8in Roller Lathe Work Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- As promised, this is the first part of the lathe work required to machine the 8" steel rollers I manufacture. This part will include indicating, facing, drilling, boring, and polishing. Second part to follow soon.
One of the first machining videos i watched when i started machining, i am now lead in lathe department, programmer programming with mastercam and setting up 5 axis
I'm not even remotely a machinist but somehow I was compelled to watch this entirely. I'm fascinated by the work you do!
Watching these is like watching old tv shows. Very enjoyable and cool to see how far he's come.
Takes me back over 40 years at the start of my apprenticeship, learning about halving the cut and micrometer maths in the head. Thanks for a lovely set of videos.
Hey Adam I have been watching your videos for a while now I have been working as a conventional and CNC lath VTL mill operator and programmer for 10 years. Every time I watch on of your videos I learn something. Just wanted you to know that your hard work is appreciated
Excellent work Abom. Sorry I'm only allowed to give you one thumbs up. You've taught me alot over the years.
I really enjoy watching your videos. As a certified welder for many years im considering doing an apprenticeship in machining. Great job man
Damn you Adam! Since I stumbled on your channel, I haven's gotten to bed before midnight! I was sitting in front of a lathe when I was 4. That was 61 years ago. Spent 10 years in the Navy doing this stuff. Then to a foundry machine shop. Have my own shop..CNC and all. LOVE your channel. Learn something new every night, keep up the good work.
Thank you man:D I went a job interview where i had to true a 1.5 m diameter workpiece in a four jaw chuck. I used the method what you use in your videos and they called me that day aftermoon when can i start. :D Sorry for my bad english i rarely practice it. Sincerely from hungary
Your a true craftsman.I've been machining over 30 years and still enjoy watching others techniques. Thanks for the videos
I have a similar but much smaller chuck on my wood lathe. This is exactly the instructions that I needed to set it up. Kudos Adam. Thanks love your channel. Keep up the great work.
This was the first video I watched on your channel, back in 2014, right on the time I started to work on the machines at the university for my thesis project. Naturally, these were like concentrated doses of "how to do things" and "what not to do". Thanks a lot for keep sharing your knowledge and experience :) and wish you all the the best. Hope to keep seeing more heavy-metal-machining in the years to come ^_^
I like your style, and can see that your camera work and editing just gets better over time. What I like best is how you tell us what you're going to do and then immediately demonstrate.
I've watched most, if not all, of your videos, and I haven't left wondering what you were doing or why you did it yet. My compliments.
nice work, learn something new every time I watch your videos.
thanks for your good work.
Richard
Inman, SC
Thanks Richard!!
I like the quiet way you explain what you do
I am glad I am not the only person scared of a major military exercise in the final cut. good on ya Adam
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As always Great Job Adam. Thank you for sharing. I almost want to say that it was a good switch that you've made from PM forum to you tube mostly because you post much more action. I'm zcapo from the PM, good to see you're well and working. God Bless my friend.
ccmfayz1 Nice to hear from you. Yea it sucks about the forum thing, but I mostly post updates on RUclips now. Too much social media to keep up with!
Hi, absolutely love your videos! I have been in the field for a few years now, but have recently taken an apprenticeship with a master machinist. Your videos have helped me learn so much, and I hope to hone my skills enough to maybe have my own channel. Thank you for the education :)
I enjoyed watching the curly chips those big drill bits make.. I have seen your other video on these rollers.. There is alot of machining to make them.. Watching this has taught me how I can make these on a smaller scale for small projects
As always, thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoy them! Glad to know there's some lessons in there for others.
Great video... don't know if you're open to tips but I use the face of the tailstock to help hold the stock's face true and it also allows me to adjust the amount to hold on to the jaws with ease. Shortens the face indicating time.
Excellent work, I like your videos. They are a serious learning resource for me as well as Little Tony. Keep up!
WTF half a million views and 1k thumbs up. Show some appreciation people. Great work Adam
Adding some videos to facebook as we speak......taking awhile due to slow cell phone connection......keep an eye out. Watching this motivated me!
Why not upload them on RUclips? I'll check them out though.
your awesome only experienced craftsman like yourself understands the importance of spring cuts
Great video Adam looking forward to pt2.
Four and Six jaw chucks RULE!! Threes are good, too, depending on what the task is. But, if you got a six, you can do ANYTHING. Colet Chuck, too. Awesome.
Great video. Reminds me of my old days in the Navy. Was a machinery repairman for 22 years. One destroyer tender and 3 sub tenders. My recommendation to you is not to use oil when you have coolant. This mixture causes a sludge in your sump that is a big problem when it's time to clean it out.
Been with you on the forums and now YOuTube. Great work bro. Man that lathe is smooth and quiet. Love the GoPro footage and love the fire trucks (real work, in a real shop). Looking forward to the next vid.
Thanks for joining me here on youtube, and the great comments. I'm glad your enjoying the videos.
Another great vid Abom. That Monarch is one sweet machine!!!
Gill
Thanks Gill! You know we love those Monarchs! Thanks for checking out the video!
I enjoyed in Adam, can't wait to see the final product.
Thanks Mark! Part 2 coming soon!
@@Abom79 thank you for being here Adam America is in short supply of men like you. I'm afraid by design we need to put up a fight to change that and I feel if you know it or not in your own way you're doing just that. you are a good boy Adam I dig the hell out of you. I can't watch too long this sort of thing makes me miss my dad really bad. you never stop missing them. he's the reason I caught the metal bug he gave it to me early on. I don't know how the hell you get up every morning and drag your but to that shop and not just fall to pieces. you are not just a big strong good boy but you are stronger in ways I'll never be I wish we were real friends, from what I've seen Adam you'd be one hell of an ally. may blessing's falls on you like rain.
Loved the work Adam, a real craftsman with experience.
You have been doing this for all these years and you are only NOW getting recognized? Wow.
Your presentations, even this far back, are mesmerizing!! You persevered! You and Abby are STARS!!
Hey, when is Tony comin' out with a new video? :-) I did discover him through you. Love You, Tony! :-)
Why the fuck did I watch this entire thing at 3:30 AM when I never intend to machine anything in my life.
+Ch0plol I understand man, I completely get it, it's fucking weird but hey...it's a feel good thing too :P lol
Ch0plol because for some reason men love this shit
simply because a Machinist is a breed unto their own. I hope to have 1/10th of the skill Adam has- Love this stuff
10pm ahh in bed early let me just watch a few....... 3am DAMMIT
Ch0plol
Because how the stuff in this world we take for granted is actually made is quite fascinating.
omg..I accidentally found a new favourite thing to watch :D
5:50 lol when you are indicating I never take my eyes off the gauge
there is something very satisfying about this type of work, I'm not sure exactly what it is, but it's similar to a sense of accomplishment I suppose, since you can see every little change and effect you have on something immediately, while you're working on it, instant gratification maybe, I don't know, but I know I like it, and it's cool :D
Adam you sure know your stuff, i like your videos, they are well made clear instructions and professional. from Bob in Seattle
Thank you Bob. I do try to include as much info as I can on what I'm doing during the machining process.
Loved those chip from the one drill. They were almost art! Great video Adam...
That was indeed art, the art of someone who can really sharpen a drill bit accurately! Perfectly even chips... Nice! ;o]
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Opinionator52 Thanks a bunch Opinionator!
Thanks Fred! Glad you enjoyed it.
I'm sory. My english very little. You are a master at about machinery.
Who's Your Daddy "Disc"?! Huh? Who's Your Daddy?! I got you Bored, "DISC"! (Machinist Jargon). ;-)
Yes, this is from TV, not my actual life. Just so you know. Adam is a Master! He removes the gauge with such skill.
Great video even though I do machine work everyday I still love to watch videos of it
Great vid. I am learning to use various lathes and am not qualified as such but i love the way that those machines make cutting through steel like its made of cheese. Cheers.
Wow, weight loss difference between then and now is incredible!
amazing indicating in facing excellent nice use of coolant super curlies from the shap drill 2 flute big one excellent comentary
Hi Adam and thanks for your videos. This type machine work has always fascinated me and you present information really well. I'm a retired maintenance pilot and was wondering about the maintenance of your equipment and how you know when it is required. That would make another very interesting video. Really enjoy your work! Thanks........... Idaho Joe
I noticed you said the swarf was pushing the boring bar away while machining with the WNMG tip. I find a TNMG tip bar gives slightly more clearance and eliminates that generally. Also running outwards on last couple of cuts helps. Nice vid and full of knowledge
That's a awesome lathe. Thanks. Jim.
SWEET! Chamfer boring bar...never seen just using the square end of the tooling...looked and went "huh"...then "duh" to myself...
Chuck, play close attention....I'm trying to help you out buddy!!
I often use the 45 degree end of my boring bars to chamfer. Just use a factory end of a tool, or one you have ground. I just happened to use it that way because thats how I already had the bar clamped in the tool holder. If it was set on the 90 side, I would have used a different type of tool bit, like a style D.
Thanks for watching, I always look forward to you comments!
Machining looks so beautiful it's like watching a wound get cleaned
Adam, you could sell those chips from that giant drill to bored housewives!
That was fantastic, thanks for posting. You create more swarf in an afternoon than I create in a month. Makes me want to get a bigger lathe : )
Which reminds me it's about time to clean out the chip pan!!
Just a thought Adam, a small inspection mirror on the side of your indicator would make the needle movement really visible for the camera and you could aim the face at you more so your not trying to angle for us. I know, I’m being needy. I’m just thinking you’d come up with a cool gadget and vid making it
Master of the LATHE!!!
half a thousandths sounds like a tight fit nice chamforing and polishing good job
Thanx for sharing. .. been doing this shit since My teen age years.... have a race /4x4 Custom shop today. .. love getting New inspiration ... keep up the good work ... see ya' again .... Cap
Nice job, finally a thread cut in steel
Since you indicated you make these often, measure the distance from the back of the part to the chuck. Cut some piece of material that is that thickness that you can remove between the jaws when final chucking is complete. Use masking tape to hold it loosely to the face of the chuck, smash the rear face to the spacer, and chuck it. remove the spacer and walla, no more face indicating!
I like the way you do things and I agree you've a natural gift for instruction. Being a rookie, I wonder if you've thought of a tray for the top of the lathe to hold tools and parts that can easily be removed. Perhaps stationed with rare-earth magnets. Would this be advantageous or a "No-No"? Thanks! JD
You have to increase the feed when boring and use coolant to wash the chips out. and winding back with out winding off the cut with a carbide tip will always damage the edge . I made carbide for 7 years and then i was a CNC TURNER FOR 11 YEARS .
HOLY shit that thing is out of round. Is all wobbling up and down while you were centering it. Then you turned it and it got all pretty.
WOW, it is such a trip to see everything spinning backwards from how I'm accustomed to drilling holes! Those massive curly shavings are crazy looking and I'll bet they can slice up your paws pretty good, huh? I had to look away at 15:33 cause I got the creeps like I was watching surgery. I have a phobia of broken glass after breaking a bottle top off in my hand, and since I'd been drinking they wouldn't sew me up for some reason...I wasn't even tanked but must've reeked from spilling brew all over myself, LOL! I got out my Daddy's ZEE medical kit and stitched myself up since my girlfriend couldn't do it. I'm going to force myself to watch and break the curse, starting...NOW :)
Excellent work and the finest super declares respect and even more success
for those of us that only ever see pissy little hss twist drill, it's great, like that's not a drill, that's a fuckin' drill.......never gets old
Looking good Adam 👍👍. Fred
Nice smooth running lathe.
Those drills are nuts just nuts
My 3" drill is even more fun to watch!
I'm new Zealand and was watching it on you tube and it was Stella
You should try cutting chuck groves in your work piece when chucking on such a small area. Gives you more stability and rigidity. Much safer.
Great video thanks for sharing! Stay Safe!
thanks adam really nice video
Adam do you live next to a fire station? It always sounds like there's an episode of cops happening in your back yard. Thank you for making videos. Have watched quite a few of yours and really enjoy them.
That two tone finish is quite unique
A self centering chuck would be the ticket for that job
Miss these no nonsense videos adam used to post
Nice work, first time I have seen you use the suds pipe!! Plenty of water will save your tips as well......................
Love seeing a great man work. Well done.....so far...lol
your a nicr guy adam for sharing your skills thanks
the coils hypnotrized me
Nice work m8 i have a little idea for that lead knocker maybe need some sort of handle on it maybe a piece 'pvc' or some kind of tubing the last thing you need is lead poising :)Have a good Christmas.
the show was awesome dude I'm liking it
Ooh I hate those little cuts when finishing bores. I have very little experience, but if I had tried to have taken 4 when you spit that 8, it would have taken more from the spring. I have screwed up some parts by slowing down the feedrate, expecting my cuts to remain consistent. Lesson learned there.
We would be given hell for putting the mic on top of the head-stock, as the head-stock runs warm all the time and can screw with the micrometer readings. But then, we were apprentices and everything we did was wrong in someones eyes LOL !
Thanks Abom nice work.
im not a machinist i just enjoy watching. since you didnt want the liquid coolant to splash all over, could you blow compressed air on the material to keep it cool as you were cutting the center bore?
Compared to air, liquid cooling is next-level.
Wow seeing this after the newer videos Adam You have lost a lot of weight
"A half a thousandths" is still my favorite Abom phrase. Which inserts are those, maybe a WNMG433TF? Impressive how well they handle the light cuts.
maybe WNMG120408-TF ic8250 Iscar?
G'day Adam, another excellent video with common sense commentary. Your a natural teacher mate. Thanks for all your effort. What are these rollers used on? Regards, Anthony.
I can hear your accent as I read you comment.. LOL. Thats awesome! The rollers are used as idler rollers at a large concrete manufacturing plant. They help guide a large mixing drum.
Thanks for the comments Anthony!
Why is it I can't stop watching this??..
Still good to watch
3/8 to chuck up ! Your braver than me !
Holy drill bit!!!
Nice work!
I can help if you will let me. I have over 40,000 hours in the machine tool industry. On an engine lathe I could hold .0003 and a 28 micro finish. With cycle time to rival a CNC in some cases. I used Iscar and Sumitomo inserts.
First, do your drilling first. This will take 50% or more out of the face cut depending on the hole size. Second, invest in a spade drill. One of my rules is " never bore what you can drill". With a stubby spade drill you can limit your rough first bore to .060.
Please let me know if this helps.
That's a big lathe, but its never going to push a 4" spade drill.
Adam: Question and comment. Q: what type of tool holder is on your Monarch? C: I am negotiating on a Monarch of my own, mainly because of you and your videos. Thanks for sharing as usual.
Jeff
Jeff, I have a Multifix tool post mounted on both of my machines. I did a review on them in a previous video.
What model Monarch are you looking at buying?
Abom79 Looking at a Model K 13x30 and a WAA 16x178 Not sure if the 16x30 will be a big enough bed long term. I'm not making a living with these, they are going to be "hobby use"
Jeff Eskelson A 30" bed length limits you to smaller scale of work, but would be great a second lathe for second ops and support machining. If I had to pick, if the 16x178 is in good shape I would jump on it. The long beds are normally a little more scarce to come across.Not everyone needs them, but In my line of work they are a must.
you could have used a peice of bar stock as a backer tighten and pull the bar stock or some paralells or better yet use a chuck with 3 hard jaws to do all the first op and put a set of soft jaws and trim to fit.
Nice work my friend.
the tool tends to touch when moving back either the part is not well fixed or there is a bending
Spring pass?
Hey Adam,
How much comes off the OD of the roller? Looks like the insert worked better when the bore got a little bigger. I like ISCAR stuff. Good tools and good prices.
Best,
Tom
Hey Tom, thanks for stopping by. About 3/8" is machined off the OD. Yea the more the hole opened up the better the cut went.
Ive had and used ISCAR brand inserts, but its been a while since we've bought from them. They have promotions once in a while, gotta keep an eye on them. Buy some inserts and get free tool holders.
They have a lot of new products now. There old style parting and grooving tools have changed to a new style, as well as many of there other style tools too.
Thanks for watching Tom!
When doing this type of work holding, it would be worth your time and effort to build a spacer/stop to hold the part at the right distance off the face of the chuck.
For me no. I know many others like back stops but I don't use them normally, plus I never bother making any. I have on occasion used parallels to space off a part. But I'm used to indicating the parts in as needed.
squirting oil on carbide inserts is the worst thing you can do. You thermally shock the insert, it's like dropping an ice cube in warm water... CRACK! You either want to flood with coolant or cut it dry. If your feeds and speeds are correct, when cutting dry the heat goes out in the chip. You should be able to touch the part, it will be warm but not hot. If it's getting hot you needs to make some adjustments.
Douglas Pierce You take enough cuts on a piece of metal with no coolant, it's going to get hot. No way around that unless you have flood coolant.
i've never seen oil used on carbide tips, especially intermittently. we always done it dry with air for chip removal or flooded. keen to hear the pros and cons of using oil on carbide.
Use air! Water or Oil is not good for carbides unless you're using a carbide insert drill. That grade of carbide is made to use with coolant.
When you thermally shock the insert, is it always totally broke? Or, can you tell when adding fluid might break it? Do you get some sense or feeling from being there of when its too hot and when its not?
Douglas Pierce that's true for regular carbide, inserts are more forgiving
Adam .. nice work