Most hated trope is definitely SA that leads to the protagonist’s, usually female, character arc. “I was weak and now I’m tough and can protect myself” 🙄 It inadvertently places the blame of the SA on the victim suggesting had she been stronger this wouldn’t have happened…
Omg another Peeta lover! I loved him too. I don’t get why so many people were Team Gale. Peeta was just such a sweet and nice guy to Katniss and that’s what she deserved. His amnesia broke me too 😫
Constantly amazed at your ability to bring up Becky Chambers in pretty much every video, no matter what it is about! (btw thanks so much for introducing me to her, she's become one of my faves now)
The worst trope to me it's romance triangle, im so over it. However i was pleasantly surprised and actually enjoyed the one on "the infernal devices" by Cassandra Clare
Oh man, the list of tropes I hate is long 😅 1) enemies to lovers (friends to lovers can be irritating too, but I like this trope better) 2) the chosen one and not like other girls/guys (I feel like these two often go hand in hand) 3) love triangles 4) the dumb jock/ dumb blonde 5) school bullying 6) the fat friend who only gets together with another fat person 7) trophy wife 8) misguided dad 9) damsel in distress 10) alternatively, the complete opposite of damsel in distress where the main character is just the most badass person ever and never has feelings 11) genius who learns everything miraculously fast 12) supernatural beings who have a child that happens to be the powerful being on earth 13) ugly duckling to beauty (Can we normalize normal looking people please?) 14) saving the world 15) good vs evil (no one is 100% good or 100% evil) 16) unexplained resurrection!! I hate plot armor. If a writer wants to put their characters in danger but nothing ever happens, this is so incredibly boring and predictable and lazy. Readers/viewers are not going to take danger seriously.
oh man! its been so long since ive read one that I forgot all about the chosen one! especially when they need to save the planet, and they get distracted because the OBVIOUSLY EVIL prince glanced at them once, and now they're MADLY IN LOVE and get captured. lol
Omg What is left to read? 😂 Great list!! The genius who learns everything fast, or the physically awkward protagonist who trips on her own feet who suddenly becomes a bad ass fighter after two training sessions 🙄
The best "Reluctant to save the world/fight" series I've read was Prince of Fools. Jalan is one of my fave characters ever, cause he's hilarious. And also up till the end he never changed his attitude of "duck this"😆
You should try The Kaiju Preservation Society. It has similar humor to the martian, but I found the story fun and quirky! (I also don't like "funny" books, but loved those.)
Regarding the WoT and the chosen one trope: I think it works really well, because while it starts out very classicly, the way that it impacts and affects him, and the ways he reacts to this status are not what I would expect from a classic chosen one. He really goes on a 14-book arc were his feelings and actions regarding this chosen one status are shifting so much.
The open ending/lazy ending is my main problem with Stephen King. The man CAN write, he just can’t wrap things up. I read the whole Dark Tower series just for it to finish with “The man in black walked across the desert and the gunslinger followed” 🤦♂️
Thank you! I love Stephen king books but the endings 😠 I couldn’t bring myself to invest time into this series knowing the ending would probably be vague.
😍 I love that you love Peetah! Katniss so did not deserve him! Mitch was absolutely right about that! I also was heartbroken by that trope in that series. This was just the best part about the Hunger games. ❤️
Honestly, I hate most tropes just because they’re predictable and overdone. But, like you said, if it’s done right, then it’s totally worth it. I really like when writers play the reader/viewer with a trope and then switch it up to make it hilarious. Like in K-dramas where the female lead trips, and then the male lead catches her (c’mon, can anyone name a K-drama where that _hasn’t_ happened? 😂). But I’ve seen a few K-dramas that switched it up where the male lead either won’t catch her, or will catch her and then drop her because he’s nervous or something. Tricks the viewer and makes it hilarious
@@BookswithEmilyFox Tomorrow touches on a whole lot of sensitive subjects that you don’t even see in a lot of Western media. I really liked it. And Red Sleeve! I don’t want to spoil Red Sleeve but it is SO GOOD. It is somewhat based on real events that the author expanded upon, so if you don’t want spoilers, don’t read up about the real events (I made this mistake 😳) Red Sleeve absolutely broke me. And Doom at Your Service, but you’ve already seen that one 🤗 all three of these are incredibly emotional and heartfelt
Not sure it's a trope or not but I absolutely hate it when the mc is being told how good/kind/special they are. I don't care whether it's shown as such or not but if every character in the book keeps saying stuff like this I'll literally notice nothing else (looking at you House in the Cerulean Sea)
Omg I love the concept of this video! I can't remember if you've read Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier, but if you did, what did you think of the ending? Because I felt a bit disappointed, but it actually changed when I reread the first two chapters. I've watched the most recent adaptation, and though most choices they made really annoyed as it didn't make sense in many ways, their choice of ending was just perfect in my opinion, and I would have loved it if it was in the actual book. I wonder if the humor in The Martian would work for me as I've heard mixed reviews. The main critique was that the main character was way too optimistic in the situation he was in, to the point that it felt like if there was no balance. Also, I agree about Peeta, you now make me want to reread these books just for him. 🥴 And the trope you mentioned reminded me of 1984 by George Orwell. Have you read it? It worked for me both times as it was actually *HUGE SPOILER* brainwashing by the government, and so very dystopian in nature.
I hate the The One trope because it just annoys me like I get it you’re the main character but I also want them to be unspecial (?). And i absolutely detest the virgin maiden trope; when the femme mc is always a virgin and pure but the masc mc is NOT but that doesn’t seem to matter as much as their counterpart being a virgin, especially when they’re like “I’ll make you MINE and ONLY MINE” YUCK
I started reading Becky Chambers because of you and I absolutely LOVE her work. I'm trying to collect everything she's written now. I agree, I don't like that trope, but she did it so well. That novel is stunning.
I'm not even sure if there is a topic or trope that makes me not want to read a book but generally I don't really read YA and contemporary but that's probably more because of the style of writing and that I don't want to read about things that could happen to me, too :D
I've read Shadow and Bone trilogy a long time ago, but as I remember it, not using her powers made Alina look sick rather than ugly. You know like when you've been ill for a long time - you look pale, have dark circles under eyes, acne, dull hair - stuff like that. So for grishas, using their powers make them look healthy. Not like they start to look like a completely different beautiful person.
To Be Taught If Fortunate was my first Becky Chambers book .. and i did not enjoy it. Maybe I prefer fast paced, plot driven books, and this is the exact opposite. But then i read Psalm for the Wild Built and LOVED IT. Not sure which Becky Chambers book to read next. Any recommendations?!
@@BookswithEmilyFox lol my bff always has a fit I skip them... but then I read one he recommended and it RUINED the whole book for me!! lol! I cant be trapped by the claustrophobic confines of an authors mind! lol 🤣🤣🤣
I don't know if this is a trope but in YA, whenever a boy comes along and they are immediately objectified by the female protagonist as being handsome with chiseled chin, abs for days, tanned skin. And heeeere is our love interest lovely. Also, love triangles. Especialle when you just know who is going to be endgame anyway. Abusive parents ....
I hate: Aliens visiting our earth, friendly or not friendly ghosts doing spooky things, open endings as you do, alcoholism (most of the time it's handled wrongly), fat person who gets attention "all of a sudden", the "let's take her glasses off she'll be beautiful", twns having supernatural powers (I have a family with a lot of twins and nothing is supernatural in their connection), the soulmate trope too.
I hate insta love, miscommunication, a narcissistic character who redeems himself (they never do in real life), dark academia tropes, boarding school, unreliable narrators, gratuitous profanity, violence or sex, twins trading places, undercover cops (especially in drug busts), cliffhangers.
Oh god, I don't remember The Red Sparrow having any romantic parts in the book....maybe I was so traumatized by some points in the story I totally forgot about it😅😅😅
A few tropes or themes I don’t care for are: amnesia, haunted houses, things that seems real but then turn paranoia, friends to lover, dumb acting female characters
Tropes I hate are unreliable narrator if it’s drugs or alchohol. I could see myself loving it if it was something actually interesting. I agree with you with my hatred of miscommunication. Also hate it when the two characters fall in love. Say it to each other. And then for absolutely no reason both go insane with insecurity about their relationship. Like. What?! Everything’s totally fine. Why you trippin?! Just being dramatic to ruin a good thing. Ugh. I’m looking at……. *spoiler* *spoiler* *spoiler* A place you go on vacation involving sand and sun and water / what you do with a book That should cover it for any accidental glancers, but also be easy enuf to decode 😜
I think the reason Peeta's suddenly revealed change towards Katniss works so well in the Hunger Games series is that it leaves it up to the reader to imagine what level of torture/brainwashing was necessary to effect such a drastic change. Also, I initially wasn't crazy about the open ending of To Be Taught If Fortunate after loving the rest of the novella, but I'll admit that story has definitely stuck with me.
I actually didn't mind Dead Silence having a romance. And usually I hate most couples in any book. Don't know why, but this time it was ok with me. Not that I enjoyed it or actually shipped them, but still.
Dead silence: she also wanted to reeeeaaaaally make sure you knew she was traumatized by constantly talking about to vast emptiness of space. And then her unecessary romance would notice because he always saw thru her bs…. Just repeat that for like 175 pages and then sprinkle in like 5 pages of actual important stuff before you get to when the book gets “okay”. Lol
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The Martian is without doubt the most boring book of nothing i've ever tried to stomach...binned it so no one else would ever waste time on it
Most hated trope is definitely SA that leads to the protagonist’s, usually female, character arc.
“I was weak and now I’m tough and can protect myself” 🙄
It inadvertently places the blame of the SA on the victim suggesting had she been stronger this wouldn’t have happened…
Omg another Peeta lover! I loved him too. I don’t get why so many people were Team Gale. Peeta was just such a sweet and nice guy to Katniss and that’s what she deserved. His amnesia broke me too 😫
Gale was 🤢
Team Peeta!
me and my hubby will STILL refer to someone super sweet as "the boy with the bread"
Also Gale was a war criminal 😷
Team Peeta ✨✨
Constantly amazed at your ability to bring up Becky Chambers in pretty much every video, no matter what it is about! (btw thanks so much for introducing me to her, she's become one of my faves now)
The worst trope to me it's romance triangle, im so over it. However i was pleasantly surprised and actually enjoyed the one on "the infernal devices" by Cassandra Clare
Omg I can’t explain my hatred for the miscommunication trope!! usually ends up making me so frustrated 😂
I think the ending in “to be taught if fortunate” works because in a way it’s also asking/involving the reader.
Hate trope for me: The resurrection trope. For me it feels like I´ve been emotionally tricked and I totally loose my trust in the story.
Ok Milanote actually sounds really cool. I’m also a very visual person!
The Sparrow rocked my world. I read it on your recommendation and I can’t thank you enough. Probably my best read of the year!
i recently learned that i really hate the: "the painting looks exactly like her" - trope. It's not that common (i think) but oh boy
I feel you on the amnesia… but yes worked so well in HG!
Oh man, the list of tropes I hate is long 😅
1) enemies to lovers (friends to lovers can be irritating too, but I like this trope better)
2) the chosen one and not like other girls/guys (I feel like these two often go hand in hand)
3) love triangles
4) the dumb jock/ dumb blonde
5) school bullying
6) the fat friend who only gets together with another fat person
7) trophy wife
8) misguided dad
9) damsel in distress
10) alternatively, the complete opposite of damsel in distress where the main character is just the most badass person ever and never has feelings
11) genius who learns everything miraculously fast
12) supernatural beings who have a child that happens to be the powerful being on earth
13) ugly duckling to beauty (Can we normalize normal looking people please?)
14) saving the world
15) good vs evil (no one is 100% good or 100% evil)
16) unexplained resurrection!! I hate plot armor. If a writer wants to put their characters in danger but nothing ever happens, this is so incredibly boring and predictable and lazy. Readers/viewers are not going to take danger seriously.
oh man! its been so long since ive read one that I forgot all about the chosen one! especially when they need to save the planet, and they get distracted because the OBVIOUSLY EVIL prince glanced at them once, and now they're MADLY IN LOVE and get captured. lol
Omg What is left to read? 😂
Great list!!
The genius who learns everything fast, or the physically awkward protagonist who trips on her own feet who suddenly becomes a bad ass fighter after two training sessions 🙄
The best "Reluctant to save the world/fight" series I've read was Prince of Fools. Jalan is one of my fave characters ever, cause he's hilarious. And also up till the end he never changed his attitude of "duck this"😆
You should try The Kaiju Preservation Society. It has similar humor to the martian, but I found the story fun and quirky! (I also don't like "funny" books, but loved those.)
I've been meaning to read some John Scalzi!
Regarding the WoT and the chosen one trope:
I think it works really well, because while it starts out very classicly, the way that it impacts and affects him, and the ways he reacts to this status are not what I would expect from a classic chosen one. He really goes on a 14-book arc were his feelings and actions regarding this chosen one status are shifting so much.
THE OTHER DUDE CAN CHOKE 🤣🤣🤣 but you’re right. Peeta is the best.
The open ending/lazy ending is my main problem with Stephen King. The man CAN write, he just can’t wrap things up.
I read the whole Dark Tower series just for it to finish with “The man in black walked across the desert and the gunslinger followed” 🤦♂️
Thank you! I love Stephen king books but the endings 😠
I couldn’t bring myself to invest time into this series knowing the ending would probably be vague.
Loved the Sparrow!!!
😍 I love that you love Peetah! Katniss so did not deserve him! Mitch was absolutely right about that!
I also was heartbroken by that trope in that series.
This was just the best part about the Hunger games. ❤️
LOVE LOVE LOVE this idea of great tropes with subpar tropes
I love open ended books. It leaves it to the reader's imagination. Great list M!
I loved the humour in The Martian. It was the best thing about the book, imo!
Loved the sneak peak we got for the next videos 😍
The "not like other girl" trope in Iron Widow (YA SF) was very well done and modern, I really recommand !
What are some Book Tropes you don't like?
Twin surprises - in mysteries, when there is a surprise twin with no foreshadowing, that is the bad guy. I can't stand it 😅
Omg I don’t think ive ever encountered this but I would hate it!!
fake deaths / resurrection
Love at first sight. So booooring.
Honestly, I hate most tropes just because they’re predictable and overdone. But, like you said, if it’s done right, then it’s totally worth it. I really like when writers play the reader/viewer with a trope and then switch it up to make it hilarious. Like in K-dramas where the female lead trips, and then the male lead catches her (c’mon, can anyone name a K-drama where that _hasn’t_ happened? 😂). But I’ve seen a few K-dramas that switched it up where the male lead either won’t catch her, or will catch her and then drop her because he’s nervous or something. Tricks the viewer and makes it hilarious
Amy kdrama recommendations? 👀
@@BookswithEmilyFox Tomorrow touches on a whole lot of sensitive subjects that you don’t even see in a lot of Western media. I really liked it. And Red Sleeve! I don’t want to spoil Red Sleeve but it is SO GOOD. It is somewhat based on real events that the author expanded upon, so if you don’t want spoilers, don’t read up about the real events (I made this mistake 😳) Red Sleeve absolutely broke me. And Doom at Your Service, but you’ve already seen that one 🤗 all three of these are incredibly emotional and heartfelt
In addition to some you mentioned, pregnancy trope annoys me so much!!
Not sure it's a trope or not but I absolutely hate it when the mc is being told how good/kind/special they are. I don't care whether it's shown as such or not but if every character in the book keeps saying stuff like this I'll literally notice nothing else (looking at you House in the Cerulean Sea)
Omg I love the concept of this video! I can't remember if you've read Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier, but if you did, what did you think of the ending? Because I felt a bit disappointed, but it actually changed when I reread the first two chapters. I've watched the most recent adaptation, and though most choices they made really annoyed as it didn't make sense in many ways, their choice of ending was just perfect in my opinion, and I would have loved it if it was in the actual book.
I wonder if the humor in The Martian would work for me as I've heard mixed reviews. The main critique was that the main character was way too optimistic in the situation he was in, to the point that it felt like if there was no balance.
Also, I agree about Peeta, you now make me want to reread these books just for him. 🥴 And the trope you mentioned reminded me of 1984 by George Orwell. Have you read it? It worked for me both times as it was actually
*HUGE SPOILER*
brainwashing by the government, and so very dystopian in nature.
Great video!
I hate the The One trope because it just annoys me like I get it you’re the main character but I also want them to be unspecial (?). And i absolutely detest the virgin maiden trope; when the femme mc is always a virgin and pure but the masc mc is NOT but that doesn’t seem to matter as much as their counterpart being a virgin, especially when they’re like “I’ll make you MINE and ONLY MINE” YUCK
Definitely interested in Skyward now! What a stunning cover too 💜
The UK editions are so pretty!
I apologize if you’ve already answered this here, but omg what is your lip color? It’s stunning!
I started reading Becky Chambers because of you and I absolutely LOVE her work. I'm trying to collect everything she's written now. I agree, I don't like that trope, but she did it so well. That novel is stunning.
Yay! I’m glad more and more people are reading her books. I can’t wait to see what she comes up with next!
the Sparrow killed me a little
I'm not even sure if there is a topic or trope that makes me not want to read a book but generally I don't really read YA and contemporary but that's probably more because of the style of writing and that I don't want to read about things that could happen to me, too :D
I've read Shadow and Bone trilogy a long time ago, but as I remember it, not using her powers made Alina look sick rather than ugly. You know like when you've been ill for a long time - you look pale, have dark circles under eyes, acne, dull hair - stuff like that. So for grishas, using their powers make them look healthy. Not like they start to look like a completely different beautiful person.
Yes you are right! But she did mention alot that she was ugly or not as pretty as Zoya or Genya etc...
Oh yes, I'm Roman Catholic and I even ship Mendes and Emilio.
Did you see The Kind Worth Killing is getting a sort of a sequel? I know you said you wouldn't read anything more by the author.. 😬
To Be Taught If Fortunate was my first Becky Chambers book .. and i did not enjoy it. Maybe I prefer fast paced, plot driven books, and this is the exact opposite. But then i read Psalm for the Wild Built and LOVED IT. Not sure which Becky Chambers book to read next. Any recommendations?!
Definitely pick up book 2!
Omg I looooove a vague open ending! I will often skip an epilogue because I’m terrified they’ll close off my open ending goodness! Lol
You're a monster hahaha
I can't imagine skipping the epilogue (although they often suck!)
@@BookswithEmilyFox lol my bff always has a fit I skip them... but then I read one he recommended and it RUINED the whole book for me!! lol! I cant be trapped by the claustrophobic confines of an authors mind! lol 🤣🤣🤣
I don't know if this is a trope but in YA, whenever a boy comes along and they are immediately objectified by the female protagonist as being handsome with chiseled chin, abs for days, tanned skin. And heeeere is our love interest lovely.
Also, love triangles. Especialle when you just know who is going to be endgame anyway.
Abusive parents
....
"The other dude... can choke" 😂😂
Slightly harsh but... lol
"Vibes: Pride and Prejudice" deserves more recognition than it gets
Hi
I hate: Aliens visiting our earth, friendly or not friendly ghosts doing spooky things, open endings as you do, alcoholism (most of the time it's handled wrongly), fat person who gets attention "all of a sudden", the "let's take her glasses off she'll be beautiful", twns having supernatural powers (I have a family with a lot of twins and nothing is supernatural in their connection), the soulmate trope too.
Couldn't agree more with the open-ended trope. I hate it but I too loved the open ended Becky Chambers book!
I hate insta love, miscommunication, a narcissistic character who redeems himself (they never do in real life), dark academia tropes, boarding school, unreliable narrators, gratuitous profanity, violence or sex, twins trading places, undercover cops (especially in drug busts), cliffhangers.
Oh god, I don't remember The Red Sparrow having any romantic parts in the book....maybe I was so traumatized by some points in the story I totally forgot about it😅😅😅
@Juli-Yashka May I ask are you talking about "Red Sparrow" or "The Sparrow" that could apply to both? lol
I do not like enemies to lovers.
Have you tried Emily Henry? She's making me like romance so Book Lovers or Beach Read might be worth a shot for enemies to lovers!
When are you going to do the next Q&A?
A few tropes or themes I don’t care for are: amnesia, haunted houses, things that seems real but then turn paranoia, friends to lover, dumb acting female characters
I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to find an exception to dumb female character haha
Tropes I hate are unreliable narrator if it’s drugs or alchohol. I could see myself loving it if it was something actually interesting. I agree with you with my hatred of miscommunication. Also hate it when the two characters fall in love. Say it to each other. And then for absolutely no reason both go insane with insecurity about their relationship. Like. What?! Everything’s totally fine. Why you trippin?! Just being dramatic to ruin a good thing. Ugh. I’m looking at…….
*spoiler*
*spoiler*
*spoiler*
A place you go on vacation involving sand and sun and water / what you do with a book
That should cover it for any accidental glancers, but also be easy enuf to decode 😜
Hated trope: Age gap in romance 🤮
I think the reason Peeta's suddenly revealed change towards Katniss works so well in the Hunger Games series is that it leaves it up to the reader to imagine what level of torture/brainwashing was necessary to effect such a drastic change. Also, I initially wasn't crazy about the open ending of To Be Taught If Fortunate after loving the rest of the novella, but I'll admit that story has definitely stuck with me.
I actually didn't mind Dead Silence having a romance. And usually I hate most couples in any book. Don't know why, but this time it was ok with me. Not that I enjoyed it or actually shipped them, but still.
I hate the unreliable narrator trope.. it’s been so overdone!!
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Dead silence: she also wanted to reeeeaaaaally make sure you knew she was traumatized by constantly talking about to vast emptiness of space. And then her unecessary romance would notice because he always saw thru her bs…. Just repeat that for like 175 pages and then sprinkle in like 5 pages of actual important stuff before you get to when the book gets “okay”. Lol
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I think the “chosen one” trope is overused, especially in YA. It is one of the tropes that i’m starting to hate
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