Why Great Drummers Are Better Than Us (
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2022
- What do Larnell Lewis, Sarah Thawer, and Mark Guiliana have in common?
They’re all great drummers. But what makes them so great? Why do they sound so good?
In this quick tip, Nate Smith (aka “The 80/20 Drummer”) explains how note placement is a key reason top drummers sound better than the rest of us. And you don’t have to be ‘born with it’ to learn how to improve where and how you hit the drums.
Nate shares his favorite analogy about note placement and shows you a few metronome exercises to improve your timing. Give them a try!
And if you want to dive deeper -- we have hundreds of lessons hosted by many of the drumming greats mentioned in this video inside Drumeo. Try it out here for free with a 7-day trial: drumeo.com/trial-10007
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Bout time Drumeo got Nate in....A Great dude and educator.
Amen 👌🏽
Amen
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Hell yeah Gareth!
Awesome dude! 👍
Simply put, they practiced the right shit on a consistent basis. One thing that held back my playing for many years is consistency. If you want to be great, you gotta do it consistently and gradually moving out of your comfort zone.
Finally Nate is on Drumeo! I'm huge fan of both channels and I've been waiting this for years!
Thanks for the great video!
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Same
Likewise.
Hell yeah Nate glad to see you on Drumeo
Yoooooo 💪💪
This Guy is Brilliant, his knowledge is sooo deep. We need more of his concepts, please.
Nate is the brutal honesty we all need.
@Bronson Tolliver I agree. And I’m glad he figured out how to deliver that brutal honesty without alienating newcomers.
I’be followed Nate for a long time. It’s GREAT to have him on Drumeo!! He sees the “inside” perspective on things that we all observe, but that we don’t really understand the details of.
Each one of your educators brings something different, yet they all come together to make Drumeo a “go to” in drum education.
Thank you, Jared, and Nate!!!
Thanks for the kind words! 💙
Less GOOOO😃
Easily the most informative, killer, and most importantly: useful, lesson in forever. Thanks.
Glad you like it, Jared!
Aaaaaw 😀😀😀
Amen
Nate is such a great teacher, he reminds me of my drum teacher. Very helpful with the visual analogy!
So happy to see Nate here. He is an amazing educator and always keep uploading his videos in his channel!
Very cool seeing Nate up in the house 👊🏾😎
Watched Nate for a long time and got pretty excited when he popped up here! Would absolutely love a full length lesson from him!
Oh wow! This has been so cool to see these RUclips drummers showing up, like Rob "Beatdown" Brown, Camille Bigeault, and now Nate!
Glad you like it, Jeremy!
That was fun! Easily one of my favourite Drumeo videos yet. I already followed/enjoyed Nates stuff but the production quality here along with the visuals/sense of humour intermixed was a beautiful blend of approachable education. Thank you. 🙏
Cheers!
One thing I like most about Sarah Thawer is that she’s got the absolute best stank face. She’s obviously an amazing player, but her facial expressions just totally get me into whatever she’s doing. It’s not some practiced thing, she’s just feeling it, and it makes me feel it all the more. So good.
This is all put together so well! Production, content, clips, playing and the drums sound amazing as usual. Well done Nate and Drumeo! ❤️🤘🎉
Thanks!
👍 Great practice idea! I've been doing this for few hours and my groove and fill is sound much better right after.
I always practice with quarter note click offbeat and this is much more fun to me.
Big thanks again for Drumeo 🙏
I love this guy, he's brought drumming down to realistic goals that build foundations for all drummers to build greatness upon
Thank you Nate and Drumeo.
Much appreciated.
Cheers.
Being able to displace the beat by 8th's and 16th's along with a click was one of the hardest things I ever learned how to do. Because I (we) was raised on rock and roll radio it took soooo long to be able to escape that backbeat as we've been trained to find it. Now I can slip in and out of it at will but it wasn't easy
Hello from Kansas City, Missouri. Great Video Nate. What it takes to be a Great Drummer are a number of things that are Simple but not Easy. Specifically, Tone, Time, Feel, Articulation, Dynamics, Rhythms, Sticking, Instrumentation. But also things like Being on Time, Learning a Song Quickly, Efficient Rehearsals etc. Also for anyone that's interested, Nate Smiths 80/20 Drummer Website and RUclips Channel are easily two of the Best sites and channels for Drummers, especially for Jazz. Thanks.
Brilliantly performed and explained by one of the great teachers out there Nate👌🥁
Oh hell yeah! Finally! A long time fan of both, great to see the crossover finally happening! :)
That’s a really interesting and cool way to think about…well, a lot of things. Great practice ideas, too. Thanks guys.
Cheers Cody!
Great combination! Drumeo and Nate ! Love and appreciate both. Thanks for the lesson
Nate and Drumeo, two great tastes that go well together! Awesome video Nate and Frumeo!
Such an amazing analogy, Nate!
Thanks Nate! Love the parking space analogy! And hearing the metronome on different parts of the beat - works great - to me it’s like playing a groove with a percussionist!
As a long time subscriber to Nate and Drumeo it's great they've done something together. Good lesson. 👍
Whoa!! Nate! So glad to see him here. Been following him for a while. Great lesson! Really excited about working on this.
that was awesome! thanks 80/20! and drumeo
Very good. In New Zealand we need this. Thanks Mr Nate.
this opened my eyes back when I saw it on Nate's channel.. great lesson
This really reminds me of how flow is really important to get a good groove while filling. Bill Bruford does a great example of it. I hope you guys do an episode on him!
Great job in getting the process across!!! Cant think of a better way of explaining playing on,behind and ahead of the beat than the parking space scenario 😉👏👍✌🏼
This was great! Thanks for having him on, Drumeo - I hope there's a lot more to come. Nate is a fantastic no-nonsense educator that takes tricky-to-first-grab concepts and charts a great path to understanding!
thanks!
Great to see Nate on Drumeo! To me, he has a real life approach to drumming, but has the unique ability to see certain details that most of us do not. Very cool, hope to see more of him on Drumeo. 👍🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
I've been waiting a long time for this one.... awesome. Nate is a great professor.
Great to see Nate here!
And to hear him on a kit that isn't all busted up 🤣
awesome class, love the way he educates
So cool to see you here Nate! 👍
Love Nate, great to see him on the channel. Wicked insight from a great educator who can really elevate everyone's playing regardless of level 🙌
thanks so much
Nate is really one of the best youtube teachers. Big up from France Drumeo !
I'm not a drummer but I enjoy learning how music "works", and this was an amazing, informative video.
This lesson will make me sign up for Drumeo! Nate is excellent!!!
Love that guy Nate been learning off him for years now
Love this guy! Awesome to see him at Drumeo ✌🏻
This was great. I watch 80/20 as well at times. This lesson reminds of Phil Rudd on a song like 'Back In Black'. It is simple beat, but if you listen closely, Rudd is in a pocket that is unbelievable. It's deceptively simple pattern, but its all how Rudd plays it. It comes with time to develop feel.
Simply put. You gotta swing no matter what you play. Metal/ Rock Pop Jazz. It's feel and pocket is harder than 8 bar riffs . Once you get over I gotta show out than put those 32 fills and really blow them away. Peace out.
Rudd is widely known for playing just the right amount of "behind the beat", leaving that big open space per bar for the guitars and bass to fill it to the brim. and it works beautifully.
Love Nate, great to see him here finally
Wow! I’ve been watching 80/20 for years and for some reason thought he oughta be working for/with Drumeo all along. The drumming union/community is second to none amongst musicians
This is so awesome. I’m a better drummer than I was 2 years ago and by a lot because of my teachers in Lima, Peru and also because of you Nate. That tip of keeping things hitting at the same time and the off beat 16ths helped me a lot.
Great lesson! Nate is awesome. :)
finally your drumskit sounds excellent :D congratulations!
Great explanation of a topic not discussed often enough!
Perfect illustration
..really cool motorcycle analogy, kept me tuned in the whole lesson. You should have him back!
Wow. Nate! Cool to see you at Drumeo!
So glad to see Nate Smith on Drumeo!
This is the best video Drumeo has ever put up....by farrrr.
You look so professional all dressed up, got to get used to the new look, congratulations, I knew they were going to nab you, always loved your authenticity and style, keep moving forward
The theorisation of Nate with the production value of Drumeo is a banger. We need this as a régular serie.
Great to see Nate here !!
So useful! Thanks 🙏
Nate is a good man also a great drummer and the best teacher
So glad to see Nate here. So cool
Cheers Juan!
I've been wishing for this collaboration for years.
damn didn't expect seeing you here man! great job on the lesson, ur a legend!
Yay Nate you made it dude!!
I love the analogy of the motorcycle in the parking spot, but really you're just timing your hesitations.
I feel it's more like the resolution of a TV screen. When we first start playing time, the pixels are all big, and there's really only "approximately near the beat" or "way off". As we get better, the pixels get smaller, and you can find the center of the beat. So while physically what might be happening is we have to have the mechanics line up so we can place the note where we hear it, what I'm talking about is even farther up the brainstem, and has to do with how accurately we're HEARING the spot we need to calibrate the hesitation of our body to place the note. If that makes any sense.
@@8020drummer I can see what you're saying here. As our resolution gets larger over time, our abilities are better suited to placing the hits within the pixels where others may not even be able to perceive.
AWESOME NATE,,,BEEN FOLLOWING YOU FOR YEARS...EVEN BOUGHT A COUPLE OF COURSES FROM YOU....WELL DESERVED TO BE ON DRUMEO..KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
thanks so much
The most under rated drummer is Joey Kramer from Aerosmith. You can really hear how great he is by listening to Aerosmith live without Joey during this current tour compared to Aerosmith with Joey Kramer. When they did their Nine Lives album, Joey wasn’t there for the recording so they used a session drummer…when Joey came back they scrapped the whole album and re-recorded it with Joey.
Listen to Get your wings and Rocks some of Joey's best. Just some.
Nice, a fellow SensusFidelium subscriber
I love Weckel Gadd Phillips etc. But I Love Me some Kramer. Very underated!!!
Also one of my favorites. Mark Carney gone to soon. Listen to Gino's Brother to Brother. Craney not Carney. Sorry.
Wtf!
Nate on Drumeo!
FINALLY!
Been an 80/20 sub since 2017 truly an academic
Great lesson!
Cheers!
Congrats Nate!
That drums SOUND SICK.
Pretty cool to have 80/20 on here! Damn cool drumeo
Awesome !!
Great Job! Thx!!
Cheers!
Glad to see you here!
Wow!! Just wow!!
Underrated lesson
Love Nate!
Drumeo is not just THE best drum education online, it is a great, supportive community 😊
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The guy that got my drumming off the ground. Been watching this guy’s videos since before I was a drummer.
When I manage to practice every day for a while I begin to feel like I’m getting close, especially on a good day where I’m just jamming along with my favorite tunes
Then I miss a few days due to boring responsibilities and when I come back I’m sloppy, takes a while to warm up, and I struggle to lock up with the beat real tight. Really frustrating when I just can’t manage to play at the level I know I’m capable of, or at least want to be capable of.
Used to be a lot of emphasis on breathing - the physical act of breathing - through fills and rhythms. Has a big effect on the “fudge factor”.
Thanx!! 🙌🏾
Finally some recognition for Nate.
I like the parking space concept, I discovered the idea of what Nate calls the parking space here when I was doing exercises to improve my weak hand (left). I would add task to the left during fills and added notes to hi hat and ride as a warm up and found myself covering the snare more with the right hand. Doing this made me double think timing and iron out the rough spots, sometimes by adding a double or creating a rest note. It forced me to slow down and when I did I found so much room inside the beat that it unleashed new creativity. Nate is dropping a really good nugget here for those who haven’t already discovered the space between where music lives.
Another thing that separates these exceptional drummers from a more average drummer is their intuitive use of dynamics, pace, feel and momentum.
@@kimrapley3721 which is *kind of* a different way to say the same thing? (But we agree) BTW I can't take credit for the parking space. That comes from my friend Ian Allison.
Finally, 80/20. Nicely done.
Excellent
Wooo Nate made it on!!
HE’S ON DRUMEOOOOO
Zack next tho
Nate for the win!
my mind is 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 and I often wondered why does these great drummers sound better.
I'm 1 minute in, and can't wait to hear what Nate sounds like on an un-busted, actual kit!!
Good to see at least one Nate Smith appeared on Drumeo. Now for the 'real' Nate Smith. ;)
The cool thing is the green hoodie homie wasn't trying to outplay the "bad drummer" He was helping him sound better. Bringing him up and that's what music is about.
Nate is great!