He looked 50 at 25, with those cheek bones and drawn face. It's amazing he's still alive, all be it just judging by his latest interviews. Fabulous drummer, top, top drawer. I warm to the miserable old bastard.
As i understand it, Cream was started after his time with Graham Bond. He was getting off smack toward the end of that band/start of Cream so he was probably still very hollow faced from it all. Didnt help he was clearly hanging out of his arse and being asked to play first thing in the morning for Stigwood.
The drums are not a series of dead notes. Ginger employed two diffrent bass drums, tuned to two different notes to etablish pitch relationships, intervals and cadences between the hands and the feet. That is how he is able to get that talking drum/chanting effect.
rhythmantic - Totaly agree, very refreshing. I liked his "one man orchestra" comment. This is the nicest I've ever seen Ginger treat an interviewer - for once the questions were informed.
no, he really is a dick. ive met him, sometimes uses his ailments as an excuse, but a lot of the time he really has a serious attitude adjustment, thats why even some big industry people dont care for him.
yep, ive seen the footage, seems happiest when left to his own devices. there was one gig he did a fair while back where it was the middle of a song, and he jsut stood up and said " i need a piss" and jsut walked off stage!
crymzynplague ever hear what Elvin Jones said about him? Idk how ginger thought he was better than him. Ginger is great but Elvin was in a different league
Ginger Baker was by far the most technically proficient rock drummer of his era - He could do everything Keith Moon could do and more only he could do it in time
It’s really what you’re interested in doing on an instrument. You could say Bakers a hack when watching Buddy Rich. You can say everyone was a hack watching Rich. He just played at another level. . Moon was awsome at rock to me. Young man blues is a great example of his energy. It’s all in what you’re interested in listening to or playing really
@@Doubrelle yes. It definitely is. I wanna be have my own style on everything I play. These days it’s pretty hard to do. So many talents out there. Plus learning now. Way differently then I had to. I played drums as long as I remember cau I had a half brother start me as a toddler. Guitar I started at 15 or so. Had to listen for harmonies. By putting the balance on 1 side. Yeah. That’s what was up then. This is what I do now. Just jam on stuff I try an come up with. ruclips.net/video/bj8CGTQyZMQ/видео.html
@@326vince sounding good there bud - heres one from my soon to be released album...theres even a guitar solo of sorts! ruclips.net/video/HDDLJJeShNY/видео.html
His style is loose and was formed during the jazz era. I think a lot of players today are more regimented or tighter sounding and thus can't relate to a loose old school player like Baker. Still, the guy could do some very innovative/remarkable African style drumming on the kit. He was very original and that is where he gets his legend from (i.e. his innovation). Listen to Live Cream's NSU sometime. I think you'll appreciate him more after that.
Funny how people disrespect this with the benefit of 50 years hindsight. Try comparing this to anything from 1968 or before and the only place your going to find anything close is the jazz world. And don't make me laugh with your Mitch Mitchell and Keith Moon comparisons.
I love seeing this vid again. I saw it once in the 60's and thx to youtube I can see it again. Ginger was/is a drummer of great tones,styles and timings. His use of Jazz/Rock/African odd timings and melodies, opened up many options for drummers in the 60's. In my opinion he was the only rock drummer using the drumset as orchestral instrument back then.He is still a fabulous innovator even today. His son Kofi is a killer drummer technician as well.
He was why you get all the rock drummers of today, but his roots were in Jazz, whereas Robert wyatt did not go down the rock path but He and Ginger were the pioneers of Drumming in that era, there were other great drummers also. Ginger certainly was born with it.
God Bless Ginger. Wow. Only seen this clip once and I kept trying to find it. This has so many aspects and fundamentals of drumming. He was and still is a total Master. This is great stuff. Thanks for sharing with the drumming community. Boy, I need to practice!
+flagemdown66 So then why don't you start playing again if you enjoyed it so much? I've been playing professionally and teaching for a number of years. I wish I knew where to find students that are older adults who actually want to play. Not that kids don't but it seems like we had more drummers and bands to inspire as than now. Music of today and thus drumming is for the most part pretty boring.
“The keeper I THINK is my left foot.” When his solos reach a crescendo, it sounds like the bombing of Stalingrad. I saw him live in East London in a jazz club … as The Ginger Baker Trio. He performed Pressed Rat and Warthog. And….a Jazzy version of Sunshine. The point is .. to hear him perform live … was unlike anything I’d ever seen. Because the man could swing.
Ginger explains a lot of secrets in his recently re-released video "Master drum technique" which is well worth getting. Bits of it can be seen here on youtube...
Did anyone noticed, that Ginger played Traditional Grip here? 2:55-3:28 Would be very interesting,if there would be an explanation what he's doing here, which technique... Push- Pull, whatever... Was Baker into the Moeller, or the Gladstone- Technique, or did'nt he give a f.. about it?
According to most junkies, speedballing makes you hallucinate, HARD....throw Lysergic Acid into the mix, at at time when it was legal pre-1966... Jesus
Great drummers on Ginger Baker... Charlie Watts says he is the most accomplished drummer to ever come out of England. John Bonham called him 'astonishing'.
The Cream song (What A Bringdown) is a 5/4 time with left bass drum keeping the time right hand on cowbell and right foot and right hand playing accents
He always said he was a jazz drummer and here he shows why. The rhythms he cracks out at 2:50 and 4:03 are just mindblowing. Very few rock drummers could match that level of technique and feel and of course he could play both types of music easily. Fantastic insight.
I am always amazed when people compare John Bonham to Ginger. I mean JB is great, but nowhere near Ginger's league... Not many are. Steve Gadd? Shame Ginger is such an arse. I watched about the first ten mins of that documentary about him and he was clearly horrible so I didn't waste time watching any more
this man is just on another level. hats off to all the British drummers of the era... but this guy here.... is another type of thing. anyone coming close on a good day is Mitch Mitchell. on a good day, emphasize
He started off with 22x11 and 20x11, but that was only for 1966...he then bought a second silver sparkle kit and it had 20x14 and 22x14, sizes he plays to this day
here are his kit sises in the later era of cream: Bass drums were 22x14" and 20x11" Mounted Toms were 12x8" and 13x9" Floor Toms were 14x14" and 16x14" Snare Was a 1940's black Leedy Snare 6.5 x 14". Hope this helps XD
this, boys and girls, is a ROCK STAR. ginger doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves for influencing generations of drummers... including the likes of john henry bonham. the best quote i've ever heard from a drummer came from him: "your job is to make the other guys sound good. that's your gig." if only the young up-and-comers could absorb this type of philosophy, what amazing steps might be taken...
well it was the 60s man everyone was stoned ur parents might have been stoned who knows. that back then was a time of peace cuz the drugs mellowed u out.
Ginger is just a shy guy, look at his mimics infront of the camara, then watch him play - all alone doing his stuff. BTW he talks like Alec Ferguson, he's an addict too????
yeah man, I think John Bonham had the best combination of attack and overtone. It was kinda straight up the middle there, thats my rule of thumb(generally) for just about everything...
Expense is relative. I've paid different prices for both at different times. Depends on who your buying from. They are quite a bit louder than wood and great live and cutting throught a heavy band. They are tough to record with. They record rather flat sounding. Pinstripe heads help but wood is a better recording kit. They are a little lighter than wood shells but not much. I've recorded and toured with both,had Red,Green, and Amber kits in the Bonzo sizes. Loved em all.
I never understood why he got so much credit on his drumming ....compared with Mitch Mitchell or Mike Shrieve to name just other two drummers from the same generation.....
Probably the greatest drummer in contemporary music, not an affable man to interview except about his craft. Will be missed and extremely difficult to see his style replicated in any form.
love the Scooby Doo toms! awesome...its a shame everyone these days muffles the hell out of drums, ya don't get all that raunchy mid range any more...not as musical and open
Ginger is without a doubt one of the best rock drummers if not the best. I have had the hardest time learning his stuff I think of any rock drummer out there. He is just a master...nobody can put this man down in my opinion. Thanks for putting this video up by the way, I may finally start to get his stuff down that he does it in full view. He has unbelievable groove.
I've played all my life. MANY different kits, wood and vistalite. I have to disagree. In the 80's and since then due to trying to compete with the low cost of Tama, Pearl etc. Ludwig has turned out some real crap. I'll take anything from say 76 and back. But I also havent played any newer luds, they may have improved
@Kevin Feige AH a You Tube fight starter. Whats the matter Kev, I don't get to have an opinion? And if I do and it differs from yours I MUST therefore suck right? You're So when Guys move from one kit manufacture to another thats just because they love to play right? Has NOTHING to do with the quality does it? The shit that came out of japan in the 60s WHICH I OWNED and was barely playable I should kept and never changed cause I love to play right? When Buddy Rich threw his set of Vox drums out of a second floor window into the top down car of the Vox rep who was coming up to see him it was just because he loved to play right? Wasn't that the drums were shit no matter how good HE could make sound, he didn't like em. Personal preference and opinion is WHY different drums companies EXIST. If all anyone was interested in was playing period a set of practice pads would suffice. You may want to re think what you said here. ANY drummers good or not that doesnt CARE what they play are usually those in the 10 -18 year old category because their parents bought them the kit and they haven't yet experienced anything different. Do YOU fall into that category?
He looked 50 at 25, with those cheek bones and drawn face. It's amazing he's still alive, all be it just judging by his latest interviews. Fabulous drummer, top, top drawer. I warm to the miserable old bastard.
One word, drugs!!!
As i understand it, Cream was started after his time with Graham Bond. He was getting off smack toward the end of that band/start of Cream so he was probably still very hollow faced from it all. Didnt help he was clearly hanging out of his arse and being asked to play first thing in the morning for Stigwood.
The drums are not a series of dead notes. Ginger employed two diffrent bass drums, tuned to two different notes to etablish pitch relationships, intervals and cadences between the hands and the feet. That is how he is able to get that talking drum/chanting effect.
The interviewer was very informed and aware of drumming and articulated very interesting questions.
rhythmantic - Sal D'Amato specially about his double bass work
that's a gem
presumably
rhythmantic - Totaly agree, very refreshing. I liked his "one man orchestra" comment. This is the nicest I've ever seen Ginger treat an interviewer - for once the questions were informed.
rhythmantic - Sal D'Amato the interviewer was voiced over later. It was just a cameraman asking ‘and what do those cymbals do mate’
And?
This man is one of the GREATEST drummers of all time......... I'll take lessons from him any day. Stoned or sober!!!
no, he really is a dick. ive met him, sometimes uses his ailments as an excuse, but a lot of the time he really has a serious attitude adjustment, thats why even some big industry people dont care for him.
yep, ive seen the footage, seems happiest when left to his own devices.
there was one gig he did a fair while back where it was the middle of a song, and he jsut stood up and said " i need a piss" and jsut walked off stage!
Of course hes a grade a major asshole...doesnt make him any less of an all time great Drummer though!
crymzynplague ever hear what Elvin Jones said about him? Idk how ginger thought he was better than him. Ginger is great but Elvin was in a different league
Ginger Baker was by far the most technically proficient rock drummer of his era - He could do everything Keith Moon could do and more only he could do it in time
Riiiiight. Moon was a hack. Do you get high off the smell of your own farts?
It’s really what you’re interested in doing on an instrument. You could say Bakers a hack when watching Buddy Rich. You can say everyone was a hack watching Rich. He just played at another level. . Moon was awsome at rock to me. Young man blues is a great example of his energy. It’s all in what you’re interested in listening to or playing really
@@326vince very good point - same with guitarists
@@Doubrelle yes. It definitely is. I wanna be have my own style on everything I play. These days it’s pretty hard to do. So many talents out there. Plus learning now. Way differently then I had to. I played drums as long as I remember cau I had a half brother start me as a toddler. Guitar I started at 15 or so. Had to listen for harmonies. By putting the balance on 1 side. Yeah. That’s what was up then. This is what I do now. Just jam on stuff I try an come up with. ruclips.net/video/bj8CGTQyZMQ/видео.html
@@326vince sounding good there bud - heres one from my soon to be released album...theres even a guitar solo of sorts! ruclips.net/video/HDDLJJeShNY/видео.html
i have been looking for this vid for a long time , i love watching my dad talk about his stile thanks for posting it . kofi baker
Fucking liar.
canadianroot probably not actually lol
@@canadianroot no u
Beautiful!! Good luck & health be too you!!! Son of Legendary drummer Mr Ginger Baker!!!
⚡👍🥁😎🙏🏼⚡🙂
You want me to play? At this time of day?
2:49 that whole thing was fucking nuts.
"at this time of day"
much love ginger
His style is loose and was formed during the jazz era. I think a lot of players today are more regimented or tighter sounding and thus can't relate to a loose old school player like Baker. Still, the guy could do some very innovative/remarkable African style drumming on the kit. He was very original and that is where he gets his legend from (i.e. his innovation). Listen to Live Cream's NSU sometime. I think you'll appreciate him more after that.
I wonder if he goes on utube...watches this an laughs.
2:45 - 3:30 :0 bleeww me awayy just soounnds soo amazinng xDD
I hear that Ginger is still playing some of the same cymbals he had then. So his technique can't be that bad!
that roll on the cymbals at 4:20 ... f'in wicked
Heavy African influence. He had Phil Seamen show him a thing or two.
how the hell could he play on the hi hat, look how far back it is in relation to the snare drum..
I play the guitar. But I never knew the full sound complexity of the drums 'till I saw this genius guy.
Cream - the Greatest Supergroup of all time!!!
Funny how people disrespect this with the benefit of 50 years hindsight. Try comparing this to anything from 1968 or before and the only place your going to find anything close is the jazz world. And don't make me laugh with your Mitch Mitchell and Keith Moon comparisons.
I love seeing this vid again. I saw it once in the 60's and thx to youtube I can see it again. Ginger was/is a drummer of great tones,styles and timings. His use of Jazz/Rock/African odd timings and melodies, opened up many options for drummers in the 60's. In my opinion he was the only rock drummer using the drumset as orchestral instrument back then.He is still a fabulous innovator even today. His son Kofi is a killer drummer technician as well.
I was hoping this would give me some insight into programming a drum machine. I’m in hot water now
The greatest rock-n-roll drummer.
those drums sound beautiful
2:50 at .75x speed 🤯
mitch mitchell for me but he was influenced by this guy
3eyedho - And I accept your apology as well. Peace.
He was why you get all the rock drummers of today, but his roots were in Jazz, whereas Robert wyatt did not go down the rock path but He and Ginger were the pioneers of Drumming in that era, there were other great drummers also. Ginger certainly was born with it.
man.....2:50 when he starts swinging......its the sickest shit ever......i want him for my jazz band!!! hahahaha
What a weird interviewer
RIP Ginger, this clip blows me away, as it did the first time I saw it, many many years ago.
God Bless Ginger. Wow. Only seen this clip once and I kept trying to find it. This has so
many aspects and fundamentals of drumming. He
was and still is a total Master. This is great
stuff. Thanks for sharing with the drumming community. Boy, I need to practice!
I used my cymbals to cover up my fill timing mistakes! Boy, I was bad! I still miss the drums though... the best time I had!
+flagemdown66 So then why don't you start playing again if you enjoyed it so much? I've been playing professionally and teaching for a number of years. I wish I knew where to find students that are older adults who actually want to play. Not that kids don't but it seems like we had more drummers and bands to inspire as than now. Music of today and thus drumming is for the most part pretty boring.
“The keeper I THINK is my left foot.” When his solos reach a crescendo, it sounds like the bombing of Stalingrad.
I saw him live in East London in a jazz club … as The Ginger Baker Trio. He performed Pressed Rat and Warthog. And….a Jazzy version of Sunshine. The point is .. to hear him perform live … was unlike anything I’d ever seen. Because the man could swing.
Pete Baker in '68...single handedly killed almost every drummer ever to grace a stage big time !!!
Pardon me while I smoke this spliff (in english accent)
Rest in peace Ginger 😔
Ginger explains a lot of secrets in his recently re-released video "Master drum technique" which is well worth getting. Bits of it can be seen here on youtube...
Did anyone noticed, that Ginger played Traditional Grip here?
2:55-3:28
Would be very interesting,if there would be an explanation what he's doing here, which technique...
Push- Pull, whatever...
Was Baker into the Moeller, or the Gladstone- Technique, or did'nt he give a f.. about it?
No, if you listen to the Blind Faith album, it sounds great: the recording sucks
2:49 This is the soundtrack to Heaven...🤩🥰😛😵💫😃😄.
3eyedho - Do you not think it is rather finton to describe one who speaks of a band you do not know as speaking another language?
Damn, this guy was good!
Looks like he's eaten alot of acid in his day lol
In beware of mr baker he said he would shoot up Heroin Coke and LSD
According to most junkies, speedballing makes you hallucinate, HARD....throw Lysergic Acid into the mix, at at time when it was legal pre-1966... Jesus
Yep, enough to keep Guatemala high for years.
¡¡¡He is showing how he play AND HE LOOKS UP TO THE JOURNALIST, NOT AT HIS DRUMKIT!!! He may not be God but surely is a genius.
wow, a great jazz drummer rocking!
Great drummers on Ginger Baker...
Charlie Watts says he is the most accomplished drummer to ever come out of England.
John Bonham called him 'astonishing'.
3eyedho - I am sorry that was not my intention. How was I being annoying??
Ginger Baker's a true GIANT of the DRUMS.
well you are certainly on the right track. keep it up and don't get discouraged!
happy playing!!!
HAHAHA!!! he's REALLY stoned!
The Cream song (What A Bringdown) is a 5/4 time with left bass drum keeping the time right hand on cowbell and right foot and right hand playing accents
tell me more
crazy drummer! awesome
Ginger, John Bonham, and Mitch Mitchellson are my idols. Ginger and John are my biggest influences.
Mitchellson?
that look on 0:17 is absolutely quality. legend
Question Does anyone know why Mr Ginger Baker has sign behind himself that sez????
⚡Bird Cage Walk ⚡
I know it historic location in England!!! 😎
He always said he was a jazz drummer and here he shows why. The rhythms he cracks out at 2:50 and 4:03 are just mindblowing. Very few rock drummers could match that level of technique and feel and of course he could play both types of music easily. Fantastic insight.
the interviewer is early AI.
I am always amazed when people compare John Bonham to Ginger. I mean JB is great, but nowhere near Ginger's league... Not many are. Steve Gadd?
Shame Ginger is such an arse. I watched about the first ten mins of that documentary about him and he was clearly horrible so I didn't waste time watching any more
you must be joking...
About John Bonham? I'm not saying that he isn't really good, just Ginger Baker is way better
Try and play that Kiddies!!!
this man is just on another level.
hats off to all the British drummers of the era... but this guy here.... is another type of thing.
anyone coming close on a good day is Mitch Mitchell. on a good day, emphasize
hi there everyone.i've just started out playin the drums & learnt some brilliant stuff watching atrue master play,thanks for the lesson, mr baker.
He started off with 22x11 and 20x11, but that was only for 1966...he then bought a second silver sparkle kit and it had 20x14 and 22x14, sizes he plays to this day
here are his kit sises in the later era of cream: Bass drums were 22x14" and 20x11" Mounted Toms were 12x8" and 13x9" Floor Toms were 14x14" and 16x14" Snare Was a 1940's black Leedy Snare 6.5 x 14". Hope this helps XD
this, boys and girls, is a ROCK STAR. ginger doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves for influencing generations of drummers... including the likes of john henry bonham. the best quote i've ever heard from a drummer came from him: "your job is to make the other guys sound good. that's your gig." if only the young up-and-comers could absorb this type of philosophy, what amazing steps might be taken...
Levels.
well it was the 60s man everyone was stoned ur parents might have been stoned who knows.
that back then was a time of peace cuz the drugs mellowed u out.
Great drummer. I think drugs and alcohol sort of took over his life after a while.
Ginger is just a shy guy, look at his mimics infront of the camara, then watch him play - all alone doing his stuff. BTW he talks like Alec Ferguson, he's an addict too????
The first ever Drum Clinic. The 4 stroke ruff at 1:35 played across all the drums might as well be a magic trick.
he loved speed weed coke and smack. not to mention uppers downers and of course everybodies favorite lady alcohol
yeah man, I think John Bonham had the best combination of attack and overtone. It was kinda straight up the middle there, thats my rule of thumb(generally) for just about everything...
Such a master on the drums
Expense is relative. I've paid different prices for both at different times. Depends on who your buying from. They are quite a bit louder than wood and great live and cutting throught a heavy band. They are tough to record with. They record rather flat sounding. Pinstripe heads help but wood is a better recording kit. They are a little lighter than wood shells but not much. I've recorded and toured with both,had Red,Green, and Amber kits in the Bonzo sizes. Loved em all.
I never understood why he got so much credit on his drumming ....compared with Mitch Mitchell or Mike Shrieve to name just other two drummers from the same generation.....
Probably the greatest drummer in contemporary music, not an affable man to interview except about his craft. Will be missed and extremely difficult to see his style replicated in any form.
love the Scooby Doo toms! awesome...its a shame everyone these days muffles the hell out of drums, ya don't get all that raunchy mid range any more...not as musical and open
ah buddy rich hes class he is what he is! but one time he tryed 2 play funk bajaysus!!!!! wasnt 2 gud!!
3eyedho - have you not heard 'A Finton Warrior' by the Mandroid Wreckhearts?
Ginger is without a doubt one of the best rock drummers if not the best. I have had the hardest time learning his stuff I think of any rock drummer out there. He is just a master...nobody can put this man down in my opinion. Thanks for putting this video up by the way, I may finally start to get his stuff down that he does it in full view. He has unbelievable groove.
Ginger was a force of nature. There has never been and there will never be another one like him.
I would love some of that talent... and if that can't be done I'll have some of his drugs..
well, im not really sure about that, ive read Eric's autobiography and he says Ginger was an heroin addict
How could this nice guy became such a jerk...
Lion Sun, Elephant Moon, Fox Jupiter
Ok...the "kids" think he is better than Buddy Rich but I guess they're young.
his bass drum sounds tuned pretty high
i didnt mean ginger baker lol
i was saying travis barker is over rated lol
Goddamn it, this guy is more high than I am right now, and I'm as baked as it gets for a Saturday afternoon!
i no buddy rich is better ... lol im only foureennn dont diss teens :D lol
yeh man well said i cant say hes bad but hes completely over rated !
Crazy! This dude was way ahead of his time!!
You are right. It was a keyboard mistake.
Now it´s OK.
Two cymbals on one stand, no booms, drummers are so spoilt with equipment these days
omg he freakin awesome, so funny how hes so cool about it too. ahaha legend
3eyed - what about Tutsy McMaughan?
I've heard of Ginger Baker, but who's Ginger Barker?
I've played all my life. MANY different kits, wood and vistalite. I have to disagree. In the 80's and since then due to trying to compete with the low cost of Tama, Pearl etc. Ludwig has turned out some real crap. I'll take anything from say 76 and back. But I also havent played any newer luds, they may have improved
@Kevin Feige AH a You Tube fight starter. Whats the matter Kev, I don't get to have an opinion? And if I do and it differs from yours I MUST therefore suck right? You're So when Guys move from one kit manufacture to another thats just because they love to play right? Has NOTHING to do with the quality does it? The shit that came out of japan in the 60s WHICH I OWNED and was barely playable I should kept and never changed cause I love to play right? When Buddy Rich threw his set of Vox drums out of a second floor window into the top down car of the Vox rep who was coming up to see him it was just because he loved to play right? Wasn't that the drums were shit no matter how good HE could make sound, he didn't like em. Personal preference and opinion is WHY different drums companies EXIST. If all anyone was interested in was playing period a set of practice pads would suffice. You may want to re think what you said here. ANY drummers good or not that doesnt CARE what they play are usually those in the 10 -18 year old category because their parents bought them the kit and they haven't yet experienced anything different. Do YOU fall into that category?
this is a great find there's great knowledge there and much to be learnt!!
Oh dear his flams aren't perfect. tsk tsk.
a band is alsways as good as the drummer is.
Dude, he wasn't stoned. He was coming down from a heroin high.