How NOT to Name a Metro Station
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- Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2021
- Vienna's Metro system is amazing; some of its station names not so much.
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"Old Danube/New Danube/Danube Island/Danube City Bridge/Danube Hospital"
*Gee, I wonder which river runs through Vienna....*
He even forgot one station which is Danube Marina
To be fair, wasn't the danube's course changed like seventeen times there?
The Liesing
vienna does
(the river vienna)
Rhine
here in Washington D.C. we have a *triple*-named metro station, "U Street/African-American Civil War Memorial/Cardozo"
why d.c.? why?
Although African American Civil War Memorial was moved to the subtitles with new guidelines in 2011
Rolls of the tongue
The DC metro seems to have a habit of double naming stations, around 20 stations have double names out of only 91 total!
There’s also Pentagon, Pentagon City, and Crystal City all back to back
"Will this video change anything? Nope, but I had to talk about it."
The most honest video essay in a long time.
yes
If it were a video essay, it would be four hours long and begin by talking about the Roman Empire.
never thought that i'd watch a video about metro station names
Never thought I'd make one.
Oh! you are still young and innocent, welcome to the "we complain about infrastructure youtube comunity".
@@Sofus. lmao, real engineering
Never thought I'd want to watch a video about metro stations
@@cybersentient4758 and Not Just Bikes
"Nächster Halt: Dönerstand. Ausstieg in Fahrtrichtung links"
Trying to reverse engineer the english-fied names back to German is really hard. Especially if you don't know the original words because you don't live in Vienna
I live in Vienna and still can't figure out what "At pumping station" is supposed to be (without looking it up)
"Am Schöpfwerk"
He has a German (Viennese Dialect) Channel where the same video is up, you can find the German names there. Also he just translated general words, no special names f.e. Meidling Station is Meidling Bahnhof, because Bahnhof is the German word for (train) station. The only translation where you need to compare the video structer to get it is the (General) hospital - das allgemeine Krankenhaus abbriviated AKH.
@@aditya95sriram I think he said its not station its just a suggestion that ANYTHING could be better than the name they have
(idk tho)
My favourite is Abbey Road on the London Underground. It literally has a sign basically saying ‘after The Beatles? Wrong side of the city, mate’ in as many words.
It's technically not on the underground because it's the DLR (but yes, can confirm there's that sign there).
lmao when you put it that way its hilarious XD but yes we londoners do have a really bad naming system. I think the most egregious example is southward station, which literally is the name of 1/32 of the city. And London is like the 2nd biggest city in the world, so, stn name doesn't help too much. They could have called it ANYTHING ELSE. Waterloo East would've been fine by me, but NO, they had to name it "s o u t h w a r k". That's like naming a station Westminster, or Bexley, or Kingston, or Richmond, or Hillingdon. Oh wait.
Best idea ever as a person living in Vienna to watch the english video (too). Translating "Hütteldorf" into "Hutvillage" really made me laugh!
There used to be an art project which renamed all the metro stations phonetically. Hütteldorf for example turned into Hit-Al-Dwarf. Karlsplatz became Carl's Bloods.
There are numerous versions of network maps with the station-names literal translations that have been doing the rounds for years, so Hutvillage isn't a real surprise.
Michaelbavaria on the other hand got me good. 🤣
Due to his heavy dialect, I understand the english version usually better than the "German" one. But the dialect gives every video such a ridiculous undertone that adds up to his dry jokes... 😅
Meanwhile in São Paulo we have "consolação Station" which is at Paulista Av, and "Paulista" station which is at Consolação St
Want some REALLY confusing station names? Japan often has multiple rail companies in the same city, which serve different stations with the same name. Sometimes they're in totally different places, sometimes they're in the same building but with separate ticket gates. For example there are 3 different Kyoto Stations (JR, Kintetsu, Metro) in one place, and to change between them you have to exit the platform and walk across the building. Oh, but sometimes Metro trains will stop at the Kintetsu station and vice versa, so if you bought the wrong company's ticket you'll have to exchange it. Kyoto also has two Sanjo Stations (Metro and Keihan), so to reduce confusion they changed the name of one to Sanjo Keihan Station... except the Keihan trains all stop at regular Sanjo Station while Metro trains stop at Sanjo Keihan. However, my favorite double station example is Sai-in Station and Sai Station, which are located right next to each other, written exactly the same (西院) but pronounced differently because ????? (Not just an accent or dialect thing, the official pronunciations are literally written differently: さいいん versus さい)
Oh, for sure. As I watched the video all I could think of was an anthromorphized Japanese railway system putting their hands in their pockets, looking away, and quitely shifting out of the frame.
My favourite example would be Tokyo's Shinjuku. In order of incredulousness, you have
Named after proximity to station
- Minami-Shinjuku (South of Shinjuku Station)
- Higashi-Shinjuku (East of Shinjuku Station)
Named after town, which in turn is named after its proximity to station*
- Nishi-Shinjuku (West Shinjuku Town)
Named after landmark, which uses its proximity to the station to discern itself from other similar landmarks in the city
- Shinjuku-Gyoemmae (National Gardens close to Shinjuku / National Gardens in Shinjuku Town)
Named after district in towns whose names derive from their proximity to the station
- Shinjuku-Sanchome (Third district of Shinjuku Town)
- Nishi-Shinjuku-Gochome (Fifth district of West Shinjuku Town)
Named after its operator to differentiate its location from the famous station near, but not adjacent to it
- Seibu Shinjuku (Seibu's Shinjuku)^
Named after a particular exit of the station next to it
- Shinjuku-Nishiguchi (Shinjuku West Exit)
And of course, you have *the* Shinjuku Station, which itself is a conglomeration of:
- Shinjuku (Japan Rail)
- Shinjuku (Tokyo Metro)
- Shinjuku (Odakyu Electric Railway)
- Shinjuku (Keio Corporation & Toei Subway - the "other" Tokyo Metro)**
...all of which are called Shinjuku on the map, but require you to exit their respective paid areas if you want to change lines.
Not surprisingly, getting around the station is like navigating a labyrinth; I've been there several times but still feel completely lost when I'm moving around outside the station.
*There is a contesting etymology that West Shinjuku is so named because it is West of the Shinjuku Area. (This particular administrative area was named in 1970.)
^There are as-yet unconfirmed plans to extend the line from Seibu Shinjuku to Shinjuku proper. I can only imagine how that will look on a line map.
**To top it off, Keio Shinjuku is comprised of a ground-level and underground-level portion that is different enough to warrant that distiction to be displayed for trains heading to Shinjuku. The trains heading to the ground-level Shinjuku denote their destination as "Keio Line Shinjuku," and those heading to the underground-level Shinjuku via the New Keio Line - and subsequently running into the Toei Subway Shinjuku Line - are accordingly named "New Line Shinjuku."
PS tidbits if you've made it this far (yay!): there are also pairs of stations which are essentially the same station, but are named completely different names. In Tokyo, some subway examples I can think of are:
- Nagatacho / Akasaka-Mitsuke
- Tameike-Sanno / Kokkai-gijidomae
@@chuwyton and then you have the lovely ticketing problem that comes with staying on one train that changes operators past a certain point in its route and having to adjust your fare at your destination accordingly.
I used to live in Kawaguchi and commute to Sangen-Jaya once a week. The Saitama New Line changes to the Tokyo Metro Namboku Line at Akabane-Iwabuchi. I would then change trains to the Hanzomon Line at Nagatacho, which itself turns into the Tokyu Den-en-toshi Line at Shibuya.
3 operators each direction. It was absurd. Remember: all this craziness despite only changing trains once.
I remember my first time in Japan and I was heading in late at night from the airport. I got to my transfer station at a JR station that had the same name as the metro station. The subway app told me to wait on platform 2 and that the train would arrive in a couple minutes. It never did. I found it odd as well that I and 5 high school boys were the only ones standing and waiting at the platform when suddenly one of them realized, screamed to his friends, "OH! We're in the JR station and need to go to go down to the actual subway!" They ran off and I ended up joining them. Great experience though.
Wait, the different companies have _separate ticketing systems?_
*cries in German unified ticketing authorities*
as someone who regularly rode the U-Bahn and knows almost every station, it was hilarious to hear your English interpretations of their names 😅
There’s a similar naming thing in Berlin on the U8 between Hermannplatz and Hermannstraße. Both are on the same line and both are important transfer nodes (-platz to the U7 and -straße to the Ringbahn) but they’re actually several km away from each-other
I live in Berlin and keep confusing these because I don't ride the U8 that often lmaooo
and yeah we have a shitton of long streets in the names of our stations as well
Also, Sonnenallee station being located at the very end of the namegiving street, near a semi-industrial area and the actual urban part of the street where most people want to go kilometers away. Many confused tourists down there. And Kottbusser Tor/Cottbusser Platz. And Kurfürstendamm/Kurfürstenstraße. And Westend/Neu-Westend. And Zoologischer Garten/Tiergarten. Freie Universität station is actually not the closest station to the university. Also (not metro related), parts of Mitte (=center) district located not far from the city border.
I used to always forget that the U8 goes father than Hermannplatz and always took the S-Bahn to Hermannstraße, even when it meant going on a detour. And everytime I was super surprised when I left the train an noticed the signs pointing towards the underground station...
Even better (or worse): The U8 follows the street Hermanstraße from Hermannplatz to the station Hermannstraße, with two more stations inbetween (Boddinstraße, Leinestraße).
I guess the origin is that the S-Bahn station Hermanstraße was constructed (and named) before the U8 was put there, and it just kept its name (and it certainly is the only S-Bahn station at this street).
Same for NeuKolln and Rauhaus Neukolln
Over in Korea, we have subway stations that are two different stations on two different lines, yet literally has the same name and are right next to each other geographically.
- Sinchon (Seoul Line 2) and Sinchon (Gyeongui-Jungang Line)
- Dongnae (Busan Line 1 & 4) and Dongnae (Donghae Line)
- Bujeon (Busan Line 1) and Bujeon (Donghae Line)
The worst part, is they are not transferrable stations.
The same thing happens in New York 😂
It makes some sense if there's some sort of signage saying which station 8s for which lines
why are they not transferable if they are right next to each other?
still better than heading to wrong yangpyeong station. only 92.7km away from each other!
@@warmike The company that runs railroads national level (Korail) also makes these long-distance metros like the Gyeongui-Jungang Line or the Donghae Line. Korail is notorious for being assertive and uncooperative with the more local urban transit companies (Seoul Metro, Busan Metro, etc.) and treats connecting with the local, already-established stations as second-hand priority. Sometimes they’ll connect when it seems at ease, but other times they’ll just go their own way and make clone stations but ambiguously far to transfer. Even if you do force walk all the way to the other clone station, you still gotta pay extra fee as they’re technically not the same stations.
New York is a little different because the manhattan lines are specifically referred to by the avenue they traverse. Like the 4/5/6 trains are called the "Lexington Avenue Line," so numbered streets along the way are known to be on Lexington and whatever numbered street you're on. Lexington Ave is labelled on the map, and the trains themselves are labelled as Lexington Ave lines. This is true for all of the manhattan north/south lines. The numbers only really matter outside of Manhattan, because they determine where the line goes once it enters a different borough (or it's express vs local within manhattan).
Imagine having a functional public transportation system that you can nitpick. In case you are wondering, I'm American
The stations in New York aren't so bad. You'll easily know what order 42nd St, 59th St, 72th St, and 86th St come in. At least in Manhattan, the numbers basically tell you how high up the island you are.
feel free to make fun of the New York City station names, but when the Lexington Avenue line has a stop called "33rd Street" you know it's at the intersection of 33rd st and lexington ave
So the Eastern Parkway Line's Bergen Street station sits at the intersection of Bergen Street and Eastern Parkway?
The naming system is generally fine in Manhattan with the organized street layout, but it can get messy in other boroughs. That being said, this can be entirely mitigated by just saying that line the stop is on, like saying Fordham Road on the D train, or Pelham parkway on the 5, or dekalb on the L
@@sometwo7429Yes, having a unique name for each station when there are nearly 500 of them is simply not practical, or predictable. Nobody thinks bus systems should have unique names for each bus stop; why should that be the case for metro train systems?
@@sometwo7429 What about 7th Avenue on the B or 36th Street on the R?
@TransferPoint9346 good point, pretty shitty planning, but these are mostly exceptions, and the people going to these stations are either tourists who mostly stay in Manhattan, or locals who can differentiate them with "7th Ave on the B in Brooklyn"
"Mariahelp Street"
It took me WAY longer than it should have to figure out that's Mariahilfer Straße... Great video!
Best one in my opinion was Michaelbavaria - General Hospital
@@sachsenschnitzel6552 yeah that one too! Especially since it has nothing to do with Bavaria, but rather, with a Benedictine monastery in Salzburg (Michelbeuren)
It took me a few seconds to get "Frontyard Street" as Vorgartenstraße XD
It was "Maryhelp street" tough
I don't mind stations named after regions, if those stations are located around the middle of the region, and there are no other stations within that region. The name kind of works in that case. - Where I grew up, the station was named after the region. But the next station named after the next region was right outside that region, making that station closer to certain places within the first region. But that is also to be expected. Best is just to look at the map and see which station is the closest.
Likewise, I think multiple stations referring to the same place are okay as long as all of the names imply that there are multiple stations referring to that place (e.g., North Central Park, Mid Central Park, South Central Park) especially if they're all next to each other on the same line.
@@erickpoorbaugh6728 The one that takes the cake for this in London is Acton: Acton Central and South Action (both Overground Mildmay line), Acton Main Line (Elizabeth line), Acton Town (District/Piccadilly), and East Action, North Acton, and West Acton (all Central line).
You said it, NYC has this same problem with stations with identical names...
For example, the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, A, B, C, and D stop at 125 Street. Except...they are FOUR different stations
The A, C, E, 1, 2, and 3 stop at 34 St-Penn Station. Except, they are TWO different stations
The 1, 2, 3, 6, B, C, and Q stop at 96 St...FOUR different stations
The C, E, 1, F, M, R, W, and 6 stop at 23 St...FIVE different stations
The 1, A, B, C, D, and 3 stop at 145 St...THREE stations
Yeah, you can tell the ones who built these stations were VERY original with the names....doesn't help the non-New Yorker trying to navigate the already confusing system. You could very easily get off at the wrong 125 St and do more walking than you need to. Sure, the lines for each of these are named after the main street they run on, but the average tourist wouldn't know that, they're just staring at a big map
@@jgelias4289 What I mean by wrong one is, you can confuse one 125 Street station with another and take the wrong line by mistake. With how confusing this system is, it could happen.
Like, it doesn't take much to put WEST or EAST in front of the station name to differentiate
Obviously you know what street you're on, but not WHICH landmark you're by or neighborhood (west side, east side, East Harlem? The station name doesn't tell you). The NYer would know, the tourist would not. This is why they should be further labeled with the neighborhoods or a certain landmark in the area of the station. There are stations labeled as such, and that's a good thing, but this should be the case with stations on the same street to not confuse tourists
also theres 3 36th st stations. one on the N-W in astoria, one is park slope on the D, and one on the A-C in manhattan.
@@jgelias4289 you dont understand. 125th st is a major public transport hub, multiple commuter railways stop there and a lot of subway lines so ofc theres gonna be multiple stations so its not just a big bumblefuck of trains
@@jgelias4289 Firstly, you really overestimate how tourists are. Common sense goes out the door when you're on vacation, plus everyone is in a rush
My point is that they should STILL change the names so that you know...they're not the SAME. Put a landmark, so the name says "Hey, you're at this landmark!" for the tourist instead of just "You're at this street...that's it"
@@jgelias4289
Sooo what you're basically saying is that it doesn't matter HOW bad a system is, because anybody who has spent years with it already knows it and anyone who is new can just suck it, because you don't care because you've been used to the bad system for a decade.
Great logic!..
This legend kept me entertained through the whole video with just station names
Respect
You think that's bad? Acton has 7 stations, and some of them aren't even in the parts of acton they describe (looking at you, Acton Town and Acton Central!
In Chile there is a metro station called Cumming
Dude love the translation of the stations xD
In defense of New York city, most stations are meant to be used for commuters rather than tourists, so an address system rather than landmarks. For example, 157th St (A line) is a much more logical name than the very obscure "Ilka Tanya Payán Park". Even though it's the _main_ landmark of the area, it's not the primary reason people want to use that station.
The only station dedicated to _any_ 157th Street is served by the 1. The closest the A comes is 155th Street, which is typically served by the C.
On the tube, neither commuters nor tourists have an issue navigating to their stop named after a landmark.
I do not care how austro-specific you think this is, this video is still very interesting and entertaining, make as many videos like this as you want! :D
Emperormills and Hutvillage had me laughing out loud, love this video!!!
Damn, really blessing us with the extra content. Thanks Tapa.
Glad to serve ^_^
Reverting the English names back into their original German names for the stations was an interesting brain game.
imagine having a metro station
in my city (Surabaya, second largest city in Indonesia btw) the BRT doesn't even have a bus lane
How to fix the names:
1. Choose a current politician
2. Threaten to not vote for them next election cycle unless they change station names
3. ???
4. Profit
perfect
Does not work. Because in Vienna, everyone else will no longer vote for that politician, as he dared to meddle with history and tradition and change station names.
Or just be a politician and name all the Station after you
Found your own political party
I guess most other voters don't think that changing station names is the most important thing to do.
I remember getting lost in Vienna when I had no service on my phone and couldn’t remember if my friend told me to meet him at Schottentor or Schottenring
Well, Schottentor is currently the last station of the U2 metro, so until 2023, it might be easier
Not 100% metro related, but in Stockholm, there is a huge station complex with a big national railway station, the largest metro station, a tram stop, a commuter rail station, a bus terminal, a ferry pier and several close bus stops. All with almost completely different names... (Yes, these are basically all connected and no, not all of them are technically considered separate stations or stops.)
I'm of course talking about the Stockholm Central Station Complex.
The national railway station is called Stockholm Central Station (Stockholms central), the metro station, the tram stop AND one of the bus stops are called T-Centralen (lit. The Metro Central), the commuter rail station is called Stockholm City, the bus terminal and one of the bus stops are called Cityterminalen (The City Bus Terminal). Close to (or inside) Cityterminalen, there is a bus stop for the airport buses called Stockholm Main Station Terminalslingan (Stockholm Main Station Terminal Loop), btw. The ferry pier is called Klara Mälarstrand, and the rest of the bus stops are called Blekholmsterrassen (Blekholmen Terrace), Kungsgatan (King St.), Tegelbacken (Brick Hill) and Vattugatan (Aquarius St.)...
So that's one station complex with 10 different names... Have fun, tourists and visitors! :)
Tldr: Stockholm Central Station and surroundings. Many different names. Pretty confusing at times. Bye.
*Pale Islet Terrace 🥸
Aaaaa, Anglicized names is so strange. Oida
And that’s where I think London and Paris make a great jobs. Most stations are named after a plaza/monument near the station so it’s easier to understand
London one-ups most other cities, though, because it has confusing names for the lines as well as some stations. When the southernmost station on the tube is on the Northern line, something has gone wrong somewhere.
Sure. Until you find out that Clapham Junction is in Battersea and nowhere near Clapham, Bayswater (station) is actually on Queensway (road) and Queensway (station) is actually on Bayswater (road), Leicester Square is close-ish, but not really on Leicester Square, Baker Street is at the very end of Baker Street, Olborne is on High Olborne instead (there's Olborne as a road a bit further east, for those who are not familiar with London), Chancery Lane, whichs IS on Olborne, is instead named after a road that is half a mile west of it, Lambeth North is actually in Waterloo, albeit at the edge of the district, Poplar is not only NOT in Poplar (it's actually in canary Wharf), but there are two other stations which are closer to Poplar and have different names... And I could continue with a few dozens other examples.
@@captainufo4587 *Holborn
Love this video, and also I like how it feels longer than usual!
In Recife, the all the metro station have cool names that probably make sense, idk i don't let live there. They're at least distinct: Coqueiral, Werneck, Joana Bezerra, Santa Luzia, Afogados, Barro. And that's the ones me and my mom remembered.
To be honest the numbered streets really work for Manhattan.
In a borough which is on such a convenient grid it just makes sense to use numbering.
Named streets actually can get annoying, you know immediately 9th Avenue is east of 10th and west of 8th.
Can you tell which avenues run parallel to Lexington avenue? Me neither.
Blocks are uniformly sized so you know how far you have to walk to get from 9th/W42 to 10th/W40th and stuff like this also really helps in finding stations. You just always know which way to go even if you are not familiar with the area.
I get that it can get confusing with stations having similar names, but I wouldn't ditch it entirely.
The Buenos Aires metro has been suffering this for a long while. And instead of fixing the confusing names... they started adding unnecessary, alternative second names to stations that are completely unrelated and do not serve any purpose. Nice.
Letzter Aufruf für den Flug von Wien nach “Die Engel”.
Final call for flight from Vienna to Los Angeles.
Isn't Engel a neuter noun tho? "Das Engel" ist richtig.
Los Angeles is plural.
Plural of "der Engel" is "die Engel".
Engel is a masculine word.
Edmonton likes to double name our stations to try to appease everyone:
Mckernan/Belgravia station
Bay/enterprise square station
SouthCampus/Fort Edmonton Park station is still a 15 minute bus ride from Fort Edmonton Park - renamed as a promotional thing.
etc
I had this issue when I was on vacation in Vienna back in summer '19. We were waiting for a friend of ours who came with a later flight.
Here in Italy we usually call our main stations "central stations", we read that the airport connection train would arrive at the "central station" (Wien Mitte) and took the metro all the way to the MAIN station (Hauptbahnhof). Definitely a misunderstanding on our side, but a clearer station naming could have saved us some time :D
I don't know if it would have helped. Those are both technically train stations. Vienna has at least 5 train stations that overlap with the metro lines and have platforms to regional trains. I know, it's confusing but you get used to it eventually. Berlin was worse for me to sort out.
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Die Übersetzungen sind großartig x'D
My mind melted trying to figure out which stations you meant by the "anglicized" names, but I am also offended by the lack of mention of my personal favourite Wien Mitte / Landstrasse.
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This exact thing happened to me with the exact stations you mentioned at the beginning. Was my first time visiting Vienna earlier this year so a good chunk of my attention had to be dedicated to navigation. Well, that slipped for a second and I got off a station early. Not the worst as I could continue my journey relatively quickly with a Straßenbahn, but you definitely have a point.
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In Taipei we have Zhongshan (on the Red and Green lines), Zhongshan Junior High School (on the Brown line), and Zhongshan Elementary School (on the Orange line). Confusing for non-locals, yes, but at least these three stations are all on different lines.
I'm from New York, and the number naming conventions for stations have never posed a problem, people just specify which line they're taking about, such as "72nd street 3 station." I think I'd find naming the stations after landmarks more confusing, but I see how someone who doesn't live here might see otherwise.
This!
Well at least new yoek has a grid with a nuberd streat vienna does not work this way so landmaks are the best we can do.
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Here's my take on Singapore.
1. Farrer Park and Farrer Road are nowhere close to each other. Heck, Farrer Road is on the Circle Line near Buona Vista (Centro-West Singapore) and Farrer Park is on the North-East Line (near the city core). In Chinese, Cove (海湾) and Marina Bay (滨海湾) are similar, that if you can't read this 滨 (bīn), you can't tell the difference. Cove is in Punggol and Marina Bay is in the city core. Speaking of Marina Bay, there are an armada of 'Marina' stations: Marina Bay, Marina South Pier, Marina South, and in Chinese, also includes Bayfront (海湾舫) and Cove (海湾). Other multiples include Tampines (Tampines, Tampines East, West, North), Bedok (Bedok, Bedok North, Reservoir, South, Sungei Bedok), and in the future, Jurong (Jurong East, West, Town Hall, Pier, Hill) and Tengah (Tengah, Tengah Plantation, Park).
2. This does not happen much, but in two stations, Sengkang and Punggol, the LRT dot matrices include a 'Town Centre' in the name to match the station code STC (Sengkang) and PTC (Punggol) while their MRT counterparts and official maps do not. Bras Basah and Bencoolen are close together yet are considered separate stations, in contrast to the further distance between the DTL and EWL Tampines stations, which are a single station.
3. Here are misleading names of MRT stations. Boon Lay is not in Boon Lay (an industrial area), Downtown is near undeveloped Marina Bay area, Aljunied is nowhere close from Aljunied GRC, but that is the GRC's fault for moving, Tuas Link hich is named after a non-existent road, and Sixth Avenue being closer to Eng Neo Avenue and Fourth Avenue than it is to Sixth Avenue.
I love videos like these
In Lisbon we have Campo Grande( big field) , Campo Pequeno( small field) and Entrecampos( between fields)
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A simple solution would be to adopt what we have in the US, and just not have public transportation. Makes traveling very simple tbh.
Oh god no
This is a joke... Right?
@@DD-vz7vr nah, totally completely serious.
@@zaidkidwai7831 I don't understand why people don't see just how bad of an idea this is
lmaoooo this cracked me up
In mexico city theres a metro station called "Coyoacan" (which is also the name of a famous borough), only problem is that metro Coyoacan isnt even on Coyoacan, but in the "Coyoacan Avenue"
Point #2 - Japan: Adds Shin-, Higashi-, Nishi-, Kita-, Minami- in front of station names, or -Chuo at the end of it.
In Nagoya, the Meitetsu Nishio Line goes Shin-Anjo, Kita-Anjo, Minami-Anjo.
In Kansai, Amagasaki Station differs wildly whether youre using JR West, Hankyu, or Hanshin railways (but in this case the station differs by railroad which kind of helps I guess)
Shin -> New
Nishi -> West
Higashi -> East
Kita -> North
Minami -> South
Chuo -> Central (whats up, Chuo Line!)
0:31 Madrid had a similar problem (Atocha - Atocha Renfe. Right next to each other, on the same line). In 2018 they changed so Atocha was renamed to Art Station.
Here in Korea, naming bus stops, there are Seodaejeon-negeori-station, Seodaejeon-negeori, and Seodaejeon-station-negeori, in a row. (Negeori means crossroad in Korean)
Here in Berlin i always confuse Westend/Westkreuz and Ostbahnhof/Ostkreuz. Also, when I first moved here i also got Hermannstraße and Hermannplatz mixed up so the time (and H-platz is right at the beginning of H-str, which made it even more confusing).
We have a tram stop in Melbourne that is the exact same as another one right next to it!
thank you for making this Video. I might try to look into my home towns bus system to see if anything bad is on there(I can already think of one)
On the mixupability thing, in London we have separate stations called:
Ruislip
Ruislip Gardens
South Ruislip
West Ruislip
Ruislip Manor
and
North Acton
South Acton
West Acton
East Acton
Acton Central
Acton Main Line
Acton Town
Frequently in the US metro stations or bus stops are named after cross streets, generally in the format "Street the station/stop is on & street intersecting next to the station/stop".
The Munch S-Bahn has similar problems with names. There are two stations next to each other with the following namens: "Pheasant Park" and "Pheasant Garden". They are unironically both named after the same place. Who thought this would be a good idea?! A friend of mine lives near one of those stations and she always has to tell people twice at which station they have to leave the train. And to make things even worse, there is a third station called "Pheasantry", which is at least located many kilometers away.
here from cleveland where we have the best of both worlds, east 34th - tri-c campus district and east 55th are both served by the metro and the light rail but then the lines split and go to different stations both of which are called east 79th and which are a few blocks away from each other
For cost reasons, Los Angeles Metro has a number of stations that are another street away from where the station name leads one to expect to find the entrance. For example, Hollywood/Vine station is almost one street east of the famous crossing. The soon-to-open Wilshire/Fairfax station is a full block east of that intersection. The soon-to-open Wilshire/La Cienega station is a full two blocks east of its namesake. Future L.A. visitors are in for a lot more surprises when they exit subway stations. Of course, using Hollywood/Argyle or Wilshire/Gale Drive for names is even worse, because Argyle and Gale are minor streets and not major arteries line Vine and La Cienega.
Alternate title: stick figure ranting about trains - not the first time
The big advantage of using numbered streets for station names on the NYC system is that you can guess where the closest station is to your ultimate destination. Unfortunately, NYC has many different numbered street systems, depending on which borough you are in, and often, where in that borough.
in Paris we have the final boss: one station, that is actually three stations, called ‘Châtelet’, ‘Les Halles’ or ‘Châtelet-Les-Halles’ , depending on which line of metro or commuter rail you’re on it’ll be called something different. Oh, and if you’re specifically on Line 4, you go through it twice, once as Les Halles and once as Châtelet, both of which have a connection with the commuter rail station called… ‘Châtelet-Les-Halles’. but of course you can only access certain platforms depending on which of Châtelet or Les Halles you got off at and in which direction your train was going. Simple et facile!
*Laughing while watching this on the London tube*
In London you have Edgware Road (Circle, District and Hammersmith & City lines) and Edgware Road (Bakerloo line), as well as just an Edgware on its own
There's also Hammersmith (District and Piccadilly lines) and Hammersmith (Hammersmith & City and Circle lines)
Additionally, on the tube map, there is only one station called Paddington, but on the official count, there's one Paddington on the Hammersmith & City and Circle lines, and another on the Bakerloo, District, and... Circle again...
Not forgetting how there are FIFTY-EIGHT words/names that occur in more than three Tube names, including Tottenham (3), London (3), Saint/Saints (6), & (7), Acton (7), Green (13), West (16), and the top three are:
Street (19), Road (31) and Park/Parks, which are featured in the names of THIRTY-SEVEN DIFFERENT TUBE STATIONS
dont forget west ealing, south ealing, north ealing, ealing common & ealing broadway
clapham north, clapham south, clapham common
action mainline, action town, south action, action central, north acton, west acton, and east acton
Here in Kraków, Poland for many decades there was a bus stop (Okulickiego) named after a street terminating some 600m away - just after the following bus stop.
This area lies nearby a decommissioned military airport, meaning there was once pretty much nothing there and I believe the bus stop name simply wasn't updated when the road layout changed.
A few years back they did finally rename the problematic stop to refer to the student housing estate right next to it.
Here in Seattle we have "University Street" and "University of Washington" stations. Northbound trains now have an announcement that plays at University Street that says "stay on the train for University of Washington campus." There's also U District station (short for University District) but that's not as bad, plus it's also near the UW campus. They were going to rename the University Street station but never ended up changing it, I think partially because of the cost to replace all of the signs for the station
It wasn’t even because of the cost of signage. Apparently updating the abbreviation used in the computer system will cost $800,000.
@@DanielHeppner Oh weird. Why so expensive?
A few weeks ago I was travelling to Antwerp and I went on Tram Line 4 which calls at both tram stops at the Bolivarplaats (Bolivar Square) (there is one in the middle of the square and one on the edge of the square) which are both called "Bolivarplaats", because Tram Line 1 only calls at the stop on the edge of the square. But because Tram Line 4 calls at both stops, you've got Bolivarplaats twice, whilst the distance is roughly 150-300m between them (depending on the platform).
To make things even worse, travelling southbound the next stop is called "Zuid" (South) after the Antwerp South Busterminal. But the stop after that is called "Station Zuid", because that one serves the "Antwerpen Zuid" Trainstation which is 250m further down the road of the Busstation. So we went from "Bolivarplaats" to "Bolivarplaats" and from "Zuid" to "Zuid" in the space of four stops... xD
New yorker here and believe when i say that a station named after a numbered street isn't really that bad especially as you get farther away from midtown and the area surrounding central park. And even when station names are similar we try to differentiate them a bit
Have an issue like that in my city too "Altenberger Straße/Street" and "Altenberger Platz/Place".
They are on the same line and sometimes I confuse them and leave the bus too early.
In Hong Kong, there is a journey time of approximately 30 minutes between the metro stations Wan Chai and Chai Wan (on the same line).
Here in Vancouver we have Commercial-Broadway and Broadway-City Hall, both of which are major interchanges that I've gotten mixed up more times than I'd like to admit. Also, lots and lots of stations names. Also, Vancouver City Center and Granville are more or less the same station (they're less than a block from each other and you can transfer without going outside) but on maps they're shown as being totally separate for some reason.
in london, we have:
- Harrow & Wealdstone
- North Harrow
- South Harrow
- West Harrow
- Harrow-on-the-Hill (5)
- Ruislip Manor
- Ruislip Gardens
- South Ruislip
- West Ruislip
- Ruislip (5)
- Acton Main Line
- Acton Central
- North Acton
- East Acton
- South Acton
- West Acton
- Acton Town (6)
there are also three variations each of Wembley and Watford, five Ealings, and four Kensingtons... and thats just the west of the city!
I appreciate the translation from all the station
Schottentor hätte auch Gate Gate sein können.
The first stations I thought of for the similar names are "Neumarkt" and "Heumarkt" in Cologne, also one after the other...
In Helsinki there's a district called Haaga. There are 2 stations: Huopalahti (Felt Bay) and Pohjois-Haaga (North Haaga).
The district was once the seat of a municipality named Felt Bay. Then Haaga became separate from Felt Bay but the station name of Felt Bay remained from some reason even though it wasn't even located in that municipality anymore. In 1945 both Haaga and Felt Bay were consolidated into Helsinki. 75 years later, the station still retains its name even though it only still exists as Little Felt Bay (housing area and bay 2km away) and Big Felt Bay (bay 3km away). In my opinion the station should be renamed to Haaga or South Haaga.
Later, in the 70s, the station of North Haaga was opened. It's located in the northern part of the district but in the sub-area of Lassila which is separate from the sub-area of North Haaga. In my opinion the station should be renamed Lassila.
My hometown names most of the stations after the communities they're in, nearby landmarks, or the roads there on that no other station is. Shawnessy Station is in the community of Shawnessy. Fish Creek-Lacombe Station is near Fish Creek Park (no idea why Lacombe though). University Station is by, you guessed it, the University! And Heritage Station is the only station located on the road called Heritage Drive.
Shoutout to NYC for having 6 23rd street stations (including PATH)
As a Torontonian, I will stick by the naming stations by streets since every station has a bus terminal, and ultimately it doesn't matter the point since you can take frequent transit anywhere along that corridor.
Tapakapa: *advises against naming station after streets*
London underground: *dies*
Honestly glad where I live has the stations named after the streets they're on, like for example the Station 24th and Mission is you guessed it, on 24th and Mission. It's also helpful there's not many street names that repeat themselves that I know of, none do.
Chicago's Blue Line has two "Western" stops. The line boomerangs through downtown Chicago so there is a Western stop on both the North branch and the South branch.
I really enjoyed this and now I am armed with more complelty random information to spring on people
Toronto has a noun addiction, and a lot of subway stations with names like “Lawrence” “Lawrence West” and “Lawrence East”
The entrance to Greenwood station is at Linnsmore Avenue, but since no one knows where that is, it’s only a block east, and the Greenwood bus goes to that station, maybe that’s not so egregious. One that’s really bad is Kennedy, which is actually halfway between Kennedy and Midland on Eglinton and actually under a bridge over a main rail line.
Then there’s Bloor/Yonge. Unlike Sheppard-Yonge which had its name double barreled on both Lines 1 and 4, the Line 1 Station at Bloor/Yonge is Bloor, on the Yonge line, whereas the line 2 station is Yonge, on the Bloor line.
Nyc subway station names are pretty unique, but some stations have the same name because they lie on the same street, even though they are in different places along the street. For example there are 3 Van Siclen avenue and 2 nostrand avenue stations. They are all on different train lines so that should help, but I've seen many people get confused by this and think they must be the same station because they have the same name.
I spend my whole summer (2021) in Vienna and one thing I loved, it was the public transportation but as a foreign (Portuguese) I sometimes found it confusing.
Once a friend of mine called me to meet up at danube and I said "ok,will be there in 30m". I end up on a different station because how similar how the names of the stations are. Basically, I ended up at neue donau and she was at another station with "donau" in the name as well.
Still, loved Vienna and the moments I had there. Thanks for all the viennese people for an amazing experience.
(btw, writting this from a austrian computer I bought there from a guy. people are super nice!)
Here in São Paulo, there is a station called Paulista located in Consolação St. and a station called Consolação located in Paulista Ave. Everyone I've met confused those 2 stations at least once
I can think of a "double name" problem here in Hungary too, although that's mainly on buses - My least favorite is that there are 3 stops, that are all after one another named "Budafok Way" but there is something attached after each of them