It's really impressive how much more modern this rifle seems than its manufacture age would imply. Minus a few refinements missing due to late wartime haste, this would not be too out of place amongst rifles in the 60s and 70s, I suppose partially because this thing is basically just a very early G3.
This gun makes me want to do some type of modernized Stg 44 abomination with mlok attachments and rail space for an optic. It has potential for the modern shooting stance with the thumb over bore style grip, high sight access and drop in trigger design.
@@TheGearhead222 Yeah and the 7.62x51 was forced on them. This was 7.92x33, actually even more ahead of its time than the G3 etc. Pretty astonishing the USA and other major NATO members had access to these and STG44s etc and still went ahead with full size rifle cartridges...
@@kamikazemelon787 Thats because NATO's intermediate cartridge became 5.56 in the 70s. It has been suggested in German documents of the period that, given more time 8mm Kurtz would evolve into the eventual 7.62x39 of which the AK-47 utilised which has been suggesting to be a part of the reason why the Russians adopted it. The British and Belgians wanted to adopt .280 as their intermediate right after the war essentially to the point where FN developed a version of the FAL in .280 for trials however concerns about recoil and effectiveness were effectively overruled by the US with 7.62x51 and it became the standard. Perhaps because most of their infantry weapons (M1 Carbine and Garand, Springfield ect) used full rifle cartridges they didn't see the same as the Euros but whatever the case it stuck and became the new standard.
@@southernbear736 it's because they had some .30 cal tradition going and didn't want anything less than a .30 despite .280 british being a much superior cartridge for an assault rifle
Ordinary weapons channels have got their charm; people who like their guns, shoot their guns etc. But this channel here, really appeals to me much more so than any of the other channels you can so easily find here on youtube. Not only have you done EXTENSIVE research on the weapons you present in your videos - but it's very evident you have a great interest in not only the shooting capabilities of the weapons, but also the history! I'm very thankful for your channel, not only have you made it very interesting, but you talk about every aspect of the gun - even myths which certain people have romantizised about the guns. Most importantly, after watching one of your videos, i never have further questions! :)
Very true. I never shot a weapon in my life. I dont plan do own a weapon in my life. (Its very easy to own a weapon on my country if you can show that you have a legit need for one) But this channel is suuuuper interesting. How the history played out, what odd ideas some people tried, how the design of arms changed over the decades etc. love it.
The Judgemental Cat That what he does - smashes things. And? That is the thing, he has nothing more to offer beyond that. I rather lean to Taofledermaus for the smashing.
His degree in engineering certainly adds to his extensive knowledge. A lot of those other channels regurgitate the same information and then have a shooting segment with exploding watermelons. Ian doesn’t even need to fire the weapons to keep me interested.
@@richardmckinney4963 Uh no....Germany wanted to build the FAL under license (after buying some from FN), but FN said no due to a little animosity from WWI and II-BTW, I rebuilt a POS CAI CETME (when that's all one could cheaply buy) using a CETME armorer's kit and an online gunsmith. Also rebuilt a FAL using an online gunsmith. The FAL is MUCH more elegant, better balanced, has better ergonomics, IMHO and most importantly, gas dampening for the relatively light tilting bolt and carrier. Shooting the CETME in 7.62 NATO is like shooting a shotgun, as there's very little dampening, the heavy bolt carrier slams into the buffer assembly and the shell case is mangled and violently ejected around 5-10 feet! I use a POF G3 shell deflector clipped onto my CETME clone which helps. Also installed + .-4mm rollers to increase the already good headspace (after replacing the bolt and bolt carrier)-John in Texas
@@TheGearhead222 It's NATOs fault. The Stg 44 and this "45" are chambered in 7.92×33mm Kurz and at least the Stg 44 is doing well! The CETME and the G3 are chambered in 7.62×51mm NATO due to this stupid NATO standard for small arms. The Stg 44 design is not really made for this caliber. And as we know today, smaller calibers are more practical in most cases.
great to see the melting between HK and Mauser in this rifle. I live 30 minutes from oberndorf and i have visited the small home-museuum of oberndorf. They have basically every mauser and Hk gun ever produced, including flak cannons, c96 in every stadium, up to the hk416 and mg4. Entrance is 2 bucks so whoever comes by should give it a look. They also have ancient swords and tools found in the area as well as completely stocked rooms of the different periods in time. Im a hunter here in germany and own an MR223, which i thoroughly enjoy.
Its like discovering a cheap reliable flying car that runs on rechargeable batteries that use little energy , and then spending the next fourteen years building only gas guzzling expensive land SUVs
Garand did not get any royalties, because he did not own any patents. All his work was done as an employee of Springfield Arsenal, and so all intellectual property relating to his work on the rifle was owned by the US government.
Well, roller delayed actions have their quirks, so gas operation just seemed like a good idea... and after all the Garand won the war, the German's lost with these things.
The collections of these enthusiast in Malta is astounding. I'm so happy that you got the opportunity to put some of these to 'film' some probably for the first time, and bring them to us.
“On June 1, 1945, the Mauser Train was discovered by a joint British and American CIOS (Combined Intelligence Objectives Subcommittee) team and the contents shipped to the US Army Ordnance Depot 0644 in Paris, France. The spoils were supposed to be divided equally between US and British representatives on the CIOS team, but once the shipment arrived in Paris, the contents of the British portion were rifled through, and anything that looked rare, collectible or saleable was stolen by the US officers who were in charge of the Depot. This action sparked a high-level intergovernmental dispute , the British senior officer in charge of the Mauser-Werke CIOS team, Group Captain Bullock, complaining bitterly to the CIOS Chairman about the missing material, as well as the behaviour of the US Army Officers at Depot 0644 and the detrimental effect the thievery had on CIOS objectives.” Mauser Pistolen by Weaver, Speed and Schmid.
Another amazing video Ian. Thank you so much to the collector who shared their rifle with us viewers. You have an amazing piece of history and I want to that say how much myself, as a viewer, appreciates you sharing it. It is likely the closest any of us will ever get to seeing such a rare and exotic (and important) piece of firearms history and development. Not a "forgotten" weapon, but one of a vanishingly rare breed. Outstanding! Well done Malta! Every time I watch such a video I am further convinced that my monthly Patreon subscription is being VERY well spent!
*ROFL* - you just manage to pull that joke in a very German way. If you ever come across Germany and meet me, I owe you a beer. If not for the joke, then at least for the very nice presentation of weapons you do on your channel. Keep up the good and interesting work.
Odds are no, as he will probably find one in the WTS Koblenz, which holds so many odd prototypes from the 1800s to now I think it makes the Pattern Room look like Mr. AR's Glock cave. Imagine the Aberdeen Ordnance Museum's collection of firearms before it was disbanded. Multiply that by five. Now tack on tanks, planes, firearms, and everything in between and you have Koblenz.
I just want to see him review more Yugoslavian guns, I find them so fascinating. I'd send in my M72nb1 if I knew he'd want to look at a balkan war RPK, hah.
You should go back and kick him in the shins, he has costed you a large part of your time on earth... I still regret the day I found this channel, oh the money I could have made if I worked the hours I have spent on this channel... :)
Gun Jesus, thank you for showing us the path. I love the videos, have been amazed by arms tech for my entire life and spent much time in childhood shooting, cleaning, and learning about firearms with my grandpa. Though I don't own many, and haven't even shot in years, I love the historical connections and anecdotes you share about the guns and especially the gun makers. Thanks for sharing all you know, it's very fascinating.
It's because the manufacturers were private companies, they knew that once the war is over they have to continue doing business. No matter of the outcome, their money was safe in Swiss accounts. So they used the government funds to improve on their designs, until the Allies were literally entering their shop. Of course, it was preferably if the said Allies weren't of the Red persuasion...
Matthew Kriebel Except Commiefornia; where having ANY detachable 10 rnd. magazine is illegal ( redesign with Bolt cover removable, welded magazine, and stripper clips were Okay (but Not Garand, which had an evil bayonet mount) Go figure.
David Porowski The Ban on bayonet mounts saved thousands of american Lifes!! just think at all these Gang related Bajonet Charges in Detroit, Chicago or Baltimore that cant happen anymore! :D
father; the G3 son came late when the aged MP45 met the very young and beautiful Miss Bundeswehr. She found no one more attractive than the MP45 and today Africans can still enjoy the aged G3.
Your best video so far. Have you ever noticed the "Feel" of a StG-44 and a M-16 are quite similar? Although the weight is different, the reach and sight height are remarkably similar. I don't think this is a coincidence. Without a doubt the most natural pointing "Assault Rifle" designs. I would presume the StG-45 is the same. Thank You for the information.
I wish I could like this video more than once. Several times, actually! This is one of the most interesting and unique guns (and story behind this particular gun) you've showcased.
Heckler & Koch has a thing on developing their products from lesser known guns. For example; the design of the G3, the HK33, and the MP5 came from the StG 45M prototype, while the design of the G36 and the MP7 came from the AR-18. And the HK416 is a hybridization of the AR-18 and the M4.
Very cool of you to mention Henk Visser, he was one of the few European gun collectors. He had so many guns (dating 1700- now) that he supplied musea with over thousand extremely rare fire arms sold for millions of euro’s! Kind regards
Thank you for making these videos. I am a history buff myself. This was very informative. I really enjoy your comments about the history of the weapons. I could never get enough of that. I am especially interested in the Walter PP, PPK and Luger pistols. My father fought in WWII Pacific campaigns US Army. I was in the 82nd. Airborne back in the day. At that time we were allowed to have a personal weapon with permission from the company commander that had to be kept in the company armory. We could sign them out on weekends to shoot which we did at Ft. Bragg N.C. I was age 17 at that time. I went home, (a small town in the south). My Father took me to the only Western Auto store in the town. The owner was an Army veteran who made the landing at Omaha beach. My Father helped me purchase a Colt Combat Commander in 9 mm if I remember the cost was about $125.00. The store owner said I want to show you something. He went back to a safe and took out a German Luger pistol. The Luger was in absolutely mint condition. He had the holster with the weapon. He said that he and some members of his platoon found a horse drawn wagon covered over in tree limbs shoved up against a hedgerow. The wagon was covered over in a tarp under the brush. They uncovered the wagon and found it was full of new Lugers still in boxes. They were all infantry models. They all took one from the wagon and many were still left in the wagon when they moved on from that location. The store owner allowed me to hold and look at the weapon. He pointed out that it had matching serial numbers including the extra magazine. It was beautiful. He also said he never fired it and just kept it for all those years. I am sure he like my Father has passed away by now. I cannot help but wonder what happened to that Luger. Best regards and hope you, family and friends stay safe as well as your company employees. Much respect sent, 👍🇺🇸
As a German, I have to shiver every time you say "Gerat". In the very beginning, you said it correctly, why did you change? But apart from that, I love all of your videos. Very informative and lots of background info that is hard to find elsewhere.
Sorry, as a descendant of many former mauser emloyees i gotta tell you that mauser, or even oberndorf was never overrun by US-troops. It was the french - or let's say their african auxiliary troops commanded by few french officers - occupiing the southwestern part of germany. A fact which made general eisenhower insane and almost caused him to stop the supply of the french troops (which were only able to to survive with american aid or plunder and arson). The train you spoke of was not only carriing some plans but the entire r&d-departement of mauser including almost all impotant engineers trying to escape from french rage. This train was stopped by us-troops in the ötztal (austria). These discoveries forced them to send special troops into the french occupied zone to oberndorf. Unfortunately american engineers were not able to understand the principle of a roller delayed blowback at that time and so the french were allowed to disassemble and blow up almost the whole factory and to force most engineers to “work“ for them. I know about your affinity to the french. But please come to our part of germany and listen to the truth about those frog eating surrender monkeys. Sincerely yours Bertl
The Father of Heckler & Koch roller delayed Rifles and SMGs. Magnificent. Could you imagine if the U.S. Military had the foresight to adopt this rifle design as a war trophy and we were still using it today as the standard infantry rifle? We would just have to change the caliber, though, obviously. 'Cause 'Merica.
I still don't understand the dislikes against video's of this wonderful channel. Thanks for another professional, objective review/overview of a historic firearm, Ian.
I might have misunderstood it, but i thought that the Gerat 06 was still roller locked, and it was this gun that was bolt bouncing and led them to develop the 06H with the H actually meaning half-locked.
I am really impressed by the knowledge and expertise shown here. I spent 12 years on tanks (19K) so got pretty good at taking a M2 apart and putting it back together but .. wow .. I am simply in awe at this gentlemen's ability.
It's quite odd that with all these very smart and forward thinking features they went with such a short sight radius. Probably the same dust cover problem like with the AK, although there is a solid piece of receiver behind it to put a rear sight on
It was proof-fired by Mauser. I think that makes it pretty much safer than many other guns that Ian has shot so far. On the other hand, I don’t think the current owner of the gun would appreciate that…
Forgive me for saying, but Malta has done an excellent job of conservatorship with their weapons collection. Everything you've shown from their collection appears in very fine condition. Complete and functional.
It is really cool that the original trunnion is still around. You would figure it's hardness would have been tested and potentially destroyed while checking for brittleness. Great video!
Watching this video just makes me want an HK33. Then I remembered how much they cost, along with how much the magazines cost. Then I think "screw H&K" for not making a better 5.56. Then I go back to watching Ian show me a neat firearm.
Just watched the old video on this rifle earlier today, thinking I wish it could be redone with better audio and video equipment. Not as much of a coincidence as it sounds though, I've watched that video quite a few times by now...nice to see a new video on this piece though. :)
A green CETME-L from Marcolmar is a bucket-list gun for me, for exactly this awesome development history (I find that basic form to have a kind of industrial beauty).
I love the roller lock system. It allowed me to prove to my dad that a semi-automatic rifle can be quite reliable. In fact from the time I bought my HK-91 around 1980 until today, shooting many thousands of rounds, I haven’t had a malfunction yet! And it served me well mule deer hunting in the Shirley mountains of Wyoming.😊 Great design!
I am used a G3 during my military service -80s, in Sweden. Recognized the "gadget" (cartridge should sit in the barrel. "16:30 middle row on the far left"). I like the system, no tubes to keep clean, just a pressed box to wipe! I will definitely again recognize this ancestor of the G3! {google translate}
"Gerät" is generalizing word for a device or apparatus, that can have any kind of funktion - it could be a snow plough or a radio or a sand blaster or God knows what else. In WW2 the miltary used this word extensively in the same fashion, perhaps to confuse the enemy? So they named huge missiles "Gerät" just as well as a assault rifle. Sure nobody would notice the difference... :)
Rollerlock, flap lock, bolt system, delayed blow back system.. it would be great to devote a video to explain/demonstrate these various design features.
"Full Circle" sells out in five, four, three... It's funny; I'd just been thinking about this gun last night, and wondering if we'd ever get a new video of it. I woke up to a very nice surprise!
Ian, your first pronouncing was quite spot-on. It's being pronounced a bit like "ge-raid", but with a hard "t" at the end. Not nitpicking, I love your videos!
@@fidelismiles7439 Yup to this day I am puzzled why the british and americans didn't atleast temporally with german until atleast bolshevism was defeated in europe
It gets even weirder when you find out that USA and UK actually sent a small force to aid the White Knights during the 1917 Revolution. "Polar Bears" was the nickname these men received.
@@fidelismiles7439 Watch the world war 2 channel, if you're not already, it was such a confusing time. My Grandfather was originally from Germany, and he feared for years what was to become of not only his homeland, but his new home also, the USA. What a time it was. Hind sight, and never really getting the entire truth.
That's crazy i thought this model was actually made BEFORE the STG-44, as i wasn't aware of the actual model name and to me it doesn't look as pretty compared to the 44. That's why i adore this channel, you learn something new all the time.
Hi Ian, have you ever been at the Mauser Museum in Oberndorf Germany ? nice little Museum still existing in old original Mauser Works keep up the good work ! cheers from germany
Max Mustermann Didnt know they have that museum on oberndorf, can I have their address? (Since it's not registered on google) I would like to add it to my to visit list on germany ;)
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It's really impressive how much more modern this rifle seems than its manufacture age would imply. Minus a few refinements missing due to late wartime haste, this would not be too out of place amongst rifles in the 60s and 70s, I suppose partially because this thing is basically just a very early G3.
@Deniz Metinoğlu T. Great in 9mm-sux in 7.62 NATO. Needs a pintel or bipod for full auto accuracy-John in Texas
This gun makes me want to do some type of modernized Stg 44 abomination with mlok attachments and rail space for an optic. It has potential for the modern shooting stance with the thumb over bore style grip, high sight access and drop in trigger design.
@@TheGearhead222 Yeah and the 7.62x51 was forced on them. This was 7.92x33, actually even more ahead of its time than the G3 etc. Pretty astonishing the USA and other major NATO members had access to these and STG44s etc and still went ahead with full size rifle cartridges...
@@kamikazemelon787 Thats because NATO's intermediate cartridge became 5.56 in the 70s. It has been suggested in German documents of the period that, given more time 8mm Kurtz would evolve into the eventual 7.62x39 of which the AK-47 utilised which has been suggesting to be a part of the reason why the Russians adopted it.
The British and Belgians wanted to adopt .280 as their intermediate right after the war essentially to the point where FN developed a version of the FAL in .280 for trials however concerns about recoil and effectiveness were effectively overruled by the US with 7.62x51 and it became the standard. Perhaps because most of their infantry weapons (M1 Carbine and Garand, Springfield ect) used full rifle cartridges they didn't see the same as the Euros but whatever the case it stuck and became the new standard.
@@southernbear736 it's because they had some .30 cal tradition going and didn't want anything less than a .30 despite .280 british being a much superior cartridge for an assault rifle
That safety absolutely screams H&K
uhm no. it screams CETME Model C, in which its design was modified by H&K engineers for the Bundeswehr under the designation "G3"
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 Jesus don't shit yourself
@@davus2250 mission failed
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 You must be fun with your frie- wait you don’t have any.
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 achuchuahcually
Ordinary weapons channels have got their charm; people who like their guns, shoot their guns etc.
But this channel here, really appeals to me much more so than any of the other channels you can so easily find here on youtube.
Not only have you done EXTENSIVE research on the weapons you present in your videos - but it's very evident you have a great interest in not only the shooting capabilities of the weapons, but also the history!
I'm very thankful for your channel, not only have you made it very interesting, but you talk about every aspect of the gun - even myths which certain people have romantizised about the guns.
Most importantly, after watching one of your videos, i never have further questions! :)
Very true. I never shot a weapon in my life. I dont plan do own a weapon in my life. (Its very easy to own a weapon on my country if you can show that you have a legit need for one) But this channel is suuuuper interesting. How the history played out, what odd ideas some people tried, how the design of arms changed over the decades etc. love it.
As long as it's not DemoRanch or Hickok45 who are total idiots I am okay.
That is what I hate about the RUclips gun community, a lot of them are partisan idiots.
The Judgemental Cat That what he does - smashes things. And? That is the thing, he has nothing more to offer beyond that. I rather lean to Taofledermaus for the smashing.
His degree in engineering certainly adds to his extensive knowledge. A lot of those other channels regurgitate the same information and then have a shooting segment with exploding watermelons. Ian doesn’t even need to fire the weapons to keep me interested.
You can clearly see the mp5 and g3 design and just HK in general throughout the gun .
Ans the CETME
Also the FN FAL.
@@richardmckinney4963 Uh no....Germany wanted to build the FAL under license (after buying some from FN), but FN said no due to a little animosity from WWI and II-BTW, I rebuilt a POS CAI CETME (when that's all one could cheaply buy) using a CETME armorer's kit and an online gunsmith. Also rebuilt a FAL using an online gunsmith. The FAL is MUCH more elegant, better balanced, has better ergonomics, IMHO and most importantly, gas dampening for the relatively light tilting bolt and carrier. Shooting the CETME in 7.62 NATO is like shooting a shotgun, as there's very little dampening, the heavy bolt carrier slams into the buffer assembly and the shell case is mangled and violently ejected around 5-10 feet! I use a POF G3 shell deflector clipped onto my CETME clone which helps. Also installed + .-4mm rollers to increase the already good headspace (after replacing the bolt and bolt carrier)-John in Texas
@@TheGearhead222
It's NATOs fault. The Stg 44 and this "45" are chambered in 7.92×33mm Kurz and at least the Stg 44 is doing well!
The CETME and the G3 are chambered in 7.62×51mm NATO due to this stupid NATO standard for small arms.
The Stg 44 design is not really made for this caliber.
And as we know today, smaller calibers are more practical in most cases.
@@lars9925 Don't blame NATO, blame the US Army for not adopting 7x43mm (.280 British).
I think this might be the most excited I've ever been to see a gun again on here.
I recently discovered this channel and am hooked. This could've been on the History Channel 10 years ago before it became Pawn Stars Network.
TheLouisianan or the military channel before it became the atrocious piece of shit “American hero’s channel”. Pathetic.
What an amazing looking gun for 1945.
Colonel Ed that bakalite thing right? So much on it is manly and classy.
that ribbed barrel shroud looks very german
Wow a normal comment
From the looks alone, I'd still prefer the StG 44
@@supasoljas7824, I agree there is just something about the stg 44’s look that gets me
great to see the melting between HK and Mauser in this rifle. I live 30 minutes from oberndorf and i have visited the small home-museuum of oberndorf. They have basically every mauser and Hk gun ever produced, including flak cannons, c96 in every stadium, up to the hk416 and mg4. Entrance is 2 bucks so whoever comes by should give it a look. They also have ancient swords and tools found in the area as well as completely stocked rooms of the different periods in time. Im a hunter here in germany and own an MR223, which i thoroughly enjoy.
I was there May 2017. They were closed that day. :(
It's amazing how well preserved this firearm is, it practically looks new.
Yeah as he said it was basically made new from parts and blueprints then put into a collection case. So it actually is a brand new old gun hahaha
US Army gets access to this design in 1945. Fourteen years later.... adopts M14.
Mr. Garand was still a player and like Allin before him, wasn't about to let anything interfere with his patent royalty checks. :)
Its like discovering a cheap reliable flying car that runs on rechargeable batteries that use little energy , and then spending the next fourteen years building only gas guzzling expensive land SUVs
Garand did not get any royalties, because he did not own any patents. All his work was done as an employee of Springfield Arsenal, and so all intellectual property relating to his work on the rifle was owned by the US government.
Hindsight is 20/20.
Well, roller delayed actions have their quirks, so gas operation just seemed like a good idea... and after all the Garand won the war, the German's lost with these things.
I love how he didn't have an auction house or lot to plug, so he just plugged the entire country of Malta as a gun rights haven for EU viewers.
I don't even own guns or shoot tguns at a range. I just love the history behind them and their development. Love your videos dude, keep it up.
The collections of these enthusiast in Malta is astounding. I'm so happy that you got the opportunity to put some of these to 'film' some probably for the first time, and bring them to us.
I feel like Ian taking apart guns is like those slime or toy channels for kids, but for adults
guns are toys
masterworm2 But with toys that have a history.
“On June 1, 1945, the Mauser Train was discovered by a joint British and American CIOS (Combined Intelligence Objectives Subcommittee) team and the contents shipped to the US Army Ordnance Depot 0644 in Paris, France. The spoils were supposed to be divided equally between US and British representatives on the CIOS team, but once the shipment arrived in Paris, the contents of the British portion were rifled through, and anything that looked rare, collectible or saleable was stolen by the US officers who were in charge of the Depot. This action sparked a high-level intergovernmental dispute , the British senior officer in charge of the Mauser-Werke CIOS team, Group Captain Bullock, complaining bitterly to the CIOS Chairman about the missing material, as well as the behaviour of the US Army Officers at Depot 0644 and the detrimental effect the thievery had on CIOS objectives.” Mauser Pistolen by Weaver, Speed and Schmid.
i bet the yank answered with"never mind the bullocks..."
@@koenvangeleuken2853 Americans don't say bollocks lmao
American officers seeing the weapon depot; Finder's keeper's!
@ bruh
U.S.officers- "what part kits"?🤣
The extra details about its assembly still make this one of THE coolest guns you've ever shown us...
Another amazing video Ian. Thank you so much to the collector who shared their rifle with us viewers. You have an amazing piece of history and I want to that say how much myself, as a viewer, appreciates you sharing it. It is likely the closest any of us will ever get to seeing such a rare and exotic (and important) piece of firearms history and development. Not a "forgotten" weapon, but one of a vanishingly rare breed. Outstanding! Well done Malta! Every time I watch such a video I am further convinced that my monthly Patreon subscription is being VERY well spent!
It's an honor to be able to comment this close to this historical beauty, thanks for your work Ian. Arguably more important now than ever.
Sound kinda funny to say that Americans liberated German factory from the Germans :P
As Americans, anything we take is by definition liberated. :)
👍 lol
*ROFL* - you just manage to pull that joke in a very German way. If you ever come across Germany and meet me, I owe you a beer. If not for the joke, then at least for the very nice presentation of weapons you do on your channel. Keep up the good and interesting work.
We deliver democracy one .50 BMG at a time!
swietoslaw the act of holding foreign territory is occupation. The act of eliminating defending forces from a piece of land is liberation.
Der Gerät 06H, bleibt schweißfrei, im Geschäft.
Der Gerät schläft nie.
Nicolas Buyens - der Gerät makes FleischSalat of your enemys 😂
@ Hoplit: DER gerät ins schwitzen !!! Spass bei Seite, guckst Du hier: ruclips.net/video/kIJC-JXJVyU/видео.html (der Gerät, das Original von TV Total)
Der Gerät schneidet Döner fleischfrei ;)
According to Google Translate this meant:
"The device 06H, remains sweat-free, in business.
The device never sleeps."
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Bob Smith still wondering..?
I think this Maltese trip may just be my favorite trip since I started watching in 2016...
Will it stand in that place when we will see the trip for the collection containing the G11 ?
Odds are no, as he will probably find one in the WTS Koblenz, which holds so many odd prototypes from the 1800s to now I think it makes the Pattern Room look like Mr. AR's Glock cave. Imagine the Aberdeen Ordnance Museum's collection of firearms before it was disbanded. Multiply that by five. Now tack on tanks, planes, firearms, and everything in between and you have Koblenz.
I just want to see him review more Yugoslavian guns, I find them so fascinating.
I'd send in my M72nb1 if I knew he'd want to look at a balkan war RPK, hah.
a fan recommended this channel to me :) thanks great stuff folk
You should go back and kick him in the shins, he has costed you a large part of your time on earth... I still regret the day I found this channel, oh the money I could have made if I worked the hours I have spent on this channel... :)
Gun Jesus, thank you for showing us the path. I love the videos, have been amazed by arms tech for my entire life and spent much time in childhood shooting, cleaning, and learning about firearms with my grandpa. Though I don't own many, and haven't even shot in years, I love the historical connections and anecdotes you share about the guns and especially the gun makers. Thanks for sharing all you know, it's very fascinating.
I live in Malta too, and there are some serious collectors with some fantastic weapons.
“WW2”, “Mauser”, “H&K”, “STG”, “Gerat”!!! Holy hell, that title made my eyeballs explode.
It’s actually „Gerät“, meaning „device“ or „tool“. Device in this case. I was confused when Ian said „geraht“. Pronunciation is totally wrong.
Dang, this trip to Malta sure uncovered some treasures
Proper unicorn gun then?
I’m constantly amazed at the quality of the firearms in the Maltese collections. Outstanding!
Still one of the single most interesting firearms you've ever covered, Ian. The story on this one always blows me away.
Even when staring defeat in the face they still made beautiful guns.
It's because the manufacturers were private companies, they knew that once the war is over they have to continue doing business. No matter of the outcome, their money was safe in Swiss accounts. So they used the government funds to improve on their designs, until the Allies were literally entering their shop. Of course, it was preferably if the said Allies weren't of the Red persuasion...
10 round magazine? No muzzle device? Take away full auto, and you could actually own this in New York or New Jersey
Sorry....NYS "SAFE" law,....pistol grip.....FAIL.......
Matthew Kriebel
Except Commiefornia; where having ANY detachable 10 rnd. magazine is illegal ( redesign with Bolt cover removable, welded magazine, and stripper clips were Okay (but Not Garand, which had an
evil bayonet mount) Go figure.
David Porowski Put a grip wrap on the pistol grip and you're golden.
David Porowski
The Ban on bayonet mounts saved thousands of american Lifes!! just think at all these Gang related Bajonet Charges in Detroit, Chicago or Baltimore that cant happen anymore! :D
I'll take mine with the NY Giants paint job
Gerät actually means device.
Thank you. My High School German is a loooong time ago.
Like "Obyekt" in Russian, a general phrase for prototypes and one-offs.
Also pronounce it like you'd say the number 8 with a cold (i.e. more from the nose).
you can use the word "Gerät" also for a very well build women. :)
Gerät ist great
That’s a pretty sweet G3 you have there, Gun Jesus.
A joke on Ian’s distaste for G3 rifles.
After serving 5 years with HK G3 A5, this gun has a lot in common. This is the HK G3 grandfather!
father; the G3 son came late when the aged MP45 met the very young and beautiful Miss Bundeswehr. She found no one more attractive than the MP45 and today Africans can still enjoy the aged G3.
A bit og grandfather
I haven't watched 1/4 of your videos, but this one is by far the coolest for its intense context.
Your best video so far. Have you ever noticed the "Feel" of a StG-44 and a M-16 are quite similar? Although the weight is different, the reach and sight height are remarkably similar. I don't think this is a coincidence. Without a doubt the most natural pointing "Assault Rifle" designs. I would presume the StG-45 is the same. Thank You for the information.
I wish I could like this video more than once. Several times, actually! This is one of the most interesting and unique guns (and story behind this particular gun) you've showcased.
Heckler & Koch has a thing on developing their products from lesser known guns.
For example; the design of the G3, the HK33, and the MP5 came from the StG 45M prototype, while the design of the G36 and the MP7 came from the AR-18. And the HK416 is a hybridization of the AR-18 and the M4.
This is so freaking cool, I love seeing videos like this. Thanks Ian !
Very cool of you to mention Henk Visser, he was one of the few European gun collectors. He had so many guns (dating 1700- now) that he supplied musea with over thousand extremely rare fire arms sold for millions of euro’s!
Kind regards
Great story, great delivery, great subject matter, lovely rifle. Thank you.
Thank you for making these videos. I am a history buff myself. This was very informative. I really enjoy your comments about the history of the weapons. I could never get enough of that. I am especially interested in the Walter PP, PPK and Luger pistols. My father fought in WWII Pacific campaigns US Army. I was in the 82nd. Airborne back in the day. At that time we were allowed to have a personal weapon with permission from the company commander that had to be kept in the company armory. We could sign them out on weekends to shoot which we did at Ft. Bragg N.C. I was age 17 at that time. I went home, (a small town in the south). My Father took me to the only Western Auto store in the town. The owner was an Army veteran who made the landing at Omaha beach. My Father helped me purchase a Colt Combat Commander in 9 mm if I remember the cost was about $125.00. The store owner said I want to show you something. He went back to a safe and took out a German Luger pistol. The Luger was in absolutely mint condition. He had the holster with the weapon. He said that he and some members of his platoon found a horse drawn wagon covered over in tree limbs shoved up against a hedgerow. The wagon was covered over in a tarp under the brush. They uncovered the wagon and found it was full of new Lugers still in boxes. They were all infantry models. They all took one from the wagon and many were still left in the wagon when they moved on from that location. The store owner allowed me to hold and look at the weapon. He pointed out that it had matching serial numbers including the extra magazine. It was beautiful. He also said he never fired it and just kept it for all those years. I am sure he like my Father has passed away by now. I cannot help but wonder what happened to that Luger. Best regards and hope you, family and friends stay safe as well as your company employees. Much respect sent, 👍🇺🇸
The ergonomics of this are pretty good. A high grip on the grip, fairly straight trigger pull and raised sights. Nice.
The person standing just out of frame on the right is exceptionally still.
I find the mechanics and engineering of this gun very pleasing for some reason. A two piece receiver with stamped rails.
As a German, I have to shiver every time you say "Gerat". In the very beginning, you said it correctly, why did you change?
But apart from that, I love all of your videos. Very informative and lots of background info that is hard to find elsewhere.
Such a cool gun with a rich history thank you for bringing it to us!
Sorry, as a descendant of many former mauser emloyees i gotta tell you that mauser, or even oberndorf was never overrun by US-troops. It was the french - or let's say their african auxiliary troops commanded by few french officers - occupiing the southwestern part of germany. A fact which made general eisenhower insane and almost caused him to stop the supply of the french troops (which were only able to to survive with american aid or plunder and arson). The train you spoke of was not only carriing some plans but the entire r&d-departement of mauser including almost all impotant engineers trying to escape from french rage. This train was stopped by us-troops in the ötztal (austria). These discoveries forced them to send special troops into the french occupied zone to oberndorf. Unfortunately american engineers were not able to understand the principle of a roller delayed blowback at that time and so the french were allowed to disassemble and blow up almost the whole factory and to force most engineers to “work“ for them.
I know about your affinity to the french. But please come to our part of germany and listen to the truth about those frog eating surrender monkeys.
Sincerely yours
Bertl
Bleib sachlich , lass die frösche frösche sein.
Very cool story, very cool gun, much appreciated both being shared here, thanks for that, always interesting explanations.
Praise be gun jesus for another new sermon
marlangelXXVIII *coughs*
Praise be!
Ali bless you
To partake in the anointed rem oil, in spite of the great "What the Heck".
All hail!
The Father of Heckler & Koch roller delayed Rifles and SMGs.
Magnificent.
Could you imagine if the U.S. Military had the foresight to adopt this rifle design as a war trophy and we were still using it today as the standard infantry rifle?
We would just have to change the caliber, though, obviously.
'Cause 'Merica.
Love these guns! the name, the looks!
Used a AG3 (Norwegian G3) and MP5 during my Army service. This one has many fascinating similarities. Thanks for a nice vid!
I still don't understand the dislikes against video's of this wonderful channel.
Thanks for another professional, objective review/overview of a historic firearm, Ian.
Stellar stuff Ian! Keep up the awesome work. Amazing content, history, and education!
I might have misunderstood it, but i thought that the Gerat 06 was still roller locked, and it was this gun that was bolt bouncing and led them to develop the 06H with the H actually meaning half-locked.
I am really impressed by the knowledge and expertise shown here. I spent 12 years on tanks (19K) so got pretty good at taking a M2 apart and putting it back together but .. wow .. I am simply in awe at this gentlemen's ability.
Really great. Keep up the good work.
You've just been knocking it out of the park lately.
It's quite odd that with all these very smart and forward thinking features they went with such a short sight radius. Probably the same dust cover problem like with the AK, although there is a solid piece of receiver behind it to put a rear sight on
The Springfield Armory was the first place I ever saw this (or any StG-44 variant) in person. Great info as always.
Nice! They even thought of a Canadian legal magazine!
Thanks Ian one the the very best overviews of a weapon I have seen
Severely disappointed of the lack of live firing :(
But considering this is literally an antique, perhaps that's not the best idea.
It was proof-fired by Mauser. I think that makes it pretty much safer than many other guns that Ian has shot so far. On the other hand, I don’t think the current owner of the gun would appreciate that…
True.
And IIRC Ian did fire one of these some years back. One of his previous intros had a snippet of him using one of these, I believe.
I think the gun in the old intro was a StG 44 (or one of the precursor models).
Here is a video on Ian's channel firing a repro one watch?v=NimNMdjmYX0
It is worth over $200,000 on auction. Possibly infinite at auction. A real live clean usable STG45. I just got a woodie saying that.
Forgive me for saying, but Malta has done an excellent job of conservatorship with their weapons collection. Everything you've shown from their collection appears in very fine condition. Complete and functional.
For a second I was like, "who's this fool in the shot on the right holdin' a scroll?"
The missing link of modern infantry rifles! (The influences were actually many). Thank you Ian. This is a great piece of history.
Missing link between STG-44 and G3 xD
Kacpa2 Exactly
Evolution proven, checkmate evangelicals
maybe it's where the 3 comes from 😵
U might have a look at Cetme B and C to find that link
Richard Dawkins: [Heavy breathing]
Very, very cool. It’s like the missing link in the history of small-arms that lead to the HK roller guns. Love your stuff, Ian
It is really cool that the original trunnion is still around. You would figure it's hardness would have been tested and potentially destroyed while checking for brittleness. Great video!
German space magic.
"Gerät" more or less translates to device. Cool video again, love your content!
the "H" suffix is an abbreviation for halbverriegelt or "half-locked"- (HK G-3) wikipedia
Thank you, very interesting. I love the technical terms like "kablooie".
Watching this video just makes me want an HK33. Then I remembered how much they cost, along with how much the magazines cost. Then I think "screw H&K" for not making a better 5.56.
Then I go back to watching Ian show me a neat firearm.
Fantastic video. Came here after watching the recent Mauser Train video. Keep it up, Gun Jesus!!
The USA: gets access to .280 British, an early FAL, the EM2, and this gun
The USA: emforteen
Just watched the old video on this rifle earlier today, thinking I wish it could be redone with better audio and video equipment. Not as much of a coincidence as it sounds though, I've watched that video quite a few times by now...nice to see a new video on this piece though. :)
I wonder if those blueprints are still in existence, possibly even available somewhere. Would be real interesting to get to study them.
A green CETME-L from Marcolmar is a bucket-list gun for me, for exactly this awesome development history (I find that basic form to have a kind of industrial beauty).
I love the roller lock system. It allowed me to prove to my dad that a semi-automatic rifle can be quite reliable. In fact from the time I bought my HK-91 around 1980 until today, shooting many thousands of rounds, I haven’t had a malfunction yet! And it served me well mule deer hunting in the Shirley mountains of Wyoming.😊 Great design!
I am used a G3 during my military service -80s, in Sweden. Recognized the "gadget" (cartridge should sit in the barrel. "16:30 middle row on the far left").
I like the system, no tubes to keep clean, just a pressed box to wipe!
I will definitely again recognize this ancestor of the G3! {google translate}
That fire control group looks to me like the gun has been either run through its paces a few times or has had the action cycled and dry fired allot.
Thanks for linking those two parts of the lineage!!
"Gerät" is generalizing word for a device or apparatus, that can have any kind of funktion - it could be a snow plough or a radio or a sand blaster or God knows what else.
In WW2 the miltary used this word extensively in the same fashion, perhaps to confuse the enemy? So they named huge missiles "Gerät" just as well as a assault rifle. Sure nobody would notice the difference... :)
Rollerlock, flap lock, bolt system, delayed blow back system.. it would be great to devote a video to explain/demonstrate these various design features.
10rd magazine, who knew Bill Ruger worked for Mauser R&D.
"Full Circle" sells out in five, four, three...
It's funny; I'd just been thinking about this gun last night, and wondering if we'd ever get a new video of it. I woke up to a very nice surprise!
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""liberate"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" the Mauser factory.
I am here to kill nazis and take war trophies, and the war is over.
Bringing democracy whether you like it or not, one bullet at a time. - USA
wow very hot and spicy take
Aah the old ''he disagrees with me so lets call him a nazi'' mentality.
someone is in need of an icepick to the brain.
Ian, your first pronouncing was quite spot-on. It's being pronounced a bit like "ge-raid", but with a hard "t" at the end. Not nitpicking, I love your videos!
I want one! Get somebody to make a repro! Much easier than an Stg 44!
I suggested to HMG.
Another example of Ian's unique ability to gain access to the most holy of places. Truly, he is Gun Jesus.
For 1945 this rifle is so damn impressive! The German's were so much more advanced in the WW2 era
And still lost go figure lol
It is a shame Germany , UK and USA didnt join in 1939 to burn the USSR to the ground It would have solved some many problems (e.g Communist China)
@@fidelismiles7439 Yup to this day I am puzzled why the british and americans didn't atleast temporally with german until atleast bolshevism was defeated in europe
It gets even weirder when you find out that USA and UK actually sent a small force to aid the White Knights during the 1917 Revolution. "Polar Bears" was the nickname these men received.
@@fidelismiles7439 Watch the world war 2 channel, if you're not already, it was such a confusing time. My Grandfather was originally from Germany, and he feared for years what was to become of not only his homeland, but his new home also, the USA. What a time it was. Hind sight, and never really getting the entire truth.
That's crazy i thought this model was actually made BEFORE the STG-44, as i wasn't aware of the actual model name and to me it doesn't look as pretty compared to the 44. That's why i adore this channel, you learn something new all the time.
Hi Ian,
have you ever been at the Mauser Museum in Oberndorf Germany ?
nice little Museum still existing in old original Mauser Works
keep up the good work !
cheers from germany
Max Mustermann Didnt know they have that museum on oberndorf, can I have their address? (Since it's not registered on google) I would like to add it to my to visit list on germany ;)
I think its's called Waffenmuseum in German and it shall be on
Klosterstr. 14, 78727 Oberndorf am Neckar
but don't quote me on it.
Hi Harold,
you should consider visiting this
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Telefon: +49 (0) 74 22 - 29 300
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they have one of the oldest Diesel Engines on Display and many other things like watches , automobiles ..
This must be the most valuable weapon Ian has ever field stripped.
He rather desk stripped it:-))
It is "Gerät" and not Gerat. That Ä is spoken ae. Same for Über. It is not uber but ueber . . .
...and I would translate "Gerät" as "device" in this specific context
like YOU? YOUber?
try the ä in Gerät like the a in apple.
I thought ü in über was like an 'oo' and the -rät in Gerät was similar to 'rate'. Is that not correct?
english apple pronounciation? or american? cause in American, it's pronounced Epple
Thanks a lot for subtitles. It's very helpful for not native English spearkers. : )
I see where Eugene Stoner was getting his "inspiration" for the lower of the AR.
Yes ! And I don't understand why more people don't see that.
You are a very good presenter and have a lot of awesome videos with lots of good info on many strange and interesting guns, so I became a patreon
Ian based on your last video when you talked about smgs, what about pdws did you talk with ken about the mp7 or p90?
Pdw is just a marketing tool. Those guns are still practically smgs.