If you think about it, Logan has the power to erase them all... Logic can overcome and beat: Lies, Creativity, Anxiety and Emotions. Sure, maybe morality could fight back but Logan has a lot of power.
Absolutely, and we've seen how much power he holds with the "dark sides". Janus had to keep him out of the courtroom scenario, and Remus tried to kill him with no success (and we know that he CAN have an impact, he knocked Roman out for a whole episode).
Anna Midnight I was actually talking to my friend about this and saying that all the sides definitely have an alternate and I was thinking orange was Logan’s!Also thinking all the sides are gonna have a two part problem episode but that’s just a theory
I see This too Cuz everyone has a distinct coloration "dark" or "light" side patton is light blue roman is red virgil is purple Jamus is Yellow Remus is Green and logan is dark blue? it kinda makes sense and it would differ things virgil being accepted and "turned" into a "light" side and jamus being accepted but deciding to work from the "dark" side to help thomas better and logan thinking the "light" side doesn't want them(just gonna say this now cuz the light side feels way more like emotional side and the dark side seems more like the factual side to me pat roman and virgil are all very emotion based personalities and deceit and logan are litterally information based personalities remus would be like... this fact exists... even if you don't like it it doesn't make a fact go away a goldfish in a condom can exist
oh so that's why he was so cheery at the beginning, at the time everyone was fine but as things got worse Logan started having issues with the orange side,not telling anyone,trying to protect them, but ultimately failing and breaking down at the end.I think them not including him in the court room really pushed him over the line.Even if it was a small thing. my poor baby
What really frustrates me is that Logan's efforts are almost completely never aknowledged. At the beginning he was a little more open I think, and the others actually listened to him for the most part, but as they stopped paying any attention to him he tried very hard not to be seen as a joke and lost his cheerfulness. They straight up didn't want him in the courtroom, he realized he was probably being too direct with his interventions so in the latest episode he made that lowdown thing in an attempt to "be less invasive" and what was the response? An irritated "you very much did not succeed".
@@midnight_art yeah, I think this animatic really shows Logans struggles and how hard he trys. In the newest episode in logans lowdown thing we wasn't even bothering them,like talking that is, but as soon as the skip button appears( Aka Janice snatching him up) Patton automatically clicks it. -hewasntevendoinganything-
I always wanted an orange side to complete the rainbow! Thought it’d be Patton though. Dark green, light blue, then dark purple doesn’t really work. (I know everyone else is being serious here but I had to say it when they pointed it out)
Same! And thank you so much!! Also, the fact that he's mostly wearing balck, like the dark sides? Surely a coincidence but it definitely does feed this headcanon.
@@jibsjensen2587 Mostly, he was the only one who recognized and accepted the points of view of the dark sides. Like him complimenting Virgil after the debate, agreeing with Janus's points in the last video, accepting intrusive thoughts as normal. He said himself that "reality is not so black and white"... I just like this headcanon so much
We need an episode where they realise what they're doing to logan and they find logan with an orange tie in his hands in his room and he says "I'm sorry" then puts the orange tie on
Omg , imagine if the orange side is irrationality, Remus even said in the "Intrusive Thoughts" episode 'I bet that really gets to you huh , logan?' . He was talking about how being irrational must get to logan.
AHH! LOGAN IS THE ORANGE SIDE!! I don't know about you guys but I just found my new favorite headcanon. Edit: Looked into it, orange is blue's inverse on a color wheel and in RYB. This also applies to red and green (Remus and Roman), and in RGB, yellow and blue are inverted (Patton and Janus). This also sometimes works for Janus and Virgil. I think this is pretty cool. Pretty obvious, but pretty cool.
Absolutely, I'm a sucker for color theory! Technically yellow is complementary to purple, not blue (and one may argue that between light blue and dark blue it's closest to being complementary to dark blue), and if we consider how Remus and Roman are actually quite similar it would make sense for Janus to be Logan's dark side, since he and Logan both provide compelling arguments that they back up with evidence and references to famous scientists and philosophers. That being said we know that Janus and Patton are essentially the opposite of one another (selfishness and selflessness), so having the orange side being Logan's dark side is possible as well as incredibly intriguing for me!
@@midnight_art They said in RGB. the Red-Yellow-Blue colorwheel is honestly outdated, Red-Green-Blue or Cyan-Yellow-Magenta works a lot better. (cough cough cyan isn't blue)
My personal head cannon is that either Patton or Logan are actually orange since there both blue. But neither are orange because Thomas doesn’t like orange.
To be fair with you, I did this before the new video came out. When it came out I was already almost finished with the editing and I just thought about including the audio clip from Logan's lowdown. I did NOT expect for the new video to back this up so much!
It took me forever to find the audio clips 😂😂 but yeah, even if they didn't necessarely mean any harm, stringing them together kinda makes you realise how much they've done this.
Thank you so much for your comment! I have to say, I did NOT expect that kind of song to be in his playlist and I was speechless to say the least when I heard it
@@midnight_art same, i was not expecting that to be in the playlist. Face it, we all were paying attention to the other sides and not realizing that Logan is hurting.
@@Kale6196 na bro certified Logan stan here. Been super concerned abt him for abt a year and a half now, imagine how I feel after the new ep/playlist lol
@@sk3tch_art1st35 The original is on spotify (I think it'll come up if you search "Logan's Playlist") but here's a youtube playlist of the same songs in case you don't have spotify! ruclips.net/p/PLPdo6kq7nWwIrxbP_jHQqQ9d3_JtikLhs
No one: Me when I see “Dark Logan” in the title: *okay, this is serious. It’s getting real! EVERYONE CALM DOWN! JUST CHILL OUT FOR ONE SECOND.* Also me: YOU PATHETIC LIVES- (Sorry but I wanted to use a bloopers reference uwu)
I have a small theory, What if Roman and Patton are the “light sides” Who show good things, like art, love, and all that good stuff But then you have Remus and deceit/Janus who are the “dark sides” who show bad things like how you truly feel or intrusive thoughts But then you have the two are aren’t really good or bad, I’ll call these the gray sides. Logan and Virgil, while yes Virgil did say he used to be a dark side as the other felt anxiety was something evil, but now Virgil is in a gray area. Because anxiety isn’t really good or bad. It’s good to have some but bad to have too much. Now for Logan, he’s logic and sometimes your logic can be good and well-meaning but sometimes your logic can be dark and evil. We’ve seen Logan hurt the other sides to get his point across. The only other side we haven’t seen him “hurt” is Virgil. Logan actively tries to help calm Virgil down, like when they were in Patton’s room or durning the Asides video. [Edit] Also Virgil still has some of his “dark side” aspects because he doesn’t rise up he just pops in like how Janus and Remus just pop in unlike the “light sides.” And his voice still does that duplicate thing when his anxiety spikes. That’s my theory, I have more for the SvS redux video but that’s not for here.
I really like this theory. With Virgil it's a bit complicated because objectively what he does and what he encompasses is strictly related to the other dark sides. For example, Janus is self care and self preservation as well as selfishness amd deceit. It's easy to see how too much of that could be "evil" or dangerous, and the same goes for anxiety. That being said, I can 100% see Logan as a grey side. His opinions reflect both the ones of the light and the dark sides, and he stated himself that "life isn't black and white".
While this is an amazing theory, Logan didn't hurt Virgil, although Logan did make up for it. We know this because, in the episode where Logan and Virgil have a debate, Virgil admits that he believed Logan didn't like him because Logan called Virgil a defeatist. (This implies Virgil was hurt about what Logan said, as it is clear that The opinions of the "Light sides" matter to Virgil, as seen in accepting anxiety, Virgil would only return when every side wanted him back.) Link to video: ruclips.net/video/m-z0Q8Y9rLI/видео.html Time:11:06-11:54 Logan: And Anxiety- Virgil: Save your insults I'm just gonna deck out- Logan: Actually, um I was going to tell you that was a good debate today Virgil *hesitates* what? w-what do you mean... Logan: I mean, you did a good job. Virgil: How? I was barely trying... I hissed at you. Logan: Yes, I must admit that is a fairly uncommon debate tactic, but despite you clearly not enjoying in taking part you still participated, you offered your points, and you even reasoned in your own way. And all of that is ***commendable*** Thomas: This is so pure- Virgil: I gotta say... I don't really know how to react to you complimenting me... *Kinda thought you didn't like me* ***especially after last time when you called me a defeatist.*** Logan: Well, you are wrong about a lot of things but, I don't necessarily mind your company. (This next sentence might help prove ur theory still though regardless) __The other two (Patton and Roman) can bring in a whole lot of sunshine, and that can be unbearable__ (Since Logan would be a "Gray side" he would comment on the fact of how much joy and enthusiasm they bring) a-and *laugh* I can't imagen have a debate with either one of them. Virgil: I guess i just kinda assumed that yo- Logan: You jumped to a conclusion.
@@MistyMizzle yah, also in intrusive thoughts. Where he calls Virgil paranoid (well, technically he almost does, but that's not the point) Virgil clearly got upset after that. I know that this was like 2 years ago but idc
I feel like if this was an episode but Logan was just acting, he’d probably have a meltdown afterwards. Tearing his calendar in half, shoving his hard work off the desk, reminded of every insult he had to bear with, he wouldn’t have been happy
k. Logan is the orange side. I accept this- **remembers the broken crayon** OOOOO- K…LOGAN IS THE ORANGE SIDE This actually makes a LOT of sense. The first 2-parter and room we saw was all about Virgil’s character arc. The second was Patton’s. Given how things are going right now, the next will most likely be Roman’s. If the last one is Logan’s, I can totally see something like this being at the center of it. edit: wELP LOOK WHO CALLED IT-
This is definitely my favourite headcanon. And to be honest, while having to wait this long for Logan's arc is quite the task, I really like the idea of Logan's arc being the last one, it gives him a lot more room to develop! I guess we could consider SvS a two parter now so... Janus got his arc as well?
Anna Mezzanotte Dude highkey after I made this comment I speant hours texting my friend and posting on tiktok and reddit how this theory actually makes sense and if it doesn’t happen imma cry~
@@koalagirl5882 That's an old theory based on a Sanders Sides poster. Basically there were a bunch of crayons in the background, the blue one was broken and some people immediately took the opportunity to make some angsty theories about it 😂 Mainly about how Patton or Logan are going to "snap" in some way
"With purple hair nobody will take you seriously, and onesies are childish" Yeah. Again, that could very well just be the transition from the teacher character from Vine to Logan, but still, he used to smile a lot more.
Since everyone's talking about their out of character theories about dark Logan, I'll pop mine in too. I personally think that the most logical form for the dark version of Logan to take would be the result of his seemingly being bottled up emotions imploding, amplifying the apathy or emotional desensitization that Logan already seems to have, just scaled up to 11, practically nullifying and becoming the antitheses of the other two original sides, after all, they both are overly emotional, so inconsistent and unpredictable by nature that they probably drive Logan crazy, and perhaps they will, and Thomas along with him.
That's a very nice theory. After all, being emotionless is what Logan is trying to come across as to balance out all of the other emotionally charged sides.
I love dark Logan of all the “evil” versions of the main four. This design is actually pretty close to the one me and my friend thought of, even down to the slick back hair(though we imagined he replaced his glasses with contacts). This is amazing, great job!
Thank you so much! I actually had another design for dark Logan, inspired by the industrial revolution (and he had a monocle instead of his glasses), but I figured it wouldn't really fit with the series, so I just put it on instagram lol. I'm glad we had similar ideas, and thank you for your comment!
Logan: That you've erased me! Roman: wtf is this Virgil: You're crazy. I know that it wasn't supposed to be funny but I keep replaying it and giggling. I had never seen this song before and it caught me by surprise.
@@midnight_art It took me by surprise, the hatred in his eyes I've pushed this man as far as he could go But he lacked the words to let me know I acted out now I can see it is my fault
I have a theory that Logan's his own dark side which would be Insanity and his name could be Manic I got from the word maniac and sounds like Mania who in th Greek mythology is the goddess of insanity and madness or (he could keep the name Logan) . I think it makes sense since insanity is to act impulsively, foolish and have trouble telling the difference between reality and fantasy and maybe that is slowly happening to Thomas believing that his sides are more and more real with each passing episode and that goes against all logic, plus Logan was the first side we were introduced to so it would be cool if his dark side was the last to show up.
@@Crowdraws I know I'm late but that could work to since humans tend to act illogical when they are angry and maybe open up some doors for Thomas having trouble controlling his anger
What if Orange acts like a virus? Logan is very computer/robot like. The more and more he gets pushed away, the more Orange can influence/infiltrate Logan. Maybe eventually it becomes more powerful and controlling, breaking out and revealing itself as the ANGER in Logan.
I love this idea, and it reminds me of another song in his playlist: the Breach. "The pulses of the cargo are still rising and endorphins that are often linked to violence are too critical to manage" sums this up pretty nicely!
I think this is so cool-- it reminded me of a part in Learning New Things About Ourselves where after Roman calls Logan stupid, he screams and hits Roman in the eye with one of his flashcards. It's a little subtle, but after that happens, it cuts to Logan with a surprised expression, like he didn't realize he did that. Idk how much that would tie into your theory tho
That's exactly what I was trying to convey with the "gravity won" part. It's likely just an adjustment that had to be made from the "teacher character from vine" to Logan, but it still saddens me, especially if we consider the onesie thing.
@@The_gay_cousin Yes! We've seen how he hasn't lost his carefree traits, but he has suppressed them to appear more serious, therefore more believable and hopefully more listened to
I headcanon that one of the creators of Sanders Sides saw this animatic and was just like, "Oh, this isn't what we were planning on, but it's rad as hell so we're doing it now."
Ok here’s my head cannon for this now, Logan was/is the orange side and was tasked by the other sides to infiltrate the light sides for them. However over time Logan actually started to have feelings for Roman and Patton. Slowly but surely he morphed into logic instead of the orange side. Suppressing that part of himself to become logic. However every now and then he has relapses and over time it gets harder for him to control himself. Maybe Logan stayed with the light sides for so long that Virgil was sent to do what Logan could not, but he to became a light side. Lately (especially the last video) Logan has seemed a bit off. Maybe he finally snapped because other than Virgil he is the least accepted by the group. Edit: I was just listening to this again and the line “Turned around in two weeks time replaced me” stuck with me. Giving me a new addition to the head cannon. Before Logan was logic there was another because in all honesty we’ve seen what happens when one of the sides decides to tap out. So anyways I think that either this “old” logic either had a falling out with Roman and Patton or was taken out by the dark sides so Logan could have a spot as one of the light sides. So during the timeline of this song Logan is referencing how they just replaced the logic before him and that once he (Logan) left they’d just wait two weeks and find another side to take his spot. He most likely referenced this to guilt trip the others. I’m probably reading to far into this but I don’t have anything better to do with my time. Also, I’m genuinely curious, what do you think Logan was before he was logic?
0:51-1:01 is so chilling and I can't describe why. It's like being forgotten and the certainty that things won't end well personified, maybe? I love the orange glow of his lamp slowly taking over more of his face and room as he snaps, but also how the music is still very measured. Like I expected it to have a lot of punch at that moment, but the anger that should've correlated with his actions wasn't there. It made it feel more calculated. And the music doesn't really pick up again until it gets sporadic and loud as he becomes orange, which was really unsettling and cool. I really like the timing and detail throughout.
Thank you, SO much, for taking the time to analyze this. I'm surprised at how close your interpretation is to my original idea: the sad and bitter resignation of the frames at 1:00, the orange light becoming more intense and the calculated anger. I was struggling to figure out how to depict someone as composed as Logan slowly letting his anger out, and I tried my best to make the viewer feel like him: it seems like he's about to snap, you can feel the frustration building up, but ultimately he fixes his tie and pushes his feelings down again. That's why 2:21 feels so powerful, even if the only thing happening is Logan slicking his hair back. I'm sorry, this ended up being really long, but thank you again for your comment, I really, really appreciate it!
*Sees this pop up* YES I WAS HOPING SOMEONE WOULD MAKE AN ANIMATIC TO THIS Edit: OMG THE ACTUAL SPOKEN LINES Edit 2: WOW Okay I cannot believe I’ve never heard of this theory before but I love it? Also Roman’s timing of “what the f*** is this” I just loved for some reason. Personally I have absolutely no theories on who the orange side may be or what he may represent, but seeing everyone else’s interpretations are awesome. I also really love the Evil Logan trope, even if before now I never thought of him literally being the orange side. TLDR: I love this.
I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate you saying this, really, I can't thank you enough. I know this is an unlikely theory but hey, it's just so cool!
The editing is incredible. I've never seen someone splice parts of the actual episodes into the animatic, and for it to work so well! The idea of him remembering everything that's happened to him in the past. (ALSO I'm reading everything about Logan as the orange side, and WHAT?!?! Amazing.)
Oh gosh thank you so much, really! And yeah isn't it cool? It is unlikely since we haven't seen any side "shift" during the series but it's still one of my favourite headcanons!
Oh my gods! Logan is such an insecure baby🥺 Even in the newest episode when he came back he said something like “Not that any of your care but I am unharmed.” I just wanna give him a hug😖
@@midnight_art well ... he did make a tweet about artists interpretations of Patton having round glasses so with that in this animatic as well as how closely Logan's eyes resemble this animatic I think he may have used it for inspiration. He said in a livestream a year or two ago he often watches and rewatches an animatic or two for whatever ss epi he is working on at said time. =)
*spoilers for Putting Others First* Let's be fair, POF with how Logan was acting(and especially how he was _treated_ by everyone), plus with the hints at the orange side in the thumbnail and the video, I'd be very unsurprised if Logan joined the Others, regardless of if he became Orange or if he did the dual character thing or whatever other theories there are. Especially around the same time Orange came in? He'd even the scales, too, what with Janus joining the 'Lights.' Logan could easily earn their respect out of fear since being patient isn't working with all of them. Actually, it'd be interesting if his reasoning for initially being on the 'Lights' side was because Virgil, Janus, Remus, and Orange were all the Others, and so it evened out the scales. After all.. he's morally gray. He's said it himself, yeah? He's agreed with, listened to, understood, and argued with both sides. But now, I could see his reasoning being "y'all are rude as hell, I'm going to get the respect I deserve one way or another." As well as evening the scales, of course.
See, this is why I love theories. "His reasoning for being on the light side is because it evens out the scale", now that's what I'm talking about. Logan would not believe in the whole "light and dark" sides thing, he knows that they're all equal parts of Thomas, but he also knows that the so called "dark sides" all manage to get listened to in one way or another: Virgil raises his voice, Janus shuts others up and Remus can't really be stopped from doing his thing and conjuring unpleasant imagery. Logan could easily think "I really don't want to do this, but it is imperative that you listen to me, and you give me no other choice".
Lord, this is really incredible. The expressions are a little bland sometimes (other times they really work) but the shot progression especially at the beginning is really good. Keep going my dude you definitely have talent.
Thank you for the criticism! I totally get where you're coming from, I really appreciate it. I was kind of in a rush to finish this one, but next time I'll take more time to take this into consideration!
Anna Mezzanotte lol I really get it, after the newest sides dropped there’s a desire to drop content soon after, currently feeling that right now with my project even though it’s big enough that that isn’t really a possibility.
@@midnight_art And Angst of my other favorite characters. Also my ships. Anyone here in Undertale (AUs and Dreamswap) fandom or mildly (Likes reading fanfiction but doesn't ship anyone) in any other one? I like my ship Intruloceit- Remus x Logan x Deceit. I also like Loceit and Intrulogical.
Rewatching this repeatedly is making me cry a bit. Logan is my favorite, and seeing him with an inferiority complex like shown with this song and his quote from the latest episode makes me worry about him.
@@midnight_art Same. It is mine too! I go on Archiveofourown and search with a tag along the lines of 'Logan Sanders needs a hug'. It gives me tons of angst!
What was our home Paper not stone A lean-to at most And when you pulled your half away Gravity won Like it always does Did I weigh a ton? Would it be easier to just delete Our pages and the plans we made? Erase me So you don't have to face me Put me in the ground and mow the daisies Ah, the memory, see how it goes When you Erase me Erase me So what will you do With no me for you? I know what we said But what if I left a thing or two We know that you don't seem To think about what you need 'til you reach to find that you've Erased me What the fuck is this? You're crazy, turned around In two weeks time replaced me Ah, the memory everybody knows How it goes you just Erase me And you'll never have to face me Erase me Option-Command-Escape me And if you feel nothing Guess what I'll be: Nithing
Spoilers for Newest Episode I could really sense Thomas was building on something because there’s no way Thomas was missing the obvious angst. I really feel that Thomas looked to your video for inspiration. Amazing job on the animatic btw!
@@akayadsh Someone recreated the playlists on youtube as well I believe! Just look up "*insert side* playlist spotify" and you should find it. Thomas has been releasing a playlist each sunday for a few weeks! We have Roman's, Patton's, Logan's and Virgil's for now. :)
I *REALLY* want this Logan going "bad"/turning into the orange-side thing to be canon, perfect villain material here! at 0:51 you perfectly displayed how over time he lost his kind geek personality and turned into whatever the other sides needed him to do for them, he took down remus after all the other sides failed because they wouldn't listen to him.
Also, he probably noticed that whenever a "dark side" shows up they get all the attention and so if Logan wants attention the logical thing would to become a "dark side"
Dude yes! This is exactly what I can see happening! Maybe he'll either become the Orange side, or try to split himself from his emotions and we get two, like the Creativity Twins. I definitely think the split would result in Orange being something like anger or temperment in general. Fantastic!
This is my favorite Sanders Sides animatic EVER! I barely see Logan angst. I also like the idea of Logan being the orange side. I think he would be anger/rage, but mostly rage. Anna Midnight, if you see this, just know that thank you for making these beautiful animatics. Love, Tatiana
Hi Tatiana, I just want to thank you for your incredibly kind words, and I want you to know how much this means to me. I'm so happy to know that you enjoy watching these as much as I enjoy making them. I hope you have a lovely day!
I was mind blown because like orange is the opposite color to blue and logan’s been changing like how you showed here and now I cant get that out of my head 🤯
I can't wait to see who the orange side is going to be! And I really hope it will have something to do with Logan, since orange is complementary to blue. Maybe he'll be the one "dark" side that Logan can't deal calmly with, like he did with all the others.
Damn you called Logan with orange eyes nine months before the working through intrusive thoughts episode. Can't wait for another episode knowing orange is definitely making an appearance
YO, have you seen the recent asides episode?? Logan's eyes turned an orangish colour, and I immediately thought about this video, I can't wait until he reveals who it might be-
That moment at 0:52 where you see Logan go from excitable to just...reserved and then stand off-ish is...heart wrenching. I feel like its so accurate to the canon of the series where over time Logan has just withdrawn himself more and more. This is the good angsty stuff
@@midnight_art As soon as I convert it from just chicken scratch (my terrible handwriting) to the computer, I'm probably going to be doing a slideshow thing and post it here on RUclips. There are at least five full fledged theories in there that will be shared at some point.
Basically everyone in the fandom is currently venting to high heaven and back until we get the next episode which will either address some shit or will just wind up the tension even more. Hoo boy this'll be fun :)
Came back to this video in 2021 to say- This animatic's probably going to get a LOT more views given the last Sanders Aside episode, and the upcoming main story video.
2:22 got me *good* the use of such a controlled frustrated gesture to transition between " emotions " while revealing the new persona so clearly and easily just through the eyes and the hair change is just. * chef's kiss * also the high pitched *whattheFUCISTHIS-?* of roman makes me chuckle
Orange could be ignorance , a lack of knowledge and logic... since logic is always there even not physically there is always logic ALSO we haven't seen Logan's room just a thought ALSO ASLO!!!! Logan here looking like a snack!!!! If it is even possible you made me love Logan even more!!!!
I'm very glad to hear that! And yes also, Logan was the first character to be introduced, and given how Roman's arc is going to be next I think Logan's is going to be the last. A lovely full circle!
I’m telling you, the worst thing in this video was that he threw everything out the floor, snapped a calendar in half, and yelled yet the sides didn’t come to check on him. I for one know that causes A LOT of noise so the fact that they didn’t care made me so sad! They just stood in their group and talked until he came downstairs!
Bad behaviour is often the cause of lack of logic or bad logic! They are going after his defences! Making morality question himself and to be less strict. While also blocking out logic and corrupting him (making him rage), so they can use logic to make them him take their advice. Logic is the one that always comes to rescue when dealing with the dark sides, we've seen Janus wants Thomas to not only to recognise them but also embrace them. That's what the courtroom was about, showing him to be a bad person and get him to admit it (same as Remy's song) and take off the blind fold to more easily hit the pinata (get what he wants) he said that their are other ways of getting people to do what they want and released Remus who tries to convince every he's evil, even Virgil was believing him. Even in his last ep he was suggesting using force to get another callback, then said baby steps, and Remus was trying to get him to stab Nico, with logic being the only person to help, so Remus ignores Logan while he's reaching out, knowing he doesn't like it, to enrage him.
If you think about it, Logan has the power to erase them all... Logic can overcome and beat: Lies, Creativity, Anxiety and Emotions. Sure, maybe morality could fight back but Logan has a lot of power.
Absolutely, and we've seen how much power he holds with the "dark sides". Janus had to keep him out of the courtroom scenario, and Remus tried to kill him with no success (and we know that he CAN have an impact, he knocked Roman out for a whole episode).
Yeah but I don't think he would want to do that to poor Patton!
Oh damn,
HE'D MAKE A GREAT VILLAIN!
@@midnight_art I love Logan as a whole already, but Logan as a villain? SIGN ME UP!
@Zumii Time He would!!!
YO LOGAN TURNING INTO THE ORANGE SIDE WOULD BE SUCH A COOL AND SAD TWIST
It's my favourite headcanon/theory so far!
Anna Midnight I was actually talking to my friend about this and saying that all the sides definitely have an alternate and I was thinking orange was Logan’s!Also thinking all the sides are gonna have a two part problem episode but that’s just a theory
OH MY GOD 😭
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I see This too Cuz everyone has a distinct coloration "dark" or "light" side
patton is light blue
roman is red
virgil is purple
Jamus is Yellow
Remus is Green
and logan is dark blue? it kinda makes sense and it would differ things virgil being accepted and "turned" into a "light" side and jamus being accepted but deciding to work from the "dark" side to help thomas better and logan thinking the "light" side doesn't want them(just gonna say this now cuz the light side feels way more like emotional side and the dark side seems more like the factual side to me pat roman and virgil are all very emotion based personalities and deceit and logan are litterally information based personalities remus would be like... this fact exists... even if you don't like it it doesn't make a fact go away a goldfish in a condom can exist
oh so that's why he was so cheery at the beginning, at the time everyone was fine but as things got worse Logan started having issues with the orange side,not telling anyone,trying to protect them, but ultimately failing and breaking down at the end.I think them not including him in the court room really pushed him over the line.Even if it was a small thing.
my poor baby
What really frustrates me is that Logan's efforts are almost completely never aknowledged. At the beginning he was a little more open I think, and the others actually listened to him for the most part, but as they stopped paying any attention to him he tried very hard not to be seen as a joke and lost his cheerfulness. They straight up didn't want him in the courtroom, he realized he was probably being too direct with his interventions so in the latest episode he made that lowdown thing in an attempt to "be less invasive" and what was the response? An irritated "you very much did not succeed".
@@midnight_art yeah, I think this animatic really shows Logans struggles and how hard he trys. In the newest episode in logans lowdown thing we wasn't even bothering them,like talking that is, but as soon as the skip button appears( Aka Janice snatching him up) Patton automatically clicks it.
-hewasntevendoinganything-
@@thatone_random_kid8964 Right?? I mean, we know he said he can take it, but that was just unnecessarely mean. Thank you for the comment by the way!
@@midnight_art I know it kinda makes me sad
And yeah np!
I always wanted an orange side to complete the rainbow! Thought it’d be Patton though. Dark green, light blue, then dark purple doesn’t really work. (I know everyone else is being serious here but I had to say it when they pointed it out)
I always imagined Logan was a dark side. I liked to think he’d be anger/rage. And this was awesome!
Same! And thank you so much!! Also, the fact that he's mostly wearing balck, like the dark sides? Surely a coincidence but it definitely does feed this headcanon.
Yeah! It just fits so perfectly!
He’s also the most aware of Virgil being a dark side early on. Like when he almost told him he was being paranoid.
@@jibsjensen2587 Mostly, he was the only one who recognized and accepted the points of view of the dark sides. Like him complimenting Virgil after the debate, agreeing with Janus's points in the last video, accepting intrusive thoughts as normal. He said himself that "reality is not so black and white"... I just like this headcanon so much
Yeah! It’s been one of my favorites since I got into this fandom.
Wait why does he look hotter-
Ahahahahah well thank you? 😂
It's making me question my sexuality
being evil is hot, fight me
@@fuller7919 not all xd
It’s because all villains are hot. I mean, Remus!
OH NO HE'S HOT
Ahahahaha well thank you 😂
DANG IT THE NERD BECAME HOT
You ain't wrong
hes been hot tho
@@pudauncle1712 Ehhh I've always liked snek boi more either way
We need an episode where they realise what they're doing to logan and they find logan with an orange tie in his hands in his room and he says "I'm sorry" then puts the orange tie on
The fact that he does so willingly is even more powerful
Omg , imagine if the orange side is irrationality, Remus even said in the "Intrusive Thoughts" episode 'I bet that really gets to you huh , logan?' .
He was talking about how being irrational must get to logan.
@@gooseboii5677 I'm loving all the theories I'm reading in the comments right now, this is literally the best thing
YOOOO WAIT, THATS A REALLY GOOD IDEA DO YOU HAVE AN INSTAGRAM???? I REALLY WANNA DRAW THIS AND I WANNA CREDIT YOU FOR THE IDEA !!!!!!
@@ashe_stxr If you draw this let me know cause i want to see it!
AHH! LOGAN IS THE ORANGE SIDE!! I don't know about you guys but I just found my new favorite headcanon.
Edit: Looked into it, orange is blue's inverse on a color wheel and in RYB.
This also applies to red and green (Remus and Roman), and in RGB, yellow and blue are inverted (Patton and Janus). This also sometimes works for Janus and Virgil. I think this is pretty cool. Pretty obvious, but pretty cool.
Absolutely, I'm a sucker for color theory! Technically yellow is complementary to purple, not blue (and one may argue that between light blue and dark blue it's closest to being complementary to dark blue), and if we consider how Remus and Roman are actually quite similar it would make sense for Janus to be Logan's dark side, since he and Logan both provide compelling arguments that they back up with evidence and references to famous scientists and philosophers.
That being said we know that Janus and Patton are essentially the opposite of one another (selfishness and selflessness), so having the orange side being Logan's dark side is possible as well as incredibly intriguing for me!
@@midnight_art They said in RGB. the Red-Yellow-Blue colorwheel is honestly outdated, Red-Green-Blue or Cyan-Yellow-Magenta works a lot better.
(cough cough cyan isn't blue)
YES I WAS JUST THINKING THIS I love this theory so much
*janus*
My personal head cannon is that either Patton or Logan are actually orange since there both blue. But neither are orange because Thomas doesn’t like orange.
This hits different after the new video with him not being there in person. Good job!
Also I love the color change!
To be fair with you, I did this before the new video came out. When it came out I was already almost finished with the editing and I just thought about including the audio clip from Logan's lowdown. I did NOT expect for the new video to back this up so much!
@@midnight_art The audio clip really added a whole new level to this
This hits even more after last asides video
And it hits even more with the new episode.
Logan: *slicks his hair back*
My last shred of Heterosexuality: *aight I'm boutta head out*
mood
Literal mood
MOOD
Mood
OH MY GOD YOU EDITED THEM INSULTING LOGAN IN THIS AAAAAA
It took me forever to find the audio clips 😂😂 but yeah, even if they didn't necessarely mean any harm, stringing them together kinda makes you realise how much they've done this.
I mean, Erase Me definitely hit hard while listening to the playlist but this adds a whole other level of depth to it
Thank you so much for your comment! I have to say, I did NOT expect that kind of song to be in his playlist and I was speechless to say the least when I heard it
@@midnight_art same, i was not expecting that to be in the playlist. Face it, we all were paying attention to the other sides and not realizing that Logan is hurting.
@@Kale6196 na bro certified Logan stan here. Been super concerned abt him for abt a year and a half now, imagine how I feel after the new ep/playlist lol
Which playlist is it in? I wanna find it but idk if he took it out. Also I love all the theories and this video!
@@sk3tch_art1st35 The original is on spotify (I think it'll come up if you search "Logan's Playlist") but here's a youtube playlist of the same songs in case you don't have spotify! ruclips.net/p/PLPdo6kq7nWwIrxbP_jHQqQ9d3_JtikLhs
No one:
Me when I see “Dark Logan” in the title: *okay, this is serious. It’s getting real! EVERYONE CALM DOWN! JUST CHILL OUT FOR ONE SECOND.*
Also me: YOU PATHETIC LIVES-
(Sorry but I wanted to use a bloopers reference uwu)
The bloopers have some magnificent lines that fit the characters so well, and the ones you referenced are some of my absolute favourites
tHIS IS SO GREAT !! IM SUCH A SUCKER FOR ORANGE SIDE LOGAN AND THIS WAS SO WELL EXECUTED
THANK YOU!!!!! And as much as it's not the most likely theory I just love it sooo much!!
I have a small theory,
What if Roman and Patton are the “light sides” Who show good things, like art, love, and all that good stuff
But then you have Remus and deceit/Janus who are the “dark sides” who show bad things like how you truly feel or intrusive thoughts
But then you have the two are aren’t really good or bad, I’ll call these the gray sides. Logan and Virgil, while yes Virgil did say he used to be a dark side as the other felt anxiety was something evil, but now Virgil is in a gray area. Because anxiety isn’t really good or bad. It’s good to have some but bad to have too much. Now for Logan, he’s logic and sometimes your logic can be good and well-meaning but sometimes your logic can be dark and evil. We’ve seen Logan hurt the other sides to get his point across. The only other side we haven’t seen him “hurt” is Virgil. Logan actively tries to help calm Virgil down, like when they were in Patton’s room or durning the Asides video.
[Edit] Also Virgil still has some of his “dark side” aspects because he doesn’t rise up he just pops in like how Janus and Remus just pop in unlike the “light sides.” And his voice still does that duplicate thing when his anxiety spikes.
That’s my theory, I have more for the SvS redux video but that’s not for here.
I really like this theory.
With Virgil it's a bit complicated because objectively what he does and what he encompasses is strictly related to the other dark sides. For example, Janus is self care and self preservation as well as selfishness amd deceit. It's easy to see how too much of that could be "evil" or dangerous, and the same goes for anxiety.
That being said, I can 100% see Logan as a grey side. His opinions reflect both the ones of the light and the dark sides, and he stated himself that "life isn't black and white".
Anna Mezzanotte yeah, now we must wonder what the final side is going to be
While this is an amazing theory, Logan didn't hurt Virgil, although Logan did make up for it. We know this because, in the episode where Logan and Virgil have a debate, Virgil admits that he believed Logan didn't like him because Logan called Virgil a defeatist. (This implies Virgil was hurt about what Logan said, as it is clear that The opinions of the "Light sides" matter to Virgil, as seen in accepting anxiety, Virgil would only return when every side wanted him back.)
Link to video: ruclips.net/video/m-z0Q8Y9rLI/видео.html
Time:11:06-11:54
Logan: And Anxiety-
Virgil: Save your insults I'm just gonna deck out-
Logan: Actually, um I was going to tell you that was a good debate today
Virgil *hesitates* what? w-what do you mean...
Logan: I mean, you did a good job.
Virgil: How? I was barely trying... I hissed at you.
Logan: Yes, I must admit that is a fairly uncommon debate tactic, but despite you clearly not enjoying in taking part you still participated, you offered your points, and you even reasoned in your own way.
And all of that is ***commendable***
Thomas: This is so pure-
Virgil: I gotta say... I don't really know how to react to you complimenting me... *Kinda thought you didn't like me* ***especially after last time when you called me a defeatist.***
Logan: Well, you are wrong about a lot of things but, I don't necessarily mind your company. (This next sentence might help prove ur theory still though regardless) __The other two (Patton and Roman) can bring in a whole lot of sunshine, and that can be unbearable__ (Since Logan would be a "Gray side" he would comment on the fact of how much joy and enthusiasm they bring) a-and *laugh* I can't imagen have a debate with either one of them.
Virgil: I guess i just kinda assumed that yo-
Logan: You jumped to a conclusion.
Mohini DAMODARAN [08N05]
Technically, the name Virgil is derived from Virgillius, so his name kinda ends with us
@@MistyMizzle yah, also in intrusive thoughts. Where he calls Virgil paranoid (well, technically he almost does, but that's not the point) Virgil clearly got upset after that.
I know that this was like 2 years ago but idc
I feel like if this was an episode but Logan was just acting, he’d probably have a meltdown afterwards. Tearing his calendar in half, shoving his hard work off the desk, reminded of every insult he had to bear with, he wouldn’t have been happy
I agree, and I love your profile pic!
k. Logan is the orange side. I accept this-
**remembers the broken crayon**
OOOOO-
K…LOGAN IS THE ORANGE SIDE
This actually makes a LOT of sense. The first 2-parter and room we saw was all about Virgil’s character arc. The second was Patton’s. Given how things are going right now, the next will most likely be Roman’s. If the last one is Logan’s, I can totally see something like this being at the center of it.
edit: wELP LOOK WHO CALLED IT-
This is definitely my favourite headcanon. And to be honest, while having to wait this long for Logan's arc is quite the task, I really like the idea of Logan's arc being the last one, it gives him a lot more room to develop! I guess we could consider SvS a two parter now so... Janus got his arc as well?
Anna Mezzanotte Dude highkey after I made this comment I speant hours texting my friend and posting on tiktok and reddit how this theory actually makes sense and if it doesn’t happen imma cry~
Broken crayon?
@@koalagirl5882 That's an old theory based on a Sanders Sides poster. Basically there were a bunch of crayons in the background, the blue one was broken and some people immediately took the opportunity to make some angsty theories about it 😂 Mainly about how Patton or Logan are going to "snap" in some way
@@midnight_art ohhh
You: “what’s that sound?”
*loud sounds of fanders sprinting to this animatic after the drop of the asides vid*
2 words,
Under appreciated
Thank you so much for this, I didn't really think anyone would even notice the video at all to be honest
No problem, this actually got on my recommendations, keep doing art, your amazing at it!!
@@nyss902 Oh really? It did? Wow I did not expecy that, and thank you again you're so kind!
I like how finally someone else noticed how he used to smile a lot and do finger guns, and now it's just "I'm serious, I wear a neck tie"
"With purple hair nobody will take you seriously, and onesies are childish"
Yeah. Again, that could very well just be the transition from the teacher character from Vine to Logan, but still, he used to smile a lot more.
God forgive me for finding roman screeching 'WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS' so goddamned hilarious
Is he wrong tho 🤣🤣
Deceit: "Callback."
Heavily breathing Logan.
Those made me go Aahhhh...
The fact that this is even closer to becoming canon now-
Ikr??
@@midnight_art I'm so excited for it
Since everyone's talking about their out of character theories about dark Logan, I'll pop mine in too. I personally think that the most logical form for the dark version of Logan to take would be the result of his seemingly being bottled up emotions imploding, amplifying the apathy or emotional desensitization that Logan already seems to have, just scaled up to 11, practically nullifying and becoming the antitheses of the other two original sides, after all, they both are overly emotional, so inconsistent and unpredictable by nature that they probably drive Logan crazy, and perhaps they will, and Thomas along with him.
That's a very nice theory. After all, being emotionless is what Logan is trying to come across as to balance out all of the other emotionally charged sides.
I feel like I've been stabbed....
It's so good...
Thank you so much, and I'm sorry 😂😅
Okay, but this hits so different after the newest Sander Sides.
That hair *swish* thing gave my butterflies-
this is my new favourite video on the internet, it deserves more love and attention
omg thank you SO much for this, I'm so gald you liked it!!
Op has access to the script apparently considering the new ep
Op is currently freaking out about the new ep
I love dark Logan of all the “evil” versions of the main four. This design is actually pretty close to the one me and my friend thought of, even down to the slick back hair(though we imagined he replaced his glasses with contacts).
This is amazing, great job!
Thank you so much! I actually had another design for dark Logan, inspired by the industrial revolution (and he had a monocle instead of his glasses), but I figured it wouldn't really fit with the series, so I just put it on instagram lol. I'm glad we had similar ideas, and thank you for your comment!
Spoilers:
You really hit the nail on the head, angry outburst and orange eyes in all
_YOU CALLED IT._
HOLY CRAP---
Logan: That you've erased me!
Roman: wtf is this
Virgil: You're crazy.
I know that it wasn't supposed to be funny but I keep replaying it and giggling. I had never seen this song before and it caught me by surprise.
I was surprised to say the least as well when I heard the song for the first time! And that would be a plausible reaction from them 🤣
@@midnight_art It took me by surprise, the hatred in his eyes
I've pushed this man as far as he could go
But he lacked the words to let me know
I acted out now I can see it is my fault
My brain sang the last line of your comment because it's also a song-
The moment where Logan pushes his hair back is EVERYTHING
I'm so glad you liked it, thank you!!
This actually fits omg, like the opposite of Blue is technically Orange
Exactly! That's why I love colour theory so much hahaha
what a wonderful day to rewatch this animatic
Me, waking up to dozens of notifications on this video: 👁👄👁
@@midnight_art :D
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Logan completely morphing into Rage would be so cool as he's already a hotheaded side as it is!
Yeah! I't a cool headcanon to think about right?
@@midnight_art that new episode with the orange eyes yoooooooooo it's not so crazy
@@silverclover21 I literally fell from my couch when I saw that omg--
I have a theory that Logan's his own dark side which would be Insanity and his name could be Manic I got from the word maniac and sounds like Mania who in th Greek mythology is the goddess of insanity and madness or (he could keep the name Logan) . I think it makes sense since insanity is to act impulsively, foolish and have trouble telling the difference between reality and fantasy and maybe that is slowly happening to Thomas believing that his sides are more and more real with each passing episode and that goes against all logic, plus Logan was the first side we were introduced to so it would be cool if his dark side was the last to show up.
either that or anger
@@Crowdraws I know I'm late but that could work to since humans tend to act illogical when they are angry and maybe open up some doors for Thomas having trouble controlling his anger
Fits with the most recent episode where Thomas makes an impossible regimen/schedule at like 5am and Logan is trying to keep him motivated.
Who's here after watching the asides with Logan and Remus? This hits really hard
HHHHHHH
me xd
What if Orange acts like a virus? Logan is very computer/robot like. The more and more he gets pushed away, the more Orange can influence/infiltrate Logan. Maybe eventually it becomes more powerful and controlling, breaking out and revealing itself as the ANGER in Logan.
I love this idea, and it reminds me of another song in his playlist: the Breach. "The pulses of the cargo are still rising and endorphins that are often linked to violence are too critical to manage" sums this up pretty nicely!
Some might say he has officially lost his marbles.
@@midnight_art O_O what if that was foreshadowing from thomas.....?
I think this is so cool-- it reminded me of a part in Learning New Things About Ourselves where after Roman calls Logan stupid, he screams and hits Roman in the eye with one of his flashcards. It's a little subtle, but after that happens, it cuts to Logan with a surprised expression, like he didn't realize he did that. Idk how much that would tie into your theory tho
I just realized how much colder he gets in the first episode he's really happy and now in the new episode he's being ignored.Dang I'm crying
That's exactly what I was trying to convey with the "gravity won" part. It's likely just an adjustment that had to be made from the "teacher character from vine" to Logan, but it still saddens me, especially if we consider the onesie thing.
@@midnight_art but he did apologize to his onesie.
@@The_gay_cousin Yes! We've seen how he hasn't lost his carefree traits, but he has suppressed them to appear more serious, therefore more believable and hopefully more listened to
I headcanon that one of the creators of Sanders Sides saw this animatic and was just like, "Oh, this isn't what we were planning on, but it's rad as hell so we're doing it now."
Can you imagine LMAO that would be absolutely awesome and hilarious at the same time
Damn, Logan having emotions hits me in a way every time.
Ah, same
Ok here’s my head cannon for this now, Logan was/is the orange side and was tasked by the other sides to infiltrate the light sides for them. However over time Logan actually started to have feelings for Roman and Patton. Slowly but surely he morphed into logic instead of the orange side. Suppressing that part of himself to become logic. However every now and then he has relapses and over time it gets harder for him to control himself. Maybe Logan stayed with the light sides for so long that Virgil was sent to do what Logan could not, but he to became a light side. Lately (especially the last video) Logan has seemed a bit off. Maybe he finally snapped because other than Virgil he is the least accepted by the group.
Edit: I was just listening to this again and the line “Turned around in two weeks time replaced me” stuck with me. Giving me a new addition to the head cannon. Before Logan was logic there was another because in all honesty we’ve seen what happens when one of the sides decides to tap out. So anyways I think that either this “old” logic either had a falling out with Roman and Patton or was taken out by the dark sides so Logan could have a spot as one of the light sides. So during the timeline of this song Logan is referencing how they just replaced the logic before him and that once he (Logan) left they’d just wait two weeks and find another side to take his spot. He most likely referenced this to guilt trip the others.
I’m probably reading to far into this but I don’t have anything better to do with my time.
Also, I’m genuinely curious, what do you think Logan was before he was logic?
this is neat
I think of him as Curiosity, but Idk.
I’m sorry but that transition from dark blue to orange is AMAZINGG-
Oh!!! Thank you!!!
0:51-1:01 is so chilling and I can't describe why. It's like being forgotten and the certainty that things won't end well personified, maybe? I love the orange glow of his lamp slowly taking over more of his face and room as he snaps, but also how the music is still very measured. Like I expected it to have a lot of punch at that moment, but the anger that should've correlated with his actions wasn't there. It made it feel more calculated. And the music doesn't really pick up again until
it gets sporadic and loud as he becomes orange, which was really unsettling and cool. I really like the timing and detail throughout.
Thank you, SO much, for taking the time to analyze this. I'm surprised at how close your interpretation is to my original idea: the sad and bitter resignation of the frames at 1:00, the orange light becoming more intense and the calculated anger. I was struggling to figure out how to depict someone as composed as Logan slowly letting his anger out, and I tried my best to make the viewer feel like him: it seems like he's about to snap, you can feel the frustration building up, but ultimately he fixes his tie and pushes his feelings down again. That's why 2:21 feels so powerful, even if the only thing happening is Logan slicking his hair back.
I'm sorry, this ended up being really long, but thank you again for your comment, I really, really appreciate it!
*Sees this pop up* YES I WAS HOPING SOMEONE WOULD MAKE AN ANIMATIC TO THIS
Edit: OMG THE ACTUAL SPOKEN LINES
Edit 2: WOW Okay I cannot believe I’ve never heard of this theory before but I love it? Also Roman’s timing of “what the f*** is this” I just loved for some reason. Personally I have absolutely no theories on who the orange side may be or what he may represent, but seeing everyone else’s interpretations are awesome. I also really love the Evil Logan trope, even if before now I never thought of him literally being the orange side.
TLDR: I love this.
I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate you saying this, really, I can't thank you enough. I know this is an unlikely theory but hey, it's just so cool!
This hits different after watching Thomas’ newest video Working Through Intrusive Thoughts-
Logan: *using right hand to write
Me: *Boi u gud?*
I know that they're all left handed since so is Thomas, but... he does control Thomas's right arm so...
The editing is incredible. I've never seen someone splice parts of the actual episodes into the animatic, and for it to work so well! The idea of him remembering everything that's happened to him in the past. (ALSO I'm reading everything about Logan as the orange side, and WHAT?!?! Amazing.)
Oh gosh thank you so much, really! And yeah isn't it cool? It is unlikely since we haven't seen any side "shift" during the series but it's still one of my favourite headcanons!
bro i fucking love how everyone was right with the orange side haveing something to do with logan
2:23 i DEFINITELY DIDN'T laugh at this part....
Oh my gods! Logan is such an insecure baby🥺 Even in the newest episode when he came back he said something like “Not that any of your care but I am unharmed.” I just wanna give him a hug😖
Don't we all... And I really want to know what happened between him and Janus in that episode
Coming back to this now a year later and I am convinced Thomas watched it as inspiration for the latest sanders asides ...
If he did I can now die in peace
@@midnight_art well ... he did make a tweet about artists interpretations of Patton having round glasses so with that in this animatic as well as how closely Logan's eyes resemble this animatic I think he may have used it for inspiration. He said in a livestream a year or two ago he often watches and rewatches an animatic or two for whatever ss epi he is working on at said time. =)
*spoilers for Putting Others First*
Let's be fair, POF with how Logan was acting(and especially how he was _treated_ by everyone), plus with the hints at the orange side in the thumbnail and the video, I'd be very unsurprised if Logan joined the Others, regardless of if he became Orange or if he did the dual character thing or whatever other theories there are. Especially around the same time Orange came in? He'd even the scales, too, what with Janus joining the 'Lights.' Logan could easily earn their respect out of fear since being patient isn't working with all of them.
Actually, it'd be interesting if his reasoning for initially being on the 'Lights' side was because Virgil, Janus, Remus, and Orange were all the Others, and so it evened out the scales. After all.. he's morally gray. He's said it himself, yeah? He's agreed with, listened to, understood, and argued with both sides. But now, I could see his reasoning being "y'all are rude as hell, I'm going to get the respect I deserve one way or another." As well as evening the scales, of course.
See, this is why I love theories. "His reasoning for being on the light side is because it evens out the scale", now that's what I'm talking about. Logan would not believe in the whole "light and dark" sides thing, he knows that they're all equal parts of Thomas, but he also knows that the so called "dark sides" all manage to get listened to in one way or another: Virgil raises his voice, Janus shuts others up and Remus can't really be stopped from doing his thing and conjuring unpleasant imagery. Logan could easily think "I really don't want to do this, but it is imperative that you listen to me, and you give me no other choice".
Lord, this is really incredible. The expressions are a little bland sometimes (other times they really work) but the shot progression especially at the beginning is really good. Keep going my dude you definitely have talent.
Thank you for the criticism! I totally get where you're coming from, I really appreciate it. I was kind of in a rush to finish this one, but next time I'll take more time to take this into consideration!
Anna Mezzanotte lol I really get it, after the newest sides dropped there’s a desire to drop content soon after, currently feeling that right now with my project even though it’s big enough that that isn’t really a possibility.
@@thetwilighthunter1150 Totally, also with the fact that Thomas was asking for animators for his project I had to make something quickly 😂
What does Logan and Thanos have in common?
They both snapped.
The idea of dark Logan is my only reason to live anymore
Honestly same
@@midnight_art And Angst of my other favorite characters. Also my ships. Anyone here in Undertale (AUs and Dreamswap) fandom or mildly (Likes reading fanfiction but doesn't ship anyone) in any other one? I like my ship Intruloceit- Remus x Logan x Deceit. I also like Loceit and Intrulogical.
Rewatching this repeatedly is making me cry a bit. Logan is my favorite, and seeing him with an inferiority complex like shown with this song and his quote from the latest episode makes me worry about him.
I'm so curious about how his character is going to be developped, there is just so much potential!
This is the angst all of us wanted, but didn't know we needed.
I'm always happy to provide some angst since angsty ideas are basically all I have 😂
I’ve been drowning myself in sanders sides angst and this video really twists the knife in my feelings, thank you
I am very sorry but I'm glad you liked it, angst is my default mode
@@midnight_art Same. It is mine too! I go on Archiveofourown and search with a tag along the lines of 'Logan Sanders needs a hug'. It gives me tons of angst!
What was our home
Paper not stone
A lean-to at most
And when you pulled your half away
Gravity won
Like it always does
Did I weigh a ton?
Would it be easier to just delete
Our pages and the plans we made?
Erase me
So you don't have to face me
Put me in the ground and mow the daisies
Ah, the memory, see how it goes
When you
Erase me
Erase me
So what will you do
With no me for you?
I know what we said
But what if I left a thing or two
We know that you don't seem
To think about what you need
'til you reach to find that you've
Erased me
What the fuck is this?
You're crazy, turned around
In two weeks time replaced me
Ah, the memory everybody knows
How it goes you just
Erase me
And you'll never have to face me
Erase me
Option-Command-Escape me
And if you feel nothing
Guess what I'll be:
Nithing
O-o
Spoilers for Newest Episode
I could really sense Thomas was building on something because there’s no way Thomas was missing the obvious angst. I really feel that Thomas looked to your video for inspiration. Amazing job on the animatic btw!
If he did I can now die in peace. I can't wait to see how the series will go on from here!!
I love this too much-
Also isn't this in Logan Playlist?
Yep! That's what inspired me in the first place! I'm glad you like it!!
😊
Wait, playlist?
What am I missing!???
@@akayadsh its on spotify. Thomas has been making playlists of the sides
@@akayadsh Someone recreated the playlists on youtube as well I believe! Just look up "*insert side* playlist spotify" and you should find it. Thomas has been releasing a playlist each sunday for a few weeks! We have Roman's, Patton's, Logan's and Virgil's for now. :)
I *REALLY* want this Logan going "bad"/turning into the orange-side thing to be canon, perfect villain material here!
at 0:51 you perfectly displayed how over time he lost his kind geek personality and turned into whatever the other sides needed him to do for them, he took down remus after all the other sides failed because they wouldn't listen to him.
Ah, perfect villain material indeed! And thank you so much, I'm glad you liked it!
Also, he probably noticed that whenever a "dark side" shows up they get all the attention and so if Logan wants attention the logical thing would to become a "dark side"
Not you predicting Logans eye colour-
Not this very very unlikely headcanon ACTUALLY coming true
Wait this was made BEFORE that episode???
@@ishaalimtiaz6715 yep..
This video literally feels canon now.
Ikr omg!!
Dude yes! This is exactly what I can see happening! Maybe he'll either become the Orange side, or try to split himself from his emotions and we get two, like the Creativity Twins. I definitely think the split would result in Orange being something like anger or temperment in general. Fantastic!
Hey yeah! That's an awesome theory, I hadn't thought about it that way! By the way, thank you so much!
***Spoilers for new asides***
CONGRATS ON BECOMING CANON
I will now be passing away--
This is my favorite Sanders Sides animatic EVER! I barely see Logan angst. I also like the idea of Logan being the orange side. I think he would be anger/rage, but mostly rage. Anna Midnight, if you see this, just know that thank you for making these beautiful animatics.
Love, Tatiana
Hi Tatiana, I just want to thank you for your incredibly kind words, and I want you to know how much this means to me. I'm so happy to know that you enjoy watching these as much as I enjoy making them. I hope you have a lovely day!
Anna Midnight Omg! I hope u have a great day too!
Awww poor Logan! I never thought of him like this!!!
Headcanons often put things in new perspectives! 😊
THE ORANGE *CHILLS*
IKR
Very clever! I love the use of audio clips! It really made it feel like Logan's mindset, and I love your style! Realistic and beautiful! 🧡💙🧡
Hey, thank you so, so much for this comment!! It really made my day, I'm so glad you appreciated the audio clips, it took me forever to find them 😂😅
@@midnight_art yes!! You're so talented, keep doin what you're doin! So so cool!! :)
I know this is deep and all, but I can’t be the only one who finds roman’s “wtf is this” line hilarious
Scrolling through the comments, you'll soon find you are definitely not the only one 😂
I was mind blown because like orange is the opposite color to blue and logan’s been changing like how you showed here and now I cant get that out of my head 🤯
I can't wait to see who the orange side is going to be! And I really hope it will have something to do with Logan, since orange is complementary to blue. Maybe he'll be the one "dark" side that Logan can't deal calmly with, like he did with all the others.
Damn you called Logan with orange eyes nine months before the working through intrusive thoughts episode. Can't wait for another episode knowing orange is definitely making an appearance
YO, have you seen the recent asides episode?? Logan's eyes turned an orangish colour, and I immediately thought about this video, I can't wait until he reveals who it might be-
Omg yes!!! I cannot believe it, someone pinch me, this actually came true!!
Coming back here, I'm reeling from the new Sanders Asides like holy shit if y'all haven't seen it yet you won't be disappointed--
That moment at 0:52 where you see Logan go from excitable to just...reserved and then stand off-ish is...heart wrenching. I feel like its so accurate to the canon of the series where over time Logan has just withdrawn himself more and more. This is the good angsty stuff
"The good angsty stuff" shall be my motto from now on lol, anyway thank you so much!
EVERYONE HOLD ON! *writes new theory about Logan going crazy in sketch book labeled "orange theories"* okay continue on with your life
Please let me have a copy of this sketchbook, it sounds exactly like the kind of stuff I'd love to read!
@@midnight_art As soon as I convert it from just chicken scratch (my terrible handwriting) to the computer, I'm probably going to be doing a slideshow thing and post it here on RUclips. There are at least five full fledged theories in there that will be shared at some point.
Ooooooh the new Sanders Asides supports this theory so much oh my gosh (also if anyone's got some orange side!Logan fics, please recommend them to me)
Istg I screamed
2:22 that frame and coloring is AMAZING
Wow, thank you SO much!!!
Of course!!!
Why is “Nerdy Wolverine” an insult? Like, Wolverine is a badass. And was practically immortal.
I agree with u. Like if I got called nerdy Wolverine I would say thank you.
It's basicly like calling you a short and angry Canadian.
Hahahaha you're right, Roman's nicknames are not always insults. XD
Smart Immortal.....
Comes back to this after the new ep
Basically everyone in the fandom is currently venting to high heaven and back until we get the next episode which will either address some shit or will just wind up the tension even more. Hoo boy this'll be fun :)
Yeah, I can't wait to see how this series will continue!
How does it feel to be receive Apollo’s gift of prophecy?
I am but a very, very blessed vessel. Lmao someone pinch me please--
Omg his eyes when he turns orange and the sigh and then the smirk chillsss this is so good
Aaah thank you so much!! I'm so glad you liked it!
Apollo rly said give this one the gift of prophecy
Came back to this video in 2021 to say- This animatic's probably going to get a LOT more views given the last Sanders Aside episode, and the upcoming main story video.
Yelp, how does it feel to have predicted the future?
Someone pinch me please
CAN’T BELIEVE THIS IS BASICALLY CANON NOW HKKWBDND-
I love this animatic!!!
I can't believe it either!! And thank you so much!!
2:22 got me *good*
the use of such a controlled frustrated gesture to transition between " emotions " while revealing the new persona so clearly and easily just through the eyes and the hair change is just. * chef's kiss *
also the high pitched *whattheFUCISTHIS-?* of roman makes me chuckle
Oh, thank you SO much omg, I'm so glad this was appreciated!
this is definitely the video everyone looks back on and is like “holy shit it was all predicted here”
Orange could be ignorance , a lack of knowledge and logic... since logic is always there even not physically there is always logic ALSO we haven't seen Logan's room just a thought
ALSO ASLO!!!! Logan here looking like a snack!!!! If it is even possible you made me love Logan even more!!!!
I'm very glad to hear that! And yes also, Logan was the first character to be introduced, and given how Roman's arc is going to be next I think Logan's is going to be the last. A lovely full circle!
I’m telling you, the worst thing in this video was that he threw everything out the floor, snapped a calendar in half, and yelled yet the sides didn’t come to check on him. I for one know that causes A LOT of noise so the fact that they didn’t care made me so sad! They just stood in their group and talked until he came downstairs!
Let's pretend that whatever happens in a side's room is isolated enough to block all sounds, because yeah that makes a lot of noise indeed.
Anna Midnight ohhhhhhhhhhhhh oki
this is going to get so many views after Working Through Intrusive Thoughts
Bad behaviour is often the cause of lack of logic or bad logic!
They are going after his defences! Making morality question himself and to be less strict. While also blocking out logic and corrupting him (making him rage), so they can use logic to make them him take their advice.
Logic is the one that always comes to rescue when dealing with the dark sides, we've seen Janus wants Thomas to not only to recognise them but also embrace them.
That's what the courtroom was about, showing him to be a bad person and get him to admit it (same as Remy's song) and take off the blind fold to more easily hit the pinata (get what he wants) he said that their are other ways of getting people to do what they want and released Remus who tries to convince every he's evil, even Virgil was believing him. Even in his last ep he was suggesting using force to get another callback, then said baby steps, and Remus was trying to get him to stab Nico, with logic being the only person to help, so Remus ignores Logan while he's reaching out, knowing he doesn't like it, to enrage him.
You accurately predicted the orange eyes love that for you.
The Side Tracks give us all so much fandom fodder, it’s amazing.
S O. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO PREDICT TO FRIKIN FUTURE?
I will now simply be passing away--
@@midnight_art WAIT NO DON'T-
I know i should be worried for Logan but 2:21 dAMN BRUH THATS HOT
It seems to be a popular opinion in this comment section XD