Sunfyre is the one who deserved better. That gorgeous and faithful golden dragon that Aegon was flying on. But as other have said, Meleys was one of the few dragons that could fight against Vhagar solo... they were both veterans of many battles, but Vhagar's size also gave her an age disadvantage. She was far slower than Meleys, and Rhaenys was not stranger to battle on dragonback herself. If it had just been Vhagar and Aemond there, I think Rhaenys and Meleys would have won. But that first strike by Vhagar while the other two dragons were tangled up in battle took away any advantages the smaller dragon held. But now the King and his dragon are out of the war, leaving the Greens with only two dragons... Vhagar and Dreamfyre (Haelena's dragon).
If she ran away, all the black allies would not be able to trust their loyalties. It's not hard to understand: if you abandon your vassals, your vassals abandon you. Secondly... would you have killed your brother's children so easily? She could hope for a peace treaty, during the ceremony
Sorry but no, in the books both aegon and Aemond trap her so she couldn’t leave anyways. Makes much more sense. In war if you’re at a disadvantage you regroup and try again, suiciding only makes sense if the objective is crucial to the point it’s worth the risk, especially if reinforcements are coming but this is a small castle with no backup.
@@VeniVidiVici100 there is NO change from the books, unlike asoiaf it is written from an extremely bias point of view of the blacks, this is called reading comprehension. An understanding of bias etc, Rhaenys was aware of the horrors of war between dragons, she believed Aegon was dead and hoped knowing it was unlikely, she could take out Aemon too, even if not vhaegar and end the war today.
@@dylankearney4000 The only change from the book is that Vhagar and Sunfyre both fight her at the same time, rather than Aemond taking out Aegon and then fighting Rhaenys alone. Besides, in both cases, Rhaenys refused to flee.
Despite Rhaenys dying she went out like a legend and the Greens have lost this one. Cole's plan didn't go as planned, Aemond let his feelings get in the way because I heard this guy hold grudges so he purposely burnt his brother, Aegon lost Sunfyre and his legs, and I know Aegon chose to go to the war himself but this would put a conflict in Alicent and Cole's relationship when Alicent finds out Aegon has no legs. The show already foreshadows us about when Alicent drank the same drink she gave to that maiden who got pregnant off of Aegon. Alicent didn't want Cole's child I don't blame her Cole has anger issues when he's mad.
Eve Best (the actress who plays Rhaenys) said in an interview that she went back bc it was her duty as a warrior and there was small chance to injure/defeat Vaghar…and end the war.
Rhaenys was no warrior, there is no canonized evidence of her ever going off to war before this..in fact it is said that previous to this Westeros had known nearly 80 years of peace..in fact the show turned Rhaenys into a war criminal when in the last season she mvrdered at least a hundred poor, oppressed innocent peasants who had nothing to do with her being held captive and had merely came out to celebrate the coronation of their new King only to be brutally mvrdered
@@thebruisedkind5345 it tracked for me that once dragons are set loose in the war that Rhaenys would commit to being a dragon lord. She has always been duty bound.
Vaghar is freaking enormous. The older dragon of the world, and one of the three dragon of Aegon the conqueror. Aegon use Baleron, Vaghar and Meraxes to unite the 7th realm of Westeros, so Vaghar have experimented much battle than all other dragons. But Vaghar is mighty but Vaghar is also old and slow. Some other dragons younger than Vaghar is also powerfull. Meleys is one of the dragons in Westeros that can challenge Vaghar. Meleys is about 60 year old. She was the fastest dragon of Westeros when she was young. Her first rider was princess Alyssa Targaryan, the mother of Viserys and Daemon. Rhaenys became her rider 42 years before the dance of Dragon. She is one of the rare dragons that could have defeated Vaghar, she is in her prime, she is faster, and her rider Rhaenys is very experienced. Why didn't Rhaenys run away? She knows that she is one of the few people who might be able to defeat Vaghar, and she knows that if she doesn't fight him, then it might be up to Rhaenyra, or Baella to have to fight Vaghar... She couldn't run away ...Because she refused to see her granddaughter die between Vaghar's fangs, she had to try. If Rhaenys had defeated Vaghar, she would have ended the war before it became too brutal. Caraxes, Daemon's dragon, is younger than Meleys by a few years (but they are roughly the same generation). Caraxes's first rider was the father of Rhaenys, Aemon Targaryen, the first born of king Jaehaerys (the old king). This dragon is very fast and agressive and have the experience of many war (Dornish's war, Triarchy's war, etc...). So technicaly, this is one of the most experienced dragons in war. It is not the only dragon that can challenge Vaghar. Vaghar is not the only old dragon of Westeros. They are other dragon older than Meleys. Like the Cannibal, a wild dragon that has never had a master and is said to be potentially as large as Vaghar. And there is also Vermithor, the old king's personal dragon. This dragon is almost a century old, it is the dragon that we see at the end of season 1 (for whom Daemon sings). This dragon is almost as colossal as Vaghar, and is equally experienced. He is without a dragon tree. There is also Silverwing, the dragon of Queen Alysane, the wife of the old king. Also without a dragon tree, but also more massive than Meleys and Caraxes. Another dragon of this generation is Sheepstealer. Also without a dragon tree, also quite massive. And there are of course the dragons of Rhaenyra's generation: Syrax, and Sea Smoke, younger dragons (but older than those of Baella or Jacaerys). There are also many other dragons.
who tf asked this anyway? daemon jumped from caraxes onto aemond and took his other eye with dark sister sending vhagar to the deep sea until he drowned. daemon and caraxes may have died but they were proof that vhagar could be beaten and they did the next few dragons and dragon riders a favor. I don't think anyone could've pulled that off but them. and vhagar was a huge threat if he was ever to lived longer
Rhaenys had to try and fight - she had a chance to end the war right there and then if she killed Aemond - Greens would be almost defenseless after losing both dragons and would have to surrender. I think it was part her guilt for not acting in the Dragonpit in S1E9; and partially the fact that she came there to defend the castle and Rhaenyra's subjects and that job was not done. She can't just escape to save herself and leave Rhaenyra's vassals to Cole (who executed the last lord he captured) and Aemond (who essentially just attempted to kill his own brother). Rhaenys is no coward.
So dodge the slower less agile dragon, light Coles army up, then lead Vegar away from dragonstone. She lost to the exact blind spot she used to attack sunfire.
why would a parent name their child after a high ranking member of an elite oppressive colonizing ruling class, who, in season one, mvrdered at least a hundred poor, innocent members of oppressed class, who had nothing do with her imprisonment and then, astonishingly, when given the chance to kill those other elitists that were responsible for imprisonment, chose to spare them. Maybe they should as all the parents who named thier child after the biggest war criminal in the history of Westeros, Daenyres Targaryen
Aemond and Cole's plan was to ambush whichever rider+dragon showed up to defend Rook's Rest. If it was Rhaenyra then perfect, if it was Daemon then that'd be good too, but taking out Rhaenys+Meleys was definitely worthwhile. If none showed up, then all the Black's allies would see that they couldn't depend on them to come to their aid when they were under attack. It was a good plan, but Aegon wasn't part of it, or even in on it. He just got drunk, decided to go have a fight, and got himself and Sunfyre f'd up good and proper. Aemond didn't plan in advance to kill Aegon: he was just being an opportunist. When he saw Aegon join the fight he held back, probably hoping that Aegon would get humiliated at worst or killed at best, and then he flamed both other dragons, again not caring, or maybe hoping, that Aegon would come off badly. Rhaenys went back because of the issue of showing comittment to the Black's allies: if she'd fled Vhagar then all the Black's allies would know that they couldn't depend on Rhaenyra for support if they were attacked by the Greens' dragons. Also, on a personal level, it would have been cowardly to run from a fight and Rhaenys was nothing if not brave. RIP The Queen That Never Was...
26:17 You've made some really perceptive & informed observations, there, Trixy. You were quite right to say that, once the dragons were involved, there will only be terrible carnage; how many of the audience were complaining that the story had been too slow, up till now? Well, now they'll get what they wished for. Will they feel the same in a few more episodes?
Aemond had not planned for Aegon to join the battle. That came as an impulse decision that surprised everyone else. Rhaenys didn't try to flee because she wouldn't have been able to outfly the bigger dragon (same as Luke earlier). So better fight upfront than turn around and be even more vulnerable.
She had a job to do. It was to protect the people and castle. Also she felt guilty because she could have killed all of them at the coronation and none of this would have happened. Also her children are dead and Corlys has a bastard. This is war, things are not ideal. She said her dragon's name many times. It's meleys
She knew she couldn’t leave because she promised to protect these people ❤ the only way he could kill her was by sneaking her ❤️The queen who never was fought brave her and Meleyes
She is a warrior .. She already took down 1 dragon. If she kills or even hurts Vhagar... the war is literally over even if she dies also. If she takes out 2 dragons, the king and prince, the greens are finished.
Rhaenys and Melee's really took Aemond down their initial one on one. If only she kept attacking while Vhagar was grounded .....game over. Daemon's plan would've worked honestly. Even he knew one dragon couldn't do it 🥺
Rheanys is a Targaryen and a warrior. She went to Rook's Rest to fight. Just running from Aemond and Vhagar would be considered craven. She had to take a chance to take down Vhagar and she nearly did. But Aemond uses another sneak attack. Also remember that she lost a son and found out her husband is cheating. He has a bastard son that was the one she was talking to when she was calling his mother beautiful and him comely.
@@thebruisedkind5345 You don't have to fight a war to be a warrior, it's more about the mindset or principles you live by. This was Aemond's first battle, he's not a warrior either? Daemon wasn't a warrior before Stepstones? Arryk and Erryk were also not warriors in your eyes because they didn't fight in wars, right?
@@anhkriva5274no they weren't warriors either, but the difference is they were highly trained in the arts and skills pertaining to was Raenys was not, in fact, according to the show, Rhaenys, a member of the oppressive ruling class, mvrdering all those poor innocent members of the oppressed class back in season one, who had nothing to with her imprisonment, and were only eager to celebrate the coronation of the new King only to be killed by some over privileged elitist makes her a war criminal
"He's very useful. I don't know what his intentions are." - Larys Strong wants to be useful. He offers services to those who can pay for it in form of a high status position. His behaviour is that of any competent job seeker: get a job from the best paying employer.
Rhaenys went there to defend rook's rest. She wasn't going to run away from that for any reason. You mentioned how she could have taken everyone out earlier in the dragon pit, there is an interview with Eve Best where she references that, as if the Rook's Rest fight was her chance to actually follow through with what she can do to the greens now that the war has fully started. Great reaction. But, unfortunately ..... no character or dragon is safe in this story. Strap in. It is going to get worse.
dont try to defend it. It was stupid writing to create drama and instead it just made the character look stupid. It is ok to say it was stupid because it was.
@@randallwilliamson3838 So let me get this straight. Would you have killed your beloved brother's children so easily? Including children? Do you realize what bullshit you're talking about?
@@randallwilliamson3838 Its just a TV show. Vhagar sneaking up on meleys for a death attack, aegon arriving right as meleys does..... neither are likely or believable. TV shows have these types of of deliberate contrivances because a lot of people enjoy them. It is a trade off still being made to appeal to a wider audience. Maybe someday we can get rid of them entirely (audiences are more mature than they have been historically, for sure) .. but for now, it is what it is. I'm fine with that. IMO, the dance of the dragons is worth seeing on screen in exchange for a handful of poor setups.
Rhaenys went back because she was a skilled warrior who was confident in her skills. If she had won, she would have not only saved the Queen, but her husband and grandchildren as well.
Trixy:"At least kill him!"(referring to Aegon) Yeah, the kid who didn't want to be king, who was manipulated in the hopes of making him a puppet and lost his son to Daemon's treachery and has been trying to be a good king to the people, no thanks to his mother and grandfather. HE'S the one who should be punished...(sarcasm) Greens win...NOT flawless victory....And Aegon was crippled, yay!
In the book she is trapped so she cannot leave so it makes more understandable but here, she had a chance to retreat and regroup and save herself and her dragon! Especially beacuse she saw it was a trap.She should have retreated! But, i think the reason she continued was because of Dameon constantly bringing up the fact that she could have ended Aegon and the greens with her dragon when broke out of the dragon pit. I like to think that she felt guilty by not ending this when she could have done so. So she stayed , if only not to hear that assholes voice about how she didnt do enough! lol
The people who seem unbothered by Harrenhal seem quite zen. Simon Strong seems honorable but very chill. Alys has embraced it for what it is. Maybe that's the key to being able to live & sleep there: no guilty conscience to rattle.
Funny, I said "sit there and look pretty" a second before you did (17:00ish). lol. Raenys's low flying tactics was dumb for an experienced rider. Vhagar was able to surprise her beyond the castle.
Would you rather die in battle? or die of an illness or waste away with age. Rhaenys was 55 she knew her death would be on the back of a dragon in battle or wasting away. I think she chose the best of the three. She also thinks all her children are dead plus she knew this war would be her end so she decided on when and how. Now she is a Martyr to the Black's as well.
Nah I don't think Aemond planned to kill his brother but, when he saw him messing up his and cole's plan he was like fine I'll sit tight and let him get messed up by the other dragon and if he gets killed in the crossfire "oopsie" im king now.
So Rhaenys walks up to some random black guy, probably the only one around and says "hey you look like my husband" even though the two actors look nothing alike other than being black?...AND IT TURNS OUT SHE WAS RIGHT!!!!! the one random black guy milling about just happened to be the illegitimate son of the main black actor on the show..did that really happen? LMAO turns out Rhaenys racist intuitions were spot on
Aemond likely didn't wanted kill brother but rather teach that arrogant toxic brat lesson. just like everyone else around him and if he gets wounded ? good ... atleast he wont interfere with smarter people leading war
Bullshit take. Aemond wanted the throne and now he'll get to temporarily rule as Prince Regent. As for Aegon, all they had to do was tell him their plan and he likely would've stayed in King's Landing. You can't force someone to take the throne, not teach him how to rule, and then undermine him at every turn.
@@joeloates1685 Aemond never shown ANY interest in throne that's simply lie he just don't respect his brother at all and won't pass any chance to troll or humiliate him if he wanted aegon to die he wouldn't join battle at all and aegon would be 100% dead no one would really suspect anything since vhagar often refuse to follow orders he doesn't need army , aegon or cole to win battle Aemond behave as he behave because he is obsessed by Daemon trying to be exactly like him ... and we all know he behaved toward viserys during his rule , seeing him as weak and naive fool for soo many years
@@alanea5860Aemond’s never shown any interest in the throne… are you kidding me? You have NOT watched the show ☠️ Throughout the entirety of episode 9 he complains about having to find Aegon who he deems to not be worthy of being king, and Aemond literally says to Criston “It is I who should be…” and then he silences himself, solely because it would be treason. Aemond wants the throne BADLY. Your arguments are not remotely worth considering when you’re in denial of one of the most key elements of Aegon and Aemond’s relationship.
Aegon isn't confirmed dead so don't worry about him, rhaenys on the other hand her dragon fell on top of her and exploded so she is definitely dead also she was a side character so it wasn't too hard to predict that she would die eventually.
That's actually complete BS go rewatch that scene when you see Meleys falling near ground in last scene there is just empty saddle Rhaenys is mising but yeah it's unlikely for her to survive fall from such height asuming free fall + she is supposed to die if we follow book (ok show often doesn't but still .. her scenes in last ep felt like wrap up to various aspects of story)
@@alanea5860 What's complete BS literally everything i said is correct, she's in the saddle we see her fall from an angle that's on top of her and then it cuts immediately to the camera down so she's still in the saddle you can she her
@@Sold1er_Boy no we see her from top then we see dragon falling with empty saddle from ground you should check it few more times ;) and maybe *0,25 speed its bit blurred by effects but Rhaenys silhouette clearly sticked out from saddle even when she crouched she clearly fell off at some point ergo your speech about her getting crushed by dragon is BS
@@alanea5860 The upper camera cuts immediately to the one down so there is no time for her to drop cause we would have seen her since she would have fallen in a straight line. She is still on the saddle it's just extremely hard to see cause the sun is on the opposite side so it creates a shadow. Also she was completely strapped in so she couldn't have fallen, they showed that to us.
@@Sold1er_Boy another BS .. most of her fall is not shown we see her in like 100-75% heigh then cut to 10% - 5% and another cut before crash ... this is pointless you are too lazy to even rewatch scene you barely remember so this talk just ended
He should be about 19 or 20 according to the actual timeline. 16 years passed since he was around 3. If the showrunners themselves claim he’s 22 ig they don’t know what they’re doing in terms of consistency lol
@@Leo_ofRedKeep Yes, I’m aware. But we are talking about the show, where Alicent and Rhaenyra are the same age and Aegon and Rhaenyra are 15 years apart as opposed to 10. That’s what I was referring to :)
@@penguin50279 going back 2 more times. There is a reason why in the books she was simply ambushed and all 3 dragons crashed. This going back was stupid AF. Basically the end was losing Blacks biggest dragon, one of their better people, and still losing the castle... If I am a lord on the fence I would not think that was a win in any way. If she had returned and the story was, Rhaenys killed hundreds of men and took down the king and his dragon and then had to retreat because of Vhagar, I would still be on the fence.
@@randallwilliamson3838 i saw it as she had a chance to take out the greens biggest weapon and she took it. meleys does stand a chance against vhagar, the only problem was the stupid sneak attack. i wish they wrote that part better cuz it makes rhaenys look a lil dumb lol
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Sunfyre is the one who deserved better. That gorgeous and faithful golden dragon that Aegon was flying on. But as other have said, Meleys was one of the few dragons that could fight against Vhagar solo... they were both veterans of many battles, but Vhagar's size also gave her an age disadvantage. She was far slower than Meleys, and Rhaenys was not stranger to battle on dragonback herself. If it had just been Vhagar and Aemond there, I think Rhaenys and Meleys would have won. But that first strike by Vhagar while the other two dragons were tangled up in battle took away any advantages the smaller dragon held. But now the King and his dragon are out of the war, leaving the Greens with only two dragons... Vhagar and Dreamfyre (Haelena's dragon).
3* daeron has tessarion the blue Queen
If she ran away, all the black allies would not be able to trust their loyalties. It's not hard to understand: if you abandon your vassals, your vassals abandon you. Secondly... would you have killed your brother's children so easily? She could hope for a peace treaty, during the ceremony
Facts. People are so dumb to even consider fleeing from a battle when you're there to fight your enemy and defend your allies, and WIN.
Sorry but no, in the books both aegon and Aemond trap her so she couldn’t leave anyways. Makes much more sense.
In war if you’re at a disadvantage you regroup and try again, suiciding only makes sense if the objective is crucial to the point it’s worth the risk, especially if reinforcements are coming but this is a small castle with no backup.
@@VeniVidiVici100 there is NO change from the books, unlike asoiaf it is written from an extremely bias point of view of the blacks, this is called reading comprehension. An understanding of bias etc, Rhaenys was aware of the horrors of war between dragons, she believed Aegon was dead and hoped knowing it was unlikely, she could take out Aemon too, even if not vhaegar and end the war today.
@@dylankearney4000 The only change from the book is that Vhagar and Sunfyre both fight her at the same time, rather than Aemond taking out Aegon and then fighting Rhaenys alone.
Besides, in both cases, Rhaenys refused to flee.
Despite Rhaenys dying she went out like a legend and the Greens have lost this one. Cole's plan didn't go as planned, Aemond let his feelings get in the way because I heard this guy hold grudges so he purposely burnt his brother, Aegon lost Sunfyre and his legs, and I know Aegon chose to go to the war himself but this would put a conflict in Alicent and Cole's relationship when Alicent finds out Aegon has no legs. The show already foreshadows us about when Alicent drank the same drink she gave to that maiden who got pregnant off of Aegon. Alicent didn't want Cole's child I don't blame her Cole has anger issues when he's mad.
Eve Best (the actress who plays Rhaenys) said in an interview that she went back bc it was her duty as a warrior and there was small chance to injure/defeat Vaghar…and end the war.
Rhaenys was no warrior, there is no canonized evidence of her ever going off to war before this..in fact it is said that previous to this Westeros had known nearly 80 years of peace..in fact the show turned Rhaenys into a war criminal when in the last season she mvrdered at least a hundred poor, oppressed innocent peasants who had nothing to do with her being held captive and had merely came out to celebrate the coronation of their new King only to be brutally mvrdered
@@thebruisedkind5345 it tracked for me that once dragons are set loose in the war that Rhaenys would commit to being a dragon lord. She has always been duty bound.
Vaghar is freaking enormous. The older dragon of the world, and one of the three dragon of Aegon the conqueror. Aegon use Baleron, Vaghar and Meraxes to unite the 7th realm of Westeros, so Vaghar have experimented much battle than all other dragons.
But Vaghar is mighty but Vaghar is also old and slow. Some other dragons younger than Vaghar is also powerfull. Meleys is one of the dragons in Westeros that can challenge Vaghar.
Meleys is about 60 year old. She was the fastest dragon of Westeros when she was young. Her first rider was princess Alyssa Targaryan, the mother of Viserys and Daemon. Rhaenys became her rider 42 years before the dance of Dragon. She is one of the rare dragons that could have defeated Vaghar, she is in her prime, she is faster, and her rider Rhaenys is very experienced.
Why didn't Rhaenys run away? She knows that she is one of the few people who might be able to defeat Vaghar, and she knows that if she doesn't fight him, then it might be up to Rhaenyra, or Baella to have to fight Vaghar... She couldn't run away ...Because she refused to see her granddaughter die between Vaghar's fangs, she had to try. If Rhaenys had defeated Vaghar, she would have ended the war before it became too brutal.
Caraxes, Daemon's dragon, is younger than Meleys by a few years (but they are roughly the same generation). Caraxes's first rider was the father of Rhaenys, Aemon Targaryen, the first born of king Jaehaerys (the old king). This dragon is very fast and agressive and have the experience of many war (Dornish's war, Triarchy's war, etc...). So technicaly, this is one of the most experienced dragons in war. It is not the only dragon that can challenge Vaghar.
Vaghar is not the only old dragon of Westeros. They are other dragon older than Meleys. Like the Cannibal, a wild dragon that has never had a master and is said to be potentially as large as Vaghar. And there is also Vermithor, the old king's personal dragon. This dragon is almost a century old, it is the dragon that we see at the end of season 1 (for whom Daemon sings). This dragon is almost as colossal as Vaghar, and is equally experienced. He is without a dragon tree. There is also Silverwing, the dragon of Queen Alysane, the wife of the old king. Also without a dragon tree, but also more massive than Meleys and Caraxes. Another dragon of this generation is Sheepstealer. Also without a dragon tree, also quite massive.
And there are of course the dragons of Rhaenyra's generation: Syrax, and Sea Smoke, younger dragons (but older than those of Baella or Jacaerys).
There are also many other dragons.
who tf asked this anyway? daemon jumped from caraxes onto aemond and took his other eye with dark sister sending vhagar to the deep sea until he drowned. daemon and caraxes may have died but they were proof that vhagar could be beaten and they did the next few dragons and dragon riders a favor. I don't think anyone could've pulled that off but them. and vhagar was a huge threat if he was ever to lived longer
also, the only dragon that can beat vhagar is my dragon and it's under my pants you want to see my big dragon? it's enormous!
@@peytonsmith1062 No spoils plz. I'm a reader of book so you cannot spoil me, but they are other people here...
Rhaenys had to try and fight - she had a chance to end the war right there and then if she killed Aemond - Greens would be almost defenseless after losing both dragons and would have to surrender.
I think it was part her guilt for not acting in the Dragonpit in S1E9; and partially the fact that she came there to defend the castle and Rhaenyra's subjects and that job was not done.
She can't just escape to save herself and leave Rhaenyra's vassals to Cole (who executed the last lord he captured) and Aemond (who essentially just attempted to kill his own brother). Rhaenys is no coward.
So dodge the slower less agile dragon, light Coles army up, then lead Vegar away from dragonstone.
She lost to the exact blind spot she used to attack sunfire.
Something tells me there's going to be a lot of baby girls named Rhaenys this year!
why would a parent name their child after a high ranking member of an elite oppressive colonizing ruling class, who, in season one, mvrdered at least a hundred poor, innocent members of oppressed class, who had nothing do with her imprisonment and then, astonishingly, when given the chance to kill those other elitists that were responsible for imprisonment, chose to spare them. Maybe they should as all the parents who named thier child after the biggest war criminal in the history of Westeros, Daenyres Targaryen
Aemond and Cole's plan was to ambush whichever rider+dragon showed up to defend Rook's Rest. If it was Rhaenyra then perfect, if it was Daemon then that'd be good too, but taking out Rhaenys+Meleys was definitely worthwhile. If none showed up, then all the Black's allies would see that they couldn't depend on them to come to their aid when they were under attack. It was a good plan, but Aegon wasn't part of it, or even in on it. He just got drunk, decided to go have a fight, and got himself and Sunfyre f'd up good and proper. Aemond didn't plan in advance to kill Aegon: he was just being an opportunist. When he saw Aegon join the fight he held back, probably hoping that Aegon would get humiliated at worst or killed at best, and then he flamed both other dragons, again not caring, or maybe hoping, that Aegon would come off badly.
Rhaenys went back because of the issue of showing comittment to the Black's allies: if she'd fled Vhagar then all the Black's allies would know that they couldn't depend on Rhaenyra for support if they were attacked by the Greens' dragons. Also, on a personal level, it would have been cowardly to run from a fight and Rhaenys was nothing if not brave. RIP The Queen That Never Was...
26:17 You've made some really perceptive & informed observations, there, Trixy. You were quite right to say that, once the dragons were involved, there will only be terrible carnage; how many of the audience were complaining that the story had been too slow, up till now? Well, now they'll get what they wished for. Will they feel the same in a few more episodes?
Aemond had not planned for Aegon to join the battle. That came as an impulse decision that surprised everyone else.
Rhaenys didn't try to flee because she wouldn't have been able to outfly the bigger dragon (same as Luke earlier). So better fight upfront than turn around and be even more vulnerable.
Technically, she could have outflown Vhagar. The only reason Luke hadn't been able was because of the storm they were flying in.
@@phousefilms Is it so? Do small birds outfly larger ones? I doubt it. Flying predators are larger than their prey. Larger wings give the advantage.
@@Leo_ofRedKeep Meleys is the fastest Dragon is Westeros, according to the book ( and S1e5 she’s shown diving like a Peregrine Falcon).
She had a job to do. It was to protect the people and castle. Also she felt guilty because she could have killed all of them at the coronation and none of this would have happened. Also her children are dead and Corlys has a bastard. This is war, things are not ideal.
She said her dragon's name many times. It's meleys
She knew she couldn’t leave because she promised to protect these people ❤ the only way he could kill her was by sneaking her ❤️The queen who never was fought brave her and Meleyes
...animals always suffers under the hands of human beings!@ 😢 Love the dragons!
my heart is torn to see dragons killing each other, rhaenys and meleys dying, it's a great loss
She is a warrior ..
She already took down 1 dragon. If she kills or even hurts Vhagar... the war is literally over even if she dies also. If she takes out 2 dragons, the king and prince, the greens are finished.
Rhaenys and Melee's really took Aemond down their initial one on one. If only she kept attacking while Vhagar was grounded .....game over. Daemon's plan would've worked honestly. Even he knew one dragon couldn't do it 🥺
Rheanys is a Targaryen and a warrior. She went to Rook's Rest to fight. Just running from Aemond and Vhagar would be considered craven. She had to take a chance to take down Vhagar and she nearly did. But Aemond uses another sneak attack.
Also remember that she lost a son and found out her husband is cheating. He has a bastard son that was the one she was talking to when she was calling his mother beautiful and him comely.
how was she a warrior?..when had she went of to war previous to this?
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You don't have to fight a war to be a warrior, it's more about the mindset or principles you live by. This was Aemond's first battle, he's not a warrior either? Daemon wasn't a warrior before Stepstones? Arryk and Erryk were also not warriors in your eyes because they didn't fight in wars, right?
@@anhkriva5274no they weren't warriors either, but the difference is they were highly trained in the arts and skills pertaining to was Raenys was not, in fact, according to the show, Rhaenys, a member of the oppressive ruling class, mvrdering all those poor innocent members of the oppressed class back in season one, who had nothing to with her imprisonment, and were only eager to celebrate the coronation of the new King only to be killed by some over privileged elitist makes her a war criminal
"He's very useful. I don't know what his intentions are." - Larys Strong wants to be useful. He offers services to those who can pay for it in form of a high status position. His behaviour is that of any competent job seeker: get a job from the best paying employer.
Trixie your reaction was phenomenal. You are right Aemond did this deliberately he wants the throne.
She felt guilty about not destroying the green team at the ceremony.
Also as a soldier there was no running away.
Rhaenys went there to defend rook's rest. She wasn't going to run away from that for any reason. You mentioned how she could have taken everyone out earlier in the dragon pit, there is an interview with Eve Best where she references that, as if the Rook's Rest fight was her chance to actually follow through with what she can do to the greens now that the war has fully started.
Great reaction. But, unfortunately ..... no character or dragon is safe in this story. Strap in. It is going to get worse.
dont try to defend it. It was stupid writing to create drama and instead it just made the character look stupid. It is ok to say it was stupid because it was.
@@randallwilliamson3838 So let me get this straight. Would you have killed your beloved brother's children so easily? Including children? Do you realize what bullshit you're talking about?
@@randallwilliamson3838 Its just a TV show. Vhagar sneaking up on meleys for a death attack, aegon arriving right as meleys does..... neither are likely or believable. TV shows have these types of of deliberate contrivances because a lot of people enjoy them. It is a trade off still being made to appeal to a wider audience. Maybe someday we can get rid of them entirely (audiences are more mature than they have been historically, for sure) .. but for now, it is what it is. I'm fine with that. IMO, the dance of the dragons is worth seeing on screen in exchange for a handful of poor setups.
Rhaenys went back because she was a skilled warrior who was confident in her skills. If she had won, she would have not only saved the Queen, but her husband and grandchildren as well.
Trixy:"At least kill him!"(referring to Aegon)
Yeah, the kid who didn't want to be king, who was manipulated in the hopes of making him a puppet and lost his son to Daemon's treachery and has been trying to be a good king to the people, no thanks to his mother and grandfather. HE'S the one who should be punished...(sarcasm)
Greens win...NOT flawless victory....And Aegon was crippled, yay!
In the book she is trapped so she cannot leave so it makes more understandable but here, she had a chance to retreat and regroup and save herself and her dragon! Especially beacuse she saw it was a trap.She should have retreated! But, i think the reason she continued was because of Dameon constantly bringing up the fact that she could have ended Aegon and the greens with her dragon when broke out of the dragon pit. I like to think that she felt guilty by not ending this when she could have done so. So she stayed , if only not to hear that assholes voice about how she didnt do enough! lol
The people who seem unbothered by Harrenhal seem quite zen. Simon Strong seems honorable but very chill. Alys has embraced it for what it is. Maybe that's the key to being able to live & sleep there: no guilty conscience to rattle.
Funny, I said "sit there and look pretty" a second before you did (17:00ish). lol.
Raenys's low flying tactics was dumb for an experienced rider. Vhagar was able to surprise her beyond the castle.
Vhagar the so-called Queen of All Dragons,looking forward to meeting the Dragon King Vermithor..
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Would you rather die in battle? or die of an illness or waste away with age. Rhaenys was 55 she knew her death would be on the back of a dragon in battle or wasting away. I think she chose the best of the three. She also thinks all her children are dead plus she knew this war would be her end so she decided on when and how. Now she is a Martyr to the Black's as well.
Nah I don't think Aemond planned to kill his brother but, when he saw him messing up his and cole's plan he was like fine I'll sit tight and let him get messed up by the other dragon and if he gets killed in the crossfire "oopsie" im king now.
So Rhaenys walks up to some random black guy, probably the only one around and says "hey you look like my husband" even though the two actors look nothing alike other than being black?...AND IT TURNS OUT SHE WAS RIGHT!!!!! the one random black guy milling about just happened to be the illegitimate son of the main black actor on the show..did that really happen? LMAO
turns out Rhaenys racist intuitions were spot on
"She has a type" Rhaenys is not hitting on Alyn. He's her husband's bastard.
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RIP Rhaenys The Queen who never was, died and fought like a true Dragon rider
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Daemon is only a few years younger than Viserys, about 50 years old.
really, in the source material Daemon isnt Daemon said to be 39
@@thebruisedkind5345 week viserys does at 68, but it's not clear when he was born.
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Aemond likely didn't wanted kill brother but rather teach that arrogant toxic brat lesson.
just like everyone else around him
and if he gets wounded ? good ... atleast he wont interfere with smarter people leading war
Bullshit take. Aemond wanted the throne and now he'll get to temporarily rule as Prince Regent. As for Aegon, all they had to do was tell him their plan and he likely would've stayed in King's Landing. You can't force someone to take the throne, not teach him how to rule, and then undermine him at every turn.
@@joeloates1685 Aemond never shown ANY interest in throne that's simply lie
he just don't respect his brother at all and won't pass any chance to troll or humiliate him
if he wanted aegon to die he wouldn't join battle at all and aegon would be 100% dead
no one would really suspect anything since vhagar often refuse to follow orders
he doesn't need army , aegon or cole to win battle
Aemond behave as he behave because he is obsessed by Daemon trying to be exactly like him ... and we all know he behaved toward viserys during his rule , seeing him as weak and naive fool for soo many years
@@alanea5860Aemond’s never shown any interest in the throne… are you kidding me? You have NOT watched the show ☠️ Throughout the entirety of episode 9 he complains about having to find Aegon who he deems to not be worthy of being king, and Aemond literally says to Criston “It is I who should be…” and then he silences himself, solely because it would be treason.
Aemond wants the throne BADLY. Your arguments are not remotely worth considering when you’re in denial of one of the most key elements of Aegon and Aemond’s relationship.
Maybe Rhaenys was feeling despondent after being confronted with evidence of Corlys” infidelity
Aegon isn't confirmed dead so don't worry about him, rhaenys on the other hand her dragon fell on top of her and exploded so she is definitely dead also she was a side character so it wasn't too hard to predict that she would die eventually.
That's actually complete BS go rewatch that scene
when you see Meleys falling near ground in last scene there is just empty saddle Rhaenys is mising
but yeah it's unlikely for her to survive fall from such height asuming free fall + she is supposed to die if we follow book (ok show often doesn't but still .. her scenes in last ep felt like wrap up to various aspects of story)
@@alanea5860 What's complete BS literally everything i said is correct, she's in the saddle we see her fall from an angle that's on top of her and then it cuts immediately to the camera down so she's still in the saddle you can she her
@@Sold1er_Boy no we see her from top then we see dragon falling with empty saddle from ground you should check it few more times ;) and maybe *0,25 speed
its bit blurred by effects but Rhaenys silhouette clearly sticked out from saddle even when she crouched
she clearly fell off at some point ergo your speech about her getting crushed by dragon is BS
@@alanea5860 The upper camera cuts immediately to the one down so there is no time for her to drop cause we would have seen her since she would have fallen in a straight line. She is still on the saddle it's just extremely hard to see cause the sun is on the opposite side so it creates a shadow. Also she was completely strapped in so she couldn't have fallen, they showed that to us.
@@Sold1er_Boy another BS .. most of her fall is not shown we see her in like 100-75% heigh then cut to 10% - 5% and another cut before crash
... this is pointless you are too lazy to even rewatch scene you barely remember so this talk just ended
she’s one of your favorite characters yet you don’t even know her name 😂
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Her dragon's name was Maelys! RIP 😢
Meleys, but close enough, since what you spelled is how it's pronounced.
Great n awesome Reaction Video Trixy Blue!
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Oh, how bad, the good guys died.
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Party over grandpa Emond amd Veghar is hear soon Daeron too go goo green
I think Aegon is supposed to be about 22.
He should be about 19 or 20 according to the actual timeline. 16 years passed since he was around 3. If the showrunners themselves claim he’s 22 ig they don’t know what they’re doing in terms of consistency lol
@@lynnraven6101 Aegon is 22 in the book and short of 20 in the show.
@@Leo_ofRedKeep Yes, I’m aware. But we are talking about the show, where Alicent and Rhaenyra are the same age and Aegon and Rhaenyra are 15 years apart as opposed to 10. That’s what I was referring to :)
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Great video.
It was stupid writing which made the characters look stupid.
which part was stupid to you?
@penguin50279 ignore this goof. He's a Rings of Power fan.
@@penguin50279 going back 2 more times. There is a reason why in the books she was simply ambushed and all 3 dragons crashed. This going back was stupid AF. Basically the end was losing Blacks biggest dragon, one of their better people, and still losing the castle... If I am a lord on the fence I would not think that was a win in any way. If she had returned and the story was, Rhaenys killed hundreds of men and took down the king and his dragon and then had to retreat because of Vhagar, I would still be on the fence.
@@KDA8919when you have to start insulting, you have already lost.
@@randallwilliamson3838 i saw it as she had a chance to take out the greens biggest weapon and she took it. meleys does stand a chance against vhagar, the only problem was the stupid sneak attack. i wish they wrote that part better cuz it makes rhaenys look a lil dumb lol
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