Ginger Baker was SO much more than just his smoking addiction and continuous mention of it is nothing short of blatant disrespect to an incredible artist.
"Jimi and i became close friends... If I would have found him the night he died, he wouldn't have died....." -Ginger Baker I believe that, Ginger would have saved his life. Hes been there before.
Pure, unscripted comedy - The audience are laughing their heads off right the way through Ginger's interview. He's entertaining people without a drum kit, and without really trying too hard - Legend!!!
He was a spookingly brilliant individual. A nonconformist to this world. Perhaps if more individuals adopted some of his attributes, the world would be in better shape
@@tinkerbell4296 act like the way he is during this interview and see how far it gets you. Being brilliant at something doesn't give you license to act like a cock, especially when the entire event is done to put the spotlight on you.
@@markdinsdale4869 He’s an old and successful man who has made his success in part while acting the way the previous commenter stated. You know that but still typed your comment anyway because you’re a feminine man who likes to waste breathe.
He was a dickhead went off him when he said Bonham and Moonie werent good drummers and couldnt swing a stick, Bonham and moonie were better drummers and better people
I know people try to find any excuse to blame the interviewer, but I mean come on Ginger Baker may have been one of the single greatest drummers out there but he was also an impossible person to have a conversation with
I saw him once when he was a judge at a drum off competition. When it was over I walked up to him and said, "Hi Ginger, I just wanted to shake your hand." I extended my hand and he just stood looking blankly at me.
Apart from being an absolutely brilliant drummer, he is bleddy hard work. If you worked with a bloke like this in an everyday job. You'd probably kill him. Lol
Ginger Baker definitely played the best drum solos - Most drummers just show chops e.g who's got the fastest single stroke roll. Not Ginger-Ginger's solo's were COMPOSITIONAL pieces of percussion music in their own right, which keep the main rhythm or beat going and then decorate and embellish this central, driving pulse with various syconpated, dynamically played explosions - great stuff!!!
hendrix said it best friendship come from music you play bakers like that i love the guy his love for music not people corn ball questions his drumming was great
After watching the movie one thing is for sure. The people who knew him the best and longest did not have anything very complimentary to say about him.
The interviewer got Shot point blank range! First question and Ginger pulled the trigger...boom! 😆 Men! He was a Special Guy, and the most controversial Hellraiser drummer.
I think Ginger Baker is alright. I prefer a person who says exactly what they think. Its alright and I reckon I would probably get along fine with him. If you don't like it then so what? Try not to be so sensitive
Until He breaks your nose with a cane for no reason, like He did to the kid in the documentary. Saying what you feel is one thing, treating everyone around you like S**t is another. The way he treated his own son was just mind blowing!! Nothing cool about It.
I think the difference is that the first question from the audience was just a normal question, whereas the interviewer put words in his mouth and told him how he felt about a certain time, just came across as pretentious and disingenuous
He knew what they wanted... Somebody smiling sweetly and gushing enthusiastically about the lovely africans etc, etc, Ginger aint nobodys GOPHER!!! He gave that Guardianista one hell of hard time. LOL Good for Ginger!!!
If he "just does it" and doesn't care to have it analysed, why did he appear on this kind of programme? I think he's playing a role now. If you're seen as a terminal grump, you can just be a terminal grump and people will accept it.
GreenerHill he's clearly talking about drums not even gigs or interviews. They are always just shoot from the hip, especially when there is someone else asking questions
He feeds off fear and making people feel bad and uncomfortable but he enjoys getting the laughs from the audience. So he is just playing a grumpy sour grape but in fact he craves the attention and laughs. I think he is a very insecure man with loads of issues. Just my take on him.
Sure he is, and he's also the world's greatest drummer. Who and what are you? Clearly not a trained psychologist, so keep you "takes" on people to yourself Hesh..
Ginger is right ...thinking is very overrated One gets Ginger or one doesn't , that's it , period. Like Ginger I also can't stand people who need to have everything spoon fed to them
Gingers not disliking the interviewer but is annoyed he didn't do some research because he had to keep explaining the type of musician he was and the way he approached his music for decades that would be exhausting for anyone and the interviewer didn't need those sycophantic hecklers from the audience giving him the impression that ginger baker had a problem with him personally
He went to Italy in the early 1980's to around 1986, basically abandoned everyone he knew, worked on an Olive farm and lived in a run down house on a hill. Hard Labor is how he quit.
He liveth in Toscana (Italy) best for wine.. beautiful countryside... I believe he did work in a music school as drum teacher( not sure)... Anyway he was the best..
cquilty1well, two out of three ain't bad. he doesn't need charm. and he even used to have that before he got sick. the world isn't a charm school. and you posted this on a video of ginger putting a media knob in his place.
+palsticweapon This miserable, bitter old geriatric dinosaur has wit and intellect??!! Sure. And the earth is flat too... *LOL!!!!* And "before he got sick", say you. Like he got cancer/some illness through no fault of his own/bad luck. I won't mention the fact he's pumped truck loads of heroin into his body or the fact he's a chain smoking junkie if you don't:) Get out of here.
"Get out of here." yeah i will, because you're a fucking braying jackass whose more obnoxious in a single post than baker is in an entire interview, and minus the talent. i would rather put up with his shit than yours any day.
plasticweapon Well if you're into charmless, bitter, miserable geriatric, chain smoking, drug addled, washed up old fucks like baker, then I hope you enjoy your 83rd birthday. For a gift I suggest you ask your erstwhile boyfriend to get you a crash course in basic grammar and writing:) Off you go now grandpa.
Interviewer, "Is great music all about feel?" - LOL I dunno - Is great dentistry all about qualifications and training? Is playing great chess all about tactics and strategy? That has to be one of the DUMBEST questions I've ever heard asked...
great drummer, but then he's just a drummer, what do you expect. he couldn't make it in science or teaching or even as a husband or father. the quote which says it all: "I don't think."
I disagree, drumming requires skill and mental acuity. Not to forget, great physical resilience. For him to play those rich rhythms requires much more effort than stupid syncopated rhythms.
teachers are stupid spare tits, and a lot of scientists are shills or people with tunnel vision. with a drummer, at least you get what you pay for. and what a drummer.
“In the film your time in Africa was obviously very very important to you. Was that when you felt most musically fulfilled?” By opening with a patronising, leading question like this, the interviewer is obviously both expectating and obliging Ginger to play some cosy little game... One thing that should be obvious to anybody about Ginger Baker, is that he's most definitely NOT the sort of person who likes to be patronised - If somebody tries to patronise Ginger, even in a relatively innocent way such as here, he will not respond positively... Ginger Baker has probably felt musically fulfilled for most of his drumming career or being the sort of person he is, he wouldn't have even gone to one single rehearsal. This is ofcourse excluding his mercenary stint with Hawkwind. This interviewer obviously knew NOTHING whatsoever about Ginger Baker or his music career. Why would somebody as blunt and direct as Ginger, suffer this media fool and his mostly stupid questions gladly???
He's probably leading him on because Ginger wouldn't say anything interesting anyway if left to his own devices. If the guy wasn't moaning and bitching like a little diva all the time then he wasn't talking.
sad to always be so belligerent. he just wants everyone to hate him. his inability to take advice from anyone lose his ass over and over and then be an asshole to people was sad.
Wrong. ex: White Room intro 5/4. Ginger Baker had a background as a jazz drummer coming out of the late 40's and 50's one of Englands top jazz and blues drummers... Do some research kiddie!
What a disgusting man! I would love to see him playing next to Buddy Rich.. Rich would wipe the floor under him. Then Baker would have something to howl about.
people who put down his abilities always do it because they don't like his personality. the greats that he played with, drummers and otherwise, gave him credit where it was due (except for buddy).
@@raylittle8607 never heard anybody play better than carl palmer (who's still playing up to his classic standards) but buddy was the best till he came along.
I'm surprised he went that long without a smoke
Ginger Baker was SO much more than just his smoking addiction and continuous mention of it is nothing short of blatant disrespect to an incredible artist.
@@tinkerbell4296 Well, what he said is true my friend.
@@tinkerbell4296Oh Jesus relax buddy!! He was only a drummer! Not a God! ...he was a smoker was he not!? "Blatant disrespect" get a life will you!
His level of contempt and anger makes a Lou Reed interview seem friendly in comparison.
"Jimi and i became close friends... If I would have found him the night he died, he wouldn't have died....." -Ginger Baker I believe that, Ginger would have saved his life. Hes been there before.
I bet they've lost count how many times somebody had to ring an ambulance for Ginger when he overdosed...
Pure, unscripted comedy - The audience are laughing their heads off right the way through Ginger's interview. He's entertaining people without a drum kit, and without really trying too hard - Legend!!!
This guy's on another level. Now he's on another another level.
Tim Wright, I hope so
Ginger Baker is not an easy bloke to have a chat with.
not these days.
He was a spookingly brilliant individual. A nonconformist to this world. Perhaps if more individuals adopted some of his attributes, the world would be in better shape
@@tinkerbell4296 act like the way he is during this interview and see how far it gets you. Being brilliant at something doesn't give you license to act like a cock, especially when the entire event is done to put the spotlight on you.
@@markdinsdale4869
He’s an old and successful man who has made his success in part while acting the way the previous commenter stated. You know that but still typed your comment anyway because you’re a feminine man who likes to waste breathe.
Ginger was such a brilliant drummer absolutely brilliant drummer, he had his own style in the top of all time for sure, RIP Ginger very sad 😔
Rip ginger. You’re forever a legend.
He was a dickhead went off him when he said Bonham and Moonie werent good drummers and couldnt swing a stick, Bonham and moonie were better drummers and better people
I fucking love this guy
I know people try to find any excuse to blame the interviewer, but I mean come on Ginger Baker may have been one of the single greatest drummers out there but he was also an impossible person to have a conversation with
I saw him once when he was a judge at a drum off competition. When it was over I walked up to him and said, "Hi Ginger, I just wanted to shake your hand." I extended my hand and he just stood looking blankly at me.
He clearly had no time for bs
Apart from being an absolutely brilliant drummer, he is bleddy hard work. If you worked with a bloke like this in an everyday job. You'd probably kill him. Lol
If you really want to wind up Ginger just tell him he was on the same level as John Bonham and Keith Moon 😂
Ginger Baker definitely played the best drum solos - Most drummers just show chops e.g who's got the fastest single stroke roll. Not Ginger-Ginger's solo's were COMPOSITIONAL pieces of percussion music in their own right, which keep the main rhythm or beat going and then decorate and embellish this central, driving pulse with various syconpated, dynamically played explosions - great stuff!!!
hendrix said it best friendship come from music you play bakers like that i love the guy his love for music not people corn ball questions his drumming was great
After watching the movie one thing is for sure. The people who knew him the best and longest did not have anything very complimentary to say about him.
I think this was the most light hearted and amusing interview I've seen him in.
Ginger Baker sounds like Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon - "Don't think - FEEL!!!!"
I fully anticipated the following "It is like a finger pointing away to the moon."
I'd like to see him interviewed by Jiminy Glick.
Bill Faris hahhahahah
Best comment of the year
Well..he did say HELLO lol
Those hysterical laughs tho...
The interviewer got Shot point blank range! First question and Ginger pulled the trigger...boom! 😆
Men! He was a Special Guy, and the most controversial Hellraiser drummer.
I think Ginger Baker is alright. I prefer a person who says exactly what they think. Its alright and I reckon I would probably get along fine with him. If you don't like it then so what? Try not to be so sensitive
Until He breaks your nose with a cane for no reason, like He did to the kid in the documentary. Saying what you feel is one thing, treating everyone around you like S**t is another. The way he treated his own son was just mind blowing!! Nothing cool about It.
Ginger had a low tolerance for stupity. I know. I was there.
Baker has a low tolerance of anything.
Are you suggesting that the ignorant, nasty old English tosser was…’ bright ‘ !?
Great !
He was certainly more likable, when he was still on heroin.
Well i think Ginger just cuts through all the bullshit and flashy terms!! That's why he doesn't like questions about nonsensical terms!!
RIP 10/6/19....
This interviewer wanted to belt him lol
Ginger was a fantastic player with a difficult personality. Much like Buddy Rich.
He's quite courteous with the audience but has distain for. The interviewer
I think the difference is that the first question from the audience was just a normal question, whereas the interviewer put words in his mouth and told him how he felt about a certain time, just came across as pretentious and disingenuous
He reminds me of Mark E Smith from The Fall a bit when being interviewed
He knew what they wanted... Somebody smiling sweetly and gushing enthusiastically about the lovely africans etc, etc, Ginger aint nobodys GOPHER!!! He gave that Guardianista one hell of hard time. LOL Good for Ginger!!!
Guy was a cabbage! You could have a better conversation with the cookie monster
Cream was the shit for that style of music, probably always will be
i wonder how far they would have got, if him and blackmore played together..hehe
he wouldn't have put up with blackmore's shit.
Ginger was a Grumpy old gezzer but a Sublime jazz drummer
great drummer/musician but a complete madman
Wow Ginger is a Drummer old school Battle-axe! He's just perfectly detached comfortable numb and uncaring to give you his life's Truth's
Heard he uses a Morphine inhaler!!! That's what I'm fuckin talkin about!!
Curiosity about what DMC mentioned about Ginger Baker on the People's Party podcast + Let's Start with Fela Kuti brought me here.
He sounds like Vader...
TK/TB-41066, out...
Chris Manning Once you hear it, you can’t unhear it.
Top-tier arrogancy presented to a crowd of sycophants.
R.i.p
Interviewer: First I'll ask him about this drumming in S Africa, that will put him in a good mood and the interview will go swimmingly.
interviewer needs to know how to talk to him...
Dylan was also always mercilessly hard on interviewers. Ginger was a talented prick until the end.
If he "just does it" and doesn't care to have it analysed, why did he appear on this kind of programme? I think he's playing a role now. If you're seen as a terminal grump, you can just be a terminal grump and people will accept it.
GreenerHill he's clearly talking about drums not even gigs or interviews. They are always just shoot from the hip, especially when there is someone else asking questions
He feeds off fear and making people feel bad and uncomfortable but he enjoys getting the laughs from the audience. So he is just playing a grumpy sour grape but in fact he craves the attention and laughs. I think he is a very insecure man with loads of issues. Just my take on him.
Sure he is, and he's also the world's greatest drummer. Who and what are you? Clearly not a trained psychologist, so keep you "takes" on people to yourself Hesh..
@@PeterDad60 Don't kid yourself, he's not
and no before you say it I don't think phil collins is
@Stinger4186 You don't influence people by being an asshole, either.
@@georgeswca That's what he was saying...
Is this a John Lydon interview?
john idolizes ginger.
How would he have got on being clean, could he have performed the same without all the drugs?
from the 1980's on, he spent the rest of his life doing just that. as well as the beginning of his career. the more you know.
Ginger is right ...thinking is very overrated
One gets Ginger or one doesn't , that's it , period.
Like Ginger I also can't stand people who need to have everything spoon fed to them
Gingers not disliking the interviewer but is annoyed he didn't do some research because he had to keep explaining the type of musician he was and the way he approached his music for decades that would be exhausting for anyone and the interviewer didn't need those sycophantic hecklers from the audience giving him the impression that ginger baker had a problem with him personally
ginger is lying about his own past. like he does.
i'd ask him how he got off heroin
He went to Italy in the early 1980's to around 1986, basically abandoned everyone he knew, worked on an Olive farm and lived in a run down house on a hill. Hard Labor is how he quit.
Through 16 steps. A year for each one. Haha
He liveth in Toscana (Italy) best for wine.. beautiful countryside... I believe he did work in a music school as drum teacher( not sure)... Anyway he was the best..
RIP Ginger Baker
WHY SUCH ANGER??
shut up.
If he couldn't play drums, is there anybody on the world who would love him? No!
Ginger puts media knobs in their place
+Joes Nicholls No he doesn't. That takes wit, charm and intellect. Or at least one of those qualities.
cquilty1well, two out of three ain't bad. he doesn't need charm. and he even used to have that before he got sick. the world isn't a charm school. and you posted this on a video of ginger putting a media knob in his place.
+palsticweapon This miserable, bitter old geriatric dinosaur has wit and intellect??!!
Sure. And the earth is flat too... *LOL!!!!*
And "before he got sick", say you. Like he got cancer/some illness through no fault of his own/bad luck. I won't mention the fact he's pumped truck loads of heroin into his body or the fact he's a chain smoking junkie if you don't:) Get out of here.
"Get out of here."
yeah i will, because you're a fucking braying jackass whose more obnoxious in a single post than baker is in an entire interview, and minus the talent. i would rather put up with his shit than yours any day.
plasticweapon Well if you're into charmless, bitter, miserable geriatric, chain smoking, drug addled, washed up old fucks like baker, then I hope you enjoy your 83rd birthday.
For a gift I suggest you ask your erstwhile boyfriend to get you a crash course in basic grammar and writing:)
Off you go now grandpa.
Interviewer, "Is great music all about feel?" - LOL I dunno - Is great dentistry all about qualifications and training? Is playing great chess all about tactics and strategy? That has to be one of the DUMBEST questions I've ever heard asked...
Is he really mean or does he just have an odd sense of humor?
Mr Tells it like it is!!!!!!
no, he lied like a rug. but he was a great drummer.
great drummer, but then he's just a drummer, what do you expect. he couldn't make it in science or teaching or even as a husband or father. the quote which says it all: "I don't think."
What do you mean by 'just a drummer'?
I disagree, drumming requires skill and mental acuity. Not to forget, great physical resilience. For him to play those rich rhythms requires much more effort than stupid syncopated rhythms.
teachers are stupid spare tits, and a lot of scientists are shills or people with tunnel vision. with a drummer, at least you get what you pay for. and what a drummer.
Terrible human, but a great muso.
“In the film your time in Africa was obviously very very important to you. Was that when you felt most musically fulfilled?”
By opening with a patronising, leading question like this, the interviewer is obviously both expectating and obliging Ginger to play some cosy little game...
One thing that should be obvious to anybody about Ginger Baker, is that he's most definitely NOT the sort of person who likes to be patronised - If somebody tries to patronise Ginger, even in a relatively innocent way such as here, he will not respond positively...
Ginger Baker has probably felt musically fulfilled for most of his drumming career or being the sort of person he is, he wouldn't have even gone to one single rehearsal. This is ofcourse excluding his mercenary stint with Hawkwind.
This interviewer obviously knew NOTHING whatsoever about Ginger Baker or his music career. Why would somebody as blunt and direct as Ginger, suffer this media fool and his mostly stupid questions gladly???
He's probably leading him on because Ginger wouldn't say anything interesting anyway if left to his own devices. If the guy wasn't moaning and bitching like a little diva all the time then he wasn't talking.
except the interviewer was right based on things GINGER said in the past. he spent his life contradicting himself and denying his past.
sad to always be so belligerent. he just wants everyone to hate him. his inability to take advice from anyone lose his ass over and over and then be an asshole to people was sad.
He plays EVERYTHING in 4/4 time. That's why they call him a rock drummer. He talks like he was with Benny Goodman. It's weird.
no he doesn’t play everything in 4/4 dumbass
Wrong. ex: White Room intro 5/4. Ginger Baker had a background as a jazz drummer coming out of the late 40's and 50's one of Englands top jazz and blues drummers... Do some research kiddie!
Give us an example. A recording. ANYTHING. In which he’s playing jazz. Actual, bona fide jazz. The old wretch was all piss & wind. Ghastly.
What a disgusting man! I would love to see him playing next to Buddy Rich.. Rich would wipe the floor under him. Then Baker would have something to howl about.
Buddy Rich was a prick also.
idiotic comment
people who put down his abilities always do it because they don't like his personality. the greats that he played with, drummers and otherwise, gave him credit where it was due (except for buddy).
@@plasticweapon yes, but you have to admit that no-one could touch Buddy Rich.
@@raylittle8607 never heard anybody play better than carl palmer (who's still playing up to his classic standards) but buddy was the best till he came along.