Terrible moderator. Asking leading questions, interrupting and interjecting as soon as the conversation isn't going where he wants it to. Good on Sachs keeping his cool and handling it so well.
I have always despised Roger Cohen, an ideologue who can only regurgitate the party line without being able to think independently. A disgrace! It is of course no surprise that only parroting ideologues can work at NY Times.
I am from Taiwan. Ben Ki-Moon didn't take his role in the dialogue serious and talked like a true bureaucrat. They should have invited a philosophical professor from China for this role. Jeffrey Sachs is brilliant as ever, and a true philosopher of unequaled courage.
This forum is, I think, funded by NY Times. So for sure, they won't have a Mainlander Chinese here, but instead will get a lackey like Mr Ban from South Korea
Moon is Prof. Sach's boss at the UN. New York Times used to be paper of record, how far it has fallen. Moon would never got the post if he doesn't toe US lines.
USA and UK have done a great job for India by Proxy war with Russia. Now Indian govt and Businesses have bargain power like China. India will not purchase or import without Make in India program and IP hand over. G 7 is now Beggars 7. All want Indian help and Indian market. South Korea, Taiwan and Japan are eating Indian businesses. We want another Proxy by poking North Korea and China. They will be destroyed and India will be great again. Do this favour for India.
I went to high school in Oak Park, Michigan with him. He was very smart even then. He was a little guy always seen with a huge stack of books. Until now I've never seen a person consistently carry so many books.
He is my hero as well. He has done so much to help world poverty and promote world peace. He embodies what the UN aims to achieve. Also, this entire "confucius vs aristotle" scenario is ridiculous. And the moderator is annoying and condescending.
Sachs is like a voice in the wilderness of US ignorance and belligerent conformity. He is the model of bravery and fortitude amidst the pressures of group think. We should strive to emulate him.
@@benisrood Ironically; he is the only looking at the world as it is. For example: He is the only calling out western hypocrisy while everyone else pretends that western powers are altruistic heroes who’s only objective is to save lives
Jim, by morphing your words into action you’ve just created a GROUP- with THE RIGHT THINKING, RIGHT TOUCH. In that group though, there won’t be one single Jeff Sachs. He’s not striving, he’s not on the way to become somebody else, who he admires. He sees the world lacks respect, so he gifts the world with respect. He sees the world lacking the honesty, so he finds the guts to be honest. It’s as simple as that, and as blue as that.
Sachs doesn’t have a misunderstanding of Machiavelli. Machiavelli, or any other trickster, is not able to see the things as they are, they see the things as they want them to be. You can see it on anyone brainwashed with Western propaganda about democratic Ukraine, evil (stupid, terrible technology) Russia, etc
Pro. Sachs is a great scholar of today’s world! He deserves much respect as he stands for justice and truth, a man of integrity. By the way, Mr. “Korean” is no Confucius at all he is one of those politicians.
I love to hear from Dr Jeffrey Sachs speak. He is so wise and steady in answering questions. He should be UN Secretary General. I strongly believe he can bring peace to the world. God bless him with good health.
We are so lucky to have Professor Sachs, a man of honesty, integrity and great intellect who tells us how it really is. The moderator on the other hand was a disgrace either not knowing the crucial indisputable factual position of NATO expansion as outlined by Dr Sachs or purposely lying, and producing leading questions, and annoyingly and for no useful purpose disrupting Dr Sachs. He should never moderate an intelligent discussion again.
One thing needed to be asked by everyone, * Where did Confucius originated? * Did Confucius taught his students that been occupied is a proud thing to have? * Which states spread the Confucianism teaching to occupied Korea? * What language did Confucius spoke? Mandarin or Korean?
Confucius is a great sage of China. They should ask a Chinese philosopher to talk about Confucius teaching and not a Korean statesman who knew little about Confucius. The moderator is rude.
Its shameful that the moderator brought up Ukraine and NOT brought up Iraq or Afghanistan. Ban KeeMoon also should be ashamed to only condemn Russia without condemning US , Britain and EU. Confucious had always regarded fairness as a cornerstone of his philosiphy...afterall where can there be ANY relationship without this fairness. Politeness, courtesy, which are Confucian values, demands a sense of FAIRNESS in an exchange of views!!! The moderator was trying to sway the conversation to a Western advantage and does not deserve to be there....shame on him too!!!
B Ki Moon was the secretary of the UN when US led Nato was aggressively invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. And the ongoing genocide in Palestine. He's never condemned any of these crimes against humanity. This talk is a theoretical. Prof. Jeffrey Sachs is trying to be an intellectual and polite. The mediator is acting like a child. We both came to the same conclusion without knowing our thoughts.
@@AxmedBahjad Bang Ki Moon is unfit to talk about Confucionism because he does not practised Confucionism. His pro-West stand totally goes against Confucion beliefs on Fair-play and the possesion of having virtue. Maybe because he is Korean he cannot understand Mandarin Classics in which Confucionism Philosophy is written. The Organisers are so Anti-China that they cannot bring in a Chinese scholar to represent Confucious! This shows how "objective" they are about solving World issues! It was all a show to protray a pro-Western ideology and even then they failed....because Jeffery Sachs was the only person, the true leader, there who was determined to send a true message to the World. Shame on the moderator and Shame on Bang KiMoon!!!
Ban’s bread is buttered in d western system. He’s no Confucian. Mr Sachs is a lion. Whether Greek or Chinese, bravery is respected. Bravo, Mr Sachs. Bravo!
Everyone need to ask himself, Did Confucius speaks Korean, born in occupied Korea, eat an occupied Korea food, grew up in occupied Korea, and taught in occupied Korea school??????
Don't interrupt him when he's speaking the truth! We're sick of the lies! Jeffrey Sachs is loved by the people for being brave and wise enough to say the truth outloud, it's about time this world faces the truth and start doing something about it!
The idea of having this Korean and this moderator ruined the debate, but of course, it’s a propaganda masked under a “free” debate. Prof. Sachs, on the other hand, showed so much wisdom and intelligence, bravo!
I am from Taiwan, and I totally agree with you. Ben Ki-Moon didn't take his role in the dialogue serious and talked like a true bureaucrat. They should have invited a philosophical professor from China for this role.
@@joelockhart4128 the name Confucius is just the ridiculous Western name of the man named Konzi, Kong Qui. Nobody in East Asia calls him Confucius unless they are talking to an English speaker.
I think Sachs gets much better understanding of Confucius than Ban Kim Moon. Learning Confucius saying is the way to wisdom dealing with practical situation flexibily. Obviously, Sachs has this wisdom.
Deeply dissappointed with the wrong representative for Confucious. They probably didnt want a pro Western Chinese representative instead found a pro Western Korean to represent a Chinese sage. Professor Sachs understands and better represents Confucious. The moderator is definitely biased against Russia and China, seems very eager to jump in to interrupt when he is not happy with anti Western views.
Mr. Ban Ki Moon is a politician, absolutely not Confucius! His way of thinking IS the problem of today. I am actually rather surprised how shallow and close minded his thinking is considering the position he held. Dr. Sacks has true understanding of the spirit of Aristocracy and Confucius. I wonder how many people today want to listen to him. The virtues of moderation and wisdom have been forgotten. Instead we choose extremes and so called “bravery”. This tendency does NOT encourage us to live together but to die together!
B Ki Moon was the secretary of the UN when US led Nato was aggressively invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. And the ongoing genocide in Palestine. He's never condemned any of these crimes against humanity. This talk is a theoretical. Prof. Jeffrey Sachs is trying to be an intellectual and polite. The mediator is acting like a child.
How can an occupied Korean become a Confucius that originated in China not Korea ?? And even Chinese scholars Zhang Weiwei is not a proper Confucius because China is not an occupied states. 😂😂 👹🇺🇸👹
Agree. The former UN Secretary General is definitely not Confucius, but a true-blue politician catering to the ears of the popular narratives of the Western host.
What great logic and superb intellect Dr Sachs displayed. The moderator appeared not to like his views.I truly respect Dr Sachs’ courage and balanced views and hopefully more and more people will get his message.
Nah the moderator was doing his job, the moderator actually helped Sachs be convincing by giving him hard questions, but he couldn't do this with Konzi since he doesn't really understand Konzi.
Jeffrey Sachs …thank you for showing us what leadership should look like. Thank you taking such personal risks - it’s a rare treat to see integrity now a days.
Mr Ban Ki Moon is not representing confucious thinking at all and less of confuvious virtues with regard to the current world situation. Jeffry Sachs on the other hand is always very clear and powerful in all his exposures. He is the true thinker in this difficult time...
No he does not. Confucius lived in a time when China was in the greatest turmoil when warlords were fighting against one another. If the approach were to get all other warlords together to condemn the invading warlord he won't have got very far
Yeah. He does not represent Confucius. Truly disappointed with his approach. And it appears to me that he lack the courage to speak out in the face of his Western host and audience. I give my full respect to Prof Sachs for his courage to speak out in the face of the popular Western narratives.
This is Confucius quote “to put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order, to put the family in order, we must first cultivate our personal life; we must first set our hearts right”
YES. And he still said a word about it. Let alone condemnation. He became the secretary because the West put him there. He is a puppet and small thinker.
He already is already persona non grata , not a single mainstream media smaller or bigger talk to him, how many journalists mentioned him, only few channels on you tube, the numbers of viewers are small it's not enough, people have no interest in what he wants to say, he needs big big audience, can be you tube but big, maybe @joerogan could host Jeffery
Zelenskyy is also a forum speaker this year. It’s no wonder the host is extremely irritated by Aristotle. This forum doesn’t want discussion, it wants absolute condemnation. Aristotle gracefully explained a view not often given in the New York Times- balance- in an effort for peace.
I agree. This moderator is an idiot. The New York is just another bias Western media who do blind reporting, with no logical sense, and narrow minded. More and more Americans’ mind are going downhill. Most of them are liberal artists. When I was an Engineering graduate student, 90% of the students were foreigners. You need logic to be good in Engineering, not emotion.
Mr Sachs left Mr Moon in the dust. From what I understand of Aristotelian thought and Confucian philosophy, Mr Sachs came away from this discourse as the true hero.
Prof J Sachs’ in-depth knowledge, even temperament and clarity shines through again. This wise leader’s message needs much more exposure to all ppl in this distracted world. Would give anything to help achieve that forum and spread light & strive for peace.
What more can u expect from someone who was promoted to the top for being a good servant and ass kisser instead of his own merits? & why is it 2 old men in the 21st century? Any well educated Korean (or dare we say better mainland Chinese) university student, male or female, can probably represent Confucius better than this cowardly administrator
The final exchange between the moderator and Schas revealed how shallow the moderator is and how insightful Schas is. The political philosophy and human decency are in stark contrast in this instance.
I have always despised Roger Cohen, an ideologue who can only regurgitate the party line without being able to think independently. A disgrace! It is of course no surprise that only parroting ideologues can work at NY Times.
What a brave and brilliant scholar Prof Sachs is. On the other hand, the moderator, what a jerk he is. Have no idea who he is. But he does appear to me to be a down to earth racist who happened to wear a suite moderator action
Looks like Aristotle , was Confucius too in this dialogue Love you Aristotle-Confucius! Love and respect you Jeffrey Sachs! Thank you everyone for this amazing dialogue!
It takes a special quality to utter the truth that many don't know and many more don't want to hear, even getting hostile when they hear it, and that's exactly what Sachs is doing here. He had to set the record straight about the US's and NATO's broken promises to Russia. But at the same time, he showed courtesy to the moderator who sadly had to interrupt in deference to his sponsor, the NYT. It's evidently clear to me who among the three here has learned and applied what he learned really well. Great respect for Prof Sachs.
Stop dreaming, Mo. American could never have a person of Sachs’ calibre as President. Even if he was able to negotiate the toxicity of the system to get through suspect primaries and was miraculously elected President by a thoughtful and mature electorate (which does not exist), he would be destroyed by the oligarchs and sycophantic media within hours of being inaugurated. Failing that, he would butt up against a sea of indifferent puke they call congress. A case in point - Obama. Comes in on a white horse, wearing shiny armour. He is like manna from heaven, and definitely promises to solve all the world riddles quickly and efficiently. The regard for this person is so high, they anoint him with a Nobel prize for peace, in anticipation of future saintly deeds. What actually happens is history. He turns out to be just another figurehead, falling in line with the established norms. He lets down his race, his country and the rest of the world. Sure, he shoots baskets and eats apple pie, but he also becomes expert in shooting death-dealing drones, and eating up other people’s security and economies. No, Jeffrey Sachs still has his fidelity and his integrity. It is something the he can never be stripped of, no matter how hard the establishment swill tries.
I'm so embarrassed by Ban Ki moon's performance as Confucius ... looks like he had skipped many classes he claimed his fellow Koreans were required to sit thru since youth ...
Well, maybe this is what they learn in Korea from the great Asian thinkers like Confucius and Lao tze and mencius... He can't even credit them as Chinese...
I used to think American (NATO) foreign policy was evil, (still do), but I always believed American foreign policy didn't reflect true American values. I'm wrestling with that and am currently undecided but getting close to changing my mind. In 1994 Tonya Harding (American figure skater) destroyed (broke her knee) Nancy Kerrigan because she couldn't win fairly. Was that an anomaly or is that how most Americans compete? That's exactly what America is doing with Russia, Europe, China, and virtually every small country they deal with. If America can't compete, it destroys. Everybody knows it and they silently support it. Remember when Pompeo bragged at a Texas A&M university that the CIA "we lie, we steal, we cheat,' ? Well that's not really news but what I found scary was how the entire audience laughed and applauded. Americans seem to support cheating and lying and destroying anyone who might succeed. Americans stopped their government in the Vietnam war. Why have Americans not stopped their government from the continuous regime change, invasions, sanctions, and proxy wars that kill and impoverish people every day? So either America is not a democracy or the majority of Americans are as evil as the CIA and their foreign policy. Master List of US Aggression By William Blum Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government) China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Iraq 1991 Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti *2004 Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * Oh Yeah, Why does America need 863 military bases in 183 countries for "defense" the hypocrisy is mind boggling.
A proclaimed Confucius politician talks like a politician. Kudos to Jeffrey Sachs, clearly he understands both Aristotle and Confucius as well. We do not need to waste our life fighting with each other, we can reach out to each other to make this world better and promising.
No doubts, Pr. Sachs has the most wise clear intelligent thought. The westerners, especially thier leaders should listen to his speach. He should be awarded Nobel Peace Prize
Thank you Dr Sachs, you represent Aristotle and Confucius brilliantly. Our world is hopeful to have people like you who speak courageously for social justice, against all odds.
Ban is from South Korean. Confucius is ancient Chinese philosopher. Ban doesn't know much about Confucius philosophy. Replace Ban with a Chinese scholar.
@@kwokholuk8723 Ban doesn't even understand the question he is being asked and giving the typical virtual signal of a politician, but offers no real solution for the future or learning from the past.
When Ban heard Aristotle first talk HE got a equivalent of being hit by a truck... and he never recovered... he couldn’t bring himself to argue Aristotle because he knew he had no come back!
Prof Jeffrey Sachs did it amazingly. Straight forward and easy to understand . that's the best teacher. Teacher that made his pupils understand on all his lessons .
Ban is from South Korea. Confucius is ancient Chinese philosopher (551 B.C.一479 B.C.) Ban doesn't know much about Confucianism. Replace Ban with a Chinese scholar.
Sachs is an oracle, icon, legend, titan and unicorn. Sachs is an Uncommon Man. Sachs is the Larger Man. Sachs exceeds the ultimate. Sachs understands and sees the truths and virtues required to achieve the balance and harmony in the environment and the world. Sachs is not controlled and/or managed by the oligarchs, billionaires and elites. Sachs has more freedom to express the truths and virtues which will improve the world because he is not being influenced and funded by the political and financial leaders. Moon and the narrator, on the other hand, are definitely pawns and/or puppets who are being influenced, funded, manipulated and controlled by the super powerful political and wealthy financial leaders. Moon and the narrator obviously decided many years ago to be owned and controlled by the oligarchs, billionaires and elites. Sachs, on the other hand, has decided to be the uncommon man, the man of virtues and the larger man who transcends the political and material goals of men. Sachs believes in a civilization and a world that supports the common good and public good for all mankind. Sachs is a follower of God and the others are followers of the Adversary. But, remember that although mankind is sinful, everyone can still achieve salvation and go to Heaven. Remember that Jesus, our Savior died for our sins, Remember that Buddha taught that He will help you to attain nirvana, bliss and enlightenment. Buddha stated that He will continue to help you to attain nirvana, bliss and enlightenment. Both Jesus and Buddha taught compassion, love, kindness, and forgiveness. Both Jesus and Buddha taught balance and harmony in the environment for the common good and public good. Sachs is our Uncommon man. Sachs is our Larger Man. Sachs is our icon, legend, titan and oracle who exceeds the ultimate.
齐家，治国，平天下。It took Mr Moon about 10 minutes to utter these six Chinese words. He not only has troubles with English, he has even more trouble with Chinese.
BK Moon doesn't evenn know the basic of Confucius when he stressed so much on a side being the evil. Confucius and other great philosopher of China like Lao Tzu, emphasis on the balanced views, like the Ying and the Yang. No one has the absolute wrong or right. Prof Sach is able to articulate the west breaking their own promises first and instigating the other side to react. No part of Confucius or Aristotle's teaching will support the West's aggression. So BK Moon failed his role miserably as Confucius.
The word country in Chinese is 國家 where 家 represents home or family. For Confucius, there would not be a country without a home or family. For a country to succeed, the homes or families must succeed first.
He is wrong, and his limited English made his discussion even worse. But he is still better than the moderator, he at least said that people should cooperate.
Terrible moderator. Asking leading questions, interrupting and interjecting as soon as the conversation isn't going where he wants it to. Good on Sachs keeping his cool and handling it so well.
I have always despised Roger Cohen, an ideologue who can only regurgitate the party line without being able to think independently.
A disgrace! It is of course no surprise that only parroting ideologues can work at NY Times.
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I can’t believe Ban KHIN Moon as a UN secretary is a bid Shallow . I am extremely disappointed with that man .
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I am from Taiwan. Ben Ki-Moon didn't take his role in the dialogue serious and talked like a true bureaucrat. They should have invited a philosophical professor from China for this role.
Jeffrey Sachs is brilliant as ever, and a true philosopher of unequaled courage.
This forum is, I think, funded by NY Times. So for sure, they won't have a Mainlander Chinese here, but instead will get a lackey like Mr Ban from South Korea
Moon is Prof. Sach's boss at the UN. New York Times used to be paper of record, how far it has fallen. Moon would never got the post if he doesn't toe US lines.
USA and UK have done a great job for India by Proxy war with Russia. Now Indian govt and Businesses have bargain power like China.
India will not purchase or import without Make in India program and IP hand over. G 7 is now Beggars 7.
All want Indian help and Indian market.
South Korea, Taiwan and Japan are eating Indian businesses. We want another Proxy by poking North Korea and China.
They will be destroyed and India will be great again.
Do this favour for India.
yep, I think they should invite Eric Li, would be more fun.
I agree with you.....from Malaysian Chinese
Jeffrey Sachs is my new hero. We need more people of his caliber to stand for the truth.
I went to high school in Oak Park, Michigan with him. He was very smart even then. He was a little guy always seen with a huge stack of books. Until now I've never seen a person consistently carry so many books.
@@allenmoses110 thanks for sharing this information. He is truly a remarkable and not afraid to speak truth. He is my hero as well.
He is my hero as well. He has done so much to help world poverty and promote world peace. He embodies what the UN aims to achieve.
Also, this entire "confucius vs aristotle" scenario is ridiculous. And the moderator is annoying and condescending.
He’s a lion.
@@GaneshGunaji What can we expect of people from the Western MSM? I had noticed quite a number of them who are like that, condescending.
A HUGE fan of Professor Sachs! A great man of honesty and integrity!
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Me too
Sachs is like a voice in the wilderness of US ignorance and belligerent conformity. He is the model of bravery and fortitude amidst the pressures of group think. We should strive to emulate him.
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Ironically; he is the only looking at the world as it is. For example:
He is the only calling out western hypocrisy while everyone else pretends that western powers are altruistic heroes who’s only objective is to save lives
He truly is.
Well said!!! 👏 👌 👍
Jim, by morphing your words into action you’ve just created a GROUP- with THE RIGHT THINKING, RIGHT TOUCH.
In that group though, there won’t be one single Jeff Sachs.
He’s not striving, he’s not on the way to become somebody else, who he admires.
He sees the world lacks respect, so he gifts the world with respect.
He sees the world lacking the honesty, so he finds the guts to be honest.
It’s as simple as that, and as blue as that.
Sachs doesn’t have a misunderstanding of Machiavelli. Machiavelli, or any other trickster, is not able to see the things as they are, they see the things as they want them to be. You can see it on anyone brainwashed with Western propaganda about democratic Ukraine, evil (stupid, terrible technology) Russia, etc
Pro. Sachs is a great scholar of today’s world! He deserves much respect as he stands for justice and truth, a man of integrity. By the way, Mr. “Korean” is no Confucius at all he is one of those politicians.
A US puppet from South Korea!
Jeffrey Sachs is brilliant and the moderator should not have disrupted his thought process when speaking.
Totally agree with you.
(moderator) He's protecting the flowing American narration
the moderator definitely revealed his bias, ah I see, this is sponsored by the NYT!
Sachs was beginning to say something about something that happened between the US-Russia-the Ukraine in 2008 and now we don’t know what that was.
@@johntravena119 Bush II called for NATO membership of Georgia & Ukraine
I love to hear from Dr Jeffrey Sachs speak. He is so wise and steady in answering questions. He should be UN Secretary General. I strongly believe he can bring peace to the world.
God bless him with good health.
We are so lucky to have Professor Sachs, a man of honesty, integrity and great intellect who tells us how it really is. The moderator on the other hand was a disgrace either not knowing the crucial indisputable factual position of NATO expansion as outlined by Dr Sachs or purposely lying, and producing leading questions, and annoyingly and for no useful purpose disrupting Dr Sachs. He should never moderate an intelligent discussion again.
He hijacked the forum.
One thing needed to be asked by everyone,
* Where did Confucius originated?
* Did Confucius taught his students that been occupied is a proud thing to have?
* Which states spread the Confucianism teaching to occupied Korea?
* What language did Confucius spoke? Mandarin or Korean?
Absolutely right 👏👍👍
This Athens series shows what kind of jerk the NY Times is. Fk the families who own it.
Confucius is a great sage of China. They should ask a Chinese philosopher to talk about Confucius teaching and not a Korean statesman who knew little about Confucius.
The moderator is rude.
Jeff Sachs is not a professor for nothing, his wisdom and virtue is a light to the world.
Amazing speech and he speaks so much with wisdom. We need more people like him
sachs is morally bankrupt. his appeasement plays into the hand of fascists like the russian siloviki.
Its shameful that the moderator brought up Ukraine and NOT brought up Iraq or Afghanistan. Ban KeeMoon also should be ashamed to only condemn Russia without condemning US , Britain and EU.
Confucious had always regarded fairness as a cornerstone of his philosiphy...afterall where can there be ANY relationship without this fairness. Politeness, courtesy, which are Confucian values, demands a sense of FAIRNESS in an exchange of views!!!
The moderator was trying to sway the conversation to a Western advantage and does not deserve to be there....shame on him too!!!
Can not agree more.
B Ki Moon was the secretary of the UN when US led Nato was aggressively invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. And the ongoing genocide in Palestine. He's never condemned any of these crimes against humanity.
This talk is a theoretical.
Prof. Jeffrey Sachs is trying to be an intellectual and polite.
The mediator is acting like a child.
We both came to the same conclusion without knowing our thoughts.
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Bang Ki Moon is unfit to talk about Confucionism because he does not practised Confucionism. His pro-West stand totally goes against Confucion beliefs on Fair-play and the possesion of having virtue.
Maybe because he is Korean he cannot understand Mandarin Classics in which Confucionism Philosophy is written.
The Organisers are so Anti-China that they cannot bring in a Chinese scholar to represent Confucious!
This shows how "objective" they are about solving World issues! It was all a show to protray a pro-Western ideology and even then they failed....because Jeffery Sachs was the only person, the true leader, there who was determined to send a true message to the World.
Shame on the moderator and Shame on Bang KiMoon!!!
Question is Since when Confucius originated from occupied Korea??
To be fair, its a democracy "mob rule" forum as explained by Sachs. So we have to temper our expectations.
thank you professor Sachs for your courage to speak the truth in a world of madness!
Ban’s bread is buttered in d western system. He’s no Confucian.
Mr Sachs is a lion. Whether Greek or Chinese, bravery is respected. Bravo, Mr Sachs. Bravo!
Everyone need to ask himself,
Did Confucius speaks Korean, born in occupied Korea, eat an occupied Korea food, grew up in occupied Korea, and taught in occupied Korea school??????
@@miguellines5907 Ban played Uncle Tom very well, but I did not see any Confucius in him.
Ban talks about an event and condemns Russia
Sachs points to the broken promises that led to the event
I agree with Sachs
@@miguellines5907 it is obvious! The West cannot put a Chinese true-blue Confucius up there, could they?
Would they?
It is an insult to Confucian.
Don't interrupt him when he's speaking the truth! We're sick of the lies! Jeffrey Sachs is loved by the people for being brave and wise enough to say the truth outloud, it's about time this world faces the truth and start doing something about it!
Ban Ki Moon knows nothing about Confucius.
Dr Sachs is a national treasure! Protect him. Appreciate him.
The idea of having this Korean and this moderator ruined the debate, but of course, it’s a propaganda masked under a “free” debate. Prof. Sachs, on the other hand, showed so much wisdom and intelligence, bravo!
Intentional Propaganda funded by USAID and NED to fools more westerners because currently the brainwash strategy has not yet reach 100% rates.
This Athens series shows what kind of jerk the NY Times is. Fk the families who own it.
I am from Taiwan, and I totally agree with you. Ben Ki-Moon didn't take his role in the dialogue serious and talked like a true bureaucrat. They should have invited a philosophical professor from China for this role.
Confusious is confused
@@joelockhart4128 the name Confucius is just the ridiculous Western name of the man named Konzi, Kong Qui. Nobody in East Asia calls him Confucius unless they are talking to an English speaker.
Jeffrey Sachs, HERO OF OUR TIME!!!
Very good dialogue..
I give a deep praise for Prof Sachs for his taught & wisdom 👏👏 👍👍
I think Sachs gets much better understanding of Confucius than Ban Kim Moon. Learning Confucius saying is the way to wisdom dealing with practical situation flexibily. Obviously, Sachs has this wisdom.
Deeply dissappointed with the wrong representative for Confucious. They probably didnt want a pro Western Chinese representative instead found a pro Western Korean to represent a Chinese sage. Professor Sachs understands and better represents Confucious. The moderator is definitely biased against Russia and China, seems very eager to jump in to interrupt when he is not happy with anti Western views.
That’s what exactly I’m thinking
Professor Sachs should be awarded Nobel Peace Prize!
Unfortunately Nobel prize is heavily politicized now
This professor deserves far more than a noble peace prize award. His ideas need to be studied at universities all over the world.❤
@Moni Penny Fully agree with you for that ! this award has been toally politicized !
Yes. He deserved it!!@
They'd rather give Nobel Pieces Price to Obama who dropped bombs all over the Middle East, bombing innocent civilians into pieces
Mr. Ban Ki Moon is a politician, absolutely not Confucius! His way of thinking IS the problem of today. I am actually rather surprised how shallow and close minded his thinking is considering the position he held. Dr. Sacks has true understanding of the spirit of Aristocracy and Confucius. I wonder how many people today want to listen to him. The virtues of moderation and wisdom have been forgotten. Instead we choose extremes and so called “bravery”. This tendency does NOT encourage us to live together but to die together!
B Ki Moon was the secretary of the UN when US led Nato was aggressively invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. And the ongoing genocide in Palestine. He's never condemned any of these crimes against humanity.
This talk is a theoretical.
Prof. Jeffrey Sachs is trying to be an intellectual and polite.
The mediator is acting like a child.
well said thank you
How can an occupied Korean become a Confucius that originated in China not Korea ??
And even Chinese scholars Zhang Weiwei is not a proper Confucius because China is not an occupied states. 😂😂
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Agree. The former UN Secretary General is definitely not Confucius, but a true-blue politician catering to the ears of the popular narratives of the Western host.
@@edwardmeow9454 So, basically Confu-Ki-Moon was actually Uncle Tom all along.
Jeff Sachs thank you, you wear the title of erudite teacher and righteous peacemaker handsomely. How I wish more Americans are like you!
What great logic and superb intellect Dr Sachs displayed. The moderator appeared not to like his views.I truly respect Dr Sachs’ courage and balanced views and hopefully more and more people will get his message.
Nah the moderator was doing his job, the moderator actually helped Sachs be convincing by giving him hard questions, but he couldn't do this with Konzi since he doesn't really understand Konzi.
Jeffrey Sachs …thank you for showing us what leadership should look like. Thank you taking such personal risks - it’s a rare treat to see integrity now a days.
Totally agree!
What a wise man is Prof. Jeffrey Sachs! So sad for uncle Ban to be a puppet. The moderator is even not to comment...
Jeffrey D. Sachs is the best student of both school of thought (today) !!! RESPECT !!!
Mr Ban Ki Moon is not representing confucious thinking at all and less of confuvious virtues with regard to the current world situation. Jeffry Sachs on the other hand is always very clear and powerful in all his exposures. He is the true thinker in this difficult time...
No he does not. Confucius lived in a time when China was in the greatest turmoil when warlords were fighting against one another. If the approach were to get all other warlords together to condemn the invading warlord he won't have got very far
he is Korean, US troops permanently in his homeland, wadaya expect?
Confucius is done a great disfavour
Betul sekali 🙏👍
Yeah. He does not represent Confucius. Truly disappointed with his approach. And it appears to me that he lack the courage to speak out in the face of his Western host and audience. I give my full respect to Prof Sachs for his courage to speak out in the face of the popular Western narratives.
Bravo! De Sacha! You are my hero. Finally someone can speak like you!!!!!!! Thank you from my bottom of my heart ❤️ thanks 🙏 hope
Forget Ban. It's a forum between Jeff and NYT.
Yes.
This is Confucius quote “to put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order, to put the family in order, we must first cultivate our personal life; we must first set our hearts right”
Thanks
Thank you for sharing…that makes so much more sense
Those were the words of his most famous studen Meng Zi 孟子。
@@richardlee9207 Mengzi wasn’t a direct student of Confucius, same sect of philosophy though
Exactly, this Korean is misinterpreted
Moon never impressed when he was in office. He failed again tonight! 😢 Sachs’s on the other hand shone liked a beacon of truth & fact.
I agree. Ban is just continuing what he has been doing in UN, pushing the western agenda.
Moon is not the sharpest knife in the drawer for sure
A big big salute to Jeffrey Sachs. Love from Malaysia
Wasn't Ban Ki Moon secretary-general when France and NATO members violated the UN charter in Libya?
YES. And he still said a word about it. Let alone condemnation.
He became the secretary because the West put him there.
He is a puppet and small thinker.
Yep.
This is the biggest problem with the UN and as UN Secretary General he is a disgrace
Jeffrey Sachs is simply brilliant! Ban Ki Moon, on the other hand, spoke as Ban Ki Moon with the same tiresome narrative.
Sachs is both candid and brave. No doubt he will become persona non grata among the media monopoly for these qualities.
Bloomberg recently cut him off in the middle of an interview
He already is already persona non grata , not a single mainstream media smaller or bigger talk to him, how many journalists mentioned him, only few channels on you tube, the numbers of viewers are small it's not enough, people have no interest in what he wants to say, he needs big big audience, can be you tube but big, maybe @joerogan could host Jeffery
19:30 Mobster-interruptions...
I salute Prof. Sachs for his wisdom and balanced views of geopolitics.
Zelenskyy is also a forum speaker this year. It’s no wonder the host is extremely irritated by Aristotle. This forum doesn’t want discussion, it wants absolute condemnation. Aristotle gracefully explained a view not often given in the New York Times- balance- in an effort for peace.
Zelensky should not even be here
Aren’t the host is expected to be respectful and impartial…?🤣 I don’t find this one competent…
I agree. This moderator is an idiot. The New York is just another bias Western media who do blind reporting, with no logical sense, and narrow minded. More and more Americans’ mind are going downhill. Most of them are liberal artists. When I was an Engineering graduate student, 90% of the students were foreigners. You need logic to be good in Engineering, not emotion.
He is just an actor under USA control.
Aristotle did a better being Confucius than Ban, Ban completely ruined the great Chinese philosopher’s work
Wow, Prof. Sachs is so truth seeking, forthright yet with a kind heart for the world!
Jeffrey Sachs rocks!
We desperately need more people like Jeffrey Sachs. So excellent with his narrative.
Mr Sachs left Mr Moon in the dust. From what I understand of Aristotelian thought and Confucian philosophy, Mr Sachs came away from this discourse as the true hero.
Professor Jeffrey Sachs telling the Truth to the World!
Another powerful narration by Dr. Sachs. You do justice to Aristotle and Confucius. They will be pride of you if they got a chance to hear you.
Prof J Sachs’ in-depth knowledge, even temperament and clarity shines through again. This wise leader’s message needs much more exposure to all ppl in this distracted world. Would give anything to help achieve that forum and spread light & strive for peace.
what a disservice to the great Chinese sage to let this western puppet speak for him
i.e. Ban Ki Moon
Congratulations Mr. Sachs, you are brave and wise. In contrast, the moderator is the worst we could see in such an event.
The moderator's worse than a 5 yr old
The Aristotle here understands Confuciusnism better than the Confucius here.
Welp, Jeffrey Sachs has two perspectives, while the "Confucius" has one.
Silence is golden… :)
Both are good, it’s definitely not about one is better.
What more can u expect from someone who was promoted to the top for being a good servant and ass kisser instead of his own merits? & why is it 2 old men in the 21st century? Any well educated Korean (or dare we say better mainland Chinese) university student, male or female, can probably represent Confucius better than this cowardly administrator
Confu-Ki-Moon took the perspective of Uncle Tom instead.
The final exchange between the moderator and Schas revealed how shallow the moderator is and how insightful Schas is. The political philosophy and human decency are in stark contrast in this instance.
I have always despised Roger Cohen, an ideologue who can only regurgitate the party line without being able to think independently.
A disgrace! It is of course no surprise that only parroting ideologues can work at NY Times.
Very well put. The contrast is palpable
What a brave and brilliant scholar Prof Sachs is. On the other hand, the moderator, what a jerk he is. Have no idea who he is. But he does appear to me to be a down to earth racist who happened to wear a suite moderator action
Roger Cohen is a “journalist”? At least the kind in NY. That tells the whole story!
Looks like Aristotle , was Confucius too in this dialogue
Love you Aristotle-Confucius!
Love and respect you Jeffrey Sachs!
Thank you everyone for this amazing dialogue!
It takes a special quality to utter the truth that many don't know and many more don't want to hear, even getting hostile when they hear it, and that's exactly what Sachs is doing here. He had to set the record straight about the US's and NATO's broken promises to Russia. But at the same time, he showed courtesy to the moderator who sadly had to interrupt in deference to his sponsor, the NYT. It's evidently clear to me who among the three here has learned and applied what he learned really well. Great respect for Prof Sachs.
The Ukraine should be settled by peaceful negotiation not militarily. The Ukrainian should be seen as canon fodder.
Correction; the Ukrainian shouldn’t be seen as canon fodders.
Nail it🥰Prof Sachs💯
I wonder how different America would be if they had a man like Jeffery as president.
Stop dreaming, Mo. American could never have a person of Sachs’ calibre as President. Even if he was able to negotiate the toxicity of the system to get through suspect primaries and was miraculously elected President by a thoughtful and mature electorate (which does not exist), he would be destroyed by the oligarchs and sycophantic media within hours of being inaugurated. Failing that, he would butt up against a sea of indifferent puke they call congress.
A case in point - Obama. Comes in on a white horse, wearing shiny armour. He is like manna from heaven, and definitely promises to solve all the world riddles quickly and efficiently. The regard for this person is so high, they anoint him with a Nobel prize for peace, in anticipation of future saintly deeds. What actually happens is history. He turns out to be just another figurehead, falling in line with the established norms. He lets down his race, his country and the rest of the world. Sure, he shoots baskets and eats apple pie, but he also becomes expert in shooting death-dealing drones, and eating up other people’s security and economies.
No, Jeffrey Sachs still has his fidelity and his integrity. It is something the he can never be stripped of, no matter how hard the establishment swill tries.
Jeffrey is fully right on virtues of confucius teaching.
Sachs is one of the greatest men of our generation!
Dr Jeffrey sachs pointed out the true picture,and brave to be stand out to tell the truth 👍👍👍
I'm so embarrassed by Ban Ki moon's performance as Confucius ... looks like he had skipped many classes he claimed his fellow Koreans were required to sit thru since youth ...
Apparently Mr.Moon is not a good student, I wonder if he ever passed the lesson of Conficius teaching.
i m forced to use confucius famous quote on mr ban, “rotten wood can’t be carved”
Well, maybe this is what they learn in Korea from the great Asian thinkers like Confucius and Lao tze and mencius... He can't even credit them as Chinese...
thank you Professor Sachs for speaking up
I used to think American (NATO) foreign policy was evil, (still do), but I always believed American foreign policy didn't reflect true American values. I'm wrestling with that and am currently undecided but getting close to changing my mind.
In 1994 Tonya Harding (American figure skater) destroyed (broke her knee) Nancy Kerrigan because she couldn't win fairly. Was that an anomaly or is that how most Americans compete?
That's exactly what America is doing with Russia, Europe, China, and virtually every small country they deal with. If America can't compete, it destroys.
Everybody knows it and they silently support it. Remember when Pompeo bragged at a Texas A&M university that the CIA "we lie, we steal, we cheat,' ? Well that's not really news but what I found scary was how the entire audience laughed and applauded.
Americans seem to support cheating and lying and destroying anyone who might succeed.
Americans stopped their government in the Vietnam war. Why have Americans not stopped their government from the continuous regime change, invasions, sanctions, and proxy wars that kill and impoverish people every day?
So either America is not a democracy or the majority of Americans are as evil as the CIA and their foreign policy.
Master List of US Aggression
By William Blum
Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti *2004
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009 *
Libya 2011 *
Syria 2012
Ukraine 2014 *
Oh Yeah, Why does America need 863 military bases in 183 countries for "defense" the hypocrisy is mind boggling.
问什么你的留言能存在，我的却很多被清除呢？
My new hero is Jeffrey Sachs . He is par excellence. Good luck to him.
A proclaimed Confucius politician talks like a politician. Kudos to Jeffrey Sachs, clearly he understands both Aristotle and Confucius as well. We do not need to waste our life fighting with each other, we can reach out to each other to make this world better and promising.
very true
The difference between a scholar and a bureaucrat + politician
Dr. Jeffrey Sachs, wow! So damn good. Enjoy so much from watching your speech, as always.
wow! Jeffrey Sachs is amazing, we need some politician and business leaders like him.
Jeffrey Sacks is always give us real food for thoughts on geopolitics in a truthful and a balanced manner.
No doubts, Pr. Sachs has the most wise clear intelligent thought. The westerners, especially thier leaders should listen to his speach. He should be awarded Nobel Peace Prize
Prof Sachs never beats about the bush, always right at the point.
Thank you Dr Sachs, you represent Aristotle and Confucius brilliantly. Our world is hopeful to have people like you who speak courageously for social justice, against all odds.
Ban is not qualified to speak at the forum. He missed it completely
He messed it up
Mr.Sachs you an excel and thinker I wish more people like you should stand up to the warmongers.
So good to hear Jeffrey Sachs' logic. He should be awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace.
B K Moon is a small thinker. Ladies and gentlemen, he represents the officials of the world. And that is why we are in a bad shape.
You are kind to use the word "thinker"; it may be more correct to say he is a small "mind".
Exactly, well said
Korea is an American establishment vassal.
@@amossutandi South Korea.
Much respect to Mr Sachs, I wish I was a student of such a great and broadminded person; maybe in the next life.
Ban Kim moon is a embarrassed to Confucius.He doesn't have a fair and balance view when comes to geo politics.
I am amazed by prof. Jeffrey Sachs ethics and moral and honest courage to speak the truth. Simply love you ❤. We need people like you.
Sachs nailed it again as always. He just side-lined Ban in a wink
Ban is a windbag.
Ban is from South Korean. Confucius is ancient Chinese philosopher. Ban doesn't know much about Confucius philosophy. Replace Ban with a Chinese scholar.
@@kwokholuk8723 Ban doesn't even understand the question he is being asked and giving the typical virtual signal of a politician, but offers no real solution for the future or learning from the past.
When Ban heard Aristotle first talk HE got a equivalent of being hit by a truck... and he never recovered... he couldn’t bring himself to argue Aristotle because he knew he had no come back!
@@kwokholuk8723 Korea was a recipient of Confucian philosophy. By your logic we should replace Sachs with a Greek man.
Got goosebumps while listen to Jeffrey Sachs speak. Amazing person.
Prof. Zhang Weiwei (or even Eric Li) would have been a more appropriate and better choice as Confucius.
That is what I think too.
Don't you know the words of BIAS and DOUBLE STANDARD ala Anglo-Saxon??
Indeed. I'd recommend Mr Zhang too, but instead we get an Uncle Ban Ki-Tom.
The event is in association with NYT, what do you expect, I am surprised though that they put Prof. Sachs. Who has strong words for Western cultures.
Prof Jeffrey Sachs did it amazingly. Straight forward and easy to understand . that's the best teacher. Teacher that made his pupils understand on all his lessons .
Mr moon is lost on the war in Ukraine mr sachs explained it perfectly 👍🏼
Professor Sachs is all class!
Jeffrey represents Aristotle and Confucius brilliantly. Ban on the other hand...failed.
Agree
Nah, Mr Ban did brilliantly... in representing Uncle Tom.
Ban is from South Korea. Confucius is ancient Chinese philosopher (551 B.C.一479 B.C.) Ban doesn't know much about Confucianism. Replace Ban with a Chinese scholar.
Fully agree...
Sachs is an oracle, icon, legend, titan and unicorn.
Sachs is an Uncommon Man.
Sachs is the Larger Man.
Sachs exceeds the ultimate.
Sachs understands and sees the truths and virtues required to achieve the balance and harmony in the environment and the world.
Sachs is not controlled and/or managed by the oligarchs, billionaires and elites.
Sachs has more freedom to express the truths and virtues which will improve the world because he is not being influenced and funded by the political and financial leaders.
Moon and the narrator, on the other hand, are definitely pawns and/or puppets who are being influenced, funded, manipulated and controlled by the super powerful political and wealthy financial leaders.
Moon and the narrator obviously decided many years ago to be owned and controlled by the oligarchs, billionaires and elites.
Sachs, on the other hand, has decided to be the uncommon man, the man of virtues and the larger man who transcends the political and material goals of men.
Sachs believes in a civilization and a world that supports the common good and public good for all mankind.
Sachs is a follower of God and the others are followers of the Adversary.
But, remember that although mankind is sinful, everyone can still achieve salvation and go to Heaven.
Remember that Jesus, our Savior died for our sins,
Remember that Buddha taught that He will help you to attain nirvana, bliss and enlightenment.
Buddha stated that He will continue to help you to attain nirvana, bliss and enlightenment.
Both Jesus and Buddha taught compassion, love, kindness, and forgiveness.
Both Jesus and Buddha taught balance and harmony in the environment for the common good and public good.
Sachs is our Uncommon man.
Sachs is our Larger Man.
Sachs is our icon, legend, titan and oracle who exceeds the ultimate.
Professor Sachs keep up the good work
Professor Jeffery is sooo brilliant.He tells the truth about Confusius.. 👍👍👏👏
There is no Confucius here...
Yep. No Confucius to see. Only an Uncle Tom.
Prof Sachs probably was both aristotle and confucious
Professor Sach understands more about Confucius than the old aged Moon...
The world esp America needs more people such as Jeffrey Sachs!
齐家，治国，平天下。It took Mr Moon about 10 minutes to utter these six Chinese words. He not only has troubles with English, he has even more trouble with Chinese.
BK Moon doesn't evenn know the basic of Confucius when he stressed so much on a side being the evil. Confucius and other great philosopher of China like Lao Tzu, emphasis on the balanced views, like the Ying and the Yang. No one has the absolute wrong or right. Prof Sach is able to articulate the west breaking their own promises first and instigating the other side to react. No part of Confucius or Aristotle's teaching will support the West's aggression. So BK Moon failed his role miserably as Confucius.
Moon is not only a Franco-phony, he is also a Sino-phony.
Ban shows himself to be thoroughly brainwashed and he is no Confucius!
Jeffry Sachs speaks truth and above all have the decency and courage to say it. He has earned a nobel prize.
I'm also very curious about the claim that Mr Ban Ki Moon could represent confucious thinking. It's a disaster.
The word country in Chinese is 國家 where 家 represents home or family. For Confucius, there would not be a country without a home or family. For a country to succeed, the homes or families must succeed first.
Takes great courage to speak truth as Prof. Sachs has here. Kudos to him. Host is either playing the devil's advocate is indeed a follower of ...
A follower of ... Western domination theory.
Bank Ki-moon has the wonderful gift of speaking a lot about nothing.
that is why he had that post
He is wrong, and his limited English made his discussion even worse. But he is still better than the moderator, he at least said that people should cooperate.
"Neutrality is not an option" -Ban ki moon
Corrupt...
Kudos to Jeffery Saches
Mr sachs is the man 👍🏼
Way to go Jeffrey 🙏 hypocritical times we live in .
Thanks Confucius Jeffrey Sachs!
The only person with wisdom here is Professor Sachs
The lack of any wisdom on the part of Ban Ki Moon and the moderator is highly regrettable