The DUMBEST CONTROVERSY of Rex Ryan's COACHING CAREER | 2012 Jets

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  • @chrisp679
    @chrisp679 2 года назад +39

    That 2011 season turned on one play for the Jets.
    The defensive lapse that allowed Victor Cruz to outrun the secondary and take what was a short out pattern for a 99 yard touchdown.
    That play alone basically propelled the Giants into their Super Bowl run and killed Rex Ryan’s career with the Jets. They were never the same after this.

  • @greggoodfellow8630
    @greggoodfellow8630 2 года назад +55

    You left out the part that Stephen Hill played in a triple option offense at GT which is going to limit any receivers production. Same thing was said about Demaryius Thomas who was extremely similar to Hill.

    • @miamimercenary9623
      @miamimercenary9623 2 года назад

      but he wasn’t good, Thomas was. not remotely the same thing

    • @teen_laqueefa
      @teen_laqueefa 2 года назад +1

      @@miamimercenary9623 had he went to a good team, he would look better

    • @Merricat_likesu
      @Merricat_likesu 2 года назад +8

      @@miamimercenary9623 as nfl players? Yeah totally different but as prospects? Pretty damn similar guys.

    • @kennethmulvena398
      @kennethmulvena398 2 года назад +4

      Stephen Hill could do everything right for a receiver except catch the ball, which is a big flaw

    • @charlesglass3004
      @charlesglass3004 2 года назад +5

      @Ryan Wilson Calvin just barely missed the triple option era at gt

  • @edwardkelly3280
    @edwardkelly3280 2 года назад +15

    Hill came from a flexbone offense in college,when most of the time is spent run blocking and when they do catch it really deep routes so the offense gets explosive passing plays

  • @TheAlfrulz
    @TheAlfrulz 2 года назад +5

    I remember part of the talk behind the Jets being pleased with the pick was because who he was following in college. Stephen Hill came from a run oriented triple option offense at Georgia Tech. A few years before Hill, the primary Yellow Jackets receiver was Calvin Johnson, who by 2012 had already established himself as one of the best at his position. They even had similar builds, Johnson's 6'5" 235lbs to Hill's 6'4" 215lbs.

  • @joshuarayborn
    @joshuarayborn 2 года назад +10

    Well, he wasn’t wrong.

  • @matthewblackburn4955
    @matthewblackburn4955 2 года назад +6

    Rex's dumbest move ever was when he put Sanchez back in in a pre season game against the giants behind a 3rd string line just to win damn snoopy trophy...shoulda been fired on the spot with that move

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 2 года назад

      Was that the game where Wayne Hunter was getting beat for three sacks (which somehow became a national story on ESPN) and he was traded for first round bust Jason Smith the next day?

  • @eduardopena5893
    @eduardopena5893 2 года назад +2

    It may have been dumb by certain metrics, but he was absolutely correct on his assessment and I don't think he was joking. I think that was some PR department and management telling him he needed to save face for the organization or lose his job.
    You got Rex's honest take, not some PR feel good soundbite.

  • @SloanJordan
    @SloanJordan 2 года назад +7

    Being from SC and a diehard jets fan, I remember going into the season, Alshon Jeffery was a preseason top 10 pick and considered the best wideout in the draft. When he fell to the 2nd round and the jets traded up, I remember being so hyped and fingers crossed it would be Jeffery and not Hill. Being a jets fan you’re used to draft burns, but damn that one hurt

    • @jeffrey7737
      @jeffrey7737 2 года назад

      He was considered top 10 WR not top 10 pick

    • @SloanJordan
      @SloanJordan 2 года назад

      @@jeffrey7737 false sir but ok. Bleacher Report and Walter Football both had him going top 10 as the first wideout off the board before that season. But go off.

  • @chadwickwhite6107
    @chadwickwhite6107 2 года назад +4

    Well CONSIDERING that the New York Jets ALWAYS HAVE BEEN and ALWAYS WILL be WELL BELOW a 39.6 and should DEFINITELY SPIKE the FOOTBALL into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play, THIS DOESN'T SURPRISE me at ALL.

  • @footwork216
    @footwork216 2 года назад +11

    Hill was definitely a bust, and it seems like pretty much everybody the Jets take in the 2nd round (especially receivers) turn out that way, but if it were up to Rex, he would draft defense with every single pick.
    Hell, he would be happy to field an entire roster of defensive players and let some of them play offense. It's just who Rex is...

    • @adriankendrick4281
      @adriankendrick4281 2 года назад +2

      Yep he is defense all the way.

    • @jamesteegardner2273
      @jamesteegardner2273 2 года назад +1

      And yet we NEVER had a legit pass rusher in all of Rex's years as coach.

    • @footwork216
      @footwork216 2 года назад

      I never said they would be "good" defensive players. If you look at the guys Rex drafted high when he was there, most of those guys were fairly disappointing, and then there was Gholston, who was outrageously disappointing...

    • @jamesteegardner2273
      @jamesteegardner2273 2 года назад

      @@footwork216 Gholston wasn't a Rex Ryan draft pick. That blunder was all Eric Mangini's fault. Because of Gholston's exceptional performance at the NFL combine, Mangini was terrified that the Pat's would trade up and take him before the Jets were on the clock at pick number 6 in the 1st round of the draft that year.
      Rex is actually on record saying that he wouldn't have taken Gholston and he especially wouldn't try to convert him to an outside linebacker in a complicated 3-4 defensive scheme like how Mangini did. All Gholston knew from college was defensive end, and if memory serves he got all of his sacks from his last year in college against only 1 or 2 teams. So he wasn't a consistent player even in college, and he only got sacks playing against 1 or 2 different offensive tackles who obviously weren't NFL caliber while he was still in college. And that's what Mangini fell in love with! Rex put him at D-end at just let him rush the passer, and even then Gholston still sucked and I'm pretty sure that he never even got 1 sack in the NFL!

    • @footwork216
      @footwork216 2 года назад

      Yup, you're right. Gholston was drafted in '08, the year before Rex arrived, so that one's not on Rex, who as you said, couldn't even turn him into a pure edge rusher.
      He got a few sacks against Jake Long (#1 overall pick in '08) in the 2007 Michigan - OSU game and it shot him all the way up in the draft despite not really having done much else at OSU to speak of.
      He did indeed finish his NFL career without a sack.
      What I remember most about that draft is there were 5 guys at the top of that draft who were considered head and shoulders above everyone else and they all went 1 through 5, the Jets, naturally, as if it were spoken by the Gods, picked 6th. Mainly because they won their season finale against KC and knocked themselves out of better draft position.
      From what I recall, they were hoping Darren McFadden would fall to them. Didn't happen, but his NFL career wasn't all that spectacular either.

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 2 года назад +4

    I had questions about Hill's hands coming out of Georgia Tech and I wasn't alone there. If he played in a more conventional offense there (he played in Paul Johnson's naturally rush-heavy triple option scheme), he could've had better overall numbers. Then again, the late DeMaryius Thomas played part of his career in the triple option at Georgia Tech and still played well enough to be a 1st-round pick.

  • @kevinlandon7578
    @kevinlandon7578 2 года назад +7

    Rex Ryan comes by his mouth honestly as the son of Buddy Ryan, who was not known for keeping his opinions to himself.

    • @eugenedenbrook322
      @eugenedenbrook322 2 года назад +1

      I hear you. I will, however, always respect Buddy as a Marine and veteran of the Korean War.

  • @mkepioneet
    @mkepioneet 2 года назад +5

    0:58 oh boy Locker's stat line. That's a rating of 11.81 which...you know the rest

  • @dangeiger9796
    @dangeiger9796 2 года назад +4

    Bobby Wagner was the 47th pick, imagine if they picked him instead

  • @giobbistar21
    @giobbistar21 2 года назад +4

    I wanted Alshon Jeffery so badly. The Hill pick was baffling especially since Hill came from a run first offense. That being said, Ryan is an idiot for what he said. Him, Tony Sparano’s offense, and our atrocious QB play probably killed him.

  • @martianfromjupiter3
    @martianfromjupiter3 2 года назад +3

    I barely won the "name a 2011 Jaguars receiver challenge" since Mike Sims-Walker played 2 games for them that season

    • @teen_laqueefa
      @teen_laqueefa 2 года назад

      You did better than I did, can't name a single one

    • @johnny__topside
      @johnny__topside 2 года назад +1

      Was Mike Thomas on the Jaguars at that time? Because if not, I would’ve only gotten Sims-Walker

    • @martianfromjupiter3
      @martianfromjupiter3 2 года назад +3

      @@johnny__topside Yes, Michael Thomas, Chastin West, Cecil Shorts, Kassim Osgood, MSW, Taylor Price, Jamar Newsome, Jason Hill, Jarrett Dillard

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 2 года назад +1

      @@martianfromjupiter3 All going to the Hall of Fame…the same way I did, buying tickets!

    • @eduardopena5893
      @eduardopena5893 2 года назад

      I got Mercedes Lewis (TE, but still a receiver) and Cecil Shorts.

  • @gswdeclan
    @gswdeclan 2 года назад +2

    I miss Rex even though I'm not a Jets fan. So sick of these Belichick wannabes who treat talking to the press like they're CIA agents under deep cover and anything they talk about could reveal their precious methods and sources.

  • @jaywebb0113
    @jaywebb0113 2 года назад +1

    So looking back at the draft of 2012 and the class of WRs seems as if the best WR in that class was Ty Hilton picked 3rd round 92nd over all the 13th WR selected.

  • @nasetvideos
    @nasetvideos 2 года назад +10

    You explained this story so well. I remember it like it was yesterday living here in NY. I can't believe that was 10 years ago. Outstanding story-telling, as always, and this one was incredibly well researched. Your videos are the best way to start my day. Great job!

    • @KMcNally117
      @KMcNally117 2 года назад

      19 seconds ago video uploaded
      and this dude's comment is two hours old. Are you from the future?

    • @Me181
      @Me181 2 года назад

      U from the future or HOW?

    • @penoakeo
      @penoakeo 2 года назад +3

      @@KMcNally117 pateron

    • @nasetvideos
      @nasetvideos 2 года назад +2

      ​@@KMcNally117 Patreon Supporter of Jaguargator9--I get the videos a few hours earlier than everyone

    • @nasetvideos
      @nasetvideos 2 года назад +1

      @@Me181 Patreon Supporter of Jaguargator9--I get the videos a few hours earlier than everyone

  • @outlawrip-offartist4161
    @outlawrip-offartist4161 2 года назад +2

    Rex Ryan reminds me of a New Yorker so him coaching the jets for some reason always felt natural to me.

  • @yebobbummann1622
    @yebobbummann1622 2 года назад +3

    I have no idea where to rank Rex Ryan as a head coach. The fact that he had people believing in Mark Sanchez and the Jets in consecutive AFC title games baffles me.

    • @14gears55
      @14gears55 2 года назад

      @@matthewdaley746 how did he win Rodgers a SB? Ryan was never on the Steelers or Packers staff

    • @davidperrier6149
      @davidperrier6149 2 года назад +2

      @@matthewdaley746 I think the Jets beat the Colts with Manning, then the Patriots with Brady. I thought either of them probably would have beaten the Steelers and Packers that year.

    • @gluserty
      @gluserty 2 года назад

      I think Rex Ryan started out great (that 2009 Jets team was loaded, and if Mark Sanchez played better in the regular season, their record would've been better than 9-7 (more in line w/ their 2010 record). So, it wasn't a fluke, but neither were the tough final coaching years for Ryan. I feel that he's a good coach, just not a legend.

  • @justinjoseph6966
    @justinjoseph6966 2 года назад +5

    Rex had two good years with Eric Mangini’s team. Once the team started dissolving, he got totally exposed. Truth be told, Mangini was a good coach who never should’ve been fired. Wasn’t his fault Brett Favre hid a shoulder injury and killed the team’s season.

    • @Vv_Twisted_vV
      @Vv_Twisted_vV 2 года назад +1

      I had always said Mangini was a much better GM than a HC, he lost the locker room as players said later trying to be someone he wasn't. His Browns run as HC was even worse. I believe he applied for the wrong job. Rex was the same thing, wrong title. Defensive Coordinator was his gig. Time management and twelve men on the field penalties haunted this guy.

  • @mrmonty86
    @mrmonty86 2 года назад +5

    The Jets are a graveyard for receivers anyway.

    • @eugenedenbrook322
      @eugenedenbrook322 2 года назад +1

      What's crazy is that they once had a legacy of great WRs, from Don Maynard to Al Toon. Don't know what to say, other than J E S T, Jest Jest Jest!

    • @mrmonty86
      @mrmonty86 2 года назад

      @@eugenedenbrook322 Wesley Walker was good but had the injury bug late in his career.

    • @johnselwitz5362
      @johnselwitz5362 6 месяцев назад

      I’m a Steelers fan but I always thought Wayne Chrebet was a quality receiver. If the Jets needed to convert a third down through the air, Chrebet was always a reliable option. An undrafted receiver who was still underrated in my opinion

  • @thawkereynolds
    @thawkereynolds 2 года назад +4

    Hill was terrible agreed but he’s NOWHERE NEAR Tannebaums worst draft pick. He’s not even the worst pic for Jets of that draft, Quentin Coples was much worse and useless.
    Mike Tannebaum drafted Vernon Gholston.. Game over

    • @justinalley3399
      @justinalley3399 2 года назад

      quentin coples wasnt bad jets had him playing the wrong position

  • @derrickgoodman8434
    @derrickgoodman8434 2 года назад +2

    Honorable mention from Ravens fans for controversial call from Rex. 2007 time out call vs Patriots that coulda ended their undefeated season.

    • @Pickledfeet165
      @Pickledfeet165 2 года назад

      Brian billick called that timeout, not Rex

    • @eduardopena5893
      @eduardopena5893 2 года назад +1

      Rex gets credit in Baltimore for taking the outstanding talent the front office picked for him, and putting it to great use in his system. When you go over some of the names that defense had, it was amazing.

  • @donaldpaluga
    @donaldpaluga 2 года назад +3

    Refresh my memory, JG9. Who WAS the first WR taken in the 2012 draft? Did THAT team regret not taking Jeffery?

  • @robertperrella4194
    @robertperrella4194 2 года назад +1

    what rex ryan should have said would be like " i hate to trade up in the draft to get a certain player or any player for that matter" !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @MWReesetheFan1994
    @MWReesetheFan1994 2 года назад

    So weird seeing you doing videos modern late 2000s to 2010s NFL lol

  • @deansch6089
    @deansch6089 2 года назад +1

    "may have been the worst draft pick in the history of the franchise" - that is a BOLD statement. The Jest have been progressing to the mean for 50 years. J! E! S! T! JEST! JEST! JEST!

    • @sumner-kv3gh
      @sumner-kv3gh 2 года назад

      He said worst pick of Mike Tannenbaums tenure. Listen to what he said. I can name a whole lot worse than Hill

  • @chrisguardiano6143
    @chrisguardiano6143 2 года назад +4

    The main things I remember about Rex Ryan's time with the Jets are the infamous snack rant on Hard Knocks & him throwing the headset on the ground after the AFC Championship loss to the Steelers in 2010. Now when it comes to his time with my team Buffalo, the only thing I remember is his end of season rant in 2016 in which he accused the team of quitting on them.

    • @eduardopena5893
      @eduardopena5893 2 года назад +1

      Two main things I will remember about him is his time in Baltimore, and his fascination with feet.

  • @colbyforfun8028
    @colbyforfun8028 2 года назад +1

    2011 Jags: I can name Mike Thomas, and that's only because he caught that hail mary against the Texans
    Edit: That was 2010 so I actually couldn't name any.

    • @eduardopena5893
      @eduardopena5893 2 года назад

      Thomas was on the 2011 team as well. So you get one.

  • @zagnorch1336
    @zagnorch1336 2 года назад

    Rumor has it the real reason why Rex Ryan didn't much care for Stephen Hill was because he thought Hill's feet weren't sexy enough.

  • @calvincolon1523
    @calvincolon1523 2 года назад +1

    YoU cAn’T cOnVeY sArCaSm iN pRiNt!
    (SpongeBob meme)

  • @SamtheBravesFan
    @SamtheBravesFan 2 года назад

    Hill was used as the rare pass option in Tech's triple option at the time. That's why his numbers look so skewed.

  • @eaglefang8656
    @eaglefang8656 2 года назад

    You love the Jets Official JaguarGator9 haha If we did segments on Urban Meyer alone is worse than anything the Jets have ever done in their lives even Kottie and Adam Gase

  • @eduardopena5893
    @eduardopena5893 2 года назад

    I was able to guess two "receivers" from that 2011 team without looking it up. I was pretty sure about TE Mercedes Lewis, and I took a relatively confident guess with Cecil Shorts. That guess was made due to my knowledge of Madden 25 and that abysmal Jaguars team that I would always select for a rebuild and relocate.

  • @TheMailmanOfSteel
    @TheMailmanOfSteel 2 года назад

    I thought Rex Ryan being a "foot guy" was the dumbest controversy of his career....

  • @natrixxvision6997
    @natrixxvision6997 2 года назад

    When your team’s production at wide receiver is that low, you might wanna look at the quarterback.

  • @cynthiatirado1568
    @cynthiatirado1568 2 года назад

    rex ryan rode the coattails of a team that mangini built.When it came time for rex to bring his own players the team crumbled.Lets not confuse rex ryan to bill walsh,this the same man that drafted coples,the terminator calvin pryor,,dee milner

  • @ChrisRobbins1231
    @ChrisRobbins1231 2 года назад +1

    Greg McElroy lmfao that’s a funny one.

  • @ChicoSlicc
    @ChicoSlicc 2 года назад

    Hill was always a project but was worth the gamble imo. Unfortunately, it was the worst fit possible. Mark Sanchez at QB, extremely defensive-minded HC and Revis/Cromartie across from you in camp! That kid had no chance at developing confidence.

  • @brianthomas2434
    @brianthomas2434 2 года назад +2

    Gee. Guess Rex really put his foot in his mouth.

  • @kennethmulvena398
    @kennethmulvena398 2 года назад

    Rex Ryan Jets saga > Any other narrative in his history

  • @imeanifeel3827
    @imeanifeel3827 11 месяцев назад

    The moral of the video is, anyone can say anything after the fact

  • @jeyrock5559
    @jeyrock5559 2 года назад

    45 rec in two years? Mims: I'll take it.🤣🤣

  • @darkblack3320
    @darkblack3320 2 года назад

    I was able to guess mike thomas from the jags as a wr because of his hail mary

  • @seancollins-cruz2134
    @seancollins-cruz2134 2 года назад

    I mean.. he wasn't wrong though 🤷🏻‍♂️ Hill just continued the awful string of Jets 2nd round picks.

  • @Jiggs316
    @Jiggs316 2 года назад +1

    Rex really put his foot in his mouth on this one

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 2 года назад +1

      Thank you Wes Welker.

  • @eaglefang8656
    @eaglefang8656 2 года назад

    I never Hill in the draft but i remember Jets fans wanting him badly calling him Megatron 2.0 because of where he was drafted from because of his size. Hill was not my favorite pick but Rex should've been fired after the team quit on him after the Miami Dolphins game or after the Giants Christmas disaster where the Jets were knocking in the playoffs door instead ran his mouth covered the Giants walls of trophies and lead them for another superbowl victory after.

  • @mr.handbones9591
    @mr.handbones9591 2 года назад

    Rex knew this video would happen in '12, that's why he had to phrase it that way.

  • @pretorious700
    @pretorious700 2 года назад

    "Dumb" pretty much covers the Ryan brothers.

  • @16nman
    @16nman 2 года назад

    It was the best hard knocks season, until MCDC and the lions this year.

  • @ericdarden1255
    @ericdarden1255 2 года назад

    Look like he was right... if Hill was offended...he should have proved him wrong. ..other than that...he was a bust!!!

  • @FlintGiven
    @FlintGiven 2 года назад

    Um the 2011 Jags had Mike Thomas, pretty memorable for that hail mary catch so yeah.

  • @PhilP8980
    @PhilP8980 2 года назад

    I've seen him putting in some work on Stephon Gilmore the GOAT CB. I mean the system CB who cashed in on playing for Bill Belichik for 3 years. Highly overrated.

  • @grooroot9790
    @grooroot9790 2 года назад

    I think he just liked to talk to hear his own voice.

  • @karlcooper7016
    @karlcooper7016 2 года назад

    Scouting is pretty much hit or miss anyway.

  • @rh1763
    @rh1763 2 года назад +1

    The man was honest at least haha

  • @karlcooper7016
    @karlcooper7016 2 года назад

    Mark Sanchez sure was a big time bust.

  • @BleedColtsBlue
    @BleedColtsBlue 2 года назад

    You would say this is a bigger controversy for Rex Ryan than who was playing with his wife's feet?
    😆

  • @Staceyatkinson4496
    @Staceyatkinson4496 2 года назад

    Just like his dad, William Perry anybody

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 2 года назад

      “Wasted pick.”

  • @saracin
    @saracin 2 года назад

    Everyone knows Rex likes to put a foot in his mouth, and sometimes its his own.

  • @brettbanta2100
    @brettbanta2100 2 года назад

    Oh, how they forget Gino....

  • @marcelschubert4361
    @marcelschubert4361 2 года назад

    It's not like he was wrong he was useless 😂

  • @miamimercenary9623
    @miamimercenary9623 2 года назад

    but he was right🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @davidperrier6149
    @davidperrier6149 2 года назад

    Hills first game looked liked he would be a great pick. Never again though after that.

    • @robertperrella4194
      @robertperrella4194 2 года назад +1

      this situation ( stephen hill's first game ) shows that stephen hill was SATISFIED with his performance ! people who are SATISFIED do not have the drive and desire to WANT TO GET BETTER ! stephen hill thought he "HAD IT MADE" as a success !!!!!!!!!

    • @eduardopena5893
      @eduardopena5893 2 года назад +1

      @@robertperrella4194 I remember John Harbaugh coming out one season for the Ravens and saying, "We got a lot of veterans who are special teamers. They are kind of happy to be here. That's not good enough. We want guys pushing for jobs. That's why we brought in all these young, hungry guys. If you're just happy to be here, you shouldn't be here." Sure enough, a lot of veteran players got cut that pre-season and were replaced by the youngsters.

  • @michaelmarino7391
    @michaelmarino7391 2 года назад

    From someone who was a Die-hard Jets fan from 1983-1994 & 1997-2008. I'm NOT surprised by this. I'm so glad I jumped off the bandwagon after Brett Favre's arm fell off, they were 8-3 leading the division & collapsed (once again in December).

  • @stevengrvp
    @stevengrvp 2 года назад +2

    As a jets fan i miss rex Ryan

    • @BobBob-eb4io
      @BobBob-eb4io 2 года назад +2

      Your guys new coach seems like he knows what hes doing

    • @stevengrvp
      @stevengrvp 2 года назад +1

      @@BobBob-eb4io I like coach selah but rex coached like the jets could beat everyone

    • @donaldpaluga
      @donaldpaluga 2 года назад +1

      BRO!-Joe in Saddle River

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 2 года назад +1

      Last coach to lead the Jets to the playoffs.