Doubters should realize that virtually all of the "music" is there in the sketches. Cooke was adamant that he composed and added nothing-only that he filled in what was wholly implied or otherwise revealed in detailed studies of the materials. Having immersed myself in the same materials, too, it is easy to discover that his position stands the test of time. The symphony is 100% Mahler in regard to the music, but less than precise in regard to the finer details of orchestration, sometimes the harmony, or even composition. However, the majority of deficiencies are fairly self-explanatory, or otherwise implied by similar passages in other Mahler works. The missing materials present very limited options. Regardless, it did take a brilliant mind and great knowledge of the composer's work to bring this extraordinary music out of the darkness. Deryck Cooke performed a huge service to music; he should have been knighted for it.
Just curious: Are you related to Deryck Cooke? If yes, bless you. If not, we are still extremely grateful to Deryck and to you for the contributions you all made to helping us further appreciate Mahler's music.
@@wendychen5779 Thank you for your kind comments-but alas, I am not related to the one and only Deryck Cooke. But my father, Nelson Cooke (who was principal cellist of the LSO at the time) did play in the first performances of the finally-completed Mahler 10, and was well acquainted with Deryck Cooke. Best wishes to you!
A first performing version by Cooke stemmed from a performance and an associated lecture for radio broadcast on the BBC Third Programme, marking the centenary of Mahler's birth. This was aired on 19 December 1960, with the Philharmonia Orchestra conducted by Berthold Goldschmidt, who also assisted with the orchestration of Cooke's edition.
pointreyes6 There is more Mahler in the performing versions of the 10th than there is Mozart in his Requiem. Cooke and the others have revealed a symphony nobody but Mahler could have written, and Cooke is the most austere in his treatment, leaving it as much as possible as Mahler. You don't have to listen to it. Greetings from East Anglia in England
+Randolph Jones Well said. This is a staggering feat of scholarship from Deryck Cooke. It would be more of an insult to Mahler (and to Cooke for his toil) to reject his Tenth Symphony after all the work he put in to leave behind at least a comprehensive draft of it, especially when it contains some of his most gorgeous and terrifying music and is, in form, perhaps his most ingenious conception. The last section of the Finale, and the reappearance of the flute melody in particular, is to me one of the most overpowering experiences in art, and I consider it a miracle that this symphony is available to us today.
+Nicholas Marsh Fully agree. There are moments of tremendous beauty in this work. Thanks to Cooke and others for preparing a performing version and to Alma Mahler for finally changing her mind and allowing the work to be performed in full.
Many thanks for uploading. An extremely useful piece of documentation. and Deryck Cooke's explanatory commentary is very helpful. As something of a 'strict constructionist' of Mahler's sketch, this is extremely useful as a base for comparing later realizations - tho so far (2019) I know only of one, but there must be - or will be - others! It wold have been interesting to hear what Leonard Bernstein would have done, by way of reconstruction/development, of Mahler 10. I'm a bit surprised he didn't go for it! (Unless I've missed something.)
I like the forward driving tempo in the first movement but the 2nd movement was way to slow (it says 4/4 alla breve and 3/4 in whole bars in the score) but if it was in order to play it without stumbling, i forgive it (its very hard and confusing to play and conduct).
Bobby Crush left an uncompleted piano work provisionally entitled Get Up Off Your Pins Mum, The Dancing Cockney's About To Come Through The Front Door.... Sadly Cooke died before he could construct a performing version of this great work..
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I believe if Mahler had lived to complete the 10th, this symphony would have been considered his best by both critics and audiences alike.
It's one of his best as it stands. The final movement is one of the greatest in all music.
I, a cellist, agree!. L Russ
It should be considered that way just as it is!
for me is however the best
@@lynnruss7325 I’m sure flutists love it as well.
Doubters should realize that virtually all of the "music" is there in the sketches. Cooke was adamant that he composed and added nothing-only that he filled in what was wholly implied or otherwise revealed in detailed studies of the materials. Having immersed myself in the same materials, too, it is easy to discover that his position stands the test of time. The symphony is 100% Mahler in regard to the music, but less than precise in regard to the finer details of orchestration, sometimes the harmony, or even composition. However, the majority of deficiencies are fairly self-explanatory, or otherwise implied by similar passages in other Mahler works. The missing materials present very limited options. Regardless, it did take a brilliant mind and great knowledge of the composer's work to bring this extraordinary music out of the darkness. Deryck Cooke performed a huge service to music; he should have been knighted for it.
Just curious: Are you related to Deryck Cooke? If yes, bless you. If not, we are still extremely grateful to Deryck and to you for the contributions you all made to helping us further appreciate Mahler's music.
@@wendychen5779 Thank you for your kind comments-but alas, I am not related to the one and only Deryck Cooke. But my father, Nelson Cooke (who was principal cellist of the LSO at the time) did play in the first performances of the finally-completed Mahler 10, and was well acquainted with Deryck Cooke. Best wishes to you!
Wonderful. Just to be able to hear that flute solo in the last movement alone makes it all worthwhile.
A broadcast of historical importance. Thank you for uploading this.
I love this Symphony! It is a real treat to be able to hear the comments from Deryck Cooke. Many thanks for publishing this video!
A first performing version by Cooke stemmed from a performance and an associated lecture for radio broadcast on the BBC Third Programme, marking the centenary of Mahler's birth. This was aired on 19 December 1960, with the Philharmonia Orchestra conducted by Berthold Goldschmidt, who also assisted with the orchestration of Cooke's edition.
Thanks so much for posting this. It is wonderful. A great contribution to understanding this moving symphony by its greatest expert.
Rare gem! Excellent British musicologist and composer Deryck Cooke analyses Mahler's unfinished 10th Symphony and proposes a few suggestions.
Enjoy!
Thanks so much for posting this extraordinary lecture. Wonderful to hear.
Hi Linda. How are you? I am not surprised if you are depressed. Please, let me know how you are doing. Best, Alan.
pointreyes6 There is more Mahler in the performing versions of the 10th than there is Mozart in his Requiem. Cooke and the others have revealed a symphony nobody but Mahler could have written, and Cooke is the most austere in his treatment, leaving it as much as possible as Mahler.
You don't have to listen to it.
Greetings from East Anglia in England
+Randolph Jones Well said. This is a staggering feat of scholarship from Deryck Cooke. It would be more of an insult to Mahler (and to Cooke for his toil) to reject his Tenth Symphony after all the work he put in to leave behind at least a comprehensive draft of it, especially when it contains some of his most gorgeous and terrifying music and is, in form, perhaps his most ingenious conception. The last section of the Finale, and the reappearance of the flute melody in particular, is to me one of the most overpowering experiences in art, and I consider it a miracle that this symphony is available to us today.
+Nicholas Marsh Fully agree. There are moments of tremendous beauty in this work. Thanks to Cooke and others for preparing a performing version and to Alma Mahler for finally changing her mind and allowing the work to be performed in full.
@@MaraisNic I share your opinion. Glad Alma didn't destroy it as asked to do.
Many thanks for uploading. An extremely useful piece of documentation. and Deryck Cooke's explanatory commentary is very helpful. As something of a 'strict constructionist' of Mahler's sketch, this is extremely useful as a base for comparing later realizations - tho so far (2019) I know only of one, but there must be - or will be - others!
It wold have been interesting to hear what Leonard Bernstein would have done, by way of reconstruction/development, of Mahler 10. I'm a bit surprised he didn't go for it! (Unless I've missed something.)
As I recall he was against reconstruction of the 10th as a whole work.
This is marvellous, thank you.
This is wonderful. Thanks so much for posting it.
I prefer 29:56 with strings. So beautiful.
Praise this video
With gratitude.
Thank you!
Thanks for the upload :)
YOU Tube
Invaluable.
I like the forward driving tempo in the first movement but the 2nd movement was way to slow (it says 4/4 alla breve and 3/4 in whole bars in the score) but if it was in order to play it without stumbling, i forgive it (its very hard and confusing to play and conduct).
Merci mille fois !!!
29:56 Sounds so good with strings aswell :)
Ell adago de 1 de Mahler es unico entre oda l mmusica
Bobby Crush left an uncompleted piano work provisionally entitled Get Up Off Your Pins Mum, The Dancing Cockney's About To Come Through The Front Door.... Sadly Cooke died before he could construct a performing version of this great work..
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