These are two of my favorite speakers out there. I paid for these many years ago and they are still delivering the goods. Wait till you hear them together! 😃 Check out my speaker website: guitarspeakerguide.com Timestamps: 0:00 - Information 1:57 - Fender Amp Clean 3:36 - Fender Amp Maxon 808 4:27 - Fender Amp TOD9 (Higher Gain) 5:03 - Marshall Crunch Channel 5:41 - Marshall Ultragain 6:15 - Both Speakers Together 7:09 - Final Considerations Speakers in Sweetwater: Swamp Thang: imp.i114863.net/knDxx Texas Heat Speaker: imp.i114863.net/xxV1x Speakers on Thomann: Thomann: bit.ly/3jM7T9A (affiliate links) 👏🏻
Great Comparison ! You make the best videos on RUclips. The sound quality is always spot on and your playing is the best tone ! Keep making these GREAT Videos !
I prefer the Swamp Thang for its tonal definition. I think the extra clarity and punch makes it a more versatile speaker and it’s easy to tweak the high end on your amp or pedals if desired.
I've been thinking about building 2 2x12 cabs and mixing these speakers. Can't believe I stumbled on a demo video like this! They sound better together imo, than stand alone. Badass thank you 🤙
Swampy all the way, more mids and clarity, Texas Heat, way more scooped mids! You could really HEAR it on the Marshall with the Tokai! Good compare & contrast Shane!
Swamp Thing has alot more clarity. I use to put Texas Heat speakers in several amps but found the Swamp Thing had a much cleaner tone and response and clarity. BTW I use Fender tube amps mostly
Thanks! Very helpful comment! I think of purchasing a Swamp on the same basis but I fear a " too much bass too little treble scenario"- my amp is dark anyway.
I usually play clean and around the house. I'd slightly prefer the more rounded Texas speaker for that kinda thing. With gain on the buckers, Swamp Thing wins by a mile from where I'm sitting. Powerful and articulate. The Texas speaker sounds like they threw a blanket over the amp.
Awesome another video dude! These speakers are cool indeed. I have have both! KILLER!!! As u said, they together sounds like a huge and monster wall of sound. Thanks
Awesome timing for this video.i have a blues deluxe reissue i got a few months ago and been wanting to change out the speaker .ultimately decided gonna do the swamp thing .thanx man.keep up the great videos .
Have ya done it yet? I’m in the same boat, really want to know if I’ll be able to get a similar tone to the SRV “lenny” blackface out of the blues deluxe
To my ears the ST took out the treble and had a thicker tone. I own two STs in a 2x12 cab and they sound great. I definitely recommend upgrading to an ST for those looking to do so. I’ll also recommend the Private Jack. I put one in my peavey classic 30 when the stock blue marvel crapped out. Great rounded tone
This video just pointed out that I don't like the Texas heat. I much prefer a bright speaker. 150 watts is insane but that DB sensitivity is a selling point for me.
Wow, I really like the Swamp Thang. I recently got a Fender amp with a 10" Rajin Cajun and love it. I'll have to check out the Swamp Thang speaker for sure.
I did too. I liked the swamp thing in the Fender clean but I have to say when he was finger picking, I couldn’t tell as much difference as when he was using a pick.
Cheers, Shane ... After watching one (or two?) of your earlier videos, I bought a Swamp Thang to put into a used Fender Princeton 112 Plus solid state, as a light weight pedal platform amp. It worked quite well, but I quickly tired of the sonic limitations of the amp, so I pulled out the amp, put a blank panel in the gap, and a back brace with a speaker jack, so that the cabinet is now just a 12" open back cab. Got a Traynor YCV40 head (comparable to a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe) and the combination is sweet, loud and very powerful. Eminence describes the Swamp Thang as a slow breakup speaker, whereas the Texas Heat is a medium breakup speaker, and the difference is very audible in this demo. The Swamp Thang is POWERFUL, deep bass, clear and neutral mids and highs without being spiky. The Texas Heat has that audible breakup on the mid and high edges, the transient peaks that have that very short-duration over-saturation. In this video, I prefer the Swamp Thang when you use pedals - more precise, less raspy. But, for guitar->cable->amp, the combination is pretty kickin'. Ultimately, I'd say the Texas Heat is well named.
Great video and thanks for the speaker comparison Shane. I used to own the Texas Heat that was in a 1X12 cabinet. Sad to say, it disappointed me, for my intended purposes and so I sold that combination on. I currently own a Swamp Thang that's in a 6G3 combo and it absolutely kills. The amp is super touch-sensitive at a low cleanish gain; when cranked, the Swamp Thang handles all 20 watts of raging tube overdrive like an absolute champ. Even with the speaker output attenuated, the speaker performs admirably and is the perfect recorded edge-of-breakup guitar tone.
@@georgefromgreece4119 I tried the TH in 3 different contexts- as the speaker in a Fender ‘65 DRRI combo, a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe combo, and in a compact closed-back speaker cab. In all 3 contexts, I truly tried to love it. The top end was never an issue, but perhaps I am more demanding when it comes to bottom end (umph) and low mid response (punch) which the TH somehow was not able to really deliver on. Keeping in mind that I did give it plenty of time to break in, even gigging with it as well. Long story short, the Texas Heat is a solid speaker choice for muddy amps, but don’t look to it for a “fat” tone.
@@Roomfulofgear thank you so much! My case is the opposite: I need to brighten and open the highs of my sound a bit- I own the Legend 1218 which is considered to be in the same ballpark and frd identical to the Swamp, only 3 db leds sensitive. I need something more edgy ( more highs/ high mids) for surf and rnr. The combo I refer to, Laney Cub 12, has a lot of very tight and solid lows and low mids already.
I acquired an unloaded VHT Fat Bottom back in the day and got both of these speakers wired up in them myself. I love the dynamics each speaker pushes out which sounds MASSIVE in that all-birch 2x12.
Nice video!!! Eminence sold ST + TH as a set for a long time! No wonder! The mid ranges really compliment each other, they're both huge on the bottom, and the ST brings a hair of tops in the mix.. I read once that they're the same speaker come with different size magnets. ST is heavier and TH is more medium weight. Have had them both and the Neo "Lil Texas" which if it's the same cone in all three, should really be called the "Lil Swampy" because it's got the tops dialed back in, and BillM that modded so many Blues Jrs did say he thought the Lil Texas sounded like a ST but only about 40% of the weight. I recently got my hands on an Eminence Screamin Eagle, the 50 watt variant of the The patriot series, and I think it is the same cone as well! Sounds like a Texas Heat with extra treble and touch sensitivity.... Killer speaker! Rock on brother!!!✌️
Both sound really nice but I like the sounds of the Texas heat just a bit more. Great video, like I’ve said before I learn so much from your videos. Keep it up👍
oh wow... swamp thang the winner for me here. strange though, what I thought i didn't like about it from watching other videos, is what the TH is sounding like here and the ST sounds way nicer. Would it be possible you do a comparison video with a Red White and Blues?? I have that speaker but I dont have the others to comapre it with. Thanks Shane
I'm running the Man O War speaker it sounds similar to the Swampthing, just a hair less "creamy". It's very clear and crisp. Great review. If you want to do something really fun, download the eminence sound files and throw them into audacity in various configuration that allows you to compare, mix, and match the different tones.
@@Tang526 I think so. Planning on it around Christmas time. It will be my gift to me. I am also buying another Swamp Thang. I have several amps & cabs. I am also interested in the Eminence Red White and Blues Speaker.
I think the Swamp thing sounded better with clean tones and the Texas Heat was better overdriven. The top end was smooth and not overly crunchy. Both great though, so thanks for the comparison
I own (2) Swamp Thangs. Nothing but fuzz pedals go through them and ass-kickin' overdrives. Handles the low end very well! Running them with the Orange Micro Terror Dark.
A near 3db difference means that when listening to them paired together, a person mostly hears the ST. Paired speakers really need to have identical or nearly identical efficiency ratings to hear each more or less equally. Agree with most of the other posters here. I also preferred the ST. It's got the power rating and efficiency to handle just about anything. Also, for those running a modeler (or similar upstream tone-shaping/preamping) you may prefer to have a speaker with a 'flat' response. Sometimes, non-guitar speakers (such as PA drivers for example) make good speakers for those that rely on a modeler most or all of the time.
Swamp Thang for me - love it. Using a combo amp as a cab for the speaker to record is always fun but can get a little confusing if your trying to explain to a non "muso".....
As far as I can tell on the speakers, Texas Heat sounds a bit more bluesy where as the swamp thing seems to gear towards better southern rock. But they both sound great.
I prefered the Swamp Thang over the Texas Heat but they sounded massive together and would make for a good paring in a 2x12. I wouldn't mind hearing you repeat this comparison but with a backing track to give them context in a mix. I have a feeling that once band enters the equation that the Texas Heat would really come into it's own.
They both sound great for American voiced speakers. If you want to try amazing British voiced speakers Shane, you HAVE to try Jim Seavalls Scumback speakers. I have a 55hz in my 1x12 for my matchless, and it is absolutely amazing.
I have used both speakers in different setups through the years. The Swamp Thang brings a more rounded sound. The Texas Heat seems to have more of a mid push. Both great speakers depending on your amp.
Great vid! Do you have to do any soldering to put the Texas Heat in your Marshall? Thinking about doing it, but might need to learn how to solder first.
I just ordered a Texas Heat for a used Blues Jr. 111 I just bought. I got a killer deal on the amp so I splurged on a better speaker although the stock sounds great. I wanted something a little special and I like to mod out my equipment. Thanks for the demo. I like the sound of both.
I'm thinking about one or the other in my classic 30, leaning more Texas heat because the amp is very bright and it might tame it down a little..Any experience with that amp? Just wondering if the classic 30 would drive the speaker into break up being 150W vs the 75w Blue marvel... Already tried a Celestion vintage 30, it took the mid-top honk out but was grainy sounding at volume... No thanks on the vintage 30... Great playing and great video!
Shane In a Hot Rod Deluxe I was thinking of 3 speakers. I have a new Hot Rod Deluxe V4. They cleaned up the clean Channel from the factory quite a bit. So I tryed to bias it to break up a bit. It didnt help much breakup wise.-but did warm it up slightly. I also did a mod where You solder a wire line on the Mid Tone potemetor the between the 2 lugs this takes away the overbearng bassy mids when You go above 5 on Amp volume. This is the way the old Fenders are wired. This did fix that issue. But The Celesion A Type Speaker still could be better. I was thinking between a WGS ET65 and a Swamp Thing. So My question is have You had any EXPERIECE with the Celestion Aniversary 30 Watt Vintage 30? (Not the current Vintage 60 watt version) Im thing of getting a bit breakup below 5 on the amp Volume with The Celestion Aniversary Series Vintage 30 due to some videos I liked the tone of that speaker. But I dont know if the bass response would be less than the Swamp Thang or WGS ET65? I was suprised how the swamp Thang has sustain and works with the pedals and the tone even with the Strat in Your You Tube video. I didnt think that such a high wattage speaker would sound liked its being pushed a bit. I also tryed The amp sounds really good full and good Highs mid and Botton with a 410 Peavy Cabinet I have with the Rajin Cagins .( by the way Just in case You want to experiment with some of these things..) But Im aiming at getting a good big sound/tone with the Amp speaker alone.
They work very well together, but the Texas sounds slightly muffled like a blanket was thrown over it. Would work great to tame an overly bright amp I reckon.
2:00 How can one not hear "Life Without You"... And BTW, these are my two favorite speaker as well. Swamp Thing is going into my Custom Kraft 880 and Texas Heat into my Peavey Prowler.
I have a 2X12 which I use vertical one speaker on top of the other. I have a Swamp Thing on the bottom and a Tonker on top to cut through the mix. I've been using that setup for the last 10 years. Gives me every sound I want.
I am between these 3, Heat, Thang, Tonker to make a start with Eminence. How is the Tonker compared to Swamp? Your cab is a combo I have been long considering but still I will buy just one first for a Cub 12 combo.
@@georgefromgreece4119 If I had to use one speaker I would probably choose the Swamp over the Tonker but they are both brighter than the Texas Heat. The Swamp is somewhere in between the Texas Heat and the Tonker and a good all around speaker.
Hey - Ive had a pair of TH and ST for years now, but only ever put in horizontal cabs. Ive got a new vertical cab on order and will replace the stock 70/80's. Im curious about which to put bottom and top. What did you do?
HI Shane, we hope all is well thanks mate for showing those Em's What I hear is subjective but the swamp is open top and bottom while the Heat has a compressed tpo and bottom. The difference is when your on the bridge and playing through an OD pedal. Harmonics overtones that's another subject but playing on your own vs a band situation can make the joice very different. So a 2 x 12 cab with the blend of the swamp and heat is for another video. Cheers Grunta
Hi there Shane! So... have you ended in, generally speaking, keeping the Swamp in the BJ and the Heat in Marshall? Obviously there must be a reason for that if so is the case. I recall in your first review of those speakers, both on BJ, you had settled down to the Heat for that amp. My situation is this: I consider having a high- wattage, super efficient, all -around Eminence speaker for my Cub 12 and any future use. Where should I start? I am between those two and the Tonker which you possess as well (or even other intricate solutions as the Wizard). Which one do you recommend? I am after cleans and headroom mostly, finger picking only. Thank you a lot in advance! Many cheers from Greece!
My Marshall 6101 Combo came with an EVM, but it was really not engineered to hold a ten Kilo speaker and that sort of yanked the baffle loose. I think that I am going to try that Swamp Thang out once I get this glued back together, it probably does what I want. It will still be a monster but five Kilos will help.
Great subject. I have a Marshall Reverb 75 SS. It’s from 1985 the speaker is a Celestion Side Winder 90 watt I also have a Peavey Windsor Studio 20. Will the The Swamp thang do them both justice? Thanks again.
Texas Heat: Only the mids Swamp Thing: Not the mids They sound great together in a Marshall circuit. The Swamp Thing was great with the fender. I have an Eminence CV-75 in my Marshall combo. It's a great British voiced speaker.
I think the Swamp Thang sounds better to me all around. I am currently in the process of putting Swamp Thangs in both of my ADA 2-12 guitar cabinets. Not a straight swap as the old Celestion G12S-50's only had 4 mounting screws and they were positioned poorly at that. Had to fill the original mounting holes with epoxy. Soon paint the boards that the speakers mount to. Then I will have to drill 8 holes for the new speakers to mount. Hopefully have them done within the next week or so.
Vastly preferred the texas heat, swamp thing was too muddy for me. I bet cranking the heat will get plenty of lows for live use. Mixed was cool too but I like the focus of a single speaker.
These are two of my favorite speakers out there. I paid for these many years ago and they are still delivering the goods. Wait till you hear them together! 😃
Check out my speaker website: guitarspeakerguide.com
Timestamps:
0:00 - Information
1:57 - Fender Amp Clean
3:36 - Fender Amp Maxon 808
4:27 - Fender Amp TOD9 (Higher Gain)
5:03 - Marshall Crunch Channel
5:41 - Marshall Ultragain
6:15 - Both Speakers Together
7:09 - Final Considerations
Speakers in Sweetwater:
Swamp Thang: imp.i114863.net/knDxx
Texas Heat Speaker: imp.i114863.net/xxV1x
Speakers on Thomann:
Thomann: bit.ly/3jM7T9A
(affiliate links) 👏🏻
I was very impressed with Both through the Marshall. Thanks Shane. Blues On....💙
So Shane have you totally given up on that Tonker that you used to have?
@@Firedancer100 Good question !
Shane which one do you recommend for a stageright 15 watt tube amp? I play similar style as you. Thanks dude!
Great Comparison ! You make the best videos on RUclips. The sound quality is always spot on and your playing is the best tone ! Keep making these GREAT Videos !
I prefer the Swamp Thang for its tonal definition. I think the extra clarity and punch makes it a more versatile speaker and it’s easy to tweak the high end on your amp or pedals if desired.
Love how they sound together! Probably a bit of overkill, but I have 2 of each in a 4x12 cab set in an X pattern. :)
I've been thinking about building 2 2x12 cabs and mixing these speakers. Can't believe I stumbled on a demo video like this! They sound better together imo, than stand alone. Badass thank you 🤙
Swampy all the way, more mids and clarity, Texas Heat, way more scooped mids! You could really HEAR it on the Marshall with the Tokai!
Good compare & contrast Shane!
Swamp Thing has alot more clarity. I use to put Texas Heat speakers in several amps but found the Swamp Thing had a much cleaner tone and response and clarity. BTW I use Fender tube amps mostly
Thanks! Very helpful comment! I think of purchasing a Swamp on the same basis but I fear a " too much bass too little treble scenario"- my amp is dark anyway.
A LOT is 2 words. A LOT, A LITTLE, 2 words my friend.
Are you using a hotrod deluxe with the swamp thing?
@@vinlander8484 HRD is an already dark amp ( for a Fender tweed)
I usually play clean and around the house. I'd slightly prefer the more rounded Texas speaker for that kinda thing. With gain on the buckers, Swamp Thing wins by a mile from where I'm sitting. Powerful and articulate. The Texas speaker sounds like they threw a blanket over the amp.
One difference is the dB level, louder sounds crispier, the Swap Thing is almost 3dB louder. But I do like the ST.
Definitely prefer the Swamp Thang, but they both sound good.
Thank you so much for this, Shane! This really helped confirm the Swamp Thang as more my tone!
Have both. I bought a harley benton 2x12 cab and put both in and man what a cabinet. Sounded killer
It’s a massive wall of sound running both! Congrats! 😄🎸
@@intheblues I play most styles and it sounded killer for blues and shred
Awesome another video dude! These speakers are cool indeed. I have have both! KILLER!!!
As u said, they together sounds like a huge and monster wall of sound. Thanks
Awesome timing for this video.i have a blues deluxe reissue i got a few months ago and been wanting to change out the speaker .ultimately decided gonna do the swamp thing .thanx man.keep up the great videos .
Have ya done it yet? I’m in the same boat, really want to know if I’ll be able to get a similar tone to the SRV “lenny” blackface out of the blues deluxe
The two together sound great. Alone, it's the Swamp Thing hands down.
Just scored a set of 1976 celestion G10-50 speakers for my 2x10 cab! Amazing sounding and the low end sound is crystal clear!
To my ears the ST took out the treble and had a thicker tone. I own two STs in a 2x12 cab and they sound great. I definitely recommend upgrading to an ST for those looking to do so. I’ll also recommend the Private Jack. I put one in my peavey classic 30 when the stock blue marvel crapped out. Great rounded tone
This video just pointed out that I don't like the Texas heat. I much prefer a bright speaker. 150 watts is insane but that DB sensitivity is a selling point for me.
I'm more into Texas Heat for it's mid tone. When playing in a band it quite helps the guitar not to get faded by the drums in lower volumes.
Wow, I really like the Swamp Thang. I recently got a Fender amp with a 10" Rajin Cajun and love it. I'll have to check out the Swamp Thang speaker for sure.
Really liked the Swamp Thing with the fender amp!
I did too. I liked the swamp thing in the Fender clean but I have to say when he was finger picking, I couldn’t tell as much difference as when he was using a pick.
The Fender George Benson Hot Rod Deluxe signature amp comes with a Swamp after all!
Swamp thang is winning those clean fender tones!!
Cheers, Shane ... After watching one (or two?) of your earlier videos, I bought a Swamp Thang to put into a used Fender Princeton 112 Plus solid state, as a light weight pedal platform amp. It worked quite well, but I quickly tired of the sonic limitations of the amp, so I pulled out the amp, put a blank panel in the gap, and a back brace with a speaker jack, so that the cabinet is now just a 12" open back cab. Got a Traynor YCV40 head (comparable to a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe) and the combination is sweet, loud and very powerful.
Eminence describes the Swamp Thang as a slow breakup speaker, whereas the Texas Heat is a medium breakup speaker, and the difference is very audible in this demo. The Swamp Thang is POWERFUL, deep bass, clear and neutral mids and highs without being spiky. The Texas Heat has that audible breakup on the mid and high edges, the transient peaks that have that very short-duration over-saturation. In this video, I prefer the Swamp Thang when you use pedals - more precise, less raspy. But, for guitar->cable->amp, the combination is pretty kickin'. Ultimately, I'd say the Texas Heat is well named.
Nice comment!
Great video and thanks for the speaker comparison Shane. I used to own the Texas Heat that was in a 1X12 cabinet. Sad to say, it disappointed me, for my intended purposes and so I sold that combination on.
I currently own a Swamp Thang that's in a 6G3 combo and it absolutely kills. The amp is super touch-sensitive at a low cleanish gain; when cranked, the Swamp Thang handles all 20 watts of raging tube overdrive like an absolute champ. Even with the speaker output attenuated, the speaker performs admirably and is the perfect recorded edge-of-breakup guitar tone.
What didn't you like about the Texas Heat? What do you prefer on the Swamp? And lastly what type of music do you play? Thanks in advance!
@@georgefromgreece4119 I tried the TH in 3 different contexts- as the speaker in a Fender ‘65 DRRI combo, a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe combo, and in a compact closed-back speaker cab.
In all 3 contexts, I truly tried to love it. The top end was never an issue, but perhaps I am more demanding when it comes to bottom end (umph) and low mid response (punch) which the TH somehow was not able to really deliver on. Keeping in mind that I did give it plenty of time to break in, even gigging with it as well.
Long story short, the Texas Heat is a solid speaker choice for muddy amps, but don’t look to it for a “fat” tone.
@@Roomfulofgear thank you so much! My case is the opposite: I need to brighten and open the highs of my sound a bit- I own the Legend 1218 which is considered to be in the same ballpark and frd identical to the Swamp, only 3 db leds sensitive. I need something more edgy ( more highs/ high mids) for surf and rnr. The combo I refer to, Laney Cub 12, has a lot of very tight and solid lows and low mids already.
I acquired an unloaded VHT Fat Bottom back in the day and got both of these speakers wired up in them myself. I love the dynamics each speaker pushes out which sounds MASSIVE in that all-birch 2x12.
I like the brighter nature of the SThang... I had one, it’s pretty dark relatively speaking
Nice video!!! Eminence sold ST + TH as a set for a long time! No wonder! The mid ranges really compliment each other, they're both huge on the bottom, and the ST brings a hair of tops in the mix.. I read once that they're the same speaker come with different size magnets. ST is heavier and TH is more medium weight. Have had them both and the Neo "Lil Texas" which if it's the same cone in all three, should really be called the "Lil Swampy" because it's got the tops dialed back in, and BillM that modded so many Blues Jrs did say he thought the Lil Texas sounded like a ST but only about 40% of the weight. I recently got my hands on an Eminence Screamin Eagle, the 50 watt variant of the The patriot series, and I think it is the same cone as well! Sounds like a Texas Heat with extra treble and touch sensitivity.... Killer speaker! Rock on brother!!!✌️
Top comment! Cheers from Greece!
Great comparison, Shane. That was really helpful and ear-opening 😉
Both sound really nice but I like the sounds of the Texas heat just a bit more. Great video, like I’ve said before I learn so much from your videos. Keep it up👍
Great comparison Shane. The Swamp thing was obviously brighter but it's the tones of the texas heat that I dig. 😎
oh wow... swamp thang the winner for me here. strange though, what I thought i didn't like about it from watching other videos, is what the TH is sounding like here and the ST sounds way nicer. Would it be possible you do a comparison video with a Red White and Blues?? I have that speaker but I dont have the others to comapre it with. Thanks Shane
I'm running the Man O War speaker it sounds similar to the Swampthing, just a hair less "creamy". It's very clear and crisp. Great review. If you want to do something really fun, download the eminence sound files and throw them into audacity in various configuration that allows you to compare, mix, and match the different tones.
I have recently been studying both of these speakers for my 2x12 Bugera Cab. Thanks for the info Shane. Blues On....💙
Are you gonna do both
@@Tang526 I think so. Planning on it around Christmas time. It will be my gift to me. I am also buying another Swamp Thang. I have several amps & cabs. I am also interested in the Eminence Red White and Blues Speaker.
Wow great information in the speaker website. Thanks again.
5:10 patent that sound, it's as ROCK as ROCK tone gets. Peace Brother, Happy Holiday's.
I preferred the Swamp Thang on all recordings. Thank you for sharing!
Great video Shane...I use the Swamp Thang and Texas Heat together in a Peavey VTX Classic amp and love the set.
Great comparison ! I got a Swamp Thing I got for cheap and never used it . I'll be using it now !
My uncle and I put one of each of those in a seismic 212 cab. It sounds great!
I think the Swamp thing sounded better with clean tones and the Texas Heat was better overdriven. The top end was smooth and not overly crunchy. Both great though, so thanks for the comparison
When you said in older video speaker change can make a big difference... mate you was right
Swamp Thang felt like jelly and the Texas Heat felt like peanut butter. Great together but not bad separate either! :D
Love this demo as I own a blues jr and a DSL40C vintage. Highly considering the swamp thang for the dsl. Cheers and thanks for the quality video.
When you're ringing out the chords on the swamp thing I was sold there haha. Never tried an eminence speaker. May give them a shot now
I own (2) Swamp Thangs. Nothing but fuzz pedals go through them and ass-kickin' overdrives. Handles the low end very well! Running them with the Orange Micro Terror Dark.
Those tones! 🤤
What a great, clear demo. Convinced me to buy another Hot Rod and load it up with a Swamp Thang lol
Yes my 2 fave speakers as well. Loved the sound of the Swamp Thang through the Marshall (and your Tokai).
Agree with the 2x12 setup or one each.
I'd like to hear these speakers in the Fender Tonemaster Amps. Different speakers in those amps is still a great unknown.
Loved the Swamp thing by itself (treble addict). But those two together, WOW!
Love a combo of 2 speakers .....I personally use a v30 and G12H ...in my
Dsl40cr and a 1x12 cabinet
Your a Godsend man. All your advice is on point. I appreciate your channel. 🎸
A near 3db difference means that when listening to them paired together, a person mostly hears the ST. Paired speakers really need to have identical or nearly identical efficiency ratings to hear each more or less equally. Agree with most of the other posters here. I also preferred the ST. It's got the power rating and efficiency to handle just about anything.
Also, for those running a modeler (or similar upstream tone-shaping/preamping) you may prefer to have a speaker with a 'flat' response. Sometimes, non-guitar speakers (such as PA drivers for example) make good speakers for those that rely on a modeler most or all of the time.
So true! PA speakers make for great guitar speakers for so many different situations! They are flatter frd-wise thus far more flexible tone wise.
@@georgefromgreece4119 Guitars sound great through some JBL P.A. speakers
@@rockostiffredi4276 I would say through many PA speakers and most HiFi speakers.
Swamp Thang for me - love it. Using a combo amp as a cab for the speaker to record is always fun but can get a little confusing if your trying to explain to a non "muso".....
As far as I can tell on the speakers, Texas Heat sounds a bit more bluesy where as the swamp thing seems to gear towards better southern rock. But they both sound great.
Such a solid comparison, great job 👍
Both sound good. I like the Swamp Thang a little better. Its voiced closer to a Blue Bell which is my favorite speaker.
I prefered the Swamp Thang over the Texas Heat but they sounded massive together and would make for a good paring in a 2x12.
I wouldn't mind hearing you repeat this comparison but with a backing track to give them context in a mix. I have a feeling that once band enters the equation that the Texas Heat would really come into it's own.
would you throw both in an old m80 chorus?
They both sound great for American voiced speakers.
If you want to try amazing British voiced speakers Shane, you HAVE to try Jim Seavalls Scumback speakers.
I have a 55hz in my 1x12 for my matchless, and it is absolutely amazing.
Swamp Thang for me. Great comparison vid.
Swamp thang wins by a lot. I would like to hear Swamp thang vs Red, White and Blue speaker.
Wow swamp thing sounds killer. Has a nice clarity I like. The Texas heat has a vibe too, but something about that clarity with the swamp thing
Hands down winner for me - Swamp Thing
Both are really good. Different flavors but you can't get wrong with either one
I have used both speakers in different setups through the years. The Swamp Thang brings a more rounded sound. The Texas Heat seems to have more of a mid push. Both great speakers depending on your amp.
Great vid! Do you have to do any soldering to put the Texas Heat in your Marshall? Thinking about doing it, but might need to learn how to solder first.
No soldering. You just attach the terminals. :) guitarspeakerguide.com/5-best-marshall-dsl40cr-speakers/ Check the video here.
@@intheblues thanks!!! I think a Texas Heat might be in my near future!!!
Both sounding very good but, something about the clarity, punch and dynamics of the Swamp Thing.
I just ordered a Texas Heat for a used Blues Jr. 111 I just bought. I got a killer deal on the amp so I splurged on a better speaker although the stock sounds great. I wanted something a little special and I like to mod out my equipment. Thanks for the demo. I like the sound of both.
Sounds amazing. I had no idea. What can a better speaker do to fancy up a Fender Mustang 100 gtx?
I'm thinking about one or the other in my classic 30, leaning more Texas heat because the amp is very bright and it might tame it down a little..Any experience with that amp? Just wondering if the classic 30 would drive the speaker into break up being 150W vs the 75w Blue marvel... Already tried a Celestion vintage 30, it took the mid-top honk out but was grainy sounding at volume... No thanks on the vintage 30... Great playing and great video!
Cannabis Rex is awesome for a classic 30.
That swamp thing is crazy
These speakers sound amazing with an orange micro terror driving them too!
Shane In a Hot Rod Deluxe I was thinking of 3 speakers. I have a new Hot Rod Deluxe V4. They cleaned up the clean Channel from the factory quite a bit. So I tryed to bias it to break up a bit. It didnt help much breakup wise.-but did warm it up slightly. I also did a mod where You solder a wire line on the Mid Tone potemetor the between the 2 lugs this takes away the overbearng bassy mids when You go above 5 on Amp volume. This is the way the old Fenders are wired. This did fix that issue. But The Celesion A Type Speaker still could be better. I was thinking between a WGS ET65 and a Swamp Thing. So My question is have You had any EXPERIECE with the Celestion Aniversary 30 Watt Vintage 30? (Not the current Vintage 60 watt version) Im thing of getting a bit breakup below 5 on the amp Volume with The Celestion Aniversary Series Vintage 30 due to some videos I liked the tone of that speaker. But I dont know if the bass response would be less than the Swamp Thang or WGS ET65? I was suprised how the swamp Thang has sustain and works with the pedals and the tone even with the Strat in Your You Tube video. I didnt think that such a high wattage speaker would sound liked its being pushed a bit. I also tryed The amp sounds really good full and good Highs mid and Botton with a 410 Peavy Cabinet I have with the Rajin Cagins .( by the way Just in case You want to experiment with some of these things..) But Im aiming at getting a good big sound/tone with the Amp speaker alone.
They work very well together, but the Texas sounds slightly muffled like a blanket was thrown over it. Would work great to tame an overly bright amp I reckon.
2:00 How can one not hear "Life Without You"...
And BTW, these are my two favorite speaker as well. Swamp Thing is going into my Custom Kraft 880 and Texas Heat into my Peavey Prowler.
Really good demo. Thanks
I have a 2X12 which I use vertical one speaker on top of the other. I have a Swamp Thing on the bottom and a Tonker on top to cut through the mix. I've been using that setup for the last 10 years. Gives me every sound I want.
I am between these 3, Heat, Thang, Tonker to make a start with Eminence. How is the Tonker compared to Swamp? Your cab is a combo I have been long considering but still I will buy just one first for a Cub 12 combo.
@@georgefromgreece4119 If I had to use one speaker I would probably choose the Swamp over the Tonker but they are both brighter than the Texas Heat. The Swamp is somewhere in between the Texas Heat and the Tonker and a good all around speaker.
@@adambilge2834 Thanks a lot Adam, you 've helped a big deal, for sure! Many cheers from Greece!
Hey - Ive had a pair of TH and ST for years now, but only ever put in horizontal cabs. Ive got a new vertical cab on order and will replace the stock 70/80's. Im curious about which to put bottom and top. What did you do?
@@Orko138 try both ways, then decide.
Wow. That must have been hell to set up. Far beyond my talent., Goof work Shane
HI Shane, we hope all is well thanks mate for showing those Em's What I hear is subjective but the swamp is open top and bottom while the Heat has a compressed tpo and bottom. The difference is when your on the bridge and playing through an OD pedal. Harmonics overtones that's another subject but playing on your own vs a band situation can make the joice very different. So a 2 x 12 cab with the blend of the swamp and heat is for another video. Cheers Grunta
Hi there Shane! So... have you ended in, generally speaking, keeping the Swamp in the BJ and the Heat in Marshall? Obviously there must be a reason for that if so is the case. I recall in your first review of those speakers, both on BJ, you had settled down to the Heat for that amp. My situation is this: I consider having a high- wattage, super efficient, all -around Eminence speaker for my Cub 12 and any future use. Where should I start? I am between those two and the Tonker which you possess as well (or even other intricate solutions as the Wizard). Which one do you recommend? I am after cleans and headroom mostly, finger picking only. Thank you a lot in advance! Many cheers from Greece!
I have a B52 AT212 combo with a Texas Heat/Swamp Thang combo and it sounds fantastic.
Which do you personally prefer? Thinking of getting the swamp thang or cannabis Rex but can’t decide. I have a blues deluxe as well
My Marshall 6101 Combo came with an EVM, but it was really not engineered to hold a ten Kilo speaker and that sort of yanked the baffle loose. I think that I am going to try that Swamp Thang out once I get this glued back together, it probably does what I want. It will still be a monster but five Kilos will help.
I'd like to know how would they sound together in the Tone Master Twin.
The Texas heat has more of a SRV tone to my ear. I reckon with a tele playing through it it's more if a marriage made in heaven.
I like the smoother less harsh sound of the Texas Heat. Would have love to gear the humbuckers with it in the fender
Swamp King sounds so good. That efficiency is insane though.
Clean i hardly heard any difference. Crunch and high gain the ST was clearer the texas compressed more i think and added „crunch“. Hard to decide
Shane have you ever tried the Eminence Allesandro signature speakers? I think they would be right up your alley too!
I love these high wattage speakers because the idea of plugging a Mesa Triple Rectifier into a 1x12 and having it just work is hilarious to me
Great subject. I have a Marshall Reverb 75 SS. It’s from 1985 the speaker is a Celestion Side Winder 90 watt I also have a Peavey Windsor Studio 20. Will the The Swamp thang do them both justice? Thanks again.
How did you play through both speakers at once? Forgive my ignorance but I thought if you line out of a combo amp the original speaker won't be used?
I’m about to by my first swamp thing speaker to put in my fender blues deluxe reissue super excited
How is the Swamp Thang working for you? I'm soon to be in the same boat.
Texas Heat: Only the mids
Swamp Thing: Not the mids
They sound great together in a Marshall circuit. The Swamp Thing was great with the fender. I have an Eminence CV-75 in my Marshall combo. It's a great British voiced speaker.
You mean the other way round!
@@HondaWanderer I totally get your point Texas Heat certainly has a bunch of very good elements as well!
I’d take the Swamp Thang all day with the Fender, but I could go either way with the Marshall
I would love to see you do a 2X10 of the l’il buddies with your amps
Is it my imagination or does the Texas Heat sound more 'rounded' over all, with even less highs than the Swamp Thang ?
oh ho oh the Les Paul + Marshall ultra gain = BEST ROCK SOUND EVER.
Swamp Thang and Tonker is the way to go in a 2x12.
The Tonker is a great speaker too! It's got a massive sound :-)
Totally, two of Eminence's best speakers, for sure!
@@intheblues ... but you aren't using it as much...?
I think the Swamp Thang sounds better to me all around. I am currently in the process of putting Swamp Thangs in both of my ADA 2-12 guitar cabinets. Not a straight swap as the old Celestion G12S-50's only had 4 mounting screws and they were positioned poorly at that. Had to fill the original mounting holes with epoxy. Soon paint the boards that the speakers mount to. Then I will have to drill 8 holes for the new speakers to mount. Hopefully have them done within the next week or so.
All things considered
Your set up, your playing
My I Pad, my headphones
Texas Heat
I prefer Texas Heat. It sounds more open and scooped. It reminds me a G12T75.
Vastly preferred the texas heat, swamp thing was too muddy for me. I bet cranking the heat will get plenty of lows for live use. Mixed was cool too but I like the focus of a single speaker.