The Best Variation Against the King’s Indian?
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The Averbakh System is an extremely powerful weapon for fighting off the King’s Indian Defense!
For an introduction to the KID, watch this video on the basics: • Introduction to the Ki...
The King’s Indian is a powerful defense, and if you are familiar with what black normally tries to achieve, then you know that! Kingside attack, expansion, sacrifices, opening up files! Well, not against the Averbakh System! In this variation, white doesn’t seem to allow any of that.
In fact, in most lines, white is the one who attacks black’s king. The variation starts after white plays the move Bg5. It’s a very direct trap, in fact. It stops the thematic move e5, which black normally plays (after Nf3). So already on move 6, black can go badly wrong and lose! If he knows the variation, and plays one of the four main defenses to Bg5, I still think white has a significant edge.
The main line (where black plays c5) is the perfect example. It leads to an almost inevitable pawn loss or black. And not just any pawn, the d6 pawn. And it’s a clear pawn up. Not as if white is about to lose his extra pawn any time soon. The sidelines, when black wishes to avoid losing a pawn, are not much better. Instead of a material disadvantage, black finds himself under immense pressure in most of them. White is quick to attack with g4, h4, h5, while his king is still on e1, and black has no counter pressure!
For now, after about a week of research and analysis, my conclusion is that white is superior in the Averbakh System, and that regardless of what black plays, he should be better or even material up if he knows what he is doing. This is going to be my weapon against the King’s Indian Defense!
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Thank you so much for this. Finally faced someone using the King's Indian and beat him with 99.1% accuracy!
Cool.sadly i dont face qkings indian a lot and i mostly play e4.also when i play d4 they play queens gambit declined or something else xD
Because he’s the worst trainer for KID! If you want to learn KID don’t learn from him….
Any formation he teaches is more about how not to play than how to play….
It’s like he just post his mistakes; he’s a theory genius but a horrible player… thats easy to see:
Just listen to his language:
Black in trouble; Not a good move for Black. (White is better)
In every video it’s the same thing
‘I don’t like the position’….
This is how not to play the KID for Black….
All these videos are the same’ I don’t like the Black position)
This is teaching people to fail!
In his book "The Art of King's Indian" Eduard Gufeld shows how to play against Awerbach system with the move c5. He has this very nice idea of Knight on d4.
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Just want you to know that, since I started watching your channel, I’ve raised my online ranking by almost 200 points (from 1500 to 1700). I really appreciate, your hard work and tenacity. It has definitely rubbed off on me.
Hey man, I just started a month back and reached a 1000...before that I didn't even know how the pieces worked ... Can u plz tell me a systematic way or a free course or videos or how did u reach there?... Can u tell me step by step what needs to be learned and watched...
@@bendover-bv5yp I’ll tell you what a lot of professionals say, and that is the following:
1. Pick one opening for white (e4 or d4) and two for black (depending on whether white plays e4 or d4). Do not veer away from these openings.
2. Play longer games (15 + 5) but only ply 3-5 per day.
3. Solve puzzles. I would buy a puzzle solving book that has varying degrees of difficulty. I.e. Mate in 1, mate in 2, exc.
4. Be consistent, but not too consistent. Only play 3-5 games. Only solve 3-5 puzzles. When solving puzzles, do not make a move until you’ve solved it. Give yourself an allotment of time, like 15 minutes. If you do not solve it within the timeframe then set it aside and com back to it. This will test not only your problem solving capacity, but also your mental resolve.
5. Analyze ALL your games, after each game, whiteout a computer. Preferably over the board. The key to analyzing games is to first understand basic opening principles and concepts. For example, one concept is thinking about “candidate moves”. Find 2-3 of what you consider to be the best candidate moves in the position. THEN, do the same for your opponent. Some principles are controlling the center, developing your pieces, gaining tempo, gaining space, gaining initiative, activating your pieces, etc.
Hope this helps. Good luck to you.
@@87rtlandry I will definitely try to do that, thanks
How did you improve mister
Thanks man, do you still play ? I'd like to play some training games with if you're okay with that :)
I’m a fairly strong player (2450, give or take a couple of points) who loves the King’s Indian Defense. I do not believe that white is a clear pawn up in the positions after c5. The reason why is mainly due to piece activity. In the main lines, black tends to have more active pieces, despite being down a pawn. Because of that, black has ways to win the material back. Or, if white isn’t careful, he could end up losing material. If you don’t like having to compensate for lost material, then you probably shouldn’t play the King’s Indian because of the Averbakh System. However, if you find that you have no trouble playing dynamically, then you really shouldn’t worry about the Averbakh. And, it is my opinion that both the Sämisch and the Bayonet Attack are more difficult variations to face as black, and even then black has a lot of chances. I can assure you that there is no true flaw in the King’s Indian, even in this system.
Hey bro! I am not as strong as you but an advanced beginner......I would like to know that how did you learn the king's indian defence and tips to improve in chess.....my rating is 1000
Eduard Gufeld reincarnation!
@@kaustubhbisen548 If you are below 2000 Yt and database + engine analysis is the way to study openings I believe.
You should have an App where you save all your Opening moves. I use reportoire Trainer.
Honestly if you watched these Videos and truely took the content to heart you have better knowledge of the KID than the Average 2000 rated player.
As the Average 2000 rated player I can assure you of that.
I'm 2000 USCF. At my level, I find that most
@@bigredracingdog466 Same rating.
I disagree on the 4 Pawns. It's really difficult for White to play and most 2000+ rated Black players handle it decently in my experience.
I absolutely agree on the Sämisch and especially on the Averbak though.
I feel like they are very similar in Potential and ideas but the Averbak seems less popular and less studied by Black from my experience so I had more Black players go really wrong really early.
It also happens in the Sämisch pretty often though.
Hi Stjepan! I have to thank you for this video. I am normally a 1.e4 player, but was looking for an alternative against a particular opponent who I knew play's the King's Indian. He is rated 1867 FIDE, whereas I am a lowly 1566 (but improving!) The game went well and I score an important win. He opted for 6...c6, where after 7.Qd2 e5 8.Nf3 exd4 9.Nxd4 I had a favourable position. What I liked in particular was that the Averbakh leads to structures that are not typical of the KID, and so it feels like a way of taking an KID player onto neutral territory. I look forward to discovering more about this particular line. Keep up the great work and thanks again.
Great channel and great work started using this recently. Before I hated when the opponent played KID but after this I am like please play the KID
5:05 Nd7 8:40 h6 15:20 c5 20:05 Nf3
Thank you😢😢
13:10 Na6
At 18:50
Black can get some quick initiative with Nbd7 and rc8. The c4 pawn is hard go guard since b3 opens up the diagnol
very clear and good analysis. thanks a lot.
You almost conviced me that my beloved kings indian had a theorical hole. Just note that after
1.d4 Nf6
2.c4 g7
3.N:c3 B:g7
4.e4 d6
5.B:e2 o-o
6.B:g5 c5
7.d5 e6
8.dxe6 Bxe6
9.Bxd6 R:e8
10.Bxc5 Q:a5
11.b4 Q:a6
Black is about to recover one of the lost pawns with a good countergame due to the activity of the bishop in the long diagonal open by the b4 move.
Actually the position is pretty equal after Bxc4 and f3. Although I have experimented with b5 after Bxc4, but it's still pretty drawish.
2...g7 and 9 Bxd6 are impossible moves. I cannot follow what you are trying to do. How can bishop take d6 is it is on g5
@@edwardjacobs1071 I think they just missed the moves 7. d5 h6 8. Bf4 e6
@@gabrielrowe5007
Thank you 🙏
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omg im 100% gonna play this now always had a problem with the kings indian thank you!!. this is what i need to finish everything for my preperation for my tournament .
I hope it went well!
Hurray you put the "hanging pawns" intro back. Now this is a proper series 👌
Some sample moves why 11. Bxc5 in the 6. .. c5 line (around 17:45) is just fine for black:
[FEN "rnbq1rk1/ppp1ppbp/3p1np1/6B1/2PPP3/2N5/PP2BPPP/R2QK1NR b KQ - 0 6"]
6... c5 7. d5 h6 8. Bf4 e6 9. dxe6 Bxe6 10. Bxd6 Re8 11. Bxc5 (11. e5 Nfd7 12.
f4) 11... Qa5 12. b4 Qa6 13. Rc1 (13. Qd3 Nxe4-+) (13. f3 Bxc4 14. Bxc4
Qxc4) (13. Be3 Nc6) (13. Qb3 Nxe4 -+) 13... Bxc4
You have quite some bias towards the white position and seem to ignore, that the white king is still in the center and that the black bishop on g7 can be a threat.
Best move for white seems to be 11 e5 which scores best in my corr. database.
yes i always had problems against this move Bg5 thats why i play the horwits defence now
Helped me a lot to improve against kings indian... Literally I just got scared when someone played the kings indian defence but now I think I can give them a hard fight...
Could you please make a video about the semi-averbakh variation? It's my favourite one and your videos are the main reference for my chess!
First of all thanks as always a ton dearest Stjepan for your extensive, clear, and lovely overviews on all openings ^^^
I have no big direct experience against this line yet, but the KID is in my repertoire. I liked the most the position around 6:00 with either Ne6 or Qe7-Qe5. That looks more active for White, for sure, but I see there less ways in which Black could become worse quickly, at least. And the position just looks more funny with such a big party of pieces in the centre from both sides :-) Other setups looked much less appealing, to me at least
04:52 6....Nd7, has been trying to learn and understand these positions. Thank you 🙏❤️
I had a game yesterday with the black pieces in the 6.Nbd7 variation and went on to win the game. Prior to this game I didn't know about this variation except for not playing e5 as long as that Bishop on g5 pins the Knight. Key move was keeping the pawn on e7 and retreating the Knight to e8, where it defended very well and after which I slowly took the initiative on the King side.
I've been playing the Smyslov system which is similar to Averbach against the KID. The only difference is that White's e-pawn is on e3 rather than on e4. I'm hoping you could discuss its strong and weak points too. Many thanks and I enjoyed learning and watching your videos. Keep it up!
That's what I need ...
Actually I studied some basics of d4 and found that too well...
But maximum opponent that beat me as black when I play d4 as white were Kings Indian players..
the smyslov system is painful to deal with
After Qa5 and b4 you can simply play Qa6, regain one of the pawns, and white has a lot of chances to go wrong.
Exacly
you sure? what about Qa4?
@@victorzaak black has the move Nfd7, attacking the c3 knight and white will be forced to defend it and loses the pawn anyway
True, thanks for putting it simple.
If you go Qa5 and then b4 you dont get back to Qa6
Can you do one on the Zinnowitz? Played it with white and won easily and wanted to learn more about it but can't find as much info on it.
I hope we see you as gm one day. Keep going 👍
5:33 after 11. Qf4 (11. f3 Nfxe4 12. fxe4 Bxd4+ 13. Qxd4 Qxg5) then 11... h6 12. Bxh6 Bxh6 13. Qxh6 Nfxe4 14. Nxe4 Nxe4 with stockfish 14 evaluating this position at +0.6. Black has destroyed white's formation and has prospects of activity in the center.
Before even starting the video, I have a question, is it not better to play pawn e3 line instead of e4 line against the kings indian as suggested by gm akobian?.. I'm confused about which one to use...now I'll watch the video..
Hey dude I have a question... instead of castling couldn’t black just play h6 to prevent bishop g5?
I am curious what is the next opening you will cover after KID ? Slav ?
Hello, i think that in your main line e6 for benoni structure is better than h6, af4 and e6.
I am around a 1600 player so i am no expert in any opening what so ever but i like playing against this opening. My general idea is i put my rook on e8 and duck my light square bishop onto h8 where it is hard to exchange then i pry open the e file and i use my f6 knight to harrase any of whites bishops or try and exchange it for whites dark square bishop. My best win with that idea was against an 1800 in a classical.
I think in the mailline back doesn t hav to play h6 you can play e6 and after dxe6 bxe6 bf4 you have Ne8
Concerning your questions, have you read Vasilios Kotronias's five volumes on the King's Indian, published by Quality Chess? I don't know if Ilya Smirin's book is relevant. What I do know which you have not mentioned so far, is that the King's Indian is a risky opening, but one that T.V. Petrosian played.
@Black cat Facts? Again? "
"Do the facts matter?"
I'm definitely not better player then you but I like how Kasparov played often. with C5 and queen side attack. I was beaten many times with that stupid bishop move:) Kasparov Alburt
Im a (incipient) King's Indian player, and today, without knowing the Averbach variation, answer to 6. Bg5 with Nbd7. It goes to complicated game, but at the end I win. :)
To not drop the d pawn in the mainline play 7...e6 instead of 7...h6. Check out Fier v. Vakhidov 2015 Hastings
at 18:35 black : ... Qa5 b4. Qa6 and you have to go f3 (check with the engine if you have questions why.) and then bxc4 . bxc4 Qxc4 . black won their pawn back .
yes, i wanted write a comment but i saw you were first
I used to play a lot against this system and I always lost, which forcing me to play the Grunfeld.
Note: Bg5 is very troublesome in the sicilian dragon family
try austrian attack....
The fuck ? Bro, if you couldn't figure out the king's indian system how the fuck did you figure out the grunfeld
here 12. Qd6 leads Rd8 eventually so B and to retreat to e3 in order to make space for the queen
A few years ago I found a game played by a young Kasparov, maybe in the 1970s. He played 6 ...c5 7 d5 b5 and won a convincing game with Benko gambit style strategy. Unfortunately, I can't now trace that game. I'm a lifelong devotee of KID and I always play this against the Averbakh. Granted, I only play online blitz but I feel confident and probably win at least 50% of the games. I think the Benko gambit strategy is easier for black to play than white in blitz games.
which system is better... Averbakh or Austrian attack???
Hi! after 11. Bxc5 Qa5 12. b4 the computer suggests 12. ... Qa3 13. Rc1 Nc6 and values the position completeley equal despite black being 2 pawns down.
However after 13. Nb5 (threatening Nc7 forking the rooks) Qb2 black has a very active position with ideas Nxe4, Nc6 etc. while white momentarily is up two pawns but severly behind in development.
I'm sure that black can play this line at master levels. At my level I'm not sure if I would find enough good moves for black to win back the material (or more).
Would love to hear your thoughts about the line above.
Cheers from Germany.
Can we use this attack against
Grunfeld?
What about Be3 and g4 with coming g5 and h4
me wondering when the black f6 knight mihgt move to H5
The Averbakh System is an excellent White response to KID. See for example a game commented on in Mikhail Golubev's book "Understanding the King's Indian", p.108 - Bareev-Akopian Moscow GMA 1990 - where Golubev comments "...Black's practical results in this line so far have been rather disastrous". www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1616492
One question: at 3:42 instead of nxe5 why cant nbd7 be played? I mean black loses a pawn for the mistake and hold onto his pieces instead of two points loss for the rook :(
19:55 and for real earlier:
Before Nc6 I prefer Black. I want to play Qa5 b4 Qa6
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At 17:43 if bishop takes on c5 black can play Qa5. If b4 then Qa6. Taking the pawn on c4 and gives a lot of fighting chances for black
what about Qa4?
Good line for black against this sistem is to play 6.Sa6 follow with 7.c6(good waiting move) asking white which plan he will choise...for example after 6.Sa6,7.Qd2 7.c6,lets say 8.f3(saemisch setup)8.Sc7 with Idea Se6! and c5! Playing for d4 square...or 8.Sf3 clasical 8.e5! Playing tipical Kings indian structure..Also against some 8.waiting move off white Sc7 is very flexible(He prepared pawn brakes d5 or b5)because black is cramped and had lead in the development its good to open the position.Averbakh is interesting sistem,tricky one but if black knew what He is doing he is more then fine! thanks
In the variation at 18:39 after 12.b4 black can play 12...Qa6 and then win back the c4 pawn (?)
I honestly don't understand towards the end of the video the enthusiasm about being two pawns up for White when the King is still in the center, and it is about the theme of amplifying the King's Indian bishop. Concretely:
in the main line with c5 where White plays d5 the
11...Qa5 (see 18:35 in video)
2596: Averbakh - Various-ideas Line 8.0, Daugavpils LAT 1978
rn2r1k1/pp3pb1/4bnpp/q1B5/2P1P3/2N5/PP2BPPP/R2QK1NR w KQ - 0 1
Analysis by Stockfish 16 - All cores:
1. = (-0.07): 12.b4 Qa6 13.Rc1 Nbd7 14.Be3 Bxc4 15.Nf3 Rac8 16.0-0 Bxe2 17.Qxe2 Qxe2 18.Nxe2 Nxe4 19.Bxa7 Rxc1 20.Rxc1 Ra8 21.Be3 Ndf6 22.Rc2 Nd5 23.Kf1 Bf8 24.Nf4 Nxe3+ 25.fxe3
2. -/+ (-1.58): 12.Bd4 Rd8 13.b4 Qa3 14.Nd5 Nc6 15.Bxf6 Bxd5 16.cxd5 Bxf6 17.Rb1 Nxb4 18.Qb3 Qa5 19.Kf1 Nxa2 20.Bd3 Nc3 21.Rc1 Re8 22.g3 Nxe4 23.Bxe4 Rxe4 24.Qxb7 Rd8 25.Nf3 Rb4 26.Qc6
3. -+ (-2.75): 12.e5 Qxc5 13.exf6 Bxf6 14.Nd5 Nd7 15.b4 Qc6 16.Rb1 Rad8 17.Qb3 Bc3+ 18.Kf1 Bg7 19.Nf4 Bf5 20.Rd1 Nf6 21.h4 Rxd1+ 22.Qxd1 a5 23.bxa5 Ne4 24.Nd5 Qc5 25.Qe1 Bd4 26.Nh3 Rd8
4. -+ (-3.03): 12.Be3 Nxe4 13.Rc1 Nc6 14.Nf3 Nxc3 15.bxc3 Bxc3+ 16.Kf1 Bb2 17.Rb1 Bg7 18.Qd2 Qa4 19.h4 Rad8 20.Qc1 Qxa2 21.Rxb7 a5 22.h5 g5
The position is equal
(Gavriel, 29.08.2023)
We want moves from White like b4 because it is amplifying the dark square bishop - a major theme of the Kings indian in general is about the dark squares. That two pawns up position is technically just equal it seems. But this video was done some time ago and we do have things like Stockfish 16 now with neural network technology to check up on the analysis. Themes like the dark square control and the g7 bishop being amplified often outweigh material concerns. It is the case here. As you can see 12.b4 is only equal for White - other moves are disastrous for White. Damage is done with the move b4 against Qa5. The Queen going back to a6 is strong.
In a nutshell I basically don't look at is "b4 and the position is winning" - I think "b4 and the g7 bishop has been amplified as the diagonal g7-a1 has been weakened significantly".
Cheers, K
11:08 There is much better move than f3 - bf3! our Bishop is not blocked and g4 and h4 seems stronger. also after bf3 black can play h5 instead of common Kh7, this can help with stopping fast attack
18:39 b4 Da6! 3:41 Sd5 Sbd7!
Can anyone tell me why Averbakh would be better than Smyslov?
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Be2 O-O 6. Bg5 h6 7. Be3 c5 8. d5 e6
9. Qd2 exd5 10. exd5 Kh7 11. Nf3 Re8 12. O-O b5 13. Nxb5 *
scores very well for black and black gets a lot of activity.
10. cxd5
But in your line white has plus dot 8 of vantage
@@felipemorais2859 exd5, cxd5 makes little sense and white is clearly not playing for an advantage. Firstly engines shouldn't be used for the KID because they overestimate white's chances. Secondly your engine is very weak so it's opinion means very little
@@stopwritingthatreplyjohnat6638 u are following a misconception
@@felipemorais2859 ... no
It´s working. The trap on the bishop and pawn scores frequently...
KID is supposed to be a very tactical and sharp opening
The mainline (6...c5) seems to be fine after 7. d5, e6 8. dxe5, Bxe5 9. Nf3, h6 10. Bf4, Qb6 11. Rb1, Nc6 12. 0-0, Rfe8 13. h3, Nd4 14. Re1, g5 15. Bh2, Nxf3+ 16. Bxf3, Bxc4 17. Qxd6, Qxd6 18 Bxd6, Nd7 19. Red1, Be6 20. Nd5, Bxd5 21. exd5, Be5 22. Bxe5, Nxe5 whites passed pawn on d5 will be an issue but the material in this line is even and stockfish thinks the position is completely even at 0. It seems that an earlier 7...e6 rather than the line 7....h6 8. Bf4, e6 shown in the video allows black to escape losing material early on and ultimately equalize.
Why Nd7 doesn't work at 3:36
Great video. Why 5. Be2 instead of straight into 5. Bg5?
5. Be2 is nessecary here to control g4 square first , unless black can replay after straight 5.Bg5 h6 7.Be3 Ng4! and delete AverbaKh long-term plan !
5. Bg5 is called the Accelerated Averbakh, some variations can transpose but it has it's own theory. Also 5.Be2 and 6. Be3 is called the semi-Averbakh. Similar to the h6 and Be3 line in this Averbakh variation, in a way black doesn't have h6 as a weekness. I recommend you also check out these variations just to have a more complete understanding.
youtube placed subtitle in Indonesian language in this video.
and this subtitle is just wrong and annoying.
btw: the video itself is good and crystal clear.
played this, utterly destroyed the first king's indian i faced. Thank you!
You didn't analyze the line with e6 right after d5. This leads either to a Benoni pawn structure or an open e file for both. That was my trump card against the star player of my chess club. (He's a Luxembourg NM with about 2000 FIDE ELO. I think he is about to become a CM soon.) Without knowing the Averbakh I simply went c5, then e6, then exd - he played cxd instead of exd, I think exd is a bit better, because it avoids the Benoni pawn structure - and then Nbd7, Bg4 and Qc7. Eventually my pawn majority on the queenside almost prevailed.
I lost only because at some point I played as if he didn't exist - don't do that against a 2000 player lol - and didn't understand a succession of moves that would have led to a checkmate. But after the game he put the position back, showed me how to repel the mating threat and said "Now in this position it is black who is better. Your idea to play in a Benoni fashion was fantastic."
I think smyslov-petrosian system is the most aggressive variation against kings Indians
You dont have h6 after c5,that move is weak for black,instead play a6 and prepare attack on a queen side just like in Samish,black is always faster believe me
At 3:40 why not Nd7
At 3:40-3:50 couldn't you just play Nbd7. It'd lead to the original where you lose a pawn but don't have to give up the exchange, or am I missing something?
Hi, thanks for your videos. One suggestion……….rather than go into all the side-lines, it would be better to just focus more on the mainline that you are recommending.
After Black plays 8. ... Rxd8 and White plays Nd5 can't Black play Nd7 and avoid losing the exchange?
Yes, but Black still loses the c7-pawn, and I saw the point of the host taking us down that line was that White will either win a pawn, or the Exchange. You point out one way to win a pawn.
What about 6.... Nc6
16:40 mainline
6. ... e5 (?!) 2:30
6. ... Nbd7 4:50
6. ... h6 8:39
6. ... Na6 13:03
6. ... c5 15:08
veri nice video! is it perfect !
Wouldn't 9...Nbd7 save the exchange?
9:16 (ignore this comment just need this in the future) 13:05
21:40 maybe because of Bf5 threatening e2 and c3 (defending e2) so e2 has to move then blacks get back their pawn in c4
3:44 cant black still play Nbd7?
Siraf 123
Yup I was too thinking on that..
But I guess Nf3 will be good answer to it.
15:53 - what if black doesn't play h6?
You have other lines such as e6, a6, b5, but the idea of undermining the center of white is good, and that pin on the knight is annoying if you don´t remove the bishop first.
@@filipedelduque9407
I can play Qc7 later and break the pin. I don't think anyone can survive with pawns on g6 and h6. If I face this, I usually play c5 right away. Pd5, e6, Nf3, exd. If cxd, we have a Benoni. If exd then either Re8 or even better Bg4 and exchange with the f3 knight. I found this the better way, you just shouldn't mess up any move order. The only player, who's beaten me in this is my CM teammate, a person I'm way too far from the class of. He would confirm this way to play is better, he's just way too good when he plays a d4 opening. If you ever face him, never go Nimzo or Bogo. He's a magician in those. King's Indian and Benoni are better chances, but he plays the Averbakh. So that's how I know the system, I just play with him.
I'd like to push back just a little bit on the "many players are going to play e5". I was shown that trap at the age of 9 or so by my coach. Not a single person has played e5 against me my entire life of playing Bg5 against the KID (I have switched to different systems now, exploring bits and pieces of different ones).
I like averbakh with black and I must correct you 6.h6 is the main and best move and after Be3 c5 this is the best way to have equal game I play 6.h6 Bh4? Is bad because of c5 and Nh4... so Be3 c5 d5 (d×c5 is Qa5 and black is fine) e6 main line is d×e6 but after B×e6 my plan is Nc6 Nd7-e5...simply good position and if after e6 Nf3 than e×d5 c×d5 (if e×d5 than my plan is Ng4 Nd7 and e5 square is mine) and now b5! the best is e5! Ng4 N×b5 N×e3 f×e3 and black is very active and the position is in dynamic equal and if instad of Nf3 white plays h3 like in Ben Oni then e×d5 c×d5 (if e×d5 then my plan is Na6-c7 now b5 is dangerous so a4 and like Magnus :) Na6-b4 with better position) and now I can put pressure on e4 by Re8 Qc2 Qe7 Bd3 c4! And black is better and in your variation 6.h6 Be3 c5 d5 e6 Qd2!? Now e×d5 if c×d5 then Re8 f3 and Nh7!? And e.g. 0-0-0 h5 h4 a6 Bh6 b5 g4 black must be good defender h×g4 h5 B×h6!! Q×h6 and g5 is shopping an attack and if e×d5 which is your choice then Kh7 h3 (stopping Ng4) and if you play with 0-0 I have very good e4-square after Bf5 Ne4 and if you are going to attack with 0-0-0 then Ng4 B×g4 B×g4 f3 Bd7 and b5 is comming and if h4 which is the most attacking move then Ng4 Bf4 Re8 f3 Ne5 0-0-0 there are only moves Nbd7 g4 b5! N×b5 Nb6! B×e5 R×e5! Bd3! Na4 h5 a6 h×g6+ f×g6 Nc3 N×c3 b×c3 and black stopped whites attack amd has dangerous action after Qa5 so I think averbakh is good for white but also for black but yes black must play only moves to have completely equal game. Thanks for this video!
This is hard to.follow, I'd like to see a video reply from hangingpawns showing this and confirming its usefulness. I typically try and play a lot of games in whatever HP is reviewing and the KID is very fun and tactical
@@MjrLeegInfidel yes my variations are very hard and know every variations in every systems is very hard and HP show us the most interesting of them but if someone would like to play KID he must learn from many games and books for many months or years
Punctuation, please.
I'm sorry, I wrote is quickly.
The other commenter was saying that your writing is hard to follow. Use standard notation with move numbers and brackets for variations or it's too hard to understand what you're talking about.
As for the variation itself, pretty much your whole line rests on the assumption White takes with 9.dxe6, but that's not even close to being the most common move. 9.Qd2 is 3 times more common, and all of those games tend to favour white.
There's a reason that 6...h6 is not the main line, and it's been analysed in depth by GM's and engines far more thoroughly than your very confusing post.
3:22 Nd7 isn’t this the best move?
Yeah don’t know why he didn’t think of it
you cant play pH6 ,buz its simply can be taken. min 14
Why do you play h6? Play e6 and avoid the treat Bxd6
E6 loses to e5 if played immediately and weakens the dark squares too much
@@siraf1234 you can't play e5 immediately... black just takes dxe5 and engine scores -1 for black
when black plays h6 its a loosing move in the averbakh system(analysed with stockfish 12 NNUE latest)
How? Whats the follow up of White? :-)
After Bg5 black should play e6 not h6 ... i think black is equalizing
6. ... c6 and plan accordingly
The best system is main line only 1 variaiton giving decisive advantage at engine level but for the human it's good
After b4 Qa6
Yasser Seirawan used to play the Averbakh System and has since abandoned it due to a line played by Gelfand. Check out this link: ruclips.net/video/pxFnCQocF4E/видео.html
Regarding why Nf3 is the main line for white... my engine doesn't even score that move very well. Given that the theory you've read is clearly up in the air, why not question why h6 is the main line for black? e6 looks more promising - why kick the bishop to point at blacks main pawn weakness? Engines score the 2 moves about the same.
In bullet push pawn e5 before they've castled haha. They always fall for it cuz they've got castling premoved.
the best way for me is the samisch system
Yeah, I find it very dangerous too. But black's plans against it are easier imo.
I am sure after f3 c5!? Black is ok d5 is bad Ben Oni for white Nge2 is the best but still ok aftwr long variation and after d×c5 black is active I played sämisch but no I can't stand move c5 so now I play petrosian (I am worry about main line because of blacks attack which is not to dangerous in petrosian but I love variations with h3-g4 but I can't find material so I am looking for makogonov variation
I'm not so sure. I play this with white from 1year1/2 and i've win all of my official games. I play against the system with c5 : 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.f3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nc3 0-0 6.Bg5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Qd2 exd 9.cxd a6 10. A4 (Nge2 !?) Re8!(Nd7 is bad cause of Nh3!) 11.Nge2 Nd7 11.Ng3 Qa5 ( the knight is not so well placed but i will make Be2- castle - sometimes Ra3- nh1-f2 in case of h5-4 and in a long term i will prepare f4-e5 or f5 and i will just win so i really enjoy my space advantage here). I'm ok that it's not the best system for white against the benoni but i find that white can slowly prepare his play, is very solid against black premature break like f5 or b5 and black just dont have equal chances.
@@safaricraft139 yes you play correctly but Qa5? Why? I think h5 should be very interesting yes you have a lot of space but also very weak f4 and e5 squares for mi knights after Ng3 h5 e.g. Be2 h4 Nf1 I can play Ne5 Nh5-f4 and plan Rb8 and b5 also f5 comes to mind after whites 0-0 it will be very interesting game I think in dynamic equal
Do you mind starting the position from the beginning?
Black is fine in the 6.Na6 Variation, also according to chessgames.com database White wins 37.7% and black wins 32%. I prefer the Smyslov-system with Nf3, Bg5 and the pawn on e3, i won against a guy rated almost 2300 easily and i am between 1500 and 1600. On the database the smyslov system scores over 50% in all variations except against c5 on move 5 or 6. It seems that the king´s Indian will never be refuted, only some variations - there´s at least one way to fight any White attempt.
The mighty KID-Comunity tries it's best to keep this line down I guess. 🤷♀️
I have a book by Victor Bologan on the KID. I will have a look
The King s Indian, A complete black repertoire? One interesting thing I noticed in his judgement of the variation is : "In the Averbakh Variation,
White takes cares mostly of preventing his opponent's counterplay and not so much of his own creative endevours" (p121). I really didn't notice that thus far. But I will keep analyzing the variation. He also gives Na6 and h6 as replies to Bg5 and discards c5 and Nbd7 (I guess).
So a bit outdated then😢
now in the line where you play 6. c5 for black and then losing 2 pawns after Bxd6 and the Bxc5 ...u can play after
11. Bxc5 Qc8 12. Be3 Bxc4 13. Rc1 Qe6 14. Bxc4 Qxc4 *.... maybe just leading to loss of 1 pawn,. All in all that is not King's Indian ... that is Benoni advanced and we know that black usually struggles to prove anything in benoni due to his lack of space and weak pawns on d6 and c5
The line with h6 is absolutely playable.
the problem on your opinion about this is, that you have a problem with the understanding of fianchetto-positions or how to play with a fianchetto.
after h6 and kh7 you havent lost a tempo, because first your king is now absolutely safe there and second you have counterplay, because, you now can play the move f5 without having your king in the diagonal and open the f-file with a better king.
Play pawns until your queen is free