They can push him on the population and since they're not enthusiasts and don't need a sports car. Just don't push evs on the people who are enthusiasts.
@@nitepatrol1873 It'll become unlawful when regulations make it too expensive to own the permits and taxes to own a combustion engine. I swear, it's like the car community is a special brand of stupid.
I loved the blatant political incorrect language in this video, and totally agree with what you are saying. Even here in Australia, they are pushing the electric car agenda, but the infrastructure isn't the best for long drives yet. I'll keep my petrol car for now, and have a Hybrid Toyota for my wife, mainly for fuel savings. Great Video. 👍
@@jaykay78666 OH GOD EV MOTORBIKES, like my cbr500r can just hit 300km and thats if I ride like a grandma. A ev motorbike will struggle to go cross country
Probably, I don’t mind this as an alternative. But I hate them as a mandated replacement pushed by politicians that don’t know what they’re talking about and just want to pretend they care about the environment.
When these car companies try and force everyone into electric they're in for a very rude awakening. Their sales will be dismal and the majority of people will reject them and unless govt hands them out most people can't afford them anyways.
This depresses me. Honestly an electric car with no sound, no manual transmission, no gears is just the most boring thing in the world to drive. It's fine for like busses and garbage trucks and stuff like that, but cars directed towards enthusiasts it's horrible.
This is very reasonable question. I actually was thinking the same for me. If they go too mass and the gasoline cars disappear, I will definitely lose the interest in cars.
That's a fair point. Things are changing and shifting. Electric cars are technically superior to combustion engines. I'm a physics teacher and I let my students think and analyze why they're superior. I really start to like some EV models on how they look, like the VW ID models, the Cupra. I think modifying cars will forever be there, just different. In that sentence, the hobby will remain to exist. We simply have to adapt. Note: haven't watched the video yet, I'll save that for later. I reacted right out of the gate.
@@PostTraumaticChessDisorder Completely agree. But this "adaptation" to the new technologies can't be sure will they bring us true pleasure of it, or just something we have to do, to make our lives easier. I hope you are right. We all know the World, the people in general are making progression every day, every minute to make our lives better, easier, but you know there are some "excuses". I mean about the propaganda, who is trying to explain something to us that is better, but actually is not, not even closer. This is the worst of all. For example what I remember now is the CEO of a famous japanese car brand ( I think was Nissan ) said that the electric cars are making much more damage to the nature, than the gasoline ones,and they think to limit or stop produce them for now. Thanks for the answer. :)
@@PostTraumaticChessDisorder technically superior doesn't mean more interesting, never meant it. Like with movies, look how great movies nowadays are made, and still, objectively, movies get worse and more boring over the years.
I think the scary thing about all this is... how much will gasoline cost as we inch closer to this transition to electric? And even more to consider.. how much are they going to charge you to charge your electric car once gasoline is phased out?
@@streetwatcher_ WTF? Where does this come from? Australia has a huge aftermarket industry and modified car scene. Old school and new school V8, Turbo and rotary stuff everywhere. Check out Summernats for an idea.
The fact that an electric car having to sit and wait 10-30+ mins to charge while it takes 10-30 seconds to pump fuel into a gas power car is just the first of many reasons why I’m 100% not in favour of these things. Plus how the companies can just “update” the car to possibly make it worst and having to get a new one? Hell nah to that BS.
Suv is for people who have family , a week-end family road trip and all that . When they are working they are not together in a suv when they are not working and they want to go out they go in a suv.
Not only would I look for a vehicle that can run longer than my bladder capacity time, I will be looking for a refill/recharge time less than my bladder empty time. I don't see EV's meeting that second requirement anytime soon. Great content, I appreciate your channel.
@@bobroberts2371 It does not matter if I drive more than 200 miles every day, or once a year. If the vehicle does not meet my needs on a daily basis, or once a year, it still does not meet my needs.
@@cory45x You have personal knowledge of how long it takes Immigration and Customs Enforcement to respond? How close to the border are you? Do you cross often?
Um ACKTCHUALLY, I'm offended when you talk about Teslas! :) You're right. It's basically an appliance. EV will never replace a perfect heel-toe downshift and hitting the apex. I have a MYP, and I will have a similar smile driving another 90 Celica GT-S again. ...but someone in my neighborhood has a Roush Mustang that wakes up the entire neighborhood every morning. I could live without that.
@@89five3five you want me to adapt do a soulless appliance that will only last 95k miles that also has no tuning potential, takes turns like a boat, and has 0 soul at all? I'll stick to my V8s until the end of time thank you very much.
I would say an SUV fits the roll of minivan better these days. There is a reason you barely see them around these days. Sedans just mean 4 door car - that hasn't gone away at all.
Thank you so so so much Craig sir for all the memories and love and knowledge you have given to me and all the true fast and the furious lovers around the world and no matter what anyone says The Fast and The furious will always be my favorite . God Bless you Craig
But no other mods? Anything to make it faster, handle differently etc? I think a lot of the fun of modifying a car is changing not just the external looks but the internal components.
I like what Porsche is doing with syn fuel research and koenigsegg did with the free valve motor. I don’t think gas is entirely dead. But it will take some very clever minds. I don’t want electric. I personally like the smell of exhaust fumes and gasoline, not so much axle oil. That stuff stinks! I love race cars and motor sports in general. I’ve finally got money to build a kind of fast fun great handling car and I’m going to do it!! Should be around 450/500 wheel hp after motor is built. Weighs around 3300 lbs and has 51/49 weight balance. Should do 0-60 in low 4’s high 3 second range and handle like it’s on rails! Do the quarter in around high 11’s low 12’s but it’s not meant for drag or dig races. She’s meant to handle and out run other cars! Not just a one truck pony!
@@JohnSmith-yl8sg Electric is much worse for the environment. The toxic batteries, randomly combusting and burning for hours, the mining for resources is much more damaging than a gas pipeline, takes more carbon to create electric cars, not enough charging stations/spend more time charging then driving. We literally don't have the electrical grid for it. When these car companies try and force everyone into electric they're in for a very rude awakening. Their sales will be dismal and the majority of people will reject them and unless govt hands them out most people can't afford them anyways.
EVs will kill WRC, and most motorports in general. In Rally, you have a lot of crashes, and sometimes fires. How would you react to a lithium fire, which have already ignited half of the course on fire?
And the vast amount of mining that will be needed for copper, rare earth magnets, etc, etc, etc. We are still doing unregulated burning of fossil fuels to dig holes in the earth in order to make these damn things. Everyone in the arguments always seems to forget how things actually get made, consumer products we all love are horrible for the environment in manufacturing and subsequent E-waste.
@@corail53 this is why most car people prefer older cars, because they can be disassembled, toiled on, then reassembled, and it will work just as good, or even better. Electric cars have integrated batpacks, which makes them irrepairable and pretty much disposable products. Electric motors are easy to tune, but it's not the best idea.
For most people, a large part of modding cars and the joy of doing so, comes from extracting as much power as you can from the internal combustion engine, and the vast ways you could do so. Sure you have many many other mods that you can still do on electric cars: suspension, body, steering, brakes & tyres, aero, the dreaded electrical (no shit), and the rather useless aesthetic mods. But the meat and potatoes of it really just comes down to the drivetrain, engine tranny and driveshaft components like diffs. Electric cars just lack all of that & you can’t mod an electric motor. No induction, no life (as in vibrations, sounds, shifting, etc), no nitrous, no modding motors and their components, no manual transmissions, etc. I wholeheartedly believe that electric cars are normie crap, I 100% believe you can’t be a true car guy if you only focus on electric cars. The progress to getting you to fast 0-60s, huge horsepower, etc, is more important than the actual results. That’s why many of us bitch so much about the bought vs built debate. To many of us, the hard work that goes into to modding cars to achieve whatever you want, is more important and worthwhile than the final product. Electric cars are lifeless & remove the vast majority and funnest parts of modding cars. I wouldn’t trade their performance capability over their modding capability any day for any reason. Anyone can buy a car with performance, be it combustion or electric, as a car guy, I believe the heart of it comes from fixing and building your own car. Anyone who would happily trade that for easy power (again, be it combustion or electric) isn’t a real car person & is just showing off and being a poser. And don’t get pedantic about “oh so now we can’t buy Ferraris and Porsches and Lamborghinis and such because that means we’re not real car guys???” That’s not what I mean and y’all know it. It’s a whole different thing when a mechanic works up to be able to finally buy his dream Ferrari than the snob who has never held a wrench in his hand buying a McLaren :| I love seeing shitheads showing off their Teslas at car meets, many of them don’t know smack about cars beyond 0-60s and horsepower, torque? What is that? Then you talk to them and their like “yea I put this body kit and wheels and brakes on” etc and you’re like “you yourself or you sent it to a mechanic or shop to do it for you,” then they get all quiet and get mad at you and talk crap about your car. And idk, I’ve never seen a Tesla boi be even close to as good a driver as the average car guy, and even then 😂 I guess you don’t have to worry too much about driving skill when the car can almost drive itself & you have like 100 different systems aiding you in driving. I love passing these blacked out Tesla bois on curves in a Corolla 😂 it’s like I’m just driving along and if I pass these Tesla bois they get so butt hurt and hit it and have to just show off their whinny motors and be the fastest on a straight away, until a corner comes up and you see them slam the brakes and my humble Corolla (with all trac control and VSC turned off) passes them on the curve insanely fast, and then I see them on the rear view mirror coming out the curve hitting it again to catch up and pass me again until the next curve comes up. Sure I’m not going to deny that people with combustion cars don’t do this, oh hell yes they do, but there’s just something about the blacked out Tesla bois with their shop modded body kits that makes them so mad about the fact that someone driving a Corolla is a better driver than them 😂
@@matthew_natividad maybe because the company too focus on fossil fuels and the reneawable fuels is not interested btw you can see F1 & Porsche, Lamborghini, etc are developing synthetic fuel hopefully it will save our beloved boom engine
As we know it, yes. It will be limited to cosmetic and suspension mods. The kind of person that embraces this won’t resemble most of the people who make up the culture today. Which the culture today pretty much pure trash as is.
Because they're electric cars. They need to be as aerodynamic as possible to get more range out of them. Thats why EVs in general look like crap. Even electric hypercars look way worse than their gas counterparts.
there will always be the body mods, everything else is going to be tesla swaps which will be "cool" for all of a year or two then get as boring as a Ls swap. The few who have the electrical engineering knowledge will build their own stuff but that will be a few folks. While climate change is a real thing and is affecting us - there is literally no way to actually slow it down or stop it and thus the governments would rather blame the populace for the issue and then restrict them, when the issues are industrial/government/military/agriculture - all generally exempt from proposed climate actions.
Great topic. I will be all for it. Here in South Africa, they cannot make enough power for our houses. Just to keep my beers cold is traumatic. Can't see it happening here in the next 100 years. Great video. 👍
Craig, love your reality check on the California energy crisis. It's what everyone's been saying for years! California's ideas are so good, they must be mandatory! When are you going to run for governor?
My issue with EV's is the restrictions they put on the consumer. You can't fix them unless you're qualified. Software restrictions. Price of battery, and motor replacements. Since you can't fix them, and batteries have a lifetime which means it'll be super expensive to keep them on the road. So now you have to buy a new car every 10-15 years or just some shitty car sharing program run by some corporation. Hell I won't be surprised if todays Gas Stations turn into these car sharing, charge parking areas. There'll still be Model T's chugging along while a 2040 Toyota went to a recyclying facility in 2065.
Electric cars are insanity. No better than fuel burning cars. Mining for battery material, all the plastics in ECs, disposal of toxic batteries. Craig mentioned power grid issues, yes, that’s everywhere. Waiting for cars to charge...... I live in Canada. Batteries don’t work well in the cold. There’s a video going around right now of a guy who couldn’t even charge his Tesla cause it was too cold. If you want an electric car, fine, but don’t force people to switch if they don’t want to.
Visual mods will obviously stay, as will suspension/brakes etc. I'm sure there will be certain mods available for electric cars... Like you said, ECUs didn't kill tuning when they became popular, in reality they actually made it really easy. Electric cars are pretty quick, I think a market will end up existing for enthusiasts, but many will obviously prefer ICE instead.
Aside from an EV's lack of soul, the biggest problem is infrastructure. No one is equipped to handle it. Say you work in an office building and use a large lot or parking garage during the day. Those kind of places will need major upgrades. Or you live in a condo complex. Every parking spot will need a charger and will need to be connected to the tenant/owners electric bill. Or worse, you live in a large apartment building without off street parking. How are you going to charge your car? Parking meters will have to be replaced with metered charging stations. It almost seems impossible if you think about what really has to happen for the all electric future our overlords have chosen for us peons.
Of you think electric cars have no soul what do you think about 99% of cars who don't make fart noise ? How is it boring when it can do 100× nore thand making noise ?
Love the channel!!!! I think as a small niche and limited series electric vehicles can prevail but the materials needed to produce them in mass quantity is not feasible and bad for the environment when making these batteries. We just cant make that many batteries and gasoline is safer for the environment than electric. And the fuel to get these is fuel consumption in its self 😂 or what i read in articles but, love the channel and cars Craig Lieberman!!!! Happy Tuesday or dam what day is it lol 😭
EVS are (or can be) good cars. The main problem is how the dealership made them to tie you to them for virtually any maintenance. 8:04 there were in fact three competing powertrains in the 19th century steam, electric and gasoline with gasoline dominated the automotive industry as oil companies have tremendous influences over government policies. So electric isn’t new.
I had a good laugh thank you Craig 😂😂😂😉😉😉This video represents my thoughts and those of other car enthusiasts. (sorry for the translation I don't speak English)
in a word no. People are already putting electric engines in classics. As these electric drive trains fall in price you will see electric converted civics and mustangs
Luckily I got into one of my dream cars while the market on them was at its lowest, bc as of right now, I'd be hopelessly priced out of it. One down, one to go.
Most of them look like uninspired amorphous blob. Granted its a fast amorphous blob. But I like to travel too much for it to be feasible for me currently.
I dig this dude's laugh every time he points out some ridiculous issue about the whole electric car thing,especially what the aftermarket scene could look like with electric cars. After watching this, Im glad Im 59, have an 86 Olds 442 with a vintage 68 Olds 350, an 05 Impala SS SC 3.8L with some usual bolt on stuff and a clean old 96 standard cab 2WD Chevy truck with the classic vortec 350. Im gonna try to make these the last vehicles I own. The 2020s are drag.
Gonna run and enjoy my uncomputerized bored out Chev 7.4 until they say I can’t! But what happens to value on the long run? Is it worth starting a resto these days? I went through the resto from hell recently and would like your input on the future value of blowing $ at your ride..
I 100% believe the Mustang Mach-E was specifically named to induce rage. Because even when people complain, their still talking about your car. And the more people that talk about the car, the more people hear about the car. And that's free advertising
EVs don't really please anyone You got like enthusiasts who prefer the sound of a ICE engine + know tuning is more reliable You got the regular american who still will depend on gas cars longer than the slated ban by 2050 in the US You got environmentalists who actually want trains to reclaim their prior dominance in the United States
The US should have bullet trains. So that actually makes sense. We aren''t getting rid of oil burning or gas anytime soon - the government, industry, agriculture relies too much on it and they have no emissions regulations as is - ie: planes and shipping. Military has the biggest spend in the US and no emissions regs. Government flies day in day out on private planes and choppers and all unregulated. EV's please the nerds and pseudo environmentalists who think they are helping the environment (without looking into any of the actual climate change causes).
The problem in USA is that it was redesigned around cars. If there would be real public transportation, most people would use it instead of cars, so the roads wouldn't be cramped. Currently, everyone has two options: use a car, or die. Is this a good system? No. Can we change it? Yes.
Yeah it’ll be the government that kills the hobby. In the UK they’re already trialing climate lockdowns. You’ll eventually have a carbon score here. It’s a matter of time. All the while if everyone buys an electric car we will be out of electricity sooo….it’s a lose lose lose lose lose. Stick to video games, Gran Turismo and Forza will be your racing hobby for the future 😅
Which is absured considering the government, industry and agriculture are the biggest polluters in the world not consumer vehicles. This has been proven time and time again. This is political pandering to put blame on the people and continue the divide.
Tesla Racing Channel Yes electric drag races are boring because they amount to a tire test, and the only possible gains are from weight savings, but still, to see someone go through the effort of stripping down Teslas for racing is pretty neat imo.
I saw a news story a while back about this whole electric car and charging situation that as of right now, the resources needed To provide electric cars and charging stations etc. The resources we would need To make it happens we dont have enough for that. All the mines and places where are knlwm To have resources needed, that amount is not enough To make it happen at the moment.
I still think the car isnt the issue... its the fuel thats the issue. i would spend all that investments and energy into making a bio fuel rather than making everyone drive electric cars
Those that choose EV's are unlikely to be interested in (or capable of) tinkering with them as do owners of liquid fueled cars. I will never have an EV as they hold absolutely no interest for me, but I do like traditionally fueled vehicles (good thing really, as I was a motorcycle mechanic!).
Until they make it unlawful to own, then all you primitive combustion idiots are shit out of luck. It's the way of evolution, even the electric car community is still in it's primitive stages. But combustion? Let me guess, most of you ONLY have a high school education.
I think they will start to make "fun" electric cars. Tesla probably won't because in reality, they're a Software company. Once some of the more traditional makers really get stuck in, there will be more enthusiast cars but they will still lack that analogue mechanical sound and feel. For that, we will have our older enthusiast cars. That's where the aftermarket comes in. Supporting these cars. People will still want to enjoy V8 Muscle Cars, JDM Turbo cars and euro classics. They will just feel even more special amongst the sea of electric SUVs. The fact that owners of these classic cars aren't expanding their carbon footprint buying new cars and sending old cars to the crusher, means they are doing their bit for the environment too!
@@JohnSmith-yl8sg Hyundai already said they will never be making the Delorean looking one for production which is a real shame as it was Hydrogen/Electric. Tesla is a SaaS company and will continue to follow in the stupidity of Silicon Valley business practices which are designed to extract as much capital from consumers as possible. We will be getting different cars from the companies for sure but in the end they will all be the same underneath and not very moddable.
I think the one thing your conclusion is missing is that before you grab these cars, figure out how to enjoy them off the road. They will probably become the horse, hot air balloon and sailboat of the future - things people enjoy off the mainstream and not as transportation. We'll be towing them to Thunderhill behind an electric-ish something or other. So if you're looking to buy an FD or Viper expecting to be one of the few people driving internal combustion in a sea of trolleybuses, I think that's a mistake. One practical reason I can see for that not being allowed is that even current electric cars have sufficient automation to mandate fully auto-piloted highways where we'll be able to commute at 200mph safely bumper to bumper. But if you introduce even one manually driven car into that equation, it won't work.
For the infrastructure same applies to the european market. Government wants people to switch to EVs despite the fact energy grid can't handle such load. Moreover, some countries produce power mainly from coal (such as Poland, where is no [hated by greens] nuclear energy and most of the power comes from coal) so EVs aren't that green anyway.
Well if you do your research on electric power vehicles they were out first before internal combustion engines but internal combustion engines became more popular because they were more practical at the time
If governments around the world really wanted to switch for the purpose of the environment , then … why not make Fossil-free biodiesel a cheaper fuel for existing cars, which works on almost all modern diesel cars. Up to 90% less CO2, and no energy is required to manufacture new cars nor batteries… and no need to take a loan for buying a new car, upgrading your home outlet etc.
Because that would require them to actually do something and think. They see EV's and are like well this is a simple step we can do despite it not being a greener step at all. It's basically political pandering because they know they can't actually do anything.
I'm still Gathering tools and car parts, from building the ultimate sleeper which would be a 2000 Suzuki Swift four-door sedan with a Suzuki 2.3 Arrow Engine in a manual gearbox and limited slip differential out of a Suzuki GTI, to turning my 1992 Mazda MX3 GS into a compact v8-powered all-wheel-drive sports car. I even figured some crazy or ideas of building a 60 Mi per gallon 94 Mazda Protege using the engine from a Ford Festiva which is basically a Mazda 121 and a gearbox out of a Ford Contour 2.0. I was inspired by all these Apocalypse movies and thought of an idea fitting a 3-cylinder Geo Metro engine into a 4 x 4 Geo Tracker. The idea would be to have just what you need, if gas ever got up to 20 bucks a gallon, a three-cylinder four-by-four would be very useful verses that wonderful V6 with all its power you have in your garage right now. Just getting the finances to build this too, the last thing I'd want is the government getting in the way. Did you guys know I'm planning on moving to Florida or some other smog-free state from here in California. Specifically because of smog inspection. All my cars run good but it is ridiculous that I get taxed every two years to go smog my car, in the hopes that it doesn't pass and I got a shell out a grand to fix whatever is wrong with it. In Nevada a catalytic converter might go for a hundred bucks, overhearing United States it goes for 400 same thing it just has a California seal engraved on it. Bunch of nonsense. It is and the same thing goes for these electric cars, if I ever buy one, it's literally going to be used as an appliance. My 1992 MX3 with its 1.8 L dual overhead cam k8v 6, sounds wonderful when it starts getting to about 4500 RPMs to 7000. And the car with its 2400 lb weight hold store, holds the road like it's glued to it. I bet there's many of us who have some crazy project car whether it's the ecomod a 50 mile per gallon car or build a 500 horsepower car. We don't need the government stepping in the way. That's why we don't have jetpacks or flying cars!
LOL. I read an article from a 100 years ago and the author was raging against automobiles. He said they would NEVER replace the horse drawn carriage. The automobiles are boring and impractical. He was wrong.
Lamest thing ever? That "Daytona Concept" thing's "engine sound"...it's like fake pumped in engine sound on pumpkin spice 'roids...I'm keeping my GT-R forever. lol
Don't let this video distract you from the fact that hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that he just went into Harry's and bought three t66 turbos with nos and a motec exhaust system
They are OK , im just annoyed thar the government pushes them on the population.
They can push him on the population and since they're not enthusiasts and don't need a sports car. Just don't push evs on the people who are enthusiasts.
@@nitepatrol1873 How are they pushing them on you?
@@chapman6953 uhh some shit called they want combustion engines not available to purchase in 10 years? Hello????
@@nitepatrol1873 It'll become unlawful when regulations make it too expensive to own the permits and taxes to own a combustion engine. I swear, it's like the car community is a special brand of stupid.
@@chapman6953 by literally outlawing the sale of new gas engine cars... and vilifying them. Was that a serious question? wow
I think it’s safe to say I was born into the wrong era of cars
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You and me both
Me too. I felt mixed between the wrong era & the right era.
pretty sure the reason i havent got a liesence is beacuse this era puts me off
@@cburton99 sad but true
I loved the blatant political incorrect language in this video, and totally agree with what you are saying. Even here in Australia, they are pushing the electric car agenda, but the infrastructure isn't the best for long drives yet. I'll keep my petrol car for now, and have a Hybrid Toyota for my wife, mainly for fuel savings. Great Video. 👍
Owning evs will always be a hell scape in Australia
@@GTSW1FT most definitely
@@jaykay78666 OH GOD EV MOTORBIKES, like my cbr500r can just hit 300km and thats if I ride like a grandma. A ev motorbike will struggle to go cross country
Always wanted to know not trying to make u sad cuz even as an American I love HSV/Holden cuz they did not make an EV so the government ended it?
As an Australian. I will always buy second hand well kept Holden or Ford Aussie made cars 9.5 times outta 10.
Probably, I don’t mind this as an alternative. But I hate them as a mandated replacement pushed by politicians that don’t know what they’re talking about and just want to pretend they care about the environment.
F’n nailed that! Bunch of talking heads saying “buzz” words that everyone wants to hear and can’t produce nuttin worth while
@WhatTheHellsAGigawat Exactly!
Suprised to see you here, how ever late I am. I wonder if I'm regular enough on your channel to be recognized?
Exactly
@@RyuusanFT86 lol same im surprised
I enjoy his videos, he's honest and straight to the point. He cares about us car ppl and our hobbies
When these car companies try and force everyone into electric they're in for a very rude awakening. Their sales will be dismal and the majority of people will reject them and unless govt hands them out most people can't afford them anyways.
This depresses me. Honestly an electric car with no sound, no manual transmission, no gears is just the most boring thing in the world to drive. It's fine for like busses and garbage trucks and stuff like that, but cars directed towards enthusiasts it's horrible.
I approve that microwave oven analogy
Provided there’s still a hobby for us to even get into
@you I guess hahah
@@ACommenterOnRUclips not all hobbies obviously, just the carrelated hobby
This is very reasonable question. I actually was thinking the same for me. If they go too mass and the gasoline cars disappear, I will definitely lose the interest in cars.
That's a fair point. Things are changing and shifting. Electric cars are technically superior to combustion engines. I'm a physics teacher and I let my students think and analyze why they're superior. I really start to like some EV models on how they look, like the VW ID models, the Cupra. I think modifying cars will forever be there, just different. In that sentence, the hobby will remain to exist. We simply have to adapt.
Note: haven't watched the video yet, I'll save that for later. I reacted right out of the gate.
@@PostTraumaticChessDisorder Completely agree. But this "adaptation" to the new technologies can't be sure will they bring us true pleasure of it, or just something we have to do, to make our lives easier. I hope you are right. We all know the World, the people in general are making progression every day, every minute to make our lives better, easier, but you know there are some "excuses". I mean about the propaganda, who is trying to explain something to us that is better, but actually is not, not even closer. This is the worst of all. For example what I remember now is the CEO of a famous japanese car brand ( I think was Nissan ) said that the electric cars are making much more damage to the nature, than the gasoline ones,and they think to limit or stop produce them for now. Thanks for the answer. :)
@@PostTraumaticChessDisorder technically superior doesn't mean more interesting, never meant it. Like with movies, look how great movies nowadays are made, and still, objectively, movies get worse and more boring over the years.
The very same argument was used when horse and buggy was still king of the roads. People laughed when people said gas cars would be the future.
Craig, I can’t believe you don’t have a shirt in the merch store that says
“2JZ engine No Sh!t” 🤣
They're annoying and the people that drive them are more annoying.
Amen.
I think the scary thing about all this is... how much will gasoline cost as we inch closer to this transition to electric? And even more to consider.. how much are they going to charge you to charge your electric car once gasoline is phased out?
They will charge you per mile or just a high tax when you get tags.
Lmao clever joke charge for the charge
New rules and regulations from State/Fed Govt will eventually destroy the Car Hobby.
Why don't we just rebel and start an uprising against this tyrannical country, we can just take back our freedom, just don't give those feds anything.
Shit look at Canada n Australia
@@streetwatcher_ So you are saying that the car channels that coming from Australia are all fake like the US moon landing in the 60l's ?
@@streetwatcher_ WTF? Where does this come from? Australia has a huge aftermarket industry and modified car scene. Old school and new school V8, Turbo and rotary stuff everywhere. Check out Summernats for an idea.
@@jamestoby2552 - Not for long, buddy.
The fact that an electric car having to sit and wait 10-30+ mins to charge while it takes 10-30 seconds to pump fuel into a gas power car is just the first of many reasons why I’m 100% not in favour of these things. Plus how the companies can just “update” the car to possibly make it worst and having to get a new one? Hell nah to that BS.
Your Special Olympics comment is the best take on electric cars I've heard!!!
Suv is for people who have family , a week-end family road trip and all that . When they are working they are not together in a suv when they are not working and they want to go out they go in a suv.
Not only would I look for a vehicle that can run longer than my bladder capacity time, I will be looking for a refill/recharge time less than my bladder empty time. I don't see EV's meeting that second requirement anytime soon. Great content, I appreciate your channel.
not even ICE refills faster than my bladder empties
So how often do you drive more than 200 miles in a day?
@@bobroberts2371 It does not matter if I drive more than 200 miles every day, or once a year. If the vehicle does not meet my needs on a daily basis, or once a year, it still does not meet my needs.
@@cory45x You have personal knowledge of how long it takes Immigration and Customs Enforcement to respond? How close to the border are you? Do you cross often?
@@smal1393 Internal Combustion Engine ICE you potato
Um ACKTCHUALLY, I'm offended when you talk about Teslas! :) You're right. It's basically an appliance. EV will never replace a perfect heel-toe downshift and hitting the apex. I have a MYP, and I will have a similar smile driving another 90 Celica GT-S again. ...but someone in my neighborhood has a Roush Mustang that wakes up the entire neighborhood every morning. I could live without that.
A sane Teslaowner. Wtf
I’d say yes cause all you can do is customize the outside
We love you Craig. Please never change
Some cities are already overloading their power grids because of the rapid influx of electric cars. The infrastructure cannot handle it.
EV’s will be the beginning of the end of car enthusiast.
No. Real car enthusiasts will adapt. The posers will die off.
@@89five3five you want me to adapt do a soulless appliance that will only last 95k miles that also has no tuning potential, takes turns like a boat, and has 0 soul at all?
I'll stick to my V8s until the end of time thank you very much.
Thank you!!! I've been saying for years SUVs are rediculious. Not needed for most people. When I was a kid we either had minivans or sedans.
I would say an SUV fits the roll of minivan better these days. There is a reason you barely see them around these days. Sedans just mean 4 door car - that hasn't gone away at all.
@@corail53 True!
Thank you so so so much Craig sir for all the memories and love and knowledge you have given to me and all the true fast and the furious lovers around the world and no matter what anyone says The Fast and The furious will always be my favorite . God Bless you Craig
I laughted way too hard at that Tesla intro 🤣🤣
Imagine the next Fast/Furious film with all EV's, the sound crew won't even have a job.
Yes. Modifications will be paint and body kits wheels and suspension.
But no other mods? Anything to make it faster, handle differently etc? I think a lot of the fun of modifying a car is changing not just the external looks but the internal components.
If I wanted to buy a power wheel I would go to Walmart 😅😅
I like what Porsche is doing with syn fuel research and koenigsegg did with the free valve motor. I don’t think gas is entirely dead. But it will take some very clever minds. I don’t want electric. I personally like the smell of exhaust fumes and gasoline, not so much axle oil. That stuff stinks! I love race cars and motor sports in general. I’ve finally got money to build a kind of fast fun great handling car and I’m going to do it!! Should be around 450/500 wheel hp after motor is built. Weighs around 3300 lbs and has 51/49 weight balance. Should do 0-60 in low 4’s high 3 second range and handle like it’s on rails! Do the quarter in around high 11’s low 12’s but it’s not meant for drag or dig races. She’s meant to handle and out run other cars! Not just a one truck pony!
1:47 - GEN-X - Same with us... Maybe we'd have said "GaaaAAAAYYYYYY!" instead, but the sentiment was equally thick skinned.
I'll keep driving gas powered vehicles till gas is unobtainable.
The electric car movement will fail for many reasons so I welcome them to push it as hard and as fast as possible
God, I hope so. I hope they fail.
@@JohnSmith-yl8sg Electric is much worse for the environment. The toxic batteries, randomly combusting and burning for hours, the mining for resources is much more damaging than a gas pipeline, takes more carbon to create electric cars, not enough charging stations/spend more time charging then driving. We literally don't have the electrical grid for it. When these car companies try and force everyone into electric they're in for a very rude awakening. Their sales will be dismal and the majority of people will reject them and unless govt hands them out most people can't afford them anyways.
@@Clubloosedriftguy - Yeah man, I know
@@Clubloosedriftguy - I've studied up on it too. I know all the stuff you listed already. I agree.
LOL.
when cars first came on the scene. People laughed and said they would never replace the horse drawn wagon.
EVs will kill WRC, and most motorports in general. In Rally, you have a lot of crashes, and sometimes fires. How would you react to a lithium fire, which have already ignited half of the course on fire?
Gas cars burn up at about a 1000 to 1 ratio of EVs. The issue is EV fires burn longer. But they catch on fire way less.
EVs will kill all Motorsports
You forgot to mention the inevitable upcoming lithium supply shortages.
And the vast amount of mining that will be needed for copper, rare earth magnets, etc, etc, etc. We are still doing unregulated burning of fossil fuels to dig holes in the earth in order to make these damn things. Everyone in the arguments always seems to forget how things actually get made, consumer products we all love are horrible for the environment in manufacturing and subsequent E-waste.
@@corail53 this is why most car people prefer older cars, because they can be disassembled, toiled on, then reassembled, and it will work just as good, or even better. Electric cars have integrated batpacks, which makes them irrepairable and pretty much disposable products. Electric motors are easy to tune, but it's not the best idea.
For most people, a large part of modding cars and the joy of doing so, comes from extracting as much power as you can from the internal combustion engine, and the vast ways you could do so. Sure you have many many other mods that you can still do on electric cars: suspension, body, steering, brakes & tyres, aero, the dreaded electrical (no shit), and the rather useless aesthetic mods.
But the meat and potatoes of it really just comes down to the drivetrain, engine tranny and driveshaft components like diffs. Electric cars just lack all of that & you can’t mod an electric motor. No induction, no life (as in vibrations, sounds, shifting, etc), no nitrous, no modding motors and their components, no manual transmissions, etc.
I wholeheartedly believe that electric cars are normie crap, I 100% believe you can’t be a true car guy if you only focus on electric cars. The progress to getting you to fast 0-60s, huge horsepower, etc, is more important than the actual results. That’s why many of us bitch so much about the bought vs built debate.
To many of us, the hard work that goes into to modding cars to achieve whatever you want, is more important and worthwhile than the final product.
Electric cars are lifeless & remove the vast majority and funnest parts of modding cars.
I wouldn’t trade their performance capability over their modding capability any day for any reason. Anyone can buy a car with performance, be it combustion or electric, as a car guy, I believe the heart of it comes from fixing and building your own car.
Anyone who would happily trade that for easy power (again, be it combustion or electric) isn’t a real car person & is just showing off and being a poser.
And don’t get pedantic about “oh so now we can’t buy Ferraris and Porsches and Lamborghinis and such because that means we’re not real car guys???” That’s not what I mean and y’all know it. It’s a whole different thing when a mechanic works up to be able to finally buy his dream Ferrari than the snob who has never held a wrench in his hand buying a McLaren :|
I love seeing shitheads showing off their Teslas at car meets, many of them don’t know smack about cars beyond 0-60s and horsepower, torque? What is that? Then you talk to them and their like “yea I put this body kit and wheels and brakes on” etc and you’re like “you yourself or you sent it to a mechanic or shop to do it for you,” then they get all quiet and get mad at you and talk crap about your car. And idk, I’ve never seen a Tesla boi be even close to as good a driver as the average car guy, and even then 😂 I guess you don’t have to worry too much about driving skill when the car can almost drive itself & you have like 100 different systems aiding you in driving. I love passing these blacked out Tesla bois on curves in a Corolla 😂 it’s like I’m just driving along and if I pass these Tesla bois they get so butt hurt and hit it and have to just show off their whinny motors and be the fastest on a straight away, until a corner comes up and you see them slam the brakes and my humble Corolla (with all trac control and VSC turned off) passes them on the curve insanely fast, and then I see them on the rear view mirror coming out the curve hitting it again to catch up and pass me again until the next curve comes up. Sure I’m not going to deny that people with combustion cars don’t do this, oh hell yes they do, but there’s just something about the blacked out Tesla bois with their shop modded body kits that makes them so mad about the fact that someone driving a Corolla is a better driver than them 😂
Synthetic Fuel : allow us to introduce ourselves
And just learning to do it overall
@@aditya5474 and honestly what’s taking them so long?
@@matthew_natividad maybe because the company too focus on fossil fuels and the reneawable fuels is not interested btw you can see F1 & Porsche, Lamborghini, etc are developing synthetic fuel hopefully it will save our beloved boom engine
@@aditya5474 hopefully it won’t take to long given the time it takes Motorsport innovations to trickle down to consumers
Gotta laugh at Dodge's latest commercial touting their "powerful performance cars" as they kill them off for EV crap.
As we know it, yes. It will be limited to cosmetic and suspension mods. The kind of person that embraces this won’t resemble most of the people who make up the culture today. Which the culture today pretty much pure trash as is.
Not one electric car picture I saw in this video looked appealing. Why do they ha e to make them ugly?
Because they're electric cars. They need to be as aerodynamic as possible to get more range out of them. Thats why EVs in general look like crap.
Even electric hypercars look way worse than their gas counterparts.
nobody drives in new york. there's too much traffic
there will always be the body mods, everything else is going to be tesla swaps which will be "cool" for all of a year or two then get as boring as a Ls swap. The few who have the electrical engineering knowledge will build their own stuff but that will be a few folks. While climate change is a real thing and is affecting us - there is literally no way to actually slow it down or stop it and thus the governments would rather blame the populace for the issue and then restrict them, when the issues are industrial/government/military/agriculture - all generally exempt from proposed climate actions.
EVs are starting to destroy carculture already. Its like the ultimate NPC behaviour to be into EVs.
Great topic. I will be all for it. Here in South Africa, they cannot make enough power for our houses. Just to keep my beers cold is traumatic. Can't see it happening here in the next 100 years. Great video. 👍
Still sneaking around with my straightpiped 66 390 t bird on antique plates...
I love how blunt he is towards the things he doesnt agree with😂😂👏👏 keep on being you man
As long as you are an electrical engineer and a millionaire, it won't affect you at all!
Craig, love your reality check on the California energy crisis. It's what everyone's been saying for years! California's ideas are so good, they must be mandatory! When are you going to run for governor?
My issue with EV's is the restrictions they put on the consumer. You can't fix them unless you're qualified. Software restrictions. Price of battery, and motor replacements. Since you can't fix them, and batteries have a lifetime which means it'll be super expensive to keep them on the road. So now you have to buy a new car every 10-15 years or just some shitty car sharing program run by some corporation. Hell I won't be surprised if todays Gas Stations turn into these car sharing, charge parking areas.
There'll still be Model T's chugging along while a 2040 Toyota went to a recyclying facility in 2065.
Good video man
Electric cars are insanity. No better than fuel burning cars. Mining for battery material, all the plastics in ECs, disposal of toxic batteries. Craig mentioned power grid issues, yes, that’s everywhere. Waiting for cars to charge...... I live in Canada. Batteries don’t work well in the cold. There’s a video going around right now of a guy who couldn’t even charge his Tesla cause it was too cold. If you want an electric car, fine, but don’t force people to switch if they don’t want to.
Visual mods will obviously stay, as will suspension/brakes etc. I'm sure there will be certain mods available for electric cars... Like you said, ECUs didn't kill tuning when they became popular, in reality they actually made it really easy. Electric cars are pretty quick, I think a market will end up existing for enthusiasts, but many will obviously prefer ICE instead.
Aside from an EV's lack of soul, the biggest problem is infrastructure. No one is equipped to handle it. Say you work in an office building and use a large lot or parking garage during the day. Those kind of places will need major upgrades. Or you live in a condo complex. Every parking spot will need a charger and will need to be connected to the tenant/owners electric bill. Or worse, you live in a large apartment building without off street parking. How are you going to charge your car? Parking meters will have to be replaced with metered charging stations. It almost seems impossible if you think about what really has to happen for the all electric future our overlords have chosen for us peons.
Fuck the goddamned overlords.
Of you think electric cars have no soul what do you think about 99% of cars who don't make fart noise ? How is it boring when it can do 100× nore thand making noise ?
100% of the uprising electric usage is electric cars ?
Love the channel!!!! I think as a small niche and limited series electric vehicles can prevail but the materials needed to produce them in mass quantity is not feasible and bad for the environment when making these batteries. We just cant make that many batteries and gasoline is safer for the environment than electric. And the fuel to get these is fuel consumption in its self 😂 or what i read in articles but, love the channel and cars Craig Lieberman!!!! Happy Tuesday or dam what day is it lol 😭
Not if you don't listen and just keep you ice
EVS are (or can be) good cars. The main problem is how the dealership made them to tie you to them for virtually any maintenance. 8:04 there were in fact three competing powertrains in the 19th century steam, electric and gasoline with gasoline dominated the automotive industry as oil companies have tremendous influences over government policies. So electric isn’t new.
I had a good laugh thank you Craig 😂😂😂😉😉😉This video represents my thoughts and those of other car enthusiasts. (sorry for the translation I don't speak English)
in a word no. People are already putting electric engines in classics. As these electric drive trains fall in price you will see electric converted civics and mustangs
So you proved his point, electrics are killing car culture
Luckily I got into one of my dream cars while the market on them was at its lowest, bc as of right now, I'd be hopelessly priced out of it. One down, one to go.
I was confused too when I seen that SUV Mustang Pulling up next to me at the light
Most of them look like uninspired amorphous blob. Granted its a fast amorphous blob. But I like to travel too much for it to be feasible for me currently.
The ad before this video “Mercedes Benz is going electric” SKIP 💀
I dig this dude's laugh every time he points out some ridiculous issue about the whole electric car thing,especially what the aftermarket scene could look like with electric cars. After watching this, Im glad Im 59, have an 86 Olds 442 with a vintage 68 Olds 350, an 05 Impala SS SC 3.8L with some usual bolt on stuff and a clean old 96 standard cab 2WD Chevy truck with the classic vortec 350. Im gonna try to make these the last vehicles I own. The 2020s are drag.
Craig: "why do people even drive suvs"
Me: ............because I'm fat and tall 😔
Gonna run and enjoy my uncomputerized bored out Chev 7.4 until they say I can’t! But what happens to value on the long run? Is it worth starting a resto these days? I went through the resto from hell recently and would like your input on the future value of blowing $ at your ride..
I 100% believe the Mustang Mach-E was specifically named to induce rage.
Because even when people complain, their still talking about your car. And the more people that talk about the car, the more people hear about the car.
And that's free advertising
Thats Teslas main business model.
EVs don't really please anyone
You got like enthusiasts who prefer the sound of a ICE engine + know tuning is more reliable
You got the regular american who still will depend on gas cars longer than the slated ban by 2050 in the US
You got environmentalists who actually want trains to reclaim their prior dominance in the United States
The US should have bullet trains. So that actually makes sense. We aren''t getting rid of oil burning or gas anytime soon - the government, industry, agriculture relies too much on it and they have no emissions regulations as is - ie: planes and shipping. Military has the biggest spend in the US and no emissions regs. Government flies day in day out on private planes and choppers and all unregulated. EV's please the nerds and pseudo environmentalists who think they are helping the environment (without looking into any of the actual climate change causes).
The problem in USA is that it was redesigned around cars. If there would be real public transportation, most people would use it instead of cars, so the roads wouldn't be cramped. Currently, everyone has two options: use a car, or die. Is this a good system? No. Can we change it? Yes.
This is the video that should be played at a government meeting.. all over the world.. everyone should see this..
Nailed it couldn't agree more 👍
Yeah it’ll be the government that kills the hobby. In the UK they’re already trialing climate lockdowns. You’ll eventually have a carbon score here. It’s a matter of time. All the while if everyone buys an electric car we will be out of electricity sooo….it’s a lose lose lose lose lose. Stick to video games, Gran Turismo and Forza will be your racing hobby for the future 😅
you can always make more oil. cant make more electricity
@@cory45x lol right!?
Which is absured considering the government, industry and agriculture are the biggest polluters in the world not consumer vehicles. This has been proven time and time again. This is political pandering to put blame on the people and continue the divide.
Tesla Racing Channel
Yes electric drag races are boring because they amount to a tire test, and the only possible gains are from weight savings, but still, to see someone go through the effort of stripping down Teslas for racing is pretty neat imo.
I saw a news story a while back about this whole electric car and charging situation that as of right now, the resources needed To provide electric cars and charging stations etc. The resources we would need To make it happens we dont have enough for that. All the mines and places where are knlwm To have resources needed, that amount is not enough To make it happen at the moment.
I still think the car isnt the issue... its the fuel thats the issue. i would spend all that investments and energy into making a bio fuel rather than making everyone drive electric cars
16.15.and how long do the battery's last when you charge them from half empty.?.
Those that choose EV's are unlikely to be interested in (or capable of) tinkering with them as do owners of liquid fueled cars.
I will never have an EV as they hold absolutely no interest for me, but I do like traditionally fueled vehicles (good thing really, as I was a motorcycle mechanic!).
Until they make it unlawful to own, then all you primitive combustion idiots are shit out of luck. It's the way of evolution, even the electric car community is still in it's primitive stages. But combustion? Let me guess, most of you ONLY have a high school education.
I think they will start to make "fun" electric cars. Tesla probably won't because in reality, they're a Software company. Once some of the more traditional makers really get stuck in, there will be more enthusiast cars but they will still lack that analogue mechanical sound and feel.
For that, we will have our older enthusiast cars. That's where the aftermarket comes in. Supporting these cars. People will still want to enjoy V8 Muscle Cars, JDM Turbo cars and euro classics. They will just feel even more special amongst the sea of electric SUVs. The fact that owners of these classic cars aren't expanding their carbon footprint buying new cars and sending old cars to the crusher, means they are doing their bit for the environment too!
Hyundai is already trying to do that. With their new Hyundai DeLorean, and that Hyundai Audi lookin' thing.
@@JohnSmith-yl8sg Hyundai already said they will never be making the Delorean looking one for production which is a real shame as it was Hydrogen/Electric. Tesla is a SaaS company and will continue to follow in the stupidity of Silicon Valley business practices which are designed to extract as much capital from consumers as possible. We will be getting different cars from the companies for sure but in the end they will all be the same underneath and not very moddable.
An electric car is just not what I personally want so no matter how "good" they get I will never buy one
1 minute and 46 seconds in and I already had to click the subscribe button
Can see a lot of people selling kits to convert older classics to electric
I think the one thing your conclusion is missing is that before you grab these cars, figure out how to enjoy them off the road. They will probably become the horse, hot air balloon and sailboat of the future - things people enjoy off the mainstream and not as transportation. We'll be towing them to Thunderhill behind an electric-ish something or other. So if you're looking to buy an FD or Viper expecting to be one of the few people driving internal combustion in a sea of trolleybuses, I think that's a mistake. One practical reason I can see for that not being allowed is that even current electric cars have sufficient automation to mandate fully auto-piloted highways where we'll be able to commute at 200mph safely bumper to bumper. But if you introduce even one manually driven car into that equation, it won't work.
I doubt they'll stick. Nickel and cobalt mining is pretty gross. It just pushes emissions up the value stream.
Thanks Pops
What about JDM hybrid cars?
For the infrastructure same applies to the european market. Government wants people to switch to EVs despite the fact energy grid can't handle such load. Moreover, some countries produce power mainly from coal (such as Poland, where is no [hated by greens] nuclear energy and most of the power comes from coal) so EVs aren't that green anyway.
Well if you do your research on electric power vehicles they were out first before internal combustion engines but internal combustion engines became more popular because they were more practical at the time
And still are.
@@mishokahin of course but at the time gas was more convenient, that's what I was talking about and cheap
I already have a 40k mile supra 6 speed turbo. Now to get that GTR. 2015+
If governments around the world really wanted to switch for the purpose of the environment , then … why not make Fossil-free biodiesel a cheaper fuel for existing cars, which works on almost all modern diesel cars. Up to 90% less CO2, and no energy is required to manufacture new cars nor batteries… and no need to take a loan for buying a new car, upgrading your home outlet etc.
(Goes for farm equipment, trucks, semi etc as well )
Because that would require them to actually do something and think. They see EV's and are like well this is a simple step we can do despite it not being a greener step at all. It's basically political pandering because they know they can't actually do anything.
I'm still Gathering tools and car parts, from building the ultimate sleeper which would be a 2000 Suzuki Swift four-door sedan with a Suzuki 2.3 Arrow Engine in a manual gearbox and limited slip differential out of a Suzuki GTI, to turning my 1992 Mazda MX3 GS into a compact v8-powered all-wheel-drive sports car. I even figured some crazy or ideas of building a 60 Mi per gallon 94 Mazda Protege using the engine from a Ford Festiva which is basically a Mazda 121 and a gearbox out of a Ford Contour 2.0. I was inspired by all these Apocalypse movies and thought of an idea fitting a 3-cylinder Geo Metro engine into a 4 x 4 Geo Tracker. The idea would be to have just what you need, if gas ever got up to 20 bucks a gallon, a three-cylinder four-by-four would be very useful verses that wonderful V6 with all its power you have in your garage right now. Just getting the finances to build this too, the last thing I'd want is the government getting in the way. Did you guys know I'm planning on moving to Florida or some other smog-free state from here in California. Specifically because of smog inspection. All my cars run good but it is ridiculous that I get taxed every two years to go smog my car, in the hopes that it doesn't pass and I got a shell out a grand to fix whatever is wrong with it. In Nevada a catalytic converter might go for a hundred bucks, overhearing United States it goes for 400 same thing it just has a California seal engraved on it. Bunch of nonsense. It is and the same thing goes for these electric cars, if I ever buy one, it's literally going to be used as an appliance. My 1992 MX3 with its 1.8 L dual overhead cam k8v 6, sounds wonderful when it starts getting to about 4500 RPMs to 7000. And the car with its 2400 lb weight hold store, holds the road like it's glued to it. I bet there's many of us who have some crazy project car whether it's the ecomod a 50 mile per gallon car or build a 500 horsepower car. We don't need the government stepping in the way. That's why we don't have jetpacks or flying cars!
The mini n mid size SUV is the modern day station wagon .. unless it's a full size then it kinda has a purpose
What do you feel synthetic gas will play a row on this all electric goal?
Your bladder lasts 400 miles? That's 6-7 hours. Are you sure about that? Why do you like torturing yourself?
That electric Charger looks like a '68 that got promoted at work and couldn't make it to the gym anymore.
Can't stand them, I'll always be a petrol head.
LOL. I read an article from a 100 years ago and the author was raging against automobiles. He said they would NEVER replace the horse drawn carriage. The automobiles are boring and impractical.
He was wrong.
I would get one as a A-B /shopping hauler but really going to miss the noise and the feeling
Lamest thing ever? That "Daytona Concept" thing's "engine sound"...it's like fake pumped in engine sound on pumpkin spice 'roids...I'm keeping my GT-R forever. lol
Don't let this video distract you from the fact that hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that he just went into Harry's and bought three t66 turbos with nos and a motec exhaust system
Don't you think that its possible that motor and battery upgrades for a 2020 tesla might become cheaper as aftermarkets enter the scene?
Nope, that wont happen. Nobody cares about modding EVs.
"Till the day I die.. give me a GT-R!"
Everything can’t go electric. We need major infrastructure changes to support billions of electric cars.