I think Prydwen has announced that for both R1999 and Ash Echoes they are trying to figure out how to make it more of a teambuilding tier list than an individual tier list, but that it is a big change with a lot of uncertainty so other stuff is getting de-prioritized while they work on it.
As a Windsong main, building cards doesn't feel boring to me and I'm happy to see she is still number one. But if I were to auto I would prefer Lucy or Anjo Nala.
There are so many DPSs to choose from, all with different playstyles and teams. Jiu, Lucy, Anjo, Marcus, Lilya, Spath and Barcarola are all viable and will be better or worse depending on what units you have. Windsong might be the best right now but it won't last forever because of team synergies. I doubt FUA is going to get another boost like Flutterpage anytime soon, so some other team will rise to the top in 2.6/2.7.
I love Windsong - one of my favorite characters, but I only bust her out on very specific challenges. Marcus, Lucy, and Anjo are just so consistent. I do think Windsong's card stacking is exaggerated too. You can throw her ult on turn 3 or 4 and still wipe the map sometimes.
Re1999 Prydwen has like two volunteers who only do re1999. Currently the Prydwen teams for re1999 and ash echoes are trying to figure out how to design a new tier list that captures this type of game better. (Team comp focused, since individual char strengths are much less prioritized)
37 being so low is a little cringe now. I understood it before but now we have so many characters that want P1 and even P2. 37 needing P2 isn't really an outlier anymore.
Doesnt matter she still deals low dmg and provide useless buff even at p2. What she need is a good euphoria, she already has so many teams/slave its just many of them doesnt really need her
I think she is fine. Her whole deal is to do free follow ups and do genesis damage that crits. She is fine imo but that tier list is showing all of them at P0. If she gets an euphoria it might be very mild @yohannes4630
The tier list has always been weirdly biased for Windsong, the fact that they gave her a 9 for roguelike because they dont want to give her straight 10s to hide their bias, yet Windsongs ult is quite literally the most broken thing in roguelike mode for anyone whose done an infinite ult.
@@yohannes4630yup I agree, she's might be the only true "futureproof" character because of her mechanics, with that being said she's a undoubtedly SSS tier outside uttu
Windsong is undeniable the best DPS in the game. Players have this misconception that you ALWAYS need to use the stacking strat for some reason 😅 Even in UTTU you can clear in 2 turns tops. Not that UTTU matters in any way...
Ducan do have synergy with Lopera. and there Lilya euphoria that gain bullet. So I am guessing around 2.6 - 2.7 there would be a bullet support or dps.
2.6 has to be a petrify DPS right? They're putting so many characters into that team now but it doesn't have its core unit yet, someone who actually makes use of the petrify/rigidity, like Satsuki.
Imho, rank 1 should be Sustainers (Kakania, Fatutu, Babel, etc) because without them, you can't survive the hardest content in the game (like 99 Roguelike). The rest makes sense You also missed Willow's rating @12:06 with Tuesday. It was 8/8/10/9/9 Overall 8.8 (It was stated at the bottom of her kit description)
I disagree. Due to the nature of this game, you can kill the enemy before they kill your team in the vast majority of the content. If you have the strongest damage dealers, you need no NewBabel lol I understand where youn are coming from. Absolutely.
Hello Jakazin ! First thanks for your content, it really help ! Now, you talk a lot about the FUA meta and the FUA team, but never really explain what it will be. From what I can tell, obviously it's made of : Fatutu and Flutterpage as the main supports, Anjo Nala seems to be the best character for this archetype (doing almost all her damages from FUA), and then who is the best for the fourth slot (and Anjo bound) ? From what I can tell : - Mercuria could be a strong buffer but she doesn't really use Fatutu and Flutterpage's buffs so ... - Lilya Euphoria look like an insane bound for Anjo, she can generate an absurd amount of Moxies from her Euphoria, while she has FUA on basically every incantation so it look really nice. - 37 look like a weaker version of Lilya (or Anjo Nala I guess, since Lilya/37/Flutterpage/Fatutu should work well aswell I guess ?), and maybe a good substitute for Lilya when you need more mental damages. - Jiu look strong aswell, she as FUA on every actions (even two on her second incantation), so she really use the buffs. She is more single target oriented, but I'm not sure if there is enough buffs for the Liquor stacks. - Lucy has a FUA, but most of her damage should come from regular incantations so, while strong, she doesn't look like she use the buffs very well. There is maybe someone I don't see, but for me it look like Lilya > 37 > Jiu > Mercuria > Lucy. But maybe there is something I don't see, could use some explaination of the "Follow-Up Meta" in CN ! Thanks !
Howdy, Gordan from Prydwen here. The reason why we haven't updated the Tier List is because I've promised, a long while ago, that I'd allow the Phase 1 character to settle until the Raid release. In addition, due to some personal matters, I haven't gotten to it.
oh i just saw it lmao. I didnt look into kit explanation because it didnt make any sense for it to have a random mention at the end. Add it as a secondary column like they did for anan lee and all the euphoria characters lol
I think liang yue is a hyper carry, her buff actually allow her to do more fua so it aint exactly a buff, if its use in the green zone it double the FUA since it doubles the buff. But i havent play her so i might be wrong. Anyway, like anjo, they call her sub carry maybe cause she have a channeling incantation that doesnt do dmg? But in fact she is a hyper carry.
Anjo it's more because she literally follows another character's attack, her damage comes because of the connection with another character, she is a dps that was made as a sub-dps, the damage is high and constant, but if it was just constant and ok damage it would be much more sub-dps
@@AylaKilse yea hence she just needs a medium to channel her Atk (it can be another DPS/support/healer), fact is that she does a lot of dmg, doesn't make her a sub DPS.
@@Destr0th She is a much improved 37, a 37 that can deal damage, or a Flutterpage that can deal damage, so even though she is seen as a sub-dps it makes more sense to use her as a main dps.
I really hope that Regulus gets a Euphoria update, cause she’s one of my favourite characters to play :)) Other than that, I feel like the tier list is accurate ;) I’m going to secure Flutterpage and Fatutu ( 57 pulls atm, with enough time to save up for both) and I’ll try to get Liang Yue if I can afford it
Windsong actually doesn't have the exact same final score as Nala, according to that tirelist's calculation rules and her subscores it is a tiny bit higher, the difference just probably haven't survived the rounding to tenths (I won't bother with actually calculating it and it's not like the hundredths of subjective assessments is a thing that matters anyway)
Naruto. Have been watching many chinese review and analysis vids on Bili and they place alot of emphasis on highest scoring teams, hence they widely consider Windsong the best DPS as she is the character that achieves highest score most often. Anjo on the other hand does not top the charts. However I'm anti-Windsong as well :D
Windsong being better than Anjo is a laughable take considering how much more versatile the latter is compared to the former. WS does one particular thing at 11/10, but Anjo does that particular thing along with a lot of other things as well at 10/10 or 9/10 at worst. It takes a lot effort to be worse than prydwen tierlists usually, but kudos to the community tierlist for achieveing that (who on earth is the "Community" in question voting on these btw one would like to know, considering I never see these guys debating new and old units placements on either reddit or discord after a patch).
Honestly prydwen r1999 is very good considering that there are very few people doing everything there, we can't always speak so badly of prydwen just because we don't like hsr's tier lists for example, They make mistakes, but they always update themselves, and if you look at their current tier list it is quite correct.
Pretty clear that Windsong is #1 because of reasons that have nothing to do with gameplay. Either someone has an unhealthy obsession with her or it's her nationality. Top 10? Yes. Number 1 spot? No way.
You didnt bully anything. for the 100th time, Luxury pull doesnt mean skip. I couldnt get her on release in cn cuz i'm f2p, however for global i could.
@@Jakazinlmao, we knew you would get her. I feel like you have most of the characters on global. But you gotta admit, every character feels like a luxury pull these days.
Honestly Kakania is really incredible, but she is more like a buffer that is not very good, she can handle a lot of damage, but it is necessary to have someone who can heal her too and who can heal the team, like Fu Xuan, she can't handle long battles alone, and so Kakania does the same, I still think that Vila or Fatutu serve a better purpose, making it possible to put another character more suitable for the team, like a buffer or a dps/sub-dps
Lucy is low coz the devs indirectly nerfed her....all the minions/mobs bosses have don't go away when they die now,which stops Lucy from doing her lazers which is literally what makes her strong
Quick question, what portrait is best to stop for Flutterpage? Because I really want to build the meta team, but I also want to get LiangYue P5, so I’m debating if I should even bother P5 flutterpage or Fatutu
Lopera and Fatutu are the best for a beginner, if you don't have Tuesday, don't get Willow, Flutterpage can be good if you have extra attack characters, Barcarola is not worth it, and Liang Yue is also not good, but she is limited and may prove to be good in the future, it is your choice, and lastly Noire, we have no idea about her, let's wait and see
Windsong is indeed good, but she doesn't deserve number 1....they should also take clear time into account where some stages have limited rounds to get full rewards (raids also do,but it has way more rounds)
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I think Prydwen has announced that for both R1999 and Ash Echoes they are trying to figure out how to make it more of a teambuilding tier list than an individual tier list, but that it is a big change with a lot of uncertainty so other stuff is getting de-prioritized while they work on it.
As a Windsong main, building cards doesn't feel boring to me and I'm happy to see she is still number one. But if I were to auto I would prefer Lucy or Anjo Nala.
Yesss, the ai for windsong is hella dumb. I think they should edit that or something
Windsong playing auto it's not worth it?
There are so many DPSs to choose from, all with different playstyles and teams. Jiu, Lucy, Anjo, Marcus, Lilya, Spath and Barcarola are all viable and will be better or worse depending on what units you have. Windsong might be the best right now but it won't last forever because of team synergies. I doubt FUA is going to get another boost like Flutterpage anytime soon, so some other team will rise to the top in 2.6/2.7.
@@Lemark40 The auto doesn't play to build cards and when the ultimate is ready, it uses the ult first and then the buff/debuff cards
I love Windsong - one of my favorite characters, but I only bust her out on very specific challenges. Marcus, Lucy, and Anjo are just so consistent.
I do think Windsong's card stacking is exaggerated too. You can throw her ult on turn 3 or 4 and still wipe the map sometimes.
“barcarola, nobody cares” this shit took me out 😭😭😭 9:23
@@zyoio it's tru tho
At least she can sing ...
Prydwen doesn't really do much for their r1999 tier list probably focused more on other popular games
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yea, i noticed that they took a long time updating new unit information and the team building on each character is not complete yet :/
Re1999 Prydwen has like two volunteers who only do re1999.
Currently the Prydwen teams for re1999 and ash echoes are trying to figure out how to design a new tier list that captures this type of game better. (Team comp focused, since individual char strengths are much less prioritized)
37 being so low is a little cringe now. I understood it before but now we have so many characters that want P1 and even P2. 37 needing P2 isn't really an outlier anymore.
37 is the most popular character in this game, there's a pretty decent chance she gets a strong euphoria
Imo, 37 doesn't need her P3 anymore. In FUP teams she earns so much inspiration stacks on her own at P0
Doesnt matter she still deals low dmg and provide useless buff even at p2. What she need is a good euphoria, she already has so many teams/slave its just many of them doesnt really need her
I think she is fine. Her whole deal is to do free follow ups and do genesis damage that crits. She is fine imo but that tier list is showing all of them at P0. If she gets an euphoria it might be very mild @yohannes4630
The tier list has always been weirdly biased for Windsong, the fact that they gave her a 9 for roguelike because they dont want to give her straight 10s to hide their bias, yet Windsongs ult is quite literally the most broken thing in roguelike mode for anyone whose done an infinite ult.
Yea she should be 9 on uttu where you want to clear round in 1-2 turn. Ws is quite hard to manage that she need to ult 1st and have many card ready
@@yohannes4630yup I agree, she's might be the only true "futureproof" character because of her mechanics, with that being said she's a undoubtedly SSS tier outside uttu
Windsong is undeniable the best DPS in the game. Players have this misconception that you ALWAYS need to use the stacking strat for some reason 😅 Even in UTTU you can clear in 2 turns tops. Not that UTTU matters in any way...
Ducan do have synergy with Lopera. and there Lilya euphoria that gain bullet. So I am guessing around 2.6 - 2.7 there would be a bullet support or dps.
but their afflatus kinda everywhere kekw
@@elinamanansi5508 right but late game afflatus dont realy matter ? at least for now.
Always appreciate these videos😂, they help me avoid FOMO when planning my pull plans.
2.6 has to be a petrify DPS right? They're putting so many characters into that team now but it doesn't have its core unit yet, someone who actually makes use of the petrify/rigidity, like Satsuki.
bro you have no idea how much I want a petrify dps for my druvis and jessica
@@trickster4872 Same Jessica is such a great Unit
We don't even have a Freeze unit other than Ms. Moissan 😭🙏
Can't call her fatutu anymore, she's Naruto now🤣
Imho, rank 1 should be Sustainers (Kakania, Fatutu, Babel, etc) because without them, you can't survive the hardest content in the game (like 99 Roguelike). The rest makes sense
You also missed Willow's rating @12:06 with Tuesday. It was 8/8/10/9/9 Overall 8.8 (It was stated at the bottom of her kit description)
I disagree. Due to the nature of this game, you can kill the enemy before they kill your team in the vast majority of the content. If you have the strongest damage dealers, you need no NewBabel lol
I understand where youn are coming from. Absolutely.
Hello Jakazin ! First thanks for your content, it really help !
Now, you talk a lot about the FUA meta and the FUA team, but never really explain what it will be. From what I can tell, obviously it's made of : Fatutu and Flutterpage as the main supports, Anjo Nala seems to be the best character for this archetype (doing almost all her damages from FUA), and then who is the best for the fourth slot (and Anjo bound) ? From what I can tell :
- Mercuria could be a strong buffer but she doesn't really use Fatutu and Flutterpage's buffs so ...
- Lilya Euphoria look like an insane bound for Anjo, she can generate an absurd amount of Moxies from her Euphoria, while she has FUA on basically every incantation so it look really nice.
- 37 look like a weaker version of Lilya (or Anjo Nala I guess, since Lilya/37/Flutterpage/Fatutu should work well aswell I guess ?), and maybe a good substitute for Lilya when you need more mental damages.
- Jiu look strong aswell, she as FUA on every actions (even two on her second incantation), so she really use the buffs. She is more single target oriented, but I'm not sure if there is enough buffs for the Liquor stacks.
- Lucy has a FUA, but most of her damage should come from regular incantations so, while strong, she doesn't look like she use the buffs very well.
There is maybe someone I don't see, but for me it look like Lilya > 37 > Jiu > Mercuria > Lucy. But maybe there is something I don't see, could use some explaination of the "Follow-Up Meta" in CN !
Thanks !
I'm awaiting for Lopera banner on next Thursday soon
You and me both
Hoping we both get her
Totally agree with your take on Windsong Vs Anjo Nala, no way anjo is below Windsong
Howdy, Gordan from Prydwen here. The reason why we haven't updated the Tier List is because I've promised, a long while ago, that I'd allow the Phase 1 character to settle until the Raid release. In addition, due to some personal matters, I haven't gotten to it.
It literally has a Tuesday rating under
who? where
@@Jakazin Last line of WIllow's description (text box) is "needs Tuesday to function. Is 8.8 with her." Paraphrased.
@@Jakazin Willow's rating
@@Jakazin Willow's Rating is 8.8 with Tuesday
oh i just saw it lmao. I didnt look into kit explanation because it didnt make any sense for it to have a random mention at the end. Add it as a secondary column like they did for anan lee and all the euphoria characters lol
I think liang yue is a hyper carry, her buff actually allow her to do more fua so it aint exactly a buff, if its use in the green zone it double the FUA since it doubles the buff. But i havent play her so i might be wrong.
Anyway, like anjo, they call her sub carry maybe cause she have a channeling incantation that doesnt do dmg? But in fact she is a hyper carry.
Anjo it's more because she literally follows another character's attack, her damage comes because of the connection with another character, she is a dps that was made as a sub-dps, the damage is high and constant, but if it was just constant and ok damage it would be much more sub-dps
@@AylaKilse yea hence she just needs a medium to channel her Atk (it can be another DPS/support/healer), fact is that she does a lot of dmg, doesn't make her a sub DPS.
@@Destr0th She is a much improved 37, a 37 that can deal damage, or a Flutterpage that can deal damage, so even though she is seen as a sub-dps it makes more sense to use her as a main dps.
I really hope that Regulus gets a Euphoria update, cause she’s one of my favourite characters to play :)) Other than that, I feel like the tier list is accurate ;) I’m going to secure Flutterpage and Fatutu ( 57 pulls atm, with enough time to save up for both) and I’ll try to get Liang Yue if I can afford it
Hope Noir does well with poison team. Liked this character instantly as someone who grew up watching hong kong movies :)
I just came back 3 days ago. Tried to reroll to start fresh. Lucked upon a P1 Anjo Nala on decatone, so I went all in for P5. No regrets.
Lopera is the "Tuesday" of Bullet team, I bet 2.6 or 2.7 will have a DPS with bullet synenergy
ah, yes, fatutu, a ninja from konoha.
my call on the next meta is either they gonna work on bullet or unit that does something like immobilize enemy for couple of turn like petrify
I don't care for characters in next few patches anyway, so i will be getting Lopera and Cacania.
Man why is Willow's best cube a 5* that we can't get anymore? Is that a deal breaker for pulling her without it?
Nah, you can still utilize her signature psycube.
Windsong actually doesn't have the exact same final score as Nala, according to that tirelist's calculation rules and her subscores it is a tiny bit higher, the difference just probably haven't survived the rounding to tenths (I won't bother with actually calculating it and it's not like the hundredths of subjective assessments is a thing that matters anyway)
wtf invalid 37 slander on the list
Naruto. Have been watching many chinese review and analysis vids on Bili and they place alot of emphasis on highest scoring teams, hence they widely consider Windsong the best DPS as she is the character that achieves highest score most often. Anjo on the other hand does not top the charts. However I'm anti-Windsong as well :D
As a blonney main clearing content I cackled HAHAHAHSGHSGXHSH
hey jaka, is yesterday stream live? i need to see your yakuza gameplay
Vod is now up you can go check it on twitch. it'll be uploaded on the vod channel aswell with time
@Jakazin thanks
Windsong being better than Anjo is a laughable take considering how much more versatile the latter is compared to the former. WS does one particular thing at 11/10, but Anjo does that particular thing along with a lot of other things as well at 10/10 or 9/10 at worst. It takes a lot effort to be worse than prydwen tierlists usually, but kudos to the community tierlist for achieveing that (who on earth is the "Community" in question voting on these btw one would like to know, considering I never see these guys debating new and old units placements on either reddit or discord after a patch).
it's mainly reddit+r99 discord, which is already telling
Honestly prydwen r1999 is very good considering that there are very few people doing everything there, we can't always speak so badly of prydwen just because we don't like hsr's tier lists for example, They make mistakes, but they always update themselves, and if you look at their current tier list it is quite correct.
me and my fully built voyager waiting for barcaroloa while everyone is clowning on her😭
Prydwen also haven't updated their R1999 material farm list
Prydwen needs more people helping with this stuff, there are only two people who run that entire reverse 1999 site
please review the teambuilding too
Naruto is crazy - I agree with that 100%
Pretty clear that Windsong is #1 because of reasons that have nothing to do with gameplay. Either someone has an unhealthy obsession with her or it's her nationality.
Top 10? Yes. Number 1 spot? No way.
This is why we bullied you into pulling Kakania 😂
You didnt bully anything. for the 100th time, Luxury pull doesnt mean skip. I couldnt get her on release in cn cuz i'm f2p, however for global i could.
@@Jakazinlmao, we knew you would get her. I feel like you have most of the characters on global. But you gotta admit, every character feels like a luxury pull these days.
@ true
Honestly Kakania is really incredible, but she is more like a buffer that is not very good, she can handle a lot of damage, but it is necessary to have someone who can heal her too and who can heal the team, like Fu Xuan, she can't handle long battles alone, and so Kakania does the same, I still think that Vila or Fatutu serve a better purpose, making it possible to put another character more suitable for the team, like a buffer or a dps/sub-dps
Lucy is low coz the devs indirectly nerfed her....all the minions/mobs bosses have don't go away when they die now,which stops Lucy from doing her lazers which is literally what makes her strong
Yes cant wait to pull naruto in 2.4❤🗿
15:52
Nope you're not wrong
Allin into bullet meta, got it
Quick question, what portrait is best to stop for Flutterpage? Because I really want to build the meta team, but I also want to get LiangYue P5, so I’m debating if I should even bother P5 flutterpage or Fatutu
p1 is fine tbh, but whenever i do the guide before her release, you'll see more in detail for the rest
Thank u!
MAKE LUCY HAVERS GREAT AGAIN!
I'm f2p which characters should i get next
It depends what you have/want, for the follow-up team Flutterpage+Fatutu or Willow the DPS for Poison. Lopera if you don't have a strong support
Lopera and Fatutu are the best for a beginner, if you don't have Tuesday, don't get Willow, Flutterpage can be good if you have extra attack characters, Barcarola is not worth it, and Liang Yue is also not good, but she is limited and may prove to be good in the future, it is your choice, and lastly Noire, we have no idea about her, let's wait and see
2:37 Gogogogo moment?
#justiceforJessica
Huh, so far so good, agrees with Anjo Nala, Windsong, Lucy, Mercuria, ...
"Barcarola nobody cares"
Okay, nevermind, you've got yourself a hater
Yeah well, tell it to bluepoch to fix impromptu so i'll care again (i have barcarola, the mechanic just isnt viable yet)
where blon
C tier w Mr duncan
Windsong is indeed good, but she doesn't deserve number 1....they should also take clear time into account where some stages have limited rounds to get full rewards (raids also do,but it has way more rounds)