn't change. Osha hasn't learned anything new either, so her motivations shouldn't change either. Unless something big happens.
Their motivations have changed 180 degrees plenty of times. They should wear a picture of flip flop footwear on their clothes. Are you being sarcastic?
I think Qimir and Sol will have to join forces to defeat the twins and Qimir's master the green female Jedi with the whip lightsaber. In the end Sol, Qimir and the twins all are defeated and the master will either get away or some strand thing will happen that will explain why the Jedi counsel never hears nothing about this. Because the only way that could happen is everyone dies because of a disaster or freak accident making the council unaware or something. Even though its dumb and impossible and only rips apart yet another section of star wars legacy
I have a feeling that one of the sisters will be seriously injured and the other sister will take her to the bakku tree (or whatever its called) and will infuse her life force into her, becoming one entity. It has to be done at the center of the vergence, the tree
After the way Qimir handled all the Jedi at one time I do not think anyone could question the fact that he is a legit Sith. Combine that with the fact that the green bald headed female Jedi is his master simply based off of the fact that her light saber whip would be the only thing I can think of that could cause those scars on Qimis back.
I predict Mae or Osha dies and they form into one person as the one who is dead gets to transfer into the alive one’s body. Same symbiont, split consciousness. It’s stupid but the entire show has been that way. And Sol likely dies. I prefer if everyone dies except Qimir. Then start Season 2 focused on him.
they probably won't answer anything. the clues are already in the show, we just have to figure them out instead of giving us answers to soothe our minds. I hope they don't make a season two. I think if it's a bunch of unanswered questions (that you can figure out) it makes it more unique.
My prediction is as I posted earlier Osha probably turns to the dark side wearing that helmet. Since my belief is that they are (in Leslyes way of the thread) in balance, Mae will be going over to the light. I also belive they are in a conection so if only one gets killed, she will turn upp under the tree. I think Sol gets killed, not sure here but I think Sol killes Qimir maybe together with Venestra. Since she can be Qimir's sith master, Venestra tries to "seduce" Sol to join her. When he refuse she kills him. She also kills that assistant Mod? cause he suspects her being evil/sith. Since none of the involving Jedi was killed, venestra can give the senate whatever story she wants about the missing jedi. Probably Osha and Mae survives hoping for a second season
At this point I’m thinking that our stubborn mouse friend just really didn’t like that the “watch in timeline order” of Star Wars on Disney plus was a project that they didn’t have a part in, and they just wanted their name on the first title in the timeline no matter what it was. The show never had to be good it just had to put Disney first 😭
Hey Thor, this isn't about the Acolyte but Andor. Do you think if season 2 is able to achieve what season 1 couldn't. That is bringing the broader fan base in and feeling more like Star wars. Do you think we could see more grounded shows/movies. Maybe even more from Tony Gilroy in Star wars?
I don’t see how season 2 could hope to achieve that if season 1 couldn’t. Less people will watch season 2 than season 1, so it’s unfortunately impossible
@@albertanmotorcyclist6419 I don't know about impossible. Maybe unlikely. Best thing going for Andor's viewership would be it's good publicity. Others telling other to watch it. My hope would be that more people would be looking forward to it being one of the only well received star wars projects in years
I don’t think that Qimir could have been there when the witches died. He would have, at most, been a padawan at that time, as he looks to be close in age to Osha/Mae. But he definitely wasn’t a Sith at that time because his Jedi master would have had to have punished him with their weapon. Hitting anyone like that would be extremely out of character for a Jedi.
The power of many - the coven. The power of two - the twins. The power of one - either the sith lord or the twins united as one. Sorry, I haven't feel well; must have been a fever dream...
I'm thinking it might end with Sol being killed but I'm unsure about Mae. Honestly, I'm been worried it'll just end in Sol and Mae dying in an unrelated thing or the continuation of the current story is left until a Season Two which won't end up getting made thanks to the backlash.
So no one is going to like this but if they go down the route of showing things from Qimir's perspective of the events on Brendock (Please no not again). But if Qimir is there possibly with his master (Actor David Harewood is supposed to be in the finale and it has been speculated he will be Darth Tenebrous and because Tenebrous is not currently canon he may no longer be a Bith and maybe Plagueis will no longer be a Muun). So basically I can see Qimir being revealed as Plagueis and he killed his master on Brendock 16 years earlier and took Mae as his apprentice. Sol and Mae will then die in this episode and Osha will kill Sol without a weapon becoming Qimir/Plagueis's apprentice and he will give her a sith name. Obviously she will fail as a sith in some way so Palpatine will eventually become Plagueis's apprentice. But Osha and Mae's existence will start Plagueis on the path to experimenting with Midi-Chlorians which will lead to the Force creating Anakin in retaliation. So on a scale of 1-10 how pi***d off would everyone be if this is what happens more or less. I do think if they are going to have a season 2 they cant kill off both of their only worthwhile characters (Sol & Qimir) even if they do bring some other sith lord into it.
My prediction: Everyone but the twins and the formal, not-aware-of-the-Sith Jedi will die and the twins will become the new Sith pair to carry on. Any future plans will just be more "interesting" Mae/Osha antics. Remember, the showrunners really don't know Star Wars lore and what little they do know, they don't respect. Any promises of Tenebrous or Plagueis are just desperate marketing ploys to win over the fanbase they thought they'd just replace. They think just having the bad guys win is shocking enough for viewers because they don't know the lore and how often that has already happened (including a little-known film trilogy from the early 2000s). Every time fans try to guess what Disney Star Wars will be, they always put WAY more thought and love into their ideas than what becomes the official storyline. Star Wars has always encouraged us to think bigger and more intense, but Disney, for all its budget and reach, thinks small.
My bet is honestly: They don't really. Just seeing how they failed to write a story that makes sense in itself, characters that have understandable motivations, how they failed to take time and space into consideration... well how would they manage to actually wrap this up in a way that makes sense.
I just started watching The Boys on Prime yesterday. The contrast to the Acolyte is astronomical, I binged the whole season 1 in two days because there was tension left after every episode and I really wanted to see what happens next. Comparing to the Acolyte, after every episode I have not felt any urge to watch another right after it. It was actually good that there only comes 1 episode per week, otherwise I dont think I would have had the stomach to watch this through. I know that Boys has comic base material to pull out of but I dont think that justifies the poor story quality of the Acolyte in any way.
Kamir faces his former master (green Jedi ) and struggles. Begs Ohsa to help him and she helps kill her, turning Ohsa to the dark side. Mae watches this and is like NO!!! and goes with Sol. It copies and ruins Anakins pivotal scene in ROTS, so right up their alley.
It doesn't matter if Smylo Ren influenced or taught Coral? Koral? Spikeface witch or if Spikeface witch is Smylo Ren's Sith Master or if Spikeface and Smylo are actually the same being. Shaved her horns off and got a sex change. Leslye Headband is going to have Mae and Osha join to have the power of two in order to defeat him, her or them. Sol will die. Turtle head Jedi or Discount Gamora Jedi; take your pick, will lie to the Council about what happened. This will explain why Ki-Adi-Mundi never learned about the presence of the Sith. So, even if Sol's death looks like a noble sacrifice to redeem his past mistakes, the Jedi still look like sanctimonious, duplicitous losers. LH isn't going to do anything positive for the Jedi in the finale. Finally, some thread will be left hanging with a clue that there is another Sith we haven't seen or been told about, who is the real puppet master. This will be the bait to interest viewers; the few that remain, in a second season of The Coprolite.
It ends with Luke waking up on his island, realizing he should probably stop drinking that strange creature's milk.
Would be the only good thing to come from his characterization in that god-forsaken film.
That's too funny for Disney these days.
Then he wakes up again in his bed in the jedi temple and wonders what the hell that was all about
@@GabrielSoares-zw9kh and Mara Jade is sleeping next to him
And getting off his sorry be-hind and help save the galaxy!
I guarantee there's going to be a scene with Sol hiding behind a tree watching the twins, and then Qimir is hiding behind another tree watching Sol.
And Agatha behind Qimir.
... and then hiding behind a very small shrub Darth Bazil watching both of them.
...And then there will be behind another tree Darth Jar Jar 😆
You know this would actually be the best scene in this god awful show due to how stupid it would be
And then behind him there will be Palpatine because he has some returned to the past, and now he needs to find out how to get back to the future
Ki-Adi-Mundi wakes up on Coruscant. What a strange dream he mutters. Then says, _it must be acid reflux from the Mon Calamari I ate._
And the female Mon Calamari in bed looks at him funny.
@@Deuteromis 😏😏😏
I know literally no one in this comment section will care, but I find it kinda funny how Yord is portrayed as having a Padawan in the first episode but then she never shows up again. Like it seems like the only reason she was even there was so we could see a Zygerrian in live action. I doubt she'll show up in the finale I've just had this on my mind for the last few episodes.
I was wondering if the awkwardness of “I had eyes on her the whole time” would ever lead to anything…
I also found it very odd that Yord's padawan disappeared from the show and wasn't even spoken of by anyone. Jekki was Sol's padawan and went with him on missions.
Was she his padawan? Thought he only became a knight 2 years ago. Bit early to get a padawan.
Hey the Zygerian is the Sith Lord! lol
@@cklamboTo be fair, Obi-Wan took on Anakin immediately after becoming a Knight. Special circumstances, yes, but the Acolyte has already borrowed some of those circumstances.
Remember when we thought there had to be an explanation for why the stone fortress burned down, but nope, it was just stupid? Occam’s Razor says that Headland is just plain dumb, and she probably doesn’t even understand what the Rashomon effect is.
This. The show is not a mystery, it's just a dumb story that has been edited in a non-linear way to withhold info from the viewers, in order to stretch out the plot.
The Powerpuff Girls did a better Rashomon in a single 12-minute episode than this lol
It was Agatha all along.
Another Dumpster fire
😂😂😂
It was Darth Bazil all along.
yeah that girl from Minority Report
She-Hulk will jump into the last scene to reveal that K.E.V.I.N. was the real writer for the series.
That would make way more sense
And why not at this point? Lol.
The Disney peeps themselves said they don't want to be limited by cannon.
Place your bets on this finale being worse than Kenobi’s and Book of Boba Fett’s. Come on don’t be shy people
Kenobi's made me roll my eyes while BOBF's was at least somewhat entertaining. I predict The Acolyte's will leave us asking, "So that was it? That was the mystery?"
So essentially, a feeling of time wasted over 8 episodes.
I'll take the under (BoBF/OWK > Acolyte)
This finale gonna be worse I bet 1000 credits!
Never tell me the odds!
10 bux on it will be worse , already is bro so it's an easy win 😂
It won't wrap up because Headland intended to drag this out into multiple seasons
Wanna hear a good joke? So, in season 2 of the Acolyte….
What a great joke! Lol!😅
Prediction? No.
No, it won't make sense.
7:28 - 7:48 actually did happen word for word and they even had plagueis
It’s kinda funny that she equates it to Rashomon, with the same events played from fundamentally opposing perspectives, when it’s portrayed a whole lot more like Back to the Future Part II, with the same scenes as previously shown, played again, just from a slightly different angle.😂
I predict that we won't get the story of how Qimir met Mae, why he's encouraging her to off 4 four Jedi that were there, why he said the thing about weapons, why he's so powerful, or a conclusion to the story. I fully expect that the show was written with the assumption a second season was always going to happen.
I think Mae and Osha will ‘recombine’ into a single person
The Backlash is more entertaining than the actual show.
It truly is.
Darth Plagueis says hold my coat.....
A shot in the dark, somehow May and Ossa will fuse together to their original self....The Acolyte!!!!
That would be interesting if they had made Mae and Osha each half a person, e.g. one fully optimistic, one fully led by hatred (a bit like that episode of Rick and Morty). When they’re both full people, what does it even mean to fuse them? Just created a 3rd, new person with greater force powers 😕
Fuuuu….siooooon…. Ha!
@@JoRoq1 Oh my god hahaha, thank you for the laugh!
I halfway seriously think they’ll hint that their spirit gets passed down into Rey, or something equally dumb
Yes. That was also my main prediction. (See my comment)
I think the green Jedi might have come to the dead witches' planet, to investigate for herself and brought her padawan. They found the evil twin and the dead witches. Padawan turns evil for some reason (maybe he gets posessed by the mom with the horns or something like this), green Jedi has to fight him, thinks she killed him and leaves the planet. Ex-padawan is taken in by the mom and trained w/o Mae getting to know him. Once he is ready he puts on the mask and takes Mae on as an apprentice while mom moves on to wherever, and off they go.
It ends with Yoda waking up realizing it was all a bad night(sister)mare...
“ Uurrgghh lay off the ketamine I should “
The Perfect Ending: Guest stars are Bob Iger, Pablo Hidalgo, Leslye Headland, Dave Filoni and Kathleen Kennedy. The finale opens by Qimir beheading Occupational Safety and Health Administration and Mae, and then Sol stabs Qimir and kills him. Sol tells Vernestra. Vernestra doesn't like it that Sol killed the twins, and then calls in Bob Iger, Leslye Headland, Kathleen Kennedy, Pablo Hidalgo and Dave Filoni. Sol kills all of them Palpatine style. The final showdown - Sol vs Vernestra, who pulls out her light whip. Sol beheads her, killing her too. Once he does, he goes out of character, and then Manny Jacinto, the actor as himself, says that this whole show was a farce and isn't cannon, and Bob, Kathleen, Leslye, Pablo and Dave have all been permanently fired from Disney and Lucasfilm and will not be associated with any further Star Wars projects. Perfect Ending.
My prediction: Mae will guilt Sol about his role in what happened 16 years ago, and he dies of heartache. Then she returns to Qimir, saying she’s successfully killed a Jedi without using a weapon. I’m not sure how likely that will occur, but it would be nice to have at least one plot thread wrapped up at the end of the season.
Creative! I have noticed that there is a lot of guilt manipulation throughout the series, so that would fit in very well.
That kinda seems dumb on its own, as the show, but when taking in count that we're talking about very flawed show that is Acolyte, this seems to be the best last thing this show could've done. So, unsarcasticaly, good catch on your part
@@mihailos8701 To be fair, its dumbness is intentional, and perfectly fits with how dumb the show is. At least Mae's quest would be done!
this + Osha becomes Qimir's Acolyte by killing Sol "without a weapon"
My prediction?
PPPAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNNN...🤦😡
I call Yoda getting a tiny scene for Fanservice.
Tiny scene was very accurate
Yep you were right
I don't understand why they couldn't just adapt the Darth Plagueis novel instead. I mean, it's already relatively consistent with the New Canon version of the prequel era. The Acolyte has added absolutely nothing noteworthy to the lore.
Disney hates paying royalties. Several Star Wars novel authors successfully started a PR campaign in 2020 and 2021 that forced Disney to start honoring unpaid royalties owed from the time Lucasfilm was purchased. Disney originally argued that the royalties contracts were not transferred with the sale, even though they hold the rights to the books and continue to republish them under “Legends”.
@@JoRoq1Then shouldn't the authors be able to sue Disney?
@@vetarlittorf1807 They were starting the process along with the PR campaign, but Disney did eventually give in because the public damage was spreading as more people joined in the chorus of alleged lack of payments and the industry guilds were standing up for the membership (in part to forestall other companies from withholding royalties).
She obviously wrote it so that she can talk incessantly about how season two will answer any and all questions.
It would be great if we could get some storyline about an acolyte.
My prediction: SOMEHOW Palpatine has already been born.
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Leslae saying this would be like Rashamon is kinda like how Deborah Chow said Kenobi would be very character driven like Logan. If you say you drive a sports car, dont pull up in a miata, thats a lie.
《So this is how "The ACOLYTE" Ends... With Thunderous Applause"》
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I think that, in one way or another, Mae and Osha will merge. It could happen while they are both alive or while one of them is dying. At that point Oshamae will become the new, most powerful and balanced, Mary Sue wielder of the force. Oops! I mean The Thread. Lol!
Or maybe she will become a seamstress, known galaxy-wide as the "Thread-master." 😅
I honestly don't think we will get another perspective. I think, much like she did Star Wars, Leslye has misread the Rashomon story structure.
*yoda voice* "A story structure, misread, could have been."
My at work, quick answer to the title of this video… “No.”
The only way this makes sense is if Disney admits they are just trolling the fans! 😂
“Make OSHA into Darth Plageis”
BROOO!! I DARE THEM 😂
Wouldn't make sense. Revenge of the Sith already referred to Plagueis as a "he" and George Lucas was the one who came up with the idea that Plagueis is a Muun whose original name was Hego Damask.
@@vetarlittorf1807 you think they care about any of that?
@@-AtomsPhere- Yes. To some extent. I mean, they would be aware of the backlash of such blatant and deliberate contradiction.
@@vetarlittorf1807 what about kiadi mumdi not being born yet
@@adrianoippolito1999 Well, his date of birth was only mentioned in Legends. Not defending the decision though.
After this show is over, MAY IT NEVER AGAIN SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
7:28 - 7:48 Word for freaking word what happened lmao
I already forgot Qimir was a thing
I can’t wait to find out tomorrow…or Qimir is Oshes actual twin brother. May and Oshe being a single person split at some point which is why one was evaporating
Osha will end up killing Sol; one of those 'heartbreaking' betrayal scenes and he'll be too stupid to see it coming. I think Mae and Osha will fight, she'll persuade Osha that Qimir is dangerous and together (the power of two?) they'll fight Qimir and probably get him to flee so they can reunite as sisters and leave to start a new coven for a dreaded season 2. Since Headland has indicated that Qimir will be in a season 2 (if there is any) either they'd have to show flashbacks if they kill him in season 1 or he'll survive. An alternate possibility is that Qimir wins both sisters over to his side and the three of them kill Sol (the power of a ménage à trois?) and that is the basis for a second season. If it had the ending I would like best would be Venestra arriving after they kill Sol and she kills the sisters and Qimir and maybe she dies in the process as well. We can't be that lucky, though, you just know, no matter how poor the ratings and how bad the fans hate it, Kennedy and Headland are hell bent to keep this stupid story going forward.
I have it on good authority that season 1 will indeed end.
Imagine the universal distress if that didn't happen! Lol!
I am predicting...
Option A
Sol will have a fight with Osha, cause Osha is now on the dark side. Just as Osha is about to kill sol Mae jumps in front causing Osha to kill Mae. Then Qimir kills Sol while he is shocked at what just happened.
Then Master Rwoh shows up with the other Jedi and sees Osha with Qimir and assumes everything has been Osha's fault the whole time and blames her for killing Sol. They fight, its revealed Rwoh was the master of Qimir. Rwoh then kills Qimir and Osha in a rage kills Rwoh... And then the more evil main sith character shows up to be Osha's master.
Option B
It's another flash back from the sith point of view and there is another "cliff hanger" in the present time for a season 2...
why am I still watching this show. lol.
Osha & Mae will do FUUUSION !! Come together into one bieng, both a mix of light and dark, this will completely cabbage Sol, he'll suffer a aneurysm from a result of it, then "Oshamae" falls in love with Qimir, they sleep together and Oshamae gets pregnant and eventually gives birth to a baby, who she calls Hego Damask. Calling it.
This video did not age well. Everything was so much worse. My biggest problems with this episode in chronological order:
1. Sol repeatedly saying "I did the right thing," whenever accused of killing their mother. He clearly regrets everything that happened. He killed her in a moment of panic because he didn't know what else to do. A mature person (which Sol otherwise seems to be) would not justify that kind of mistake and say "it was the right thing." You can't even use "too dangerous to be left alive" logic here because she wasn't threatening anyone except when threatened. He *thought* he was doing the right thing leading up to it, but things got out of hand, and he panicked and overreacted in the moment. But in retrospect, it's out of character for him to still think it was "the right thing" to kill her.
2. When Osha was choking Sol, the staging and the music all implied that it was a "good" thing. No ominous, dark-side tones. More "this is how it's supposed to be" vibes. Somehow, giving into your rage and force-choking someone to death isn't a tragedy anymore???
3. Wiping Mae's memory was the most ridiculous non-sensical decision Osha could have made. I get not wanting to stay because the Jedi would capture and imprison them, but if Osha is willing to go with Qimir, why can't Mae come too? She spent all that time with him before, why does fear of going back suddenly trump wanting to stay with her long-lost-presumed-dead sister? And even *if* staying with Qimir is unacceptable for Mae, why is (checks notes) *having him wipe her memory, leaving her to be captured by the Jedi, whom they are specifically avoiding* preferable to dropping her off on a random planet with her memory intact? If Osha can't trust him enough to make a deal and drop Mae off elsewhere, why does he trust him enough to *wipe her memory*???
4. Mae saying "this is what you were supposed to do" with no hint from the show that she's wrong. --See also point number 2. I can't believe we have to explain why this is a problem.
5. Vernestra coming to Yoda at the end has drastic implications, because either he is oblivious to her corruption, or he is part of it. Which could very quickly turn into a character assassination if the story is allowed to continue.
I was willing to give this show a chance. I was never impressed, but up to this episode, I could let it slide as "okay". Just clumsy writing with inconsistent characters. Poor quality, but nothing "bad" or lore-shattering. But THIS episode was a tragedy. I can no longer regard this an acceptable or even forgivable part of the Star Wars story.
Interesting points.
Regarding music, my favourite part of Infinity War is when it ends on a Major chord (happy) after the snap, so the music is “on Thanos’ side” briefly. I just mention this so we don’t make blanket rules that would limit better, more mature works of art, just because crap like the Acolyte gets it wrong.
(I’m not watching the Acolyte)
I just really hope it doesn't leave with a big cliff hanger ending setting up season 2. I've felt increasingly apathetic towards the series as its gone on and I want it to just end now.
Headland has said in interviews that she wanted season 1 to finish a story, and that a potential season 2 would build off of that. Not that absolutely everything would be resolved, but she is not a fan of cliffhangers.
Take that with an entire shaker of salt (and perhaps a twist of lime and a shot of tequila), but it would be one of the few bits of competent writing (alongside lethal lightsabers) demonstrated on this show if true.
@@JoRoq1 I hope that's true dude
It 100% will, because it’s basically required business wise
I think the women of the coven were all alive. And still living on the planet. I'm not even sure what the objective of the series is about. How the twins were created? The truth of the events on that planet? The presence of Sith? At least Obi-Wan just had to bring back a kidnapped child. And Boba had to defeat the Syndicate to secure his position. Clear cut objectives.
it's all been a dream, everyone lives happily ever after
They aren’t going to kill SmiloRen. The show runner said she wanted to do more with him if they got a s2
Been watching your excellent Acolyte dissections for awhile now, and finally subscribed today!
I think it should end with Yoda waking up and saying it was all a bad dream from spoiled blue milk. The only way it can go at this point.
No time, the scenes from 16 years ago are done. Sol dies, Osha does it, she becomes an Acolyte and Vernestra covers up everything.
You were right on the money lmao
in the immortal words of squidward tentacles, "something stupid I'm sure"
Knowing Leslie, one of the twins will become Plagueis
Plot twist: the twins were never a vergence, but rather the children of Qimir and the witch mother; and the jedi were so embarrassed they thought it was a vergence that they lied about the event to everyone.
Ki Ali Mundae did a lot of shrooms and forgot.
My predictions are it will ruin the storylines of Yoda, plaugus, tenebris, palpatine, and the droid attack on the wookies. Glad I won’t see it. Thanks for watching it Thor.
Sol kills Qimir, Qimir kills Sol. Osha and Mae merge as one and become a misty Grey Jedi who moves in with the Whills and becomes a girl-boss journal editor!
The merger is on my menu of predictions also.
The difference of events is Lesley actually thought she didn’t make a pile of dog shit meanwhile everyone else knows it’s garbage
Well, it can't be a long episode so it's going to have to ignore or leave behind several elements it brought up over the first five episodes. I predict it will magically leave out all the things from episodes 1 and 2, we won't get any explanation for Torbin, angry green jedi will never be ousted as being the true villain, smilo ren will give up and the twins will flip flop again to try to bring some tension to the final moments
I predict it will be the fattest, most uninteresting episode of any show, ever lol
Leslye Headland said in an interview that we are going to find our exactly.how the twins were created. Which would mean someone who was there when that happened will have to reveal that to the viewer. Who is that? The witches are dead and Mother Koril is said to be gone. Seemingly a Sith was there, perhaps helping to create the twins (a first attempt at creating life) and they will reveal how it happened to the audience?
I think the truth is that the main mother is actually a transsexual male who used his self-denied "force" to create the twins.
Or maybe she won't give us any real explanation at all, and just repeat what we already knew.
Ugh.
I didnt think they could top the lows of Kenobi or the 2nd half of BoBF but.. well to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum “You did it, you crazy sonsabitches”
We learn about something and it goes away with thunderous applause
My Power Of Many action figure collection will be worth a fortune one day. I just wish they made that turns into smoke. Fingers crossed.
Beaver will be sith master in the end.
My prediction?
Pain.
Mae has to be the one to kill Sol, and I'm reasonably sure she'll do it without a weapon, because that's been set up as a thing and foreshadowed far too hard to just go nowhere. Possibly this will allow her to earn forgiveness from her master as she is completing his wishes, but I don't really see where that goes. Whatever happens you can be sure it will be almost impossibly dumb.
Imagine Osha gets renamed to "Darth Plagueis" 😂😂😂😂
YASSSSS! YAASSSS! She can inherit the Smilo helmet so that Palpatine doesn't realize that "he" is a she (or they go back and edit ROTS with "they/them" lol)
Gandalf will show up, whimsically flying on top of Hedwig. Then, the Joker will throw kryptonite bombs from the crossbow he got at Winterfell. Finally, the cast of Cats will show up…. Fade to black.
Would probably be better than the slop disney will serve the audience
Thank you Thor. I've really enjoyed your reviews of this show. I am part of the vast majority who just plain missed this show through apathy. Your videos however, have been religiously followed.
Qimir was present on Brendok, probably drew the attention of the Jedi order to the planet. Manipulated things using the dark side of the force. He wanted Osha since she, as a more light side oriented force user, would be inherently more powerful if turned to the dark side. The events in the compound - stone catching fire, the power supply exploding, the witches dying (after losing control over Kelnacca) was all intended to make a plausible explanation that everyone killed everyone else. Endara threw a money wrench into his plans when she freed Kelnacca from the witches control as that would leave too many witnesses (i.e. the other Jedi) for him to kill Sol and make off with Osha. Qimir using dark side of the force killed all the witches because if they recovered their senses they would realize they had been manipulated. He did influence Sol to save Osha over Mae but had to settle for Mae and train her to eliminate the Jedi who had been present on Brendok.
Whether there was a Sith behind Qimir, don't know.
I am just a normie so I know nothing of the EU, etc. 🤔
If you said to me in the 70-80s that star wars is going to be a witch heavy series and Luke is a bum, i would cried my eyes out.
Interesting prediction about Qimir being killed! We'll have to see what happens.
I think Qimir is going to survive the end of the season, because they seem to be setting him up as a sort of dark side version of Sol. Osha came this far thanks to Sol, now Qimir will take her on the next stage of her journey.
Logically mae didn't really learn anything new from the last ep. So her motivations shouldn't change. Osha hasn't learned anything new either, so her motivations shouldn't change either. Unless something big happens.
Their motivations have changed 180 degrees plenty of times. They should wear a picture of flip flop footwear on their clothes. Are you being sarcastic?
I think Qimir and Sol will have to join forces to defeat the twins and Qimir's master the green female Jedi with the whip lightsaber. In the end Sol, Qimir and the twins all are defeated and the master will either get away or some strand thing will happen that will explain why the Jedi counsel never hears nothing about this. Because the only way that could happen is everyone dies because of a disaster or freak accident making the council unaware or something. Even though its dumb and impossible and only rips apart yet another section of star wars legacy
I have a feeling that one of the sisters will be seriously injured and the other sister will take her to the bakku tree (or whatever its called) and will infuse her life force into her, becoming one entity. It has to be done at the center of the vergence, the tree
After the way Qimir handled all the Jedi at one time I do not think anyone could question the fact that he is a legit Sith. Combine that with the fact that the green bald headed female Jedi is his master simply based off of the fact that her light saber whip would be the only thing I can think of that could cause those scars on Qimis back.
I’d be surprised if the ending is as perfectly written as what you’ve surmised
That's some real fan-fic level predictions 🤨
True but
7:28 - 7:48 was word for word what actually happened lmao
I predict Mae or Osha dies and they form into one person as the one who is dead gets to transfer into the alive one’s body. Same symbiont, split consciousness. It’s stupid but the entire show has been that way. And Sol likely dies. I prefer if everyone dies except Qimir. Then start Season 2 focused on him.
they probably won't answer anything. the clues are already in the show, we just have to figure them out instead of giving us answers to soothe our minds. I hope they don't make a season two. I think if it's a bunch of unanswered questions (that you can figure out) it makes it more unique.
My prediction is as I posted earlier Osha probably turns to the dark side wearing that helmet. Since my belief is that they are (in Leslyes way of the thread) in balance, Mae will be going over to the light.
I also belive they are in a conection so if only one gets killed, she will turn upp under the tree.
I think Sol gets killed, not sure here but I think Sol killes Qimir maybe together with Venestra. Since she can be Qimir's sith master, Venestra tries to "seduce" Sol to join her. When he refuse she kills him. She also kills that assistant Mod? cause he suspects her being evil/sith. Since none of the involving Jedi was killed, venestra can give the senate whatever story she wants about the missing jedi. Probably Osha and Mae survives hoping for a second season
At this point I’m thinking that our stubborn mouse friend just really didn’t like that the “watch in timeline order” of Star Wars on Disney plus was a project that they didn’t have a part in, and they just wanted their name on the first title in the timeline no matter what it was. The show never had to be good it just had to put Disney first 😭
Hey Thor, this isn't about the Acolyte but Andor. Do you think if season 2 is able to achieve what season 1 couldn't. That is bringing the broader fan base in and feeling more like Star wars. Do you think we could see more grounded shows/movies. Maybe even more from Tony Gilroy in Star wars?
I don’t see how season 2 could hope to achieve that if season 1 couldn’t. Less people will watch season 2 than season 1, so it’s unfortunately impossible
@@albertanmotorcyclist6419 I don't know about impossible. Maybe unlikely. Best thing going for Andor's viewership would be it's good publicity. Others telling other to watch it. My hope would be that more people would be looking forward to it being one of the only well received star wars projects in years
I don’t think that Qimir could have been there when the witches died. He would have, at most, been a padawan at that time, as he looks to be close in age to Osha/Mae. But he definitely wasn’t a Sith at that time because his Jedi master would have had to have punished him with their weapon. Hitting anyone like that would be extremely out of character for a Jedi.
So...I decided to watch this AFTER Thor's Reiw of Ep 8 (I have not seen it myself)
This already sounds better and makes a lot more sence
The power of many - the coven. The power of two - the twins. The power of one - either the sith lord or the twins united as one. Sorry, I haven't feel well; must have been a fever dream...
I'm thinking it might end with Sol being killed but I'm unsure about Mae. Honestly, I'm been worried it'll just end in Sol and Mae dying in an unrelated thing or the continuation of the current story is left until a Season Two which won't end up getting made thanks to the backlash.
I bet that the finale has Osha kill May, then she shows up to Shmi's great-grandfather's house and claims that she is a Skywalker.
So no one is going to like this but if they go down the route of showing things from Qimir's perspective of the events on Brendock (Please no not again). But if Qimir is there possibly with his master (Actor David Harewood is supposed to be in the finale and it has been speculated he will be Darth Tenebrous and because Tenebrous is not currently canon he may no longer be a Bith and maybe Plagueis will no longer be a Muun). So basically I can see Qimir being revealed as Plagueis and he killed his master on Brendock 16 years earlier and took Mae as his apprentice. Sol and Mae will then die in this episode and Osha will kill Sol without a weapon becoming Qimir/Plagueis's apprentice and he will give her a sith name. Obviously she will fail as a sith in some way so Palpatine will eventually become Plagueis's apprentice. But Osha and Mae's existence will start Plagueis on the path to experimenting with Midi-Chlorians which will lead to the Force creating Anakin in retaliation. So on a scale of 1-10 how pi***d off would everyone be if this is what happens more or less. I do think if they are going to have a season 2 they cant kill off both of their only worthwhile characters (Sol & Qimir) even if they do bring some other sith lord into it.
I thought you did a video on the post episode 7 headland interview. In it she states that qoral and qimir don’t know each other
My prediction: Everyone but the twins and the formal, not-aware-of-the-Sith Jedi will die and the twins will become the new Sith pair to carry on. Any future plans will just be more "interesting" Mae/Osha antics.
Remember, the showrunners really don't know Star Wars lore and what little they do know, they don't respect. Any promises of Tenebrous or Plagueis are just desperate marketing ploys to win over the fanbase they thought they'd just replace. They think just having the bad guys win is shocking enough for viewers because they don't know the lore and how often that has already happened (including a little-known film trilogy from the early 2000s).
Every time fans try to guess what Disney Star Wars will be, they always put WAY more thought and love into their ideas than what becomes the official storyline. Star Wars has always encouraged us to think bigger and more intense, but Disney, for all its budget and reach, thinks small.
My bet is honestly: They don't really.
Just seeing how they failed to write a story that makes sense in itself, characters that have understandable motivations, how they failed to take time and space into consideration... well how would they manage to actually wrap this up in a way that makes sense.
I don't think the ending will be satisfying, nor will it answer all of the questions it set up.
Prediction: Somehow Palpatine returns .. as the little furry tracker dude and ULTIMATE POWER's all them fools
It will all be over soon. Thankfully.
Osha is possessed by the helmet and season 2 is set up for Mae to exorcise an ancient Sith lord from her estranged sister.
I just started watching The Boys on Prime yesterday. The contrast to the Acolyte is astronomical, I binged the whole season 1 in two days because there was tension left after every episode and I really wanted to see what happens next.
Comparing to the Acolyte, after every episode I have not felt any urge to watch another right after it. It was actually good that there only comes 1 episode per week, otherwise I dont think I would have had the stomach to watch this through.
I know that Boys has comic base material to pull out of but I dont think that justifies the poor story quality of the Acolyte in any way.
About the only thing that will win me over at this point is if we finally see Yoda's fateful encounter with the seagulls.
Quimir had to have been there for shirtless male black jedi to recognize him before he was killed.
Not completely right but you caught a lot of notes of the finale!
Kamir faces his former master (green Jedi ) and struggles. Begs Ohsa to help him and she helps kill her, turning Ohsa to the dark side. Mae watches this and is like NO!!! and goes with Sol. It copies and ruins Anakins pivotal scene in ROTS, so right up their alley.
It doesn't matter if Smylo Ren influenced or taught Coral? Koral? Spikeface witch or if Spikeface witch is Smylo Ren's Sith Master or if Spikeface and Smylo are actually the same being. Shaved her horns off and got a sex change. Leslye Headband is going to have Mae and Osha join to have the power of two in order to defeat him, her or them. Sol will die. Turtle head Jedi or Discount Gamora Jedi; take your pick, will lie to the Council about what happened. This will explain why Ki-Adi-Mundi never learned about the presence of the Sith.
So, even if Sol's death looks like a noble sacrifice to redeem his past mistakes, the Jedi still look like sanctimonious, duplicitous losers. LH isn't going to do anything positive for the Jedi in the finale. Finally, some thread will be left hanging with a clue that there is another Sith we haven't seen or been told about, who is the real puppet master. This will be the bait to interest viewers; the few that remain, in a second season of The Coprolite.