I like seeing RAID0 HDDs, reminds me of trying to speed up my PC before we could just get an SSD. Given the relatively fast and large RAID array being there for installers, etc I'd have short-stroked the 320GB boot drive to 60-120GB for maximum performance. For those who don't know what short-stroking a HDD is: You only partition a small portion of its total capacity, which limits how far the read/write heads have to physically move when seeking data helping latency a little.
2:00 Ripping apart Sky (or Virgin Media) TV boxes is a great way of getting a cheap hard drive :). also 28:42 the discussion of having a single SSD as your data storage - if having an SSD, have a HDD as well for data, even a cheapy 500GB from a Sky or Virgin Media TV box.
@@XxZadexX The 2TB Sky+HD boxes are actually quite sought after, but if you can find one at the right price, it's worth taking apart to get the hard drive. You don't even need to buy a SATA cable since the Sky boxes come with a SATA cable (which you can repurpose), and the power connector will come from your PSU. I've taken apart various Sky+HD boxes (for 500GB/1TB/2TB HDDs), various Virgin TiVo boxes (for 500GB/1TB HDDs) and various Virgin V6 boxes (for 1TB 2.5 laptop HDDs). The latter come in exceptionally handy for upgrading a laptop's HDD (and I do think that a 1TB HDD is better than a 120GB or 250GB SSD) or making external hard drives (for backup purposes).
its actually really productive to get those boxes if you need HDD's. I have been buying them for £1 last year on various boot sales and they do come in handy
Personally I've used FX for great performance with a 780Ti. Being clever with monitor choice gets me Ultra settings on even intensive games. I do agree with everything said in the video though. Unless you can get it for free like I can, FX is not worth what people are asking for it.
Can confirm about the X58 being common in Australia! I have an LGA 1156 spare parts PC (i5 750 represent!) lying around with a 770 for a retro PC! I always find them poking about in Oz.
A lot depends on what you actually want to do with your PC. Under this pretext, let me state the following: I've built my first PC in 2018. As I am a student, my budget was basically non- existent, the primary goal being to get some kind of upgrade from the Athlon II X2 and 512MB ATi Radeon I was using at the time.I ended up, in the midst of the first crypto- price explosion concerning parts, getting an FX 6350 + stock cooler bundled with a Cooler Master case, Gigabyte 970 ATX MoBo, beQuiet 350W PSU and DVD- RW drive for 70€. I added 8GB auf DDR 3 (50€), a used 600GB VelociRaptor (25€) and an HD 6770 1GB (20€). Since then, I have upgraded to a Cooler Master tower cooler (20€) for the processor and I (believe it or not) found an MSi 1060 6GB and another 8 GB of DDR 3 at the junk yard. I also dropped in a Sharkoon 550w PSU (30€) and a generic 240 GB SATA SSD at some point. I may add that neither am I much of a high- end gamer, needing to run the cutting edge titles immediately after release, nor do I use a modern display (50" LG plasma (60Hz only at 720p)), but for my purposes the PC has never once disappointed me. Boot- up is now instant, wasn't much slower with that VelociRaptor. Desktop is quick- reacting and the games I did play (MC, Forza 6, the Long Dark, Borderlands 2, Railway Empire, heavily modded Morrowind) have been a blast!
need to do dumpster diving pcs, bring home literally all the pcs you can find and all available parts (that have even a remote chance of working) Show, Test, repair them!
I got extremely lucky with my x58 setup, I managed to get an i7 920, p6t se and 6gb of ram for 20 quid off a local seller, got a xeon x5675 for 20 quid, and got 6 4gb ddr3 sticks for a fiver a piece, pretty happy with the prices and the performance :)
@@2048Megabytes. very nice, i actually got given another x58 board in the past couple of months to play around with, honestly the p6x58de is an upgrade for sure lol
The funny thing is the fx 6300 was a great performing cpu to me because I never had the experience of using an intel cpu on a PC newer than a core 2 quad and was a decent upgrade from a amd phenom 9650 I lived with for 4 years. And for much of the time I had daily driven it it was overclocked to 4.2ghz on all cores. Sure in the most demanding games I ran on it, it showed its weakness, but I was able to live with it fine for 2 years (from 2018 to 2020) having not experienced what a new generation intel cpu feels like to use. Also me having a boot ssd on that PC helped and I wasen't playing alot of demanding games on it and I also made my first youtube videos on that PC which wasn't as bad as you'd think. Tho in 2020 I finally got to upgrade to a ryzen 5 2600 and finally could experience a much more capable cpu. But I still don't look back on the fx with as much hatred as most people do as it was my first DIY pc build and my first time getting to really tinker around with a PC. The fx cpu was given to me by a friend of mine so I couldn't complain, also same with the ryzen 5 2600.
RMD Tech, you need to build an FX system. I'm not joking, you need to for the retrospective, and it will make some interesting content too. I truly believe that it is necessary to truly appreciate just what a *Gigantic* leap forward Ryzen was, and how far behind the game AMD was against the ringbus Intel offerings.
Are you dissing my 2007-era cases? That was the best era! /s (But I do actually quite like that era, The Antec P180 series was great and the 1200 was also pretty cool)
While I can agree that FX is terrible, but the 6 and 8 thread FX cpu's are far more capable than you give them credit for. The 6 thread can handle up to a 1050ti in modern games, but some cames will have issues with single core for sure, the 8 thread can handle an RX 570 no problems, and a 580 wouldn't be a stretch
still sitting here with an FX 8320 Black Edition that got handed down to me when relatives upgraded their motherboards to get ryzen had the cpu for a couple years now, never realised how bad the FX series had been, guess the fact that I only ever experienced the high end has a lot of to do with that
Imagine Linus entering. So we just happend to have a Radeon 6900XT just sitting around, a Ryzen 9 5950XT, a 1200w psu, 128gb of ram, the best motherboard on the market right now, X4 8TB SSD NVME M.2's, and a $1200 case. Linus: Seems fair.
I hava a X58 Board that actually needs a Fan pointed at it or it will not work. Not the VRM is the problem but the Chipset. It gets to a billion degrees even with a big ass cooler on it if I don't point a fan at it.
i am a firm supporter of the FX series (mostly for nostalgia reasons) but they usually overclock very nicely and i am using a 6300 right now, while i can see its definetly holding my pc back slightly its doing well enough that i dont want to replace it until it becomes a hard limit at some point.
You know why “Tech Tested” Cut his Case in half don’t you? Well if his cooling does start leaking again then at least it won’t fill the Case with water! 😂
Is it silly that I actually wactively *want* an FX machine *because* it's terrible? Not to use of course but as retro machine and piece of history? Terrible is interesting.
I dunno. The Core Duo (not Core 2 Duo), Core 2 Solo, classic N Atoms, as well as Duron and Sempron (as well as Turion for laptops). Those are interesting. FX is not interesting. It's just shit.
Budget build covers that era of operating systems that are very nostalgic to my heart , post dos but pre modern operating systems like 2000 and windows xp etc are my all time favorite types of operating systems , i remember when i was in my early 20s using these operating systems as i finally was introduced to my very own pc .
Cyberpunk 2077? That's a bit of a PC melter at the moment, from what I've seen, and I'd be hoping that optimizations can be made to get it working on lower end hardware. From what I've seen, even my 1050Ti in my gaming laptop, or the 960 (2GB) in my tower PC, would struggle to get an acceptable frame rate in Cyberpunk 2077. The tower PC also has an i5-4460, which is fine for my requirements, but not for Cyberpunk...
Wow, those vids were painful. Sorry, but the builds were horrid from an aesthetic standpoint. I actually enjoy your builds as the builds are more polished in terms of wire management etc.
The fx 6300 came out in 2012, the i3 6100 came out in late 2015... ...whats with all the fx hate? Y'all need to compare it to a processor three years newer just to dog on it? Fx for the money is still fine when paired with the right graphics card at the right resolution and detail settings. I've got an FX 6300 on a Gigabyte GA970 udp3 (2x8)16Gb Kingston hyper x 1866 mhz, 1tb team ssd and an r9 290 all old gear that still hits decent frames at 1080p low detail.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Well I still respectfully disagree to a point. Yeah starting a "new" fx build is pointless on that you're 100% correct. For those who still have fx systems and haven't already replaced their cpu platform there's still a little relevance left in the FX platform. If someone is still using a traditional hard drive, low on ram or has a low end FX cpu their system can still be upgraded for very little cost, maybe even as little as 25$ on an ssd drive can give something someone was going to toss a bit more use. Upgrading the boot drive is about the best potential upgrade someone can do to squeeze more life out of their old FX hardware. Getting more or faster ram is less effective of an upgrade because you cant bring it forward into a new system, and on cpu you're right that it's a dead end because you cant bring that forward into a new system either. Personally I'd only upgrade a low end cpu if I were also looking to expand ram too, a cpu mobo ram combo could be found online fairly cheap. One more point of relevance to the fx series, overclocking, for anyone looking to get into overclocking it might be of some value to practice on an fx series setup you wont cry about if you fry it. The real limitation to gamers is graphics cards being ridiculously expensive so there's no point in even trying to get a decent graphics card at a reasonable price right now. Pretty much the only way to get a decent graphics card without getting completely ripped off is to buy a prebuilt and upgrade that.
Hey Budget builds i love your content and if you have the timr could you please upload more consistently like 1 time a week, and do some laptop content. Big fan, love the videos.
1155 you can work your way upto the i7 3770 and 3770K as I say, with the X58 system you can work yourr way upto an overclockable 6 Core Xeon or i7. They're all outdated, but I have used FX, even at its best it is still nowhere as good as people think untill you try a different system.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial I guess I should have specified that almost any other CPU can be better than any Bulldozer based chip, but IMHO you weren't painting a full picture when phrasing it in the script: both are equally dead platforms, yet 1155 is still usable, whilst the FXs are crap all around. Not accusing you of being biased or anything of the sort, just seemed a little bit off, knowing the way you usually go about your business, that's all. Keep up the good work though!
Definitely was more down to me trying to keep it breif, as we do touch on it fully in the main discussion later on in the video, where we give FX a few more pointers for what it can actually be good at.
This was a great video, thank you! Really enjoyed the entire series, including watching the contestants' entries, what they had to offer, and what they were judged on. My thoughts: I agree with exactly what is stated in the video, regarding the winner, and the reasoning for why they won. (SPOILER ALERT: clicking "read more" or scrolling to the rest of this comment will give spoilers - only proceed if you're happy/watched the video already.) PC Flippin: 3rd generation i5 gives good performance, whilst also having an upgrade path to an i7. 16GB RAM is a good amount to have, and whilst upgrading it further might (or might not) be possible (albeit expensive - at least there are 4x RAM slots), having enough RAM is worthwhile. Graphics card is decent and I like the idea of salvaging HDDs from satellite or cable TV boxes (I do this myself when they are cheap enough). Only thing I'd have done is used a boot SSD instead of the 320GB laptop hard drive (and possibly added a Wi-Fi module). And yes, I do have some K'Nex from when I was younger. :) Tech Tested: It has the most amount of RAM, which is good - and whilst I doubt you'll be able to easily upgrade from 24GB (some X58 boards may allow for 48GB RAM, but I'm not sure if this one will), there is plenty of RAM for anything you need to do. The CPU is OK but it's only a 1st gen i7; Intel's Core i series has come a long way since then. There's also not much upgradability from there (except maybe a better i7, or a Xeon). GPU is good but the bottleneck for me is the SSD. 240GB is fine for the OS and programs (so OK as an office PC), but for gaming/video editing/storing documents etc, you need more. My photos, videos and music will not fit on a 240GB SSD, which is why my main laptop still uses a 2TB mechanical disk. I'd also rather use conventional air cooling (and have plenty of it), rather than a haphazard water cooling system that is both more complex, and prone to failure/damaging components; remember, water and electricity don't mix well... Skyway: Like the idea of having 2x GPUs - it means you can use one for gaming and one for workstation tasks, or one for gaming and one for video encoding/decoding etc. I'd personally use the 2nd GPU as the rendering device for Streamlabs (or other streaming software) for livestreaming on Twitch, or for recording gameplay/other videos on. Alternatively, it's a way of driving multiple monitors. I also like the idea of multiple secondary HDDs for data storage; with some games being very large (GTA 5's download is over 100GB!), you need a secondary drive, and whilst an SSD is preferable, mechanical disks are much cheaper and will do the job perfectly. I also like the addition of a Wi-Fi module (whether it works or not, remains to be seen - it needs some antennas for a start!). For me though, 8GB RAM isn't enough (some RAM sticks were faulty and replaced), so that would have to be upgraded (my main laptop, gaming laptop and tower PC all came to me with 8GB, and all were upgraded to at least 16GB), and the FX series of CPUs wouldn't be my preferred choice either. You could upgrade to a better FX (you could even get an FX 9590 if you had the right PSU, cooling and motherboard) but for me, there's better choices - such as the 3rd Generation Core i platform used by PC Flippin, or the 4th generation Core i that my tower PC uses. If staying with AMD, I'd choose Ryzen over FX. Ultimately, the most balanced system, as well as the system I'd be happiest using, is the one from PC Flippin, due to the good combination of CPU, RAM, GPU, storage, and possible upgrades.
edit: It seems like Tech Tested's motherboard has 6x RAM slots, and they used 3 of them! So assuming that the motherboard, CPU and BIOS allowed it, you could theoretically upgrade to 48GB RAM, though whether that is possible or not, is another matter.
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That's actually so cute yet nerdy and clever
I like seeing RAID0 HDDs, reminds me of trying to speed up my PC before we could just get an SSD. Given the relatively fast and large RAID array being there for installers, etc I'd have short-stroked the 320GB boot drive to 60-120GB for maximum performance.
For those who don't know what short-stroking a HDD is: You only partition a small portion of its total capacity, which limits how far the read/write heads have to physically move when seeking data helping latency a little.
2:00 Ripping apart Sky (or Virgin Media) TV boxes is a great way of getting a cheap hard drive :).
also 28:42 the discussion of having a single SSD as your data storage - if having an SSD, have a HDD as well for data, even a cheapy 500GB from a Sky or Virgin Media TV box.
exactly! I took apart an old skybox that I got for free from a relative and I got a 2tb hdd, pretty decent!
@@XxZadexX The 2TB Sky+HD boxes are actually quite sought after, but if you can find one at the right price, it's worth taking apart to get the hard drive. You don't even need to buy a SATA cable since the Sky boxes come with a SATA cable (which you can repurpose), and the power connector will come from your PSU.
I've taken apart various Sky+HD boxes (for 500GB/1TB/2TB HDDs), various Virgin TiVo boxes (for 500GB/1TB HDDs) and various Virgin V6 boxes (for 1TB 2.5 laptop HDDs). The latter come in exceptionally handy for upgrading a laptop's HDD (and I do think that a 1TB HDD is better than a 120GB or 250GB SSD) or making external hard drives (for backup purposes).
its actually really productive to get those boxes if you need HDD's. I have been buying them for £1 last year on various boot sales and they do come in handy
The best thing that happened during the pandemic was me discovering this channel
He is god damn interesting indeed
Same
Me too
Same
PC Flippin' was such a great one
pc flippin coming through with the truly budget setup!
Personally I've used FX for great performance with a 780Ti. Being clever with monitor choice gets me Ultra settings on even intensive games. I do agree with everything said in the video though. Unless you can get it for free like I can, FX is not worth what people are asking for it.
Enjoyed the video but couldn't stop thinking about the Simcity music in the background.
SimCity 3000 to be exact!
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The water-cooled one was my favorite
Can confirm about the X58 being common in Australia! I have an LGA 1156 spare parts PC (i5 750 represent!) lying around with a 770 for a retro PC! I always find them poking about in Oz.
I've only ever seen one LGA 1156 board my entire life here in New Zealand. Everything seems to be 1155.
A lot depends on what you actually want to do with your PC. Under this pretext, let me state the following: I've built my first PC in 2018. As I am a student, my budget was basically non- existent, the primary goal being to get some kind of upgrade from the Athlon II X2 and 512MB ATi Radeon I was using at the time.I ended up, in the midst of the first crypto- price explosion concerning parts, getting an FX 6350 + stock cooler bundled with a Cooler Master case, Gigabyte 970 ATX MoBo, beQuiet 350W PSU and DVD- RW drive for 70€. I added 8GB auf DDR 3 (50€), a used 600GB VelociRaptor (25€) and an HD 6770 1GB (20€).
Since then, I have upgraded to a Cooler Master tower cooler (20€) for the processor and I (believe it or not) found an MSi 1060 6GB and another 8 GB of DDR 3 at the junk yard. I also dropped in a Sharkoon 550w PSU (30€) and a generic 240 GB SATA SSD at some point.
I may add that neither am I much of a high- end gamer, needing to run the cutting edge titles immediately after release, nor do I use a modern display (50" LG plasma (60Hz only at 720p)), but for my purposes the PC has never once disappointed me. Boot- up is now instant, wasn't much slower with that VelociRaptor. Desktop is quick- reacting and the games I did play (MC, Forza 6, the Long Dark, Borderlands 2, Railway Empire, heavily modded Morrowind) have been a blast!
need to do dumpster diving pcs, bring home literally all the pcs you can find and all available parts (that have even a remote chance of working) Show, Test, repair them!
wow, skyway pc is actual my first pc :)
I got extremely lucky with my x58 setup, I managed to get an i7 920, p6t se and 6gb of ram for 20 quid off a local seller, got a xeon x5675 for 20 quid, and got 6 4gb ddr3 sticks for a fiver a piece, pretty happy with the prices and the performance :)
I have a similar setup but just with I i7 920 like you had in the beginning
@@2048Megabytes. very nice, i actually got given another x58 board in the past couple of months to play around with, honestly the p6x58de is an upgrade for sure lol
i do remeber your last podcast and now we have this one. Nice
Great video!! Like all the insight! Loved all 3 builds! Glad I found you all!!
Thank you for another great video. Also thank you for letting us all know about three other great RUclips channels :)
I was just thinking about this channel and boom! I summoned you by sheer brain power.
Big brain
I'm really enjoyed watching old system build
One of the most calming voices on youtube
The GTX 770 4g is still a good card for the money in my opinion
The funny thing is the fx 6300 was a great performing cpu to me because I never had the experience of using an intel cpu on a PC newer than a core 2 quad and was a decent upgrade from a amd phenom 9650 I lived with for 4 years. And for much of the time I had daily driven it it was overclocked to 4.2ghz on all cores. Sure in the most demanding games I ran on it, it showed its weakness, but I was able to live with it fine for 2 years (from 2018 to 2020) having not experienced what a new generation intel cpu feels like to use. Also me having a boot ssd on that PC helped and I wasen't playing alot of demanding games on it and I also made my first youtube videos on that PC which wasn't as bad as you'd think. Tho in 2020 I finally got to upgrade to a ryzen 5 2600 and finally could experience a much more capable cpu. But I still don't look back on the fx with as much hatred as most people do as it was my first DIY pc build and my first time getting to really tinker around with a PC. The fx cpu was given to me by a friend of mine so I couldn't complain, also same with the ryzen 5 2600.
My spare PC build involves:
Q8400 with intel factory forced lga 115x cooler (from 10100f box)
G41 combo motherboard
2x4gb ddr3
320gb 3.5inch sata
Crap PSU
RMD Tech, you need to build an FX system. I'm not joking, you need to for the retrospective, and it will make some interesting content too.
I truly believe that it is necessary to truly appreciate just what a *Gigantic* leap forward Ryzen was, and how far behind the game AMD was against the ringbus Intel offerings.
Damn, I gotta put this gem in the watch later list
Are you dissing my 2007-era cases?
That was the best era!
/s
(But I do actually quite like that era, The Antec P180 series was great and the 1200 was also pretty cool)
Years ago I built a pc from parts others had thrown away. I may have only 6 gigs of DDR2 ram but it still works.
podcast type beat, nice video to have in the background
X58 maxed out and tuned properly in general out performs 1155 in games. Having owned both multiple x58 systems and a 3770k pc
While I can agree that FX is terrible, but the 6 and 8 thread FX cpu's are far more capable than you give them credit for. The 6 thread can handle up to a 1050ti in modern games, but some cames will have issues with single core for sure, the 8 thread can handle an RX 570 no problems, and a 580 wouldn't be a stretch
welcome back!
really miss ur video man
Back when AMD's flagship were US$250 and raised in core count from the previous flagship. Now, AMD is charging users more for less.
Considering how useless FX is even with the high core count + terrible IPC, I'd say it's an upgrade.
OK I was like "oh a short and cool video"
Then I saw the 1h length
still sitting here with an FX 8320 Black Edition that got handed down to me when relatives upgraded their motherboards to get ryzen
had the cpu for a couple years now, never realised how bad the FX series had been, guess the fact that I only ever experienced the high end has a lot of to do with that
They weren't near as bad as the haters try to make them out. Especially compared to the price of Intel stuff at the time.
“Soon” you said
18:00 I think some X58 boards will actually take 48GB RAM, but it may well be on a board by board scenario.
Imagine Linus entering.
So we just happend to have a Radeon 6900XT just sitting around, a Ryzen 9 5950XT, a 1200w psu, 128gb of ram, the best motherboard on the market right now, X4 8TB SSD NVME M.2's, and a $1200 case.
Linus: Seems fair.
This gonna be good !
lol. I’m building the cheapest brand new pc right now and this is pretty awesome
this is my bread and butter, one day i dream of participating.
Skyway really flexing on us with dual gpu
I hava a X58 Board that actually needs a Fan pointed at it or it will not work. Not the VRM is the problem but the Chipset. It gets to a billion degrees even with a big ass cooler on it if I don't point a fan at it.
Sounds like it needs some new thermal paste/pads and possibly to have some airflow like you already have.
"Or a beer if that's more your thing"
Also now we need to do this again!! Lol
I almost sold a gpu to tech tested, an r9 290 but he got his fixed up, we live pretty close to eachother surprisingly lol
My spare parts PC looks like this:
Core i7-920 + stock cooler
12GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM
Nvidia GeForce GT 520
Gigabyte X58 motherboard
And no case (yet)
i am a firm supporter of the FX series (mostly for nostalgia reasons) but they usually overclock very nicely and i am using a 6300 right now, while i can see its definetly holding my pc back slightly its doing well enough that i dont want to replace it until it becomes a hard limit at some point.
This video isnt being recommended for some reason. Had to search your channel up to find it
Bro got better scrap parts than my whole pc parts lol
linus be like:
i9 10900k
rtx 3090
69tb ram
Gnagnagna Linus... Stop praising crooks
@s1mple exactly my thoughts
You know why “Tech Tested” Cut his Case in half don’t you? Well if his cooling does start leaking again then at least it won’t fill the Case with water! 😂
Is it silly that I actually wactively *want* an FX machine *because* it's terrible? Not to use of course but as retro machine and piece of history? Terrible is interesting.
I dunno. The Core Duo (not Core 2 Duo), Core 2 Solo, classic N Atoms, as well as Duron and Sempron (as well as Turion for laptops). Those are interesting.
FX is not interesting. It's just shit.
how do i submit my budget pc that was built from spare parts?
Triple channel x58...Quad channel is X99 Lga 2011..
Budget build covers that era of operating systems that are very nostalgic to my heart , post dos but pre modern operating systems like 2000 and windows xp etc are my all time favorite types of operating systems , i remember when i was in my early 20s using these operating systems as i finally was introduced to my very own pc .
I love x58.
Honestly your McDonalds shoebox build is 10x better than these builds
Awesome video
There are many used x58 in germany
i5-3470+gt730 2gb gddr5 OC , can't run warzone and cyberpunk tho
its a great little lan pc build
Cyberpunk 2077? That's a bit of a PC melter at the moment, from what I've seen, and I'd be hoping that optimizations can be made to get it working on lower end hardware. From what I've seen, even my 1050Ti in my gaming laptop, or the 960 (2GB) in my tower PC, would struggle to get an acceptable frame rate in Cyberpunk 2077. The tower PC also has an i5-4460, which is fine for my requirements, but not for Cyberpunk...
good video
did i dream it or did he have a vid up about an itx server pc?
yeah, he did.
@@douglasrogers4675 what happened? Did i miss something?
Render issues it will be re-uploaded again soon.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial good to know, love your work man keep it up!
Wow, those vids were painful. Sorry, but the builds were horrid from an aesthetic standpoint. I actually enjoy your builds as the builds are more polished in terms of wire management etc.
Who has a 780ti just lying about?
Me:
Watch a movie: nah
Watch a 1hour video about a pc build: **mirable**
Do a collab with RGinHd
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The fx 6300 came out in 2012, the i3 6100 came out in late 2015...
...whats with all the fx hate?
Y'all need to compare it to a processor three years newer just to dog on it?
Fx for the money is still fine when paired with the right graphics card at the right resolution and detail settings.
I've got an FX 6300 on a Gigabyte GA970 udp3 (2x8)16Gb Kingston hyper x 1866 mhz, 1tb team ssd and an r9 290 all old gear that still hits decent frames at 1080p low detail.
The issue is compared to everything else now the FX series has aged awfully and is terrible value, it’s not 2012 anymore, and time hasn’t been kind.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Well I still respectfully disagree to a point.
Yeah starting a "new" fx build is pointless on that you're 100% correct.
For those who still have fx systems and haven't already replaced their cpu platform there's still a little relevance left in the FX platform.
If someone is still using a traditional hard drive, low on ram or has a low end FX cpu their system can still be upgraded for very little cost, maybe even as little as 25$ on an ssd drive can give something someone was going to toss a bit more use.
Upgrading the boot drive is about the best potential upgrade someone can do to squeeze more life out of their old FX hardware.
Getting more or faster ram is less effective of an upgrade because you cant bring it forward into a new system, and on cpu you're right that it's a dead end because you cant bring that forward into a new system either.
Personally I'd only upgrade a low end cpu if I were also looking to expand ram too, a cpu mobo ram combo could be found online fairly cheap.
One more point of relevance to the fx series, overclocking, for anyone looking to get into overclocking it might be of some value to practice on an fx series setup you wont cry about if you fry it.
The real limitation to gamers is graphics cards being ridiculously expensive so there's no point in even trying to get a decent graphics card at a reasonable price right now.
Pretty much the only way to get a decent graphics card without getting completely ripped off is to buy a prebuilt and upgrade that.
Hey Budget builds i love your content and if you have the timr could you please upload more consistently like 1 time a week, and do some laptop content. Big fan, love the videos.
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Let me get this straight: you mention the FX system being a dead end, yet you don't mention that at all the other two equally defunct platforms?
1155 you can work your way upto the i7 3770 and 3770K as I say, with the X58 system you can work yourr way upto an overclockable 6 Core Xeon or i7. They're all outdated, but I have used FX, even at its best it is still nowhere as good as people think untill you try a different system.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial I guess I should have specified that almost any other CPU can be better than any Bulldozer based chip, but IMHO you weren't painting a full picture when phrasing it in the script: both are equally dead platforms, yet 1155 is still usable, whilst the FXs are crap all around. Not accusing you of being biased or anything of the sort, just seemed a little bit off, knowing the way you usually go about your business, that's all.
Keep up the good work though!
Definitely was more down to me trying to keep it breif, as we do touch on it fully in the main discussion later on in the video, where we give FX a few more pointers for what it can actually be good at.
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This was a great video, thank you! Really enjoyed the entire series, including watching the contestants' entries, what they had to offer, and what they were judged on.
My thoughts: I agree with exactly what is stated in the video, regarding the winner, and the reasoning for why they won.
(SPOILER ALERT: clicking "read more" or scrolling to the rest of this comment will give spoilers - only proceed if you're happy/watched the video already.)
PC Flippin: 3rd generation i5 gives good performance, whilst also having an upgrade path to an i7. 16GB RAM is a good amount to have, and whilst upgrading it further might (or might not) be possible (albeit expensive - at least there are 4x RAM slots), having enough RAM is worthwhile. Graphics card is decent and I like the idea of salvaging HDDs from satellite or cable TV boxes (I do this myself when they are cheap enough). Only thing I'd have done is used a boot SSD instead of the 320GB laptop hard drive (and possibly added a Wi-Fi module). And yes, I do have some K'Nex from when I was younger. :)
Tech Tested: It has the most amount of RAM, which is good - and whilst I doubt you'll be able to easily upgrade from 24GB (some X58 boards may allow for 48GB RAM, but I'm not sure if this one will), there is plenty of RAM for anything you need to do. The CPU is OK but it's only a 1st gen i7; Intel's Core i series has come a long way since then. There's also not much upgradability from there (except maybe a better i7, or a Xeon). GPU is good but the bottleneck for me is the SSD. 240GB is fine for the OS and programs (so OK as an office PC), but for gaming/video editing/storing documents etc, you need more. My photos, videos and music will not fit on a 240GB SSD, which is why my main laptop still uses a 2TB mechanical disk. I'd also rather use conventional air cooling (and have plenty of it), rather than a haphazard water cooling system that is both more complex, and prone to failure/damaging components; remember, water and electricity don't mix well...
Skyway: Like the idea of having 2x GPUs - it means you can use one for gaming and one for workstation tasks, or one for gaming and one for video encoding/decoding etc. I'd personally use the 2nd GPU as the rendering device for Streamlabs (or other streaming software) for livestreaming on Twitch, or for recording gameplay/other videos on. Alternatively, it's a way of driving multiple monitors. I also like the idea of multiple secondary HDDs for data storage; with some games being very large (GTA 5's download is over 100GB!), you need a secondary drive, and whilst an SSD is preferable, mechanical disks are much cheaper and will do the job perfectly. I also like the addition of a Wi-Fi module (whether it works or not, remains to be seen - it needs some antennas for a start!). For me though, 8GB RAM isn't enough (some RAM sticks were faulty and replaced), so that would have to be upgraded (my main laptop, gaming laptop and tower PC all came to me with 8GB, and all were upgraded to at least 16GB), and the FX series of CPUs wouldn't be my preferred choice either. You could upgrade to a better FX (you could even get an FX 9590 if you had the right PSU, cooling and motherboard) but for me, there's better choices - such as the 3rd Generation Core i platform used by PC Flippin, or the 4th generation Core i that my tower PC uses. If staying with AMD, I'd choose Ryzen over FX.
Ultimately, the most balanced system, as well as the system I'd be happiest using, is the one from PC Flippin, due to the good combination of CPU, RAM, GPU, storage, and possible upgrades.
Top tier comment 10/10 Glad you enjoyed the whole thing :)
edit: It seems like Tech Tested's motherboard has 6x RAM slots, and they used 3 of them! So assuming that the motherboard, CPU and BIOS allowed it, you could theoretically upgrade to 48GB RAM, though whether that is possible or not, is another matter.