The TRUTH About Girlfriends | Drama On The Set? Why Did Toni Disappear? Why Did It Get Canceled?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Screenwriter and producer Mara Brock Akil knew what was like to feel invisible. In 1999 she looked around Hollywood and saw an extinction underway: Black women, and their stories, being written out of primetime TV. At the time, the then 30-year-old was putting the finishing touches on her first network show, a sitcom for UPN called Girlfriends. A new millennium was on the horizon, and she wasn’t going to let the future begin without Black women front and centre.
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One of the funniest running jokes in the Girlfriends series was Toni calling Jabari different names lol
She needed to get it together lol. She knew his damn name😂
@@TheRetroWoman80 yea she definitely did Maya and Jabari kept correcting her lol
Yes, I believe she said “Jimberee” one time and I couldn't stop laughing 😂
@@ochukoasiafor5834 when she called him jungle gym I died 😂😂
@@ochukoasiafor5834 🤭🤣
We need a “GIRLFRIENDS THE MOVIE”. With Toni returning. I have a full script in mind already!
💯 agree if Sex and the city got theirs (2 actually) then Girlfriends definitely deserve this movie
Girl!!! Yes!!!
This would be better than a reboot. 👍🏾
White folks are only going to call it the black sex, and the city
The one show that actually deserves to be brought back in some way!!
Girlfriends is my comfort TV, I could watch it all day every day. Toni was by far my favorite, I always love a self centered diva the most lol, but I genuinely enjoyed the seasons after she left and thought Monica fit right in well. They NEED a movie to give us closure.
Right? And do it before Tracee Ellis Ross ("Joan") goes on to her next TV or movie project.
I can’t take Monica 🤦🏽♀️
Same, I love this show & Living Single
Same!!!!!!
@@The1NaMillionneed a living single reunion for sure
Im not a fan of reboots but i think a 10-episode reboot to give real closure would be good for girlfriends. It ended with joan's fiancee returning home soon & her & toni never got to resolve their issues.
That would interesting to watch.
By now, Morgan should be about to graduate high school and Jabari should be married with children. Maybe Morgan wants to go to school in California and her and Toni go there from New York and Toni runs into Joan.
Joan still has her restaurant but teaches a course at UCLA as an adjunct professor while being married to Aaron.
Mya is a young grandmother and Lynn adopted a child.
Idk I’m just coming up with stuff.
@thebuttermilkgirlisback, don't forget William. He and Monica were going to have a baby.
@@msrain1235 I know, but I’m not sure if they’ll add him unless the actor gets his weight down.
Yeah a mini series... would love this for this show and a few others as well....
I loved Maya and Darnell’s storyline! From the break up to the reconciliation-not to mention Darnell was a nutritious snack to look at. Their scenes were raw and real. Well done !!!
He did his thang ❤️
My only problem with Darnell was him always trying to hold Mya back from bettering herself with going back to school. It was so sad to see a man so insecure in not wanting to see his own wife flourish. That separation was needed for Mya's growth.
@@saramatthews7159yess and this is why I liked how they showcased that plot. Her being a young mom trying to make it work with her first love while pursuing her career is so relatable for a lot of these women fr
Which Darnell did you prefer? Flex Alexander? Or Khalil Kain?
Darnell was a typical male. He cheated and Maya forgave him. She cheated and he packed up and left.
The Game has been rebooted twice. They can reboot this series, if not give it a proper ending.
Toni Childs is in my list of the most stuck up characters along with Whitley from A Different World, Hilary from Fresh Prince, Regine from Living Single, Martiza from Taina, LaCienaga from The Proud Family, Sandra from 227, Stephanie from Newhart, Blanche from The Golden Girls and last but not least Blair from The Facts of Life
dont forget Blanche from Golden Girls
You folks, left out Stephanie Vanderkellen (Julia Duffy) from Newhart and obviously, Sandra Clark (Jackée Harry ) from 227
Blair and Maritza must not be forgotten!
Add Suzanne Sugarbaker from Designing Women
Jacqueline Broyer (Robin Givens) from _Boomerang_ is the consummate "female player."
And has anyone else noticed that burgeoning networks use black shows to gain traction, then pivot to white shows that (in their mind) draw more lucrative advertisers once established.
Absolutely. All the way back to A Different World
Yes, the newly revamped DABL network now has only Black shows including Girlfriends, The Game, Moesha., etc.
They always copy BLACK SHOWS AND BLACK LIFE. THEY WANT TO BE YOU. BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO STOP TRYING TO BE LIKE WHITE FOLKS REALIZE THEY WANT TO BE YOU!!!!! THE COOLEST THING IN HISTORY IS TO BE BLACK!
That's not true 😕 yall Americans are obsessed with race 🙄 there's a lot of white or mixed shows around that time and more that got canceled at 1 or 2 season where as girlfriends lasted longer but more times its about writing and viewing if a lot of ppl aren't watching the show u expect these big companies to still keep it on without any sure backing the tv industry is cutthroat and not for the weak
@@aliyaheubanks4477mind your business.
I was soooo angry when this show was cancelled! I was also upset about Half & Half being cancelled too! I wish they would do a reboot of both shows❤. Hey, all the cast members are still living🤷🏾♀️
Me too
I like Half&half, but could never get into girlfriends!! Tried watching it and got bored. 🤷♂️
Girlfriends premiered on the same day as 106 & Park on September 11th 2000
wow!!! i miss TV
Oh wow that’s right cool fact! Thanks!
The only show I've binged watch more than 3x on Netflix ❤❤❤
I watch it every night, I can’t sleep without it lol
Same
This was right on time! Girlfriends was a GREAT show. It deserved a final episode. In Shawn Wayans voice from Scary Movie! 😂❤
I loved the early seasons. Good show in general, but later seasons had a lot of drama, while the early ones were such a wonderful breeze of early 2000s
Facts
Thank you for this beautiful breakdown behind our favorite girls. Girlfriends did incredible for them not to have a strong marketing campaign behind the show. Along with the strong acting, that says a lot about the writers.
I think they should do a spinoff show called boyfriends (four men who live in NYC, one, gay, one straight, one pansexual, and one who is celibate)
@@yell0wberry oh my! You know, that could be interesting!
@@ReigningWomban if you or anybody else can possibly get in touch with the creator of the girlfriends sitcom, please feel more free to toss the idea at them
Twenty plus years later, I'm still in love with Tracee Ellis Ross' hair and Keesha Sharp's smile. I've been waiting for this one. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much! 🥰
@@JuicyPopEntertainmenthey can you guys do one on Roc. Loved that show. By the way these are great. Thank you very much.
@@ericgaskins571 I always loved the original theme song to _Roc._
That really was a great show.
Me too
I grew up on this show and was so sad to see it go. My mother and I made it a ritual to watch this together; this is one of my fondest memories.
Me too! It’s cool to know someone that did the same thing too. ✨🧡
Me too
This sitcom deserved a better finale. Can we please get stories on the following shows:
The Bernie Mac Show
My Wife & Kids
Mad TV
Eve
Half & Half
All Of Us
The Proud Family
The Boondocks
Everybody Hates Chris
The Game
Lincoln Heights
Half & Half left such a cliffhanger with Mona and whether she would choose Chase or Lorenzo. I'd love to hear from Rachel (Mona) which one she would've chosen for her character.
@@AlmondJoie It was revealed years ago who Mona would have chosen had it not been canceled.
@@LoveableNiki Really? Oh well do tell! Was it something that Rachel True aka Mona shared? Is there a link?
@@AlmondJoie It was years ago. I believe it was the writer/creator. Mona would have chosen Chase.
@@LoveableNiki That's interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Girlfriends definitely deserved a proper ending it ended on a cliffhanger just like Smart Guy, That's so Raven, The Jeffersons, The Wayans Bros, Family Matters, Moesha, and many other shows that also ended on a cliffhanger as well
The Parkers
@@muffymariah2889the Parker’s had a infinite ending with the wedding, I guess it felt kind of lackluster.
Didn’t everybody hates Chris also end on a cliffhanger?
"Star" was another show I wish they would have given another season. 😣 Totally ended on a cliff hanger.
@@yell0wberry Yes. It ended with Chris opening his GED results.
I had a house at 27 years old…but didn’t learn to drive until I turned 39. So, there’s something to that theory.
Jill Marie Jones also appeared in Ne-Yo's She Got Her Own video along with Teyana Taylor, Malika and Khadijah Haqq, Estelle, Eve and Keyshia Cole
Love this show. Season 1-6 is top tier.
When Toni childs left the show..it went in the Toilet
Clicked on this so fast😂,always wondered why Toni left
She said because her contract was up after 6 years. She chose not to renew it
Me too
CW used every black show once they put them in the map and then robbed them
I didn't know Angie sung this. She was also in an episode. Wow. I miss this show and was PISSED that Toni left. It went downhill after that.
Flex Alexander later went on to star on One on One, speaking of One on One I hope you do a story on One on One
Those college seasons were trash
Those men back then were so handsome… Flex, Khalil… and let’s not forget Allen Payne
I wonder why they didn’t get the notoriety they deserved like these dudes of today such as Omari Harwdwick
William is and will always be my favorite character😩❤️
He rounded out the group, I was sad he wasn’t in the appearance in blackish it felt like something was missing.
I loved the show but as a single black woman watching in my 20’s, I thought Joan was just too needy for men as a executive and independent woman. I loved Reggie Hayes as well. His character should have married Joan! This show was the black answer to Sex and The City. Persia White started on the Cosby Show. Thank you Kelsey Grammar for producing the show. It sucked it didn’t have a real ending. It also sucked I wasn’t available for reruns for years.
Don't remember Persia ever being on there. Any specific episodes to jog my memory?
@@TheRetroWoman80I think Cindeed is mistaking Persia for Lisa.
I thought I read she was in an episode of Cosby Show as a child. I must have been thinking of Alicia Keys. I checked her credits. It was not listed unless she was uncredited.
@@cindeed4422 Oh gotcha. Yeah Alicia definitely.
It was honest for Gen X women.
Why can't they make shows like this anymore. You have a show about strong successful black women with a successful black male friend and they were normal just people. Now a days they have to be a bunch of perfect superwomen who are better than their pathetic male counterparts.
I loved this show. It filled a void left by Living Single. It’s sad how both shows had no real ending with all their characters.
But somehow Sex and the City was brought back with two movies and a show!!! Fuller House and Rosanne also. Smh
You know why.🤔
One of the best shows to ever air! I wish we could've gotten a real ending for it but that's the industry😒
I will say that episode of Lynn’s sister acting black bothers me because she said the n word then at the end of the episode, she still acting the same 🤦🏽♂️
Yep and that is how alot of non black people are in real life. Want to be part of the black culture but don't want the struggle or respect black women /black men.
"Gotcha Day" Yeah she was Rachel Dolezal first
A VERY telling episode! VERY real yet a lot of our folks put up with this. 🙄
That episode was a mess
@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302 I actually decided to stop being friends with someone who is like this. Idk why she kept bringing the n word up. It's like she wanted to say it around me so bad. Better yet she did and I had to put her in her place. Talking about how she sings it while listening to rap music, but still wanted that yt Trump preferential treatment
The story seems to have changed regarding why Jill Marie Jones left the show. I remember this happening in real time back in the day, and remember the story being that she was leaving because the four of them were trying to negotiate a raise, which if they didn’t get they were gonna strike. When they didn’t get the raise, the other 3 caved in and didn’t strike, and I remember it being said that Tracee Ellis Ross said “sorry, I’ve gotta keep my job”. Jill felt some type of way about them not keeping their word, so she left.
Whatever happened, it’s good to see they reconciled because Girlfriends is a classic! I wish BET would’ve done what they did with The Game, and rebooted it.
No BET please
One of my favorite shows I can rewatch girlfriends over and over again and not get tired. Topics in this show are relevant for today's adults.
Great story on Girlfriends
The most shocking thing for me is that Angie Stone sang the shows theme song.🤷🏽♀️
They did that wonderful show dirty. I'm still upset to this day.
But the theme song by Angie Stone still makes my heart😊
This always happens to black shows that do well I recently found and binged watched underground...the networks no matter how they sugar coat it don't like black shows having positive longevity especially in the black homes...they'd rather have shows like Maury and Jerry Springer tell us who they think we are instead of learning who we could better become....
Girlfriends was my mf’n show!!!!
I binged watched Girlfriends back in 2021, I loved watching it. I wish it got a proper season finale. I wonder were only shows that survived moving to the CW were the WB shows over the UPN shows?
Joan’s house was passed down through her family from her grandmother, to her mother and then her.
All these good shows ended because of the writers strike. Please do a video about Half and Half.
That was also one of my favorite shows I can't believe it ended on a cliff hanger as well i'd wanna know what happened as well
Loveeeeddd that show!
Love girlfriends! Give us a Netflix movie !!! I don’t need the show back but we deserve closure . What happened to the restaurant? Did Lynn become a rockstar? Did maya stay in Victorville ? Did Tony come back …. We need answers .
Maiya was My Favorite Girlfriend.
She was Pretty, Sassy, & No nonsense.
2:34 Makes sense.
Living Single or Girlfriends- who you got? I got Living Single.
Living Single
It's a tie, to be honest.
Living Single.
Both❤❤❤
Def living single
My favorite show! I watch this religiously every year. Joan and William were my favorites.
Mya was Joan's ride or die
Their friendship was very interesting
One of my all time favorite shows
Please cover shows 106 and Park and Rap City!
Man I loved this show. Def one of those shows that was better then so much on TV, not just black shows, but one of the great SHOWS of the CW/UPN era that got neglected in the end.
I think a made for TV movie should be done for Girlfriends. They deserved a proper ending and never got it.
I could relate to the comment at 2:27. I make good money and have my own house, yet I don't drive a luxury car either. The main difference between me and Joan is that instead of driving a Toyota Camry, I drive a Honda Accord😆😆.
I miss them 🥺🥺🥺
Tonie was my favorite, followed by Mya . Tonie's standards were never lowered for herself and she thrived in it .Miya was ALWAYS 💯 .
As great as Toni was, she was the Messiest of all of them
This is a great video about a great show. Thank you for all your hard work my sister 😊
I know this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I didn’t care for the friendship dynamics between the “girlfriends.” They all seemed like frenemies to me. But, it was still a pretty good show.
I miss girlfriends 😭💔
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😂 The fact that she left because she wanted to do movies and didn't get any movie roles..😮 she was only barely black famous. Bless her ❤
Yes!!! Made no sense. And the fact that she just left so abruptly was such a diva move.
Wrong. Jill was the most popular of all 4. Her King Magazine sold out. What?
@@Leydo773yep…agreed..
Juicy Pop I absolutely love your channel. I had the biggest crush on all four cast members of Girlfriends, and they still look hot to this day. They were the LA version of Living Single and gave birth to shows like Half & Half and Run The World. IMO I think the show ended because of all the Reality TV shows that were airing in the mid 2000's on VH1 like "Strange Love, Flavor of Love, I Love New York, Bret Michael's Rock of Love, From G's to Gents, A Shot of Love with Tila Tequila(Those two was on MTV) I Love Money, Real Chance of Love, For the Love of Ray-J. Those shows brought in a lot of ratings people were glued and still glued to Reality TV. But Girlfriends was still a great show.
Imagine leaving a hot show to act in movies and not really being in many 🤦🏾♀️
👀🤣🤣🤣
You think she thought the show wouldn't succeed without her? A lot of the fans certainly believed the show wasn't the same without her.🤷🏽♀️
She took a chance and unfortunately it didn’t work out in her favor. There are many actors who left tv shows to do the same and they succeeded. Hollywood is risky business ESPECIALLY for black people. And I honestly feel like if girlfriends were a show in this day and age and she decided to leave it might have worked out for her but back then there were not many roles or opportunities in film for black women.
@Joie2U it kinda wasn't but it was still watchable
Yea i was thinking that too, didn't see her in anything really after that.
Having my lunch in company of this great video 😊
Joan grandma left her the house 🏘️
I wonder how the crew on the set found the idea of working in a majority black cast and crew. It’s interesting to think that was an assumption some of the stars had only to find out the opposite. Perspective really changes when you have a full picture. I don’t know why they would have some token white girl in the cast. Lynn’s story of being half black and half white probably resonated with a lot of mixed girls whom had the same identity. It brought an interesting story, and the HIV episode they did where Lynn interviewed the childhood friend and even gave a tribute to the character was beautiful.
Watching the show for the first time as a adult was so fun you can really tell that it had black writers ❤
I'm currently watching the 4th season & now that I'm an adult, I really can't stand Todd!
Girlfriends needs a reboot!!!!!! We need answers!!!!!
I remeber the show moved time slots, it was difficult to watch it afterwards from time to time unless, you remembered the timeslot.
I loved the way the characters were written, and the dialogue, felt very sincere & genuine..not a cliche, or stereotypical. I also recall Kramer getting the credit, whenever the show was mentioned in mainstream media..
I loved that show!! I was in HS and they were just so fun and classy at the same time.. I liked especially Joans and Mayas lifestyle. But when Tonys character left it left such a void even now when I saw the whole series for the first time it feels weird like I can see Joan sad bc she lost her bestfriend. Wish they would do a show like that again bc now it seems everythin is about showin ass and twerkin in our community
This is an epic moment in black history fr ❤ growing up and seeing these layers of womanhood was amazing
Who else had the theme song playing in their heads as soon as they saw the thumbnail?
I always saw girlfriends as the black sex and the city
But better!
She took a chance and unfortunately it didn’t work out in her favor. There are many actors who left tv shows to do the same and they succeeded. Hollywood is risky business ESPECIALLY for black people. And I honestly feel like if girlfriends were a show in this day and age and she decided to leave, it might have worked out for her favor but back then there were not many roles and limited opportunities in film for black women.
Wow this show premiered literally the day I was born and the year 😂😂
Time for a reunion
Jill Marie Jones was the star of this show.
I loved this show. I loved how they gave Tony's character a farewell in a friendship breakup with Joan which was heartbreakingly realistic. So good. I wish the network did the right thing and ended the show properly.
Girlfirends literally kept me from canceling netflix 💯
They Were The Original Sex && The City, Just Like Living Single Was The Original Friends! ✨ I Easily Could Relate To All Four Women (Hardworking Like Joan, Free-Spirited Like Lynn, Feisty Like Mya, Bougie Like Toni)
@@bklee2720 You're Right 💁🏾♀️
Sex in the city debut in the 1990s
@@marvinsmith1171 Yup
3:24 mmmm, girlfriends.
3:52 love ❤️😘 this sitcom that I miss.
Season 1 Joan would break the 4th wall by addressing the audience with her inner thoughts. Why did that change?
I read somewhere they wanted all the girls to be main characters. Having only Joan break the fourth wall made her the main character. They wanted all the girls to equally important.
@@kailester4807 Do you think 💬 breaking the 4th wall was a distraction for the audience?
@@dahomieenot necessarily distracting, but it gave more insight into her thoughts and emotions, but we didn’t get that 4th wall break from the other girls. Now if we got that from everybody, that’ll be different.
@@kailester4807 if that 4th wall was from everyone that would have been too much going on
I think if Toni would have stayed on the show it wouldn't have gotten canceled.
you can't be a "former" teen mom unless her child died. as long as she's a mom, she's a teen mom because the age she had him will never change.
If they cancel girlfriends on Netflix I won’t be worried because I have a girlfriend’s playlist on RUclips. Why am I like this??😂
In my opinion Toni out Bougies Harley banks regine from living single and Whitley from a different world
😂 out bougies.....she definitely was over the top with it.
@@NES-ml3by I agree.
Nobody out bougies Hillary Banks!!
Can you do half & half next 👀
i like girlfriends show.
Me and my best friends all time favorite show. Thank you thank you thank you for this video. ❤
Wow.
That was my mother’s favorite show.
I loved the Girlfriends Show… I agree with what someone else said… a movie would be great.
Didn’t even know half this shit but I love Girlfriends real good show!
One of my favorite shows ever! However, these women were a hot mess and somewhat problematic chile lmao
Yep
Tracee ross was probably more of a diva
Not really surprised. She's is the daughter of Diana Ross.
Absolutely love Girlfriends ❤️
Rarely they do this to white shows 🙄😤 would be nice if they did a movie like sex and the city 🤔
This was basically The Black Sex In The City lol! Loved this show
I'm still confused why Fraiser was involved 😂
Thank you for this series it helped me so much.
One of my absolute favorite sitcoms from the 2000s 💯💯💯💯💯💯