Raven heeled me at paid autograph in philly. New jack was nice. Raven was still doing character old style. Smart fellow. He made me love him even more!
@tonetrip_ heel move was he acted crazy n scary n i moved on to next. Dude was my fav. So funny after fact. Like that should b raven. Not real life guy. He was kafabe cuz hes old school as f
I love hearing about how Raven helped with the stories backstage and also that he was the last of the territory guys. And he was a producer/manager at wwf because Vince McMahon wanted him backstage for his creative ideas. It just blows mind how talent on and off the ring soctt levy was. Raven is also a Philly guy too.
Raven has been one of my favorites for a long time. My angsty teen self identified with him when I was a kid and as an adult I have massive respect for his character work. Plus, just listening to the dude talk, he's an absolute genius. I know that he's like a literal genius, but as a wrestling mind he's so fucking brilliant.
Great video. One thing that you got wrong is that Cornette didn't not get so much as he thought that it wouldn't work with the Memphis crowd and that they wouldn't get it. Remembering that video, I think that Cornette said that he thought that Scott/Raven was very talented and had a great mind. He just didn't expect that audience to take to it. Raven was my favorite wrestler for a long time. I hated watching him lose the US title to Goldberg back in WCW.
I'm kinda surprised we've never seen anything with Stevie and Raven off camera. Raven did a few things with Sandman and a thing with Dreamer, but I've never seen Stevie and Raven do anything together off camera.
Off camera? You mean like, you want to see them together in real life, and you're surprised you haven't? What do you want to see them do together off camera, get lunch together? It would either have to be a huge coincidence, or you'd have to stalk them. Please don't stalk these men. Just enjoy them on camera.
Doesnt Raven have a genius level IQ? If so, they definitely see the world in a completely different way. A way most of us would say is mad. I’ve always enjoyed his work.
I would love to see Raven Mark Mero and Steve Austin do a table for three on the WWE Network and have them all sit back and tell stories about their days and WCW together and also pay tribute to Brian Pillman
Raven should have been the Cerebral Assassin in WWF/E !!!! Imagine him doing the mind game stuff with Rock , Austin , Taker etc... instead of a 1 dimensional hardcore wrestler . Even if they didn't take it as far as my opening comment , there was still TONS more Raven could have done in that company in that vein instead of hitting and getting hit with trash cans .
How mental that you can take something as brutal and simple as a DDT, and make it completely your own. He crafted that body language that may as well be leading up to him taking your head off with a pruning saw. The chair spot was just magical too. If he had gone a bit more 'seething' and a bit less 'what about me', the sitting in the corner gimmick would have been unstoppable.
I would love to see Raven Mark Mero and Steve Austin do a table for three on the WWE Network and have them all sit back and tell stories about their days and WCW together and also pay tribute to Brian Pillman
Great production as always, but I wouldn’t suggest the caption as they’re very triggering to the eye sense to the screen with flashing imaging which might cause a discomfort or nonsensical image for some
Not sure if Stevie reads this, but I had a question about something that I discovered in looking back at Raven's promos from ECW and something Cornette pointed out in reviewing the McMahon documentary that I wondered if he had the answer to. Raven cut a promo on Sandman that referenced wishing that he had killed his dad, but that he died before he had the chance in 1999. Vince gave a Playboy interview in 2001 where he was quoted about his abusive stepfather as saying, ""It's unfortunate that he died before I could kill him." Was that something that Scott had heard from Vince that he decided to use or was it just a really weird coincidence (or, more oddly, did Vince steal the line from Raven for some reason)? If Scott used some of Vince for Raven, it could be one of the reasons why Vince didn't use Raven properly instead of Vince not "getting" Raven.
I was a WCW kid.. still am thru and thru (we didn't really get ECW or much WWF here in NZ in 96/97). I wish they hadn't made The Flock such a pack of idiots.. if they had any substance they could have been something to really contend with, rather than that Dungeon Of Doom jobber trough.
Who the hell can’t understand him? Those captions are SO distracting. And so completely unnecessary. If captions *have* to be used they need to be in ‘normal’ text (like this) and at the bottom of the screen- like regular captions. But they’re not necessary because James speaks English!!!!
Raven heeled me at paid autograph in philly. New jack was nice. Raven was still doing character old style. Smart fellow. He made me love him even more!
Are you saying you met Raven and he made you pay for an autograph?
@@tonetrip_ LOL
@@ianvollmermusic that would be a great heel move. Love Raven
@tonetrip_ heel move was he acted crazy n scary n i moved on to next. Dude was my fav. So funny after fact. Like that should b raven. Not real life guy. He was kafabe cuz hes old school as f
Never a Raven video without someone saying "mind for the business". A dance as old as time.
I love hearing about how Raven helped with the stories backstage and also that he was the last of the territory guys. And he was a producer/manager at wwf because Vince McMahon wanted him backstage for his creative ideas. It just blows mind how talent on and off the ring soctt levy was. Raven is also a Philly guy too.
Shane was such a fun teacher. I was in his American Studies class back in High School.
Raven has been one of my favorites for a long time. My angsty teen self identified with him when I was a kid and as an adult I have massive respect for his character work. Plus, just listening to the dude talk, he's an absolute genius. I know that he's like a literal genius, but as a wrestling mind he's so fucking brilliant.
He's a creative genius and you have to be a madman to be a creative genius.
I stumbled across most of the back catalogue of ECW on Peacock. Now I have about a decade of weekly shows to reminisce about.
Great video. One thing that you got wrong is that Cornette didn't not get so much as he thought that it wouldn't work with the Memphis crowd and that they wouldn't get it. Remembering that video, I think that Cornette said that he thought that Scott/Raven was very talented and had a great mind. He just didn't expect that audience to take to it. Raven was my favorite wrestler for a long time. I hated watching him lose the US title to Goldberg back in WCW.
Quote the raven, never more!
I get to meet him at the end of October!
I like the caption because I have trouble understanding James’s accent but I can understand Stevie’s Philly accent
I'm kinda surprised we've never seen anything with Stevie and Raven off camera. Raven did a few things with Sandman and a thing with Dreamer, but I've never seen Stevie and Raven do anything together off camera.
Off camera? You mean like, you want to see them together in real life, and you're surprised you haven't? What do you want to see them do together off camera, get lunch together? It would either have to be a huge coincidence, or you'd have to stalk them. Please don't stalk these men. Just enjoy them on camera.
@@Adam-kn3tv please don't stalk them lol ok
Jeez 👀 I’m not that hard to understand am I?
Ha, not for me. I was confused by the captions being there.
Nope, not at all
No..but im from england and named James
I figured it was a rib
lol not at all. You’re a great host.
Doesnt Raven have a genius level IQ? If so, they definitely see the world in a completely different way. A way most of us would say is mad. I’ve always enjoyed his work.
That's what I've always heard/read
Raven often goes out of his way to advertise his IQ 😂
Raven is a Creative Genius
BIG UPS ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ for wearing Iron Maiden
Hell to the yeah
Love you James
Why are there subtitles? You couldn't pick two better well spoken regional accents if you tried
I would love to see Raven Mark Mero and Steve Austin do a table for three on the WWE Network and have them all sit back and tell stories about their days and WCW together and also pay tribute to Brian Pillman
You can definitely see the influence that HBK had on young Stevie in that thumbnail
Raven should have been the Cerebral Assassin in WWF/E !!!! Imagine him doing the mind game stuff with Rock , Austin , Taker etc... instead of a 1 dimensional hardcore wrestler . Even if they didn't take it as far as my opening comment , there was still TONS more Raven could have done in that company in that vein instead of hitting and getting hit with trash cans .
Great episode!
Raven was in a few chats on Sam Hill American and SaiyanZ. His finishing move ‘Even Flo’ worked he claimed at the time he was wrestling.
How mental that you can take something as brutal and simple as a DDT, and make it completely your own. He crafted that body language that may as well be leading up to him taking your head off with a pruning saw. The chair spot was just magical too. If he had gone a bit more 'seething' and a bit less 'what about me', the sitting in the corner gimmick would have been unstoppable.
I would love to see Raven Mark Mero and Steve Austin do a table for three on the WWE Network and have them all sit back and tell stories about their days and WCW together and also pay tribute to Brian Pillman
I didn't even know he was sick!
I dig your input
Great production as always, but I wouldn’t suggest the caption as they’re very triggering to the eye sense to the screen with flashing imaging which might cause a discomfort or nonsensical image for some
Not sure if Stevie reads this, but I had a question about something that I discovered in looking back at Raven's promos from ECW and something Cornette pointed out in reviewing the McMahon documentary that I wondered if he had the answer to. Raven cut a promo on Sandman that referenced wishing that he had killed his dad, but that he died before he had the chance in 1999. Vince gave a Playboy interview in 2001 where he was quoted about his abusive stepfather as saying, ""It's unfortunate that he died before I could kill him."
Was that something that Scott had heard from Vince that he decided to use or was it just a really weird coincidence (or, more oddly, did Vince steal the line from Raven for some reason)? If Scott used some of Vince for Raven, it could be one of the reasons why Vince didn't use Raven properly instead of Vince not "getting" Raven.
LOL Stevie really took the HBK fandom serious (re: the thumbnail)
I was a WCW kid.. still am thru and thru (we didn't really get ECW or much WWF here in NZ in 96/97). I wish they hadn't made The Flock such a pack of idiots.. if they had any substance they could have been something to really contend with, rather than that Dungeon Of Doom jobber trough.
Everytime I hear someone had a great mind for the business they are dead
Reading about Ravens high IQ with his multiple disorders, it is easy to understand how he had a mind for the business.
Stevie looking look Shawn in the thumbnail!
In ECW, Raven's ddt was just called the ddt. The Raven Effect was in WWE and TNA.
It was called the Evenflow for a long while, too!
@@kryptikus29 I thought it was the evenflow in wcw ?
Why does James get captions? Is it because we can't understand his accent?
Who the hell can’t understand him?
Those captions are SO distracting. And so completely unnecessary.
If captions *have* to be used they need to be in ‘normal’ text (like this) and at the bottom of the screen- like regular captions. But they’re not necessary because James speaks English!!!!
Bloody hell
@@Mere_Puffery I agree. I don't get it. I've never had trouble understanding him. I've actually had more trouble understanding his guests more often.
Quoth the Raven, never more!
You 2 look like Shawn Michaels and HHH in the thumbnail!
Both I think, like Tesla, madness and genius are not necessarily exclusive
The only way a mullet comes back is if it comes back with Eddie Guerrero
Johnny Polo
My only memory of Raven is a grunge dude coming to the ring with a grocery cart full of weapons
Wasn't much more to it than that honestly.
What a shame
Memory serves correct facelift