UPDATE : Since I don't speak in this video, I couldn't provide any explanations as to why I like a theme over another. For future videos, I'll probably put a bottom text or something to give a reason to the themes placements. But it should be fairly obvious that this ranking is based on my opinion and I think I kinda have weird takes when it comes to Pokémon music. Also, I got a couple of questions about either missing themes or characters so let's get into that. Missing Characters : Lucas, Dawn, Ethan, Lyra, Lillie, Penny, Arven, Carmine, Akari and Rei. For me, all of these characters are not rivals. Lucas, Dawn, Ethan, Lyra, Lillie, Akari and Rei don't even have a designated battle theme. Penny is the leader of the villainous Team Star. Arven seeks your help and don't have any kind of rivalry towards you. Carmine I uh… didn't played the Scarlet and Violet DLC so I probably look like a buffoon right now. However! I do regret not putting their themes in here because aside from the "Rivals" category I don't know which category their themes would fit in the best. Penny's theme will be ranked in a future evil teams themes ranking video, though. Missing Themes : Hau (Alola Champion), Hop (Final Battle), Marnie (Final Battle), Kieran (Blueberry Academy Champion). In retrospect, I don't think it was clever of me to purposefully leave out those themes. The reason why I didn't include them is because these themes are for a Pokémon League setting. Champion Hau, Champion Kieran, NOT an Elite Four member Hop (but serves as one) and same for Marnie. That's why I didn't include Blue's Champion theme, Trace's Champion theme and N's Champion theme. But why would I include Nemona's final battle theme? After all, Nemona is a Champion. While she's definitely a Champion (one of my personal favorites, in fact) she's not THE Champion you have to defeat after you've beaten the Elite Four members to obtain yourself the title of a Champion ranked trainer. Again, it was already too late when I realized that it shouldn't be the setting that defines a "Rival Battle Theme" but rather the trainer you confront. Some Themes Placements : ORAS Wally at 14th place and the Kieran disrespect. ORAS Wally's theme is a banger, no doubts. But its biggest flaw for me is its short length and because of that it's easier, for me, to get tired of it. Now onto my boy, Kieran. It's already been a month since this video came out and, at the time, I haven't played the DLC of Pokémon Scarlet and Violet. I still haven't to this day BUT after watching some let's plays of the DLC, Kieran quickly became one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise! I misjudged his battle themes, at first, but that was because it was my first time listening to it and I was not used to it yet. After listening to it a lot more, if I were to rank Kieran's Kitakami battle theme and its final version, they would be between 11th and 10th place.
Ok. Nice video and tysm for doing it cause rivals are with us all the games but we don't really pay attention to their themes and how much each of them suits them BUUUUT Wally from ORAS at 14th is a crime for me... this theme still bring tears too me :(
That might be the nostalgia talking, but I prefer Silver and Brendan/May's old theme. Silver had an air of arrogance and B/M had that "playful but serious" tone. You made me realize how "hurrying" N's theme is though, I've never noticed it
@@pokemouse44066 Maybe you'll be more interested in it by listening to the common points between Kieran's 3 themes, since they're all distantly related I really like his three themes, they're my favorite pokemon ost lol
UPDATE :
Since I don't speak in this video, I couldn't provide any explanations as to why I like a theme over another. For future videos, I'll probably put a bottom text or something to give a reason to the themes placements. But it should be fairly obvious that this ranking is based on my opinion and I think I kinda have weird takes when it comes to Pokémon music.
Also, I got a couple of questions about either missing themes or characters so let's get into that.
Missing Characters :
Lucas, Dawn, Ethan, Lyra, Lillie, Penny, Arven, Carmine, Akari and Rei.
For me, all of these characters are not rivals. Lucas, Dawn, Ethan, Lyra, Lillie, Akari and Rei don't even have a designated battle theme. Penny is the leader of the villainous Team Star. Arven seeks your help and don't have any kind of rivalry towards you. Carmine I uh… didn't played the Scarlet and Violet DLC so I probably look like a buffoon right now.
However! I do regret not putting their themes in here because aside from the "Rivals" category I don't know which category their themes would fit in the best. Penny's theme will be ranked in a future evil teams themes ranking video, though.
Missing Themes :
Hau (Alola Champion), Hop (Final Battle), Marnie (Final Battle), Kieran (Blueberry Academy Champion).
In retrospect, I don't think it was clever of me to purposefully leave out those themes. The reason why I didn't include them is because these themes are for a Pokémon League setting. Champion Hau, Champion Kieran, NOT an Elite Four member Hop (but serves as one) and same for Marnie. That's why I didn't include Blue's Champion theme, Trace's Champion theme and N's Champion theme. But why would I include Nemona's final battle theme? After all, Nemona is a Champion. While she's definitely a Champion (one of my personal favorites, in fact) she's not THE Champion you have to defeat after you've beaten the Elite Four members to obtain yourself the title of a Champion ranked trainer. Again, it was already too late when I realized that it shouldn't be the setting that defines a "Rival Battle Theme" but rather the trainer you confront.
Some Themes Placements :
ORAS Wally at 14th place and the Kieran disrespect.
ORAS Wally's theme is a banger, no doubts. But its biggest flaw for me is its short length and because of that it's easier, for me, to get tired of it. Now onto my boy, Kieran. It's already been a month since this video came out and, at the time, I haven't played the DLC of Pokémon Scarlet and Violet. I still haven't to this day BUT after watching some let's plays of the DLC, Kieran quickly became one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise! I misjudged his battle themes, at first, but that was because it was my first time listening to it and I was not used to it yet. After listening to it a lot more, if I were to rank Kieran's Kitakami battle theme and its final version, they would be between 11th and 10th place.
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Ok. Nice video and tysm for doing it cause rivals are with us all the games but we don't really pay attention to their themes and how much each of them suits them BUUUUT Wally from ORAS at 14th is a crime for me... this theme still bring tears too me :(
The ORAS Wally theme is very good but its biggest flaw, for me, is its short duration.
@@pokemouse44066 ahhh yes okay I understand now
Merci pour ta vidéo, elle est tres bie faite c'etuat vraiment agreable a regarde et à ecouter !
Merci à toi pour ce gentil commentaire.
Where's Penny and Arven ?? There theme are so cool too :c
Their themes are cool but I don't really consider them as "rivals".
@@pokemouse44066 Well... And Carmine ?
That might be the nostalgia talking, but I prefer Silver and Brendan/May's old theme. Silver had an air of arrogance and B/M had that "playful but serious" tone. You made me realize how "hurrying" N's theme is though, I've never noticed it
Hop final battle music 😢😢😢
Kieran's themes so low??Is there a problem
I feel like Kieran's battle themes have a chance to rank higher in the future but for now I'm just not that into it.
@@pokemouse44066 Maybe you'll be more interested in it by listening to the common points between Kieran's 3 themes, since they're all distantly related I really like his three themes, they're my favorite pokemon ost lol
Nul
great top i personally think Kieran theme needs to be higher
I think Kieran's themes will grow on me over time.
Ghez
i still can't understand how wally remake ost is so low unless its purely your own taste
what else could it be ?
@@YatsuoKogame nostalgia bias
@@TunaSpecialist still his own taste tho ;)
@@YatsuoKogame as if i didn't mention it from start
@@TunaSpecialist that's what I answered you at first :P
Klara 25th ?????!!
Edit : KIERAN 24 ???????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kieran's song very low... let's say fine... but BLUE THEME ? 22? i'm out of here! Come on!
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