If Mahler didn't complete this symphony then sure as hell his (spirit, soul) did! Mahler was a perfectionist, I know. And this may be his most perfectly, imperfect work. His genius conquered death. Nothing less than that, here.
Yes, but did he or someone else write/finish it after he died? If it was another composer (or composers) it almost makes it a more fitting end to Classical music.
@@DannyintheSpirit As far as what Mahler wrote, much of the symphony, mostly the last three movements, really only exists in sketch form; Mahler only completed the first movement. Deryck Cooke (this version) and other composers have tried, in many different ways, to flesh out and complete the symphony in what they believe to the most fitting and Mahlerian way, and many judge this version to be done in that way. The music exists for much of the symphony, just in different states of completion.
@@whatafreakinusername The last sentence should read: "The music exists for ALL of the symphony, just in different states of completion". The work is sketeched from the first bar of the Adagio to the final bar of the finale. Nothing in between is missing on the horizontal level. It is the vertical level where the music is unfinished.
It is immensely gratifying that the barriers have broken down and Mahler's Tenth is being played more and more in its entirety. When I was growing up, only the Adagio was usually played, and in the recordings was added as "a fifth movement" to the Ninth Symphony, so I conflated the two works together, and for a long time afterward it was difficult for me to understand this movement as the opening part of a different world, as a counterpart to the wonderful Finale. When I began to really get to know the Tenth, I had a rather ambivalent relationship with the movements between the Adagio and the Finale, and it was not until many years later that I was able to understand and fully feel the First Scherzo and the Purgatorium. I have to admit that I still don't understand the Second Scherzo, the movement seems chaotic to me and I have the impression that Mahler would have worked on it a lot more. In contrast, the Finale was drafted as a perfect, extremely moving expression of the deepest human feelings that always moves me to tears. Bravo the Rotterdam Philharmonisch Orkest and conductor Yannick Nézet-Séguin for an extremely empathetic, concentrated and dynamic interpretation of this masterpiece!
It is of value for the compleat Mahlerian (like myself), but let's face it: it's not Mahler--except for possibly the first movement. No doubt he would have changed much, as he most likely would have done with DLvdE & the 9th Symphony, which he didn't live to conduct. Think of how he changed many of his works following performance.
@@Jeff-gi6dh Exactly. He didn't change THAT much in his prior revisions. The core structure always remained untouched. Just listen to "Todtenfeier" as a first draft of the opening movement of the 2nd Symphony. Or the first version of the 1st Symphony. Or look at the score of the 6th. He changed orchstration here and there, but complete rewrites of entire passages longer than 8 bars was not his thing. I'm convinced the structure of the 10th would have remained as it is now.
@@AidanFrank127Faber Music publish it. A wonderfully scholarly edition it is to, and handsomely produced. It must be said that a lot of the actual notes are Deryck Cooke’s, when Mahler only gives the top line. Most of the orchestration (other than the Adagio of course) is Cooke’s and Bertholt Goldschmidt’s (and the Matthew’s brothers). I am currently listening to it with the score and it’s fascinating comparing the original sketch with the ‘ finished’ product. To my ears, much of it (especially the two scherzos) feels like a second pressing of earlier works, but it is still of immense interest. The end of the finale is quite wonderful.
Absolutely heartbreaking piece. One of my favorite moments is at 1:14:50, I can feel him yelling out in desperation. I feel this piece, despite all the things that happened and Alma breaking his heart due to infidelity, he ultimately forgives and still loves her. He's clinging on to life and not wanting her to be without him, willing to go to Sigmund Freud to do anything to salvage his marriage. The quote in the end that he wrote and the beautiful ending, he truly loved Alma. As for the horror chord, I feel that represented the death of his daughter and how he felt about it. A parent losing their child, how heartbreaking it all was and how it affected his marriage. I also feel at the end, he also ultimately forgives himself. He probably blamed himself as to why his daughter died and why his marriage was falling apart. When I listen to this piece, I realize too often I look at my past mistakes and blame myself. Mahler near the end, he finally let's that all go and for me I get this brief moment of letting go too, so I cannot help and cry to myself. The story of this symphony is something I feel many can resonate with if they look deeper into it.
Beautifully said, that chord, that cry of despair, the unfathomable meaning of human existence, but in the end, acceptance, He will take it anyway, Mahler, our true hero; could love ever be expressed so exquisitely?
Its a hight point or a recapitulation of a sort, last final emphasis of that theme, he does it a couple of times like "no listen i have so much more to say!" but that build up that comes before it makes it so much more beautiful, it actually starts (for me, you can also go further back to put more and more of the rest of the music into a perspective) at 1:11:23 and has a little highpoint right about 1:12:44, i have to hear that first highpoint so that your moment works with the best effect.
Wow such profound comments and I totally agree with all the moments mentioned. I would only add the modulation at 1:06:00 into the horn and trumpet solos, as it’s the first statement of the themes that return climactically later at 1:14:21. My favourite Mahler overall has to be the 3rd, but I think the end of the 10th is not only his ultimate musical statement but also his most meaningful achievement stylistically and emotionally. ❤
I don't know who the heck you are, MusungsofaMusician, but your comments are exquisite. And as long as we are musing, I can iamgine that Mahler would have appreciated your senstive read of this painfully beautiful work...
Don’t get me wrong, every single one of Mahler’s symphonies are greater than phenomenal, real, and define. But besides the 7th and 9th, this has to be his most raw symphony. Even if left unfinished. I love every one of his symphonies. I’ve listened to all of them, except this one. Until today. I can’t get over how surreal it is. To me it’s his most moving. Especially that finale. Most might think differently. But I love this one. I can’t believe I didn’t give it a chance today. The finale kills me
Now just imagine if you had never heard of Gustav Mahler and the first music by him you ever heard was this symphony? That was my experrience. After the 10th, I gradually got to know all the rest, have heard the 7th and 1st live, etc. The 10th is still my favorite Mahler.
I agree. The finale is utterly devastating. Look at the faces of the orchestra at the end, some in tears. This symphony was finished to a far greater degree than many other, celebrated unfinished works eg Mozart requiem, Schubert 9.
This last movement is so heart wrenchingly gorgeous it’s nearly unbearable. The anguish and pain in life that he so eloquently transcribed and transposed through music is unparalleled. Thank you Mahler.
he died before he finished this symphony - he only wrote some notes and sketches so most of the piece was actually completed by someone else based off of his ideas
@@willowsparks4576 Yeah. That’s not true. He didn’t just write „some notes“. He finished pretty much of it, actually. Otherwise nobody would have been able to complete a presentable version.
@@willowsparks4576 Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. Mahler finished the entire symphony in a reduced orchestral sketch score (4/6 and/or 8 staves. You can actually look for his manuscript online and see exactly how detailed everything was written down). He wrote all of it, he just didn't orchestrate every single part, but the overall arc was absolutely there. Unlike, for instance, Mozart's Requiem where tons of completely new parts, not based on anything by Mozart, were absolutely added, this "unfinished" work everything was composed just not written out in detail.
For me this is one of the greatest symphonies. The hammer blows are truly shattering: it marks the end of the Holy Roman cultural era and forsees the disastrous collapse of civilisation and spiritual decline occasioned by the First World War.
@@willowsparks4576 The first and final movements were complete. There was a lot more than just a few notes and sketches at the time of his death. The completion by several musicians have, to me, as a Mahler afficionado, the sound of Mahler. Of course one cannot be certain of Mahler's final intentions, especially as he so often revised his work, but the completion of the 10th feels an honest , respectful and commendable effort.
To think that Mahler was near death yet only 50 years old when he wrote this. The closing bars of the finale are of such profound beauty and have such a sense of finality, that one wonders where Mahler could have gone after this, if had lived 10 20 or 30 years more. It truly seems to say - I have finished - I have no more to say. So profound and beautiful.
I think it's the greatest 'what if' in all of music. Well, western 'classical' music, anyway. The expressionistic moments point towards Alban Berg, yet the second movement - with its many measures of mixed meters (2 and 3 beat patterns) - anticipates Stravinsky. Some late Mahler even sort of resembles Kurt Weill. But even personally, what turmoil it might have been. Would he and Alma have remained married? If so, would she have been miserable? If not, would Mahler have been even more devastated? Would Mahler have moved to America? Would he have taken a university or conservatory teaching position? If Mahler had stayed in Austria, would he have had enough political clout to stop Hitler (that's a stretch, I know)? Would Mahler been completely shattered by the senseless slaughter in WWI? Could he have survived and thrived, the way Alma did? It's a lot of stuff to ponder.
Of course Mahler wouldn't have had ANY political clout to stop Hitler, I fear. WWI would indeed have shattered him completely - the spectacle of his prophesy's in the Sixth Symphony coming true!
One frequently listens to the Ninth and think the same, yet this Tenth so brilliantly completed by Cooke is in my opinion the most indispensable of Mahler works. A sophisticated, deeply conscious mind like that of Mahler never ends confronting the idea of life and death, especially after the tragedy of the loss of child, the loss of youth, the loss of health, and above all, betrayal that shakes the foundations of one's very being. So often was Mahler thrown in deep darkness, and always emerged with the dignity of a man who nourished the love of mankind; and made music out of it. He could have created more, but had already lived much, it is one of life's greatest gifts that we can be overtaken by his music.
@@whatafreakinusername He was aready working in New York. If his health had been good, he could have returned there. Whether or not his heart was broken in every sense of the word is another matter.
I love Mahler. When you listen to Mahler you live in his world because he created an entire world in the hour+ that the symphonies last. We wallow in Mahler. That is a good thing. This symphony was breaking new ground for him. Great performance. Great to hear, excuse me , wallow in this performance!
I heard this live in concert by the Minnesota Orchestra this weekend (twice!) under Osmo Vanska. I have waited DECADES to hear this live. I have always loved the 1st movt, but the rest took some time and now I see this symphony as being utterly remarkable and unforgettable. The Scherzo is the best he ever wrote - the Finale is a fitting end to Mahler's life. Vanska did an incredible job - I won't say better than Seguin but different and equally wonderful. I was in the second row - I was in tears at the end. The hall was sold out - what an experience. It will be recorded this week - I can't wait for its release. Thank God Alama didn't burn the manuscript as he had asked!
Mahler‘s true and final farewell. And to think that we could well have been deprived of it all! Of that now famous first movement with its devastating catastrophe chord. Or this last movement with its heartbreaking flute melody, or its elevating last reconciliation with the world. If people like Cooke didn't dare to try to complete it. Or, who knows, if Alma had simply destroyed it. What good fortune that we are able to hear it. Maybe Mahler would have changed it again and a lot (as he did with "completed" symphonies), but the melodic material is there, and it would have stayed, I'm sure. So, it’s nothing short of a miracle that it was saved.
O my God. That last movement...so chillingly beautiful. It has the same atmosphere as the 9th. Thank you Gustav Mahler. What more would you have written.. a haunting question
It's a matter of how you rate Mahler's work process. One can say it is 90% Mahler, one can also say it is only 70% Mahler. What is true that there are no bars missing in the sketch. It runs from start to finish, nothing is missing. But the orchestration is only completed about 30%. And since Mahler liked to sometimes cut passages and write new ones as he finished the score in full orchestration, it is not to be said that he wouldn't have done that again while working on this Symphony. But as opposed to Mozart's Requiem the work is completed in draft and can therefore be performed by orchestrating the draft and without the need to compose entire movements or passages that were not sketched by Mahler.
@@Quotenwagnerianer Agree, and I feel that almost certainly he would have made major changes, edits, additions of new sections and new orchestration to this one, had he lived to finish it. Not least because the subject matter was so personal and private, and highly sensitive both to himself and to Alma. Some of the most dramatic touches we're hearing here came only at a late stage of the composition of the draft (like the "terror chords" climax of the opening Adagio). I also think he wpuld have fleshed out the orchestration of the finale to give it more weight and volume - it sounds good here to us, but that's also because we can go back and listen again, raise the volume at some points etc. Mahler. living long before the age of LPs or CDs, would not have wanted to see a 25-minute finale that largely plays out in just pp or ppp and with near chamber-like settings in many passages, he knew that was just about unacceptable in a symphonic finale.
I'm rather more of a Bruckner man myself but if I had to take any Mahler symphony to my desert island it would be No 10 or No 9 as my second choice . The slow movements are truly gorgeous and if Mahler had composed nothing else in his life he would deserve his place in music history for these alone.
Bruckner and Mahler in my opinion inhabit the same world. Mahler for me has the edge, though that is in no way to disparage Bruckner whose music I would happily have on my desert island. If you like Bruckner's motets try Mahler's 8th, so much to admire there, not least the final Chorus Mysticus.
Bruckner was Mahler's composition teacher in Vienna, so there is a definite kinship of course. Bruckner would have loved Mahler's 2nd and 3rd symphonies if he had lived to hear them.
RUclips deleted my previous account. I therefore wish to post my appreciation once more of this excellent performance and the excellent broadcast. Mahler's 10th symphony affects me profoundly from the shattering scream in the first movement, surely one of the most astonishing moments in music, to the very final closing bars. I can well understand why the lady violinist at the end of the performance has tears rolling down her cheeks - and a remarkable measure of how moving this work and the performance were. I admired how the conductor held the audience captive at the end before the applause and indeed all respect to the audience for allowing that moment of transition from the world of Mahler to the present. Mahler has been my companion for almost forty years and I hope to depart this world with his music sending me to my final rest.
@SirGreenVine Mahler's music is not a gift from God but the result of intense effort and dedication by a man. To say otherwise is an insult to the composer and to belittle his talent. Mahler's music may make you feel closer to your deity, but as someone who has listened to Mahler for 40 years, it has brought me closer to sharing the common human shared experience of life itself with all its vissicitudes.
By chance I came across this version of Mahler's "tenth symphony" a little over a year ago, and it seemed to me to be one of the most wonderful performances I have ever heard. Excellent the innate talent of the young Director Yannick Nézet-Séguin, the "tempo" is extraordinary and since it is a recent recording, the use of digital technology allows to have a splendid, wide, sublime, wonderful sound. If I'm not wrong, it's Deryck Cooke's version that's played. Please listen to it in full, one can be completely absorbed and astonished, because in this symphony, just as Mozart wrote his own "Requiem", Mahler wrote his own funeral and the purgatory of all the vicissitudes of his entire conflictive life, full of deep mixed feelings, in a single word Extraordinary! .....
That flute section at 57:32 is so quiet and gentle, but at the same time it's so painful and sad. It sounds like suffering in stillness and absolute loneliness. It's one of the most touching, heartbreaking and beautiful sections of the whole piece.
This solo of flute 57:20, so heartbreaking. The man just aside, closing his eyes, moving his front when a perfect note is playing, enjoy this so profondly.
Let us not forget Deryck Cooke - 2nd version ( RIP 1989) for making this wonderful piece of music a realitiy. I concur with the last = the finale is heart braking - and gorgeous!
Indeed we have a debt to Mr Cooke who I think showed sensitivity and tact. After listening to Mahler's 10th, I feel as if transported to another sphere and am thankful that I can appreciate such astonishing and profound music. The scream in the first movement is surely one of the most agonising moments in symphonic music, the flute in the final movement - always for Mahler a messenger of hope, almost too much to bear and those final bars, simply fulfilling and resigned.
Deryck Cooke died in 1976 two months after his revised version was published. This 1989 version was made by his collaborators years after his death. Some wrong notes are corrected which I'm sure Cooke would have approved of. But there are arbitrary and unnecessary changes to the orchestration that I doubt Cooke would have approved of.
@@remomazzetti8757 Surely the more relevant conjecture is whether *Mahler* would have approved. About that I'm not sure. After the Adagio, I must confess this symphony - or rather the symphonic scaffolding that is there - loses me. Is it 'saying' anything?
When I listen to Mahler I frequently fall into a deep sleep somewhere in the first movement, and wake up an hour or so later in the last movement - totally relaxed. It feels like waking up from an anesthesia. Mahler is kind of addictive. More I hear, more I want.
Apart from the excellent performance the camerawork is as good: many total shots and not moving around all the time. One wishes all video's to be like this.
I’d certainly put the Adagio up with the best, but not perhaps the rest of it, beautiful as much of it is. For me it’s impossible to decide which symphony is ‘the greatest’. As they all contain greatness. There is something of a consensus that the 6th is possibly the most perfect. And the immaculate 4th.
The third movement is marked Allegretto Moderato by Mahler not Allegro Moderato. The tempo markings at the beginning of the forth and fifth movements are by Cooke: Mahler did mark the central section of the "Allegro Moderato " .
To add to my comment below - I noticed the woman in the violin section in tears at the end. So am i - this is one of the most profoundly beautiful conclusiona in the entire musical literature. The only thing comparable that immediately comes to mind is the Thomas Tallis Fantasia.
I remember me playing this piece in a concert as a violinist when suddenly tears were rolling down my face during the 1:14:50 passage. It was a beautiful moment but also kind of embarrassing as I couldn't wipe them away that moment
Notice the quote from isoldes Liebestod, too, high in the soaring strings beginning around 1:01:25 and leading up to that blunt "clubbing down" drum stroke...an extremely telling moment.
A magnificent video for the camera work and the recording. I must confess I shed tears during the flute solo at the start of the final movement. This is the first time I have listened to the entire symphony since my 1976 LPs by Wynne Morris, and must say the faster movements were hardly recognizable to me. The orchrestration seems to have been filled out so beautifully. Thank you NPO Rdaio 4.
Every piece of Mahler's music is my favorite! I never tire of listening to his every work. Ever since I heard Kathleen Ferrier's Abschied from Das Lied von der Erde (Bruno Walter's) as a child I've hungered for more Mahler. I've heard so many wonderful concerts and recordings of the great Gustav!
I agree. As I say in my own comment Mahler has been a companion for almost 40 years. I never tire of listening to his music. Over the years my preferred symphony varies with this and No.8, my top picks - the 10th though will always remain there. It is astonishing in its expression. The shattering scream in the first movement is almost too much to bear and the finale is sublime, with the flute solo so beautiful and filled with such hope. Enjoy, forever.
Whatever caveats might be made about the completion of this work, I wouldn't take ANYTHING for the final ten minutes of this symphony, Mahler's final thoughts on the paradox.... pain and exultation... of living... and the poignancy that it's all soon to end. Such profound insight... the resolution and acceptance that then gives us one final gesture of yearning and aspiration. Magnificent.
What a beautiful concert. Mahler would have been so proud. This would have been his best symphony or should I say, it is. You can just tell that Mahler new his life was coming to an end. With that said, we all know what a great composer he was. The playing of the Rotterdam Philharmonisch Orkest was outstanding. A job very very well done. Thank you for posting this.
Yes, a great work by a man with remarkable courage and integrity. All of his three great post-1907 works are confrontations/conversations with the spectre of Death, of human mortality, and his *own* mortality - though it's not the only topic they take on, of course. Death is certainly present in this final drafted symphony, for sure, he is unmistakably addressing it on some levels, and it's both tragic and ironically right that the Reaper claimed him before Mahler had the time to finish the work - or the time to survive and write more great masterpieces. If he had lived to finish the 10th, there are certainly some things he would have changed or reworked, especially in the two Scherzi - also I think the orchestral texture of the finale would have been more fleshed out at many points. In Cooke's version it is very low and almost like a subdued chamber piece a lot of the time, which is logical because Cooke didn't want to make too many guesses about instrumentation or layering of the score - but Mahler knew that it would not work with a finale lasting for more than rwenty minutes played largely in ppp with just a few instruments. It works fairly well on CD where we can go back and listen at leisure, listen for details and uincover new things in the music - or refer to the CD after a live performance in the concert hall - but back in 1910 the *only* way to hear a work like this was in live performance! - and this would affect the structure and the sound. I'm also thinking that if Mahler had survived his illness, and perhaps lived for another twenty years in good health, we wouldn't have knpwn near as much about the background of the work - his serious stress and overwork, his worries about the future, the triangle drama with Alma and Gropius and so on. Alma felt free to address some of this stuff in public, especially the affair with Gropius, precisely because Mahler was now dead and out of the way, leaving her free to marry Walter Gropius. If Mahler had survived his illness this wouldn't have been possible, unless the marriage had ended in an acrimonious break and divorce - which again would have made all of them very unwilling to tell about the events of 1910 as a continuous and understandable story. Mahler might even have decided that he could never let the work be performed as a whole, because it was so closely tied to these painful events, and too private. So Mahler's death made sure that this music could only be heard half a century later, after two world wars had rolled by and many of his friends and colleagues were dead - but without his death we might never have heard it in full at all, and we would not have heard it within the frame of context we are hearing it now.
My favourites are 2&3 whereas, when I was younger it was 1&4. Just cried my eyes out at the 8th finale and then found this which is fabulous. Great to see another diversity dimension in the conductor. I've just watched Susanna Mälkki so having an openly gay male is exciting too. I must have listened to the 10th a few times so credit to this lot for holding my attention so well. Many thanks.
A very moving performance of what may be Mahler's most personal work, suggesting the anguish he must have felt with death so close. Its dark mood reminds me of Sibelius' 4th symphony, written around the same time, although Sibelius was a long way from death. The sound and camera work here are exceptional.
He finished the 1st and 3rd movements, but had finished the rest to near completion. It's always been my favorite Mahler symphony. It's very intense and occasionally quite weird, but more should know of Derek Cooke's great achievement and Mahler's incomparable legacy. Thanks and best
"Near completion" is a bit of an overstatement - there is a roughly continuous musical argument to follow through the work, but he would have spent time on revising and rewriting several sections. The second movement was a rather chaotic and half-finished sketch, still in a state of flux when he left it. And the haunting climax of the opening Adagio, with the "horror chord" and the siren-like trumpet call was almost an afterthought. I think Mahler would have added to the orchestration of some parts of the finale too; Cooke only wrote in what he felt he could be reasonably sure Mahler would also have done. Cooke's versions are great, but they are performance versions, renderings of where the symphony had got to when Mahler put it aside in September 1910 to turn to other work (he never found the time to continue with this one, of course) - not really a final completion.
Outstanding! This is an excellent interpretation, bravo Yannick and the Rotterdam Philharmonic!! The orchestra once again shows its excellence. The Netherlands is blessed with several very good orchestras. I would list the RPO second only to the RCO (Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra). Just my opinion...
Not to mention that in the Netherlands there is a large tradition of outstanding Mahlerian conductors and orchestras, starting with Willem Mengelberg, who put Mahler's music in the place which deserves.
I greatly admire the productions which ignore the purists and let us experience the fullness of the final years of the Romantic era in Cooke's careful and considerate completion. If Mahler himself could honor Beethoven with the ninth, Cooke could honor Mahler with his permission.
This symphony's last part to be used to japanese SF-anime Legend of the Galactic Heroes's final episode,part 110's last scene. Legend of the Galactic Heroes is written by Japanese auther Yoshiki Tanaka in 1982 to 1987. Both is magnificent and grandiose ending. I love this symphony finished version. Thank you brilliant footage uploaded!
There are musical moments when being at a live performance one feels transformed, transfigured to another world. An accomplished performance like this would surely be one. I have been fortunate enough to experience a few such moments of ecstasy - all those who experience Mahler viscerally almost will understand what I mean.
Un adagio stupendo che ti fa pensare il vero significato della vita.... Mahler e unico e più gli anni passano e più Mahler e capito che un compositore del domani...
wat een prachtige, verpletterende en meeslepende uitvoering op 21 April jl in de Doelen. Deze symfonie raakt mijn ziel zo diep. Bravo dirigent en orkest, geweldig!!!
andante cantablie - Beethoven 3rd op 125 9th or the 100 bars or so Mahler wrote here in the finale... either way,Glorious and I am in tears! Man I wished that man had lived longer and composed more beauty.
Just beautiful!! Sad though that we only can watch it here on youtube. Wish I could have it on dvd or bluray. The conductor Nezet-Seguin is just great!
Surely one of the most profoundly affecting passages in all music occurs in Movt. 5, with the flute solo and the music, largely for strings, that follows.
This is Mahler’s most devastating music; the finale is gut wrenching, leaves me in bits every time. The tears of the players at the end say it all. The music (melody and basic harmonic scheme) is all Mahler’s. Unlike say the Mozart requiem, which gets plenty more performances. Perhaps because Mahler was such a wonderful and unpredictable orchestrator, we perceive that we have little idea of how the details of this might have turned out…
Side note while listening: a serious concert hall requires a pipe organ. New York City does not have such hall. The Lincoln center concert venue was renovated at 500 million dollars!!! but the organ is not there.
Uche kuche hoest proest. Niet bepaald melodieus, en gebeurt volledig expres. Misselijk. Gelukkig enkel duidelijk hoorbaar tussen de stukken in. /Edit: heb zojuist het stuk uitgekeken, het was geweldig! *^_^*
the andante cantaible is a rich reworking of Mahler's beloved Bach - pick a composition. Close to the end - it is amazing what you think of. Love the man - 100 years later. I had the honor of attending a recital at the University of Jakarta on 18 May 2011 - songs of the wayfarer were on the menu! As well as Kindertotenlier.
Much like his 8th, the soul rises up into eternity. The 10th, however, describes the Artist's soul, moving on to the finale of life, while saying goodbye both to Earth and it's population, and a new beginning towards the afterlife. It's no accident that this symphony calls back to Hans Rott's only Symphony in Emajor, Mahler's Das Klagende Lied (Final notes of this are from Klagende's 2nd movement), and also providing a 'yang' to his 9th's 'Yin' (Mahler commonly utilizes similar concepts such as Duality / Taoism.
Een uitstekende prestatie door een prachtige orkest in een van de mooiste concert-hallen van Europa. Maar waarom is de naam van een mezzo-sopraan opgenomen wanneer deze symfonie is gecomponeerd voor orkest alleen?
If Mahler didn't complete this symphony then sure as hell his (spirit, soul) did! Mahler was a perfectionist, I know. And this may be his most perfectly, imperfect work. His genius conquered death. Nothing less than that, here.
1. Adagio: 0:05
2. Scherzo: 26:05
3. Purgatorio: 38:25
4. Scherzo: 43:10
5. Finale: 55:12 (edited: thanks to Porky Minch)
Doesn't the finale start at 55:12 ?
@@porkyminch5131 You're right! I just checked the score and it indeed starts at 55:12 here, thanks for the correction!
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I love the finale's opening, it really tells you this is the grand finale, not just of Mahlers life, but the end of all classical music.
Yes, but did he or someone else write/finish it after he died? If it was another composer (or composers) it almost makes it a more fitting end to Classical music.
@@DannyintheSpirit As far as what Mahler wrote, much of the symphony, mostly the last three movements, really only exists in sketch form; Mahler only completed the first movement. Deryck Cooke (this version) and other composers have tried, in many different ways, to flesh out and complete the symphony in what they believe to the most fitting and Mahlerian way, and many judge this version to be done in that way. The music exists for much of the symphony, just in different states of completion.
@@whatafreakinusername The last sentence should read: "The music exists for ALL of the symphony, just in different states of completion".
The work is sketeched from the first bar of the Adagio to the final bar of the finale. Nothing in between is missing on the horizontal level. It is the vertical level where the music is unfinished.
Great classical music is being composed today as well.
It is immensely gratifying that the barriers have broken down and Mahler's Tenth is being played more and more in its entirety. When I was growing up, only the Adagio was usually played, and in the recordings was added as "a fifth movement" to the Ninth Symphony, so I conflated the two works together, and for a long time afterward it was difficult for me to understand this movement as the opening part of a different world, as a counterpart to the wonderful Finale. When I began to really get to know the Tenth, I had a rather ambivalent relationship with the movements between the Adagio and the Finale, and it was not until many years later that I was able to understand and fully feel the First Scherzo and the Purgatorium. I have to admit that I still don't understand the Second Scherzo, the movement seems chaotic to me and I have the impression that Mahler would have worked on it a lot more. In contrast, the Finale was drafted as a perfect, extremely moving expression of the deepest human feelings that always moves me to tears. Bravo the Rotterdam Philharmonisch Orkest and conductor Yannick Nézet-Séguin for an extremely empathetic, concentrated and dynamic interpretation of this masterpiece!
Do you know where I cloud find a score for this? I only find ones for the adagio
It is of value for the compleat Mahlerian (like myself), but let's face it: it's not Mahler--except for possibly the first movement. No doubt he would have changed much, as he most likely would have done with DLvdE & the 9th Symphony, which he didn't live to conduct. Think of how he changed many of his works following performance.
@@Jeff-gi6dh Exactly. He didn't change THAT much in his prior revisions. The core structure always remained untouched. Just listen to "Todtenfeier" as a first draft of the opening movement of the 2nd Symphony. Or the first version of the 1st Symphony. Or look at the score of the 6th. He changed orchstration here and there, but complete rewrites of entire passages longer than 8 bars was not his thing.
I'm convinced the structure of the 10th would have remained as it is now.
@@AidanFrank127Faber Music publish it. A wonderfully scholarly edition it is to, and handsomely produced. It must be said that a lot of the actual notes are Deryck Cooke’s, when Mahler only gives the top line. Most of the orchestration (other than the Adagio of course) is Cooke’s and Bertholt Goldschmidt’s (and the Matthew’s brothers). I am currently listening to it with the score and it’s fascinating comparing the original sketch with the ‘ finished’ product. To my ears, much of it (especially the two scherzos) feels like a second pressing of earlier works, but it is still of immense interest. The end of the finale is quite wonderful.
Absolutely heartbreaking piece. One of my favorite moments is at 1:14:50, I can feel him yelling out in desperation. I feel this piece, despite all the things that happened and Alma breaking his heart due to infidelity, he ultimately forgives and still loves her. He's clinging on to life and not wanting her to be without him, willing to go to Sigmund Freud to do anything to salvage his marriage. The quote in the end that he wrote and the beautiful ending, he truly loved Alma.
As for the horror chord, I feel that represented the death of his daughter and how he felt about it. A parent losing their child, how heartbreaking it all was and how it affected his marriage. I also feel at the end, he also ultimately forgives himself. He probably blamed himself as to why his daughter died and why his marriage was falling apart. When I listen to this piece, I realize too often I look at my past mistakes and blame myself. Mahler near the end, he finally let's that all go and for me I get this brief moment of letting go too, so I cannot help and cry to myself. The story of this symphony is something I feel many can resonate with if they look deeper into it.
Beautifully said, that chord, that cry of despair, the unfathomable meaning of human existence, but in the end, acceptance, He will take it anyway, Mahler, our true hero; could love ever be expressed so exquisitely?
Its a hight point or a recapitulation of a sort, last final emphasis of that theme, he does it a couple of times like "no listen i have so much more to say!" but that build up that comes before it makes it so much more beautiful, it actually starts (for me, you can also go further back to put more and more of the rest of the music into a perspective) at 1:11:23 and has a little highpoint right about 1:12:44, i have to hear that first highpoint so that your moment works with the best effect.
Wow such profound comments and I totally agree with all the moments mentioned. I would only add the modulation at 1:06:00 into the horn and trumpet solos, as it’s the first statement of the themes that return climactically later at 1:14:21. My favourite Mahler overall has to be the 3rd, but I think the end of the 10th is not only his ultimate musical statement but also his most meaningful achievement stylistically and emotionally. ❤
I don't know who the heck you are, MusungsofaMusician, but your comments are exquisite. And as long as we are musing, I can iamgine that Mahler would have appreciated your senstive read of this painfully beautiful work...
@musing --I love your summation. Speaks to me
Never before has this symphony sounded so exquisitely beautiful. Mahler would have been delighted.
Don’t get me wrong, every single one of Mahler’s symphonies are greater than phenomenal, real, and define. But besides the 7th and 9th, this has to be his most raw symphony. Even if left unfinished. I love every one of his symphonies. I’ve listened to all of them, except this one. Until today. I can’t get over how surreal it is. To me it’s his most moving. Especially that finale. Most might think differently. But I love this one. I can’t believe I didn’t give it a chance today. The finale kills me
Agree. This symphony would have been my favorite if he had finished it.
@@JosiahofSilverton It can still be your favorite no matter who did what with it. Just bask in it and love it as presented here.
Now just imagine if you had never heard of Gustav Mahler and the first music by him you ever heard was this symphony? That was my experrience. After the 10th, I gradually got to know all the rest, have heard the 7th and 1st live, etc. The 10th is still my favorite Mahler.
@@JosiahofSilverton Mahler did finish it, in short score, four staves. It was not orchestrated before he died.
I agree. The finale is utterly devastating. Look at the faces of the orchestra at the end, some in tears. This symphony was finished to a far greater degree than many other, celebrated unfinished works eg Mozart requiem, Schubert 9.
This last movement is so heart wrenchingly gorgeous it’s nearly unbearable. The anguish and pain in life that he so eloquently transcribed and transposed through music is unparalleled. Thank you Mahler.
he died before he finished this symphony - he only wrote some notes and sketches so most of the piece was actually completed by someone else based off of his ideas
@@willowsparks4576 Yeah. That’s not true. He didn’t just write „some notes“. He finished pretty much of it, actually. Otherwise nobody would have been able to complete a presentable version.
@@willowsparks4576 Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. Mahler finished the entire symphony in a reduced orchestral sketch score (4/6 and/or 8 staves. You can actually look for his manuscript online and see exactly how detailed everything was written down). He wrote all of it, he just didn't orchestrate every single part, but the overall arc was absolutely there.
Unlike, for instance, Mozart's Requiem where tons of completely new parts, not based on anything by Mozart, were absolutely added, this "unfinished" work everything was composed just not written out in detail.
For me this is one of the greatest symphonies. The hammer blows are truly shattering: it marks the end of the Holy Roman cultural era and forsees the disastrous collapse of civilisation and spiritual decline occasioned by the First World War.
@@willowsparks4576 The first and final movements were complete. There was a lot more than just a few notes and sketches at the time of his death. The completion by several musicians have, to me, as a Mahler afficionado, the sound of Mahler. Of course one cannot be certain of Mahler's final intentions, especially as he so often revised his work, but the completion of the 10th feels an honest , respectful and commendable effort.
We are so fortunate to have this video available!!!!!!!!!!!
To think that Mahler was near death yet only 50 years old when he wrote this. The closing bars of the finale are of such profound beauty and have such a sense of finality, that one wonders where Mahler could have gone after this, if had lived 10 20 or 30 years more. It truly seems to say - I have finished - I have no more to say. So profound and beautiful.
I think it's the greatest 'what if' in all of music. Well, western 'classical' music, anyway. The expressionistic moments point towards Alban Berg, yet the second movement - with its many measures of mixed meters (2 and 3 beat patterns) - anticipates Stravinsky. Some late Mahler even sort of resembles Kurt Weill. But even personally, what turmoil it might have been.
Would he and Alma have remained married? If so, would she have been miserable? If not, would Mahler have been even more devastated? Would Mahler have moved to America? Would he have taken a university or conservatory teaching position? If Mahler had stayed in Austria, would he have had enough political clout to stop Hitler (that's a stretch, I know)? Would Mahler been completely shattered by the senseless slaughter in WWI? Could he have survived and thrived, the way Alma did? It's a lot of stuff to ponder.
Of course Mahler wouldn't have had ANY political clout to stop Hitler, I fear. WWI would indeed have shattered him completely - the spectacle of his prophesy's in the Sixth Symphony coming true!
One frequently listens to the Ninth and think the same, yet this Tenth so brilliantly completed by Cooke is in my opinion the most indispensable of Mahler works. A sophisticated, deeply conscious mind like that of Mahler never ends confronting the idea of life and death, especially after the tragedy of the loss of child, the loss of youth, the loss of health, and above all, betrayal that shakes the foundations of one's very being. So often was Mahler thrown in deep darkness, and always emerged with the dignity of a man who nourished the love of mankind; and made music out of it. He could have created more, but had already lived much, it is one of life's greatest gifts that we can be overtaken by his music.
@@fredrickroll06 Mahler was Jewish. It's possible he would've fled.
@@whatafreakinusername He was aready working in New York. If his health had been good, he could have returned there. Whether or not his heart was broken in every sense of the word is another matter.
I love Mahler. When you listen to Mahler you live in his world because he created an entire world in the hour+ that the symphonies last. We wallow in Mahler. That is a good thing. This symphony was breaking new ground for him. Great performance. Great to hear, excuse me , wallow in this performance!
Mahler is one of the four great composers of all time , I think, he sits after Bach, Beethoven and Wagner
@@siamakanbarani4977Please add Mozart to your greatest list.
I heard this live in concert by the Minnesota Orchestra this weekend (twice!) under Osmo Vanska. I have waited DECADES to hear this live. I have always loved the 1st movt, but the rest took some time and now I see this symphony as being utterly remarkable and unforgettable. The Scherzo is the best he ever wrote - the Finale is a fitting end to Mahler's life.
Vanska did an incredible job - I won't say better than Seguin but different and equally wonderful. I was in the second row - I was in tears at the end. The hall was sold out - what an experience.
It will be recorded this week - I can't wait for its release. Thank God Alama didn't burn the manuscript as he had asked!
It’s out now - by far my favorite recording. Vanska got the end of the 1st scherzo exactly right
Which scherzo
Truly the epitome of musical art. This performance is now my favorite, absolutely. Thank you all who were involved in this production. ❤
Mahler‘s true and final farewell.
And to think that we could well have been deprived of it all! Of that now famous first movement with its devastating catastrophe chord. Or this last movement with its heartbreaking flute melody, or its elevating last reconciliation with the world. If people like Cooke didn't dare to try to complete it. Or, who knows, if Alma had simply destroyed it. What good fortune that we are able to hear it. Maybe Mahler would have changed it again and a lot (as he did with "completed" symphonies), but the melodic material is there, and it would have stayed, I'm sure. So, it’s nothing short of a miracle that it was saved.
The Cooke completion is one of 20th century art's great miracles.
One of the greatest!
O my God. That last movement...so chillingly beautiful. It has the same atmosphere as the 9th.
Thank you Gustav Mahler. What more would you have written.. a haunting question
I once read that 90% of this symphony is Mahler's own thing
I can't even imagine how beautiful it would be if Mahler himself completed this symphony
It's a matter of how you rate Mahler's work process. One can say it is 90% Mahler, one can also say it is only 70% Mahler.
What is true that there are no bars missing in the sketch. It runs from start to finish, nothing is missing. But the orchestration is only completed about 30%. And since Mahler liked to sometimes cut passages and write new ones as he finished the score in full orchestration, it is not to be said that he wouldn't have done that again while working on this Symphony.
But as opposed to Mozart's Requiem the work is completed in draft and can therefore be performed by orchestrating the draft and without the need to compose entire movements or passages that were not sketched by Mahler.
@@Quotenwagnerianer Agree, and I feel that almost certainly he would have made major changes, edits, additions of new sections and new orchestration to this one, had he lived to finish it. Not least because the subject matter was so personal and private, and highly sensitive both to himself and to Alma. Some of the most dramatic touches we're hearing here came only at a late stage of the composition of the draft (like the "terror chords" climax of the opening Adagio).
I also think he wpuld have fleshed out the orchestration of the finale to give it more weight and volume - it sounds good here to us, but that's also because we can go back and listen again, raise the volume at some points etc. Mahler. living long before the age of LPs or CDs, would not have wanted to see a 25-minute finale that largely plays out in just pp or ppp and with near chamber-like settings in many passages, he knew that was just about unacceptable in a symphonic finale.
He did, but imperfectly. He was otherwise engaged at the time.
I'm rather more of a Bruckner man myself but if I had to take any Mahler symphony to my desert island it would be No 10 or No 9 as my second choice . The slow movements are truly gorgeous and if Mahler had composed nothing else in his life he would deserve his place in music history for these alone.
Yes, I totally agree.
Bruckner and Mahler in my opinion inhabit the same world. Mahler for me has the edge, though that is in no way to disparage Bruckner whose music I would happily have on my desert island. If you like Bruckner's motets try Mahler's 8th, so much to admire there, not least the final Chorus Mysticus.
Mahler 5 and Bruckner 8 for me
Totally agree. I love Mahler 6 and Bruckner 7.
Bruckner was Mahler's composition teacher in Vienna, so there is a definite kinship of course. Bruckner would have loved Mahler's 2nd and 3rd symphonies if he had lived to hear them.
RUclips deleted my previous account. I therefore wish to post my appreciation once more of this excellent performance and the excellent broadcast. Mahler's 10th symphony affects me profoundly from the shattering scream in the first movement, surely one of the most astonishing moments in music, to the very final closing bars. I can well understand why the lady violinist at the end of the performance has tears rolling down her cheeks - and a remarkable measure of how moving this work and the performance were. I admired how the conductor held the audience captive at the end before the applause and indeed all respect to the audience for allowing that moment of transition from the world of Mahler to the present. Mahler has been my companion for almost forty years and I hope to depart this world with his music sending me to my final rest.
Mahler's music is Indeed a gift from God, it has been used to bring people towards God and closer to Him
To Christ, the Messiah
@SirGreenVine Mahler's music is not a gift from God but the result of intense effort and dedication by a man. To say otherwise is an insult to the composer and to belittle his talent. Mahler's music may make you feel closer to your deity, but as someone who has listened to Mahler for 40 years, it has brought me closer to sharing the common human shared experience of life itself with all its vissicitudes.
@@AGMundy
Mahler's music is wonderful
By chance I came across this version of Mahler's "tenth symphony" a little over a year ago, and it seemed to me to be one of the most wonderful performances I have ever heard.
Excellent the innate talent of the young Director Yannick Nézet-Séguin, the "tempo" is extraordinary and since it is a recent recording, the use of digital technology allows to have a splendid, wide, sublime, wonderful sound.
If I'm not wrong, it's Deryck Cooke's version that's played. Please listen to it in full, one can be completely absorbed and astonished, because in this symphony, just as Mozart wrote his own "Requiem", Mahler wrote his own funeral and the purgatory of all the vicissitudes of his entire conflictive life, full of deep mixed feelings, in a single word Extraordinary! .....
That flute section at 57:32 is so quiet and gentle, but at the same time it's so painful and sad. It sounds like suffering in stillness and absolute loneliness. It's one of the most touching, heartbreaking and beautiful sections of the whole piece.
I love how the guy next to her is just feeling it.
@@EminAnimE1 He looks like he is trying to hold it together and not get carried away.
Those violas... gets me crying every time, it’s so beautiful I could tear my hair out
This solo of flute 57:20, so heartbreaking. The man just aside, closing his eyes, moving his front when a perfect note is playing, enjoy this so profondly.
Muy buena interpretación. Gracias
Let us not forget Deryck Cooke - 2nd version ( RIP 1989) for making this wonderful piece of music a realitiy. I concur with the last = the finale is heart braking - and gorgeous!
Indeed we have a debt to Mr Cooke who I think showed sensitivity and tact. After listening to Mahler's 10th, I feel as if transported to another sphere and am thankful that I can appreciate such astonishing and profound music. The scream in the first movement is surely one of the most agonising moments in symphonic music, the flute in the final movement - always for Mahler a messenger of hope, almost too much to bear and those final bars, simply fulfilling and resigned.
Deryck Cooke died in 1976 two months after his revised version was published. This 1989 version was made by his collaborators years after his death. Some wrong notes are corrected which I'm sure Cooke would have approved of. But there are arbitrary and unnecessary changes to the orchestration that I doubt Cooke would have approved of.
@@remomazzetti8757 Surely the more relevant conjecture is whether *Mahler* would have approved. About that I'm not sure. After the Adagio, I must confess this symphony - or rather the symphonic scaffolding that is there - loses me. Is it 'saying' anything?
When I listen to Mahler I frequently fall into a deep sleep somewhere in the first movement, and wake up an hour or so later in the last movement - totally relaxed. It feels like waking up from an anesthesia. Mahler is kind of addictive. More I hear, more I want.
I have been ignorant about Mahler. Last month , the curtains of ignorant lifted and I am discovering a new universe.
Ravishing conducting from Maestro Nézet-Séguin ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Apart from the excellent performance the camerawork is as good: many total shots and not moving around all the time.
One wishes all video's to be like this.
This is mahlers greatest work.
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@@romanbotero3854 completely wrong
I’d certainly put the Adagio up with the best, but not perhaps the rest of it, beautiful as much of it is. For me it’s impossible to decide which symphony is ‘the greatest’. As they all contain greatness. There is something of a consensus that the 6th is possibly the most perfect. And the immaculate 4th.
Adagio 0:00
Scherzo 26:05
Purgatorio. Allegro Moderato 38:25
Scherzo. Allegro Pesante. Nicht zu schnell 43:08
Finale. Langsam, schwer 55:13
Thank you very much!
Thanks! ^_^
The third movement is marked Allegretto Moderato by Mahler not Allegro Moderato. The tempo markings at the beginning of the forth and fifth movements are by Cooke: Mahler did mark the central section of the "Allegro Moderato " .
To add to my comment below - I noticed the woman in the violin section in tears at the end. So am i - this is one of the most profoundly beautiful conclusiona in the entire musical literature. The only thing comparable that immediately comes to mind is the Thomas Tallis Fantasia.
@Alan Mundy I do know the Serenade to Music.
1:20:47 - The 1st violinist was in tears! And so was I.
A monumental masterpiece.
I remember me playing this piece in a concert as a violinist when suddenly tears were rolling down my face during the 1:14:50 passage. It was a beautiful moment but also kind of embarrassing as I couldn't wipe them away that moment
Notice the quote from isoldes Liebestod, too, high in the soaring strings beginning around 1:01:25 and leading up to that blunt "clubbing down" drum stroke...an extremely telling moment.
Congratulations! A wonderful Interpretation of a splendid Symphonie!
Many great works of art are the result of collaboration, and this is one !
Ads in the middle of this master piece is a No Please! 😩
Perhaps you can try using an ad blocker on your system. However, I'm not in a position to tell you or recommend which one to use. Good luck to you.
You just need to go to the end of the video then click replay to start watching! All the adds will have disappeared!
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A magnificent video for the camera work and the recording. I must confess I shed tears during the flute solo at the start of the final movement. This is the first time I have listened to the entire symphony since my 1976 LPs by Wynne Morris, and must say the faster movements were hardly recognizable to me. The orchrestration seems to have been filled out so beautifully.
Thank you NPO Rdaio 4.
This is probably my favourite symphony by Mahler.
the last movement from minute 1:10:35 to the end, is the key to everything...A Master Piece
Gorgeous beyond words! Thank you Mahler and Derryck Cooke!
Every piece of Mahler's music is my favorite! I never tire of listening to his every work. Ever since I heard Kathleen Ferrier's Abschied from Das Lied von der Erde (Bruno Walter's) as a child I've hungered for more Mahler. I've heard so many wonderful concerts and recordings of the great Gustav!
I agree. As I say in my own comment Mahler has been a companion for almost 40 years. I never tire of listening to his music. Over the years my preferred symphony varies with this and No.8, my top picks - the 10th though will always remain there. It is astonishing in its expression. The shattering scream in the first movement is almost too much to bear and the finale is sublime, with the flute solo so beautiful and filled with such hope. Enjoy, forever.
마음이 찢어졌다 부풀었다 절망하다가 마침내 벅차오르면서 끝나네
Mahler, for me is as precious as Bach, Beethoven and great figured of Persian poetry like Ferdousi and Rumi.
Whatever caveats might be made about the completion of this work, I wouldn't take ANYTHING for the final ten minutes of this symphony, Mahler's final thoughts on the paradox.... pain and exultation... of living... and the poignancy that it's all soon to end. Such profound insight... the resolution and acceptance that then gives us one final gesture of yearning and aspiration. Magnificent.
What a beautiful concert. Mahler would have been so proud. This would have been his best symphony or should I say, it is. You can just tell that Mahler new his life was coming to an end. With that said, we all know what a great composer he was. The playing of the Rotterdam Philharmonisch Orkest was outstanding. A job very very well done. Thank you for posting this.
Yes, a great work by a man with remarkable courage and integrity. All of his three great post-1907 works are confrontations/conversations with the spectre of Death, of human mortality, and his *own* mortality - though it's not the only topic they take on, of course. Death is certainly present in this final drafted symphony, for sure, he is unmistakably addressing it on some levels, and it's both tragic and ironically right that the Reaper claimed him before Mahler had the time to finish the work - or the time to survive and write more great masterpieces.
If he had lived to finish the 10th, there are certainly some things he would have changed or reworked, especially in the two Scherzi - also I think the orchestral texture of the finale would have been more fleshed out at many points. In Cooke's version it is very low and almost like a subdued chamber piece a lot of the time, which is logical because Cooke didn't want to make too many guesses about instrumentation or layering of the score - but Mahler knew that it would not work with a finale lasting for more than rwenty minutes played largely in ppp with just a few instruments. It works fairly well on CD where we can go back and listen at leisure, listen for details and uincover new things in the music - or refer to the CD after a live performance in the concert hall - but back in 1910 the *only* way to hear a work like this was in live performance! - and this would affect the structure and the sound.
I'm also thinking that if Mahler had survived his illness, and perhaps lived for another twenty years in good health, we wouldn't have knpwn near as much about the background of the work - his serious stress and overwork, his worries about the future, the triangle drama with Alma and Gropius and so on. Alma felt free to address some of this stuff in public, especially the affair with Gropius, precisely because Mahler was now dead and out of the way, leaving her free to marry Walter Gropius. If Mahler had survived his illness this wouldn't have been possible, unless the marriage had ended in an acrimonious break and divorce - which again would have made all of them very unwilling to tell about the events of 1910 as a continuous and understandable story. Mahler might even have decided that he could never let the work be performed as a whole, because it was so closely tied to these painful events, and too private. So Mahler's death made sure that this music could only be heard half a century later, after two world wars had rolled by and many of his friends and colleagues were dead - but without his death we might never have heard it in full at all, and we would not have heard it within the frame of context we are hearing it now.
My absolute favorite symphony of all time. The Adagio gets me every time.
Flute-solo section starts at 57:21, main theme of the finale at 1:09:07.
My favourites are 2&3 whereas, when I was younger it was 1&4. Just cried my eyes out at the 8th finale and then found this which is fabulous. Great to see another diversity dimension in the conductor. I've just watched Susanna Mälkki so having an openly gay male is exciting too. I must have listened to the 10th a few times so credit to this lot for holding my attention so well. Many thanks.
A very moving performance of what may be Mahler's most personal work, suggesting the anguish he must have felt with death so close. Its dark mood reminds me of Sibelius' 4th symphony, written around the same time, although Sibelius was a long way from death. The sound and camera work here are exceptional.
This is one of the most beautiful renditions of the opening adagio I've ever heard ...
Regretting I did not hear this at the Proms last night, forgot what a marvellous piece it is.
He finished the 1st and 3rd movements, but had finished the rest to near completion. It's always been my favorite Mahler symphony. It's very intense and occasionally quite weird, but more should know of Derek Cooke's great achievement and Mahler's incomparable legacy. Thanks and best
"Near completion" is a bit of an overstatement - there is a roughly continuous musical argument to follow through the work, but he would have spent time on revising and rewriting several sections. The second movement was a rather chaotic and half-finished sketch, still in a state of flux when he left it. And the haunting climax of the opening Adagio, with the "horror chord" and the siren-like trumpet call was almost an afterthought. I think Mahler would have added to the orchestration of some parts of the finale too; Cooke only wrote in what he felt he could be reasonably sure Mahler would also have done.
Cooke's versions are great, but they are performance versions, renderings of where the symphony had got to when Mahler put it aside in September 1910 to turn to other work (he never found the time to continue with this one, of course) - not really a final completion.
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Outstanding! This is an excellent interpretation, bravo Yannick and the Rotterdam Philharmonic!! The orchestra once again shows its excellence. The Netherlands is blessed with several very good orchestras. I would list the RPO second only to the RCO (Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra). Just my opinion...
Agreed!
Not to mention that in the Netherlands there is a large tradition of outstanding Mahlerian conductors and orchestras, starting with Willem Mengelberg, who put Mahler's music in the place which deserves.
I greatly admire the productions which ignore the purists and let us experience the fullness of the final years of the Romantic era in Cooke's careful and considerate completion. If Mahler himself could honor Beethoven with the ninth, Cooke could honor Mahler with his permission.
Without a doubt, Mahler led Cooke's hand.
This symphony's last part to be used to japanese SF-anime Legend of the Galactic Heroes's final episode,part 110's last scene.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes is written by Japanese auther Yoshiki Tanaka in 1982 to 1987.
Both is magnificent and grandiose ending.
I love this symphony finished version.
Thank you brilliant footage uploaded!
1:17:48 "when the night settles in, it'll get busy, it's better to be busy- to fill this sense of loss"
There are musical moments when being at a live performance one feels transformed, transfigured to another world. An accomplished performance like this would surely be one. I have been fortunate enough to experience a few such moments of ecstasy - all those who experience Mahler viscerally almost will understand what I mean.
These advertisements are a crime!!! How can you interrupt this music like that?
Un adagio stupendo che ti fa pensare il vero significato della vita.... Mahler e unico e più gli anni passano e più Mahler e capito che un compositore del domani...
I feel that the fact that it is unfinished and slightly reconstructed is make this symphony more perfect, refined and mahlerian what could she be
52:57 oh ... is this phrasing beautiful .... and the celli at 53:06 fantastic ... !
wat een prachtige, verpletterende en meeslepende uitvoering op 21 April jl in de Doelen. Deze symfonie raakt mijn ziel zo diep.
Bravo dirigent en orkest, geweldig!!!
Al festival di Lucerna (2016), stessa orchestra, stesso direttore... ancora più bello! Magnifico Nezet Seguin!!!
the sweetest elegiac ethereal death melody ever. he was truly seeing the gates of the afterworld. this is music's peak.
La décima es una maravilla, con todo lo que Mahler quiere comunicar y legar, pero la interpretación es excepcional. Gracias.
andante cantablie - Beethoven 3rd op 125 9th or the 100 bars or so Mahler wrote here in the finale... either way,Glorious and I am in tears! Man I wished that man had lived longer and composed more beauty.
Just beautiful!! Sad though that we only can watch it here on youtube. Wish I could have it on dvd or bluray. The conductor Nezet-Seguin is just great!
Great Symphony & Performance~!!! Thank You So Much~!!!!!
mind blowing
Surely one of the most profoundly affecting passages in all music occurs in Movt. 5, with the flute solo and the music, largely for strings, that follows.
Agreed
This is Mahler’s most devastating music; the finale is gut wrenching, leaves me in bits every time. The tears of the players at the end say it all. The music (melody and basic harmonic scheme) is all Mahler’s. Unlike say the Mozart requiem, which gets plenty more performances. Perhaps because Mahler was such a wonderful and unpredictable orchestrator, we perceive that we have little idea of how the details of this might have turned out…
100 bars of the most bittersweet music ever conceived - wet eyes.. andante cantabile
Espetacular, magnífico, belíssimo: Bravo!!!!!
Un marcador de tiempos y entradas... Son los tiempos que corren.
57:31 The brilliant flautist broke everyone's heart
gracias. un auténtico regalo
Side note while listening: a serious concert hall requires a pipe organ. New York City does not have such hall. The Lincoln center concert venue was renovated at 500 million dollars!!! but the organ is not there.
Thanks a lot!
LUCERNA 2016! Stessa orchestra stesso direttore! Ancora più bello! MAGNIFICO!!!
at 56:20, the video shakes because of the loud drum beat and then again around 56:58 - that's some visual effect!
How is it that you missed both of them. 😂😂😂😂
Mahler was certainly not out of great ideas ar the end! Some of his most clever and affecting music. Profound.
Uche kuche hoest proest. Niet bepaald melodieus, en gebeurt volledig expres. Misselijk.
Gelukkig enkel duidelijk hoorbaar tussen de stukken in.
/Edit: heb zojuist het stuk uitgekeken, het was geweldig! *^_^*
Whoever said that the camera work is great....well,... were you watching?
I wish the ads wouldn't interrupt abruptly, but I guess I have to pay for Premium.
the andante cantaible is a rich reworking of Mahler's beloved Bach - pick a composition. Close to the end - it is amazing what you think of. Love the man - 100 years later. I had the honor of attending a recital at the University of Jakarta on 18 May 2011 - songs of the wayfarer were on the menu! As well as Kindertotenlier.
🎹 I attended the world premier of Cooke's completed performing version of Mahler's 10th. I believe it was at Carnegie Hall under Eugene Ormandy. 🎹
コンセルトヘボウ、二階席に作曲家の名前のプレートが埋め込まれています。その中央、指揮者の背中のど正面が「MAHLER」です。この曲17:55大好き。
Magnifico.
Just beautiful!! If only there was a physical dvd with this🥹🎶🎼
Much like his 8th, the soul rises up into eternity. The 10th, however, describes the Artist's soul, moving on to the finale of life, while saying goodbye both to Earth and it's population, and a new beginning towards the afterlife. It's no accident that this symphony calls back to Hans Rott's only Symphony in Emajor, Mahler's Das Klagende Lied (Final notes of this are from Klagende's 2nd movement), and also providing a 'yang' to his 9th's 'Yin' (Mahler commonly utilizes similar concepts such as Duality / Taoism.
wonderful performance
Fantastic performance, what a masterpiece - but the interrupting commercials are killing me 🥶🥵
57:34 ff. has the most beautiful flute passage on earth - actually not from earth but from heaven !!
Not really
Amsterdam, actually.
Remarkable performance
Love it!!!!
yannick kom weer zo snel mogelijk naar rotterdam zodat je samen met rpho ons kunt onderdompelen in de gelweldige muziek maud
Een uitstekende prestatie door een prachtige orkest in een van de mooiste concert-hallen van Europa. Maar waarom is de naam van een mezzo-sopraan opgenomen wanneer deze symfonie is gecomponeerd voor orkest alleen?
absolutamente exquisita!!!!
Mahler Symfonie nr 10. De aquí al cielo.
Oof, the top chord near 53:05, just the build up to that section feels like fate robbing you away from something. It even comes back at 1:04:44!
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