Artificial Intelligence Unleashes The Beatles + Review of Beatles Red and Blue
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🚀 Dive into the future of The Beatles as we explore their latest release and the groundbreaking role of Artificial Intelligence in shaping the music industry! In this video, we'll discuss how AI is revolutionizing the way we create and experience music, opening up new possibilities for The Beatles and beyond. 🎧 
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What they have done here and with all the remixes is use them as replacements for the original versions. You have no choice with new vinyl or CD. The 2014 AAA Red and Blue are deleted so anyone needs to get them ASAP. Note they don't even mention they are remixes on the sleeve. Only the hype sticker and 2023 date identifies these from previous versions.
It’s not AI. It is a Machine-Assisted Learning (MAL) audio restoration system developed by Peter Jackson that was being used. It removes the piano and extracts John’s voice from the demo cassette tape. AI is creating voices/sounds from scratch. That is the very important distinction on this “Now & Then” single track.
you are right i used it as a vehicle to start the discussion about the potential
The AI on this track is very minimal. It is only the seperation of John's vocal from the piano track. This is not an AI track in the true sense. I don't understand why people are making so much fuss about it
Yeah, I agree it's more of a clean-up job.
I suspect this was part of the marketing - tying it to AI gets people talking and draws more attention. The particular technology used here is interesting and impressive, but there are many applications in all disciplines (photography, film editing, etc.) that use AI behind the scenes in a similar way.
Well, machine learning is technically a form of AI
True, they didn’t use generative AI but the use of AI on an official major release is a milestone.
The clean up software called “MAL” (Machine Assisted Learning) developed by Peter Jackson.
Michael, the Artificial Intelligence technology used for Now and Then is part of a software that separates the different musical instruments on a recorded song. It does not create new music. Software for isolating instruments has been available for many years but Peter Jackson and his team created a new one that brings better results than any other available until last year.
right again, i used it as a vehicle for the things that already started and will continue for a long time
The ability to separate the vocals from a track that includes a piano and then enhance the vocal structure is quite amazing.
I would love to hear MAL applied to their Star Club recordings. It would be great to hear the raw prefame Beatles.
It's notable that Peter Jackson is hot on this idea specifically. I think he realizes the best impact of MAL is on things that are broken, not things that are good. As such, The Beatles live catalog is a GREAT opportunity.
How about "Michael sings the BEATLES" could be the next Artificial Intelligence album! I'd buy it! Great Video as usual!!!
The Now & Then video really helps expand the experience of the song & Peter Jackson deserves much credit for his work. Love the George Harrison footage. Red & Blue redux are pretty good & a nice introduction for a new generation of Beatles fans.
Totally agree with you.
awful
That was the best talk I’ve seen in a while, thank you.
Michael, I really liked the way you handled this. You avoided all the comparisons that would have had predictable outcomes. MAL is just a toy at this moment, and Apple is sharing toys at Christmas time. It's nothing more than that.
In other words, you gave a reasonable assessment w/out making a soapbox speech about MAL or Giles Martin. Well done.
Great and honnest review. Many thanks for the information.
Great video. You blew my mind with the Now and Then observations. I think you are correct and it’s so cool that the band who made the studio and technology part of their music 60 years ago are now connected as you said to the next wave of music progress. A lot to think about. Thanks.
I have no problem enhancing existing material "The Beatles-Revolver" is impressive IMO an enjoyed the results - using AI to create new material is where I find it difficult to accept. Unless an individual can present a valid argument of the advantages. Thank you, Michael this such an interesting topic !
We need an Analogue Production 45 rpm , that would be amazing but very unlikely 😁 keep up the great work 👍😁
Great video Michael, I initially didn't consider extracting and separating John's voice from other sounds like the piano to be AI. Jackson's team developed machine learing technology named MAL which cleaned up old vocals rather than generate new ones. Maybe my definition of AI needs to be expanded. Enjoyed watching.
I don’t know if I want AI generating new content however I’m hoping they can use this technology to clean up early live recordings like the Star Club tape.
The issue for me is George Martin remixed Help! and Rubber Soul for cd in 1986. The Beatles often complained about the original stereo mixes which became the standardized versions in the 1970s and on. Therefore, the new mixes are vital. They aren’t always perfect, but they usually restore the hard panning, bad edits, missing/hard to hear sound effects.
Nice job....thanks
MAL applied to their Star Club recordings
I have never liked hit samplers so I never bought these blue and red albums. "Now and Then" is great, really like it.
I'm lucky enough to have the originals. They belong to my sister but she doesn't know I've claimed them now!!
I don’t agree that they’re doing remixes for the sake of it. Maybe that could be argued for the later Beatles releases but the earlier stuff truly benefits from the demixing technology. The songs sound better than ever and can now hold their own against recordings from the 70s and onward.
Interesting topic! Now And Then is strangely growing on me with additional and repeated listenings. Now I'm wondering if that was the case back in the sixties when we heard a new and different Beatles song. I was alive at the time, but I don't remember not liking something and having to warm up to it. Just can't remember that. Anyway, yeah, I remember being awestruck when I saw Natalie Cole sing Unforgettable as a duet with her deceased father. Technology enables much more than that, today. On the Red & Blue, my theory is that the remixes don't sound fresh enough because Giles is under the impression that it would be in bad taste to do new mixing that really stands out. I think he unfortunately wants to preserve the original mixes as much as possible, but just tweak them slightly. This philosophy has produced lackluster remixes.
Even though I'm a Beatles fan, I never bought the red/blue albums for the reason being I have all their records. Not a fan of" best of" records. Not sure if I will buy this set. $150 ? WOW!
Nah! They all got enough money!
Got all the songs on other albums(CD's) any road up!
Your thoughts are intriguing. I would echo what some others are saying. This is machine learning removing extraneous sounds from a real recording, followed by a human producer doing a lot of creative work. Giles didn't enter prompts to produce the final result and let an algorithm do the work. Would true AI recordings be popular? Commercially, there have been albums like The Beatles' songs in the style of Bach. I'm sure a few fans said, "Let's Bach out!"
Thanks, Michael, for your nice video and opinions! Did you hear something about differences in sound quality between vinyl and CD versions? It seems the CD tracks have been limited or "brickwalled", what would be a shame, considering those fans that collect this sort of media... (like me, here in south tip of Brazil). Best wishes for 2024!
Thanks really interesting thoughts on AI. Fan mixes maybe the next big thing.
I'd like to hear that synthesis of Joy Division's "Unknown Pleasures" and the Beatles "White album!"
I've bought the red and blue several times. Not happening again. I'm happy with the Target 12inch of NOW And Then
A complex and intriguing discussion on AI for certain. I think what you are saying is that AI possibilities are unlimited and beyond we could even dream in the present moment. The future will have confrontation as dark vs. light or solid vs. gas or even liquid. This "beginning" will not end as it started for certain. All music, including the Beatles have new possibilities for mankind to explore and to stream perhaps on new devices not even invented or thought of. But for now, the songs are better and are wonderful to listen to. Thanks for discussion.
I look at the Beatles “remixes” this way. I’m 57 years old. I’m invested in the originals. I like the originals. I’ll stream the remixes, because I’m curious. I don’t need to buy them, but I don’t hate on those who do.
I think the only way to listen to beatles music,,is the way it was recorded in the day,,,that's how they wanted it then,,and as a child in the 70s grew up on....Why change it....
I like your videos and rest ashore, because of your review I went out and bought both volumes of this on CD, I found it at Walmart. I have a question, my copies are from Germany. Is this rare for albums such as this to reach a retail store. I live in Kilgore Texas. Thank you for your advice my friend
I’d like to hear Eazy-E with Tupac and Biggie😎🤘
Have you listened older Beatles releases sound quality in mind? I think these releases sound spectacular!! The new mixes bring so much life these songs! These are literally the best sounding versions of these song yet :)
I’m glad that i’m to laid back to be a completionist.
too ....
@@stuartwray6175 u two aren't a completionist
Awesome
I was listening to the recently released Sinatra “Platinum” which is collection of his best HiFi mono era recordings.
My question is would you buy a Peter Jackson software stereo remix of “In the Wee Small Hours” or any of the other great HiFi mono masters of the pre stereo era?
I downloaded the hi-res 24-92 files of these just because I wanted to hear the 2023 demix/remix of the early tracks in proper stereo purely out of interest as I’m a beatles nut.
It’s nice to hear the separation of the instruments and vocals done this way as there are so many things in the mix I’ve never heard before but mono is still king for these songs imo.
If the levels were correct and they weren’t mixed in such a modern way I could maybe consider changing my mind. The bass is far too heavy on these remixes and so boomy when listening on half decent gear. It’s as if they’re doing it on purpose as the majority of people listen through crappy Bluetooth speakers (mostly in mono), mediocre headphones or car stereos and this helps deliver better sound for such listening circumstances.
I thought the same on some of the tracks from the 2022 revolver release (which I have on vinyl)
I have no issues with AI only being used to clean up John Lennon’s vocals and using different musical parts from the 1990s and 2022. Artists today record their parts in different parts of the world and stitch them together all the time.
Evening’ Michael
A strange release for me .
Would have much preferred a Rubber Soul box with a AAA MONO version included much like last year’s Revolver.
But hey Red /Blue celebrating 50 years.
Now & Then a sweet track.
Regarding AI & Peter Jackson de- mixing technology,this will open up a whole new can of worms.
I just hope they use it responsibly.
It could be a game changer in the right hands.
i agree but Now and Then fits more into this release ... maybe
@@Michael45RPM There was talk of redoing,remixing or demixing the Anthology albums from the 90s which would have provided the perfect home along side the previous reimagined tracks of Free as a bird & Real Love.
But they went for the Red/Blue instead next best place for Now & Then
To be honest, I grabbed the 45 rpm set of colored vinyl 25 years ago of hits. Not everything on the Red and Blue. The 45s sound amazing in comparison. I understand the new thing with technology but the new stuff just doesn't sound the same. The old 45s blow the 2023 mixes out of the water, hands down.
Debating whether or not to return the new Red and Blue 2023 remix back to Amazon, the originals are better.
Now & Then is super cool as a 12” release, but O seem no need for a reissue of a comp. Beatles LPs should be listened to as complete albums as originally released. Give us a Rubber Soul remix!
Can you hold up the records a few more times? I didn't see them the first ten times.
A PREDICTION for November 2024....Red and Blue albums will be re-issued in AI QUADRAPHONIC!!
God hear you, because what a blunder did Giles Martin make, with the consent of Paul & Ringo with the 2023 Red and Blue Remixes (especially with She Loves You & Love Me Do........ and Perhaps it is too much to ask that they give us back the money we paid for those collections that they ruined......
Ja Ja when in doubt especially when there is soo much disscussion about any reissue lp good or bad is to just get the CD .and besides that Dec holiday is comming and Family comes first.
hab beide original ..Erstausgabe :)
I've absolutely no idea of the approach of Apple to releases. There's little consistency in approach and quality varies. They got it right with the White Album boxset but failed spectacularly with the Let It Be boxset. I was also a tad disappointed with the Revolver boxset. We know there are many unreleased tracks available for years in bootleg. I remain baffled as to why the Mono boxset hasn't been reissued but that's my bad as I didn't get it at the time. The Steely Dan reissues have set the bar in quality and sound and presentation. Unfortunately it remains Apple continue to give us crumbs. I also remain ambivalent about the remixes mainly because the quality varies too much. These are all subjective views of course, but I'm in my mid 50s ffs and I doubt I truly get what ai want.
and as always, people get the decent seam split. it's ridiculous !
Will solo Beatles songs be joined by the other Beatles via AI. . Ask AI ..... what would it sound like if Band on the run, imagine, Cloud 9, and Ringo albums included all four Beatles. What I think would be impossible for AI would be to ask what mind games or wildlife would sound like if John or Paul had equal input into the albums as I'm sure most of the songs wouldn't have been released or would be totally different.... the genius human element of having all 4 on the albums
As fascinating as the possibilities of AI are, it will never cause the excitement of
a release like the Now and Then Song which was put together in a natural way with a little AI involvement. It is considered an authentic Beatles song cause all 4 members were involved, even if not simultaneously. The first Beatles song after decades, that's what causes excitement. An AI-created song may cause interest but not that kind of enthusiasm.
I like these two albums. But as a graphic designer I don't understand how they messed up the labels on the vinyl. That's a lay out made by a starter. There is more bad lay out all over. I don't get it.
I think AI as a tool is great, but I don’t personally get excited about AI created music. I think what they did here was a great use of AI, but when it comes to AI generated music, it’s pretty terrible.. and I’m not sure if the music it pumps out will have a positive effect on creativity in the studio. Again, the Beatles song is a great use, I just don’t consider it to be created by AI in the sense that AI thought up the lyrics, the melody, or played any of the instruments, or even generate their sounds. After all that you have the mixing choices, which I think would be a real challenge for AI if you think about it..
"Really exciting times" really???
Does anybody know if the 1994 reissue was digital? I remember a lot of super bit mapping CDs, and the excitement around it, so I'm thinking they probably were. They sound OK, but not that great, a little thin and poor body to the instrumentation.
We can already think about if these songs, such as gene-modest foods, should be labeled. 😮
I really hope what you are predicting doesn't happen.If it does,absolutely no need for your channel as we can just have an ai version of you!
it has already started Stanley
How about No.
AI should do as your dog. Go to sleep and let the master talk.
I’m not optimistic about MAL Machine Assisted Learning and/or AI artificial intelligence with respect to works of art. Creativity in popular music is very limited right now because producers want to make familiar and unchallenging music that appeals to the greatest number of people.
Contemporary music sounds like nursery rhymes for children.
Performers are just that - chosen by the music industry for how they look and move; definitely not for their creative output.
For example look at what ABBA is doing now.
We are living through a period of great censorship and unwillingness to make intelligent music. For example, Taylor Swift (aged 33 years) releases music that deals with the issues of 15 year old adolescents.
There is something infantile, misogynistic and often violent about the current music output of nearly all top 40 artists and their producers (handlers).
MAL and/or AI will make it even easier to target and pander to specific demographic audiences. It will not be for the better in my opinion.
What the music industry needs is to foster truly creative artists and stop censoring creative, genuine and unique ideas.
The Beatles were not censored in their creativity and that is one of the reasons they were so creative and prolific.
This post is my opinion.
We didn't get anything in 2020.
For me the greatest remixes I’ve ever heard were from the Sgt. Pepper, White, Abbey, and Let It Be deluxe box sets Giles took part in. Sure there were some songs that were comparable to the original, but overall it was a revelation. That being said where Giles seems to be having the most challenges is with the d mixing process. The Red/Blue shows this as it can be frustratingly inconsistent. She Loves You the mix is outstanding, but the sound quality is awful. Where is the treble? Sadly, it sounds like a pillow is over your speakers. Don’t get me wrong, most of the songs sound better in their 2023 mixes. Certain songs like Michelle, Girl, If I Needed Someone, From Me To You absolutely shine here. Compare the mixes in general on ear buds to the original mixes which are mainly unlistenable on this format. But, I feel other songs like Ticket To Ride and Help are improved but needed to go further. Yes the songs are more defined and balanced nicely, but they sound less open than their 2015 remix on the 1 album. A song like All My Loving I may actually prefer the 2009 remaster. Unfortunately Giles decided to d mix Walrus and Old Brown Shoe instead of remixing off the multi track master tapes aka Sgt. Pepper style. Why they made this choice baffles me as later songs are more complicated to d mix and aren’t necessary like the pre 1966 tracks. Overall I’m a huge fan of new mixes because the Beatles recorded and mixed mainly for mono. Giles often fixes the hard panning, bad edits, and missing/hard to hear sound effects. George Martin remixed Help! and Rubber Soul in 1986 for cd. The Beatles often complained about the original stereo recordings which unfortunately became the standardized versions in the 1970s and on. This is why these projects are essential for the entire catalogue. My only hope is Giles goes further. Don’t change a song like Walrus whether the vocals or ending. Better quality control like the fader guitar on the 30 sec mark on Old Brown Shoe. Also, I Saw Her Standing There needed a louder guitar solo due to Ringo’s drums being loud and in your face. Nevertheless the song still is a major improvement. Thankfully we still get some of the 2015 1 remixes, 2017,2018,2019,2021, and 2022 mixes instead of Giles trying to d mix it all. The new mastering on this record is great for all those older mixes and my streaming platform now has the 2015 remixes in Ultra HD on Amazon. All in all A- but could have been better. Along with missing tracks like Rain, Helter Skelter, I’ll Follow The Sun, If I Fell, Birthday, Getting Better, When I’m Sixty Four, and She’s Leaving Home. Maybe also Baby’s In Black and Do You Want To Know A Secret. I would have omitted two of the cover songs and You Can’t Do That. I also would have removed I Me Mine and Now And Then. All excellent songs, but don’t belong on here. We can’t have it all folks 🤷🏻♂️
Have you lost your mind?
what? dont talk like this here or run!
Using AI to extract, fine. But i absolutely hate things being"made" with it. If it was not already done by someone i dont want it!
1st
Hi Michael,
Brilliant, profound, not easy to grasp sarcasm right from the introduction.
I see the whole thing the same way.
Here is my opinion:
Wow, now the leftover-ramp of the already uninspired 1994/95 "Anthology" project, on the one hand because of Lennon's voice, which was virtually switched in from the afterlife and correspondingly lifeless, and on the other hand due to the unnecessary, uninspired songs "Free As A Bird" and "Real Love".
But "Now And Then", a conceivably difficult birth, not to say stillbirth, in which all of the fabulous four actually participated, albeit scattered far and wide in space and time, may it now please, please be the last shot.
The banal lyrics, written in the autumn or rather second spring of Lennon's horrible Yoko-Ono infatuation, the whiny vocals and the uninspired piano, which sounds like a tired copy of "Imagine", give little cause for joy.
Was this really necessary, Beatles?
Why would you want fake stuff? I have no interest.
Just another money grab from a label. Nothing more nothing less.
I hope that everything you said here is wrong 😂
😂 of course you do :-) but it has already started
2nd
Now And Then is a Beatles song because they say it is. Who are we? All this non sense about having to have all 4 Beatles on the track is ridiculous. Yesterday and Blackbird is only Paul McCartney. Julia is only John Lennon. The Ballad of John And Yoko is only Lennon/McCartney. Now And Then has all four em. People need to calm down.
AI crap is wortheless clutter. The more it can be done the more insignificant.
I am not a fan of the fake AI generated songs like the NAS / B.I.G. you mentioned. In fact I find them kind of gross.
I like you Michael but you are a little bit of an NPC when it comes to the Beatles and AI
So disappointed in you Michael 45. AI on Beatles tracks? Goes against your whole stance on the truest form laid out on wax. What you’re describing is some sort of video game style fantasy fun. What if… But, messing with these amazing artist of the past? These sacred recordings… Peter Jackson, Giles Martin desecrating the Beatles?!! LOL. I know I’m exaggerating, but yeah I’m not.
You completely miss the point. AI is an evil thing. No one wants to listen to Beatles songs sang by Beach Boys or a mixture of Joy Division and let's say Whitesnake. This is ridiculous and should be banned. You said nothing about the way AI was used for creating Now and Then.
Just think .. we will be able to get rid of Yoko's horrid screeching voice !!
The first time I’ve ever giving you a big Thumbs Down. 👎
'given'
That's hyper sensitive of you.
Hyper sensitive? Maybe. Releasing more of these robotic slabs of vinyl of true milestone artist & recordings isn’t something I take lightly. Then why subscribe to UHQR/ERC, etc., and be appalled by Mofi?
What you are describing is NOT GREAT. I guess you will soon not need all your analogue gear and vinyls.... who will print all those Ai versions???... because you are sooo exciteed about Ai creativity. And your channel also would not have to existe any more.... We will just ask Ai: " Hay what is a difference between old Beatles print and Ai version of BB King with Beatles and please let me heare both versions."
School systems all over Europe showed very poor and negative results on intelectual development of implementing too much digitalisation in a learning proceses.... So there will be againn more textbooks and classical teaching methods...
everything has its disadvantages, just wanted to start the discussion with this Video
Not for me thanks. Couldn't think of anything worse 👎