I was using the 5D until 2014.Most of my favorite photos are shot with this camera, but unfortunately it is Dinosaur compared to my a7riii which is half the size. I still own the 5D and refuse selling it.The color science of this camera is fantastic. Specifically for portraits
I think you are right it excels for portraits, plus i like the sound of the shutter lol. It is a dinosaur but dinosaurs are cool too sometimes. I like using the 5d despite its limitations. Modern cameras for work though, they make life so much easier.
I used My old 5d mainly for landscapes. This technique was a game changer. The dynamic range of the eye and brain sensor still outperforms the dynamic range of modern sensors and often I still use this technique. The trick is to keep it natural looking. I used 3 brackets normal and +/- 1.5 stops. The 5d still can produce high quality images. The only limit was the auto focus and I love live view for composing the image. For its price the 5D has got to be the best bargain in secondhand equipment I wish I hadn't sold it.
The dynamic range here reminds me of the 16 mp m4/3 sensor. That’s not a criticism. It’s perfectly acceptable if you pay attention to what you are doing. Dynamic range is a bit overhyped and too many people are deathly afraid of shadows in their photography. Shadows add depth to an image and shouldn’t be eliminated.
i'd say from both online tests and personal findings that the 16mp m43 sensors have about a stop advantage over the 5dc, which is still very good. Just goes to show that you don't need a ton of dynamic range for good photographs.
Considering how old it is, with the inherent risks of electronics or mirror failure, sensor dust, incompatible technology and so on I think this Canon has a big following.
Ok so I don't have the classic but I have a new to me 5D2 which man oh man I love and you are so right about the bracketing. That truly does bring out all the dynamic range even in the 5D2. I still love shooting on it and the only thing that I truly wish it had is a tilting screen it would make it so much easier to use out in the field shooting landscape photos. I would not shoot anything else in my opinion for the IQ alone it is just so good
Thanks for posting this video. I'm a huge fan of the 5d classic and found this to be very helpful in how to go about post processing difficult files. i'm curious, do you have any experience with the EOS 1ds mk1 (11.1 megapixel)? There is very little posted about this camera online and seems to be almost forgotten. I believe there is a certain magic in these early sensors where the designers were trying so hard to compete with film. I've recently purchased one and would love to see your thoughts on the camera.
Belting video Martin. This is exactly what 5Dc users need to be seeing. Its an exceptional old camera which needs to be understood to get the best out of it. It is possible for the jpegs to look great, however as this videos shows, a few mins on LR can make all the difference. Really look forward to your videos, thanks 👍👍
Exactly what I was on about with my comment about exposing to the right.. mate you make this stuff easy to understand plus the use of Lightroom to edit is priceless… cheers!!
Excellent and informative video that demonstrating the importance of knowledge of equipment and histograms, and the workarounds, as well as the decisions needed when using equipment in the field and for intended post processing. Especially nice to see the 5D Classic in this demonstration. Your millionth subscriber would be only days away were it not for a defective RUclips algorithm. Good work! Best wishes!
May I add that the Canon 5D’s 12megapixel full frame sensor has a massive pixel pitch of 9 microns, which makes its low light performance at base ISO100 quite exceptional for its age. When shooting in RAW, I set the camera to lowest contrast in monochrome with a custom white balance and no sharpening or noise reduction switched off. In this way I can rely upon the histogram to show me everything I need to know about the RAW file and it’s 11.1 stop dynamic range. In post, I can convert and adjust everything accordingly. To put things in perspective, I have an Olympus E-1 which has a dynamic range of only 7.7 stops - a very different kind of beast that is excellent in low contrast lighting, but otherwise hopeless in strong daylight - unless on the lookout for a Kodachrome aesthetic. The Canon 5D is a fantastic camera, I have two, and shall never part with them.
Great video Martin. I’m not a Canon shooter but I tend to buy older second hand gear (currently Nikon d750) and use HDR/bracketing quite a bit as I think Lightroom makes a great job of it. From experience though you just have to remember to not go crazy with the edits with all that dynamic range available
Martin, thanks so much for reinvigorating my appreciation and interest for the 5D. I haven’t used it much but have held into it because I inherently knew it was good. Please keep showing us what the 5D can do. One question: does the in-camera histogram represent the tones in the file or those showing on the display? Thanks
the histogram represents the jpeg file based on the picture profile settings you set. This is true even if you are shooting raw only as the histogram reads only the jpeg. So if you shoot in monochrome and make the contrast maximum the histogram will show this even if it only records a raw file.
Yes I use neutral with contrast set to minimum. Thats the largest dynamic range you can show in a jpeg on the 5d and so is closest to the raw file. I have a settings video for the 5d on my channel that might help.
Honestly as someone who has both cameras, I find the 5D classic in a league of its own. The skin tones, the dreamy magical 3d look. Only thing the mark 2 is better is that you can crop more because of more megapixels. The Color on the mark 2ndoesn’t seem anywhere near as good as the 5D classsic
@@Bigredfitnessmoshe only thing better is cropping? Do a video showing you using both cameras, as I don’t believe you have both. The only thing better about the classic is the colours in certain situations, even then it is down to personal preference. The 5D mkii is far sharper due to the higher megapixel count, with superior high iso performance, way better dynamic range… the only thing better about the 5D classic is the character of the images, nothing else looks like it. But to say the only thing 5D mkii does better is cropping is just a false statement.
@@ESKATEUK no need for any personal attacks. I have both cameras, and I just don’t like the mark 2 at all. Like you say, personal preferences. Maybe I wasn’t so clear. It’s likely a better technical camera as it was newer. So yes to iso, megapixels , dynamic range maybe etc. I was just saying I don’t like the images at all from that camera. You are entitled to your view . You do say the only thing better about the 5d classics is the character of the images. That’s all that matters to me. Same reason I don’t like the brand new Sony cameras that I have rented. Amazing cameras. Just lack that character
I prefer the E6 look you get from the more limited range. I know I’ve posted this before, but process it in DXO and hit the high ISO with “deep prime” and you will be amazed
@@MartinCastein awesome. It’s really remarkable how much new life software can inject into older gear. I’ll shoot right up to 3200 with no worries anymore :). Keep up the good work buddy.
The answer is ENOUGH. For those who know how to use it properly. I love 5D classic, it has many "flaws" but for all of those flaws it has many upsides.
In my opinion, pictures with high dynamic range look unrealistic, like plasticky HDR images that were in so fashion years ago. The color, grain texture, sharpness all add to their special "classic" look!
Hello, I really enjoyed this video, just a side question, I haven't seen a video about the Canon 7D on your channel. Can you please explain what is the difference between 5d/6d/7d (mark1 each), wikipedia says that EOS 6D was made to fill the gap between 5d and 7d, but I don't quite understand what it means, honestly.
ive never used the 7d, the 7d has nothing to do with the 5d and 6d, the 7d is a crop sensor camera and meant for wildlife etc with a faster shots per second. the 5d is a more pro range of bodies and the 6d is more entry level, however its not as simple as that because certain cameras were released at different times. I have a video detailing this though if you look through my video list :)
@@MartinCastein ok, this finally makes sense now, thanks a lot! currently looking forward to getting a 6d mark1 as my first DSLR (I previously only used 35mm film cameras)
It depends on the look. you want, the 5d ii is a little more flexible. Id usually promote a balanced exposure with the 5dii though. If you cant get a balance you have to decide more based on how you want your final image to look, do you want a high key bright look or a low key darker look. thats what it boils down to. Mostly though try to balance your shot and get it all in one if you can.
It wasn’t called the mark 1 either, just the 5d but if you say that everyone asks which 5d. Most people refer to it as the classic now as a nickname so I use it too. Hope that helps 🙂
Is it common to combine files to get one picture with the correct exposure? Do they call that tech bracketing? I’m always trying to get the combined pic in one shot. 5d has impressive color and range for such an old camera. Looking at picking one up to improve how I shoot
I do it quite often because it suits my editing, i dont always do it though and i dont think its common. It really depends on the photo, i can do without it as well just depends. if i see that the histogram is really stretched ill shoot a bracketed exposure too. This technique is bracketing when shooting and exposure blending in post production.
I was using the 5D until 2014.Most of my favorite photos are shot with this camera, but unfortunately it is Dinosaur compared to my a7riii which is half the size. I still own the 5D and refuse selling it.The color science of this camera is fantastic. Specifically for portraits
I think you are right it excels for portraits, plus i like the sound of the shutter lol. It is a dinosaur but dinosaurs are cool too sometimes. I like using the 5d despite its limitations. Modern cameras for work though, they make life so much easier.
I used My old 5d mainly for landscapes. This technique was a game changer. The dynamic range of the eye and brain sensor still outperforms the dynamic range of modern sensors and often I still use this technique. The trick is to keep it natural looking. I used 3 brackets normal and +/- 1.5 stops. The 5d still can produce high quality images. The only limit was the auto focus and I love live view for composing the image. For its price the 5D has got to be the best bargain in secondhand equipment I wish I hadn't sold it.
You sold it im buying one.
Just keep them coming on the 5d Classic. Anything and everything as I only bought my 5d Classic, last month.
This makes me very happy! Real photography that I can understand the purpose of.. thanks Martin.
Thank you Don! hope you are well!
The dynamic range here reminds me of the 16 mp m4/3 sensor. That’s not a criticism. It’s perfectly acceptable if you pay attention to what you are doing. Dynamic range is a bit overhyped and too many people are deathly afraid of shadows in their photography. Shadows add depth to an image and shouldn’t be eliminated.
Thanks Carlo, I agree with you
16mp m4/3? olympus?
i'd say from both online tests and personal findings that the 16mp m43 sensors have about a stop advantage over the 5dc, which is still very good. Just goes to show that you don't need a ton of dynamic range for good photographs.
If the eye sees the shadows then the photo should have those shadows.
I love the shadows adding depth. 100% FACT.
Thank for continuing in making videos on the 5D. It's a great amazing camera that almost everyone has forgotten with mirrorless.
Considering how old it is, with the inherent risks of electronics or mirror failure, sensor dust, incompatible technology and so on I think this Canon has a big following.
Ok so I don't have the classic but I have a new to me 5D2 which man oh man I love and you are so right about the bracketing. That truly does bring out all the dynamic range even in the 5D2. I still love shooting on it and the only thing that I truly wish it had is a tilting screen it would make it so much easier to use out in the field shooting landscape photos. I would not shoot anything else in my opinion for the IQ alone it is just so good
Beautifully explained. Pleasure to watch. Love your videos.
Thanks so much thats appreciated!
A Great video showing clearly What the 5D Classic can achieve. This is One Underrated camera.
Thanks once again Dezmond!
Thanks for posting this video. I'm a huge fan of the 5d classic and found this to be very helpful in how to go about post processing difficult files. i'm curious, do you have any experience with the EOS 1ds mk1 (11.1 megapixel)? There is very little posted about this camera online and seems to be almost forgotten. I believe there is a certain magic in these early sensors where the designers were trying so hard to compete with film. I've recently purchased one and would love to see your thoughts on the camera.
Belting video Martin. This is exactly what 5Dc users need to be seeing. Its an exceptional old camera which needs to be understood to get the best out of it. It is possible for the jpegs to look great, however as this videos shows, a few mins on LR can make all the difference. Really look forward to your videos, thanks 👍👍
Thanks so much Steve!
Exactly what I was on about with my comment about exposing to the right.. mate you make this stuff easy to understand plus the use of Lightroom to edit is priceless… cheers!!
I remember John, thanks for your support!
Excellent and informative video that demonstrating the importance of knowledge of equipment and histograms, and the workarounds, as well as the decisions needed when using equipment in the field and for intended post processing. Especially nice to see the 5D Classic in this demonstration. Your millionth subscriber would be only days away were it not for a defective RUclips algorithm.
Good work! Best wishes!
You are so kind John, I wish I had a million subs hahaha maybe one day, in 50 years....
May I add that the Canon 5D’s 12megapixel full frame sensor has a massive pixel pitch of 9 microns, which makes its low light performance at base ISO100 quite exceptional for its age. When shooting in RAW, I set the camera to lowest contrast in monochrome with a custom white balance and no sharpening or noise reduction switched off. In this way I can rely upon the histogram to show me everything I need to know about the RAW file and it’s 11.1 stop dynamic range. In post, I can convert and adjust everything accordingly. To put things in perspective, I have an Olympus E-1 which has a dynamic range of only 7.7 stops - a very different kind of beast that is excellent in low contrast lighting, but otherwise hopeless in strong daylight - unless on the lookout for a Kodachrome aesthetic. The Canon 5D is a fantastic camera, I have two, and shall never part with them.
You make me wish I kept my 5d classic, I'm now debating selling my xt1 and lens to buy a 5d again and the 17-40 to go with my rp 24-105L
well it certainly feels like an old camera nowadays so you have to be prepared for that!
Well explained. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video Martin. I’m not a Canon shooter but I tend to buy older second hand gear (currently Nikon d750) and use HDR/bracketing quite a bit as I think Lightroom makes a great job of it. From experience though you just have to remember to not go crazy with the edits with all that dynamic range available
you are right Simon, i use the d600 and d800 too.
@@MartinCastein Yes I have found your videos on the d600 very useful 😀
Martin, thanks so much for reinvigorating my appreciation and interest for the 5D. I haven’t used it much but have held into it because I inherently knew it was good. Please keep showing us what the 5D can do. One question: does the in-camera histogram represent the tones in the file or those showing on the display? Thanks
the histogram represents the jpeg file based on the picture profile settings you set. This is true even if you are shooting raw only as the histogram reads only the jpeg. So if you shoot in monochrome and make the contrast maximum the histogram will show this even if it only records a raw file.
Is there a picture profile that bestrepresents the raw data, maybe natural?
Yes I use neutral with contrast set to minimum. Thats the largest dynamic range you can show in a jpeg on the 5d and so is closest to the raw file. I have a settings video for the 5d on my channel that might help.
@@MartinCastein thanks Martin, Working through your video archive as a new subscriber. Will look for the video. Great work, thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
I loved my 5D. I’m now a alpha 7 4 shooter
did you keep your 5d as well?
Thank you! Great video!
You are welcome!
Love this camera. if you get a shot right its a satisfying feeling. the mark 2 seems close in image quality.
I own the mkii, absolutely love that camera.
Mk ii is a wonderful camera i need to get one again.
Honestly as someone who has both cameras, I find the 5D classic in a league of its own. The skin tones, the dreamy magical 3d look. Only thing the mark 2 is better is that you can crop more because of more megapixels. The Color on the mark 2ndoesn’t seem anywhere near as good as the 5D classsic
@@Bigredfitnessmoshe only thing better is cropping? Do a video showing you using both cameras, as I don’t believe you have both. The only thing better about the classic is the colours in certain situations, even then it is down to personal preference. The 5D mkii is far sharper due to the higher megapixel count, with superior high iso performance, way better dynamic range… the only thing better about the 5D classic is the character of the images, nothing else looks like it. But to say the only thing 5D mkii does better is cropping is just a false statement.
@@ESKATEUK no need for any personal attacks. I have both cameras, and I just don’t like the mark 2 at all. Like you say, personal preferences. Maybe I wasn’t so clear. It’s likely a better technical camera as it was newer. So yes to iso, megapixels , dynamic range maybe etc. I was just saying I don’t like the images at all from that camera. You are entitled to your view . You do say the only thing better about the 5d classics is the character of the images. That’s all that matters to me. Same reason I don’t like the brand new Sony cameras that I have rented. Amazing cameras. Just lack that character
I prefer the E6 look you get from the more limited range. I know I’ve posted this before, but process it in DXO and hit the high ISO with “deep prime” and you will be amazed
Chris, I saw your comment before and ive now got hold of dxo pureraw and will try this out. Im listening buddy, im listening.
@@MartinCastein awesome. It’s really remarkable how much new life software can inject into older gear. I’ll shoot right up to 3200 with no worries anymore :). Keep up the good work buddy.
Next, Canon 5D classic vs Sony a7 pls
The answer is ENOUGH. For those who know how to use it properly. I love 5D classic, it has many "flaws" but for all of those flaws it has many upsides.
Great photo.
Thank you!
I thought I was ok with Lightroom, after seeing this, I failed badly, more practise required, thankyou for the grounding lesson
You didnt fail Paul!
In my opinion, pictures with high dynamic range look unrealistic, like plasticky HDR images that were in so fashion years ago. The color, grain texture, sharpness all add to their special "classic" look!
HDR images look fake AF.
Yup! HDR is so last century.. Funny is that Apple haven't realised that yet..
Hello, I really enjoyed this video, just a side question, I haven't seen a video about the Canon 7D on your channel. Can you please explain what is the difference between 5d/6d/7d (mark1 each), wikipedia says that EOS 6D was made to fill the gap between 5d and 7d, but I don't quite understand what it means, honestly.
ive never used the 7d, the 7d has nothing to do with the 5d and 6d, the 7d is a crop sensor camera and meant for wildlife etc with a faster shots per second. the 5d is a more pro range of bodies and the 6d is more entry level, however its not as simple as that because certain cameras were released at different times. I have a video detailing this though if you look through my video list :)
@@MartinCastein ok, this finally makes sense now, thanks a lot! currently looking forward to getting a 6d mark1 as my first DSLR (I previously only used 35mm film cameras)
That will be a good camera for you 🙂
Hi Martin, lovely image you have there, I have the 5D mk2, should I always expose for the shadows or highlights when shooting?.
It depends on the look. you want, the 5d ii is a little more flexible. Id usually promote a balanced exposure with the 5dii though. If you cant get a balance you have to decide more based on how you want your final image to look, do you want a high key bright look or a low key darker look. thats what it boils down to. Mostly though try to balance your shot and get it all in one if you can.
Thanks!
Thank you again!!!!
By Classic do you mean the 5D Mk1? It was never known as the Classic at the time. I guess this is a moniker added later.
It wasn’t called the mark 1 either, just the 5d but if you say that everyone asks which 5d. Most people refer to it as the classic now as a nickname so I use it too. Hope that helps 🙂
Hey , which lens would you recommend for the 5D to shoot fashion photography ?
24-70 mk1 or 2 if you need to save money the original 24-105 f4
I always use the Photo-Merge HDR when the dynamic range of a scene is high, even with my EOS R. The files come out very clean.
Is it common to combine files to get one picture with the correct exposure? Do they call that tech bracketing? I’m always trying to get the combined pic in one shot. 5d has impressive color and range for such an old camera. Looking at picking one up to improve how I shoot
I do it quite often because it suits my editing, i dont always do it though and i dont think its common. It really depends on the photo, i can do without it as well just depends. if i see that the histogram is really stretched ill shoot a bracketed exposure too. This technique is bracketing when shooting and exposure blending in post production.
And in conclusion….? It’s a very acceptable dynamic range.
Yep i agree!
Thanks!