Lets keep the prog theme going since they all have god tier bass tone. Chris Squire, John Myung, Rodger Waters, Greg Lake (or any King Crimson bassist).
and they got thier sound from John Entwistle who brought the bass world the ROTTOSOUND Round Wounds Listen to Entwistles live sound back in 69 using 200 Watt HIWATTS with four 15 cabs
You had me at John Myung! Even though he’s my ALLTIME favorite bass player next to Ryan Martinie Myung’s bass tone isn’t my favorite 😍 n the early years with his Jazz bass yes, and in 6 degrees it was awesome too
Played two gigs this weekend with my Jbass and Zoom with your exact settings and loved the sound! I even named the patch "Geddy". It will now be my go-to sound. Thanks so much!
Geddy is another good example of how tone begins in the fingers like many of the other players you’ve covered in the series. You cover a lot of the groundwork before you even get to specific gear. Great video and great playing, yet again!
This is a treasure trove of information. Thanks so much! You singlehandedly sold me on the B1 Four. I am a guitarist and own the G1 Four but love to seek tone from specific players and love to pick up my bass every once in a while. This video will help a TON!
@@unknown-nj3kt - I don’t use it much anymore since finding 2 specific pedals that fit my needs as a lead bassist in a hard rock duo (no guitarist). This guy’s video reminded me once again of the versatility of the B1 Four. I may find some new sound uses for it down the road. I sometimes read about how some guys regret selling pedals they didn’t think they needed anymore, and I wouldn’t want to have the same regret.
Excellent job on the zoom pedal, the sound that you got is very good, I am planning getting this for home practising. BTW, Geddy's signature Tech21 DI2112 pedal is bi-amping, having two distinct outputs for lows and highs, which can also be combined at post level to a single output. IMHO his pedal is the best sounding Tech21 bass pedal - they all sound very very good anyway...
7:00 Actually, that's pretty much exactly what he does. If you look on the rack mounts he uses it's basically a thick low end channel pre-EQ'd to his person settings that he pretty much goes dirty with and uses the main drive channel to have a cleaner boost. Gives a nice, rounded bottom, and a very agro top end.
I am 10 dollars away from getting a zoom pedal, trying to get gettys tone without a jazz bass is a challenge but with this I can finally fulfill my dreams of having Getty tone.
If remember, Geddy Lee has most of his bass all wired in stereo and split in two channels to control the sound in each pickup. In the early day, he would have them split into a preamp and out to the mixing board and the other to an amp that would be mic up to.
My late Buddy and I got into RUSH around 1976 and boy, I thought that we came in late. I think we got see them live in 1979? Maybe a year earlier…. I just didn’t think they would have so successful and stay together for so long!
You know, I often hear people say tone is in the fingers, however I believe that is only partially true. Geddy's tone from early albums through the Signals album went away when he switched to a Steinberger bass and Terry Brown was no longer the producer. The bass on the Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows, and Hold Your Fire albums was very thin and flat, his style was there but the tone went away.
Correct...a combo of gear&technique...I've seen guys throw mucho money on gear but their technique was crap..so they sounded like... I had the good fortune of poor so I had to learn how to get toned from finger attack,placement btwn bridge & neck etc etc ...I recommend starting with basic gear & minimal effects first and then add effects after you hv a good grasp of what you can do with just bass & hands
I've got the B3 and until now I've just used it for the occasional single effect (although I use the tuner and mute functions a lot). This series has made me look at how I can use it more effectively, not so much as "sound likes" but best combination of sounds to compliment each other
The setup is very good, but you can still see that the secret is to work with medium high and leave an attack on the compressor. I managed to do something similar and it turned out really well. Thanks a lot for the tips
Great video! I taught myself to play bass back in high school by listening to Geddy Lee, and here's a secret tip for getting that aggressive plucking style… try playing along *without an amp*. That's how I did it. :P
holy shit dude, you just made my whole life, i have a zoom b1xFour and been struggling so much to make tones out of god bassists, if u could go with geezer, flea and so on i would shit myself! GODBLESS YOU
I have his SansAmp DI-2112 pedal. I can dail his tone even on my fretless. Nice tone on a pedal that I never would've considered. How about a video on Peter Hook heavy chorus tone?
I used to hate Rush when I was a kid and heard “Fly by night” I couldn’t stand that song or Geddys voice then fast forward to growing up and being a bass player and learning about Geddy now I love rush and that song
Great playing, sounds as close as imaginable. Some personal gear nerdiness: I've had Vox ToneLabs since they came out for my guitars. Sound awesome for the money but they don't last forever. Three days ago, I thought my current ST bit the dust and got another coming for $110. It's fine, bad cable end as it turns out. I'm primarily a bassist but have never played a bass through one in over 15 years (due to an atypical lack of imagination). Looks like the move is to dedicate it to the bass rig. You get amazing mileage out of yours. But it's ALL in the fingers. Sigh.
I was lucky enough to see the R30 tour, and my takeaway was that you need murder in your heart and years of finger strength training in order to address the strings correctly. However hard you are hitting, he will be hitting harder than that for the entire show - I can't imagine how hard the skin must be on his fingers. The harder I hit my 4001 the more it sounds like Geddy. Still working out which tumble dryer sounds best.
Imho, best bass tone ever is Dennis Dunaway in the early Alice Cooper stuff. I got close to it back in the 70s with my 4001, an Acoustic head, and a couple SVT cabinets.
I didn't know he started with a P-bass but I've seen him use one later on in his career. Yes, his bass playing and vocals are amazing but how do so many people listing off his roles seem to leave out his awesome synth playing with both his hands and feet? I know this video mentions it later but still, I'd love to see it recognized more as he got me into Minimoogs and analog synth in general.
Curious if you could cover Geddy’s bass sound from Power Windows, which is a bit different from this classic sound of Geddy that you cover here. Territories, etc.
The B1x4 amp models are pretty useless because they dont seem to overdrive no matter how much gain you wind into them, even the SVT model wont overdrive at all. The sansamp and darkglass emulations are spot on though so you still get great OD tones using these. BTW would have been nice to know the exact compressor model and settings you were using.
I bought the new Tech 21 'VT BASS DI sans amp SVT Head and Cab emulator, i can use it with pretty much any amp or power amp and get that sound. Best $400 ive spent in years, cheaper than the rarck mounted Sansamp
You should try to replicate Michael Shuman's tone next, ive tried rly hard with different fuzz and distortion pedals but i could never do it quite like him
It would be nice if you would write in the video notes -- the exact Zoom effects patch and settings of each one in the chain. For example, in the middle you mentioned "PBDI" and I have no idea what that is.
You just dismissed all his tones in multiple iconic albums throughout the 80s as "briefly experimenting with other basses such as Wal and Steinberger". lol...
Great vid Andrew! Do you know if B1 Four is compatible with isolated power supplies such as Voodoo Lab's? I was considering purchasing one to use in series with a few distortion pedals I own. I would use the B1 Four just for modulation and maybe amp simulation, but not sure if this 9V outputs from isolated power supplies would be compatible with it...
@@ampthebassplayer I just bought one myself last month (it's a Brazilian one from the 60s) and put flats on it. Got a nice growl and some subtle saturation out of the box, but that's as far as I got
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Insert the Rush riff you were expecting and didn't get here.
You covered all the essential ones
Any part of La Villa Strangiato would have been nice. Not just because it’s my favorite Rush song either. 😉
The opening of Cygnus X-1
Freewill!
@@freddiesoverbite6162 It's what convinced me to play. My bandmates knew what to tempt me with.
Lets keep the prog theme going since they all have god tier bass tone. Chris Squire, John Myung, Rodger Waters, Greg Lake (or any King Crimson bassist).
John Wetton!!
Yeeess!!!
and they got thier sound from John Entwistle who brought the bass world the ROTTOSOUND Round Wounds
Listen to Entwistles live sound back in 69 using 200 Watt HIWATTS with four 15 cabs
Chris Squire's bass tone is half the reason I started playing bass again :)
You had me at John Myung! Even though he’s my ALLTIME favorite bass player next to Ryan Martinie Myung’s bass tone isn’t my favorite 😍 n the early years with his Jazz bass yes, and in 6 degrees it was awesome too
Played two gigs this weekend with my Jbass and Zoom with your exact settings and loved the sound! I even named the patch "Geddy". It will now be my go-to sound. Thanks so much!
Right on! It makes so happy that you’re getting some use out of it!
Geddy is another good example of how tone begins in the fingers like many of the other players you’ve covered in the series. You cover a lot of the groundwork before you even get to specific gear. Great video and great playing, yet again!
just as mr Sklar said as he explains how to use the "producer switch" hahaa
Love these videos with the B1xFour! Keep them coming!!
You've sold me on the Zoom B1X Four! Ordered one today! Thanks for the excellent video!
That’s awesome! Enjoy it! It does a lot of stuff really well!
I've been a Rush fan for more than 40 years, and I'm not sure I've ever seen a picture of Geddy playing a P-bass...UNTIL TODAY. Great video!
We need more of this, as a Beginner its just interesting how you try to achieve the Sound with Budget Gear
Geddy Lee's tone specifically in the song Clockwork Angels is possibly the meanest his tone has ever been, certainly on a record.
This is a treasure trove of information. Thanks so much! You singlehandedly sold me on the B1 Four. I am a guitarist and own the G1 Four but love to seek tone from specific players and love to pick up my bass every once in a while. This video will help a TON!
Upload the bass modules onto your G1Four
My favorite sound of his still is the Wal Mk1.
geezer butler's tone on 13, black sabbath's last album, would be chef's kiss
Bravo from a 40 year Rush fan 👍🏼
Just when I was considering selling my Zoom B1 Four unit!
Don't!
Why did you want to sell it? I have preamp, comp and tuner setup and I'm planning to change them for B1 Four.
@@unknown-nj3kt - I don’t use it much anymore since finding 2 specific pedals that fit my needs as a lead bassist in a hard rock duo (no guitarist). This guy’s video reminded me once again of the versatility of the B1 Four. I may find some new sound uses for it down the road. I sometimes read about how some guys regret selling pedals they didn’t think they needed anymore, and I wouldn’t want to have the same regret.
Thanks, really helpful!
Excellent job on the zoom pedal, the sound that you got is very good, I am planning getting this for home practising. BTW, Geddy's signature Tech21 DI2112 pedal is bi-amping, having two distinct outputs for lows and highs, which can also be combined at post level to a single output. IMHO his pedal is the best sounding Tech21 bass pedal - they all sound very very good anyway...
7:00 Actually, that's pretty much exactly what he does. If you look on the rack mounts he uses it's basically a thick low end channel pre-EQ'd to his person settings that he pretty much goes dirty with and uses the main drive channel to have a cleaner boost. Gives a nice, rounded bottom, and a very agro top end.
Best of both worlds for sure!
he also used an avalon tube di for an ultra clean sound. he had 3 or 4 signals that their FOH engineer blended depending on the song
I am 10 dollars away from getting a zoom pedal, trying to get gettys tone without a jazz bass is a challenge but with this I can finally fulfill my dreams of having Getty tone.
Getty?
If remember, Geddy Lee has most of his bass all wired in stereo and split in two channels to control the sound in each pickup. In the early day, he would have them split into a preamp and out to the mixing board and the other to an amp that would be mic up to.
Thanks so much for this! I just uploaded a short using your patch, you rock man 🔥💪🏽
Hell yeah!
What about an episode "How to sound like J.J. Burnel (of the Stranglers)"? I think his bass tone especially from the first three albums is epic!
Love you channel mate. Your knowledge it's class and your presentation is funny as
Awesome lesson thank you!
Love this videos!! Really helpful!! Yesterday i bought my own zoom b1x four. I'm ready to explore!
Great video!
Im pretty sure his old live sound was achieved by using the ric-o sound to put overdrive on the bridge pickup and clean on the neck
My late Buddy and I got into RUSH around 1976 and boy, I thought that we came in late. I think we got see them live in 1979? Maybe a year earlier…. I just didn’t think they would have so successful and stay together for so long!
Well done!
I'd love to see a video on Mick Karn or Les Claypool sometime!
Very cool your video! I get good results using the Sanzamp Tech 21 Bass Drive pedal.
Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷
I've got that box....it's pretty cool. Thanks for this video.
i will get that pedal someday, looks very cool, maybe ill wait till Christmas... it will also be my first pedal
It’s a fantastic first pedal to have!
You know, I often hear people say tone is in the fingers, however I believe that is only partially true. Geddy's tone from early albums through the Signals album went away when he switched to a Steinberger bass and Terry Brown was no longer the producer. The bass on the Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows, and Hold Your Fire albums was very thin and flat, his style was there but the tone went away.
Correct...a combo of gear&technique...I've seen guys throw mucho money on gear but their technique was crap..so they sounded like... I had the good fortune of poor so I had to learn how to get toned from finger attack,placement btwn bridge & neck etc etc ...I recommend starting with basic gear & minimal effects first and then add effects after you hv a good grasp of what you can do with just bass & hands
I've got the B3 and until now I've just used it for the occasional single effect (although I use the tuner and mute functions a lot). This series has made me look at how I can use it more effectively, not so much as "sound likes" but best combination of sounds to compliment each other
That’s perfect! Exactly what I hoped would come of these videos.
You are really good! You could do a Black Sabbath "Geezer Butler" bass player patch?
Excelent analisys! Congrats!!!
The setup is very good, but you can still see that the secret is to work with medium high and leave an attack on the compressor. I managed to do something similar and it turned out really well. Thanks a lot for the tips
Your Fly By Night sound was excellent.
Very nice, thanks !
Excellent review!
NAILED IT
Am I one of the few people that loved Geddy’s Steinberger tone one the Grace Under Pressure and (a couple songs) off of Signals?
It's a gorgeous tone. The Body Electric and Red Lenses
Yup, great tone!
Great video! I taught myself to play bass back in high school by listening to Geddy Lee, and here's a secret tip for getting that aggressive plucking style… try playing along *without an amp*. That's how I did it. :P
You need to see the bass in Rush In Rio! Mannn… that effect that Lee used was the best
lets not forget about the Rick-O-Sound....that's your Geddy Lee, Chris Squire sound.....
Correction; the Orange amp came into his signal chain long after he “went ampless”.
holy shit dude, you just made my whole life, i have a zoom b1xFour and been struggling so much to make tones out of god bassists, if u could go with geezer, flea and so on i would shit myself! GODBLESS YOU
You had better get yourself a new pair of paints: ruclips.net/p/PLmM96RdJB4RYpMnnlBFYhFTulYSsNyZm3&si=GsBHnEsz2-nHahaR
I have his SansAmp DI-2112 pedal. I can dail his tone even on my fretless. Nice tone on a pedal that I never would've considered. How about a video on Peter Hook heavy chorus tone?
Bass face in full effect!!!!!!!
I used to hate Rush when I was a kid and heard “Fly by night” I couldn’t stand that song or Geddys voice then fast forward to growing up and being a bass player and learning about Geddy now I love rush and that song
Do how to sound like jamiroquias bassist!
I would love to do that. Stu has been on my mind a lot lately so I will put him on the HTSL list!
I think maybe a chorus would help to get a most clean sound for the upper strings
Yeah, hemispheres era had lots of chorus as well as YYZ and Vital Signs
Impressive, man!!
Thanks. Wosh thwre was a place online to download these patches.
www.patreon.com/posts/62214089?
Hey nice vid, using Zoom too, would like to see vid on Rush Synth patches !!
Ha ha. Great job. Love that bass face.
Great playing, sounds as close as imaginable. Some personal gear nerdiness: I've had Vox ToneLabs since they came out for my guitars. Sound awesome for the money but they don't last forever. Three days ago, I thought my current ST bit the dust and got another coming for $110. It's fine, bad cable end as it turns out. I'm primarily a bassist but have never played a bass through one in over 15 years (due to an atypical lack of imagination). Looks like the move is to dedicate it to the bass rig. You get amazing mileage out of yours. But it's ALL in the fingers. Sigh.
Don’t forget he also played a Steinberger and a Wal over the years.
thanks for the motivation to play with the pedal, with this i can fusion the SVT o AG that i dont know it jiijji
Good info, it's pretty amazing what one can do with a cheap bass + cheap multi-FX unit these days.
I renamed the drivn clean channel on my zoom "Geddy Drive"
Geezer butlers tone on the b1x four maybe?
actually sounds pretty good
How does the Zoom get used in this process? Not sure if I missed it, but you didn't really explain that
Bass>Zoom>Audio Interface>empty track with no effects in Amplitube.
I was lucky enough to see the R30 tour, and my takeaway was that you need murder in your heart and years of finger strength training in order to address the strings correctly. However hard you are hitting, he will be hitting harder than that for the entire show - I can't imagine how hard the skin must be on his fingers. The harder I hit my 4001 the more it sounds like Geddy. Still working out which tumble dryer sounds best.
Imho, best bass tone ever is Dennis Dunaway in the early Alice Cooper stuff. I got close to it back in the 70s with my 4001, an Acoustic head, and a couple SVT cabinets.
John Entwistle- The bass tone on the album Live at Leads.
To sound Like Geddy you need a JB with 70's spacing and a very low action setup.
Interesting video, what about of the sound of early Grand Funk Railroad’ bassist Mel Schacher ????
BASSically, Geddy is the most dangerous bass player, EVER.
I remember hearing him say that he picked w his nails instead of the soft part of his fingers, sadly i dont remember what interview that was
You forgot he was also they keyboard player. And all at the same times. 😊
could you do a video on how to sound like Chris Squire? oh and i have a b1on zoom :)
Rick en BACK er.
parabens pelos videos ensina a montar os timbres nas pedaleira zoom
Chris squire would be very interesting to break down. DD Verni would be really cool as well.
I can’t find the bddi on my b1xfourzoom can u help me?
Its called the Bass DRV. Should be right between the Squeak and the D.I. Plus.
@@ampthebassplayer thank you so much!
Can we get a How to sound like Justin Chancellor with the Zoom B1X Four? :)
WOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must be a sorcerer🤨👌
I didn't know he started with a P-bass but I've seen him use one later on in his career. Yes, his bass playing and vocals are amazing but how do so many people listing off his roles seem to leave out his awesome synth playing with both his hands and feet? I know this video mentions it later but still, I'd love to see it recognized more as he got me into Minimoogs and analog synth in general.
Great video :) But what about the Wal tone?
Saving that one for the Justin Chancellor video 😉
Would you be able to share the Zoom B1Four settings for these tones?
0:30 what song is that xd
It was tricky with the ricky. Muahaha
Next, could you do Steve Harris?
Please could you emulate the sound of the bass player from Mutemath?
I will put him on my list! Someone on Instagram recommended Odd Soul to me a while ago and I instantly fell in love with that album.
@@ampthebassplayer it was me 😁😁
Would love to see that HTSL
Do Justin chancellor tone next
Curious if you could cover Geddy’s bass sound from Power Windows, which is a bit different from this classic sound of Geddy that you cover here. Territories, etc.
The B1x4 amp models are pretty useless because they dont seem to overdrive no matter how much gain you wind into them, even the SVT model wont overdrive at all. The sansamp and darkglass emulations are spot on though so you still get great OD tones using these. BTW would have been nice to know the exact compressor model and settings you were using.
I bought the new Tech 21 'VT BASS DI sans amp SVT Head and Cab emulator, i can use it with pretty much
any amp or power amp and get that sound. Best $400 ive spent in years, cheaper than the rarck mounted Sansamp
Can you do a sleep or doom metal setting plzzzz
Hi. Which compressor are you using?
Hall and Oates-Out of Touch all squier demo comin up soon?
sound like yourself! what do you consider your own sound? I would love to see that! cool! Thanks!
That sounds like a fun idea, actually!
You should try to replicate Michael Shuman's tone next, ive tried rly hard with different fuzz and distortion pedals but i could never do it quite like him
He’s on my list! We’ll definitely get to him at some point.
It would be nice if you would write in the video notes -- the exact Zoom effects patch and settings of each one in the chain. For example, in the middle you mentioned "PBDI" and I have no idea what that is.
You can see the full settings here: www.patreon.com/posts/how-to-sound-lee-62214089?Link&
You just dismissed all his tones in multiple iconic albums throughout the 80s as "briefly experimenting with other basses such as Wal and Steinberger". lol...
Great vid Andrew! Do you know if B1 Four is compatible with isolated power supplies such as Voodoo Lab's? I was considering purchasing one to use in series with a few distortion pedals I own. I would use the B1 Four just for modulation and maybe amp simulation, but not sure if this 9V outputs from isolated power supplies would be compatible with it...
Yes, it should work just fine with a standard 9v power supply. Thanks for watching!
@@ampthebassplayer awesome! thanks for the (amazingly) quick reply!
Sound like Jack Casady! Been trying to get his tone on the Zoom, but I just get lost and never get any close
I've really seriously been considering getting a semi-hollow recently. Might have to just for one video lol.
@@ampthebassplayer I just bought one myself last month (it's a Brazilian one from the 60s) and put flats on it. Got a nice growl and some subtle saturation out of the box, but that's as far as I got
Could you post it on Tonelib please, I urgently need that G Lee sound, thanks a million, friend.
I have it on my Patreon in both text format as well as a downloadable file.