OCD3: What is Suicidal OCD?
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
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listening to this doctor makes me feel amazing. it feels great to know that there is someone there who knows exactly what you're going through, without necessarily going through it themselves. i'm very very impressed by his intelligence and knowledge. he helped me understand my OCD a bit more, but most importantly he assured me that's it's just my OCD and that i'm not going crazy.
When this form of OCD first hit me I was terrified to be left alone, so yes, safety seeking is definitely a part of it and, clearly the opposite of actually desiring to commit suicide. And yet, even with my logic informing me of this, I still struggled because the anxiety response was so overwhelming, so "compelling." When I finally realized that this too, was an OCD theme, I was eventually able to do exposures for it and thankfully moved past it. OCD has come at me in so many different ways and caused such long seasons of misery for most of my life, but sadly I didn't know that I even had OCD until I was 50 years old! I'm finding this to be a common thing among Pure O sufferer's. Thank you for these informative/instructive videos. They are very much needed and appreciated!
Mitzi VanCleve these thoughts are definitely no fun, however they are just thoughts and we have no need to worry about them. Anxiety can stink, but we just have to train our bodies to take a chill pill when stuff is going down. Your definitely not alone, and God will get us through
I have suicidal OCD
Jessica Riles everyone gets crazy thoughts like these. People tell me some weird scary stuff that goes on in their brains. Difference is that we worry over the thoughts, as they don't. We need to be more like them. Hang in there. I've gotten past it before. Its OCD and by the grace of God I've gotten past many different OCD habbits. If I can, you can too. For me what works best is trusting in God that he wants me to be better, and refocus my mind on whatever it is I'm doing. I'll be praying for ya. God bless
Feel your pain, hope you’re doing well
Hi! How did u differentiate that you are immune with the thought of death vs. You feel nothing bout death coz ure eventually doing it? I am scared to be more exposed as it might make me feel okay to die
I’ve been diagnosed with OCD for a while, but never realized this was part of it - kind of feels good to know it’s a “thing” and I’m not alone. I have had bouts of severe depression, and can get very impulsive when upset, so it’s a perfect storm. Last year I went into the mental hospital voluntarily because it was so bad - at least there I would be watched (and we switched meds).
The OCD has been bad lately and I stumbled across the website trying to figure out what to do to to quell it - great info, thanks!
If anytime you feel sad or you are bothered by something feel free to message me because I want to be there for you and I would say love to help and listen to you.
instagram.com/i.am.here.for.you.friend
I'm literally crying from joy while watching this. I've never related to something more in my entire life. This has COMPLETELY changed my perspective. You read all those articles that tell you you're suicidal if you have suicidal thoughts and that you're depressed. I have been so scarred recently about this until now. There seriously needs to be more awareness around OCD. It's not fair that people say suicidal thoughts are always associated with depression.
YEESSSSSSSSS. I don’t feel depressed whatsoever. But this theme of ocd terrifies me!
I thought i was the only one going through this!! I only started to think about this fear in relation to OCD recently, even though it's been going on for years since seeing a graphic depiction of suicide on TV at a young age. I felt ashamed and like I couldn't talk about it because it's such a sensitive topic to talk to others about. Thus I kept it to myself which didn't help at all, considering the fear literally takes my breath away
I worked in a jail and an inmate hung himself on my watch in January 2018. Ever since then I have been terrified of the thought of suicide. A lot of days it drains every bit of energy out of me. I love life and my babies and my wife so much! I don't wanna commit suicide at all! But the fear of it cripples me sometimes.. I just constantly pray for hope that it will get better. I'll pray for everyone suffering.
I know your pain. I'm going through it too. I want to live and I love my babies and husband so much. I would never pit them through that pain. I want to be here! I ruminate on why I want to live and be here and it's so overwhelming I cry! Are you feeling better?
@@TheDdgtz I'm doing alright. I just do life one day at a time. Count my blessings! 😊 Fight the bad times, hope for good every day.
Can i talk with you both??
Hang in there guys, there’s a lot of! Sending all my love your way
Hey buddy If anytime you feel sad or you are bothered by something feel free to message me because I want to be there for you and I would say love to help and listen to you.
instagram.com/i.am.here.for.you.friend
Im having thoughts like these right now, a few days ago i got a thought which made me think i overdosed paracetamol, which scared me shitless. Now, whenever i am alone or need to go on the toilet or whatever, im getting distressed because it feels i cant trust myself...
Stay strong you all!
I have Pure O, it became full blown with DR/DP a few years ago after a super stressful year, and it has gotten better but still comes back and takes different forms. For me I get suicidal OCD, though I fear death, and existential OCD where I think of the nature of reality etc. At first when I had my full blown episode I thought I was going crazy and was afraid I was becoming schizophrenic. Dr. Jeffery Schwartz was a life saver for me. His book Brain Lock did sooooooo much for my handle on OCD. I just want everyone to know no matter how bad you feel, you will ALWAYS bounce back. OCD thoughts and feelings don't last. For me getting enough sleep and cutting down on caffeine and weed has made a huge difference in my symptoms.
Hey, can we talk about it, i think i have same problem as well
Can you share on how are you doing now???
We literally have almost the same story!! Wow thank you for your strength, make sure to prey God bless
How are you now?
👍 Tips for OCD :
- Buspirone
- Esketamine (Prescription drug)
- Never believe whatever you think
- Remember : it's not you, it's just your brain !
- Never try to resort
- Taking Amino Acids Supplement to resist physical & mental exhaustion
- Additional snacks to promote blood glucose.
Know that, much like our thoughts, the construct of “self” is a manifestation of our brain’s. Therefore our “selves” are not the thinkers of our thoughts. We cannot choose the thoughts that our brain gives us, and thus we should feel no responsibility for them. Know mindfulness. Observe thoughts as they come and watch as they pass.
#WOW. So true and what I needed to hear 🙏🏼
The difference here is that people with such thoughts DO NOT want to die, and are (*GENERALLY) actually at a very low risk of suicidality, whereas other OCD sufferers with other symptoms may be at a heightened risk.
*These obsessions can coincide with another mental illness, but it is not necessary for diagnosis.
(*Generally)? If you truly have suicide ocd, which is the fear of suicide, that you do not do it. Ocd sufferers themes are always ego dystonic.
The difference here is if u have self harm ocd and suicide ocd, like me, where u are afraid of both hurting yourself and killing yourself, then you neither self harm or kill yourself.
But the confusion of when suicide ocd may LOOK like suicidality is when suicide ocd sufferers self harm to help deal with the anxiety of not wanting to kill yourself. Ppl with just suicidal ocd may harm themselves bc they do not want to die but they don't care about harm.
Just like every other ocd theme! We are less likely to act on our intrusive thoughts
This type of ocd only happens to people with health anxiety mostly
I haven’t been officially diagnosed with OCD, but I’m pretty damn sure I’ve got it.
About four years ago, I lost a friend to suicide and it really triggered my brain to ruminate and worry about suicide.
To be utterly honest, I’ve never wanted to kill myself and its still the same now, but after my friend’s death, I become unusually worried about the possibility of it happening to me.
I have often suffered throughout my life with intrusive thoughts and finally learnt to distinguish between genuine thoughts and non genuine intrusive thinking.
33Crazydude same here! I lost two people in 2017 and then it took over making me extremely worried to could happen to me
33Crazydude I am starting therapy I’m hoping it will help . I am def not suicidal but the thought scares the hell out of me and I can’t stop obsessing over it ... hope you get passed it .
I just wanted to say that I lost my beloved father to suicide and what you said resonates with me. It's been two years since his death and I can't stop thinking about it because I love him so much and I hate him not being in my life even though I'm relieved he's not in pain anymore. I'm drawn to stuff related to suicide and that fact makes me feel disgusting and awful and then I think that I'm so awful I should die, but I don't -really- want to die yet. I'm also drawn to things that hurt me and make feel sick, which makes me feel worse. It's an evil cycle of hell.
I lost a friend who was like a brother to me a year ago to suicide and I can relate to everyone in this thread and hope you can all heal and recover because God knows I want to.
Omg sameee. When i was a child a quy killed himself in school. Later a person a know killed himself. I had these thoughts ever since i even believed them. But for real i never troughly wanted to die.
I had this as a teen and it ruined my life for quite a while.
How r you feeling now
it is ruining my life now.
I am going through this fear now.
J Jones I’m praying for all you, I love you all and stay strong because nothing is forever
@@saleem8334 Thank you very much.
thank you soo much
Does anyone experience these thoughts very intensely? Like you would never want to commit suicide but it feels like a strong temporary urge.
Yup. It’s called Thought Action Fusion. It you still won’t act on it. It’s again, a misfiring of the Amygdala. Pesky little thing…
Yes and I hope you’re talking about what I think you are because I want to know if someone has ever felt it before, it’s such an ugly feeling, but it only lasts for about 5 seconds and then it goes away…idk how to describe it and the feeling is so draining and reaaaalllyyy strong, it tells me that I HAVE to kill myself, I need to do it, even tho I don’t want to die, I would never commit suicide, but that feeling or what ever it is…tells me otherwise, I could be in the car, shopping, talking, making food, and BOOM i suddenly feel that feeling…is this suicidal ocd???
I am dealing with this now and it’s definitely an obsession that creates fear and it messes with every aspect of your life to the point where life becomes difficult.
YESSSSSSS!!!!! It feels like I have to go get to another universe. ( sounds insane but I have existential ocd too) I HATE THIS. Did you recover? Please help me
@@Lunaluvskitties don't search for reassurence you are and they are suicidal ocd don't be afraid you will not do it focus on you life don't let free time kill your happines
I have become obsessed with the idea of killing myself. Struggled with depression for 1/3 of my life, the last 10 years the last 4 of which I became suicidal. 3 of those years there were times where I wasn't always suicidal but this last year it has been every single second of every single day. Its no longer a question of if it is now when and how. My first thoughts when I wake up in the morning are: how can I kill my self today and is today really going to be the day. I cannot stand being in a situation or place where I don't have the ability to. Its fucking weird how just knowing that I can makes me feel like I dont have to. I am terrified of psych wards and jails where all they care about is if you are still breathing and your heart is still beating. It is pure psychological torture.
Omg I found a person!! This is me 💯💯💯
How are you doing?
But this doesn’t sound like ocd if you are actually wanting to die. Please get help. Your life is valuable
Thank you so much for this. I have been suffering from these thoughts off and on for 12 years--after they started with an episode of PPD-anxiety. Your calming approach and discussion helped remind me what these really are.
Hey If anytime you feel sad or you are bothered by something feel free to message me because I want to be there for you and I would say love to help and listen to you.
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Thank you for this. I have looked up a lot about Harm OCD and CBT and Exposure Therapy. But its mostly pointed towards dangerous weapons and exposing yourself to that. Mine bounces from Harm OCD and Suicidal OCD and i'm getting better at exposing myself to the Harm OCD but there wan't much on how to do that with Suicidal OCD. So the conjuring of dangerous scenarios helps. I just need more on it.
Idk what I have it's like one little thing goes wrong and my mind and body just aren't motivated last time I had thoughts like this was in 2012 and they went away sometime around 2016-2017 now I just feel like the thoughts will always be with me
Do one about ocd and death obsessions.
Perhaps me too.
I feel like i actually want to do It, like you have this urge of do it, like you really want it, and im so scared that i wouldnt be able to control myself, cuz i do not want this at all, i dont wanna die, but sometimes i have this feeling of i wanna do It and thats scared me the most, cuz i dont want to, please someone tell me that this is normal?
@Elizabeth Wesley I am 19 years old and have been dealing with this for about 2 months it’s sucks. Time goes by slow and the day is just dreadful and sometimes I don’t even think I am real in a way derealized from reality. I have been in your situation many times and it’s on and off. Sometimes u feel good sometimes u feel bad it’s like a roller coaster. YOU WILL GET THROUGH THIS. I am struggling with it as well. Surround yourself with positivity and let your brain re wire. YOU GOT THIS!!!
yes i feel this way! had suicide ocd for 3 years now. that is one way my ocd can scare and make me obey it, by making me feel like i actually want to do it and will impulsively do it. however, this is reassurance seeking, asking if ur symptoms are ocd or if they are real, and the only thing that treats ocd is accepting uncertainty in that you may or may not attempt suicide. believe me, compulsions (reassurance seeking) has to sstop for your illness to treat itself. its so so so so so so so so so so hard, the fear is so strong and real, but there are millions of people who know how u feel and are with you, accepting ur ocd and the uncertainty is the only thing that treats it. many wishes to you, if you would like to talk more about this, my email is diana.ake993@gmail.com and i would love to help inform you on treatment and coping for suicide ocd....
I feel the exact same way. I know i don't want to do it at all but it's in my head all the time and it feels so real like i actually want to do it. I literally want to cry right now just writing this.
Man I relate to this. It’s so scary
don't worry man, it's not you, it's just your thoughts and urges lasting for hours until reassurance, sometimes you feel really depressed as if you really want it but you know you don't want it, and sometimes makes you feel lifeless, it is OCD brother, it tricks you, like makes you feel like, emotionally you want to do it, it feels real, it feels like it is you who want to do it, so be assured, it is OCD. OCD is not just a thought, it tricks you into believing that it is you who wants to do it, and sometimes makes you feel like, heaviness in your chest like denial, when you tell yourself you don't want to die. IT IS OCD BUT SEEK A MEDICAL HELP.
My mother had this. I'm afraid I won't have the courage to do it.
I have suicidal OCD
How do you deal with it
@@jesdunl2756 yes yes yes finally someone who understands
J Jones hey did you manage get rid of it and if you can tell me how it would be really really nice.
hey did you manage get rid of it and if you can tell me how it would be really really nice.
Yeh Kya hoti hai Kesa feel krte ho
I have both suicidal and harm ocd . The worst compination ..
I often have these thoughts of hurting myself and if I don’t act on these thoughts I get extremely anxious because I feel something bad is going to happen. I also have to do these things three times or in multiples of 3. Could this be considered OCD? Should I go to the doctor?
I know this comment is a year old, but I hope you're still here and okay! If you haven't seen I professional yet, please do soon!
I have OCD
Me too.
Same
RUclips. If you are reading this, this video could help me and other people and would be nice to see some like/dislike beforehand to assure it is actually helpful
Ive taken aripripazol and escitalopram for around 2 months then my Psychiatrist said i have obsessive compulsive disorder. And removed escitalopram and replaced it with fluvoxamine. Is this normal?!
ps. hahah maybe my delusions hit my doctor now
I've been diagnosed with pure o in the past and I just recently had a bout of anxiety and I'm not sure what caused it initially but I had the thought that if I kill myself I won't have anxiety anymore. That gave me anxiety even more because I dont wanna die, but i feel like the anxiety is gonna be too much to handle at some point and I'll do it, do you think this is suicide ocd?
I to have pure o and it's really getting to me.I am not on meds but feel i need them now.I feel life is not worth living with this mental torment.I wish there was assisted suicide for the mentally I'll.
@@fareedhamil7394 please seek treatment, life is definitely worth living!
@@fareedhamil7394 if you ever need someone to talk with I'm always here too you can add me on facebook, same name and same profile pic as here
@@mswizle ...can you do WhatsApp video...I am in Canada...
I would love to talk
I have this type of OCD.
Same
My current theme #Sigh
I've been diagnosed with suicidal ocd. Not sure if I 100% fit this diagnosis. For as long as I can remember I've had intrusive thoughts of killing myself. It will last as short as 6 months the longest has been 5yrs. I see a particular image over and over one time it was slitting my throat. The worst was gauging out my eyes. Currently it's hanging my self going on 3 yrs now. I don't want to die but I have an overwhelming feeling like I have to, accompanied with images of doing it. I usually cause myself self harm ... Cutting, burning ect to get relief. This recent episode caused me my job. Does this sound like suicidal ocd?
Yes it does! It sounds debilitating so try getting help :)
It sounds like it, but it also sound like a bit of suicidal tendencies, please seek help and do not harm your self
ocd worsens with reassurance. seeking reassurance, like you are doing now, is a compulsion that worsens the ocd cycle, it sounds impossible, but the only thing that treats ocd is to accept the uncertainty that you may or may not kill yourself, and to continue living life, not seeking reassurance. trust me, ive had this theme for 3 years
Are you better now? I’m going through this now
@@Lunaluvskittieshi did u get better
I don't understand what he said about the ocd treatment can anybody tell me what he exactly said
Apologies for the delay in responding. The doctor recommended exposure and response prevention for suicidal OCD, which involves voluntarily thinking about associations with suicide, like standing on a train platform or balcony, to show the brain their irrelevance. This helps the brain realize that the situation is not a threat.
@@Jess-wp1td Maan That was very scary time of my life Thank GOD I came out of it
@@UsmanKhan0980 how????
I'm known as FightMeYoshi...
I head butted a steel pole today until I split my head open...
I do a lot of self harm... Sometimes its like an uncontrollable impulse... is this still OCD?
i recommend help. suicidal ocd is about fearing hurting urself, not doing it...
Hey buddy anytime you feel sad or you are bothered by something feel free to message me because I want to be there for you and I would say love to help and listen to you.
instagram.com/i.am.here.for.you.friend
What if one day I’ll actually do it 😫
that's so ocd even if it make it real you will not do that
I’m just so scared that these thoughts are true. I don’t want them to be true at all but there’s still that voice that is like “well what if they are true”? and I’ll just freak out. I’ll be in health class and my teacher will talk about suicide and I will close my ears with my hands or even grip my desk so I don’t literally get up and kill myself. I know how stupid it is, I am very aware, but there is still that voice (not an actual voice) saying “well what if I do want to kill yourself”? I DO NOT WANT TO but I’m so scared that I will do something. I’ve been seeing a psychologist for about a year now and I will continue to do so, and I have gotten a lot better. I am a completely different person than who I was a year ago and I am so thankful. We’re all in this together guys, and here’s a little tip: if you are looking through the comments or looking at articles trying to find some proof that you aren’t suicidal or that these thoughts aren’t real, then it’s probably suicidal OCD. If anything these thoughts have given me a new perspective on life, and I am so thankful for the opportunity to be alive, to love, to laugh, to do anything! Life is AMAZING and you know it! I promise you that these thoughts aren’t real 💕
Thank you so much for this. 💕 how are you now?
@@Lunaluvskitties I’m doing pretty good! The thoughts are still there and they are worse every now and then, but for the most part I’m good! These thoughts are so bizarre because I know that they are not real, but like they tell me that I’m just lying and that I secretly do want to hurt myself, but the very fact that I commented on this video and actively fighting these thoughts just prove that they are not real! Thank you so much for the comment it absolutely made my day!! I hope you are doing ok, and I can promise that these thoughts are nonsense and that lots of people struggle with this!!
@@Lunaluvskitties can we talk ?
Is it possible for you to actually listen to your brain and do what it’s telling you?
Can this suicidal OCD be cured?
I've had it for 10+ years and now studying MFT and one thing that has helped me is realizing your thoughts should not be given that much attention and respect. For example when you see a hot man or women on the street and you think wow I'd love to make out with that person or your next to an annoying kid and think I'd smack this kid if I could do you do it? No but the only reason these thoughts become bigger is because we fear this thought we wont act on it but our brains play it over and over again to remind us that.... HEY U DONT WANA KILL URSELF but this person did but U DONT but analyze why your thinking about it so you dont!! Find reasons why you shouldn't!
My advise is let it be tell yourself thank you brain for giving me thoughts and move on bad or good our brains are designed to protect us since the start of man kind! It's not the brains fault it's our bodies so focused on what's happening within we don't get to enjoy outside because we fear what we think! Dont get mad at yourself for being human allow your brain to think but also remind yourself YOU RUN YOUR BODY and mind! Not the other way around. Can we control clouds? Weather? No we live through it same with our thoughts! It only becomes an attack when our brains trying to find survive but if we let it think dont give it attention it will feel it is not a threat to you and think about the other thousand thoughts you think of in a day!
Please remember we are MUCH STRONGER then we feel! Our enemy is within learn to flow with life and accept the good and bad as teachings not as punishments! I hope this helped God bless yall!
By the way just because you have OCD doesnt make you less of a person people with OCD ARE VERY highly intelligent have great memory and are empathetic people who love deeply and care for others! Please remeber that :)
@@mellineeeee2515 hey buddy thank you so much for helping people. If anytime you feel sad or you are bothered by something feel free to message me because I want to be there for you and I would say love to help and listen to you.
instagram.com/i.am.here.for.you.friend
I so tired of how people always bitching about how terrible this is
Other than finding a solution tips advise that can end and finally brake the chains of this Suicidal OCD.
YEAH I HAVE IT, IT SUCKS
All i care bout is a solution.
Not the bitching.
True i agree
Hi how are you now ?
Can someone help me get rid of suicidal thoughts, pls.. im depressed :(, pls help...
I wanna die pls
Punishment, I don't know why God is mad at us?