Why Ferrari’s abandoned F1 driver is now on Red Bull’s radar
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Seeing out his final year at Ferrari after being dumped over the winter, in need of surgery during the second race weekend of 2024, still unemployed for next year - and now the driver who has ended Max Verstappen’s early season domination. This is a weird time to be Carlos Sainz.
The driver Ferrari’s abandoned has had a great start to the season either side of having his appendix removed. But he still doesn’t know where he’ll be racing in 2025.
That’s despite being the only non-Red Bull driver to win a race in the last 18 months or so.
Red Bull Racing boss Christian Horner joked that Sainz “appears to be our nemesis”. Well, Christian, there’s one way to stop him from stopping you winning. Sign him!
0:00 Intro
2:06 Is a return possible?
4:15 Sainz's unlikely audition
7:55 Where was Perez?
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Guys, please can you do a deep dive into Mercedes terrible start to the season?
This was meant to be the start of the comeback, they look further away than they ever have!
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My prediction is that Sainz will replace Alonso at Aston Martin and Perez will lose his seat to Lawson and end up at RB with the chance of getting back to his seat if Lawson doesn't perform. Antonelli will take Hamilton's seat at Mercedes and will be the youngest driver ever. I think Riccardo will be out of F1 again but this time I don't see him returning. I can also see Sargent losing his seat if Williams can afford to replace him. Maybe they will risk another Rookie (Pourchaire perhaps???) but doubt they will want to take the risk (not be able to secure him) and will opt for an experienced driver, maybe Alonso who will be out of a seat??? However I see it more likely it will be Magnuson who will lose his seat to Bearman. I think we will see Alonso retire for good at the end of this season.
Do they guarantee it works in China? Cos I heard that bullshit marketing claim before... I travel there every month for work, and trust me, if I get it, I'll be testing it...
@@krishnabharadwaj4403 Not surprised. But they are shills. I mean, their F1 coverage on the sporting side only is good, but they are on the take so as soon as it comes to their sponsors (and the main sponsors of the sport) they throw out any little piece of journalistic integrity they thought they had.
The problem is that they think it has to be like that since traditional journalism is dying and these guys still have bills to pay. I get that part, I will just never ever understand why you can't be more picky about your sponsors and grow some balls when it comes to the atrocities committed by some of the places they go to cover the sport.
Carlos removing his apendix was just clever weight reduction
Funny, but still I think teams are required to add ballast to offset any weight reduction and prevent an unfair advantage.
This is not your joke,it has been made 1000s of times online already. To make it again here, as if it was your own, shows a pathetic need to be validated by strangers.
you must be fun at parties, chill dude not everyone has been exposed to this joke yet learn how to share the love @@jamesmccaul2945
@@jamesmccaul2945brother 99% of jokes are unoriginal
@@jamesmccaul2945your need to shit on a joke that probably everyone thought of independently shows you’re a typical keyboard warrior. I bet no one likes you. 😂
Sainz in his current form in a Red Bull car would be a cataclysmic combination. And Ferrari would learn the true and wholeheartedly meaning of what a "Ferrari moment" is.
I agree, I love Ferrari, but the car company owner hurry to bring in Lewis was a bit outsmarting for themselves. Lewis is really fast but Sainz lacks nothing. He's a determined driver with a lot of patience and never hurries the lap performance, disadvantaging his tire conservation. I'll cheer for him either in whichever team goes to race from neaxt year on.
@@freerideshuttle As a Ferrari fan, i genuinely think signing Lewis only had to do with marketing.
@@thamammubaris4000Oh yes, no doubt about that. Lewis is a great driver, but it's not just marketing. It's his entourage. I'm sure Lewis is a package and not just a driver - there will be engineers, no doubt talented, coming over to Ferrari as well. It's a smart play, and the compromise in having not the best driver pairing at a given moment could be well worth it
@@freerideshuttleLewis is basically paying Ferrari hundreds of millions for this seat. His brand and marketing is bringing them trucks of money. Sainz cannot do that, even if his current form stays. Hope he goes RB and is just about there with Max.
This would be true if the incoming driver wasn't Lewis, Sainz is great but Lewis to ferrari has been in the air for years.
Sainz somehow ending up at Red Bull is like someone who did a long side quest and came back for the final boss
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I don't wanna see this shit if sainz is in RB then all podiums we see will either be No.33 or No.55
then even one RB crashes out there will be another to dominate and it would be a disaster for us F1 fans. THEY SHOULD HIRE FERNANDO OR YUKI OR HIRE RICARDO AND FUK THEMSELF UP.
The equation would change with Sainz at Red Bull. Comparing them to RB (VCARB), Max would akin to Daniel and Sainz to Yuki. Watch this space!
@@bertram-ravenHonoka Kousaka and Max Verstappen driving for Red Bull as teammates in 2025 could be very interesting too.
Bong not boss
@@bertram-raven
If you truly believe that Sainz would comfortably beat Max I want some of what you’re drinking lmao
Imagine talking about the only race winner outside of Verstappen in the last 20 something races, in terms of him not having the overall pace.
I think it's not just because Carlos has improved while at Ferrari, but equally because Charles appears to have gotten worse lol. You will see what an outright pace disadvantage looks like when he (hopefully) goes to RB next year.
Honestly we’ll get a lot of questions answered. Like how good really is Max?
Thank you! Carlos beat Charles last year if it weren't for that drain cover in Vegas.. It's just ignorant to say Leclerc would win out over a season in a competitive car. Sainz brought the fight to him in 2022 and past him up last year, and yes, as you say, is the ONLY driver who shows up when Max can't take the win.
The problem is red bull and there car are built around max and his weird driving style so who ever the second driver is won't be able to drive at 100%
@@biggusy25Yeah, sure the drain cover in Vegas... What about the third place Leclerc lost due to an engine failure in Bahrain, his grid penalty in Saudi-Arabia or his mechanical problem before the start in Brazil? Leclerc lost more points than Sainz last year due to bad luck and outperformed Sainz in 2022. Like said in the video, Sainz is really close to Leclerc, but definitely not better
Love you guys, but its a bit insulting to compare Ricciardo with Perez... Ricciardo has sucked for 4 years straight.
Indeed Ricardo has been done for years already its just a hype no skills anymore the dude needs to step aside
Grande salomundo barriendo para casa
And Pérez also has been sucking for a good number of years.
The Perez hate and overrating Ricciardo is real
Both suck, but definitely Ricciardo sucks more.
Also, there's no way he'll have another appendicitis and miss a weekend for that!
😂😂😂😂
good thinking bro 🤔
He cannot fool me. Sainz was in hospital to have the same chip inserted into his head as Max in preparation for moving back to the Red Bull stable.
Sainz at Red Bull hopefully not suffer the same like Perez since 2023.
They're gonna put that appendix back in so they can take it out later for another win :)
Jos Verstappen is a no-one compared to Carlos Sr. I would think Carlos Sr. would have more influence in the team than Jos at the end.
Maybe then, but not after Max is winning championships
ideally neither have any real influence and just let the team do as they do
Then you obviously don’t understand why Jos has any influence at all…it’s because of Max.
"Technically" Jos Build Max.
The difference is the attitude. You don't see Carlos Sr. running his mouth around every time his son is in trouble. Nor you see Carlos Sr. trying to diminish or insult Carlos Jr's opponents... And Carlos Sr. career is far better than anything Jos did with his. And still Carlos Sr. behaves like a gentleman and gets out of the way when needed, unlike Jos that tries to hog the public attention thinking he's Max.
Imagine being Ricciardo wishing to get the seat at RB? Lmao
Then I'd have to question myself if I am good enough if I get absolutely obliterated by a young driver
Danny Ric is washed, never should have left RB
It's Lawson's imo
overhyped driver
He needs to worry about holding onto his current seat
Carlos has made every teammate become like his best friend. That’s a great dynamic to bring to a team. Obviously that’s not the be all and end all but it’s a great skill to have.
and it still shows in Ferrari, I mean they basically showed him the boot, but they look as harmonious as ever. Really fantastic personality trait.
Not every team mate, I don't think he has that comraderie with Vestappen but that is understandable.
Sainz is a great guy no doubt. Down to earth and likeable in everyway.
Actually they have a pretty decent relationship given they spent years in the RB academy together@@jkbzz
What can you say, the guy is just a smooth operator.
@@jkbzz He might this time around with Max. *1.* Both of them are more mature now. *2.* I think Max is likely to be more agreeable now that he has won multiple World Championships. *3.* (kinda ties in with 1) Both drivers understand "who they are" at this point in their careers as compared with his and Max's early days with the junior team at the beginning of their career. I don't think Carlos is going to rub Max the wrong way by thinking of himself as better than Max or anything.
This sounds very similar to how Perez got the Redbull seat in the first place. An underrated driver that is out of contract at the end of the year, and ends up winning a race.
Definitely, you're right. Sainz is even more deserving of that seat, he's holding his own really well against Leclerc while Perez was against Ocon and Stroll in his later pink car years. If I was RB I would have at least 20 different contracts and season budgets prepared already
You forgot Sergio went last to first lolol
The only reason why Perez got the RB seat was cause Gasly and Albon failed so bad.
As fantastic as Sergio’s win was, Carlos isn’t a one hit wonder. He’s only got progressively better as his Ferrari career has evolved, especially over the last 18 months.
@@Marcoz588 Sainz's second part of the seasons are always brilliant. He grows up throughout the season. If he has started the season this way, i cannot wait to see how the rest of the year plays out.
Replace Stroll and pair with Alonso at AMR? Damn that would be a killer combo!
sadly stroll will never get fired from aston martin
Oh yeah, a perfect combo to fight for single digit points! Absolutely the right place for a driver like Sainz
It would be Astón Martinez
Stroll contract status: “rolling”
Would be an amazing pairing. If Stroll gets destroyed by Alonso again this season, then he should be dropped. Surely, the other investors within the team can't be happy with his performance. If they want to challenge for titles, then they need 2 top drivers scoring big points every race.
Maybe getting Sainz would also be Horner's way of telling Jos Verstappen to eff off and to reassert himself as the team principal and undisputed leader of the RBR team
Certainly bringing a competitive second driver could help solidify his power if it doesn't push Verstappen out
@@TheThreatenedSwanI really do think that all the max threatening to leave rumor is just orchestrated by Jos as a means of power. If it was up to max i don’t think he would care who’s his team mate as long as they don’t crash him out of a race
@@bxsnettHorner,Jos and Helmut quarrel is just an attempt to shake up Ford's deal to bring Honda back
Obviously Max wants Honda
@@everydaydose7779 very very interesting take, thanks for this 👍
@@everydaydose7779 A plausible theory, but IMO from Honda had already made up their minds by going to Aston Martin and Red Bull looks committed to their partnership with Ford.
You guys say that Verstappen wouldn’t want Sainz on the team because he isn’t a “easily beaten number 2 driver” but when rumours about Alonso coming to Red Bull surfaced, there wasn’t much talk of hesitancy from his side of the garage. If there would be no problems for Alonso why would there be for Sainz?
I think at this point Max wouldn't be as defensive to having a guy across the garage that could give him a run for his money in equal equipment as he was earlier in his career. Max is now focused on simply being the best to ever do it, or at least on the Mt Rushmore. Sainz is the level of driver that Max would feel comfortable beating most weeks but would win enough races that Max would get way more credit for beating him over the course of the season. When it comes down to discussions about who is the greatest F1 driver one thing that always comes up when drivers have a dominant car is how did they compare against their teammate & what sort of teammate did they have.
Exactly. Makes no sense. Alonso is driving insanely well and has no contract for next year. It would be great to see him at Redbull next year, and I say this as a Riccardo fan. At this moment Riccardo just doesn't deserve the seat, sadly. 😢😢
Alonso is old man Max has no problem of beating him. Though i dont think Max would care is Sainz comes to RB.
I honestly doubt Max would care who his team mate would be, having quite literally said so on multiple occasions. If anything, having a better team mate would help Red Bull make their car even more scary fast.
Alonso is gonna retire in a season Or 2 anyway so it won’t be an issue.
Isnt this Deja Vu of how Perez got the job at RedBull? The winning driver without a drive next year.
The Other question is how patient will Visa RB be with Ricciardo before replacing him with Liam Lawson
My guess is maybe after Spain. That'd be 10 races after this year and what rb gave de vries.
Rumor has it, Ricciardo might be out as early as Imola
@@halofreak1990how credible is that? Not hating, genuinely curious
I think it could take place right now.
I saw Helmut Marko say Riccardos got till china lol
Video idea - Why f1 can't curb tear-off mayhem that causes races being ruined ? This has happened with Ocon and Perez in Australia and many times before with other drivers. Can't drivers be forced to keep tear-off within themselves ?
100%. It's absolutely ridiculous they aren't required to keep them inside the cockpit. I wouldn't be surprised if drivers deliberately throw them out when there's a high chance they'll get sucked into a following car and they have such a huge effect on the aero performance of the cars when they get caught in a duct/wing/aero surface. Not to mention it just seems lazy and careless. It's like when you see some fuckwit throw their rubbish out the car window on the highway
Meanwhile yuki racing Ricardo hard for that seat🎉
Tsunoda ain't getting it 😂
Not happening. Tsunoda is going to Aston with Honda.
@@WillbrseAramco and Stroll won't accept Tsunoda 😂
@@KuchingKingVideoGamer If Aramco buys it Stroll is out. Even without that I don't think Stroll will insist on keeping his son there. He retires this season or next one
Did Singapore 23' not give us enough reason to rate Carlos highly?
And Monaco 2022. He was in contention for the win there too.
Unles Audi-Sauber somehow manage to make a WCC-winning machine from Year 1, Carlos is 100% gonna be driving for Red Bull.
I'm not sure I don't think Sainz would be Verstappen's wingman
@@pooyakhalili406I think he would prefer being able to at least challenge Max Verstappen rather than being in middling machinery with no chance of a win
yeah, before this season i was thinking he might go to mercedes as a swap with lewis but with the state of that team, idk if anyone wants to go there. Red bull seem like a good option but will really throw off yuki who is racing well rn and is working to get that seat.
@@pooyakhalili406he is one of the ones who can literally beat max. So definitely he won't be a wingman.
@@pooyakhalili406 The situation if he were to go to Red Bull would have to something more akin to what he has at Ferrari now where there is no clear number and the team isn't making it obvious who they choose to back from race to race so long as at least one of them is winning. Otherwise, yeah, no way now with the confidence he's gained at Ferrari the last few seasons that he'll agree to being the clear number 2 to Verstappen.
I have doubted whether Sainz has that little something to be a world champion. I even thought after not beating Max in Canada 2022 that was him hitting his ceiling. But I think he's challenged that and the concept of Sainz as world champion is back on the table in my mind. I'm excited to see how far he can go and how wrong he can prove me to be.
I can see him being a champion with the right car and the right team.
I think if in 2022 Ferrari could make a dominan car like Red Bull or Mercedez, Sains could do a Rosberg and snatch a Championship from leclerc
I don't think he can beat Max in equal machinery. But here's the thing about Sainz, his growth has been very mercurial hence who is to say what can and may happen in the future. He is a much cleaner wheel to wheel racer compared to Verstappen but on raw pace, Max is above everyone else bar maybe Leclerc.
Depends on the car and teamate.
He 100% would lost to
Max/Alonso/Lewis.
But could have a shot with the others.
@@RoyMatzemalonso is washed so only Lewis/Max/Leclerc
I think inside the RB family, Yuki is the best bet for the future. But outside... Sainz is the obvious choice. Get that man a big salary, a fast car, and a can of red bull!
Yuki's okay but he's not a champion. Just not good or levelheaded enough.
Yuki cracks under pressure in the midfield. Imagine that guy in a title fight. He'll never drive at a top team.
Yuki is an undisciplined head case.
Yuki is Honda's driver, he will go wherever Honda goes which in 2026 won't be Red Bull anymore.
The problem is that Gasly and Albon had more potential than Tsunoda and both was mentally destroyed in RB.
Yuki wouldnt handle.
I would really like to know who is fastest... Sainz or Verstapen (seniors) 😂 a battle of the dads....
I'm saying Carlos sr just because of how he's won a championship with Audi very recently
@@gawdpromaxultra703definitely Sainz Sr. Look at his racing history in comparison to Jos. He's 100x better
Carlos Sainz Sr. is a multi-time WRC champion and is widely regarded as one of the greatest Rally drivers of all time. Jos Verstappen is widely regarded as a flop, a person with an excellent junior career but who failed upon debuting in F1. It wouldn't even be a competition.
@@calumbishop7082 Jos had one chance at benneton....he did a halfway decent job, but had the huge fire in the pits....benneton put lehto back in, then swapped him again for Jos....after that quick chance, he was fortunate to hang on in the grid with backmarker teams. he always was quite strong in mixed and wet conditions, regularly putting shitty ass cars higher than they should be. he had talent, but not enough to get a "real" chance after benneton. to proclaim Sainz sr would be faster in an F1 car than Jos is foolish.
@@calumbishop7082
You don’t get to drive 9 years in f1 if you’re just a flop. Rally is bs anyway. How can you compare rallying to F1. It isn’t even close.
I love that Charles is trying to be a good teammate in cheering on Carlos.
According to Peter Windsor, word on the paddock is that Perez has already signed for 2025. Windsor said it during his review of the Australian GP on his RUclips channel.
Contracts mean nothing in F1.
Impossible, so early in the season. Why would they?
Contracts in F1 are only worth as much as they’re willing to pay to break them, and teams like Red Bull can afford to pay a lot.
Oh everyone just lies to Windsor as he isn't very popular.
Peter's a good guy but he's very often not correct with his predictions...
Carlos Sr would be a good father figure for Max
100 percent indeed. Imagine if Peterhansel also the one designed perfect RB cars.
He didn't end Max's domination. Brakes did lol
Exactly, should have worded it differently
Yeah that grinded my gears hearing that😂. Max was even leading a few laps with an off balanced because of the right rear beeing stuck.
Saying Sainz ended Max's early domination is a bit of a stretch. Max had a brake issue from lights out. You know this.
of course they do, but they'll twist anything to make max look bad
The reasons do not matter, he was the one who won, so Max's domination is over.
@@juanfervalencia merely on pause, definitely not over. And when they state it as fact the reasons do matter.
Cuts both ways, Max’ car started domination, now Max’ car ended his domination!
Give Carlos a bit of credit, he just had an operation done, which is impressive too! Also, Max isn’t a robot either… and the season is long.
@@deech.duboisDidnt say Carlos doesnt deserve credit, he just doesnt deserve thecredit of 'ending max's domination'. He started 2nd and inherited first. The least you could expect of a driver is to keep their starting position, which he did. He wasn't challenged from behind. He does however get credit for putting himself there in quali and for doing it after surgery.
There are other amazing stories being written in F1, they dont need to be fabricated.
The disrespect to Checo never ends
It's deserved the guy has the best car on the grid and underperforms with it.
@101noz101 yeah tell me you know nothing! Might wanna take a look at what Horner and Helmut said about what happened in Australia.
But sure,
You can tell yourself that..
@@101noz101He started the season with two solid P2's so I think he can get a pass for a P5 even more considering he had a grid penalty and a problem with an Alonso's tear-off stuck to his car.
@@soundscape26max drives away from the field and Sergio is . 3 per lap behind
It's a problem
The Red Bull is an incredibly difficult car to drive, but Max can handle it. As has been demonstrated the last two plus seasons, Checo doesn't command the car as well as Max. Perez would probably do better with the Ferrari.
I think that's harsh on Checo. There were mitigating circumstances for the Aussie GP. Granted (and agreed), Sainz is an upgrade but Checo is still a very strong driver and can do the job (whether he has the appetite and drive is a different question when you've driven for the championship winning outfit).
Carlos isn’t upgrade to Perez there both the same , I’ll say perez has better race craft on Sundays
this channel is, more often than not, harsh on Sergio :)
@@pratyushsingh7786most of the channels
I don't normally C+P from my other replies, but I will make an exception since so many people are questioning why there are criticisms of Checo.
I'd say after last year, it's warranted. Let me do that C+P for you gents:
Yes, Checo finished second. Now, here are some facts that will paint that P2 in a less glowing light:
Checo had 2 wins, Max had 19.
Checo has 2 poles vs. 12 from Max.
Checo was off of the podium in 12 races, Max was off of it in 1.
Checo ended the season with HALF the points of Max.
That's one of the worst head to head stats of any team in 2023, certainly of a top team. So yeah, he by definition under performed.
Had the RB not been such an amazing car last year, Max would still have won but Checo would almost certainly not have been second such was his performance gap. He is almost 300 points short of Max's haul but there is "only" about 80 points down to 6th from him...
And nah, I am not a Max fan but I do like facts. Checo scraped by to P2 last year in the most dominant machinery the sport of have seen. That's underperforming.
@@AntiVaganza when Checo came into Red Bull, everything turned around for RBR on the winning side. He could be a good luck for them. Could it be just a coincidence? Maybe. But why do you want to fix an unbroken car when everything runs fine?
I personally think its crazy how much the visor tear offs can destroy peoples races by getting stuck in the floor yes you would expect it 100 percent to cause trouble when they get sucked into the brake ducts but seriously getting one stuck on your floor can loose you downforce is incredible
Also Lawrence Escalante(VGW PLAY Ceo) was seen talking to Christian Horner over the Aus GP weekend. He has a good relationship with Sainz and I wouldn't be surprised if Sainz comes as a package deal with VGW play after their sponsorship deal with Ferrari finishes at the end of this year.
Max is in a period of his career where I believe would welcome an in house challenge.
Ferraris decision making skills never fails to impress me
Do you think its wrong to use wet tires in the hot desert even though everybody knows the blue color runs the tires cooler, and the grooves offer better grip for sandy surfaces?
Ferrari corporate ruining Scuderia Ferrari, like always.
John Elkann has had his head turned in thinking signing Lewis is a good thing for Ferrari...
It is thought, Lewis is still quick and he brings in so much money
@@Alex-tu9bhI don't think FERRARI are struggling for money 💀
@@wasru. They certainly aren't and I can't see Hamilton being much more than a stopgap before Ollie Bearman is ready.
Sainz didn't end Max's early season domination.... Max had a mechanical. Geez, The Race is getting a bit Sun-like with the headlines.....
Yeah I dont get it, they know this. Bad reporting.
I know right! They've been leaning hard into the soap opera b.s. lately
this is just like singapore 2023 all over again where people suddenly claim sainz is better than max
true but he was the one to take the win twice
@@lofipurple right place at the right time.
Sainz is an elite driver but pretending he wouldn’t be a clear 2nd is crazy - verstappen nearly tripled sainz points together at toro rosso
Just because your classmates scored triple what you did in second grade, it doesn't mean you are a dimwit for life. 😊
2015: 7-4 retirements
bro lol I want him to go there 100%. This guy would get bull dozed by Max that makes people question Sainz on a whole other level. It's always guys like Sainz and Perez that makes me people feel good with their underdog stories and make them out to be someone that they are clearly not.
Carlos out qualified him. The toro rosso also had reliability issues. Carlos was more unlikely and had more DNfs due to mechanical errors. Max had a better season and is the better driver, but the gap that hears wasn’t as big as the results paint
@@VUVURECORDS i checked the wiki results for that season and it was 7-5 realistically I think... cause max mustve had a problem with the car and still classified 18th or something.. (dunno why it wasnt a dnf) edit: it was 17th and this is was the reason "† - Driver did not finish the Grand Prix, but was classified as they completed ..more than 90% of the race distance."
Yea funny how that old Toro Rosso line up (all be it unlikely) could end up being RB line up next season. I think we can add Sainz to that long list of links to the drinks company.
all this shows that some drivers need proper motivation to race to their limit. a world champion needs that motivation in every race.
No disrespect to Sainz but HE didn’t “end Max’s domination”; Max’s car did. Details matter, The Race.
I don't think even max would have been able to stop sainz yesterday,the man was on fire all weekend and controled the Race perfectly
But he managed to make the most of it in this situation. Those wins weren't easy cause he had always some battles with Merc and Mclaren
it was gonna happen with in 5 laps. When did you start to watch and follow the sport?
No disrespect too
this year the prancing horse will push RB this season, that car will get better as the season passes
@@escos0410 If this is directed at me, trying to question how long I’ve been watching is weak. At the time, Max was still in the lead with a bit of margin. Yes, Carlos may have passed Max on merit & not on car failure. THAT might then be “ending his domination” though just one race doesn’t earn that language when Max was on the cusp of TEN wins in a row.
Geeez it's just one race. Don't worry Max will win every other race this season. Can another driver have 1 moment in the sun after a come-back drive from surgery?
I wish, I so wish he gets a seat in redbull. A seat in merc will be a downgrade from Ferrari and audi will be a very big risk. I just wanna see him in a good car ;)
good video. thank you for highlighting sainz’s strengths while illuminating why tsunoda and ricciardo are both too slow for red bull
What I wonder though: How would Sainz adapt to the RB20?
Iirc, the time Sainz and Leclerc were closest was when the car wasn't as pointy as Charles prefers.
The RB20, if anything, is probably even pointier than the Ferrari Sainz is driving now.
I think besides the legends like Hamilton and Alonso, or the prodigies like Leclerc and Verstappen, he's probably the best driver on the grid right now.
It'd be a real shame if he caught the curse of Red Bull's second seat, like others did before him.
Ferrari chose to keep the wrong driver. There you have it.
Nah, I still think Leclerc will edge Sainz come the end of the season. We'll see...
Ferrari never should have signed an ageing Hamilton in the first place, he doesn’t have as much time left in the sport & he will cause conflict with LeClerc, such a terrible decision
@@justadummy8076 From a Ferrari perspective I would never touch the current lineup, as it strikes a near perfect balance.
As a fan I'm more than pleased Lewis is going to Ferrari, not only to see how he'll perform there but also because of the domino effect that creates on the driver market.
@@justadummy8076 With such top tier armchair F1 expertise, you should definitely call Ferrari boss and demand that he rescinds Hamilton's 2025 contract and keep Sainz. Don't forget to tell him if he also got your email.
Lol so toxic
RB need a Bottas to their Hamilton and idk if Sainz is ready to be that right now?
Agree. Sainz might be too good / his mentality is he wants to win
So a Nico Hulkenberg? Maybe. But that would just be swapping Perez good at racing (bad at qualifying) for Hulkenberg good at qualifying (bad at racing). May not be ideal.
I wonder how or if Saintz can handle the RB car setup that Max so enjoys.
Where is the Australian post race analysis or this is it?
So you’re making fan videos now? “Please Red Bull sign him!”
Redbull will never sign Carlos because that goes against their strategy of a 1 driver team. They never want a Vettel/ Webb situation again
Max would slap Sainz
Red Bull went after Lando pretty heavily so what you just said doesn’t really make sense lmao
@@hattorihonzo8340 because even lando himself doesn't believe he can beat verstappen. why would red bull see lando as a #1 driver when lando himself lacks the mentality or even the belief that he can be a #1?
@@hattorihonzo8340 They attempted to sign him in 2018 when Lando was still a teenager., really hard to say they would’ve considered him a challenge to Max at that point. Other than that there was no other serious time they considered Lando, so what are you an about?
This takes me right back to 2020 when perez won in sakhir and everyone thought how can that guy not have a seat next year!? and now he might be replacing him... ironic
“There’s no doubt Sainz would be an upgrade on Perez”…. Ouch!
Sainz should be a number one.
You mean join Mercedes?
Carlo in a red bull seat will be total chaos. Max and carlo fighting will be HORRIBLE for redbull. Imo, Ferrari Should just keep him
Great for F1 though.
@@jondonnelly4831 totally true lol 💀
@@jondonnelly4831 but hey, I don't think that combo would last long
So true, but I like fireworks!@@recordedanemone6399
The problem with these drivers is that they all are very competitive. They are there to win and not play second fiddle. Carlos isn't happy playing number two to Charles and he won't be any happier playing number two to Max.
Oh man, Carlos Sr and Jos together again 🌶🌶🌶🌶
Whoever ends up in RedBull 2nd seat has to accept the fact that he's there to only support Max and be his number 2 and that he can never challenge Max for win, would Sainz settle for that - i don't think so.
ok Hamiltoncultist just keep telling yourself that.
@@erikvermolen8371 they're so easy to spot, aren't they?
@@erikvermolen8371He's not wrong.
I'm 100% sure any driver needs to earn the right to be '1st driver' including Max. Yes, he may have some credits build up but if the other side of the garage is just better the team will move the chips to the other side of the table without even blinking. And yes, that won't go without some drama but also that is normal in a competitive environment.
@@quigglyz lol, there's a brown spot on your nose buddy ... if you catch my drift :)
If Leclerc would have lead Australia he would driven straight into the wall anyways
Thats how he won in 2022 right?
Lets not forget what happened to sainz in Australia 22 as well 🤣🤣 this comment is so hypocritical 💀
@@Awesomegamer-bg6ofSainz is not a team player,,is a good pilot ,,, 4:56 Leclerc it’s more than a pilot ,it’s a true team player,,
VERS - Has brake issues and DNFs
THE RACE - Unlucky
PER - 3 place grid penalty because RB didn't notify him of HUL
PER - Has good pace and passes ALO (who got a cheap pit stop to stay ahead) only to pick up debris and have said pace ruined
THE RACE - PER is washed
Unpopular opinion: Sainz wins have never been achieved due to pure driving and he's currently over rated due to those wins. Lemme elaborate; at Silverstone 2022, Max got damage and wasn't able to fight for the win. Charles got fucked by the strategy and also wasn't able to truly fight due to his tires. Checo came p2 but he also endured damaged during the race and even dropped to the back of the grid at one point. Singapore 2023: Max and Checo were unable to even get to Q3 due to the terrible balance of the car, making it the second time where Sainz gets a win and Max can't compete. Furthermore, Charles was told very early on to hold positions and create a gap to Carlos, essentially keeping Carlos safe. Australia 2024: Max retires, making it the third of Carlos wins where Max can't compete. Again, Charles is asked to hold position and not attack Carlos. Checo get penalized and also get's a bit of damage so he also can't compete.
So what am I really saying? Is Carlos a bad driver? NO. I'm just saying his wins are far less impressive if you consider that 1) The biggest challenger (Max) is out of the race 2. Charles either is not allowed to attack or can't due to tire strategy and 3. The second Redbull (Checo) is also hampered due to balance or damage. If he can challenge Max on track and win, I'll get on the hypetrain.
Throughout his career with other teams he was almost always in the top ten and many times he was “best of the rest” after the big names in ‘19 ‘20 etc.
I think he’s the prefect candidate for red bull with how he knows the rb life he knows max and gets on with him and he has proven that 2 number 1 drivers can work well together without causing issues like he did with lando should Perez go sainz has to be the only man considered
Who could have guessed that the second fastest car on the grid would win if Max had a DNF?
Sainz did not end Max's domination, a broken rear brake did ... stick to the facts!.
Still, he is better than Le Clerc
He is!
Sainz is going to Redbull? I think Horner doesn't have much of a say in this. He might be sacked. Unless Marko & Jos agree, Sainz can't join RBR again.
But it MIGHT be a good strategy to get Sainz in as a deterrent against Max leaving. If Max knows RBR has a driver that can win in his car, he will think long and hard before choosing to leave.
Carlos also has the best hair pre or post helmet wearing.
If you cut out the technical DNF races from their Torro Rosso season, Sainz outperformed Ver in pretty much every measure, including points. That alone will mean Sainz will never get an RBR seat. We can't risk the illusion being shattered.
Max best 2 results that year cope harder back to being half a min behind next race
@KPr0c I love how you've edited that comment and it still makes absolutely no sense. Can you try again but this time in English please?
@@ronanmcw exactly
That's incorrect.
If you only take the races where both Max and Carlos finished, it would be 26 vs 15 points in Verstappen's favor.
Also, Verstappen scored 2x 4th places that year, whilst Carlos never managed higher than 7th once. Most of the times Carlos DNF'd, Verstappen was in front of him. (5 out of 7) That season, Max was 514 laps ahead of Carlos, whilst Carlos was 371 laps ahead of Max.
Lastly, Verstappen was a 17 year old with only 1 season of F3 experience, whilst Carlos was a 20 year old with 5 years of single seater experience. If anything, Carlos should've dominated Verstappen, but everybody saw very clearly who the better driver was.
Sainz didn't outperform Verstappen in pretty much every measure, only in Quali did Sainz have the upperhand (10-9)
Hit the thumbs up if you prefer Carlos to LH
Sainz hasn’t faired well against Max. His recent win was more about no Max than anything else. I’d be happy to see him at Red Bull but I’m not sure he wants to be a second driver, which he will be if he goes to Red Bull.
01:53 Outside means: Sainz started in 2015 with Verstappen at Toro Rosso.
I was just thinking the same thing yesterday. This makes a lot of sense to me.
I love how red bull not winning is made out like the team has failed this week lol
If Max does not leave RB then Sainz shouldn't sign with RBR, he will forever be #2 on the team, Aston seems to be the logical choice.
As an Aston fan, this would actually excite me
It’s a little weird you would describe sainz as the driver that ended verstappens early season dominance…but not mention how Verstappen’s rear brake was the actual boss that ended his dominance…Sainz simply capitalized on the opportunity, which is still commendable, and hilarious given he’s the one Ferrari is kicking to the curb.
Sainz was one of the most underrated drivers before Singapore 2023. I'm glad now everyone knows how good he really is, but I doubt he would go to Redbull he wouldn't take team orders like Perez
I can tell you from experience that having appendicitis that you’d put off as food poisoning for a few days is no holiday. I went through that at 21 years old and I certainly couldn’t have driven an F1 car a fortnight later - I could barely get in my own Honda Civic at that time!
Tsunoda will never go to Red Bull alongside Max. He seems like a good guy and definitely has potential, but his temper and lack of discipline would be terrible as a clear number 2 driver. To me, Sainz seems like the best option for Red Bull by far. I just don’t know if it would be the best choice for Sainz. We’ve already seen how difficult it is to drive alongside Max in a car that is so suited to Max’ driving style. I feel like he might underperform in the car, throwing a major shadow on his career and future opportunities. I hope he finds a team that suits him and can offer him a race winning car.
No way Max would be able to put up with his antics, you’re right. He’s got attitude problems and is inconsistent, he’s a midfield driver atm
The race running ads mid content? Nope. Not having it.
Still blows my mind that some of the bigger issues in the paddock are not because of drivers....but because of their families. Sainz has pace but no one has the pace of Max. Until he decides when he wants to retire everyone is just fighting for 2nd.....unless RB gets the setup wrong or a mech failure.
This is random, but can we also talk about how mega the racing suit striping and Ferrari car design looks this year? Classic and classy
Ever since I learned he was losing his seat at Ferrari, I’ve been salivating at the idea of Sainz coming to Red Bull. It makes too much sense.
F1 needs it to happen, I think. Maybe not quite Senna/Prost, but maybe Hakkinen/Coulthard?
always enjoy the content, however i have a? "the race" has privilage to be in drivers press conference and yet they always ask repetitive ?s or jst ask smethn thats already been asked and mainly rumour stuff unrelated to track or driver performance, why is that, most jounalists seem to just ask follow ups from a previous ? i thot they go with a set of prepared ?s and if one of them is asked by sme1 else then ask something different. can anyone help me understand
Would be the wrong move for Sainz due to his car preference. He likes abit of an understeery car where as Max loves a very very pointy car. Redbull engineers already explained why Max's preference helps the team create a fast car because oversteer is faster than understeer if you can adapt to it like Max.
To me Sainz is very much like Alonso, fast, smart and calculated, a little bit of a villain vibe but that’s exactly what I love about him, and the fact that he’s been able to fought his way out and upward and potentially landing a seat at Red Bull again have been “dumped” by them at Toro Rosso is nothing short of a fascinating story to tell
Which appendage are you claiming they removed exactly?
If the cars and drivers were better, they'd do better.
Insightful stuff, guys.
been a huge fan of Carlos since Renault, and him going to Red Bull would be tough. He'd essentially be signing-up to be a #2 driver again
i'm curious if he'd be too much of a threat to the Max brand that Red Bull has cultivated over the last few years. It would suck to see him held back by RB just so he doesn't upset "the brand"
6:50 Leclerc admitted a bit of a Skill Issue in Melbourne 😂
0:20 That’s Smart, less weight think Smarter not Harder
RB would be insane not to consider El Cartero (because he always delivers)
He didn’t end Verstappen’s domination, Verstappen’s brake caliper ended Verstappen’s domination…
I am big on Saint being underrated since forever. He is a strong and reliable driver capable of winning a championship just the same way we see Lando or George in that position. He makes little mistakes and has never really disappointed since his time at McLaren. I am totally feeling Sainz is the dark horse F1 hasn’t embraced just yet… but wait my friends!
The toxic atmosphere probably didn’t come from their entourage. If Helmut said that it was probably him that was causing the issues based on just what that guy gets quoted saying.
Get back to full health and winning more races. You did it in style in Australia. Best of luck for the rest of the season.
Driver contact expiration dates: Stroll (Rolling)
So never😂😂😂
Perez to Mercedez and Sainz to Red Bull would be epic
Remember that Helmut Marko and Red Bull has purposedly put him in a glass ceiling with STR as only benchmark driver for Red Bull. He never considered to be promoted to Red Bull despite his form in STR. Only by finally leaving STR he can finally shows what he can do with better car.
I would love for Sainz to win the championship this year., it would be so funny.
Also, this channel jumps to such strong conclusions after each race, the guys behind it must be very knowledgeable.
tbh its still early days to say if Sainz Jr is ever gonna get that Red Bull seat. He won a race last year but still finished behind both Hamilton and Leclerc in the championship at the end. Even if he joins Red Bull he will only be the second driver, while if he gambled and join "Audi", Aston Martin or even Mercedes he could be given a lead role or even equal treatment in the team. He still have a strong impression on the driver market and would definitely be driving next year for sure. Just can't day the same for poor Danny though, he doesn't seem to prove he's even worthy of that RB seat... 😢
Any Front runner team would have written off Yuki after he nearly drove into Ricardo at Bahrain. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Honda becomes an engine supplier for Aston
I'd genuinely like Yuki to race for RB... he's been so underestimated. Idk how he'll do compared to Max or Sainz though