I know right. He said the blue doesn't go with the car and proceeded to make them a little less blue. The red callipers still clash with the rims. And Honda logos
Plus he took advans with original finish, and now they're refinished wheels. Bit of a head scratcher. I think the correct move would have been to keep the original advan blue wheel color, but refinish the calipers. Likely would have been cheaper too.
Plastics polymer student. Polymer is a very broad term but yeah it’s plastic. But for production and cost per part the performance of plastic would be fine.
@@LMFAO5001 that’s like a branch but whether it’s hdpe or pe or pp or glass flilled or just trade name dow chemical derived for Honda. So lots of stuff that’s not dense and stuff that’s super dense that’s all plastic
The stance on this thing is perfect, but with the metallic flake that powdercoat has those wheels still look blue in the sunlight to me. Better get some blue calipers to be safe
Time to sit down with my coffee, and watch my adult Saturday morning cartoons😁 edit: Car looks great now btw. I wasn't a fan of the blue rims. The lip and skirts have a nice, subtle oem+ look👍
if my wheels were being painted i'd stop the guy after they were stripped of old paint and asked if that natural color could be clear coated. also the new paint still looks funky and toyish
I appreciate the fact that the back of the wheels were kept clean during the powder coating process. I've seen too many wheels where that isn't done which leads to vibration on the road and the powder coating needing to be removed from the contact surface which could lead to other problems if the person removing the powder coating gets too aggressive.
I have Aphantasia, so my brain can't imagine or retain images. To me, without a side by side, your wheels have NOT changed at all. They are just more sparkly lol. 😂
Can dynos be calibrated? I work in an industry where even 1% error (sometimes even .1% error) would be entirely unacceptable, so hearing that there's 10% error and everyone is fine with it blows my mind. Granted there's not much risk to people's safety if your dyno isn't reporting exact, so the expense to calibrate it might not be considered worth it.
@@Maaaaaax-07 Yeah, I'm guessing all this shop is doing is just looking for changes in HP and torque, not the absolute value of it. For that, an uncalibrated system probably works fine for them. To answer your question, I work in aerospace testing and instrumentation.
Yes they can but there's so many different standards for horsepower measurement there's no way of knowing who's got theirs set to what. Of course it's not a ruler though it's a tool for quantifying change so ultimately the end number is meaningless to us fuel injection calibrators. Try and explain that to consumers though lol.....
@@dat_bouy Crank horsepower has to be extrapolated from a wheel horsepower figure on a chassis dyno. Nobody uses flywheel horsepower on a chassis dyno for that reason... it's far less consistent.
you left out probably the most important part of the PWR intercooler, its a tune and fin core, which in addition to being light does a good job of letting air through it to also cool the radiator behind it. The super heavy bar and plate cores most of the other competitors use suck at letting air through. so your engine might be getting cooler air, your coolant gets even hotter than it did with the stock intercooler (also tube and fin)
One of the few automotive channels on YT where I don't mind the background music. The background music was what got me hooked to G&G ever since the US cross country road trip!
Should have just clear coated the wheels after they came out of the acid. Raw aluminum would look way better than this darker blue. I get you wanna avoid bronze (idk why) but blacks, blues, purples don’t really belong on a white car with red accents. Thems the rules. Wrap the car yellow, powder coat the calipers blue or black and then that wheel color will work. Take it from me man. I got my Jeep pearl blue and its trim level put orange accents everywhere. Really nice color combo. Except for the black wheels. Couldn’t stand em. I went and painted em white and it really made my Jeep pop. Follow the color wheel rules, it works for a reason.
So wild this dude is stripping wheels in his garage and rinsing all that water into the normal sewage system. He’s literally destroying the water table in his neighborhood 🤦♂️
Look let's give him the benefit of doubt he's probably got a tank that stores that water and then probably has a truck come in and do it properly you know
That's how I feel about my 2018 GTI. Running 323whp and 368trq. Great daily driver, I easily get mid 30s MPG on road trips. Practical, comfy, perfect for me.
I'm sure in person it's a lot more different. But on the old RUclipss the rims just look darker. But I can understand if blue is what you originally wanted so going a little darker I get it. I like them I can dig it also I really like how Honda did that intercooler
Why would you buy expensive wheels and then paint them black, not to see the design of the wheels? Should've went with any other color, not black. Black is not a color, it's an absence of color
Personally not a fan of black wheels due to tires being a lighter color than them, a gunmetal or dark gray pleases my brain but glad you don't have the spiderman thing going on anymore lol
Went to the comments to see if I was crazy thinking that the wheels are practically the same after the powder coating… happy to see I’m not the only one lol
Looks good with the aero, kinda OEM+! Although the wheels still look like they have a blue hue to them...maybe it's just my screen. I think bronze would have looked good as an alternative option.
A lot of people are complaining that this new color still looks kinda blue, but I think it is perfectly fine; it is a lot more sophisticated blue. Or maybe it looks blue because of reflection or even camera color correction. But yeah, it looks sophisticated, and the shades of blue seem to change in different environments as well.
On modern cars like this you tend to only make it worse after this point. Once you address obvious weaknesses (cooling) you will for sure compromise more than you will improve. It's spot on, leave it alone.
ben, for increased reliability you should look for some kind of billet block and head to make sure that you dont crack the block, 310whp might be to much for the stock botom end so forged piston and rods whould be nice
First half of this video tripped me out because the wheels went from blue, to slightly darker blue. Which seems like a lot of money and effort, but I digress... As for the power level, 300ish to the wheels in a FWD is a great all around spot to be, but those new Type Rs are so heavy, even a Cobalt SS can walk away from them at the same power level. This being the case, I strongly suggest pushing it up to 400-450whp at least, to give it a fighting chance at being more than every other intake/exhaust/tune "build." That was what I honestly expected out of this video when you've been saying, "we're going to add power!" It implies, more than stock 😅 Still very excited to see this type R in the practical hands of G&G and to see how she holds up during the roadtrip!
Just when I think you guys are more squared away than your reg car human, you throw some crap lugs on those dope ass wheels. Faith restored. Keep goin!
I wonder if you considered angle of attack. Yes that hidden lip is 3.5 inches off the ground BUT it is closer to the pivot point(front tire) than the 5 inch high front bumper. I will wager all the money to say you scrape going up any sudden incline now.
I'm curious to see what kind of overheating mitigation can be done for track use. From what I've seen since the FK8 is no one thing nor combination of things seems to solve the issue. I've seen people replace the intercooler, oil cooler, add vented hood, heat wrap everything and add a secondary radiator and still these things over hear after a few laps. The race teams may have solved the problem but street cars trying to follow thier formula aren't getting the same results.
Pwr for short ben so far: didnt cool as expected and wa sinnpart responsible for blowing the k-series, weight save option that added weight. Im very excited for the comeback😂
You guys should partner with carbotech I love their street ceramic pads for the gradual brake feel and clear brake dust and good for swapping to track pads supposedly!
It’s true lol. I drove my 2017 MK7 GTI as a daily its entire life until the motor seized at 184k miles (I’m the original owner). It’s been tuned and modified since 2k miles, so practically its entire life. Now I drive a 2017 Ford C-Max Hybrid as a daily and I love having this car as a daily. It won’t ever be modified and gets great mpg’s. So much better having a dedicated practical daily instead of a car that’s always being modded.
I like the new blue wheels better than the other blue wheels, lol. Also, maybe it's just me but I'd visit another dyno just to be certain, the baseline seemed way off from the start.
Am i blind or is that thing still kinnnnnnda blue
Def has some blue undertones, kinda like Honda’s old Nighthawk Black Pearl which shines blue in the sun.
Its still bluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue
I know right. He said the blue doesn't go with the car and proceeded to make them a little less blue. The red callipers still clash with the rims. And Honda logos
Nah thats exactly what I said in my head lol, looks better nonetheless
Personally I would have changed the color of the brake calipers. The red is what seems out of place imo
The black wheels look the same as when the blue ones were dirty 💀, bronze is easily the best combo for this color scheme
😄 I saw your comment before I watched the video and you're absolutely right
White on White would have been chefs kiss
Wanted white one white or bronze
They same same
I would have gone gunmetal with some silver metal flake in it.
I love how the wheels went from blue to blue!!!!
😂
Blue to a darker blue🤔
Facts
ya it still looks kinda blue..
Still blue!
The new rim color is a sidegrade at best.
agree...almost look blue again in some light, just more glitter.
Plus he took advans with original finish, and now they're refinished wheels. Bit of a head scratcher. I think the correct move would have been to keep the original advan blue wheel color, but refinish the calipers. Likely would have been cheaper too.
A sidegrade😂
That’s hilarious
Is it just me or did he just go from ocean blue to like midnight blue or is that the camera doing its colour correction
Gold/bronze would look so much nicer with the white car and the red calippers
100% done all the time for a reason
Amen
Yes. Would love the gold or bronze look. Old school but still classic and timeless
@@KurtAndresKA a clearcoat on the wheels when they had been powder blasted would look cool as well
@@KimmyGuardadoThey did clear them
I don’t feel like the wheels look much different.
6:23 - *_"Polymer Material™"_* is just a fancy way to say its made of _plastic._
Plastics polymer student. Polymer is a very broad term but yeah it’s plastic. But for production and cost per part the performance of plastic would be fine.
polymer is plastic but it usual refers to dense plastic like the plastic used in gun stocks and knife handles.
Saying something is made of plastic is just as vague if not more vague than saying its polymer
@@LMFAO5001 that’s like a branch but whether it’s hdpe or pe or pp or glass flilled or just trade name dow chemical derived for Honda. So lots of stuff that’s not dense and stuff that’s super dense that’s all plastic
This is some Apple behaviour
The wheels result was great, but still for me doesnt go with the car , don't know why but is not a match for me
Flat or semi gloss would've been a better look. Similar to stock wheels.
The stance on this thing is perfect, but with the metallic flake that powdercoat has those wheels still look blue in the sunlight to me.
Better get some blue calipers to be safe
I mean he complains about hating blue but ends up changing it to a different shade of blue, better he kept it silver 😂
Cool wheel prep process... but do all those chemicals just get rinsed into the environment? No collection and disposal?
What do you expect of a dude in a garage. No accountability.
He did a good job in my opinion, but it really seems that he didn't try to prevent the chemicals from going into the ground
Shut up
I noticed the same thing! Paint stripping chemicals just running down the driveway into the sewer!
The stripper he is using is 100% biodegradable so its safe for the ground. Most powder companies the powder itself is also biodegradable
The chemicals used to strip have got to be so intense to be breathing around
And didn't he wash them down a driveway?
That can’t be good for the environment
@@TheZohanLohanexactly what I was thinking.
yeah, lemme just rinse these corrosive chemicals off these wheels and into the street.👍🏽
@@TheZohanLohan yeah, not the best thing you can do, kind of shitty he actually washed it down the driveway like that after
Ben continues to slowly turn his Si into his former WRX.
4 different cars.
Time to sit down with my coffee, and watch my adult Saturday morning cartoons😁
edit: Car looks great now btw. I wasn't a fan of the blue rims. The lip and skirts have a nice, subtle oem+ look👍
Best part of Saturday mornings
We should start a club LMAO 🤣
Sunday morning for me. Some roasted brazilian beans brewed, and a comfy couch in the late spring sun.
Has that coffee reached the toilet yet?
For the pwr section, yes.
if my wheels were being painted i'd stop the guy after they were stripped of old paint and asked if that natural color could be clear coated.
also the new paint still looks funky and toyish
I appreciate the fact that the back of the wheels were kept clean during the powder coating process. I've seen too many wheels where that isn't done which leads to vibration on the road and the powder coating needing to be removed from the contact surface which could lead to other problems if the person removing the powder coating gets too aggressive.
I have Aphantasia, so my brain can't imagine or retain images. To me, without a side by side, your wheels have NOT changed at all. They are just more sparkly lol. 😂
Wheels still look ricey as hell!
Bronze, white, matt black... so many good options! Almost looks like you are going for all the ones that look bad!
Dude has terrible taste and is a hypebeast..
As an Aussie, I got a mild laugh out of your Australian accent..
the powder coated wheels look great
excited for the road trip series!
Can dynos be calibrated? I work in an industry where even 1% error (sometimes even .1% error) would be entirely unacceptable, so hearing that there's 10% error and everyone is fine with it blows my mind. Granted there's not much risk to people's safety if your dyno isn't reporting exact, so the expense to calibrate it might not be considered worth it.
They can be calibrated, yeah. But honestly and like you said, it doesnt really matter.
What field do you work in ?
@@Maaaaaax-07 Yeah, I'm guessing all this shop is doing is just looking for changes in HP and torque, not the absolute value of it. For that, an uncalibrated system probably works fine for them.
To answer your question, I work in aerospace testing and instrumentation.
Yes they can but there's so many different standards for horsepower measurement there's no way of knowing who's got theirs set to what. Of course it's not a ruler though it's a tool for quantifying change so ultimately the end number is meaningless to us fuel injection calibrators.
Try and explain that to consumers though lol.....
This is why crank HP is actually a better metric. Less pieces, less parasitic loss, and more consistent.
@@dat_bouy Crank horsepower has to be extrapolated from a wheel horsepower figure on a chassis dyno. Nobody uses flywheel horsepower on a chassis dyno for that reason... it's far less consistent.
Normally I don't like black wheels as they blend with the black tire, but these do look good on the car. Good job.
you left out probably the most important part of the PWR intercooler, its a tune and fin core, which in addition to being light does a good job of letting air through it to also cool the radiator behind it. The super heavy bar and plate cores most of the other competitors use suck at letting air through. so your engine might be getting cooler air, your coolant gets even hotter than it did with the stock intercooler (also tube and fin)
One of the few automotive channels on YT where I don't mind the background music.
The background music was what got me hooked to G&G ever since the US cross country road trip!
Should have just clear coated the wheels after they came out of the acid. Raw aluminum would look way better than this darker blue. I get you wanna avoid bronze (idk why) but blacks, blues, purples don’t really belong on a white car with red accents. Thems the rules. Wrap the car yellow, powder coat the calipers blue or black and then that wheel color will work. Take it from me man. I got my Jeep pearl blue and its trim level put orange accents everywhere. Really nice color combo. Except for the black wheels. Couldn’t stand em. I went and painted em white and it really made my Jeep pop. Follow the color wheel rules, it works for a reason.
Or championship white. Cus, well you know. Everybody knows
Black looks the same. Shouldve gone for champoinship white
Beautiful Type R. The Ben's really know how to modify their cars in a classy and beautiful way!
Wheels look awesome!!
Love this channel 😊 my Saturdays wouldn't be same
PWR intercooler is an amazing piece. Damn that thing is a beauty
That amount of hp is plenty bro, and you know it.
Looks and drives amazing, so jealous. Plz don’t destroy it
champ white ctr on mag blue wheels with red calipers never misses imo but to each his own!
Am I Color Blind or do the wheels still look 👀 Ugly Blue. Should have gone with Bronze / Gold!
Garrett turbo + custom intake, basically completes the build
I liked the look of the blue wheels better. But they still look good in this black color. Well done.😊
If only I could own a Civic Type R. Congratulations on making it your daily driver!.
PERSONALLY i preferred the blue but the new color is still nice
So wild this dude is stripping wheels in his garage and rinsing all that water into the normal sewage system. He’s literally destroying the water table in his neighborhood 🤦♂️
Exactly my thoughts. Pretty sure Virginia as a state doesn’t give a shit about that though.
Like you don’t? Your piss is piss and shit is way worse than stripped wheels.
it'll be fine
Look let's give him the benefit of doubt he's probably got a tank that stores that water and then probably has a truck come in and do it properly you know
Your entire country is finished bro, don't worry about some contamination
Those wheels have a Honda Nighthawk Black Pearl feel to it 😍
That's how I feel about my 2018 GTI. Running 323whp and 368trq. Great daily driver, I easily get mid 30s MPG on road trips. Practical, comfy, perfect for me.
Damn, that FL5 is just so much better looking than FK8. I love these things, so handsome.
The wheels bare metal looked crazy I would just clear coat them for protection.
Have to say still don’t like the wheels and the new colour looks Fairly the same at a distance.
Would go for the Spoon wheels
9:25 Today on MCM
17:43 still blue 🤣🤣
Your car with the exact modifications you have done, especially those Wheels, is my dream daily
raw finish wouldve been so nice
I'm sure in person it's a lot more different. But on the old RUclipss the rims just look darker. But I can understand if blue is what you originally wanted so going a little darker I get it. I like them I can dig it also I really like how Honda did that intercooler
"My favorite Subaru shop" (Evo on the lift right behind Ben) lol
Why would you buy expensive wheels and then paint them black, not to see the design of the wheels? Should've went with any other color, not black. Black is not a color, it's an absence of color
Black is for steelies
I love the drag strip on the background of the Dynojet that’s cool 😊
Watching old videos of Gears and Gasoline, its interesting to see the journey from a Subaru fan to a full fledged Honda guy.
Going from blue to dark blue is why people think car people are idiots
Wheels are now Brakedust Blue 😂
Personally not a fan of black wheels due to tires being a lighter color than them, a gunmetal or dark gray pleases my brain but glad you don't have the spiderman thing going on anymore lol
It makes a big difference when you get a decent tire shine product on the rubber. Something that makes it a nice dark satin. Cause I agree otherwise.
Lugnuts are less than a dollar a piece. You can get them at any auto store place in many colors.
Nice work. I love my CTR…. Just so much fun to drive.
Love the videos, always excited to see my RUclips feed that y’all release a new video. Keep it up Ben
I think hamburgers and cheeseburgers work well with fries
Went to the comments to see if I was crazy thinking that the wheels are practically the same after the powder coating… happy to see I’m not the only one lol
Finally, was waiting for an update on this Type R.
Looks good with the aero, kinda OEM+! Although the wheels still look like they have a blue hue to them...maybe it's just my screen. I think bronze would have looked good as an alternative option.
Sorry Ben. That much fleck in the new wheel's paint looks tacky af
A lot of people are complaining that this new color still looks kinda blue, but I think it is perfectly fine; it is a lot more sophisticated blue. Or maybe it looks blue because of reflection or even camera color correction. But yeah, it looks sophisticated, and the shades of blue seem to change in different environments as well.
The wheels definitely still have a blue tint to them. I would have done silver or bronze 👌🏼
On modern cars like this you tend to only make it worse after this point. Once you address obvious weaknesses (cooling) you will for sure compromise more than you will improve. It's spot on, leave it alone.
Looks amazing! Power is perfect for a daily!
But the wheels are still blue...
ben, for increased reliability you should look for some kind of billet block and head to make sure that you dont crack the block, 310whp might be to much for the stock botom end so forged piston and rods whould be nice
First half of this video tripped me out because the wheels went from blue, to slightly darker blue. Which seems like a lot of money and effort, but I digress...
As for the power level, 300ish to the wheels in a FWD is a great all around spot to be, but those new Type Rs are so heavy, even a Cobalt SS can walk away from them at the same power level. This being the case, I strongly suggest pushing it up to 400-450whp at least, to give it a fighting chance at being more than every other intake/exhaust/tune "build." That was what I honestly expected out of this video when you've been saying, "we're going to add power!" It implies, more than stock 😅 Still very excited to see this type R in the practical hands of G&G and to see how she holds up during the roadtrip!
Just when I think you guys are more squared away than your reg car human, you throw some crap lugs on those dope ass wheels. Faith restored. Keep goin!
Love seeing the car displaying all those faults with assists while it’s on the dyno. I like to imagine it’s confused up there
The lip kit weight you added will slow you down! Love the dyno math!
Ditch the cobb and go with ecutek remap
I wonder if you considered angle of attack. Yes that hidden lip is 3.5 inches off the ground BUT it is closer to the pivot point(front tire) than the 5 inch high front bumper. I will wager all the money to say you scrape going up any sudden incline now.
I'm curious to see what kind of overheating mitigation can be done for track use. From what I've seen since the FK8 is no one thing nor combination of things seems to solve the issue. I've seen people replace the intercooler, oil cooler, add vented hood, heat wrap everything and add a secondary radiator and still these things over hear after a few laps. The race teams may have solved the problem but street cars trying to follow thier formula aren't getting the same results.
let us know how the gap in the front lip works out. Seems like a big drag catcher
Wait! Excuse my ignorance, is FL5 AWD???
No lol
Keep surprising us with your wonderful ideas. Your videos are a real inspiration.🎯🐮🤭
That's a nice blue you picked out for the wheels
Surely you can box in the intercooler to make it work better for cheap?
Pwr for short ben so far: didnt cool as expected and wa sinnpart responsible for blowing the k-series, weight save option that added weight. Im very excited for the comeback😂
You guys should partner with carbotech I love their street ceramic pads for the gradual brake feel and clear brake dust and good for swapping to track pads supposedly!
omg the wheel just bare looks beautiful
From Blue wheels to Blue wheels wtf 😂
The powder coat guy seems like a good dude with a good business
They are still blue. How embarrassing.
he who modifies his daily driver, will soon say "i need a daily driver"
It’s true lol. I drove my 2017 MK7 GTI as a daily its entire life until the motor seized at 184k miles (I’m the original owner). It’s been tuned and modified since 2k miles, so practically its entire life. Now I drive a 2017 Ford C-Max Hybrid as a daily and I love having this car as a daily. It won’t ever be modified and gets great mpg’s.
So much better having a dedicated practical daily instead of a car that’s always being modded.
@haitchdi is that a quote from Confucius?😅
Yeah! Finally a roadtrip 🎉
It’s beautiful 😍 and I own a FK8 which I love!
Can't wait the road trip vids
I like the new blue wheels better than the other blue wheels, lol. Also, maybe it's just me but I'd visit another dyno just to be certain, the baseline seemed way off from the start.
Did you do anything with the brakes and fluid. According to savage geese, CTRs chew through brakes because of their torque vectoring.
Akebono asp1001 for the front and act1878 rear, no brake dust at all!!
Looking good dude
Blue is better than blue
front/downpipe to free the stock turbo flow
White on blue kinda nice tho. Maybe without those red calipers it would’ve been nice
Ben just said red white and blue was too funky.
BRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH............