Is Powercreep A Thing In Wuthering Waves ?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
  • today we will discuss the existance of powercreep in wuwa , by comparing jinhsi and jiyan to see the difference in 1.1
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  • @stioorg
    @stioorg  8 дней назад +20

    i have been contacted by a great theory crafter that can clarify one thing : the longer the rotation the better jinhsi's team becomes and that makes sense since jiyan takes more time in his rotation , so it's true that the first rotation does only have 5% but it can get up to 30% . the point of the video doesn't change but this is worth noting :)

    • @sweatdropss
      @sweatdropss 6 дней назад

      i wonder who that guy could be

    • @Nameless_TV
      @Nameless_TV 4 дня назад

      can you share a spreadsheet used for this?

    • @sweatdropss
      @sweatdropss 4 дня назад

      @@Nameless_TV ask grimro if he wants to share sheets. its his calcs (publicly available on prydwen)

  • @FuFu-xuan
    @FuFu-xuan 8 дней назад +286

    CHIXIA STILL SOLOS

    • @happyapple6976
      @happyapple6976 8 дней назад +16

      Facts

    • @ihaveyourphone
      @ihaveyourphone 8 дней назад

      Yuanwu >>> your balls

    • @foxacin
      @foxacin 8 дней назад +13

      chixia >> crownless hologram

    • @louistaylor2628
      @louistaylor2628 8 дней назад +4

      FAXXXXXX

    • @KoharuTachibana
      @KoharuTachibana 8 дней назад +22

      "What? People are building crit rate on their characters? What's that?"
      -We, the Chixia players after unlocking her first resonance chain

  • @lenasyhx
    @lenasyhx 8 дней назад +134

    People make their own words sometimes.
    If you consider characters being better than others as "powercreep", then sure, power creep is already in the game.
    Although i wouldn't even consider it cause Jinhsi is, clearly, a very important character to the story so i believe its normal for her damage to be that high.
    But if you consider characters being thrown in the trash, so not being able to use them anymore for endgame, as "powercreep" then there is no such thing as powercreep is Wuthering Waves.

    • @urlocalimu
      @urlocalimu 8 дней назад +12

      i agree 100% with what you’re saying. powercreep doesnt exist if you dont care about it. sure characters will be more powerful than other characters but if you dont really care about how much damage that character does, then powercreep wont really matter. if you’re a serious player , then yeah powercreep will really matter but im pretty sure most of the characters can be used for specific enemies and bosses. use whatever character you want if you care about comfortability and playstyle.

    • @user-pt7ry3sf6n
      @user-pt7ry3sf6n 8 дней назад

      Bro just play jinshi for the first time ,then you can percieve the meaning of Dps

    • @N.biebie8428
      @N.biebie8428 8 дней назад +5

      she's the freaking Magistrate of the city, she should have the power to protect her people from danger.

    • @lenasyhx
      @lenasyhx 8 дней назад +4

      @@N.biebie8428 And what did I say?

    • @accelerate-skele2414
      @accelerate-skele2414 8 дней назад +2

      @@lenasyhxdont mind them. either they’re sleep deprived or cant read

  • @ludicolo1106
    @ludicolo1106 8 дней назад +109

    Honestly total damage jiyan same with jinshi.
    Its just a matter of damage per second vs damage per screen shoot.
    The one who get the power creep is just animation skill.

    • @stioorg
      @stioorg  8 дней назад +14

      exactly
      and with counting the dps there is like a 10% difference

    • @Croxy115
      @Croxy115 8 дней назад +18

      well i have to agree on this, maybe Jiyan didn't fall behind on damage but the animation man, its crazy, comparing Jinhsi animation visual effects with Jiyan, makes Jiyan looks like a 4*

    • @homeostasis1103
      @homeostasis1103 8 дней назад

      Well, she indeed deals more dmg than jiyan. However jiyan is by far the best aoe dps in the game ATM and it'll remain the best at grouping mobs for quite a while

    • @PY3100
      @PY3100 8 дней назад +9

      ​@@Croxy115You're overreacting, Jiyan's animations are still good, fun to watch, and well detailed. It's not bad. It's just not as good as Jinhsi's

    • @littlebigeats7682
      @littlebigeats7682 8 дней назад +2

      Animation creep is more important. I have jiyan s1 w/ weapon by accident (not counting weapon). Jiyan is boring to play but so comfy

  • @sticchi1695
    @sticchi1695 8 дней назад +84

    You're doing big damage with crazy rotation Dragon spam, with coordinated attack and crazy min-maxing.
    I'm doing big damage with brainded left click spam with Jiyan.
    We're not the same

    • @KoharuTachibana
      @KoharuTachibana 8 дней назад +6

      I'm not sure if most people know about this super duper ultra confidential world ending secret tech about Jiyan but the rotation basically goes like this.
      >Jiyan ults
      >hold left click

    • @LightofJoshua
      @LightofJoshua 8 дней назад +3

      Lmfao I swear when I use Jiyans Liberation I just click one button over and over

    • @umani9983
      @umani9983 8 дней назад +3

      Plus with multiple enemies, grouping=more effective damage. With jinhsi you might need another rotation just to nuke that one stray that got away.

    • @user-vg3md8oc3q
      @user-vg3md8oc3q 8 дней назад +1

      You're the same. I'm doing big damage with Chixia.

    • @leemay3097
      @leemay3097 8 дней назад +2

      @@umani9983 Jue echo skill and Jinhsi's ultimate have ridiculous AOE so grouping isn't really needed. Also, after 4 BA, jinhsi attacks gains a significant aoe increase. The only time I needed to chase an enemy as jinhsi, is when I don't have my ultimate, I'm not in my ascendance state, the enemy has long range or they are those pesky coward mobs.
      And I have tried Jiyan before, he's more consistent on grouping, but he still suffers from long range enemies and pesky coward mobs. While Jiyan's ultimate gives him unlimited parry and stagger, it cannot stun elite or bosses.

  • @cruLife-morningSTAR
    @cruLife-morningSTAR 8 дней назад +110

    Jinhsi needs stacks and right rotation that takes time. While Jiyan just ungga bungga, better at grouping and parrying. Jinhsi haa Big NUKE, while Jiyan has small nuke with consistent DPS. Changli has also nuke with her forte that is higher than Jiyan, but lower than Jinhsi, while Changli also has consistent DPS than Jinhsi.

    • @motivateddad
      @motivateddad 8 дней назад +30

      Gacha gamers cannot comprehend Continuous DPS and Burst DPS. Nor play style archetypes.

    • @FreuRozen
      @FreuRozen 8 дней назад +5

      ​@@motivateddadDPS= Damage Per Screenshot. Just for flexing in community

    • @redmoon9618
      @redmoon9618 8 дней назад

      Yo changli gotta do that much dmg? If thats true i will get her for sure since i like her and i want her to be my 2nd team dps fr, i havent rolled for the guarantee banner, waiting for changli many said encore was good for her so prob i will get both

    • @noglzxjc9965
      @noglzxjc9965 8 дней назад +13

      ⁠@@FreuRozen DPS stands for damage per second. Damage per screenshot is just a made up term in Genshin community

    • @user-vg3md8oc3q
      @user-vg3md8oc3q 8 дней назад +1

      @@redmoon9618 sure will.

  • @Saberdud
    @Saberdud 8 дней назад +23

    Free characters and 4 star characters still clear the game , if kuro wishes to be competitive long term, they would be smart enough to not make half the roaster useless by year one. This fear mongering over power creep is getting annoying

    • @vincentwolf1456
      @vincentwolf1456 8 дней назад +4

      I think the real powercreep will be not in numbers, but in animations that just let people dodge/parry easier, more automatically. Can't wait for such a character, I can't stand this parry/dodge shit. I want to unga bunga.

    • @datuputi777
      @datuputi777 8 дней назад +1

      😂 Denial... you guys forgot it's a gacha game. I already said it's very nostalgic of any gacha game release. I already knew everything I got now is basically trash I have to farm and save as much so I can still play year 2 without swiping.

    • @CoFF3e_Man
      @CoFF3e_Man 8 дней назад +1

      @@datuputi777 *cough* let me present to you Punishing: Gray Raven, where even day 1 characters is still very valuable even after 4 years

    • @Mel-tw5zp
      @Mel-tw5zp 8 дней назад +4

      ​@@CoFF3e_Man*cough* xiangling

    • @jedemerichjumawan2203
      @jedemerichjumawan2203 7 дней назад

      ​@@datuputi777 pgr and genshin still have meta characters from 1.0 lmao

  • @soranxgaming3035
    @soranxgaming3035 8 дней назад +18

    i dont know about power creep , i just "rover" all the way 😅

    • @user-dz6qu2jx6f
      @user-dz6qu2jx6f 8 дней назад

      Rover got Nerf ??? Cause after this patch came out my rover isn't dealing that much DMG

    • @skyMcWeeds
      @skyMcWeeds 8 дней назад +1

      don't know any changes tbh rover still hits like a truck with ult then dreamless echo combo

    • @CoFF3e_Man
      @CoFF3e_Man 8 дней назад

      @@user-dz6qu2jx6f Nope, Rover didn't get nerfed, my damage is still the same

    • @kamiosumeragi8198
      @kamiosumeragi8198 7 дней назад

      Mob get stronger

    • @AtiXcs
      @AtiXcs 7 дней назад

      i alwys get distrcted by rover hips hehe

  • @Sync0102
    @Sync0102 8 дней назад +5

    the only thing that gets powercrept is that some characters have bigger PERSONALITIES

  • @Armstrong1781
    @Armstrong1781 8 дней назад +5

    DANG
    love your outro so much

  • @effishcent317
    @effishcent317 8 дней назад +15

    Drake meme.
    Yinlin and Verina with Jinhsi : NO
    Yuanwu and Taoqi with Jinhsi : YES

    • @DirkHeidecke
      @DirkHeidecke 7 дней назад

      Yeah Yinlin needs to fill her forte to give coordinated attacks, which requires a bit of on screen time. Yuanwu just needs to show up and press E.

    • @AtiXcs
      @AtiXcs 7 дней назад

      kinda agree with this. people just forcing yinlin in team just bcz but dont consider that its taking ages to fill the forte gauge bar with her. even with c2 jinshi, yuanwu becomes more optimal since dps spikes so much with more frequent jin field time

    • @luseyow9432
      @luseyow9432 6 дней назад

      nah its Yuanwu + Verina
      both char have coordinated attacks (so jinshi can fill up forte faster and quick rotations) and they dont require much field time unlike taoqi and yinlin however yinlin does outscale yuanwu both in terms of dmg output as a character and for the team overall team
      ps: refer to Maygi YT channel on Jinshi her calculations and explainations are so thorough

  • @darkrom8439
    @darkrom8439 8 дней назад +5

    how are people crying about powercreep its been 3 banners so far 💀

  • @Idk_imagine_a_cool_name
    @Idk_imagine_a_cool_name 8 дней назад +48

    I don’t care, to me there is only danjin

  • @eir3831
    @eir3831 8 дней назад +2

    Poweer creep becomes issue when damage floor becomes higher thus old unit falls under that new floor and becomes unviable, damage celling increase is less of a problem than former issue. We can use this logic to fit into games that has powercreep like Hi3rd and see if that fits or not.

  • @kyomu9518
    @kyomu9518 8 дней назад +8

    jiyan unique is he gather mobs full time in ult duration, so i think it's hard to power creep him unless there are another chara with the same function and doing better dps
    also Kuro is well know of making games that take very long time to release the "power creep" chara so we can have more hope for ww that going the same way

    • @stioorg
      @stioorg  8 дней назад +1

      hopefully 🙏

    • @LightofJoshua
      @LightofJoshua 8 дней назад +1

      Exactly Jiyan in Tower is OP
      Grouping is highly important in end game content

    • @N.biebie8428
      @N.biebie8428 8 дней назад +6

      there're only skilled player vs skill issues player, some bro solo bosses with chixia. and there's people like me who got full team well build and die multiple times

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ 8 дней назад +1

      ​@@N.biebie8428 😂

  • @robertomacetti7069
    @robertomacetti7069 8 дней назад +6

    Worst case scenario they can always steal a page from fate go and add quests that once cleared rework/buff/whatever old characters kit
    Aaaaaand
    With moveset being as if not more important than raw damage, jihnsi is less mobile than jiyan, thus she's more of a glass Cannon since it's mildly harder to dodge with her
    Not to a huge effect, but still

    • @datuputi777
      @datuputi777 8 дней назад

      Not in their interest. It's a gacha it will always betray and steal enough money to buy new pc game and all other stuff you miss by playing trash gacha genre.

    • @CoFF3e_Man
      @CoFF3e_Man 8 дней назад

      @@datuputi777 Sike, PGR, Kuro's other game already implemented this, they're called LEAPS.

    • @CoFF3e_Man
      @CoFF3e_Man 8 дней назад

      PGR already did this, They are called "leaps". Vera, an A rank support, is now viable to be a Dark dps because of her leap (buff)

    • @robertomacetti7069
      @robertomacetti7069 8 дней назад

      @@CoFF3e_Man interesting

  • @NiaTheMilkTank
    @NiaTheMilkTank 8 дней назад +10

    Short answer : Yes
    Long answer : Obviously because its a gacha game and they need tk make money however you "need" three teams so its not as fast/much as other gachas but it DOES exist. Just pull who you want/need thats all
    Edit : Powercreep discussion in 1.1 is to freaking early 😂😂😂
    Yall have brainrot I swear

  • @shaka2tu
    @shaka2tu 8 дней назад +4

    im fine with character that can be used instantly had a good damage, and character with strict requirement had even better damage.

  • @PikachuPolice
    @PikachuPolice 8 дней назад +4

    Someone already showcase jinshi vs jiyan and there damage is close not that dar off..its on RUclips just search

    • @ludicolo1106
      @ludicolo1106 8 дней назад +1

      The total damage difference only 1-2k lmao.
      And people said its power creep.
      There's no damage power creep
      Its just animation skill the get power creep.
      Jiyan = jinshi if its about total damage, but jiyan better than jinshi in the term of efficiency
      Animation skill wise, jinshi far off better than jiyan

    • @PikachuPolice
      @PikachuPolice 8 дней назад

      ​@@ludicolo1106jiyan is better in crowd control then jinshi

    • @erikjimenezlopez8377
      @erikjimenezlopez8377 8 дней назад

      ​@@ludicolo1106 And there is something more important that Ani calculation and spreadsheet, which is the way a person plays the game. Nobody plays totally coordinated with the buffs or 100% efficient.
      All these calculations are based on a situation that will never happen in real life.

    • @PY3100
      @PY3100 8 дней назад

      ​​@@erikjimenezlopez8377
      Yeah but if you compare both with no buffs then the damage difference will not change
      But Jiyan is the easier one to use if that's what you're talking about, everyone plays him the same

  • @jureb2278
    @jureb2278 8 дней назад +2

    Meanwhile Encore having the highest DPS threshold already and only going to get stronger with Changli: Hi!

  • @재현7704
    @재현7704 8 дней назад +10

    Jiyan: Ungha bungga counter
    Jinhsi: hmm intro + Grapple + E then combo (skip mech)
    Jiyan: I need energy, give me!
    Jinhsi: Free energy for everyone!
    Jiyan: Verina concerto> Mortefei concerto>Jiyan's once in a blue ult, need to regen
    Jinhsi: Yanwu E> Verina concerto> JinHsi, then repeat
    Jiyan: Best in Aoe, sure
    Jinhsi: Go Jué go! (DoT God- don't forget how DoT works with her when she's in incantation state)
    Jiyan: Nuke on his once in a blue moon ult
    Jinhsi: I can double nuke.
    Jiyan: Can double dash mid-air
    Jinhsi: I don't have double dash but sure I can reach higher
    I don't hate Jiyan, actually I have him, and that's the powercreep he is having rn. It is big marginal? No! but Jinhsi is defo powercreep him, no matter how you look at it. Especially if you have skill issue with Jiyan and it's team. Jinhsi can use grapple tech and it is amazing how Gapple CD is tangled with her Reso Skill. Also Jinhsi can break shield every two rotations, and adding Yanwu vibration buff, she able to destroy boss shield within 1 and half rotations. The fact that you can abuse that is insane. For Taoqi who has a problem with concerto and shield, Jinhsi allows her to abuse shield that skip boss mechanics like crownless attacks. Take note, she still don't have dedicated support. Probably 1.2 characters, because 1.1 are catered to Skill Damage where as Taoqi doesn't work well with Jinhsi since she doesn't have teamwide heal/coordinated attack/she's a tank. Yanwu is good and 0 brain to play in Jinhsi team but he doesn't give much to Taoqi in return because Taoqi attack is slow as hell. So yeah probably 1.2! who knows.

    • @Antidepressiva1980
      @Antidepressiva1980 8 дней назад +1

      That made me smile, thank you.

    • @CoFF3e_Man
      @CoFF3e_Man 8 дней назад +1

      Well considering that Jinhsi is the magistrate of Jinzhou, it would be really questionable if a general is stronger or equal in strength than a sentinel's resonator, who btw had their second awakening.

    • @AtiXcs
      @AtiXcs 7 дней назад +1

      severely limited with very few coordinate attackers. hope the new girl they posted for 1.2 is coordinate atk focus

  • @ninahana2793
    @ninahana2793 8 дней назад +2

    I'm happy with my Jiyan ❤

  • @Sidrouf
    @Sidrouf 8 дней назад

    im doing a no pull account and posting a series about it on my yt, the game is still very fun and i dont really care right now to pull since chixia solos everything for me.....LOVE THE CONTENT KEEP IT UP

  • @denzel4341
    @denzel4341 8 дней назад +1

    Free to play peeps who have Jinhsi clearing tower at 70 and Jiyan struggling at 80: "are you sure about that?"

  • @sarcastoon677
    @sarcastoon677 8 дней назад

    thing i always think of while pulling is how long will this character remains useable till they introduce new replacement for it.. so for example.. rn jiyan is the only areo dps.. and for him to get replaced with same element ie. new areo dps.. its gonna take a while.. each patch stays for like 40 days with 2 new characters.. so after changli.. there will be havoc + glacio then after that next banners will go through same element repeat again.. but this time they will be either support or buffers.. so like rn we only have calcharo and electro dps.. but future banner will replace him with with better electro dps which we can pair with yinlin and that team will become strong again.. same with areo.. we instead of dps next areo might be or even some other elemental character that buffs jiyan way better than mortefi in terms of buffing charge attack + areo damage boost like how yinlin buffs electro..
    so it takes a lotta time to replace old characters.. and elements cuz of floor buffs does matter in tower of adversity.. i bet after reset new tower will have pyro + spectro buff for next rotation for changlis banner..
    and even if the character get replaced after 7-8 months with better alternative.. u should be already bored using the old one.. its totally fine

  • @chrisbailey1173
    @chrisbailey1173 8 дней назад +1

    I had to subscribe because I can't risk losing the 50/50 again 😂

  • @utsubyo
    @utsubyo 8 дней назад +7

    currently jinhsi and jiyan comparison comes down to opportunity cost
    easier to play - slightly weaker
    slightly harder to play - slightly higher damage
    seems fair enough imo
    people have some weird obsession about powercreep, in HSR kids cry all the time about how seele got powercrept and yet she's more than capeable of clearing content, same thing in genshin
    as long as older characters are still viable powercreep is irrelevant, it's only a problem if older characters cant keep up with the content that's getting harder

  • @mrconan400
    @mrconan400 8 дней назад +31

    for those who cares about powercreep I have suggestion for you: just pull last character before the game close :D

    • @jirimijirimijirimi
      @jirimijirimijirimi 8 дней назад +1

      Facts, youre not in the game for the fun

    • @freeme123go8
      @freeme123go8 8 дней назад +3

      Seriously though! Like I get wanting to be meta and everything but no one is playing this game with months or years worth on insight (currently). Changli can release and out DPS Jhinsi tenfold (it’s an exaggeration, and hate that it needs to be said) but what if the character after Changli out damaged her? You won’t know until the character is here and Changli is gone. BUT what if the next character after that is stronger than that one? You see the cycle Im sure. Then there’s the people that only pulls on supports. I gave into that meta in HSR and I ended up dropping the game because we got Ruan Mei, Sparkle, and Robin basically one after the other and I hated it because I never had currency for the characters I actually wanted to pull (Lucked out on getting Acheron lol).

    • @TechyCatz
      @TechyCatz 8 дней назад

      😂

    • @robertomacetti7069
      @robertomacetti7069 8 дней назад +4

      @@freeme123go8 pulling for who you like instead of pulling for the meta is the only sane way to enjoy a gacha as a f2p honestly
      And of course optimize the shit of the characters you have because duh

    • @r.d.6290
      @r.d.6290 8 дней назад +1

      Or just pull the new characters as soon as they appear, to have fun with their gameplay and clear content for months. And avoid pulling them on rerun, unless they've been proven to be op. It's like Ganyu/Ayaka and Yelan situation in Genshin Impact.

  • @jutsu-5540
    @jutsu-5540 8 дней назад +6

    Chixia solo

    • @stioorg
      @stioorg  8 дней назад +2

      real

    • @mr.useless0279
      @mr.useless0279 8 дней назад

      Shes firegod sucsessor so she will solo

    • @HazardTone
      @HazardTone 8 дней назад

      ​@@mr.useless0279there is a new fire god in town Lucia Fire Goddess

  • @judgementkazzy7172
    @judgementkazzy7172 8 дней назад +1

    I'm not stressing too much about powercreep and pulling for characters hrover/danjin/verina, jiyan/mortefi/baizhi, encore/sanhua/jianxin is all I need.

  • @thelostone2694
    @thelostone2694 8 дней назад +4

    I dont even run Yinlin with Jinshi, me team is Yuanwu(hwo tf is that?) and Baizi/Verina, and thats good coz it gives Jinshi and Jiyan a variety in terms of Tower teams = you can run both is you have them
    Yinlin is married to my Sephiroth and I dont intend to break that marriage anytime soon

    • @AzureDrag0n1
      @AzureDrag0n1 8 дней назад +4

      I literally used a level 1 Yuanwu with level 1 weapon and unleveled echoes on my Jinshi team to get 11 out of 12 stars one one side of Tower of Adversity. His only purpose was to heal and provide coordinated stacks for Jinshi. My Calcharro got 10 out of 12 on the other side. 1 Star in the middle tower but I had to use Yinlin for that one. It is pretty hard to juggle characters without having 3 full teams built.

    • @Antidepressiva1980
      @Antidepressiva1980 8 дней назад

      @@AzureDrag0n1 Having only 5 build chars makes it pretty challenging, i like it.

  • @theincipinated
    @theincipinated 8 дней назад +2

    I build only mommies team Changli, Yinlin and Baizhi 😤.

  • @Delightful567
    @Delightful567 8 дней назад

    Great vid

  • @QueenAI-ph1xi
    @QueenAI-ph1xi 8 дней назад +1

    When jiyan is about to be powercrept a suitable sub dps will be released that will buff him so good that it makes him on par with latest dps chars. Maybe a heavy attack buff + aero amplified or etc

  • @WeisterXDprogrammer
    @WeisterXDprogrammer 8 дней назад

    best outro ever

  • @uJaydo
    @uJaydo День назад

    Yo your outro is a banger, who made it? or how did you get it?

  • @starparik
    @starparik 8 дней назад +1

    All I know is if I wanna take someone to L6 Hologram, Jinhsi would be my first pick over Jiyan.
    That’s power-creeping right there for me cuz I haven’t touched Jiyan since I got Jinhsi for Holograms.

  • @marcodomingo3542
    @marcodomingo3542 7 дней назад

    PGR Player here, and I'd say that Kuro really does powercreep characters. So you can expect powercreeping in the future. But that's like a given in any gacha games, unless you want your new characters to be ignored by the playerbase. However, the way they make the enemies more difficult is a bit different. Instead of being tankier, from what we experienced on endgame PGR stuff, they put more emphasis on "damage." So expect future enemies to halve your health just from grazing your clothes. And that's just like the most basic stuff. There are lightning that falls in the sky that you need to dodge cause it decreases your ult gauge, bombs that explode after defeating an enemy, 1 chara gets only 1 dodge, and various bs debuff and boss buff you can think of. I swear Kuro Devs are closet sadists. However, the silver lining is the enemies' health are paper like, so it's just skill-based if you win or not. Although I don't know if Kuro will also implement this, it's possible. Enjoy >:)

  • @excalibur7733
    @excalibur7733 8 дней назад +19

    I will pull for jinshi because as you said yinlin is a really good support for her.

    • @stioorg
      @stioorg  8 дней назад +2

      Yep , not only for her but she is good as a character overall , yinlin was so worth it tbh

    • @ashishitD
      @ashishitD 8 дней назад +7

      She good but not as good as yanwu
      Yinlins rotations are too long
      Yanwu better coz u can get full stacks in the bg and focus on spamming dat skill
      Jinshi Skill......yanwu skill....autos to get glow sets buff.......verina skill and burst....jinshi autos and build up her dragon skill stage....by the time u have her dragon skill ready ull have full stack on the Forte
      Im spammng 137k with yanwu ONCE EVERY 10 sec
      With yinlin add another 20 sec to build her 0wn stack

    • @ShuLucas
      @ShuLucas 8 дней назад +1

      welp i won Yinlin and Jinhsi 50/50 pulls so 🗿

    • @GamingKryz
      @GamingKryz 8 дней назад

      Got a fully built Yinlin but swapped her with unbuilt Yuanwu main focus here is to spam Jinhsi’s skill 4 as much as possible and electro daddy does it better than electro mommy. Got a feeling Changli is a sub dps like Yinlin. Big give away is the outro skill. All dps focused characters has somewhat similar outro skill same goes with subs dps and supports.

    • @N.biebie8428
      @N.biebie8428 8 дней назад

      you can put yinlin in another team cause lv1 yanwu is more than enough for jinhsi(if you can keep him alive), all she need is off field dps to spam her e skill and yanwu tower is perfect for her plus you don't need to build yanwu at all

  • @tamamayu
    @tamamayu 8 дней назад

    Hopefully can get my final waveband for Jinhsi!

  • @Xerneas385
    @Xerneas385 8 дней назад +2

    I have both Jiyan and Jinshi and they are both very strong. Jiyan can start his rotation way faster then Jinshi and is much less reliant on specific stacks or buffs. Jinshi dmg potential is insane but its also more work to get there. They are both good Charakters and I would say that Jiyan is much better at aoe (because of the grouping) then Jinshi

  • @absolutelyabsolute4671
    @absolutelyabsolute4671 8 дней назад +4

    There is powercreep but not that much cuz in this game, even the character with worse dmg can kill a boss due to the gameplay's reliance on the player's skills but that's just my opinion.

    • @stioorg
      @stioorg  8 дней назад +3

      i do agree with that , only in tower of adversity which relies on the investments on a character as much as the skills if not even more

    • @Antidepressiva1980
      @Antidepressiva1980 8 дней назад +3

      @@stioorg For me personally i enjoy the illusive realm more than the tower gameplay. Whatever floats your boat.

  • @gabriel-2702
    @gabriel-2702 8 дней назад +1

    I would love to know where you got your calculations from because CN analysis have shown Jinshi being around 30% better at every level of investement

    • @DirkHeidecke
      @DirkHeidecke 7 дней назад

      Probably practical? CN analysis has been consistently off in this game because its just theoretical number crunching and not based on actual gameplay. Jiyan's damage is probably closer because he auto parries everything and never has to deal with strays due to better grouping. I haven't seen the calculations, so I'm just guessing based on Jiyan's non-damage related strengths over Jinhsi.

  • @manofthepeople2165
    @manofthepeople2165 8 дней назад +1

    I have all 3 limited 5 stars and personally I feel like Jiyan is still the best DPS in the game.
    Jinhsi does a lot of damage, but the ease of play with Jiyan is extremely valuable because it's not like Genshin where everything is a DPS check, in Wuwa you need to dodge the Lv100 boss attacks in Tower of Adversity or you will get one shot. Jinhsi feels like she is very immobile when you activate her dragon state and it's kinda brain dead because your only option is to do 4 basic attacks then the dragon laser.

  • @marupurusaivamsi4802
    @marupurusaivamsi4802 8 дней назад

    We will be getting character leaps 😂

  • @clumzy7777
    @clumzy7777 8 дней назад +3

    People forgot she is the Magistrate. Genshin's Archon's r super powerful units too. But no one saying a thing.
    😂😂😂😂😂

    • @vincentwolf1456
      @vincentwolf1456 8 дней назад +1

      Venti is not that powerful at all, Zhongli is a shieldbot (powerful in his own way, but not the way you would imagine an all-powerful being to be), Raiden is long since just ok, easily replaced with others and Furina is not an archon, so there was no reason to make her so powerful, what a bs on hoyo part.

    • @renzartworks4968
      @renzartworks4968 8 дней назад

      No one says a thing? I literally see this comment in every Jinshi powercreep video.
      character's lore doesn't have any bearing towards character's performance.
      Venti > kazuha
      Zhongli > any character with higher buff multiplier
      Raiden > cyno / chlorinde
      Furina will be next

    • @omeganoelf.6173
      @omeganoelf.6173 8 дней назад

      Beacause they were powercrept. Venti was unstoppable in his time that genshin has to make the new mobs immune to cc. Zhongli was op af that those that have him plays in easy mode. ​@@vincentwolf1456

  • @dergamer0913
    @dergamer0913 7 дней назад +1

    I don't have jiyan or yinlin, should I go for jinhsi or changli? I could use jinhsi as my main dps but I also have Encore from my lost 50/50 so changli's buff would also work. I like jinhsi a bit more but I can't get a lot of her stacks, I also won't pull for both

  • @Croxy115
    @Croxy115 8 дней назад +1

    The only thing Jiyan got powercreep so bad by Jinhsi is the Animation and Visuals Effects, its actually crazy how much of an improvement we see in Jinhsi animation compared to Jiyan, it makes Jiyan looks like a 4 star compared to Jinhsi. Well things can only get better from now and i expect many good things from Wuthering Waves and Kuro Games.

  • @vulpes1936
    @vulpes1936 6 дней назад

    Outro is amazing! Could you please tell me who the artist/animator is? Id love to check out their work!

  • @johns783
    @johns783 8 дней назад +1

    why does nobody bother to mention they're not the same element... enemies can resist or be weak, and tower floors can give buffs to certain elements. they're quite simply 2 dps units of different elements. if another aero weak floor shows up Jiyan will be better for that floor than Jinhsi, and vice versa.

  • @joejunior4700
    @joejunior4700 8 дней назад +1

    You're the CC here where does the two mentioned characters are in the current chinese meta boards rn, then compare that to the past and the upcoming update then we can really talk power creep.

  • @UnknownVPL
    @UnknownVPL 8 дней назад

    my pulls on wuwa has the same intent as my pulls on hsr. ill check the rate up 4*, and if they good (to me at least) ill try pull their dupes. if i got the rate up 5* is just a bonus.

  • @kami761
    @kami761 6 дней назад +1

    If I lose 50/50 on Changli I'll sue you

  • @balitopic711
    @balitopic711 8 дней назад

    I haven’t felt power creep yet even though I got c1r0 jinhsi I find myself going back to calcharo,yinlin 😂

  • @imdani4997
    @imdani4997 6 дней назад +1

    Doesn't matter I still have skill issues

  • @shweepa2061
    @shweepa2061 8 дней назад

    There might be some power creep but that won't mean the older characters will be useless because Kuro would probably add game modes where you need more teams to play

  • @Artorias0000
    @Artorias0000 8 дней назад

    Joke on you. I had both jiyan jhinis and now regret my decision life choices

  • @ShowangGaming
    @ShowangGaming 8 дней назад

    if i lose the 50/50 it's on you now

  • @Elvax22
    @Elvax22 7 дней назад

    I'm happy i have both jinhsi and jiyan the dragon lover😍😍

  • @Aoki3997
    @Aoki3997 8 дней назад

    Pulling for Chang li since I lost my 50/50.

  • @ST1mAPB
    @ST1mAPB 6 дней назад

    Am i missing something?
    First rotation of Jinshi has zero stacks skill to get outro, then accumulate forte for her on other characters and then damage goes. Isn't Jiyon first rotation faster in that regards? And instead from second to third and so on, when u establish her rotation with good forte, she can deal more damage?

  • @smoltaengoo
    @smoltaengoo 8 дней назад +1

    jinhsi is a burst dps that requires teammates to build up stacks so in a proper set up shes gonna do more damage jiyan has consistent dps he doesnt really need a team around him because he can do everything by himself you just want to buff his existing damage also has ease of use if you mess up a rotation with jinhsi you lose uptime and damage with jiyan the moment you ult youre just left clicking

    • @Antidepressiva1980
      @Antidepressiva1980 8 дней назад

      no need to click, just hold left click untill ult stops

    • @smoltaengoo
      @smoltaengoo 8 дней назад

      @@Antidepressiva1980 i play mobas so i got used to spamming clicks really bad habit to have since i play fps as well so i tap more than i spray

  • @syadiqeenrcworld1149
    @syadiqeenrcworld1149 5 дней назад

    I think at some point in game, we need to accept which chr can be slightly op/broken... For eg: jinhsi, spoiler alert, she is the megistrate and was gifted/blessed by power of sentinel jue... So of course she need to be slightly stronger then other jinzhou chr. Its an acceptable powercreep based on story and hierarchy. Unless jiyan have some epic lore/story later on then its a different thing all together...

  • @user-yn4ex7oh5y
    @user-yn4ex7oh5y 8 дней назад

    Me laughing in the corner having all of them as a f2p.

  • @FantasyBreaker
    @FantasyBreaker 7 дней назад

    There is only one kind of powercreep in WuWa
    THE ANIMATION POWERCREEP.

  • @Logic105
    @Logic105 8 дней назад

    This isnt a firefly powercreep no, but you know its coming.

  • @shin1300
    @shin1300 8 дней назад

    Kuro does have power creep but I would guess it would be per gen, meaning like in PGR a generation wide mechanic would be the defining if there is a power creep like timestop mechanic in pgr which like the name suggest pauses stage timers while your character do their ult animation which in turn gives you more dps, and from there a new gen would be higher damage scaling. But for now I don't think year 1 characters of wuwa will do a powercreep amongst themselves.

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ 8 дней назад +1

      I think they will balance more with WuWa

  • @enviousdragon9109
    @enviousdragon9109 8 дней назад

    Honestly, I just pulled Jinhsi (I hope I spelled her name right) because her animations are pretty. Same thing with Jiyan, I'd say from my experience they have similar damage numbers (but that might be because I haven't learned their rotations properly yet).

  • @nightstar475
    @nightstar475 8 дней назад +1

    Powercreep cannot be apply to wuwa atm because we literally has nothing to base off of, we dont even have 1 full elemental team, people really be making up powercreeping to hide their skill issue fr 😂

    • @asahii8409
      @asahii8409 8 дней назад +1

      Right bro?😂 like get good. My Sanhua, Danjin and Yang Yang are all S6 with solid 4-3-3-1-1 echoes and I’m clearing shit.

  • @dhrubajyot1
    @dhrubajyot1 8 дней назад

    I got your point. But I got Jinshi. A player who do not have Jiyan and Yinlin. Please tell me, what should I do?

  • @joshstaples
    @joshstaples 11 часов назад

    Tbh powerful limited main dps units are not that enticing unless their design is peak or their gamplay is fun, havoc rover already smashes everything, so im saving for the next op support

  • @exec_rigveda8299
    @exec_rigveda8299 6 дней назад

    "the power of braindead" 💀

  • @kiyotaka_Ayanokoji279
    @kiyotaka_Ayanokoji279 8 дней назад

    Acheron and firefly are powercreep of hsr 🔥

  • @RaffaeleMaruccio
    @RaffaeleMaruccio 8 дней назад

    I've both ot them but without sig weapon. Sometimes i use both with Verina or 1 of them with Yanglin. But i fell in love with ChangLi the character and animation are so good. The only thing i miss from genshin is the elemenal interaction between two elements.

  • @habilkn8611
    @habilkn8611 8 дней назад

    I pulled her and playing with her feels so fucking satisfying
    her skill kit feels so good

  • @anyaforgors
    @anyaforgors 8 дней назад +1

    Does she powercreep a bit in the overworld?? Yes but that doesnt matter. Later when more endgame is added, we'll eventually need dps of all elements anyways.

  • @r.d.6290
    @r.d.6290 8 дней назад

    Is it worth skipping Jinhsi and her weapon for Changli and her weapon? Especially when I got situation when weapon is guaranteed in 10 more pulls, but I still can lose 50/50 on Jinhsi and be left with only a niche weapon (E skill buff heavyblade)

  • @araash0
    @araash0 8 дней назад +1

    Idont care it single player game
    But from what kuro do to pgr
    This damage mean something have
    higher lvl comes
    New endgame or maybe new lvl mobs
    Because they don’t like one shots
    From what i knew from them

  • @shabazshaikhroll09com30
    @shabazshaikhroll09com30 8 дней назад

    I have both ❤

  • @gamingkalan9131
    @gamingkalan9131 7 дней назад

    is changli bad ?? i was gonna skip jinshi for her ......... now im confused

  • @Heliotropic95
    @Heliotropic95 7 дней назад

    All these Metapods be waiting for General Jiyans downfall 😮‍💨

  • @darren5325
    @darren5325 8 дней назад

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to talk Lingyang VS Jinhsi?

  • @anakinraliere5637
    @anakinraliere5637 8 дней назад

    i have jiyan and yinlin i want jinhsi and changli but im very low spending for now, idk if i can have both :((

  • @TonyTes
    @TonyTes 8 дней назад

    lmaoo i never play according to team meta or anything like that, i got the roar dragon team and just dodge/counter eerything. MOST OP TEAM
    jinhsi, jiyan, mortefi (S6, got lucky with rolls)

  • @pauljerome01
    @pauljerome01 8 дней назад

    The real power creep will be in the introduction of new weapon signatures.
    it's probably not gonna happen in a longtime

  • @khoi9637
    @khoi9637 8 дней назад

    I pulled for simp 🗿

  • @Meteor-ThunderBears
    @Meteor-ThunderBears 8 дней назад

    At the end of the day, just play whatever you like. Jinhsi is just easier to play that's all. And she have Jué as a specific echo that buff can buff her exactly like her kit. Jiyan has generic echo that buff anybody

  • @nautiub2543
    @nautiub2543 6 дней назад

    i only pull char i like,and build them

  • @palaraojessie7635
    @palaraojessie7635 8 дней назад

    We need remember in lore stoey who is jinshi.... And. Jiyan is general... So its not surprised

  • @edychen4324
    @edychen4324 8 дней назад

    Jiyan rely on his ulti which not every rotation available
    While jinshi easy rotation
    Collect all dragon is the right choice

  • @aceddember4005
    @aceddember4005 8 дней назад

    Me who have both of them.

  • @osaiosai5
    @osaiosai5 8 дней назад +1

    My C6 Spectro Rover MELTS everything away!! She is so good, I got lucky with the echos and got crit. rate at 64% and crit. damage at 201%
    I can’t even switch to the other chars bc her energy recharge is so fast 🥲🥲😂 it’s on 151% now
    I’m f2p and I’m glad that I can still enjoy every content without having much struggle 😭

  • @christophermauro-barias7451
    @christophermauro-barias7451 8 дней назад

    power creep is a thing in every game.

  • @SpaceMagicStorm
    @SpaceMagicStorm 8 дней назад

    It's probably too early for power creep, I know in most gotcha it'll happen eventually, year 1/phase 1 characters usually are much weaker than the meta characters of 2 or 3.

  • @pensil2298
    @pensil2298 8 дней назад

    Onnggggaaaa bonggaaaa😂😂😂

  • @yukishiroo4724
    @yukishiroo4724 7 дней назад

    power of skill issue is the thing in the game

  • @brulckgui
    @brulckgui 8 дней назад

    Jinhsi still havent a dedicated support. Even taoqi or yuanwu work as well, we need a better support, and when she has the better support maybe will have powercreep

  • @widchaponjearaphunt5452
    @widchaponjearaphunt5452 8 дней назад

    so far I feel Jinshi can solo, but this will made she build up her gauge really slow, so she needs a team, while Jiyan can just solo NP
    So it tower you can use only Jiyan clear 1-3 floor which will save a lot of cost

    • @feed_rehcra
      @feed_rehcra 8 дней назад

      this tbh
      you need a whole team to for jinhsi in TOA
      meanwhile i just used encore only today to beat 1-3 floor too on the new reset of TOA
      and use 2 jinhsi for the 4 cost stages and 2 remaining

  • @evaander
    @evaander 8 дней назад

    As long as danjin can solo all the content power creep won’t be a thing

  • @sumanpadhy1039
    @sumanpadhy1039 8 дней назад

    I got all the characters and their weapon including jinshi and hav 30 pity and also got a calcharo resonance chain .And iam a f2p .Kuro loves me

    • @vance4172
      @vance4172 8 дней назад +2

      It’s all fun and games until you lose a 50/50 😢 I was like you. Started building pity, ended up with calcharo c1, Jiyan c1, and Jinhsi c1, now I pray for Changli cause I got jinshi and cal in less than 6 pulls between each other 😭