8 HUGE MISTAKES Drummers In Bands Make (AVOID THESE!) - Drum Beats Online

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @DrumBeatsOnline
    @DrumBeatsOnline  4 года назад +16

    Which one of these do you need to work on the most?? Let me know!
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    • @anthonybianco9909
      @anthonybianco9909 4 года назад +1

      Gabe,
      Been a fan for quite sometime, your videos have helped my drumming, self awareness and control become more productive. I do have a question that I see a lot of RUclipsrs talk about but don’t really explain well let alone include the process. Running a portable in ear monitor system and plugging in into a house system.

    • @OutLaw1993GT
      @OutLaw1993GT 4 года назад +1

      Drum Beats Online Limb independence for sure!

    • @gabrielfrench8382
      @gabrielfrench8382 4 года назад

      Honestly, I've just been noticing small details in my playing that are making me sound a bit less professional than I could be, such as hi-hat dynamics like you mentioned or what to play when there isn't a part written for a specific element of a song. This Sunday, I'm finally back to playing live, but it's going to be a bit odd playing with a mask on--definitely something I'm going to have to practice. I feel pretty confident with how my playing has gone, I just hope that since I've been away from playing live for so long that it doesn't suffer on-stage...

    • @carlonadalini965
      @carlonadalini965 4 года назад

      was the melody from paranoid?

    • @shivadash5551
      @shivadash5551 3 года назад

      Hlo sir i am from,nepal an i follow u. Plz give u r Facebook id or Instagram id

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 4 года назад +108

    Learning to drum in a band can prove many things to being a drummer, from cooperation to new experiences. Awesome work man!

  • @jasondrew6369
    @jasondrew6369 4 года назад +42

    I've been playing live and local for 20 years. One important thing I've learned is don't take it for granted. I've admittedly been burnt out at times but after sitting on my ass for 3 months because of covid, I have a greater appreciation for how lucky we are to have drumming, and live music in general. Great channel. Great video.

    • @DrumBeatsOnline
      @DrumBeatsOnline  4 года назад +1

      I hear that Jason!

    • @Ticonderous1
      @Ticonderous1 4 года назад +1

      I hear you brother .. down here in Australia we have only had around 6 weeks out of lockdown and just started jamming again ..now we are heading in for another lockdown... Sure makes you appreciate what we use to take for granted....

    • @allenmitchell09
      @allenmitchell09 4 года назад +2

      I had one of my best years booked and shaping up when Covid hit. I got a gig this weekend finally. My first since the cancellations. I have been really missing it. Playing at home by yourself is nothing like drumming in a band especially at a gig. So I definitely feel you.

  • @keenman0403
    @keenman0403 4 года назад +48

    The first half of that “complex” drum part sounded quite good tbh

    • @juanjosemoyasierra5883
      @juanjosemoyasierra5883 4 года назад +6

      if he keep like this it would have sounded so good

    • @robmontero5238
      @robmontero5238 4 года назад +2

      Thought the same haha

    • @superjanembaishappy5512
      @superjanembaishappy5512 4 года назад +13

      The thing is it's not about the drum part sounding good. It's about how it fits in the song. I'll admit the complex part was super cool on its own but you can't hear the keyboard and that's where the focus should be.

    • @danfawcett8056
      @danfawcett8056 4 года назад

      Bruh

    • @joetroutt7425
      @joetroutt7425 4 года назад +3

      Oh God the drummers I know that play like this and then I step in and play my pocket fills and the whole band just smiles and grooves.

  • @TonyMacaroni69_
    @TonyMacaroni69_ 4 года назад +104

    "each note is an opportunity"
    -Gabe Helguera, 2020
    I like that

  • @janocronismo
    @janocronismo 4 года назад +24

    1. Less is good; don’t be afraid of playing “easy” parts.
    2. Practice your parts, either with the whole band or by yourself.
    3. Don’t throw the sticks or any drum gear to anyone! Especially to your SO.
    4. Have fun... Always have fun!

    • @tonyprendergast5194
      @tonyprendergast5194 4 года назад +3

      Not all heroes have capes thank you so much I could tell by the first two minutes he likes to talk.

  • @k_fips3518
    @k_fips3518 4 года назад +14

    My band has been growing a lot recently and you are honestly a massive part of the growth! Thank you for these videos !!

  • @shauryagambhir1920
    @shauryagambhir1920 4 года назад +10

    I'm not even in a band or do gigs but I love this video

  • @ege999men8
    @ege999men8 4 года назад +170

    Lesson learned: don't throw sticks at your gf

  • @phile5437
    @phile5437 4 года назад +29

    One mistake I'm quite familiar with is playing drums while everyone takes 5 hours to get in tune.

    • @Max-dd4ow
      @Max-dd4ow 3 года назад +1

      It’s the same when I play at my church, the guitar players take forever to tune and I just wanna jam

    • @MeshuggahFan-iy6tb
      @MeshuggahFan-iy6tb Месяц назад

      You know it’s bad when the drummer is set up and ready to go before the guitar players 😂😂

  • @andysimmons311
    @andysimmons311 4 года назад +12

    Haven’t watch it yet but I already know it’s going to be good!

  • @DrumSticksOnline
    @DrumSticksOnline 4 года назад +14

    DBO ACADEMY IS ACTUALLY AMAZING!!!!

    • @DrumBeatsOnline
      @DrumBeatsOnline  4 года назад +3

      So happy to have you a part of the #DBOFamily Ben!

  • @metallicarocks911
    @metallicarocks911 4 года назад +2

    In terms with mistake number one, you are so right.
    If you ever have listened to 'Sound of Muzak' by Porcupine Tree... The groove is in 7, but it has the right amount of pocket, an even pulse, and a laid back feel... Perfect example of how a drum part SHOULD be.

  • @sunlit2590
    @sunlit2590 4 года назад +5

    Drummers always forget they are playing drums for a band, not to impress other drummers. Be part of the unit, not yourself.

    • @JBtacoma
      @JBtacoma 4 года назад +2

      Same goes for guitarists and singer even more so from almost 20 years of playing.

    • @remoevans2793
      @remoevans2793 4 года назад

      Says every guitar player that tries to play every note on the scale while incorporating finger tapping regardless of the tempo and melody of the song 😂😂

    • @sunlit2590
      @sunlit2590 4 года назад +1

      I'm a drummer lol. I just wish I understood this 10 years ago.

  • @JascoDuendeGuitar
    @JascoDuendeGuitar 4 года назад +3

    Great video. As a non-drummer, the main things that turn me off to drummers I work with is too busy, too loud.

  • @calebfilm5898
    @calebfilm5898 2 года назад

    I thanks to you Gave because you provide different types of playing and many more .. and you are also my inspiration

  • @madjackjoe9392
    @madjackjoe9392 4 года назад +3

    I always find my self sitting waiting for your videos man I’ve been watching your videos for about 2 years now and I can safely say that your an idol of mine now, keep making videos for us all too enjoy 😆

    • @DrumBeatsOnline
      @DrumBeatsOnline  4 года назад +1

      That's such a huge compliment and I don't take it lightly! I'm so happy that my videos are a part of your weekly life!

  • @gabrielnara9202
    @gabrielnara9202 4 года назад +1

    Hey Gabe, my name is Gabe too lol, i am a proud bassist but i am learning to play the drums because i think it is a very cool instrument and i have learned a few basic beats and avoiding bad habits because of you, so i want to thank you for your awesome videos and i wish one day i will be as cool as you... Stay awesome Gabe, God Bless You...

    • @DrumBeatsOnline
      @DrumBeatsOnline  4 года назад

      Thanks so much for the kind words Gabe! Keep up the great work my friend!

  • @ScienceAppliedForGood
    @ScienceAppliedForGood 4 года назад +1

    It was very helpful advice. I really liked the working out your own kinks part, before going to the repetition with the band. It's so true.

  • @shadydayspecialofficial7767
    @shadydayspecialofficial7767 4 года назад +6

    Loving the content man! Very helpful!

  • @yaboibdc
    @yaboibdc 4 года назад +2

    Wow! Love your cool ideas and content!

  • @midnighthymn
    @midnighthymn 4 года назад +1

    This is very helpful as I just passed my audition to play drums at church. Subscribed!

    • @remoevans2793
      @remoevans2793 4 года назад

      Wow, your church must have a lot of drummers in the congregation 😁

  • @FredRochaNet
    @FredRochaNet 9 месяцев назад

    I needed this for my next gig.

  • @alexniederhauser8562
    @alexniederhauser8562 3 года назад

    I've always needed to come back more to certain foundations in my focus, and wasn't until more recently that the focus has birthed this intention in action...
    I still feel like I've been primarily a rhythmic showboater, that rarely actively trusts in giving way to allow nature's wakes and winds to more simply guide me through Cape Ability...
    Thank you for these helpful pointers, Gabe

  • @ruthpine-apple9860
    @ruthpine-apple9860 4 года назад +9

    The super complex groove at the start made me laugh out loud
    I've seen over drumming happen too often, but maybe not quite that extreme hahaha
    Great video!!

  • @abytoommen4354
    @abytoommen4354 4 года назад +1

    You are the best man thanks for the information you are the best drummer

  • @JoshKlinglerDrums
    @JoshKlinglerDrums 4 года назад

    These videos have dramatically helped my playing and what I bring to my band. You rock!

  • @dutchbikegirl
    @dutchbikegirl 3 года назад

    Great great tips, and your picture is gorgeous which makes it so nice to watch too. I'm sitting down on my drum stool again after a bunch of silent yet busy years. Making this inner dream come true. Hope to find all the tips I need in your channel. X

  • @kevinanthony3144
    @kevinanthony3144 3 года назад

    Just signed up for the waitlist im excited your videos that you can access for free on youtube have helped me in so many ways already and i hope i can learn more :)

  • @JayKayEllEmm
    @JayKayEllEmm 2 месяца назад

    I sometimes intentionally drop a stick while I’m practicing just to make sure that I’m ready for it when it really happens.

  • @clueken13
    @clueken13 Год назад

    Dude you’re freaking awesome. I’d really like to join and become a student. I’ll check out the enrollment soon but thank you for all the tips and knowledge.

  • @easilydistracted1397
    @easilydistracted1397 11 месяцев назад

    Very useful-thanks!!

  • @adamblevins1435
    @adamblevins1435 4 года назад

    You had me at #1! I think the tendency to overplay comes from the idea that when you're getting paid to play, some drummers feel that they need to constantly throw in their flashiest stuff to prove that they're 'worth it'. The way I view it is that they aren't paying for my licks, but for my experience and musicianship. Anybody can woodshed a few fancy licks, but it takes years of experience to know what's appropriate to play in any given situation.

  • @amwitty_
    @amwitty_ 4 года назад

    Playing small shows around town, dropping a stick has become my thing. I don't mean to do it, but when it happens I lean into it

  • @noampitlik2332
    @noampitlik2332 4 года назад +2

    In the first part, with the to examples, we need to have more context to go by. Both have a place.

    • @minhuang8848
      @minhuang8848 4 года назад

      Yeah, that sounded like a nice Dillinger Escape Plan break later in a song or something, it just is very context sensitive.

  • @lokinslawomir0793
    @lokinslawomir0793 Год назад +1

    There definitely is still subjective taste when feeling what fits best with a groove, which is a problem that can still come up and can be frustrating. That’s where finding compromises with your band mates is hugely important. And not dying on a hill insisting on what you want every time. It’s a lot like marriage lol 😂 having all the pieces of a song needed to write to it is important too so you’re not missing nuances only writing your drum parts to the guitar/bass/vocals, but rather write to it all together as a whole the outcome will always be better.

  • @mondragon9282
    @mondragon9282 4 года назад +1

    That spontaneous complex fill is me 100%. I gotta get that under control. Lol

  • @darkblox8151
    @darkblox8151 4 года назад +1

    i cant get into dbo acedemy bc of waitlist im waiting tho to get in!

  • @zenlee1109
    @zenlee1109 4 года назад

    Great video. Im guilty of too many of these and needed this reminder /guidance. Thank you Gabe!

  • @NewEnglandPatriotsfan
    @NewEnglandPatriotsfan 4 года назад

    The hardest part for me is being steady and not sounding faster or slower than the previous chorus. And hitting the snare on a side and it makes a click sound lol. But drumming is lots of fun!!

  • @sammdylanpickup994
    @sammdylanpickup994 Год назад

    A technique used in the 1st example of "playing to the music" was an awesome ditty with a hoop tap fill.
    If anyone knows the name of the hihat and snare ghost note pattern, please let me know by replying or reaching out.
    I'll keep trying to work it out.
    Thanks in advance

  • @JimChaffin
    @JimChaffin 3 года назад

    Love it bro! Very practical and applicable.

  • @dwaynecolson4232
    @dwaynecolson4232 4 года назад +1

    This is so true

  • @cbgranger11
    @cbgranger11 4 года назад +1

    Unless your RUSH, where the drums are as important and noteable as lead guitar, keyboards, lead singer, etc....

  • @johngavin1448
    @johngavin1448 4 года назад

    Loving the visuals!!! Amazing video as always

  • @Big_C_4205
    @Big_C_4205 4 года назад +1

    Yeah, when I try to make something too complex, it almost never works out well lol.

  • @dilboom9707
    @dilboom9707 3 года назад

    If I can play a worship song EXACTLY how the drum track is.. example graves into gardens.. but sometimes other worship songs have more drum input.. should I still play it or back off a bit .. (for church worship set)

  • @harperbros.4355
    @harperbros.4355 9 месяцев назад

    thanks for this will help

  • @andrewwarrendrums8969
    @andrewwarrendrums8969 4 года назад

    These are some awesome tips Gabe! Definitely things to be aware of as a drummer! 🤩

  • @pipmeister2103
    @pipmeister2103 4 года назад

    See this way to often. I play in a 50’s/60’s cover band so pretty straight forward with a lot of swing, shuffles & eights. There are drum fills but not to complex. I always play for the song & push & pull of the song played

  • @eddieavakian
    @eddieavakian 3 года назад

    Great video Gabe. Good info.

  • @lankududniteshift
    @lankududniteshift 3 года назад

    What i am so very impressed with, apart from your very good & true advise, is that your drum sound in this video is super awesome! And oh, your drumming is also superb! I have subscribed... 👏👏👏👍👍👍

  • @Commtechphoenix
    @Commtechphoenix 3 года назад

    Hey man,
    I’m sure you’ve been asked this a million and one times. But What’s that cymbal set up? I love them!

  • @darkblox8151
    @darkblox8151 4 года назад +1

    I broke my wrist after a drum axedent im fine just got a wraped up wrist rn I was ppmoving my base drum and my sis jumped out of no where I sliped down my basement stairs and then broke my wrist I hope to be back to druming soon and never let ur family jump startle or scare you. 🤕

  • @INTOTHEFOLD
    @INTOTHEFOLD 4 года назад

    This was excellent.

  • @Jester_jester415
    @Jester_jester415 4 года назад +1

    When you talk about fitting the sound there’s one Adam Gillespie crying somewhere😆

  • @mghc7
    @mghc7 4 года назад

    I used to light my cymbals on fire for a song,that is a bad mistake when you almost burn down your favorite venue..oh yeah always practice by yourself and rehearse with the band.I also tell all my students to never play a pattern that your not used to playing in front of a huge crowd,a small bar venue with a lot of drunks,go for it,the more drunk they are the better you sound anyway.hahaha..my biggest mistake ever on stage was having an epileptic seizure on stage,that gives new light to playing a fast punk rock cash beat..keep crushing it

  • @technoalah
    @technoalah 4 года назад +1

    Man that’s good drumming!🖖🏻

  • @lamkasoundreinforcements2853
    @lamkasoundreinforcements2853 4 года назад

    Can you please please make a video on how you mixed and eq your drums sound please...🙊🙊🙊

  • @rip_josiah44
    @rip_josiah44 Месяц назад

    i like how in the first beat you couldnt even hear the song because of the drums

  • @carlonadalini965
    @carlonadalini965 4 года назад

    was the melody from paranoid?

  • @HackSawSees
    @HackSawSees 4 года назад +1

    This is one of the best tips videos I have seen, drumming or other. Well done.

  • @RorRiiZzLE
    @RorRiiZzLE 4 года назад

    #7 - Imagine Dragons really brings the drums to life in concert.
    To me, they’re a band to watch to learn some good stagecraft from the lighting and fog to the band members pretty much all very well in sync and then just letting the music take control of the show and everything else is just icing and maybe a few sprinkles.

  • @MultiAnimeGeek
    @MultiAnimeGeek 4 года назад

    Mistake number 7 is really a super weak spot for me because i hade adhd, i can't take my focus from the playing and the click in my ears or i will mess up right away, it really sucks :( And also number 8... God damn i take it hard if i mess up!

  • @MHxD
    @MHxD 4 года назад

    1. Playing ahead or behind the beat
    2.. Playing at different bpm to your count in.
    3.Playing fills at different bpm
    4. Slowing down
    5. Speeding up
    6. Delaying stage changeover by littering cases all over the stage
    7. Getting drunk in the interval
    8. Hitting cymbals in the wrong place
    9. Not wearing hearing protection then complaining about ears hurting
    10. Ending the song after 16 bars because that's what you counted rather than going with the improv the soloist was doing

  • @JMRSplatt
    @JMRSplatt 4 года назад

    I think about Chad Sexton and his stage presence.. basically none.. but then try to play some 311 tunes and realize how hard his parts are to keep in time constantly.. Nice work out there Chad.. and thanks for the video dude!!!

  • @lakshmig8854
    @lakshmig8854 4 года назад +2

    What is the thing at 4:22

  • @RorRiiZzLE
    @RorRiiZzLE 4 года назад +1

    So where would Neil Pearl and Rush fit into this?
    Or other bands that seem to almost feature the drummer?
    Also when focusing not just on dynamics as a whole, but room dynamics, does it matter if you’re practicing or jamming out to a live version of some favorite songs or pretend like you’re on stage, therefore the dynamics potentially sounding wrong for the certain room, but maybe not for what you’re practicing. Is that okay or should I try to stick to the dynamics that fit the room, mainly because I don’t currently have aspirations to be in a big band, so I don’t go out gigging n stuff, so I mostly learn and jam in a semi-sound treated room in our house.
    Btw, Dennis Chambers could nail that one handed, double bass fill whilst eating an ice cream cone 🍦
    ruclips.net/video/NKv5-rOIY_0/видео.html

  • @George-cb8hj
    @George-cb8hj 4 года назад

    Awesome video👍👍👍👍

  • @thisisjojo281
    @thisisjojo281 4 года назад +1

    Such a true video

  • @colesisler582
    @colesisler582 4 года назад

    This is more of a character thing but ego is a killer (not referring to Gabe lol). Just another tip. Bag the ego if you want to play in a band and do well. Ego in musicians is something that frustrates me on an insane level

  • @joetroutt7425
    @joetroutt7425 4 года назад

    I've been in bands where the guitarist/singer wants to control the feel of the set list and totally abandoning it if he feels the crowd want more rocking and the next song is a slow song so that throws me off bc they start the song and not me and I have to try really hard (due to lack of monitor or shitty sound guy) to hear the guitar so I can come in on time. Oh God the house cards when happens.

  • @lindameyer9909
    @lindameyer9909 4 года назад +1

    I'm confused af now, both my drum teacher and my previous drum teacher told me never to stop and now I'm being told to stop

    • @woutertrieling4182
      @woutertrieling4182 4 года назад +1

      You should never stop when performing or rehearsing with others, when training on your own it's a different story, sometimes it's good to stop to get out the wrinkles

    • @mattbdrums_3171
      @mattbdrums_3171 4 года назад

      Listen to your teacher, not a guy on RUclips. While he may give good advice, listen to YOUR instructor. He will give the best advice for YOU. RUclips is nothing compared to a teacher in person

    • @NewEnglandPatriotsfan
      @NewEnglandPatriotsfan 4 года назад

      My drum teacher was okay but kind of a hot head lol. And annoyed real easy when you wouldn't understand something quick

  • @MateuszKoscielny
    @MateuszKoscielny 4 года назад

    Very important thing even before joining a band, is to listen to their songs/ideas and then decide if we feel this well. If you listen to a song, and as a drummer you immediately start having ideas of how your drum part will look like, it's a good sign. You have to feel the band and their music before you join it ;) after that, you can watch this amazing video to avoid mistakes in a band :)

  • @westonjones4886
    @westonjones4886 4 года назад +1

    YOU'RE ALIVE!!!!!!!

  • @SanitysVoid
    @SanitysVoid 4 года назад

    Is there a bass version of this video?

  • @TheDrumMinors
    @TheDrumMinors 4 года назад

    Good stuff! 👍👍

  • @SamDrumz
    @SamDrumz 4 года назад

    I think drummers often think they need to overcompensate for being in the back of the band in order to get noticed. Best thing to do is just add a drum solo into your gig so you can showcase some of your skills without ruining a song!

  • @andrewburnworth8944
    @andrewburnworth8944 4 года назад +1

    This video is pretty inspiring ngl

  • @acuralee
    @acuralee 3 года назад

    between your amazing playing and the awesome tuning of the kit even playing sloppy sounds good lol

  • @thesilencefree2023
    @thesilencefree2023 4 года назад

    u have a great band👍

  • @ELIDOTORG
    @ELIDOTORG 4 года назад

    Fix the audio for the talk mic

  • @OutLaw1993GT
    @OutLaw1993GT 4 года назад

    Love all your vids man and you are a remarkable drummer and you seem like a cool cat, do you offer lessons on limb independence and syncopation? I’m a beginning drummer, I used to play when I was a teenager, and I bought an electronic drum kit 2 months ago and I feel like I need structured practice. If you don’t offer any online lessons can you point me in the right direction Id appreciate your input. Keep making great vids!!!!

    • @DrumBeatsOnline
      @DrumBeatsOnline  4 года назад

      Hey Brian! I offer a bunch of lessons like that actually on DBO Academy! If you join the waitlist you'll get a free beginner syncopation/independence lesson right away! You can check that out here: bit.ly/DBOAcademy

  • @cosmicmask2991
    @cosmicmask2991 4 года назад

    Great video as always.

  • @HamDrumss
    @HamDrumss 4 года назад

    I see that Ipad behind you, I assume your running the click along with tracks off of that.. what program are you running ? I could really use it

  • @870expressmag
    @870expressmag 4 года назад +1

    Eddie Van Halens father told him "If you make a mistake, do it twice. This way they will think you meant to do it"

  • @713tink
    @713tink 3 года назад

    Use practice time to implement new shit. Play what you know live. Had a song we played that pretty technical and I played around with fills(it had a lot of drum breaks) but when we played shows I just went to tried and true, everyone on que licks. It is fun to just be an ass and yell at your band mates, “you come in after the herta!” After you just did just an extra bar.

  • @sasamarjanovic2242
    @sasamarjanovic2242 4 года назад

    Are you back to Ayotte...?

  • @squirrel8016
    @squirrel8016 4 года назад +1

    This video helps me alot thanks gabe rlly needed This 👌😁🥁

  • @nielsvanoosten
    @nielsvanoosten 4 года назад

    oof. number 8 is much too real. It's really tough to just shake it off.

  • @EpicStuffMan1000
    @EpicStuffMan1000 4 года назад +3

    I hope this is ok, but sticking straight on the metronome. If you have time and *can* keep it right on the metronome, experiment with rushing or dragging the bass and the snare. Drag bass for rock groove, drag snare for funk. Rush everything for creepy sounding stuff.

  • @gabrielmorales9275
    @gabrielmorales9275 4 года назад

    Just vibe 😎

  • @nathanl157
    @nathanl157 4 года назад

    I totally agree with the statement “nobody will criticize you for playing clean, but they will if you start messing things up” it only took 1 mess up for me to learn that one, haven’t been back there thank the Lord. Good Video!

  • @ngetkinindrummer859
    @ngetkinindrummer859 4 года назад

    I’m Cambodia fan

  • @joelheshan
    @joelheshan 4 года назад

    Yaaaaa hrob that's correct 💯💯💙💙💙

  • @richeichelberg2179
    @richeichelberg2179 4 года назад

    Great vid Gabe! I need to work on my stage presence more. I tend to get caught up in concentrating on the song we're playing and sometimes need to remind myself to relax and enjoy the moment and convey that to the crowd watching us.

  • @stevevorass
    @stevevorass 3 года назад

    This makes me miss playing with bands.

  • @phnxcmx
    @phnxcmx 4 года назад

    Good video but I could barely hear the song at all under the drums

  • @s3b1bast1an3
    @s3b1bast1an3 4 года назад +1

    Soooooooo, that's what SIMPLE means....

  • @sseltrek1a2b
    @sseltrek1a2b 4 года назад

    great tips from a solid player...there are very few musicians i respect more than solid drummers- they're the glue that makes everything else possible...